Ivan Rakeland (1:18)

Well, I wouldn't say that. And then what else? We had FBI coming after me for January 6th, the feds coming after me for my Covid stance of never bending a knee on any of that stuff and exposing all their corruption. Never bending a knee on the electoral. We're gonna be on comedube, right?

Mike Kelly (1:37)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (1:37)

So I gotta be careful. Or maybe I'll just nuke your account.

Mike Kelly (1:41)

Please don't.

Ivan Rakeland (1:43)

With my First Amendment sounds. No, I. Basically 2020 election Covid, January 6th. On anything, I didn't bend a knee. And I started to investigate those that were trying to stop us from speaking, and it didn't work out so well for them.

Mike Kelly (2:00)

You went James o' Keefe on their ass.

Ivan Rakeland (2:02)

I would say on steroids. Sometimes a trillion squared. Because James, although he does great work, he's not an insider. He reports on and uses whistleblowers. I'm a 25 year insider. Like, I know these names like the back of my hand. I know a lot of these people and I know a lot of people that work for these people. Let's just say I, you know, people said, oh, you're a Fed, Fed. I run Feds like I run people to inform me of what's going on to the tune of James o'. Keefe. Like on steroids.

Mike Kelly (2:32)

Yeah, there's levels of this stuff.

Ivan Rakeland (2:34)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (2:35)

Yeah. So when you say insider, you they.

Ivan Rakeland (2:36)

With the wrong insider is what I'm saying. They like, the fastest way to what to have me be your enemy and weaponize against you is tell me what I can't do and force me into consuming things that I just don't want to consume. And so now it comes down to, you know, we play a game of chicken. And I don't care if you're backed by trillions. There's two options in a game of chicken. I either win or you lose.

Mike Kelly (2:59)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (3:00)

It's up to you to decide on how much pain you're willing to receive in that process. Because I'm willing to go to the max. Charlie went to the max. Ashley Babbitt went to the max. Roseanne Boylan went to the max. Numerous people that ended up taking the unsafe and ineffective products went to the max. So it would be cowardly of me to not go to the max.

Mike Kelly (3:20)

Did you know early on with the Jabowski what was going on there? Is that what we're supposed to call it on YouTube?

Ivan Rakeland (3:25)

Yeah, the safe products. Yeah, the extremely safe and effective products. So I would say I changed my views on it three weeks into it. So March of 2020, by late February 2020. I used to teach intelligence analysis and other things over at the Defense Intelligence Agency. And so I kind of got a sense that, you know, you had a lab incident. That theory was the more convincing one. The lab incident theory for me. And then later turns out to be true. But I'd say when the lockdowns happened, I didn't really buy into it. And I thought three weeks into it, after consuming all the different state governors and federal entities within their Facebook accounts as they were putting stuff out, and I saw a divergence in policies on how people approached responding to the pandemic. Right. I felt something's off. And so I don't buy it. And luckily I didn't, because I was. I would say that I'm probably the one of the biggest voices and most aggressive voices over these last five years that not only did I just personally not accept it, I just pushed back to the maximum until the censorship came. And then once the censorship came, that only escalated. Like that forced me into escalating even more against the syndicate, if you will.

Mike Kelly (4:51)

Did you get banned everywhere?

Ivan Rakeland (4:53)

Not everywhere, but, I mean, I got censored on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, LinkedIn, Instagram. And so I just started doing events in person as I exposed all of it and just kept escalating from there. And then when Elon purchased X and Rumble was out and Truth Social just continued my voice digitally there. And I mean, at the end of the day, I hate to say it, still undefeated.

Mike Kelly (5:19)

And you're still censored, by the way. I was preparing for this episode, trying to watch your YouTube podcast. It's hard to find shit on you online, dude.

Ivan Rakeland (5:26)

I might have a Hodge Twins interview. Yeah, I might have a clip of Tucker Carlson when he was still on FO News. So funny story. So I was on Tucker, his daytime program when he was still at Paul Ryan's little outfit, that scumbag. And I agreed. I've never done a mainstream media show by design on purpose because they're all cowards to me. They're either cowards at best and more than likely completely treasonous traitors complicit in the entire five year op that we experienced. Right. And so why am I gonna support, like, why would I disrespect somebody like you or Jake or others that pushed back right to me, like, I owe it to you to give you as much time and attention because you've proven up as opposed to those that complied with the censorship. I'm like, I'm not gonna spend energy, like, I'm not gonna. I get hit up like probably every week by New York Times, Washington Post, I call them new woke slimes. Washington, Compost, Huffington, Compost, Criminal News Network, etc, looking for a scoop story. Like, I don't need them, they need me and I need them to go bankrupt because they just ruined our country for five years. They need to be punished. And if this government's not going to punish them, like I have to use my influence and mechanism to punish them. And so that's why you don't see a lot of content. Because I just don't care for those organizations. They need to be destroyed.

Mike Kelly (6:54)

But you saw Tucker as someone that was kind of going against the grain a little bit.

Ivan Rakeland (6:57)

Tucker, it's because on his daytime program Fox Today, he had full, complete editorial control over the content that was placed. And I had conversations with him and his, his team. I said, hey, I'm going to talk about stuff that's going to get you canceled. I'm going to talk about things that are going to be paid for. He's like, oh, don't worry, on the daytime show we got full. No one's going to touch. Wow.

Mike Kelly (7:23)

Shout out to him because he's.

Ivan Rakeland (7:24)

But on the Fox News, like on his nighttime program, he would still get calls from Paul Ryan or Rupert Murdoch. To say, hey, you can't air this person or you can't talk about that. And so when you look at the clip that was taken out from that interview and posted, it was basically driving their accepted narrative. Because, I mean, in a, in a one hour interview, you can clip out something that's going to be benign. Right. That's not going to expose some of the more hot topics in the rest of the interview. So they just focused on, what do they call it, disinformation in the military. And dei. Right. That's an easy subject, right, to talk about. Like, oh, you're not in support of dei.

Mike Kelly (8:02)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (8:02)

Or.

Mike Kelly (8:02)

Or that's not even a controversial take anymore, I feel like.

Ivan Rakeland (8:05)

Yeah. And so what they didn't talk about was the vaccines, the January 6, 2020 election. And so when I saw that, that was the only time I did an interview. Cause I knew that I could talk about it and it would get out.

Mike Kelly (8:21)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (8:22)

But absent that, I've refused Newsmax, I've refused all of them. Cnn, msnbc, Fox. Like, there's no reason for them to exist. Independent ones. Yeah. I do as many independent shows as possible because you've proven up. And plus, like, I want to get the truth out and I don't want to go and enable somebody to make money off of my. Like, I'm not big by any stretch of the means. And maybe I'm small because of the censorship, whatever, but I'd rather grind through the censorship so that like, American knowledge and consent is like, the consent of the people is not manufactured through AI bots or censorship. Does that make sense?

Mike Kelly (9:09)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (9:09)

Dead end. That's a long, nerdy, nerdy answer.

Mike Kelly (9:11)

No, it is.

Ivan Rakeland (9:12)

It makes a short question. Yeah, but this needs to go viral, damn it. We can't be talking about nerd shit.

Mike Kelly (9:19)

Let's go viral then.

Ivan Rakeland (9:22)

Let's go.

Mike Kelly (9:23)

What have you been investigating lately that's keeping you up at night?

Ivan Rakeland (9:28)

Nothing keeps me up at night. I mean, they fear me.

Mike Kelly (9:30)

Nothing phases you anymore.

Ivan Rakeland (9:31)

They fear me, man.

Mike Kelly (9:32)

It's like you've never stumbled across something where you're like, what the fuck?

Ivan Rakeland (9:36)

I think I'm past that. Damn the corruption in our government. I mean, think about it. They mutilate themselves, they mutilate their kids, right? So if you survive, this is where you're gonna get in trouble. Because, like, I. I don't censor myself. And I don't like it when somebody asks me to hold back because somebody has to move the. You know the term Overton window, Right.

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Ivan Rakeland (11:08)

So somebody has to be on the counter of the garbage that they're the other side the demonic side is putting out.

Mike Kelly (11:15)

Good point.

Ivan Rakeland (11:16)

And I don't say it lightly. So I don't know about you. I kind of do. You're 27, 28. 28. I'm 49. So for some of you young punks out there, they're like, oh man, this guy's old boomer. Whatever. Bring it on, bro. Like I could take.

Mike Kelly (11:31)

You got young energy though.

Ivan Rakeland (11:32)

I can probably take 99% of your audience, right? Easy. And please challenge me on it, I beg it. But here's where I'm at. If you got somebody that's, say for example, your parent that want to come in and mutilate your child or before that want to promote you to murder your child before they're born, that's extremism. That's totally fucking extremism. If you go from, oh, the baby survived and that you had the birth and you want to post birth, murder the child like in California, New York or Virginia almost passed that. And they're probably going to pass it now that we have a Democrat governor and ag and trifecta coming in on January 17th, that's extremism, that's going to be a problem because that's complete lawlessness. And when it's lawless like that, folks like me are not going to accept it. Even though you may have the power and influence and discretionary and more than discretionary authority to try to compel me into something. It's not going to end well. It's going to end in mutually assured destruction. And there's enough of us that are willing to go that way. So when I say moving the Overton window, they're like, oh, we're doing medical affirming care. No, that's fucking called mutilation, okay? That's called child endangerment. That's called child neglect asphyxiation. When you're forcing somebody to consume a face, toilet, or medical nose rape to test whether or not you got the. The thing right. The flu. Yeah, the Wuhan flu. So, I mean, to summarize that question is when they're willing to do that, when they're willing to murder, slaughter, conduct genocide, my rhetoric that only advocates for them to be held to account for it to be censored, that becomes a problem not for me, but for them. And nothing keeps me up and down because they're willing to go to the max on everything. Like they've already proven that they have. And just most people don't see that that occurred because they were censored into believing that that's not a thing. When it is.

Mike Kelly (13:47)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (13:47)

I mean, just a couple days ago, there was a study that came out from the lead doctor over at the HHS that has to deal with this, I think at the fda. Ten children were killed by the jabs.

Mike Kelly (13:58)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (13:58)

First time they finally came out with a study on that. Even though we've. Rogan's been talking about it with doctors like McCullough, Malone. Teresa Long, army whistleblower. Doc Pete Chambers, army whistleblower. Sam Sigel, armory whistleblower. Lt. Mark Bashaw, army whistleblower. I know all these people. Like, you've done 2,000 yearly interviews. I've been 25 years in the system, so I know who I can trust based on that previous body of experience and interactions that I had with him. And those that are professionals are telling me one thing behind the scenes and have the courage to say it publicly is not congruent with what the talking heads are saying on behalf of making money from their sponsors. It's like a 180. So, yeah, I'm not bending a knee and I'm not losing any sleep over anybody. But I think your question was like, what are the most important things you want that I've been investigating.

Mike Kelly (14:58)

Yeah, well, I gotta.

Ivan Rakeland (15:00)

You're gonna get banned on everything if I start talking about.

Mike Kelly (15:02)

It's not deep. Holy shit.

