“It’s a Club… And You’re Not In It” | Clayton Lisy | DSH #1894

Summary

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Digital Social Hour: “It’s a Club… And You’re Not In It”

Guest: Clayton Lisy
Host: Sean Kelly
Episode: DSH #1894
Date: March 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this candid and freewheeling episode, recurring guest and viral sensation Clayton Lisy returns for his third appearance. Host Sean Kelly and Clayton dive into conspiracy theories, the Epstein files, hidden agendas in entertainment, authenticity in the music industry, celebrity culture, personal philosophies, and societal programming. The conversation is unfiltered, irreverent, sometimes controversial, and consistently thought-provoking as both speakers dissect the unseen mechanisms behind power structures, cultural influences, and internet virality.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Moments

1. Opening & Viral Hat

• [00:24 – 01:13]
  • Clayton returns for a rare third appearance, known for his distinctive hats.
    • “I had to find a more ridiculous hat. It was really heavy, and it’s painful.” — Clayton [00:39]
    • “Out of my 2,000 guests, you always wear the best shit.” — Sean [00:49]

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2. Epstein Files, Ruling Class & Societal Cynicism

• [01:12 – 03:39]
  • Reaction to recent Epstein revelations:
    • “It’s a club and you’re not in it. And that’s cool. None of us are really in that club.” — Clayton [02:26]
    • “Who’s going to get convicted?... All we can do is watch and just be like, well, this sucks. We don’t really have power over these people, unfortunately.” — Clayton [02:52]
  • Longstanding presence of power abuse, nothing new historically.
    • “Absolute power corrupts absolutely. So we’re just witnessing it.” — Clayton [03:30]

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3. Conspiracies, Mental Health, & Government Infiltration

• [05:07 – 08:00]
  • Discussing conspiracy narratives evolving into reality and the role comfort plays in people’s beliefs.
    • “People want to feel comfortable in their guy and everybody offers a different level of comfort... I’ve never really gone to bat for anybody ever, politically.” — Clayton [05:23]
  • Insider perspective from connections in politics:
    • “It’s just a game. Don’t waste your time voting or getting caught up in this stuff.” — Clayton [05:45]
  • Theorizing about government agencies and cultural conditioning in music and media.
    • “There’s a really poor mental health in the music industry... But I’m sure there’s some infiltration.” — Clayton [07:48]

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4. Music Industry Manipulation & Conditioning

• [08:00 – 10:28]
  • Separation of creative artistry and business in music.
  • Influence of conglomerates, private firms, and the difficulty of tracing their power, both in political and entertainment spheres.
    • “There’s a couple of companies that own everything... and they invest in record labels as well.” — Clayton [09:33]
  • Impact of cultural conditioning from birth—especially in the US.
    • “You’re conditioned from birth... it makes it really hard to hear a different opinion.” — Clayton [09:34]

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5. Frequency, Healing, and Sound Bath Skepticism

• [10:28 – 12:16]
  • Debate over musical frequencies influencing behavior, meditative sound baths, and spiritual advancement.
    • “If frequency is healing, then why are a bunch of these self-absorbed going to some tent... It doesn’t really... advance people spiritually.” — Clayton [11:12]
  • Critique of wellness trends as profit-driven fads.

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6. The Manufactured Myth of Punk

• [12:24 – 16:44]
  • Punk’s origins as a cultural movement to “punch upward at a ruling class,” then co-opted for fashion sales.
    • “It was performance art, but in a way to sell high fashion clothing.” — Clayton [13:44]
  • The story of Sex Pistols, Malcolm McLaren, and Vivienne Westwood manipulating the scene.
    • “They just saw them as a commodity.” — Clayton [16:21]
  • Modern commercialization of rebellion (MGK as an example of corporate “punk”).
    • “Total corporate... guy. If you want to talk about somebody owned by corporations...” — Clayton [18:28]

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7. Celebrity Gossip, Virality & Industry Relationships

• [18:25 – 20:55]
  • Discussion veers into MGK and Megan Fox’s “blood sacrifice,” the business of writing for pop stars, and the transactional nature of success.
    • “If you see me write a song for him, pay me enough, he’s not weird.” — Clayton [20:02]
    • “You know, you got a lot of overhead with a certain lifestyle.” — Clayton [20:33]

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8. Security, Hollywood, & Media Persona

• [21:00 – 23:03]
  • Andrew Tate’s $750k/month overhead and rapper security lifestyle.
  • Street smarts, LA “hood levels,” clothing and gang colors, authenticity vs. “hood vlogging.”
    • “I regret going on that platform. He’s as stupid as he looks.” — Clayton [23:55] (on Adam 22/No Jumper)

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9. Drama with Media Figures

• [23:55 – 28:55]
  • Clayton’s blunt criticism of Adam22, No Jumper, and industry exploitation.
    • “He won’t even see this... he’s broke, he’s stupid, he’s poor.” — Clayton [24:02]
    • “All of his interviews are bad... he’s gotten really lucky [finding talent].” — Clayton [26:14]
  • Discussion of YouTube drama stunts and fake fights.

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10. Viral Streamers, Looksmaxing & Masculinity Debates

• [29:27 – 32:12]
  • Break down of streamer “Clavicular,” “looksmaxing,” and obsession with appearance vs. confidence.
    • “I think confidence is the most attractive thing to women.” — Clayton [30:51]
    • “Ashwagandha will get your dick harder than anything... No side effects.” — Clayton [32:14]

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11. Social Media Feeds, Red Pill, and Internet Cultures

• [32:44 – 34:59]
  • Clayton admits being out of touch with viral figures (Clavicular, Nick Fuentes, Red Pill podcasts).
  • Genuine curiosity about new online phenomena.

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12. Cultural Appropriation & Ethnic Food Realness

• [35:10 – 38:40]
  • Banter over authenticity in food—refusing to eat sushi unless made by Japanese chefs (Mexicans excepted).
    • “If you see Mexicans in the kitchen, they are the best chefs on the planet.” — Clayton [38:23]

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13. Aliens, Schizophrenia, and Viral UAP Sightings

• [38:40 – 44:14]
  • Obama’s “aliens are real” podcast clip.
  • Clayton’s “alien sighting” in Santa Monica, skepticism, and cannabis-induced weirdness.
    • “We enhanced this video so many times...there’s nothing in the video, bro.” — Clayton [40:25]
  • Hilarious story about the “we are here” lady channeling aliens, studio equipment malfunctioning, and awkward acceptance.
    • “I take everything I said back... Oh, you had to replace the wires? I take everything back.” — Clayton [43:02]

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14. On the Nature of Reality & Living in the Moment

• [44:19 – 44:41]
  • After spiritual experiments failed to deliver, Clayton focuses on present experience.
    • “All we have is this moment, so we got to make the best of it. The more I do a deeper dive, the less I feel like I know.” — Clayton [44:23]

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15. Distrust in Politics & Systemic Pessimism

• [44:41 – 46:26]
  • Trump, declassifying UFOs as distraction, economic critique, and the futility of voting.
    • “I don’t vote, but I’m always Team America... I’m always going to poll for whoever is President. I’ve never voted before.” — Clayton [45:24]
  • Preselection of presidents and rigged systems.
    • “I’m told a lot of that is just even fixed anyways... whoever they really want is picked ahead of time.” — Clayton [46:21]

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16. Media Programming, Netflix, & Child Stars

• [47:13 – 49:37]
  • Television/Netflix as modern “programming.”
  • Stranger Things critique, child actors turned musicians, and drawing the line between authentic and manufactured culture.

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17. Over-Sexualization & Children’s Entertainment

• [49:42 – 54:47]
  • Disney’s DEI initiatives, LGBTQ+ characters in kids’ movies, and the line between representation and agenda.
  • Parental control in the digital age.
    • “I think it’s not really a particularly a gay problem, it’s an over sexualization of children in general.” — Clayton [54:47]
    • “I love minorities... but I don’t really have a right to tell a company what they’re going to do.” — Clayton [54:16]

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18. History, Gender, & Sexuality: Spartans, Masculinity, and Myths

• [55:22 – 57:17]
  • Humorous historical anecdotes about Spartans, same-sex relationships, and ancient customs.
    • “They used to suck on each other’s balls before battle...I don’t know who started that. Somebody told a lie, and then they just carried that shit.” — Clayton [55:46]

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19. Final Reflections & Signature Antics

• [57:20 – 59:09]
  • Reaffirming support for rights of marginalized groups.
  • Commentary on heavy hats, musician lifestyle, and the infamous “biggest neck on the planet” (Benzino).
    • “I should have an award. I have to think and answer questions while this is on your head.” — Clayton [57:57]