Ivan Rakeland (15:04)

So let's start out with it. Epstein files. Bibi Netanyahu, Miriam Adelson in your backyard? Yeah, she lives out here in Las Vegas. Suzy Wiles, the chief of staff over there in the White House right now, Donald Trump. Chris La Civita, the guy pulling in Adelson's money and deploying it through Trump world campaigns in order to primary Thomas Massie. Why? Because Thomas Massie wants pull some of the influence and leverage that Miriam Adelson has through her connections with Israel and Bibi Netanyahu to hold people under blackmail because of what those Epstein files have. That's one thing. Number two, the 2020 election heist that occurred, that is being investigated by a guy by the name of Kurt Olson over in the White House who is the number one draft pick to expose the election heist that occurred in Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and here, right here in Nevada. I mean, I know almost all these people. Like when the 2020 election was going on, right after the 2020 election, I took it upon myself to basically say, hey America, I'm a lawyer. I'm a constitutional lawyer. Here's how the electoral count process works to get an election completed between the state legislatures and the president and the Congress. What happened? You know that 39 states ran their elections illegally in 2020? Not just the six, because the way you run federal elections for president, it's the state legislature that decides how the election goes in each state. Well, due to Covid, non legislative actors decided how to run the election. The melons Malin governors decided how to do it. State Secretary of State totally violated the state legislature's election law, which triggered a violation of the federal constitutions.

Mike Kelly (16:44)

No voter ID on some states too.

Ivan Rakeland (16:46)

Yeah. So 39 out of 50 states ran Covid measures for their elections. We had an illegitimate 2020 election. No accountability. But anyway, that's the boring nerd stuff again. Focus on high energy. I got a fun question for you, but January 6th. I can tell you everything about January 6th. I was the one that essentially orchestrated and choreographed what was supposed to take place.

Mike Kelly (17:14)

What?

Ivan Rakeland (17:14)

But instead Nancy Pelosi to decide to run her Fed selection. And I can go on to probably, I don't know, three to four hours of that.

Mike Kelly (17:21)

Pelosi's retiring next year, right?

Ivan Rakeland (17:23)

Yep.

Mike Kelly (17:24)

She's finally done.

Ivan Rakeland (17:25)

Yep.

Mike Kelly (17:25)

Making money at the stock market.

Ivan Rakeland (17:27)

Well, she's making bank either way, right? Corruption pays.

Mike Kelly (17:31)

One of the best stock traders of all time.

Ivan Rakeland (17:32)

One of the best corrupt actors. You know her dad was the mayor of Baltimore.

Mike Kelly (17:37)

Okay, I didn't know that.

Ivan Rakeland (17:38)

And if you look at that, you'll be like, oh, that's how she made her claim to fame and all the corruption in Baltimore. D'. Alessandro.

Mike Kelly (17:45)

A lot of corruption in Baltimore, huh?

Ivan Rakeland (17:47)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (17:48)

What went down over there?

Ivan Rakeland (17:49)

I don't want to go there.

Mike Kelly (17:50)

Oh, is that bad? Holy. I just had Sheriff Bianco on yesterday.

Ivan Rakeland (17:56)

Are you serious? Yeah, come in.

Mike Kelly (17:58)

That's your guy.

Ivan Rakeland (17:59)

He needs to be in the show.

Mike Kelly (18:00)

Oh, really? That's your guy? Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (18:02)

He's the guy you want.

Mike Kelly (18:06)

Good or bad.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (18:09)

Hey, what's up? I'm the guy that Chad Bianco falsely accused of being the third Trump assassin. So he get famous and get on camera. This is literal.

Mike Kelly (18:19)

No way.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (18:19)

Is his false accusation of me was, like, his unofficial run for governor.

Mike Kelly (18:23)

Are you serious?

Ivan Rakeland (18:24)

Yeah.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (18:24)

And he got everything he said. I showed up to the Trump rally. I made verbal statements that I'm here to kill president. Fill in the blank, right?

Mike Kelly (18:32)

Yeah.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (18:33)

Told that to the media. I had to go in hiding for months because I was being, like, persecuted. Holy shit, guys. Lies. And by the way, I'd love to come come to your show and tell you the whole story, but it's not just me, by the way.

Ivan Rakeland (18:42)

You gotta have him on for the full rebel.

Mike Kelly (18:44)

I gotta get his side of it.

Ivan Rakeland (18:45)

That Chad Bianco said, that guy's a lying scumbag piece of.

Mike Kelly (18:49)

So you think it was intentional?

Ivan Rakeland (18:50)

He's.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (18:51)

It was 100 intentional. I recorded the whole thing. He lied about everything. He made it sound like I'm this kind of Unabomber kind of guy in a hoopty. He's like, oh, his car was in disarray. Dude, I have a 2024 brand new car. And he made up the lie. He said, I made verbal statements, but I don't want to take from Ivan's time here. Would love to.

Mike Kelly (19:09)

I'll get you on. I'll get you on.

Ivan Rakeland (19:10)

I'll summarize it this way. Yeah.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (19:11)

Thank you.

Mike Kelly (19:12)

I did not know that. What are the odds of that?

Ivan Rakeland (19:13)

I don't give a fuck if you're a Democrat or Republican, okay? If you're conducting illegal activity and you're going after innocent people, like, I can take. I'm a big boy. I can take care of myself. As proven of being undefeated. But when you go after people that are not. Are in a position that you can totally just dominate over, that's called bullying. Like, I don't bully. I go after the fucking biggest corrupt scum in our government, whether it's a president, vice president, acting fake president, vice president, speaker of the House. I don't give a fuck. I'm coming for you when you start to go beyond your authorities. Chad Bianco is a fucking lying scum. You're going to get me pissed off that you had him on your show. I did not know this, and I'm going to say this. You can talk to whoever you want, but you also need to hear the story.

Mike Kelly (20:01)

Well, that's the big part of my show. I have on both sides. I did not know about this.

Ivan Rakeland (20:05)

I didn't know this was gonna go on that direct. You got me fucking fired up, Yo.

Mike Kelly (20:08)

My bad.

Ivan Rakeland (20:08)

That guy's the biggest fucking piece of shit running for governor and he's gonna hide behind. He's lied on so many occasions. False. He recorded the entire interaction with the. What's the name of the county? Riverside County. With the deputies. Yeah, it's all fucking recorded. Luckily, he recorded the interaction. They won't release the body cams because every single thing, if it's released, it shows that Chad Bianco lied to. He should be charged with 18 USC 1001. Lying to a fucking federal officer. The FBI agents, the Secret Service officers that Chad Bianco interacted with to lie about the fucking. That this guy was a third Trump assassin. He. He belongs behind bars, not running for California government.

Mike Kelly (20:53)

What's his angle though? Like, why would he lie about this?

Ivan Rakeland (20:58)

He was using that to launch his gubernatorial campaign. As the savior, I'm saving Donald Trump from a non threat.

Mike Kelly (21:07)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (21:08)

Wow, like, predicated on total.

Mike Kelly (21:12)

What are the odds he becomes governor, you think?

Ivan Rakeland (21:14)

I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that that doesn't happen. I would rather have somebody that's truthful, being a communist Democrat scum that I'm gonna address when they're in office than somebody that fucking shits on a patriot and lies their way into trying to get into office. I have no fucking patience for any of that.

Mike Kelly (21:33)

She'd pick Newsom over him.

Ivan Rakeland (21:35)

I would not pick either one of them.

Mike Kelly (21:37)

That's a tough one, huh? Newsom's got.

Ivan Rakeland (21:40)

Well, Newsom fucking slaughtered people through his policies. Just like Andrew Cuomo.

Mike Kelly (21:44)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (21:45)

Over in New York with the nursing home and the COVID policies and the homelessness.

Mike Kelly (21:49)

Yeah, it's been a disaster. Total $25 billion. I'm sure you track the flow of that money. It's a lot of.

Ivan Rakeland (21:56)

Blew a gasket when I heard you say that name.

Mike Kelly (21:58)

Oh, my bad, man. Well, hey, opening. Do your research.

Ivan Rakeland (22:02)

Okay. Thank you.

Mike Kelly (22:04)

He lives here, so we'll make it happen.

Ivan Rakeland (22:05)

Them. Miller.

Mike Kelly (22:06)

Yeah, I'll get his side, but I wish I knew about it before though, because I would have asked him on, on my interview with him.

Ivan Rakeland (22:11)

20. Yeah, within 24 hours, like it went viral because he lied about it and went and did a press conference. And then next, because he's been he campaigning, he's been like a precinct captain for Trump. Totally, totally supported the campaign and President Trump and matter of fact, he was at Mar a Lago, February. February.

Mike Kelly (22:29)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (22:30)

This year.

Mike Kelly (22:30)

That's crazy. But this guy chat to Trump assassin.

Ivan Rakeland (22:34)

No, like that. That was after.

Mike Kelly (22:36)

Oh, that was.

Ivan Rakeland (22:37)

But we cleared his name. But this. So his name's cleared. Them's names cleared. Except for in the mind of this guy, Chad Bianco.

Mike Kelly (22:45)

Oh, he still believes it.

Ivan Rakeland (22:46)

He's still carrying the bullshit narrator. Because he knows that if he acquiesces to the truth, everyone views him as a piece of shit. So he has to like act like, oh, in my mind, I really thought he was the third assassin.

Mike Kelly (23:00)

I'm blown away right now. He pulled up with a lot of security yesterday too. Holy shit.

Ivan Rakeland (23:06)

Total piece of shit. He's running for governor. Like, I don't know about you, like people say, take the lesser of the two evils. Everyone needs to be held account. And that's why I like the whole Thomas Jefferson quote. When the government or when the people fear the government, that's tyranny, right?

Mike Kelly (23:23)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (23:24)

When the government fears the people, that's freedom. Well, I operate. I don't care if you're a Republican administration, Democrat administration. I want you to fear me because that means I have freedom because I'm a private citizen and I'm innocent until you prove my guilt. And on the flip side of that, if you're a governmental actor, you're fucking guilty until you prove beyond any shadow of my doubt, your innocence.

Mike Kelly (23:46)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (23:46)

So that means that I don't care if you're whatever administration. There are very few people that have proven their innocence in this administration. Would you say it's a minority?

Mike Kelly (23:57)

Would you say it's all administrations throughout history? Or would you say it's more recent times after.

Ivan Rakeland (24:01)

After looking at researching the last years, I would, I don't, I can't say that I haven't gone into as much detail as before and granted we didn't have as much insight into governments because of. I mean, everyone's got one of these. Everyone's got like the ability to interact and communicate. I would probably say that this level of corruption has probably been in existence like always.

Mike Kelly (24:23)

So it's just a money thing, right?

Ivan Rakeland (24:24)

Yeah, it's just that There are very few. Well, I shouldn't say few. There are more and more of us that can call it out at scale.

Mike Kelly (24:32)

Right? Because of social media.

Ivan Rakeland (24:33)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (24:34)

Wow, that is so interesting.

Ivan Rakeland (24:36)

And that's why I'm censored. Because, I mean, I can call you. Like I said, I think before we went on, I can call you out about 1500 people by name, date, place, transgression, and relationships. You just drop the name. And I can be like, how much of that happened? And like, when you said Chad, Bianca, I was like, man, yeah.