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Notable Quotes

• “It’s a club and you’re not in it. None of us are really in that club.” — Clayton [02:26]
• “People want to feel comfortable...so that’s what it is. I’ve never really gone to bat for anybody ever, politically.” — Clayton [05:23]
• “There’s a couple of companies that own everything...and they invest in record labels as well.” — Clayton [09:33]
• “If frequency is healing, then why are a bunch of these self-absorbed...in a tent... Doesn’t really advance people spiritually.” — Clayton [11:12]
• “If you see Mexicans in the kitchen, they are the best chefs on the planet.” — Clayton [38:23]
• “All we have is this moment...the more I do a deeper dive, the less I feel like I know.” — Clayton [44:23]
• “I don’t really have a right to tell a company what they’re going to do.” — Clayton [54:16]
• “The most attractive thing to women is confidence.” — Clayton [30:51]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Viral Hats & Episode Start: [00:24 – 01:13]
• Epstein Files & Power Structures: [01:12 – 03:39]
• Political & Music Industry Cynicism: [05:07 – 09:33]
• Sound Baths, Frequencies, and Spirituality: [10:28 – 12:16]
• Punk, Fashion, and Commercial Rebellion: [12:24 – 16:44]
• MGK, Celebrity Gossip, Writing for Stars: [18:25 – 20:55]
• Media Drama & “Hood Profiting”: [23:55 – 28:55]
• Looksmaxing & Masculinity: [29:27 – 32:12]
• Red Pill, Nick Fuentes, Culture: [33:45 – 34:59]
• Food Authenticity: [35:10 – 38:40]
• Aliens, UFOs, & Skepticism: [38:40 – 44:14]
• Living in the Moment: [44:19 – 44:41]
• Political Distrust & Rigged Systems: [44:41 – 46:26]
• Stranger Things, Netflix & Programming: [47:13 – 49:37]
• Disney, DEI, Over-Sexualization: [49:42 – 54:47]
• Spartans & Sexuality Myths: [55:22 – 57:17]
• Wrap Up, Hat Reflections, Benzino: [57:20 – 59:09]

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Tone and Language

The episode is raw, direct, and laden with dark humor. Clayton brings a blend of insight and irreverence, challenging sacred cows while delivering sharp cultural commentary. The tone alternates between cynicism, satire, earnest reflection, and open curiosity. Both host and guest create an atmosphere where taboos are tackled head-on, with a consistent undercurrent of “question everything.”

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Transcript

[Clayton]

I had a video of me at Santa Monica where I was convinced. I see the aliens, right? We try to enhance this shit so many times, bro. I gotta go get tested for schizophrenia or something. I swear to God, I've gone to, like, haunted places. I've done, like, seances. I've done, like, occult stuff. I've tried to do, like, Hemi, sync all this shit, and, like, nothing really has ever happened.

[Host]

All right, guys, third time's the charm. I. Not a lot of guests come on the show three times, but this guy just keeps going viral. We got Clayton back on the show this time. He's. Look what he's wearing. Look at this hat.

[Guest]

Yeah, it's the revenge of the hat. Because the last hat.

[Clayton]

I wore that hat in my private

[Guest]

life a lot of times, so I had to find a more ridiculous hat. I went to several stores to find this. It was really heavy, and it's painful.

[Host]

Yeah, looks like it, man.

[Clayton]

It really is.

[Host]

I will say, out of my 2,000 guests, you always wear the best shit.

[Clayton]

So, yeah, I guess it's subjective, but,

[Guest]

you know,

[Clayton]

like, I said, it.

[Guest]

It.

[Clayton]

This. This is. I'm somewhat regretting it when I feel the weight of it, because it's. It's heavy.

[Guest]

I don't even know who made it, but, I mean, whoever made this hat, I don't think they made two of them.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah, it definitely is.

[Host]

Well, let's dive straight into it. So the files are hot right now. Anything surprise you from the Epstein files so far?

[Guest]

No.

[Clayton]

No. I've been saying this. I mean, I've been saying it since the beginning. Like. I mean, like,

[Guest]

pedophilia is. I can say that on camera, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Guest]

I feel like if you think about that, that's like a disease, right? So the chances are that so many people had. That was so slim.

[Clayton]

So I said, oh, they have to

[Guest]

be doing it for some kind of youth thing. Look at all the people who are in the files, and look how badly they aged afterwards. So to me, I said, oh, they have to be doing it to some way, you know, Like, I've gotten stem cell treatments and stuff. They come from the umbilical cord of, you know, a baby. So it does.

[Host]

There's.

[Guest]

There's not really any kind of moral kind of thing involved with that. But other than, you know, I guess if somebody wanted the umbilical cord for themselves or something, I don't really know how that process works, but I just.

[Clayton]

It just made sense to me.

[Guest]

I was like.

[Clayton]

When it all was kind of coming Out.

[Guest]

I'm like, you.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Guest]

And I told all of y', all, I don't vote. I say this. I'm not political. And look how red I look now.

[Clayton]

You know what I mean? So that's the only. That's the only thing that was funny to me. I was like, I told y' all not to be. Care to care about this?

[Guest]

Like, all these people are friends. It's a club and you're not in it. And that's cool. Like. Like, I'm.

[Clayton]

None of us are really in that club.

[Guest]

So it's like, when I thought about it, I was like, I'm not.

[Clayton]

I'm not really surprised.

[Guest]

You know, I kind of already knew this was happening. I knew that when all this stuff came out, it was just one of those things. You're just like, yeah.

[Clayton]

I mean, but at the same time, let's be real.

[Guest]

Who's going to get convicted? Who's going to go to jail over it? Who's going to be brought in? Nobody. So all we can do is watch and just kind of just be like, well, this sucks. But we don't really have power over these people, unfortunately. It just is what it is. Unless when they. If they do like a whole, like, Nuremberg thing and bring in all these people and put them on trial, okay, cool. But they're not going to. Let's be real. They're just not going to. So just. It is what it is. It's just one of those things. You just kind of have to sit back and watch and be like, well, that's fucked. Now I know that there is really a ruling class and they do fucked up shit.

[Clayton]

Surprise, surprise.

[Guest]

People have been doing it since the beginning of the of time. You know, people. You know, they say absolute power corrupts absolutely. So we're just witnessing it.

[Host]

Yeah. It's been around for a while, right? It's not. Oh, it's not a new thing by any means.

[Guest]

Sacrifice, shillings, whatever. You know, every culture has their different version of it. So to me, it's like, it's just an obvious thing. I don't ever look at it like. Like, what can I do to stop it?

[Clayton]

Really?

[Guest]

Zero. As a one person, nothing. But as a group of people, I guess what we can do is just be knowledgeable of it. Like, knowledge is power when it comes to that. Other than that, I'm not surprised by it.

[Clayton]

Am I happy with seeing this stuff?

[Guest]

No. But whenever new information comes out, I'm never like, oh, this is. This is something that, oh, I'm surprised about. I'M like, no, I knew this was happening. I've been saying this for years. Everybody said, oh, you're crazy. And I'm like, okay, cool, fine, I'm crazy.

[Clayton]

Just wait. I think what's done in the dark

[Guest]

comes to the light always. So it's like in, you know, that's the way I view it. And I'm, I'm cool with it.

[Host]

I mean, yeah, being called crazy to me is a compliment these days, I think.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I think it just means a

[Guest]

lot of the time you're, you're ahead of your time. But there are, I mean, I mean,

[Clayton]

you might, you know, you might call somebody crazy and that person, you know,

[Guest]

could be, you know, wandering down the street and like, kind of like almost, you know, scantily clad in like a loincloth, swinging at, you know, four lane traffic. So sometimes there is crazy and then there is some people that are generally, you know, got issues.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, there's different types for sure. But yeah, I've been talking about this since high school. Like I remember adrenochrome was a conspiracy. Pizza gate, child sacrifices, all this stuff was a conspiracy when we were growing up.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I mean, it's just people want to feel comfortable.

[Guest]

Whether that's, you know, left or right or whatever, they want to feel comfortable in their guy and everybody offers a different level of comfort, you know, so that's what it is. It's just, you know, people want to feel comfortable. I, I, this is why I've never really gone to bat for anybody ever, you know, politically, because it's just,

[Host]

I've

[Guest]

already known about this stuff. Like I know people at the Pentagon. I know people worked Secret Service. I know people who've worked all these type of jobs. And it's like they tell me like, I know people that ran mayoral campaigns. I've, I've helped with the mayoral campaign to help run it. I've known and they all, one advice they always give me is, hey, it's just a game. Don't waste your time voting or getting caught up in this stuff. It's a game. Yeah. It's not real. It's, it's just a game.

[Host]

It's an illusion. Have any of these agencies, these government agencies infiltrated the, the music scene? Your opinion?

[Guest]

Infiltrated in what way?

[Host]

Like telling certain artists certain messages to say, certain lyrics, influencing who their managers are. Stuff like that.

[Guest]

Infiltrated the music industry?

[Host]

Yes.

[Clayton]

Like entertainment, hip hop industry.

[Host]

Because there's theories of this.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I mean, to an extent.

[Guest]

Yeah, I would say to an extent. To an extent, for sure. I mean, I'm sure there's stuff that information that I have that people would find surprising, but then at the same time, it's like, what's done in the dark will come to light. So I'm not really, you know, I'm not tmz. I'm not like a breaking news thing,

[Clayton]

you know, for example.

[Guest]

But I mean, yeah, I'm sure there's stuff like. Yeah, it's.

[Clayton]

There's a lot. I mean, it's easy to tell, like,

[Guest]

if you can see from the outside something weird going on. It's easy to tell, like, it's not like we can kind of just even go off of a vibe and be like, oh, there's something up with that person. Like, you know, if they're different from how they started off, you know, Mental

[Clayton]

health, I think, is a factor.

[Guest]

So sometimes some people can see mental health and then think like, oh, that person's lost it, and in reality, they're just having a mental health break. But, you know, it's like.

[Clayton]

So I think it's a mixture of that.