Mike Kelly (24:55)

I did not expect you to know him, to be honest. That's crazy. Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (24:59)

I do a lot of research.

Mike Kelly (25:00)

So you got dirt on everyone.

Ivan Rakeland (25:02)

I do.

Mike Kelly (25:03)

Holy.

Ivan Rakeland (25:04)

Maybe that's why they didn't arrest me.

Mike Kelly (25:08)

How many of those names have you exposed?

Ivan Rakeland (25:09)

Bring it on.

Mike Kelly (25:10)

1500. That's a lot of people.

Ivan Rakeland (25:12)

No, I mean, you got to go one by one, because, like, I could do. I can do one podcast on one person, then, like, ruin them. Damn. Because they deserve to be ruined. And hopefully it's going to be Chad Bianco in this interview.

Mike Kelly (25:22)

Holy.

Ivan Rakeland (25:22)

Since you raised his name.

Mike Kelly (25:24)

So he's been a cop for 32 years. He said running for governor. He said he's leading the polls. I didn't verify that, but he thinks he's gonna win. He thinks he's gonna win governor in June.

Ivan Rakeland (25:36)

He can think that all he wants. We gave him an opportunity to apologize and retract it, and he refused. He doubled down. So now it's.

Mike Kelly (25:44)

What if I set up a. You think he talked to him at all or. No. Your body, no.

Ivan Rakeland (25:49)

So if I set up a little Bianco, like, it's. It's on Bianco to apologize fucking profusely and come correct. And if he does that, then we. We prosecute him for lying to the FBI and Secret Service. That's how important. That's how damning his behavior was.

Mike Kelly (26:09)

Damn. So you want to go the legal route with him?

Ivan Rakeland (26:12)

He's being sued by.

Mike Kelly (26:14)

He's being sued by him.

Ivan Rakeland (26:15)

Vem is suing bianca for like, 20 or $50 million. Yeah. So his police department contacted Las Vegas PD Anti Terrorism Unit to go and raid his parents. Like, his elderly parents home.

Mike Kelly (26:29)

Holy shit. I didn't know that.

Ivan Rakeland (26:31)

This ain't fucking playtime. This is. You just fucking like Chad Bianco fucking flexed.

Mike Kelly (26:37)

Damn.

Ivan Rakeland (26:37)

And I. The only solution to this one thing is he shouldn't be running for governor. The second thing is this motherfucker deserves jail time for what he did. Unfortunately, I don't almost ruin him and his parents.

Mike Kelly (26:53)

Yeah. I just think when you're a sheriff, the odds of that are not high. Right. You know, if we're being realistic. What do you think?

Ivan Rakeland (26:59)

I don't know. To me, his. He's tainted because of what he did. It's not because, like, I know them. I knew him. We gave him apple opportunity to come correct. The evidence is there. And when you start to look at his sheriff's department corruption after corruption, them's got have him on your show to outline all the details. He's got whistleblowers from within his sheriff's department that have so much fucking dirt on this sheriff. He's the sheriff that kneeled to blm. No, there's video of him kneeling before blm.

Mike Kelly (27:30)

All right, to be fair. Was it early on?

Ivan Rakeland (27:33)

To be fair, he was kneeling for fucking blm. Okay.

Mike Kelly (27:36)

All right, I'll be honest.

Ivan Rakeland (27:38)

Biden laptops matter is the only BLM that I support.

Mike Kelly (27:41)

Okay, that's funny. I. I fell for the BLM thing at first. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I donated, but everybody obviously was a scam. You know, I'm glad you came to guys mansion.

Ivan Rakeland (27:52)

I do have to call you out on something, though. Call me out and it's gonna be pretty harsh.

Mike Kelly (27:56)

What is it?

Ivan Rakeland (27:58)

As I was doing some research on you.

Mike Kelly (28:00)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (28:01)

What do you think I'm gonna call you out on based on what I just heard?

Mike Kelly (28:03)

$7,000. Israel.

Ivan Rakeland (28:06)

Talk to me.

Mike Kelly (28:07)

I have on a lot of pro Israel guests.

Ivan Rakeland (28:10)

No, no, that's not your biggest transgression. Think 2020, Covid.

Mike Kelly (28:18)

What?

Ivan Rakeland (28:19)

Face toilets.

Mike Kelly (28:21)

Face toilets? Selling master masks. Yeah, I sold masks. Yeah, I. I did it to make money. Okay. I. I mean, I thought they helped at first, but obviously it's bullshit now. Okay, yeah, yeah, but I. I was in my apartment trying to do mass.

Ivan Rakeland (28:38)

Deals, just hustling because you believe the government, and then I believe them at some point.

Mike Kelly (28:43)

I never got the Jabowski.

Ivan Rakeland (28:45)

Nice.

Mike Kelly (28:46)

So give me that. All right, give me that. I was getting a lot of pressure on that, you know, from my family, from my friends. I grew up in liberal Jersey, but I was wise enough.

Ivan Rakeland (28:54)

Good recovery.

Mike Kelly (28:55)

Yeah, Recovery.

Ivan Rakeland (28:56)

Okay, we're back on track.

Mike Kelly (28:57)

Yeah, we're chilling.

Ivan Rakeland (28:58)

We're chilling. Now that I'm amped up. Chad Bianco.

Mike Kelly (29:02)

Damn, I didn't know he was on your shit list. Like, is he, like, top five on your list?

Ivan Rakeland (29:06)

Well, he's a state actor. He's definitely on vems number one because of what he did to him, but, yeah, luckily, we had Alex Jones. And I think Kirk and some other. Other people immediately jumped on it and believed the sheriff about it.

Mike Kelly (29:21)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (29:21)

And then when I was talking to. Talked to them and other people, I was like, hey, mate, like, it's. He said. He said, you got any evidence to back you up, ma'? Am? He's like, yeah, I fucking recorded the whole interaction.

Mike Kelly (29:33)

Thank God he did.

Ivan Rakeland (29:34)

But I'm not gonna tell you that I have the recording and where it is until I get my car back. Because his car was impounded. Once he got his car impounded, the little recording device, he was able to pull it off.

Mike Kelly (29:45)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (29:45)

And so once he provided me with that, like, okay, I can fucking go all in swinging, big dicking about the truth. And Alex Jones initially ran with that van, was the third assassin. And then he got hit up by, like, because people know him, he goes to events Turning point. Yeah. And everybody, like, recognized, like, what van? What the. And on Infowars, Alex Jones, like, within 24 hours, retracted, said, no, no, this.

Mike Kelly (30:11)

Is all shout out to Alex for doing that.

Ivan Rakeland (30:12)

And so, yeah. And then everybody started kind of like, back off.

Mike Kelly (30:15)

Charlie changed too.

Ivan Rakeland (30:17)

I think they back walked it. Not as aggressively as Alex. Alex, like, aggressively immediately back walked. Not backwater, like, corrected it with a bunch of people hit him up. And then. So he got kind of his name intact within our ecosystem and within the court, within the independent court of public opinion. But the mainstream media was still running with the Chad Bianco narrative, which fucking dam. I mean, that damages him. It causes a raid on his house here in Vegas or where his parents were at. And so they had a warrant. He's got a video of that, too.

Mike Kelly (30:51)

It's crazy how they could just raid your house.

Ivan Rakeland (30:53)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (30:53)

When a police calls another police, they could raid your house.

Ivan Rakeland (30:56)

Yeah. They said, oh, he's a threat. He's a third assassin. He's just whatever. Bullshit. Right.

Mike Kelly (30:59)

So no evidence.

Ivan Rakeland (31:00)

So the only way we hold them to account is like, we have to publicly destroy him.

Mike Kelly (31:05)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (31:05)

Because, I mean, who's gonna arrest a sheriff?

Mike Kelly (31:07)

That's wrong.

Ivan Rakeland (31:08)

California. So we have to publicly, like, politically, he has to be destroyed.

Mike Kelly (31:12)

Wow. That is crazy. Okay, so he's on your list along with 1499 people.

Ivan Rakeland (31:18)

So he's not even on my list. And that's how I feel about him.

Mike Kelly (31:22)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (31:23)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (31:23)

So let's. Let's work our way up here. Let's work our way to the mid tier and then the top final boss.

Ivan Rakeland (31:32)

The final boss.

Mike Kelly (31:34)

Well, the final boss is going to take a lot of A lot of resource to take out. Right.

Ivan Rakeland (31:38)

The final boss is your girl, Nancy Pelosi.

Mike Kelly (31:41)

She thinks she's the final boss.

Ivan Rakeland (31:42)

Let me frame it this way. Who do you think the most powerful person on the planet is?

Mike Kelly (31:47)

Oh, that's a good question.

Ivan Rakeland (31:49)

And why? And then I'll explain.

Mike Kelly (31:52)

Putin.

Ivan Rakeland (31:53)

Okay. Why?

Mike Kelly (31:54)

Money. How much allegedly is the most in.

Ivan Rakeland (31:56)

The world, which is.

Mike Kelly (31:58)

I don't know the exact number.

Ivan Rakeland (32:00)

So back 10, 15 years ago is about 250 billion.

Mike Kelly (32:05)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (32:06)

Okay. Let's just say he's worth a trillion. Or is it more?

Mike Kelly (32:10)

Could be more. Could be around there.

Ivan Rakeland (32:11)

Give me a ballpark.

Mike Kelly (32:12)

High level, I would say at least a trillion. Right.

Ivan Rakeland (32:14)

Okay, let's give him 2 trillion.

Mike Kelly (32:16)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (32:16)

5. 5 trillion. Okay. Which person on the planet has the ability to influence and control $7 trillion annually into the global economy?

Mike Kelly (32:34)

So if Putin doesn't have seven, is that what you're saying? Basically, he doesn't have that influence. So it's someone that's not known then. Are we talking deep state now?

Ivan Rakeland (32:43)

You know who? When I answer the question, you'll be like, oh, it makes sense. We'll give you an opportunity.

Mike Kelly (32:49)

Trillion annually.

Ivan Rakeland (32:50)

Who allocates of the seven and a half, whatever, 8 billion people on the planet, does he?

Mike Kelly (32:58)

I don't know.

Ivan Rakeland (32:59)

No.

Mike Kelly (33:00)

7 trillion.

Ivan Rakeland (33:02)

So when you look at the American Constitution, who decides the federal budget, where does it start? With the House of Representatives.

Mike Kelly (33:11)

Right.

Ivan Rakeland (33:12)

Who runs the in the House of Representatives? The speaker of the House. Right.

Mike Kelly (33:17)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (33:18)

So when the speaker of the House controls the $7 trillion annual budget now into the global economy, and I want to do favors and do legal bribes to whoever I want for anything that I want. The speaker of the House is the most fucking powerful person on the planet.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (33:36)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (33:37)

Does that make sense now?

Mike Kelly (33:38)

Yeah. Broke it down.

Ivan Rakeland (33:39)

Well, so of the last 10, 15 years, who has held that position? Pelosi more than anyone else? Nancy Pelosi.

Mike Kelly (33:48)

Wow. Nancy Pelosi, huh? She's the final boss.

Ivan Rakeland (33:53)

The final Boss. Remember in 2020, the COVID relief package.

Mike Kelly (33:58)

Yeah, 1200 bucks or whatever.

Ivan Rakeland (34:00)

No, the COVID relief package to the tunes of trillions of dollars. The government shut down the country.

Mike Kelly (34:07)

Oh, the PPP loans.

Ivan Rakeland (34:09)

Yeah, no, hold up. So the. That's part of it. So the White House coronavirus task force was created. Mike Pence was the. The guy. Jared Kushner was the shadow governor as they recommended to shut things down. The economy was tanking because everything shut down by forced government coercion. Unlawful. Okay. And Nancy Pelosi was like, all right, cool. We're going to use this as our mechanism to steal the 2020 election. But we have to bribe people into doing that. How do we bribe people into doing it? We pass a several trillion dollar Covid relief package to those that are going to participate in the electoral heist. That's what happened in 2020. And the only member of Congress that said we need to vote not by proxy but by in person was your boy Thomas Massie. The only one that properly maneuvered through parliamentary procedure. So what I'm getting at is the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, not only did she conduct the biggest transfer of wealth ever in humanity during that relief package, a lot of that has stuck. The annual budget and all that bullshit, the PPE loans. Right. That's been ignored.

Mike Kelly (35:26)

A lot of fraud there.

Ivan Rakeland (35:27)

A lot of fraud. The Ukraine money laundering scheme, the Israel money laundering scheme. I mean a lot of this is. I get it, it's both parties. But Nancy Pelosi had a significant outsized role because she's been speaker of the House twice.

Mike Kelly (35:42)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (35:42)

During that period of time, for four.

Mike Kelly (35:44)

Years, I did not know she had power like this.

Ivan Rakeland (35:46)

She was speaker of the House when she ran the FedSurrection, what people call the January 6th event. She was the speaker of the House. How could she do it? Because when you conduct the joint session in Congress to certify a President that is held inside of the House of House of Representatives chambers, the senior law enforcement authority within the House of Representatives is the Sergeant at Arms who reports to the speaker of the House. That swath of territory in the country is fully controlled by the speaker of the House at her direction at that time. So she wants to run a parliamentary coup like what she did, she just does it and there's no recourse other than political removal.

Mike Kelly (36:28)

And you actually think it's her, not people around her because she's getting old now. You think she's making these big brain plays?

Ivan Rakeland (36:33)

Well, it's her, her daughter Alexandra Pelosi. Her son in law Michael Voss. Her chief of staff Terry McCullough. Her senior advisor Jamie Fleet, just to name a few.

Mike Kelly (36:42)

It's got to be a team, right?

Ivan Rakeland (36:44)

Remember I said 1500, right? You said who's the boss? Obviously the boss is going to have a few.

Mike Kelly (36:49)

Yeah, she's the face of it though. Yeah, for sure.

Ivan Rakeland (36:51)

And then you have other members of Congress to help facilitate that. Jamie Raskin, Adam Schiff, Zoe Lofgren, our top three. Wow.

Mike Kelly (36:58)

So whoever comes in next is going to be very important for that roll then.

Ivan Rakeland (37:02)

So now you. But the thing is, the reason why she was able to have influence and control over her conference, meaning the Democrat Party, that put her in as speaker of the House, is because her ability to fundraise. And where does she get her fundraising dollars from? Doesn't she represent San Francisco, Silicon Valley, the big tech players, which you've spent.

Mike Kelly (37:19)

A lot of time in. So you know the ins and outs of that world.

Ivan Rakeland (37:22)

So are we gonna talk about that?

Mike Kelly (37:24)

Yeah. I did some good pivot, baby. Yes, sir.

Ivan Rakeland (37:26)

All right, you're gonna make me happy now. You can rip your face off for talking about Chad Bianca. This had. Chad. Chad. Bianca on While you're in the room. I don't know, man.

Mike Kelly (37:38)

My bad. I'll own up to that. I'll own up to it. Yeah, let's dive into business.

Ivan Rakeland (37:44)

Flip the table before I get punched in the face.

Mike Kelly (37:49)

All right, so you were a tech scout in Silicon Valley, right?

Ivan Rakeland (37:53)

Yeah. So I spent 25 years in the US military. I was a Green Beret intel officer this and that. Had a good rodeo, had a good run, Pretty eclectic background. And my last assignment in the reserves was to be a technology scout for what's called Army Futures Command as a reservist. And the Unit was the 75th Innovation Command. Basically we would have a presence in about almost two dozen cities throughout the country where we would interact, engage with local industry and tech to see if they wanted to sell their product or service into the army procurement cycle in order to be able to improve our ability to counter threats. Right. Foreign threats in support of the US Constitution's effort to defend from enemies form China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, Russia and then some of the, you know, non state actors, etc. So then I was on the like the unit was just created in 2020. 2020, I think.

Mike Kelly (39:12)

Oh, pretty recently.

Ivan Rakeland (39:13)

And I started right when it like I was one of the founding members on the Silicon Valley team and Greater Bay Area. And so I was part of like what we call west west group. And they're like my portfolio was to focus. There was different geographic area like I said, and then also portfolio of topical industry areas. So I focused on AI gaming and mixed reality to see who was. Who were the players that were up and coming in the early startup and then a little later than early startup because you want some smart money behind it to be able to then introduce an already minimally viable MVP past an MVP that could potentially be utilized for army and then broader Department of Defense reasons. Right. And capabilities. So I focused more on engaging with companies going through like TechCrunch. You've heard of these, right? TechCrunch, Disrupt 500 Startups and then Y Combinator.

Mike Kelly (40:15)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (40:15)

So you have your. Every six months you have a pitch day, right? From 500.

Mike Kelly (40:19)

Yep.

Ivan Rakeland (40:19)

I mean, I don't do these. I've normally done podcasts that are political.

Mike Kelly (40:24)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (40:24)

So I can't go into depth with any. And so I'm happy. I can actually.

Mike Kelly (40:28)

Yeah, I can understand.

Ivan Rakeland (40:29)

Talk about these things. So Y Combinator, right. Is arguably the, the most capable and smart money backed accelerator on the planet.

Mike Kelly (40:41)

A lot of big companies come out of there.

Ivan Rakeland (40:42)

Yeah. So you have, you know, every six months you got demo day, pitch day, and then you have angel investors. Some, you know, some of the VCs will come in there, but usually it's early stage, so you don't have the VCs coming in. But. And then also I was interacting before that. One of the reasons why I think they, they brought me in as kind of this liaison is I did a little bit of angel investing back in the day and I did a little. Just small, small stuff. Nothing I would like. Burns. No, nothing. But it's like you're learning, right? You're learning the ecosystem, you're creating a network. I went to a couple events like, you know, you heard of Jason Calacanis, right? J. Cal. And I remember in 2015, I think it was 20, 2015, I went to one of his events because he, he hosted, he probably still does host a lot of events. This was before I really got political. I was kind of more involved in tech startups, business, entrepreneurship, just to see where I could go, whether it's podcast this and that. And so I bumped into him and I went to the event and towards the end of the event, it was like on AI and, and some. And what is it? Not handhelds, but wearables.

Mike Kelly (41:51)

Like a wearable 2015 they were talking about.

Ivan Rakeland (41:53)

Yeah, this was like early stuff.

Mike Kelly (41:54)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (41:55)

And so I'm like, hey man. You know, because I was following his podcast. You know, he's got one of the best podcasts. Yeah.

Mike Kelly (42:01)

All in show is a good show.

Ivan Rakeland (42:02)

All in. And so I approached him at the end of the conference. I said, hey Jason, I just want to sell you. Thanks. I was, I think I was on, I was on active duty at the time and I was, I just went there for like a weekend or I took a couple days off during the week.

Mike Kelly (42:18)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (42:19)

Because I was based out of the Northern Virginia area. And I said, thanks man. Anytime you want to come to D.C. and like visit or tour the Pentagon. Because I think, yeah, I was like, that's basically the best I can offer you because I'm not, like, wealthy or anything. You got everything you need because you're like, you know, you're wealthy entrepreneurs. And I was like, that's. That's like, the best thing I can offer you as, like, my show of gratitude for, you know, everything you're doing for, like, smaller startups and things like that. And when I said that, he's like, what, you're a veteran? This and that, he got really interested. Yeah, I'm Green Beret. This and that. And went to my background. He's like, oh, crap, you need to come to my, like, VIP dinner. Angel. Angel VIP thing where all, like, all the founders dinner. I was like, wow, you don't need to do that. And he's like. He invited me, gave me, like, VIP access for the following day. So like, he's like, you want to come in and stay in town? So I spent a couple days, you know, at his event and. And at the dinner and get to hang, got to hung out, hang out with him. And then later, I think it was that night I went to. You heard of the Battery?

Mike Kelly (43:25)

Is that a comedy club?

Ivan Rakeland (43:26)

The Battery is kind of like the tech founder, wealthy club in San Francisco. And so, you know, a couple people that I had interacted with are members there. And I went out there, and I was like, oh. And I saw Jason there. He was hanging out with Elon.

Mike Kelly (43:41)

No way. That's legendary.

Ivan Rakeland (43:43)

It's, like, crazy. And so I didn't get a chance to talk to Elon at all, but that was probably the closest I've been to him. And I said, I was like, hey, Jason, what's going on? I was like, oh, you're with Elon.

Mike Kelly (43:56)

What's up, Elon?

Ivan Rakeland (43:57)

Where are you guys going? They're like, whatever, top floor. I was like, but I was already with a couple of other friends. We were leaving, so I didn't want to.

Mike Kelly (44:04)

Oh, yeah, because they just had the PayPal exit around then. Right? That was like, right before.

Ivan Rakeland (44:09)

No, no PayPal or.

Mike Kelly (44:11)

That was a while ago.

Ivan Rakeland (44:12)

No, he was. I think he was hitting it gold with Uber. Like, that's his biggest right.

Mike Kelly (44:17)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (44:18)

For Jason, as far, like, I haven't tracked this stuff the last few years, but, you know, I follow him on Twitter, this and that. But when I went political, obviously he's. He's in liberal San Francisco.