[Guest]

You know, there. There's a really poor mental health in the music industry. Just being creative people. Kind of always kind of having your head in the clouds and stuff. But I'm sure there's some infiltration. I want to know specifically about it, though.

[Host]

It's a stressful lifestyle, I'd imagine, because you're trying to be creative, but you also have to monetize it. Right. Doesn't really mix for them. For most people?

[Guest]

No, I don't think it mixes at all. I think. I mean, in times past, it's like, it's. It is hard, you know, and then there's a lot of, like, brand deals, sponsorship, all kinds of stuff. So I think it's really. It is really hard for people to kind of do both to stay the artist, but then also stay an entrepreneur, which don't really overlap a lot at all.

[Host]

There's been very few. I mean, Kanye has done it, Drake to an extent. Who else has done it? Not many, man. You know what I mean?

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Guest]

I mean, very few people, or just even, like, entrepreneurial with your music, you know, without having some kind of, you know, you. Because you say, like, infiltrated, and it's like, you know, there's a couple of companies that own everything, and that includes the record labels. You know, they invest in record labels as well. So it's not anything bad, but it's. It's common knowledge. You can look at who invests in what they do make it complicated and they will set up like little private investment firms for that thing. It's so hard. Like, my favorite thing is if you like even will ask, like you could try to do AI deep dive Google stuff to figure out like which candidates are funded by which billionaires. And they do it through all these little special things where they give money to the thing and then that gives money to the candidate. Yeah, I don't know the exact word, but you, you know what I was talking about.

[Clayton]

And I, I think that's the same

[Guest]

way with a lot of music stuff to where.

[Clayton]

So I don't know if it's directly

[Guest]

influencing, but I do think it's also a cultural thing. People do speak to the culture and you know, people are conditioned and they're conditioned from birth and it's really hard to break your conditioning. So a lot of it has to do with conditioning as well. So I think the fact that humans are so conditioned and we're so conditioned as a culture, especially in the United States of America, you know, from birth, that it makes it really hard to kind of hear a different opinion or something else. Go on and be like, oh, okay, like I hear this. But you know, the people just, if you listen to the music that people listen to, like, it's crazy sometimes, like the messages or words that people are saying, you're like, this is not even something I'd ever really support in my daily life. Like, like, why would I want to hear this to like a catchy melody or anything, you know?

[Host]

Well, even the melodies, you know, there's certain frequencies they're putting in those.

[Clayton]

I, I guess, I mean, I'm always curious about that, but I have no idea.

[Guest]

You know, I haven't really done a lot of deep dive into that. Somebody bowling or something. I invite, I don't know, I'm bowling.

[Clayton]

All the above.

[Guest]

I haven't done a deep dive into that.

[Clayton]

I've heard a lot of stuff about it.

[Guest]

You know, I play a lot of instruments, so frequencies are, is interesting to me where I think like, but I haven't really done a deep dive into it. I've heard about it and I'm not sure, you know, like people will do like.

[Clayton]

But at the same time I know

[Guest]

some of the most like vapid self absorbed people who will do like sound baths and sound bowls and stuff. So it's like, if frequency is healing, then why are a bunch of these like, you know, self absorbed going to some tent and just.

[Clayton]

It's like, all right, well if it Is healing. What the.

[Guest]

Is it healing on them?

[Clayton]

Maybe them physically, I guess maybe it's physically healing. I don't know.

[Guest]

But doesn't seem to really, like, advance people spiritually. I think, like, doesn't make people want to do more charity. Doesn't make people want to care for others more. Doesn't make people stop and have a better relationship with their family and say, you know, I'm going to choose a path to forgiveness, especially with those next of kin to me. Know, everybody's got some kind of grudge these days against a father, a mother, grandmother, everything, you know? Yeah, it's like kind of. I don't know.

[Host]

Yeah, I guess it could. It goes both ways. It gets crazy with. Yeah, I know people that do the sound baths, and they. They do it for hours, dude. That's the crazy part to me. Hey, you know, lie down for hours.

[Guest]

If somebody's gonna sell it, they gonna. Somebody's gonna buy it.

[Clayton]

You know what I mean? Like, I. I think, you know, my question is of the person running the sound bath.

[Guest]

No.

[Clayton]

Or believe in that.

[Guest]

I don't know.

[Clayton]

Who knows?

[Guest]

All they know is they keep getting customers.

[Clayton]

Right. I mean, that's like, you know, can you blame them? You know what I mean?

[Guest]

Like, you set up a couple tents, you know, you're good. Yeah.

[Host]

What about punk music? Do you think a lot of that's manufactured?

[Guest]

Well, it's been proven to be manufactured. I love that kind of stuff. And I almost kind of was like, oh, let me wear this to almost make fun of it, in a way. But I think it is proven to be manufactured. That's one of my favorite things to talk about, because, I mean, it's already been proven that that was manufactured. Like, not music, per se, not from a musical perspective, but from what people think is punk. So, like, people would see, like, this jacket or, like, wearing gloves like this and be like, oh, that's punk.

[Clayton]

Right?

[Guest]

And they would think, like, that's, like, the idea of it, that it's more of an image than a message. So punk, the original plan from the musicians behind it, were to punch upward at a ruling class into break society now, their management and the people behind it. You know, specifically, let's just take Sex Pistols, because I think that's like. People sometimes use them as, like, the origin of punk. Even though there were bands around before. There was Iggy Pop, the Stooges, there was Ramones around before that. But if you take them, I mean, Malcolm McLaren released a movie called the Great Rock and Roll Swindle. And it's in the movie. He's like, literally like, yeah, I just made this band and found these guys and put them together as a way to sell, you know, more clothes from my, Me and my wife's store. His wife at the time was Vivian Westwood. You know, and, and this is.

[Clayton]

We use this to sell this to,

[Guest]

you know, the rich elite and to get them kind of a bunch of rich kids. So they used a bunch of working class people who were talented musicians. Some of them who are still around today are towns and musicians and used them to kind of forward this style. And it was more about like selling T shirts and clothing than it was about actually having some kind of movement. So it was like performance art, but in a way to sell high fashion clothing. So I think a lot of that is manufactured. I mean, that's why you'll never see me wear any like Vivian Westwood or any of that stuff. You see a lot of the LA kids, they love that.

[Host]

Yep.

[Clayton]

And.

[Guest]

Or like a lot of this stuff where, like, you know, people have this kind of direct idea of like what it is punk music or this, like.

[Clayton]

And it carried over.

[Guest]

I don't know if, you know, like the people say, oh, this place has a good punk scene, this has a good punk scene. And it's like. But they don't really understand the real message behind it was to punch upward at what is a ruling class. It had nothing to do with how you dressed or all that stuff. Like people think just putting on a leather jacket, boom, now I'm punk or whatever. Or, oh, I got a clothes pin, earring, so I'm punk like, versus, like it was always about taking down the system, which is like, if you think about something right now, with all the crazy stuff that's going on, what a great message, you know.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Because it's for workingclass people, you know, and workingclass people is what makes the world go round when we really think about it, you know.

[Clayton]

And it was not meant to be

[Guest]

something that, like, even the violent aspect of it was never meant to be there. Like, like people started incorporating the violence into it and it's not supposed to be a part of it at all, so. And you know, it just kind of got out of turn and you know, like I said, Malcolm McLaren and you can look him up. Really terrible, terrible person. And it just. He's a terrible guy. I think if he's still alive. Vivian Westwood, I believe is dead. But they say, don't speak ill of the dead. But I mean, I'm going to. And you know, she just, like I said, you know, she just used her husband's. I think they were married at the time. They might have been just dating. The position to.

[Clayton]

They had a store called Sex.

[Guest]

That was the name of their store, so the Sex Pistols. And they were seen as provocateurs, you know, weapons to sell clothing, to just push their kind of agenda of, okay, we have. We. We want to move this clothing.

[Clayton]

Which I think there's nothing wrong with

[Guest]

buying high end clothing and stuff, but using a message to brainwash a whole generation and generations to come to kind

[Clayton]

of sell this clothing and to push this stuff forward.

[Guest]

I mean, that's crazy. But I love a lot of punk music. I think it's great. I think, you know, you know, Johnny Rotten. I think it pronounced his name Lyndon or Leiden. I don't know exactly. Some of those British names are a little tricky. And it's like he had a, you know, they lost a court case battle with Malcolm McLaren and they lo. They lost it over control of Sex Pistols. So if they would have kept control over that, you know, they would have continued and probably progressed in a different way than they did, you know, But I mean, to the point where, you know, famously, them firing the old bases, hiring Sid Vicious, who couldn't even play bass, just for an image because he was the very image that they thought that was punk. And then also allowing him to overdose and not even giving him any kind of treatment he needed and allowing that to happen because they didn't really even care about the artists themselves. They just saw them as a commodity and they, I mean, so, you know, generally bad guy. I think he went on to do like EDM music and even had hits with that. So really strange guy. I mean, there's just like. Like, as you can see as total opportunist when it comes to another guy on the mic's like, I think shit's jangling. But what's it called? You know, he just Total opportunist guy. I mean, it's unfortunate, but it's just, you know, some people are really opportunistic when it comes to certain things and there's nothing we can do about it. You know, Like, I think it's interesting because you've seen it like carry over to today. I'm sure you've seen a lot of, like, modern acts kind of have this idea of what they think like punk music is, especially Los Angeles.