Mike Kelly (44:28)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (44:29)

Even though he's a businessman, entrepreneur, he's got work ethic. So I guess his libertarian streak probably went more left because of the, like, what you said. Like, you bought into the hype, the bullshit, the manipulated bullshit that they were presenting us. And so he probably saw my public Personas, I'm calling it all out, and he thinks I'm. I'm guessing he's thinking I'm like, conspiracy just nut job, right? Meanwhile, like, everything I said is fully backed by evidence and it's truthful, but you can't get to my evidence if you keep blocking and censoring it. And so there was a divergence where we didn't really communicate that really at all. I did go to like an event or two where we crossed paths and we were very friendly. He's always been good to me. I always thank him for everything's done. But I would also call him out like, hey, man, you're back in the wrong horse. Because you're like, communism doesn't work when you're trying to build businesses, when you try to build, you know, all these startups. So 2020 was it 2024 rolls around, you can see the pivot. Once, once Elon moves, you gotta remember, like, little insider that he shared with me is that Jason Calacanis? For you to know how close he is with Elon. Elon's first Tesla Model S, like, the first VIN number is owned by Jason Cal. So that should tell you a lot about, like, how far back they go. Right? And so I didn't know, like, he told me that that's cool. And so once Elon essentially backed Trump after the assassin failed assassination attempt, you can start to see all of Silicon Valley start to pivot and say, you know what? Yeah, we're going to get behind Trump. And so I have these touch points with Silicon Valley with like really big influential figures, but just on a. Not on a business level, just like, I wouldn't say like close friends, but as you know, more than acquaintances. And so Fast forward to 2025 in January this year during the inauguration, I'm at an Uber X party that I'm invited to and then I see Jason. I was like, hey, what's up, Ivan? Blah, blah, blah. Let me introduce you to the people. So, like, I guess I made enough of an impression throughout the different times we interacted. And he's. Because I've, you know, I usually shit on people that are conducting treason and calling them out. And while the spectators out there don't like it because that's their dog in the fight, I think that Jason saw that I never really attacked Him, I was just like, hey, man, you're wrong, and here's why.

Mike Kelly (47:05)

Yeah, you were respectful, but I was.

Ivan Rakeland (47:07)

Respectful about it, because he was. You know, when you're. When you're nice to me, I'm gonna go all out to basically outdo you with what I can to be nice back. But if you with me, I'm gonna go scorched earth the other way as well.

Mike Kelly (47:22)

Yeah, I wouldn't want to be your enemy.

Ivan Rakeland (47:24)

So. So what I'm getting at with this, I'm glad you're letting me, kind of giving me the bandwidth to talk about this, is that that was the reason. That, and coupled with, you know, interacting with Silicon Valley at somewhat deeper level than most people in the army and Army Reserves do, led me into that position to be a tech scout, because I kept a good relationship with people, even though politically we're completely not, like, we're not in line. Until you finally see the evidence that I see, then you're like, okay, it makes sense. And so I'm glad he had that growing phase, because I can't blame him, because he's building businesses, he's investing in business, not worried about politics, just like Elon. Elon was like a baby neophyte, clueless on politics, and they ran circles around him and ran him out. But he's learned through that process, and hopefully he'll re engage. But yeah, since you're focused on business and entrepreneurship, and that's a cool story. What's that?

Mike Kelly (48:23)

That's a cool story. Hearing about the heyday of Silicon Valley now, it's not the same, though.

Ivan Rakeland (48:27)

So even back, I got even more like, you're only 28, so let me even go farther back. Okay, so we're talking 20. Wait, no, 2015. So that would have been about.

Mike Kelly (48:36)

Same time I was in high school.

Ivan Rakeland (48:37)

So in 20.

Mike Kelly (48:38)

20.

Ivan Rakeland (48:39)

12.

Mike Kelly (48:40)

Freshman year, high school for me.

Ivan Rakeland (48:41)

So in 2012, I was an analyst, a counterintelligence analyst at the Defense Intelligence Agency. Okay. The director at the time was a newly minted Director, but his name was General Flynn. Heard of that name, Mike? Yeah, yeah.

Mike Kelly (48:59)

He's coming on the show. Don't tell me he's compromised. We'll talk later about it.

Ivan Rakeland (49:03)

No, that is gonna be your best guest.

Mike Kelly (49:05)

Okay, good, good.

Ivan Rakeland (49:05)

You're good.

Mike Kelly (49:06)

I got worried there. No, you're up. Another name.

Ivan Rakeland (49:10)

I totally vouch for that guy. Freaking awesome. Okay. That's one guy that I'll. I'll fight to the death for. Okay. So you just recovered? Yes, sir.

Mike Kelly (49:21)

Made up for it. Did he Recover made up for it.

Ivan Rakeland (49:27)

And he's not my handler. So 2012, he's the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. And he comes in and one of the things that, the new things that he implements, he's got what's called an innovation series. So he brings in key leaders from industry that are disrupting in a very positive way technologically or whatever, different industries. And guess who he invites?

Mike Kelly (49:54)

Elon.

Ivan Rakeland (49:55)

Elon's last boss, which would have been Jason. No, Elon's last boss.

Mike Kelly (50:04)

I don't even know.

Ivan Rakeland (50:06)

Yeah, this goes way back.

Mike Kelly (50:08)

What the fuck? Who did Elon work?

Ivan Rakeland (50:09)

Where did Elon work? Where he had a boss the last time?

Mike Kelly (50:13)

Was it PayPal or before though?

Ivan Rakeland (50:14)

PayPal.

Mike Kelly (50:15)

Okay. Who is his boss at PayPal?

Ivan Rakeland (50:18)

Peter Thiel.

Mike Kelly (50:19)

Oh, shit, we're diving into teal now, huh? I wasn't gonna bring it up unless you did. Cause there's a lot of talk about teal right now.

Ivan Rakeland (50:27)

I know. So like I'm. I go wave. I'm pretty like OG on a lot of this stuff, right? Because I'm, I'm 49, so I've dabbled, I've had the luxury to dabble in different spaces because when I'm in the reserves, right, it's only part time thing in the military, so I'm doing all these other endeavors, right? And so 2012, that's when I was a federal civilian employee, intel analyst. And I'm listening in, the topic of the discussion was called secrecy and how things are going to be less and less secret, right? Because the Internet. So this was 20. Yeah, 2012. Social media is not that. Just getting kind of started, right? Twitter is kicking off, starting to pick up a little bit here and there. And I remember at the end he gives his speech and at the end he's like, hey, does anybody have any questions? And fricking no one's got a question. I'm like, I do, I got tons of questions. So I asked him because I followed his career. I looked at different. Just like you in high school. You're probably looking at this stuff considering how successful you are now.

Mike Kelly (51:32)

I was always into entrepreneurs. Yeah. Gary Vee, Shark Tank, all that stuff.

Ivan Rakeland (51:35)

Yeah. So we're gonna get to Gary Vee. That's another good story, dude. So in 1999 was when PayPal was kicking, right? 1999, 2000. And I think it was in 2000 that he, he left maybe Peter Till. So anyway, going Back to like 1999 time frame, which is probably before you were born.

Mike Kelly (51:55)

I was born in 97 so basically I don't remember shit.

Ivan Rakeland (51:59)

So I'm, I'm following his career, not just like, as a spectator. Oh, wow. Business, PayPal use. I mean, I'm using all the different products. I'm always in gadgets, etc. And so I'm thinking, man, yeah, this, I know this guy's kind of career arc of history. And you know Marc Andreessen, you know Mark Andreessen?

Mike Kelly (52:20)

I know him, yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (52:21)

Yeah. So like in the mid-90s, I'm gonna go even farther back. Before you were born, Marc Andreessen's uncle was my accounting professor at the University of Northern Iowa.

Mike Kelly (52:35)

Wow, okay. What are the odds of that? So that's crazy.

Ivan Rakeland (52:38)

And he would talk about like, yeah, my nephew Mark, he's doing some bullshit thing like he's building some sort of browser or whatever. Mosaic, I think it's called back then. It was before Netscape, when he was at Urbana Champaign. Right. And so what I'm getting at here is like I'm bouncing around. But my point is I've been following tech pretty much more closely, I think, than most people that you would expect, whether it's military, government, et cetera. So I've had, if you will, tentacles and reach in different sectors, and I know the ecosystem fairly well, going back decades in Silicon Valley to where it gets into big tech world and censorship, and also on the east coast, considering I've been in the special ops and in the intelligence community. So I'm one of the few players that are out there that are also vocal, that know the people, players down to the individual level of the. The key institutions that are driving the American conversation, whether it's from the deep state side, as an insider to kind of what we're seeing.

Mike Kelly (53:38)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (53:39)

On. On this other side, maybe not like deep deep, but I know enough to. That I have enough insiders to be able to give a very accurate assessment. And what should happen to fix the shit show that we saw like the last five years.

Mike Kelly (53:54)

That's impressive.

Ivan Rakeland (53:55)

So Peter Thiel, touch points, Jason Calacanis, and then my Gary Vee story. Oh, before I go to Gary Vee, I actually ended up deciding to run for U.S. senate in 2018 in Virginia.

Mike Kelly (54:10)

Oh.

Ivan Rakeland (54:11)

And the very first. I mean, you gotta have money to go run for Senate, right?

Mike Kelly (54:15)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (54:16)

Or any political office. So I go down the list on Forbes, right? Forbes list of billionaires, and I'm looking at the list, I'm thinking, who is most closely aligned to. With me ideologically, it's not going to be 100% but who's the one most closely aligned with that potentially I can work with in order to be successful? Like, so that there's a little roi, obviously on. On the investor billionaire side, but aligns with my values at least on some of the key things that I'm running on.

Mike Kelly (54:52)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (54:53)

Like way before Andrew yang. Yang was 2020. In 2018, I was like talking about AI. Right. I kind of know that I've been in the system, AI and other issues. So we'll just talk about the AI part because we need to regulate it. There needs to be some knowledge. And the economy has to change in order to be able to go from agrarian industrial in Virginia to be essentially competitive globally, obviously, economically. And so when I'm going down the list, I'm thinking, all right, Peter Thiel. So going back from the time in 2012 when we were interacting, I got his contact information and reached out to him and said, hey, I want to basically have a meeting with you to present to you why you should invest in my Senate run. So I went up to his place in New York. Supposed to be like a 30 minute meeting. I think we went like two hours or something.

Mike Kelly (55:52)

Wow. So it went well.

Ivan Rakeland (55:53)

And at the end of it, I'm like, yeah, you gonna support me? He's like, yeah, easy. So he only donated to three campaigns that election cycle. Josh Hawley, heard of him. Senator from Missouri.

Mike Kelly (56:09)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (56:11)

He was the guy that objected to the Pennsylvania electors on the senate side on January 6th of 2021. And he's going after big Tech.

Mike Kelly (56:19)

Good for him.

Ivan Rakeland (56:19)

The second guy was Kevin McCarthy. He was the leader of the Republican Party. So he's California based. And I'm not a fan. And I was. I had a very big role with Matt Gaetz and removing him as speaker of the House and pushing him out of Congress. You're welcome. I'll give props to Matt Gaetz, though. So he's. And then me was the third one. Okay. And so the problem with that, though was the Republican Party blocked me from getting. The Virginia Republican Party blocked me from getting on the ballot.

Mike Kelly (56:50)

Whoa.

Ivan Rakeland (56:51)

I tried to suit him, and the judge basically said, hey, if you would have sued two days ago, you would have gotten on the ballot, but you didn't sue in time. And I said I couldn't sue earlier because the Republican Party didn't give me the evidence of the reasoning behind why they blocked me, which was they said I didn't have enough signatures to get on the ballot. After we did an audit, looking at their information, they used an old database and my campaign was using the current database, which gave us sufficient numbers to be on the ballot. So anyway, I didn't get an opportunity to run for him to essentially back me and. And go all in, because first phase is get on the ballot. Second phase is the primary. And I think I would have had the endorsement of POTUS based on the network that I knew at the time. And then that would have put me in the general election to go against this guy that says. He claims he speaks Spanish. I speak a few languages. Right.