[Host]

I think of mgk.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Okay.

[Clayton]

Prime example.

[Guest]

Total corporate, like, guy. Yeah, like.

[Clayton]

Like, if you want to talk about

[Guest]

somebody Owned by corporations. Like, I can't confirm that, but it's, like, kind of obvious.

[Host]

I mean, when you're dating who he's dating, it wouldn't.

[Guest]

Who's he waiting?

[Host]

Wasn't he dating Megan Fox?

[Guest]

Oh, good for him.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Damn.

[Host]

Not anymore, but they did alone. You didn't see this. They did the blood sacrifice together. Wow, that was big news.

[Clayton]

What do you mean?

[Host]

Yeah, they did a little finger prick and sucked each other's blood. Something like that.

[Guest]

Damn.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah, that was all over the news, like, years ago.

[Clayton]

But, Oh, I must. I must be under a rock or under a hat.

[Host]

You didn't even know they dated.

[Clayton]

I didn't even know they dated, but now that I know that, I mean, damn. Because I was like, megan Fox, that's like a dream. But then now you're saying she's out here sucking blood and shit. I'm like, I don't think it's worth it. I'm like. I'm like. I was like, oh, so you're saying there's a chance she, you know, they broke up.

[Guest]

But then I'm like, I don't know.

[Host]

She's gotten older now, too.

[Clayton]

In my mind, she'll always be Transformers, Megan Fox. You know, in my mind, I just. I don't even want to see her. That's probably part of the reason. If I ever see news about Megan Fox, I'm just gonna scroll. Yeah. Because I just don't. I don't even want to see the update.

[Host]

Yeah, you don't want to taint your.

[Clayton]

I can't. I'll ruin. I'll ruin childhood memories. You know? It's like. It's like, find out Santa Claus ain't real.

[Guest]

You know what I mean?

[Clayton]

So it's just like.

[Guest]

It's just I. I just. I just. I couldn't do that to myself.

[Clayton]

But, no, I never saw that. He's weird, but if he buy a song, he not weird. So if you see me, like, write a song for him.

[Host]

Oh, you do writing, too?

[Clayton]

Yeah, I do. So it's like. It's like, oh, yeah. If you see. If I write a song for me, pay me enough. He's not weird.

[Host]

Okay.

[Guest]

Because then, like, I can buy more.

[Clayton]

Like, I.

[Host]

Like.

[Guest]

I'd, like, buy a lot of guitars and chests and, like, clothes.

[Host]

A lot of money on clothes and.

[Clayton]

Oh, guitars, clothes, whores.

[Guest]

You know, like, all.

[Clayton]

You know, all the.

[Guest]

All the best stuff and, you know,

[Clayton]

occasional other substances, whatever. You know, anything I could really, you

[Guest]

know, get my mitts on and it's like, it's unfortunate, but it's just like,

[Clayton]

you know, you know, you got a lot of overhead with a certain lifestyle, so it's like, it's great to, you

[Guest]

know, get money, especially from, you know,

[Clayton]

record labels when I don't have to

[Guest]

particularly work with them. So if they ever pay me to work with their artists, to play on something or give me money, yeah, I always take their money.

[Clayton]

I love them.

[Host]

I mean, I feel that. Man Tate. Andrew Tate just announced his overhead today.

[Clayton]

I've seen Andrew Tate online and I like the way. Not like, I don't really know what

[Guest]

he say, but I like his accent.

[Clayton]

I don't know if that like applies to anything, but I just, I just. It's kind of cool.

[Guest]

Like I wish I kind of had.

[Host]

Yeah, he's got a unique accent, but yeah, he spent 750k a month. He said mainly it's on security. I think 600k a month on security.

[Clayton]

Damn. Why does he need that much on security?

[Host]

I mean, he's probably one of the most.

[Clayton]

I can get him a discount.

[Guest]

Really?

[Clayton]

I got a security guard with me right now.

[Host]

Yeah, I'm gonna say you're rolling with security now. You're probably spending a lot.

[Clayton]

I hope not. I didn't see the exact bill, but damn, I hope we ain't. We ain't spending no 600k. I'll be, I'll be. Be in the red real quick, you know, I mean, I think it's just always helpful to have security because just,

[Guest]

it's like, honestly, just cuz I really like the guitar that I have with me. I just came from a band practice.

[Host]

We're also kind of in the hood right now, so.

[Clayton]

You kind of are, but not as

[Guest]

much as you'd think.

[Host]

Englewood.

[Clayton]

Yeah, but it's not like I looked

[Guest]

it on, on a map and I'm like, it's not.

[Clayton]

There's better places, but it's not that bad. It's like not the worst part of

[Guest]

Inglewood, if that makes any sense.

[Host]

So there's hood levels. So we're in like the.

[Clayton]

I don't know all the levels.

[Host]

But I asked.

[Clayton]

I don't know. I don't know. I'm not the person to ask.

[Host]

Trust me.

[Clayton]

I'm like the last person you want to ask.

[Host]

I'm so walk around right now and be fine out here.

[Clayton]

I can't walk around looking like this. I'll tell you. Maybe you could walk around looking like that. I mean, you did choose to wear all blue. I don't know if that was a great choice.

[Guest]

I don't know.

[Clayton]

In California, you're like, let me wear the blue, blue matching shoes with the blue matching hoodie in the middle of

[Host]

California, to be fair, but.

[Clayton]

Oh, yeah. Well, it's a lot of other brand colors out here, you know, like, some, some brand might have beat you to it.

[Host]

Yeah, you're right.

[Guest]

You know, some.

[Host]

I come to la, I probably should not wear blue.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I mean, maybe, like, throw another color in there. Maybe. Like, I think you could have got away with, like, maybe brown.

[Host]

What if I wore red pants to throw them off?

[Clayton]

I don't know. Those are like America colors. I think that's fine. I. I think I've heard that people, like, kind of understand the fashion now and, like, they kind of, like, they kind of know who's.

[Guest]

Who, they know who's banging or whatever.

[Clayton]

They know.

[Guest]

Like, it's kind of obvious, I think,

[Clayton]

like, you come with a certain energy

[Guest]

and it's kind of, like, obvious.

[Clayton]

That's what I've been told. But I don't know.

[Host]

Then again, I don't do any of that. Like, I don't check in anywhere. I don't text anyone. I'm coming.

[Clayton]

No, I don't think you need to. I mean, because it's not like you're trying to, like, profit off of, like, like, man, I hate to drag anybody, but, like, like, like, you know, I'm 22. Will, like, go to the hood and

[Guest]

try to profit off the hood.

[Host]

Right, Right.

[Guest]

Like, like, you know what I mean?

[Clayton]

Like, I mean, it's just, let's face it, like, you've seen his shit, right?

[Guest]

Like, he'll do a vlog and he'll,

[Clayton]

like, try to profit off. I mean, he's been profiting off the hood for all these years.

[Host]

Like, him, that's his audience. So it kind of makes sense.

[Clayton]

Like, so he'll go there and, like, you're not doing a vlog where you're trying to be like, hey, look at the hood, white kids. Like, like, let's give you a scope into this lifestyle, my majority white audience. And let's try to make black people look stupid. Like, like, oh, my God, like, no. Like, I mean, I regret going on that platform.

[Host]

Oh, you went on no drummer.

[Clayton]

Oh, I regret it every day, I think. Like, and the interview is so dumb. He's, he's, he's just, he's, he's honestly

[Guest]

as stupid as he looks.

[Clayton]

I'm sorry. Like, and he, I do. And the thing is, he's so stupid. He won't even see this. So it's like he. Like, you could literally. Like, I wouldn't even start beef with him because it's like, he's broke, he's stupid, he's poor.

[Host]

He might have money. Now that he's whoring out his wife,

[Clayton]

she might have money. You think she let him spend that? Come on now. Separate bank accounts. He's the one who's gonna have to profit off a divorce. So like, shit, he'll be the one in court trying to get money from her. She probably have money. I guarantee. Separate bank accounts. I mean, I just know he don't

[Guest]

got money like that.

[Clayton]

I mean, I hate to talk bad

[Guest]

about somebody, but, like, the truth is the truth. I don't really care. Like, at this point, like, you caught me on a day where it's like,

[Clayton]

I just don't care if that makes any sense. Like, which is probably good for an interview, but I just, like, you caught me on a day where I'm just like, I just don't care. Like, I don't really care anymore. Like, what is he going to say about me? To me, anything? Like, he's not even going to waste

[Guest]

his time on me. Like, he don't.

[Clayton]

It just. He's got bigger problems.

[Host]

I gotta watch that interview. So did it not go well or what?

[Clayton]

No, it didn't go bad. He's just so stupid. Like, it's like talking to, like, just. It's just like. It's like. And he's just like. It's just so stupid. Like, he's just a dumb person. Like, it's like. I don't know how else to say that other than, like, you know, with all due respect for him, it's just like, I have a bulldog. I just got him. He's a sweetheart. And I think Adam 22, in his heart is really is a sweetheart. Trust me. But he's just so fucking stupid. It's just like some people are just so dumb. I get bored during the interview and they're like, oh, you're quiet. You're not talking. You're da, da, da. It's like, bro, because I want to go home. Like, I'm like over here talking to the equivalent of like a fourth grade reading level. And I'm just like. I'm like, I may look crazy or I might have made some crazy decisions in life. And I get that. And, like, people can associate that with being stupid, but, like, read into, like, Bren Franklin and, like, a lot of the decisions he made in life and Stuff and people like that. Like, I'm clearly not stupid. Like, it takes having one conversation with me to be like, hey, this guy may be a little bit out there, but he's not stupid.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

So, I mean, it's just. It's not a bad interview. It's just like, I don't think any interviews are bad.