Mike Kelly (57:45)

Speak Mandarin.

Ivan Rakeland (57:46)

Nah, just a little bit. And so that would have gone in that direction. But needless to say, nowadays people are like, going after Peter Thiel and they're going to say, oh, Ivan knows Peter Thiel. And that's by extension everything Peter Thiel does. Ivan knows about and is whatever. Whatever negativity that you're going to attribute to him. But keep in mind that Peter Thiel was, at the time that I was interacting with him, he was the tech advisor for President Trump. He was Trump's tech advisor. Like, now you could claim it's Elon, but back then it was Peter Thiel. So I think that that was a safe bet to remember. Peter Thiel was the only one from Silicon Valley, the only one from Silicon Valley to stray from Silicon Valley, the radical, you know, leftist play and deviate. And he was at the RNC convention.

Mike Kelly (58:39)

That's true.

Ivan Rakeland (58:40)

In 2016.

Mike Kelly (58:41)

Yeah, he was the first one.

Ivan Rakeland (58:42)

So I get it. I mean, be critical of everybody. Be critical of me. Like, I'm all for that. Right. You and your audience can. Can shit on me and call me as many names as possible. I don't give a flying fuck. Right. And if you haven't realized it yet, yeah, my fake.

Mike Kelly (58:58)

You have to be numb in the social media space to hate and criticize.

Ivan Rakeland (59:01)

Like, I revel. I actually revel in it.

Mike Kelly (59:02)

I love it when people type of guy to reply to the comments.

Ivan Rakeland (59:05)

Yeah, bring it on, bro. It's like, that's all you got.

Mike Kelly (59:08)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (59:08)

It's like, whatever. So. But the truth is the truth, right? Once you're done calling me names, and then you can get beyond the low IQ interaction into okay, it feels good to call me names. I do that sometimes, too. But then after that, you gotta back up why you're calling me that and bring receipts on why that is.

Mike Kelly (59:24)

Socks over feelings.

Ivan Rakeland (59:25)

Yeah. And I'm gonna. I'll crush pretty much anybody with receipts.

Mike Kelly (59:28)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (59:28)

That's why a lot of people, like, run for me and they just don't want to Interact. Because it's just.

Mike Kelly (59:32)

Because.

Ivan Rakeland (59:32)

Becomes too overwhelming. But having said that, just to re. Just to kind of close off on Peter Thiel. Yeah. I mean, he's been good. Like, every interaction that I've had with him has been good. I get it. He. He's a billionaire that invests in a lot of things. He's part of the whole Bilderberg thing. That raises eyebrows for me as well. He is involved in. He probably goes to Davos and all this. He has a seat at the table. That raises an eyebrow for me as well. But, like, keep an eye on everybody. Right. And if he's doing something that's not like the whole AI stuff. Right.

Mike Kelly (60:14)

The biggest hate I see about him is the AI and the Palantir stuff.

Ivan Rakeland (60:17)

Yeah. So let's talk about Palantir. So Palantir. And I'm not defending, like, I'm not defending this. I'm just telling you what my perspective is as a. I wouldn't call myself an insider, but just having seen it over the course of. With a couple of stories to back it up over the last, what, 20 years?

Mike Kelly (60:30)

Right.

Ivan Rakeland (60:32)

Don't you want. If our intelligence community, and I thought the way it was set up was legit, is to go out, track, target, locate, and action our foreign enemies, don't you want our intelligence community to have a robust capability to do that?

Mike Kelly (60:50)

I would say yes.

Ivan Rakeland (60:52)

I would say yes. But when that same capability is used to come in and come after me, a US citizen that's lawfully operating, then you got a fucking problem.

Mike Kelly (61:01)

Agreed.

Ivan Rakeland (61:02)

Like you become my enemy. Like that. So if that's occurring, guess what? Then Peter Thiel has a problem with me. But I haven't seen the clear evidence of that that's taking place.

Mike Kelly (61:16)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (61:17)

That he is in any way, shape or form complicit. If you can show me that, then I'm.

Mike Kelly (61:22)

Yeah, then email him, guys.

Ivan Rakeland (61:23)

Then my relationship is different with my view of. Of him. Because, I mean, it's. It's disingenuous for me to attack someone that's been, you know, good faith and, I mean, kind to me or whatever. Right.

Mike Kelly (61:40)

I'm sure you've lost some close relationships and friendships when new information surfaces. Because you.

Ivan Rakeland (61:45)

Oh, yeah.

Mike Kelly (61:45)

You seem very objective.

Ivan Rakeland (61:46)

Massive.

Mike Kelly (61:47)

When that happens, I'm sure you cut people off or cut time.

Ivan Rakeland (61:49)

I have that same conversation. I spent 25 years in the system, intel, community, special ops. I'll give you one example just on this note. I know people in the FBI. I still do. I knew when they were doing the Whole fucking tyranny of the last four years in the FBI. I knew people in the most publicized investigations in the last 10 years that were on those teams, and I still communicated with them. I said, hey, motherfucker, I've known you for 20 years. If you are any way, shape or form involved in weaponizing against General Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, these political fucking domestic hit jobs, or if you're involved in enforcing, criminalizing lawful First Amendment activity on January 6th, like, you're going to have a problem with me. And I don't give a. Like, you're. You may be a senior official at the FBI. That's when, like, the. The gloves come off and they. And they'd be like, see, that's why we're invested. That's why people investigate you because you use that rhetoric. I'm like, I'm not threatening anyone. I guarantee consequences when you fucking cross my red line. That's just. That's just me being a man.

Mike Kelly (63:06)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (63:07)

Now you can say that. That's medieval or whatever. Like, I'm sorry, I'm old school. You fucking come and cross my red line, you find out. And if you want to test. Like, if you want to test it, I would love. Like, please test it. So far, no one's really tested it. So I don't have. I can't prove. I would love to be able to show examples of me proving myself, that somebody came and tested it and then they got the fo Part of the fa. Right? But, like, I. I'll say the same thing to a fucking director of the FBI, the director of the CIA. I don't give a fuck how powerful you are. You're a man or a woman. And when you're like, one on one with me, that's how I treat you. You fuck up, I'm gonna call you out on it. You do good, I'm gonna call you as being fucking awesome about it, right?

Mike Kelly (63:59)

Respect.

Ivan Rakeland (64:00)

Now, a lot of people are sycophants that give you the positive reinforcement. And when there's too much of that, then I got to play the role of the bad cop, right? If somebody's playing bad cop already, that's fucking crushing skulls. Then I'm going to play the good cop to kind of balance things out in any situation. Because, like, I always try to fill the void of what I see not taking place. Like, if you look at all my content, it's like you can't categorize it. I just look at the entire landscape as much as I can I can follow in the public discourse and see what is not being covered and that's where I fucking go. Max.

Mike Kelly (64:35)

That's like the opposite approach. Everyone else copies each other.

Ivan Rakeland (64:38)

Yeah. So like most, most, most content creators, like, are talking about the news of what happened today. Okay.

Mike Kelly (64:45)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (64:46)

Some, like the higher IQ ones assess and kind of contextualize what happened.

Mike Kelly (64:53)

Right.

Ivan Rakeland (64:54)

The fucking maximum IQ people are taking all that and then create a strategy and plan to address it. I focus most of my time on what is the best course of action moving forward to fix the problem we're at. Just like as an entrepreneur, like, identify the problem, get the solution, create the product or service for that solution. Market, create product, market, fit and then scale. Right, yeah.

Mike Kelly (65:23)

I'm all about taking action. That's why I don't do many phone calls.

Ivan Rakeland (65:26)

But that's why like. But most of the. In the content creation business, and I'm not going to call out names because some of them do pretty good work. They're feeding the masses that aren't quite yet at that higher stage of critical thought and interaction because, you know, everyone on one side, a lot of people are busy. Right. So they're just kind of like passively listening, consuming content just for context. But it, it requires much more brain engagement and thought to. Okay. I've identified like the hardest thing is actually identifying the right problem. Most people identify the wrong problem. Everyone's identifying the wrong problem, which is like, who did you just have on? That is your. Who's your biggest viewed podcast?

Mike Kelly (66:10)

I would say it's Tate and Fuentes.

Ivan Rakeland (66:13)

And what are they talking about?

Mike Kelly (66:15)

Well, Fuentes is talking about Israel and America first, stuff like that.

Ivan Rakeland (66:20)

And why do people think he's controversial?

Mike Kelly (66:22)

They label him a Nazi, a white supremacist.

Ivan Rakeland (66:24)

Is that the problem? Is Nick Fuentes out there shilling for Big Pharma so that you're slaughtered? No, no, Last time I checked, that's not going on. However, did Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin shill for the Big Pharma products and the vaccines that resulted in negative impacts?

Mike Kelly (66:46)

Wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Ivan Rakeland (66:48)

I judge people based on their actions, or I should say the words that create destruction. Right.

Mike Kelly (66:56)

Would you ever?

Ivan Rakeland (66:58)

What about Tucker Carlson? He rejected the jabs.

Mike Kelly (67:01)

Yeah, he rejected it.

Ivan Rakeland (67:03)

And so it's almost as though people are looking at it from a. The false. Oh, anti Semitic, this and that. I look at it from a completely different perspective. I categorize it into who's making money and what's the money source and why are the attacks happening? In order to protect the money and power and influence that that money is coming from. And when you like if I now that I said it to you this way, hopefully you and the audience will now look at it from yet another angle of. Oh, shit. Maybe that's why Thomas Massie is going like the big pharma brand ambassador, Donald Trump who brings in Burla into the White House. Right. And Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates. Maybe that's why he's going after Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Maybe it's not just the Epstein files.

Mike Kelly (67:56)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (67:56)

Because they're pure broads. Right. Marjorie and Massey, they never took the jab. They're the ones that reject it the most of any member of the House. Like hands down, of the 435 in the house.

Mike Kelly (68:09)

I didn't know that. Full stop shout out to them for not doing.

Ivan Rakeland (68:12)

Yeah. And so when you look at it from that perspective, I think people will start to see the bigger play here.

Mike Kelly (68:19)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (68:20)

Albert Burla, he's in the White House. But Marjorie's rejected. Massie's rejected. Hmm. That's how I view it. So we talked about Peter Thiel, we talked about Jason Callican. Oh, Peter Thiel was at the, at the same Uber X party. I saw him there.

Mike Kelly (68:39)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (68:39)

Just brief interactions. And so, yeah, at the. I think at the end of the day, AI is coming. Whether China's gonna like China's is moving.

Mike Kelly (68:50)

Right.

Ivan Rakeland (68:51)

China is in a position to be the global leader in AI because they don't even have fake laws that aren't followed. Like here you have, quote, privacy laws that the government doesn't care about. But they're still on the books. Right. They're supposed to adhere to them. In China, you have 1.4 billion people as sensors to feed the AI based on all the devices that those 1.4 billion people have. Like that 1.4 billion versus 350 million, your big data set. And your AI is going to be much more robust in addition to the non privacy laws, for them to be the leader in AI. So to blame an individual on helping develop AI is. Yeah, I think you have to factor that in. Like we're. I think I've, I've said this this whole year, that 2025 is probably the last year that the more intelligent humans are going to be more capable than AI. I think next year, that's it.