[Guest]

It's.

[Clayton]

I think all of his interviews are bad. How about that? I mean, the only time they've been good is when he's had, like, got. I mean, he is really good at finding people before they kind of blow up.

[Host]

I'll give him flowers on that.

[Clayton]

Yeah, Yeah. I think that's like, he's gotten really lucky with that. Other than that. And I mean, like, I knew him. I bought bicycles from him.

[Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Clayton]

And.

[Host]

Oh, so you knew him before no jumper?

[Clayton]

No, I knew him during. It was the no jumper, but it was like he just had a whole different attitude towards life. And now he's talking on there. The moment you see somebody and you know when they're really broke, you want to know the moment that they're really broke. Hey, let me do this on rain bet. When you see the rain bet in the middle of a post, oh, my God. You just gotta look at it and be like, damn, bro, you really fell. Like, at one point you were like, people would like, go to on that as something like. And then they're just doing like a bunch of antics like that just are like fake stuff. Like, it's like once they start doing fake, like on your. That's just like, totally fake, where I'm just like, come on, man.

[Host]

I don't like the fake fights.

[Clayton]

I don't like or just even, like, even. I don't even want to get into all the fake stuff. But go look at some of his recent posts and you'll be like, bro,

[Guest]

I get what you're saying.

[Clayton]

Like, there's nothing bad. Like I said, I hate to even call anybody. He won't even call back. That's the thing. That's the. That's the funny thing about it is you won't even see him say anything back because he just don't like. It's like whenever I've called anybody out, a lot of the time they won't say anything back. And I think that's, like, volumes because if somebody called me out and I know I was in the right, I would say something back. Yeah, I'm just going to. That's my natural human reaction. So it's not. And it's not like I'm calling him out. But if he perceives it that way or whatever, I don't know, he's stupid.

[Guest]

So he gonna perceive anything.

[Host]

Well, he's boxing now, so you might have to get in the ring with him.

[Clayton]

It wouldn't even. It's be stupid. It'd be stupid. It would be stupid. It's just like there's number one, I'm not boxing anybody because I'm not a boxer.

[Host]

What about for, for a bag?

[Clayton]

I mean, it depends how much money, I guess. I mean like. But I just, I just, I'm, I'm, I'm an entertainer, you know. I don't know if it's worth it to do that. I mean, it's like, I don't know if it's worth it to do it.

[Guest]

But I mean that, I mean if

[Clayton]

you told me like I had to fight somebody like that I would, like,

[Guest]

I don't even know if I'd really care to train. Like, I just like, yeah, I don't

[Host]

even think you do have to devote a lot of time.

[Clayton]

No, I mean, like, I don't even

[Guest]

think I'd have to train is what I'm saying.

[Host]

Oh, Adam.

[Clayton]

I don't think I'd have to train.

[Host]

He didn't look that good against Jason Love.

[Clayton]

I don't, I didn't, I didn't even watch it.

[Host]

I mean, it wasn't anything to watch. It was a 22nd fight.

[Clayton]

I heard about it, but I was like, I'm not going to watch that. This dude, I don't know much about him other than that I know he

[Guest]

way bigger than, than, than him and

[Clayton]

if he even slightly knows how to box, it's over with. Yeah, so it's like, it's like I don't really need to watch that shit. The only ones fights I've ever been surprised, man, I still thank God that I fell asleep before that Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight.

[Guest]

Because I was been about 20 on Mike Tyson.

[Host]

Oh God.

[Clayton]

And I was like, there, no way Jake Paul's beating Mike Tyson. And then it's like I was like, I fell asleep and then I woke up and I'm like, what the fuck?

[Host]

Just saved you 20k.

[Clayton]

Yeah, it would have been gone.

[Host]

It would have been gone quick. Now that you're fired up, I got to get your opinion on a couple other people that are trending right now. This I had, have you seen clavicular?

[Clayton]

See, so in the car ride, people were trying to tell me who he was because they were talking about it and I'M like, no, I haven't seen him. But I love to learn more about what's going on because I had a friend that referenced him who was a female. She referenced him for some reason, and I don't know what the reference was about. So I don't know.

[Host]

What was it about smacking or.

[Clayton]

I don't really know. I'm not gonna like. Okay, sit here, line. I'll get his summary, but if you can give me a summary, I'd appreciate that.

[Host]

So he's a 21 year. I believe he's 21.

[Clayton]

Or okay, because he's 19.

[Host]

He's young. He's young. Either way. He's on TR2 TRT. So he's taking testosterone.

[Clayton]

No, too young.

[Host]

He's been infertile for the past eight months.

[Clayton]

No.

[Host]

Yeah, he's on Accutane. He's on.

[Clayton]

Oh, God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Host]

Yeah, A bunch of Peptides. A bunch of.

[Clayton]

Okay, that's okay. Peptides is fine.

[Host]

He calls it looks maxing. He's basically trying to optimize his look. No, he believes looks are the most important trait as a male.

[Clayton]

I think it's helpful, but it ain't the most important trait. I've seen dudes who are three, 300 pounds, man, broke. Who will pour pull more than the prettiest pretty.

[Host]

Oh, and broke.

[Clayton]

And broke.

[Host]

I was gonna say I've seen.

[Clayton]

I've am broke.

[Host]

Okay. That's the problem.

[Clayton]

I've seen it before.

[Host]

Okay.

[Clayton]

And they just know how to talk. Confidence is key.

[Host]

Wow.

[Clayton]

Is the most attractive thing to women is confidence.

[Host]

And that works today, or did you see that growing up?

[Clayton]

No, I see that today.

[Host]

Really?

[Clayton]

Yeah. La, Miami, New York. I've seen dudes that, like, I'm surprised you would not expect. And they won't even. They could be in a hoodie with fudgeing dog hair on it.

[Host]

So you think confidence is number one?

[Clayton]

I think confidence is number one if you care about that. But I think there's more to life than, you know, I think there's more to life than that. As someone who's, like, chased, definitely a lot of that. I think that's probably like the least important thing. They paint the roof or something. I think that's the least, least important thing in life. Really, like, when you think about it. But for him, it could be feel really important because he's 21, you know, so I think at 21, it feels a lot more important than it does. I'm. I'm 31.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

You know, What? I mean, so, you know, different ideas. But I'll tell you, TRT's not good to take at 21, I'll tell you that. That's. That's. I don't know if there's ever a time that that's great to take. Maybe 50s if you really want to. But even then, you know, you're. You're shaving off years. No matter the way you look at it. You're shaving off.

[Host]

Yeah. For me, sex isn't important enough to shave off years. No, because, let's be honest, guys are taking it because they want to have sex. They want to get their dick hard.

[Clayton]

That's the main reason.

[Host]

Not the main reason, but if your tr. If your testosterone levels that helps with

[Clayton]

aswagonda will get your dick harder than anything.

[Host]

Really?

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Host]

Wow.

[Clayton]

I didn't know Ashwagandha. You could take a couple Ashwagandha pills, your dick will be as hard as a rock. What do you mean? That is 100. And if. I mean, the Internet will tell you. Wow. Yeah. Ashwagandha does that already. No side effects. What do you mean?

[Host]

All right, I gotta try that one out.

[Clayton]

Yeah, you'd be fine. It's. This shit's easy and honestly, a lot of that shit's blood flow, so just maintaining being active is really cute. I've even gotten back into being like just. Just walking every day and stuff.

[Host]

You look here since I've seen you.

[Clayton]

I probably am. I probably like 30, 40 pounds, leaner, like. But I don't. It takes a lot for me to

[Guest]

even look leaner, you know what I'm saying? So it's just.

[Clayton]

It's just. It's just, you know. You know, I just get busy and, you know, you. Sedentary lifestyle, you know, of musicians, you

[Guest]

know, a lot of it's just recording or whatever, but, you know, you, you.

[Clayton]

Yeah, yeah. Trt. That's crazy, bro. You can't.

[Guest]

It's just not good for you.

[Host]

I'm impressed with how insulated you say because you didn't know Clavicular, who's probably the number one streamer right now. You didn't know about the Megan Fox. Megan Fox and MGK stuff, so. Do you not even scroll when you're chilling, bro?

[Clayton]

I don't know what's on my phone. Then, like, I'd like. I'd like.

[Host]

You must have a weird ass feed.

[Clayton]

I guess I do. Like, because, like, do you know who like, like, I see a lot of like, pop baby Jano and Po Mal.

[Host]

Never heard of Shout out. J.

[Clayton]

No. And P O. Mao. I'm just not over it.

[Host]

Ever heard of them over it?

[Clayton]

I'm just not over it.

[Host]

I see.

[Clayton]

You never seen those guys.

[Host]

I see 80.

[Clayton]

Oh, my God.

[Host]

I see fresh and fit. I see clavicular.

[Clayton]

What the fuck is fresh and fit?

[Host]

You've never heard of fresh and fit?

[Clayton]

What is it, workouts?

[Host]

God, no. It's a red pill podcast.

[Clayton]

What's red pill?

[Host]

You don't know what the red pill movement is?

[Clayton]

Nah, I don't know. Are you acting like you're like, I'm learning. I'm learning.

[Host]

No, I'm impressed. I'm impressed.

[Clayton]

No, but what is red pill? So what does that mean?

[Host]

Is that the anti feminist movement? It's the movement that started to counter the feminist movement.

[Clayton]

Oh, yeah. For every action, there's equal opposite reaction.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

What's the. What's their. What's their goal? To counter the feminist movement. Like, what's. What's the. What's. What's, like, the end goal?

[Host]

Like, from what I've seen, they just want men to be more independent. They want them to sleep around more, basically.

[Guest]

Well, the scratching isn't annoying.

[Host]

Yeah, I mean, you don't like it, huh? Wow. So you don't see Nick Fuentes on your feed?

[Clayton]

Yo, somebody's talking about him too. And I'm like, no, I don't know who that is. And I was like, they're like, he's da da, da, da, da da. And I'm like, no, I've never seen him on my. Like, I don't know what's supposed to be on my feed. Like, is my Instagram fucked up or something?

[Host]

Well, your feed is based off your likes, so it depends what you're liking. Reposting, sharing, sending to people. So you just have a different.

[Clayton]

I'm going through a very Chinese time in my life. I see those. You don't see those.

[Host]

It's Chinese New Year.

[Guest]

You.

[Clayton]

You don't see the post where it's like, boom, you're Chinese for 24 hours. You've never seen those.

[Host]

Like, I'm Chinese.

[Clayton]

Yeah, well, you can. You. You can send somebody a post and then they'll be Chinese for Pfizer. Like, no, it's. Oh, no. It's not even anything racist. It will just say, like, that's they. You. You took a YouTube to a racial point.

[Host]

I took it too literal.

[Clayton]

You took it too literally. I was like, damn. At first off, I've seen Chinese with all different kinds of eyes. It's A wide variety of country. We don't even want to try. We love China over here, baby. China's dope. China's dope. I want to go to China.

[Host]

I've been.

[Clayton]

I, I, I want to go to China. Since I want to. I think it's A and B.

[Host]

You would be a God over there, by the way, because of your height. They would come up to you and touch you and take photos with you.

[Clayton]

Did they pay me? Yeah, did they pay me? But go to A and B. I think it's A and B. Seafood or just A and B. Chinese in San Francisco.

[Guest]

You ever been to San Francisco?

[Clayton]

I have been to San Francisco. I'm saying go to this, this, this restaurant.

[Host]

Oh, okay.

[Clayton]

Oh, my God. The best Chinese food. I brought a Chinese friend of mine there just to confirm, to be like,

[Host]

damn, I'm going there in April, so I'll definitely go.

[Clayton]

Yeah. I think it's called A and B or a B. It might be ABC food. Or just A and B. Seafood or. Or A and B. I think, like, like, just look up Chinese food. Obama.

[Guest]

Because Obama ate there.

[Clayton]

A lot of people ate there. It's like. I don't know. That's the first one. They got pictures up there. It's kind of like, Right. Nestled in Chinatown. But if you go there, it's crazy. Do you speak Chinese?

[Host]

I used to. I forgot it.

[Clayton]

Okay. But you know, like, enough to, like, what to order?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Okay, cool.

[Clayton]

That's all you venue, like, in. No, it's like. But I went by myself one day. Then I brought my friend. She's Chinese. The next day.

[Host]

Okay.

[Clayton]

And there was a little overlap between the orders where I was like, okay, I kind of know what I'm doing. Right. And then there was like. She ordered some that I was like,

[Host]

cured the chicken feet, didn't she?

[Clayton]

No, she. She didn't order that. She ordered, like, this cod and this sauce and other stuff where I was like, yo, China got some of the best food people just sleep on.

[Host]

Yeah. Chinese food's a tier for sure.

[Clayton]

Like, the real Chinese food. Like, I'm not talking about, like, the local. Yeah.

[Host]

Not par. Express.

[Clayton]

Yeah. I've never even been there, bro. Like, I'll be honest.

[Guest]

I've never been there in my life.

[Clayton]

I've never eaten there ever. I. I would never go there. Like, I. Even in a mall or airport, I've walked past that.

[Host]

It's just.

[Clayton]

I've never gone, like, I just. I'm not doing that. If, if you're, if you don't Look, Chinese. And you make. Serve me Chinese food. I'm not eating.

[Host]

Yup. Same thing with sushi, if you don't look Japanese, Hell no.

[Clayton]

I had a black.

[Host]

I went to pick up a sushi order, and I'm not trying to be racist, but the chef was black. No. And I was like, fuck, should I even eat this? No. You know what I mean?

[Clayton]

No, no, no.

[Host]

Black guy making sushi.

[Clayton]

Hell no. If it ain't. The only people who can make sushi because they can make everything, is Mexicans. Mexicans can make anything. If you see Mexicans in the kitchen, they can make anything. Mexicans, Guatemalans, they will make anything. They'll do some fire sushi. I don't know. That's a question for the Mexicans. I think we. I think, like, the Mexicans are honestly, as a people, the best chefs ever. If you go to any restaurant in LA and it's got good food, you look in the back, you will see Mexicans. They are the best chefs on the planet. As a whole people, obviously, I'm sure there's some top rated chefs from, like,

[Guest]

different groups, but if you took a

[Clayton]

whole group of people and just had to say, okay, who's got it locked down? The Mexicans. Am I wrong?

[Host]

No.

[Clayton]

Are you from la? So you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Then, like, you see them in the back of the kitchen, you're like, all right, we're good, we're good.

[Host]

You mentioned Obama earlier. Did you see his clip a couple of days ago about the aliens?

[Clayton]

No. Obama's talking about aliens.

[Host]

Yes. So he was on a podcast out here in la and he basically confirmed aliens are real.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I think they're real, but so, man, that pisses me off. So I had a video of me at Santa Monica where I was convinced. I see the aliens, right? We try to enhance this so many times, bro. I gotta go get tested for schizophrenia

[Guest]

or something, I swear to God.

[Clayton]

Because we enhanced this video so many times. And Chris was like, oh, you can kind of see them if you look on there. I'm like, bro, I don't see. I literally took a video of the sky, bro.

[Guest]

I'm.

[Clayton]

I'm like, if. If maybe people seen aliens, but I ain't seen aliens. I've literally wasted my time. I'm over here. You even see me freak out in the video. I can't pick them up on camera. You can't pick them on. On camera because you stupid. You're filming the sky like that's what really happened. It's the funniest to me, too. Like, I thought. I don't know, because I thought I saw squids in the air, and they look like squids. I was freaking out because I'd never seen a squid in the air. First I thought it was a kite, you know, and you're Asian. You know, you guys got elaborate kites. Yeah, you have some of the best

[Host]

kites in the world, for sure.

[Clayton]

And so I thought it was just, oh, there's a little kid with a squid kite at night now. These things started circling and everything. But I think that shit was just in my head. I mean, admittedly so at the time. I don't consume cannabis anymore. I was consuming cannabis, so maybe it was, you know, it was from a dispensary. But shit, I got to ask if that shit was laced or not, because I was seeing flying squids and shit. So now I'm thinking, like, I really wish I could have brought you a video of some flying squids and said, yo, I've seen them. I confirm them. I know there's aliens. I saw the squids. They came out of the water. Boom. And I was going to show the video. I was so proud of it. I was.

[Guest]

And there's nothing in the video, bro.

[Host]

That happened to me, bro. Same thing. I was in my hot tub.

[Clayton]

Oh, my God.

[Host]

Ufo. I almost went live on Instagram, but I took a video instead, and then it was just Starlink.

[Clayton]

You think it was Starlink for me, too?

[Host]

No, no, mine was Starlink.

[Clayton]

But, like, there's a possibility, right?

[Guest]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think.

[Clayton]

I think it could have been like, oh, man, I felt so dumb after watching the video. I watched it, like, 10 times, and Crystal's trying to be like, well, you can kind of see him, like, trying to validate me. And God bless him, man, for that. I appreciate that.

[Host]

No, I. I do think they exist.

[Clayton]

No, they exist for sure, logically. Like, okay, so, I mean, some. I mean, you. You've heard about, like, I can't describe it very well, so if I'm gonna butcher.

[Guest]

But like, quantum entanglement and all this stuff like that they're kind of discovering, so with, like, the protons being in two places and all this stuff.

[Clayton]

So, like, I mean, when you think about that, the. What. Our knowledge of what we know is so small. Of course there's aliens. I. Oh, my God. You know how many times I'll say, probably once a week, I go to

[Guest]

that lady, the we are here, lady.

[Host]

We are Here, lady.

[Clayton]

You have. We are here. We are here. Oh, the one I have. It's the funniest ever on me, bro.

[Host]

You check her page once a week?

[Clayton]

No, I check that clip once a week. I'll literally search. We are here on Tick Tock. Because you can find it easier on there. That's the funniest. That's, like, top 10. One of the funniest I've ever seen on the Internet. That's the. Like. I can't believe how funny that was. I don't know how you stayed with a straight face. You, like, honestly, that. I don't. I. I would have had to, like, get up, cover my mouth, because, I mean, I. I don't know if. And do you think she was serious?