Mike Kelly (69:57)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (69:58)

Like we're done.

Mike Kelly (69:58)

That's quite a statement right there.

Ivan Rakeland (70:01)

Because we're getting. Look how fast earlier this year we could be like oh, that's pretty cool. AI or like last year was deep fakes. Oh, that's pretty cool. A couple years ago. And then nowadays you watch some of these AI deep fakes, you can't even tell.

Mike Kelly (70:15)

I can't tell.

Ivan Rakeland (70:16)

You can't tell, right? Yeah, like, I can't tell. It's so outlandish. Like, a lot. A lot of the. The interactions with you see a lot of them in the. In the SORA feeds.

Mike Kelly (70:25)

Yeah. So our two videos.

Ivan Rakeland (70:27)

No, the. The animals interacting with each other. It's like, holy crap. But then you're like, that's probably AI. I mean, on some of these, if it's not for an AI label, you don't know if it's true or not. And so apply that to every human sense, vision, hearing, smell, touch, taste. You're not going to know what fucking. What's reality and what's not.

Mike Kelly (70:50)

That's crazy.

Ivan Rakeland (70:51)

So how do we deal with that? So it's not. I don't want to be a defender of Teal. I'm just telling you. I want to be full disclosure of my brief encounters relationships. Very, like, minuscule compared to, like, him. He would probably remember a few of them. I've been to a fundraiser that he held for Kris Kobach, who's currently the Attorney General in Kansas. That's another engagement interaction that I had with him. So in the collective, like, he'll recognize my name, but, like, we're not close. But on the AI front, I just don't know how we deal with it.

Mike Kelly (71:30)

I don't either. I don't think regulation is going to help if we're being honest.

Ivan Rakeland (71:33)

Regulation won't help because gun laws. Right. Oh, we're going to create more gun laws. If people want to use their gun, they're going to use their gun. Yeah, particularly if I need to use it for my defense. Right. Same thing with AI or any other human endeavor. Crime is committed always. So criminals are going to use AI to their advantage. And so it's just a cat and mouse game and it's going to get messy. It's going to be easy to exterminate humanity at scale. If that's what somebody's AI agent wants to do.

Mike Kelly (72:06)

Yeah, they just want to spit propaganda all day. Right?

Ivan Rakeland (72:08)

No, I'm talking like physical, physiological assassination.

Mike Kelly (72:11)

How so?

Ivan Rakeland (72:12)

Destruction. I mean, take big data, merge it with AI and then deploy it onto drone swarms.

Mike Kelly (72:20)

Holy.

Ivan Rakeland (72:20)

That are kinetically capable.

Mike Kelly (72:22)

Oh, my God. That's crazy. I was thinking more like just posting you thousands of times a day on different social media platforms with fake propaganda.

Ivan Rakeland (72:29)

But what mechanism stops somebody from like as soon as you open. You know those little mini drones? Yeah. Like how many? Like, let me see here. Is there a ventilator in here?

Mike Kelly (72:41)

Yeah, right there, I think.

Ivan Rakeland (72:42)

How big, how big is the smallest hole?

Mike Kelly (72:46)

You could fit a drone in that? Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (72:50)

Imagine you just in the ventilation system. That's already been documented, a swarm of drones with lethal capability on it. And while we're talking here, we get Charlie Kirk.

Mike Kelly (73:00)

It's very easy to assassinate someone. I feel like if you want to make that happen, unfortunately that's just the nature of it these days.

Ivan Rakeland (73:06)

And then the easiest way to identify where the individual is is through this. It's already, you know. You already know. You can easily find out who the target is. We're sitting here, deploy the capability. Boom. And you know it's right here. Me?

Mike Kelly (73:18)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (73:19)

Through the facial recognition.

Mike Kelly (73:20)

It's nuts. So I'm filming at Charlie's event in a couple weeks. I wonder what the atmosphere is going to be like this year.

Ivan Rakeland (73:26)

Oh, it turning Point. You're going down there.

Mike Kelly (73:28)

America Fest. I've filmed there every year.

Ivan Rakeland (73:30)

Oh, wow. Were you there last year?

Mike Kelly (73:31)

I was. Were you there?

Ivan Rakeland (73:32)

I was there, yeah.

Mike Kelly (73:33)

Oh, you didn't see me filming there?

Ivan Rakeland (73:34)

I guess I didn't.

Mike Kelly (73:35)

Okay. Go to Meteoro this year.

Ivan Rakeland (73:37)

I was. I did not. Patrick bet David, but Sosnik.

Mike Kelly (73:43)

Adam.

Ivan Rakeland (73:43)

Yeah, I think Adam was there. The whole crew. Everybody except for Patrick was there.

Mike Kelly (73:47)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (73:48)

At the suspendables.

Mike Kelly (73:52)

They were probably on Meteor Row somewhere.

Ivan Rakeland (73:54)

Yeah, they had like a big booth. I did a few hits down there right now. I'm 10 to them. I'm not sure if I'm heading out there.

Mike Kelly (74:01)

A lot of people are on the fence this year. A lot of changes at that company. A lot of uneasiness, a lot of fighting, infighting. On the right. Tim Pool and Candace are going at it right now. I don't know how it's going to.

Ivan Rakeland (74:11)

Be before we go into that. Should we do Vaynerchuk?

Mike Kelly (74:13)

Yeah, let's. Let's do Vayner. Then we'll go into Candace.

Ivan Rakeland (74:15)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (74:16)

So how did you meet Gary Vee?

Ivan Rakeland (74:18)

Yeah, so gary vee. In 2010, I finished the. What's called the Special Forces Qualification course. And for the qtards out there, I'm going to say this, it's actually called the Q course for short. And there you learn how to conduct, especially as an officer. You're taught how to run a 12 man team to be able to go into a country Infiltrate, and then the key mission is to conduct what's called unconventional warfare. Seven phases, you plan. I won't go into the details of the seven phases, but I'll just put it this way, that you're taught how to deploy on behalf of the United States. To go into a foreign country to then work with a indigenous force not in power train, advise, equip, and assist them to then be in a position to overthrow their government that is not friendly to U.S. interests. Kind of like what we did with the Northern alliance in Afghanistan when you were, like, 4 years old.

Mike Kelly (75:17)

I don't know what that is.

Ivan Rakeland (75:20)

Never heard of that after 9 11. You're at a 9 11.

Mike Kelly (75:22)

I heard a 9 11. Okay. I'm not that young. I don't remember it, though. I was, what, four years old?

Ivan Rakeland (75:28)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Van (third Trump assassin accused) (75:29)

Four.

Mike Kelly (75:30)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (75:31)

So the. Oh, I'm out.

Mike Kelly (75:35)

Oh, gotta get you another one.

Ivan Rakeland (75:36)

I gotta get me this man. Before we get to Gary Vee.

Mike Kelly (75:41)

Gary Vee, Edison, New Jersey. Always like my New Jerseyans.

Ivan Rakeland (75:45)

All right, so I finished the Q course. Now I'm newly minted as a Green Beret. I think I'm the fucking baddest motherfucker in the world. Right?

Mike Kelly (75:53)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (75:53)

Ah, I got my Green Beret. I'm a Special Forces officer.

Mike Kelly (75:57)

I'm the.

Ivan Rakeland (75:58)

You know, nothing touches me. Best thing since sliced bread. Totally cocky and arrogant. Right. By the way, I'm the most humble human to ever walk the face of the earth. So with that swagger and attitude, I'm thinking to myself, and I was in the National Guard, so, like, all of the training is all the same and deployments are the same. When you're not in that deployment cycle, you're a civilian pretty much. Right. Except for that one weekend a month. So I'm thinking to myself, all right, what do I want to do? I want to kind of get in the entrepreneur, you know, network, figure out what's going on in that space. So you heard of Inc.

Mike Kelly (76:35)

Ink magazine? Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (76:36)

Yeah. So Inc 5005000 has the annual conference, and that year, I think it was 2010. Yeah. They had it in D.C. okay. And so I signed up. I was like, wow, it's a lot of money. For me. At the time, it was like, a couple thousand.

Mike Kelly (76:51)

Damn, that's a lot.

Ivan Rakeland (76:52)

To attend the event conference. Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, might as well. So I attend the event, and I'm just hanging out, networking. I see somebody, and he comes up to me, and I'm like, hey, what's Going on Ivan Rakelin. I'm just. I told him pretty much what I said that just finished, just graduated. I'm a Green Beret now and just looking at doing business, see what the opportunities are. Just figure out, you know, just path forward. And he's like, yeah, I have a YouTube channel. I do wine stuff. You know, I sell. Do wine commercials.

Mike Kelly (77:29)

Wine library.

Ivan Rakeland (77:29)

Yeah, wine library, tv. I'm like, that's pretty gay. Sounds pretty gay. I'm like, okay, cool. That's pretty cool. I was like, what? Like, what kind of stuff do you do? He's like, yeah, but I'm also doing like a social media company, advertising agency. Like, yes. Sounds pretty gay too.

Mike Kelly (77:53)

Vayner X, one of the biggest agencies in the world.

Ivan Rakeland (77:56)

So again, I know nothing about the space. Right. I know nothing about anybody. And that's why I'm there to figure out, like, who's who and who's like.

Mike Kelly (78:05)

Was he big at the time? I don't know.

Ivan Rakeland (78:07)

2010, right?

Mike Kelly (78:07)

2010. He was just like coming on the scene then, I think.

Ivan Rakeland (78:10)

I think he was just starting VaynerMedia.

Mike Kelly (78:13)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (78:13)

So before we get to that, it was like, so, okay, Gary Vaynerchuk. Oh, interesting. Was that Eastern European or something? I was like, yeah, yeah, that's Belarusian. And so I bust out, started speaking in Russian with him. I was like, oh, gorda. And I started talking to him, asking him in Russian. He's like, we're in America. I speak English in America. I'm like, whoa, okay. Three strikes you're out. I guess I got to be careful. All right. On the show, you got a gay ass company, you're working on something gay ass. And now you're going to be all pissed off that you're not even going to respond to me in Russian. Okay. That's kind of like being a cuck. So I move on. Obviously, he's pissed. And we're sitting at the. I think we were sitting at the same table. The event.

Mike Kelly (79:05)

That's even worse.

Ivan Rakeland (79:07)

And then I'm like, a few years later, just the name keeps coming up on social media and all the different socials. I hear Vaynerchuk. I'm like, man, that name rings a bell. I think I shitted on someone a few years ago at this INC conference with that name. And so I started doing some research, do a little bit of research. Started analyzing. Like, oh, shit, I think that's the guy. And so I started watching some videos. I'm like, yeah, it's just some punk. He's just self, you know. Aggradizing personal marketing. To me it didn't make any sense. Nothing made sense. And what changed my mindset about Gary Vaynerchuk is one video. And I read his books. I read like all the books stuff. What really got me to respecting what he was doing and working on is his video. One is greater than zero. Have you seen that?

Mike Kelly (80:02)

No.

Ivan Rakeland (80:03)

That is fucking powerful. And I apply that to my lifestyle as well. And here's the crux of it's three minutes. So I don't know if you can throw it in here.