[Host]

Like, yes. She didn't tell me. Okay, so here's that.

[Clayton]

What happened, Because I. I gotta know

[Host]

how many she was gonna channel on the show. And for me, I'm like, all right, channel. Like, your voice isn't gonna change like that. Like, I'm down. You could do a. Like, channel an alien, whatever. So I'm, like, getting ready. We finished the episode. And then she's like, can I channel now? And I'm like, yeah, let's do it. And then that voice just starts. And I just got shocked. I was so shocked, because I did not expect that. So I think that's what kept me from laughing because I was so shocked. And then I just, like, held it in. But, dude, the crazy part is the TV screens were going off and on. Was that in the clip?

[Clayton]

No.

[Host]

It might be in the full episode.

[Clayton]

No. Okay, so maybe I. Oh, shit. Maybe there is some. Maybe I shouldn't be laughing now she gonna come for me. I started the wrong beat she was doing.

[Host]

We had to replace all the.

[Clayton]

I take everything I said back. Oh, you had to replace the one. I take everything I said back.

[Host]

Oh, every single.

[Clayton]

I take everything I said back. I don't know who she was channeling, what channel she was on, but I take everything I said back. Replacing wires and. Hell no.

[Host]

We had to replace plays every wire. I filmed over a thousand episodes in that studio. That's never happened. I also had weird chest pain when she was doing it.

[Clayton]

Oh, hell no, bro. I. Well, I apologize. I redact my statement saying that was hilarious. I don't watch that clip every week. I lied. I'm sorry. I redact my statement. Oh, damn.

[Host]

Channeling now.

[Clayton]

Like, how. What kind of range did. You know what city she's in?

[Guest]

What kind of range does she have?

[Host]

I don't know, dude.

[Clayton]

Is it, like, close range or is

[Host]

it, like she said, every podcast she's been on, that's happened.

[Clayton]

Yeah. We got to find out what city

[Guest]

she's in and figure out the rain gun that.

[Clayton]

Because then. Then it depends on if I redact my statement. Because if I can keep some distance, you know, I keep my statement, but if. If, if. If I. I don't know, man. It's just like, I've never seen it. I've gone to, like, haunted places. I've gone to, like, I've. I've done, like, seances. I've done, like, occult stuff. I've tried to do, like, Hemi, Sync, all this shit, and, like, nothing really has ever happened to me.

[Host]

Wow.

[Clayton]

I. Like. Like, I've done all the. Like, I've tried, like, let me just try all the crazy shit and just

[Guest]

see if some crazy shit that's, like, not human happens.

[Clayton]

And none of it happened.

[Guest]

So.

[Clayton]

I don't know, sometimes I just wonder if anything's really real or all we have is this moment, and all this is here, so we got to make the best of it, you know? And I think, like, that's one thing that I've started to realize. It's like, to live in the moment, be in the moment. Because the more I do a deeper dive, that less I feel like I know.

[Host]

Well said. I mean, it all could very well be a distraction. Even Trump announced yesterday he's declassifying some UFO documents. But who knows if that's just another distraction.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's

[Guest]

going on with him, dog. Like, I don't.

[Clayton]

I don't know what's going on with him. Like, all the good about him he ain't doing, and then he doing, like,

[Guest]

all the typical shit.

[Clayton]

Like, it's just like. Like. Cause you're thinking like, okay, Trump, right? You're thinking like, I don't agree with all the shit he say, but you're thinking, like, financially, he got to figure something out, right? Like, we're not going to head into a recession under him. Like, we're not. Shit's not going to get more fucked up.

[Host]

Ego would be too big for that, I think.

[Clayton]

But then it's like, nah, shit, we're about to hit a badass recession.

[Host]

He won't admit it, though, but it's

[Clayton]

like, bro, fix this shit. You made a billion dollars plus, like, fix this shit, bro. Like, figure it out. Like, do whatever you got to do to figure this shit out. You wasting your time doing all this ICE shit. Waste of time. Wasting my taxpayer money. Yeah, you wasting my taxpayer money on this bullshit. You wasted my taxpayer money on all this shit. Figure this shit out. I'm always Team America because I got to live here. Like, I don't vote, but I'm always Team America. So whoever president, you know, I'm going to vote for them. You know what I'm saying? Or not vote for them, Poll for them. How do you vote for the president? Like, but you know what I'm saying, I'm always going to poll for whoever is fucking President. I've never voted before, just.

[Host]

I don't think I ever will.

[Clayton]

It's so hard, man. After now all this, it's impossible.

[Host]

I mean, if you vote in Cali, it's, it's a wash, you know, I don't. Yeah, I mean, it's always a Democrat.

[Clayton]

Like, what do you mean? Like, like the local?

[Host]

No, not at the local. At the presidential level.

[Clayton]

Yeah. I just don't even think it matters. Like, I'm told a lot of that

[Guest]

is just even fixed anyways or stuff like that. I'm told, like, whoever they really want is picked ahead of time.

[Host]

No 100%.

[Clayton]

Like, so it's like, you know, this

[Guest]

has already been proven. People can choose whether or not to believe it or not. But all this shit's kind of just been proven.

[Host]

Like they say every president since JFK has been pre approved.

[Clayton]

Since before that.

[Host]

You think before jfk?

[Clayton]

No, before that. Of course. Come on, JFK was cool.

[Guest]

I fuck with him.

[Clayton]

But. Oh, you seen that shit with James Franco though? Circle back around. No, it's like 11, 1163.

[Guest]

Oh, fuck. It's like the date of JFK's assassination. So I'm sure people will know. But it's a really good. It's just based off a Stephen King novel where he goes back in time to try to stop the JFK assassination. But I don't want to give away the ending to you, but it's.

[Host]

Oh, it's a movie.

[Clayton]

It's a miniseries. I think if you enjoy. It's pretty historically accurate, I think. It's.

[Guest]

It's fun.

[Clayton]

It's got a little bit of sci fi in there.

[Guest]

I don't know if you watch television or not.

[Clayton]

Not really.

[Host]

Not Nothing modern. It's too much programming for me.

[Clayton]

You feel like there's a lot of programming?

[Host]

Television? Oh, yeah.

[Clayton]

Like, how do I know to avoid it?

[Host]

Look at who funds it. Like, for example, did you watch Stranger Things?

[Guest]

Bro, I want my money back.

[Clayton]

That just sucks. That's just sucks. I want my money back. Like, bro, like, I want. I want. I want free Netflix for a year from having to watch that shit. What was the programming in Stranger Things? Because I'll tell you this, I could barely stay awake. Was the programming to go to sleep?

[Host]

Probably. Yeah. That last season was brutal, bro. There was a lot of, like, all

[Guest]

the seasons were brutal.

[Clayton]

I don't.

[Host]

There was a couple decent. You thought all of them sucked?

[Clayton]

Yeah, that show sucks.

[Host]

Well, the first season sucked. The last season sucked. I feel like some of the middle ones were okay.

[Clayton]

This season sucked. But I'll say, like, some of the kids from there make interesting music. Ooh.

[Host]

I'll give you that.

[Clayton]

I. I honestly, listen, I'll say some of them. Actually, the one kid, he's a certified hit maker.

[Host]

Mike. The tall one?

[Guest]

No, the. The older one.

[Host]

Older one. Oh, oh, dj.

[Clayton]

He certified hit maker back in Chicago. I don't like that song, per se. But, like, everybody does.

[Host]

That song's annoyingly good.

[Clayton]

Yeah, but like. And then I'll say the younger one, it's whichever one, his name is, like, Finn or some. Yeah, Mike, we listened to some of his music. It kind of sound like almost like Adventure Time. He asked music.

[Host]

Yeah, he looks like the guy from Adventure Time, too.

[Clayton]

But I'm telling you, it's pretty. It's. It's interesting. I'll give him that. I think it's pretty. Like, it's cool to kind of drop

[Guest]

something like that in 2026.

[Clayton]

So I think a lot of them

[Guest]

are more musically talented than actor talented because that show sucks.

[Clayton]

And then I think the girl's not bad looking, although.

[Host]

Ginger. Ginger girl or the Eleven.

[Clayton]

Not the child, man.

[Host]

No, Eleven is.

[Clayton]

We ain't on the island.

[Host]

Not, not literally 11 years old. Her name was Eleven.

[Clayton]

I don't. But she still started off as a kid on tv. She started off as a kid on tv. She'll stay as a kid on TV to me. Because if I can rewind to season one and you a child, my ain't getting up for that. I'll tell you in two seconds. It's like, so, yeah, it's like that. If you start off and I saw you as a child, unless I was a child when you was a child, and then we grew up together, that's giving us different. Yeah, so like, you know, like, like, you know, Miley Cyrus or some shit. Maybe not now, but like, at some point.

[Host]

Yeah. You know, people freak out when girls launch OnlyFans at 18 and then they crush it.

[Clayton]

Oh, that shit is wild. But I mean, it's wild.

[Guest]

Like, I'm just never going to be involved in that kind of behavior.

[Clayton]

I don't like to really. I'm 31, so I don't really like

[Guest]

to be around women. Like, I prefer women over 25, 26, 27, like, to where they're more established in their.

[Clayton]

Their lives and stuff. And I don't know, I just think, like, somebody's brain isn't all the way

[Guest]

there when they're young.

[Clayton]

So, I mean, it's different. It's different. But I'm just.

[Guest]

I don't like to mess around with women.

[Host]

Proven now. Science says until 26. Your brain is still developing now.

[Guest]

And what I did, man, I literally just gave that age range.

[Clayton]

Wolf, I'm on fire today.

[Host]

Yeah, I feel like crushing it.

[Clayton]

I'm on fire.

[Host]

But, yeah, there was some programming in that show, man. I don't know if you watched the episode where the guy came out as gay.

[Clayton]

And, bro, they explain that plot longer than how to Beat Vecna. They spend more time on that. Honestly, I fell asleep. But I knew online people are like, even complaining. They're like, no, but I mean, that kids gay in real life, right? Yeah. And I love the gays. Like, I think that's cool. Are you going to say the gays, or is that.

[Guest]

That's almost like a trump.

[Host]

I'm not against them, but I don't want them. So, like, for example, Disney announced years ago that 25% of their cast will be LGBTQ.

[Clayton]

And what was their reason?

[Host]

DEI diversity equity.

[Clayton]

Oh, I thought somebody got jump pulled over drunk driving. I was like, damn. No, no.

[Host]

Dei.

[Clayton]

I was like, how does that have to do?

[Host]

DEI was like a government program too.

[Clayton]

Okay. Yeah, I'm. I love minorities.

[Host]

So you don't have an issue with 25 of the cast being LGBTQ and Disney movies for children, I mean, it's their company.

[Clayton]

If they have to do it, like, whatever. Like what. What are we talking about for children?

[Host]

Like, like, all their movies. Disney movies.

[Clayton]

I'm not gonna watch a. From this. A movie at 31. I've never seen Frozen.

[Host]

Well, yeah, for us, we don't give a. I'm saying, like, if we have over here. Do you want kids to watch that?

[Clayton]

I could control what my kids watch, you know, I mean, I could have just beat their ass. So, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's the. That's the beauty of it.

[Host]

You think you could control them, though? Yeah, because they got these. These days, nine Won't. You won't give your, your phone your kid.

[Clayton]

They'll have like a cricket wireless or some where you can only dial that. They ain't going to have an iPhone until they're 18 out of here.

[Host]

Babies are getting iPads these days.

[Clayton]

No, not kid, not a kid. I'm a father. At least not one I'm going to claim.

[Guest]

Maybe I'll father one, you know.

[Host]

Yeah, I didn't have an iPhone till high school. I feel like.

[Clayton]

No, I don't think a pocket computer. Hell no. I'll tell you that right now. Like. But I mean, here's the thing. Companies are going to do what they're

[Guest]

going to do, when they're going to do it.

[Clayton]

And they, they might have a multitude

[Guest]

of reasons they could be trying to get funding.

[Clayton]

I know Walt Disney's racist ass is rolling over in his grave. Like, that was racist. That motherfucker was pen pals with Hitler. Oh, oh, oh. Not a conspiracy, by the way. So people really want to look into that. They were pen pals with Hitler. People do research on the shit I say when I say it on here. So they don't say, oh, is he conspiracy theorist is. Whatever, bro. It's not a conspiracy. If you can look this up. Like, like, like that's what I hate being called. And it's like, bro, I don't ever come and say, like, how often do I go out on a limb and say something wild. That's like, like very few times. So I mean, I don't know. I don't even, I don't even fucking like Disneyland or some shit. I don't even know what, when it would even really come up. Like, so like in a Disney movie, how do they make it to where, like, how do they incorporate, how do they mix that in? Because I ain't even seen any, like, sexuality in general in their movies.

[Host]

They got a lot of heat for it. So I don't know if they're still following that 25% rule, but basically they were planning on making someone in the main cast gay trans.

[Clayton]

How would somebody even know? Like, how would a child even know is my question.

[Host]

Yeah, I didn't know what that was as a child.

[Clayton]

Like, I didn't like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I also think, like, it's, it's kind of funny because to me that almost sounds like they're associating certain characteristics with being gay, which is prejudice itself. It is so like, you know, so it's kind of funny that they would even say that, like, oh, we're going to make this character gay. First off, like, that's kind of prejudice because, like, how, how would you know they're gay?

[Guest]

What?

[Clayton]

Oh, they're wearing clothing that are talking a certain way. That's mad prejudice. I've known gay people, like, I, I, I, I got a big LGBTQ plus. I think I got it right. Fan base. And I love them. They're amazing. I love them. And there's. They're dope and they're huge supporters of mine and I'm an advocate 100% for everybody's rights at all times. Like, because somebody's got to stick up for people's rights. Now as a private company, like, because Disney's private is publicly, they might be

[Host]

public because they're fudgeing big bottom.

[Clayton]

Yeah, well, I just think I don't really have a right to tell a company what they're going to do or not, if that makes any sense. At the same time, I don't have a right to tell a company if they want to say something anti gay or anti whatever. Like, if they want to do that. I think that's cool. But I think, I mean, I don't like any agenda of any kind of sexual stuff being pushed on children in general. So I think if, if I think it's not really a, a particularly a gay problem, it's an over sexualization of children in general.

[Host]

I agree.

[Clayton]

Which, so it comes out and manifests in different ways, but I don't think it's particularly with that kind of, those kind of people. See, I mean, your boy got the trans flag cup there. Water bottle. So, you know, he with it, he, he down with the movement. So, you know, he got, you know, he got, he got that. So it's like, I think it's, I think it's great, man. Like, I've never felt like I was like, out of touch with myself or uncomfortable with myself. So I think whatever makes people comfortable. You know, history's defined it. Like, I mean, go look back at

[Guest]

the Spartans, like, you know all about that.

[Clayton]

They were gay, like, all of them. So I think it's like, I think whatever society es and flows and we can't really change this stuff. And I know a lot of people, like, want to, and I think that's cool, but they're really wasting their time.

[Host]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, the Spartans were gay, dude. They didn't show that in the movie 300, but they should have, bro.

[Clayton]

They used to, like, suck on each other's balls before battle or Some shit. I don't know if this is real. This is where I could be bullshitting, but, like, I heard this from somebody, that they would suck on each other's balls because I thought it was, like, more Would make it more masculine, stronger, which I don't know who started that. Somebody told a lie, and then they just carried that shit. Somebody was finessing out there, was like, yo, you know, I heard. You know, I just heard that if we did this, we might win this battle somehow convince the whole army. Motherfuckers was like, what a lie. Yeah. But the thing that I know is true, that the Spartans, because you talked about, you know, we were advocating for erectile function, not dysfunction. Right. We were advocating for erectile function over here. Shot ashwagandha. And, you know, they had to shave the women's heads in Sparta to get that, like, to. To, like, get them to be more masculine at the weddings so they could like them like, whoa. Or else the men would, like, couldn't get it up because they were so

[Host]

used to having feminine.

[Guest]

They were.

[Clayton]

They were too used to. Well, I guess not feminine, but too used to having homosexual relations with other men, which is like. I mean, I have nothing against, like, when I say these things. These are just historical facts.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

Like, I. I love gay people. I think it's great because they're like. It's great. They're like. They're chill. Yeah, you'd be surprised. Like, you go talk to a lot of these people, they're a lot more chill. They don't even really want this pushed on. Pushed on kids either. Yeah.

[Guest]

Believe it or not, I feel that, dude.

[Host]

Well, let's end it there. What a topic to end on.

[Clayton]

But, yeah, I just want to say I support, you know, all them because I just don't want to be like. I hope they understand that I just speak, you know, from the heart always. But I always am going to support

[Guest]

anybody like, that I feel is downtrodden or whatever.

[Host]

Or whatever.

[Guest]

Oh, that's like, whatever you know, working on.

[Host]

Where could people find you? Any projects coming up?

[Clayton]

I have projects. I mean, I have tourism. This hat's heavy as, but I see

[Host]

how heavy this is, bro.

[Clayton]

Yeah, hold this is one hand. Look how long we did. Like, like, can we get the time clock and how long we did.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

One hour of this. Can I get, like. Like, one hour of this?

[Host]

I should have says, like, a dumbbell award.

[Clayton]

I should have an award. Well done and crazy and think about it. I have to think and answer questions like, while this is on. This is on your head.

[Host]

It's like a weight.

[Clayton]

My neck is stronger. I'm gonna look like.

[Guest]

Oh, man.

[Host]

I know who you're talking about.

[Clayton]

You already know.

[Host]

They train that their neck. Yeah.

[Clayton]

No. Who's Coilerae's dad?

[Host]

Corey leray's dad? I don't know.

[Clayton]

He knows. Come on.

[Host]

Coy Larae.

[Clayton]

Oh, the dude who lost in the b Venom. We end on this.

[Host]

Coy Lara's dad.

[Clayton]

Look up his neck. Got the biggest neck on the planet.

[Host]

I know boxers are fighters. Trainer now. Click. UFC fighters because they don't want to get knocked out easy. You know this dude.

[Guest]

This like a human bullet.

[Clayton]

The coil array.

[Host]

We'll edit a photo, then we'll throw a photo up of him.

[Clayton]

Throw a photo up of him, man. Why do I forget his name? I'm. I'm Benzino. Benzino. That's what we end on. Benzino, guys. Got the biggest neck on the planet, bro. He does straight neck ups.

[Host]

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