Mike Kelly (80:14)

Maybe not the whole thing, but parts of it.

Ivan Rakeland (80:17)

So it's one is greater than zero and essentially shows his rise based on his grinding every day. One is greater than zero, meaning one view is better than zero views. So he says, I'd rather have a deep 15 minute discussion with those people that supported me at the very beginning. Or like he talks about, I'd rather have depth rather than like breadth, you know, because when you're breath you're like, you're stretching yourself out.

Mike Kelly (80:48)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (80:48)

Really quality over quantity, right? You got quantity versus quality. And so he said I'd rather rather than going on a CNN or Fox or he talks about like really big shows and programs. Sometimes he's like, no, I'm not, I'm not gonna do those. I'd rather do a 15, whatever 20 minute show on some small niche podcast. It's exactly what we're doing right here. Yeah, I'd rather do a, a full length, no time limit, just go into as much detail so that you can draw Every like my 25 years experience in the deep state, if you will, as an insider to expose it all. As opposed to a 5, 10, 20 second clip sound bite for some chump criminal News network. Ms. Lsd Phone news. Washington compost hit, right? New oak slimes. And the reason why I call them that, because they're shit. Yeah, they're absolute fucking garbage that have manipulated and lied to America. And like I can call it out because I've been in the system if I can't call them out, like there's literally very few people that can say and call their bluff. It's all predicated on fucking bullshit. So going back to Gary Vee when I saw that video where he says, like I did the 1, the 15s and the 69 and the 84 views and the 78 views and the 123s day in and day out because he was doing the interviews like with 10 views, 100 views, right? 25 views. And he's not an overnight success. Yeah, he's been grinding for years. But he jumped in the YouTube when, like, no one heard of YouTube when he started his channel. So he created an itch and totally dominated on it. Which leads me to another reference I want to talk about that video, One is Greater than Zero. And then Peter Thiel's book, Zero to One.

Mike Kelly (82:39)

That's a good book.

Ivan Rakeland (82:40)

I got a signed copy when he, like, I went had that meeting with him in August of 2017.

Mike Kelly (82:45)

I read that one years ago.

Ivan Rakeland (82:47)

Zero to one. You don't want competition, you want to fucking dominate. Okay. Total domination, monopoly style.

Mike Kelly (82:55)

Yep.

Ivan Rakeland (82:56)

That's what every entrepreneur wants. Right. It's the rest of it's the consumers and the government, etc, that want to limit and stifle that. Which I agree. It's good for the government to come in and sometimes get in the way of destructive capitalism. Right. Like the jabs, for one, as one example. And so where I guess the moral of the story here is kind of know where you're going into because I just totally all over. Literally one of the best, like, branding entrepreneurs of our time. Right. Of our era. Like, that guy's very successful. He's got like the biggest marketing agency that no one's ever heard of in mainstream.

Mike Kelly (83:40)

Yeah, no, he's got some huge clients.

Ivan Rakeland (83:41)

Right. And so. But I think I recovered because since then I bumped into him at different events and.

Mike Kelly (83:49)

Does he remember you?

Ivan Rakeland (83:50)

I'm not sure if he'd remember me, but I did go to his offices for an event where I talked to him briefly. Like, I don't. I'm not like, close with him. I would be surprised if he remembers my name, to be honest. But I bumped into him at his, you know, Vayner X in Manhattan a few years back, a while ago now. And then social media marketing world I went to heard about in Michael Seltzer runs that I actually every once in a while somebody like reminds me about him. I'll text him, he'll still respond to me. Michael Selzner. So, like I have this unique, eclectic. Like how many people in government have this? Like the tech, the big tech, the social media. Like, I was involved in Periscope at the first community Periscope community summit in Manhattan.

Mike Kelly (84:35)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (84:35)

When. What's the other one? The competitor. This is before your freaking time.

Mike Kelly (84:39)

Periscope. I heard a Periscope.

Ivan Rakeland (84:40)

So like, I like, I know these people. Like the former CEO of Periscope, right. Back in the day. He probably remember me. Some of the bigger influencers back then that These are all. Probably all. Mostly before the political hatred.

Mike Kelly (84:55)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (84:56)

Has. Has taken place. Like, I didn't know what their political affiliation was business wise.

Mike Kelly (85:01)

But now it's like, well, now the two worlds are. They're so intertwined, the tech world and the political world. Right.

Ivan Rakeland (85:07)

And so I have these relationships with probably libtards that predate the entire mudsling. Right.

Mike Kelly (85:17)

Libtards. Yeah. That's the tech world, though. That's how it used to be. But I think it's.

Ivan Rakeland (85:22)

But now it's changed because Elon obviously changed course and Jason jumping on board. He's still skeptical. Critical. I get it. That's fine. As long as you're. I'm okay with people that are. Good faith.

Mike Kelly (85:31)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (85:32)

Critical. And call it out on both sides. If you don't call it out on both sides and it's like you're a sycophant and it's like, okay, I can't respect. You can do that.

Mike Kelly (85:41)

Yeah, I can't respect.

Ivan Rakeland (85:41)

But that means you're. You're. To me, I'm loyal to the truth. And going back to what you said, I've lost a lot of whatever relationships because I value truth over any relationship.

Mike Kelly (85:55)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (85:57)

Yep.

Mike Kelly (85:57)

That's. That's a pretty rare trait.

Ivan Rakeland (85:59)

And so you want to get on my bad side.

Mike Kelly (86:03)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (86:03)

You start not being acting in good faith.

Mike Kelly (86:06)

Damn.

Ivan Rakeland (86:07)

But you can make mistakes. Don't get me wrong. Like, I make mistakes and I always like, if I up, I want to be the first one to correct myself. I want to beat anybody else from noticing that I up. Like, that should be the goal. Like, that's the. That's what we should strive for.

Mike Kelly (86:25)

I agree.

Ivan Rakeland (86:25)

In business and relationships.

Mike Kelly (86:27)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (86:28)

Because like, sometimes I'll accuse somebody that is near and dear to me. I was like, hey man, why the did you leave that or this and that? Like, you know, and then they explain, I don't believe them. And it's like, oh, you were right. I want to be the first one to say, like, hey, you know what? I don't apologize often, but I want it to be meaningful when I do apologize because it's sincere. Because if you've apologized too often, you're just fucking cowardly weak and you just meek. But if you're legitimately, like, you fuck up, the right thing to do is to own it. But you got to own it. But the goal is to own it and identify that you up before anybody else does, other than like the person that you may have aggrieved in that up.

Mike Kelly (87:10)

Yeah. Yeah. Most people Cannot admit they're in the wrong at first like that. You know what I mean?

Ivan Rakeland (87:14)

So that's why every J6 or every single person that fought for 2020 election against the fraud, against the J6OP, everyone that went to jail. Like, the first thing I do when I first meet or talk to him, I apologize to him because I say I didn't realize it at the time, but I should have, that I kind of forced Nancy Pelosi into running that entrapment. Wow. And number two, I apologize that I didn't fight harder to stop you from going to jail. Like, I feel like I'm responsible and should have done more.

Mike Kelly (87:52)

Hats off to you, man. I've had a few of them on the show. Actually, I had to stop because it was so censored, dude. Yeah, it was bad. Like, I had social media accounts deleted. Just. Even the guy with the horns. What's his name? Yeah, that one got me nuked having him on. Yeah. I got bandits.

Ivan Rakeland (88:08)

Well, you know why, right?

Mike Kelly (88:09)

Well, he's like a conspiracy theorist. Q and A, allegedly.

Ivan Rakeland (88:12)

The reason why all this is if you go back and, like, critically think, like, why is this censored and this not right, or this and this not timing. What are the. Well, no. What are the things that you've been most censored for?

Mike Kelly (88:27)

Let's step through vaccines, J6, 2020 election, and then anything to do with cures of diseases.

Ivan Rakeland (88:36)

Okay, so let's tie it back to money. Vaccines. What happens if you show evidence that it may not be as safe and effective as what the government's told you that it was? Who does it hurt?

Mike Kelly (88:54)

Big Pharma.

Ivan Rakeland (88:56)

Yep. And how much do they fund? Everything?

Mike Kelly (89:00)

A lot.

Ivan Rakeland (89:01)

So you're basically jeopardizing the business model.

Mike Kelly (89:05)

Yeah. You're jeopardizing the advertisers of the platforms. They don't like that. I get it from a business point of view, believe me.

Ivan Rakeland (89:11)

From a business point of view.

Mike Kelly (89:12)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (89:12)

But then it's like, again, to me, it's truth over.

Mike Kelly (89:15)

I don't give a fuck about everything I want to speak.

Ivan Rakeland (89:18)

And that's why, like, I'm not bending a knee, right?

Mike Kelly (89:21)

Yeah, it's a.

Ivan Rakeland (89:21)

That's why even some people in our ecosystem, the maga, whatever, there's some big influencers that I used to communicate with and have good relationships with rather than come, like, confronting me. They just don't talk to me because they, like. They know that, like, the truth is more important to me. And I'm talking about some of these folks that are shilling for other countries now.

Mike Kelly (89:46)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (89:46)

You can.

Mike Kelly (89:46)

Clearly there's a lot of that these days. I'm getting hit with a lot of those accusations myself. I don't know how to deal with it.

Ivan Rakeland (89:52)

What should I be aware of?

Mike Kelly (89:54)

I'm getting hit with Israel.

Ivan Rakeland (89:55)

One man that you're shilling for Israel. Yeah.

Mike Kelly (89:57)

Every. Every comment is $7,000 because I have on pro Israel guests.

Ivan Rakeland (90:01)

Every comment.

Mike Kelly (90:02)

Oh, yeah, I get hit with the 7,000 every video now. It's crazy. I'm losing thousands of followers every day.

Ivan Rakeland (90:07)

So why do you think they're doing it?

Mike Kelly (90:09)

Because I have on guests that are pro Israel, but so they think I'm getting paid or benefiting in some sort of way.

Ivan Rakeland (90:16)

But how do you counter that?

Mike Kelly (90:17)

Have on pro Palestinian guests. But the, the ratio is off. I'm probably like 70, 30 right now.

Ivan Rakeland (90:22)

So why don't you have pro America? Yes.

Mike Kelly (90:24)

America first. I had on Fuentes, I have on you. I have on. Who else is America First?

Ivan Rakeland (90:28)

I don't even know the way I look at it. This way is the only way you can get to truth is an uninhibited First Amendment. Does that make sense? It's like if you're limiting what I can say, that means you limit my ability to get to the truth. In order to get to truth, sometimes you have to, like, you have to do research, you have to discuss, you have to compare notes, you have to share. But if you. If I tell you, all right, we're going to have this interview, but you got to shut the fuck up. Go. Don't even laugh. Don't even fucking make a sound. Let's have an interview now, tell me what you think. Shut the fuck up. Like, that's ridiculous, right? So if you're a First Amendment, you can go ahead, talk. When you're a First Amendment absolutist, that means you can say whatever the fuck you want.

Mike Kelly (91:16)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (91:18)

And if you're wrong, and I'm not sensitive by any stretch of the means, I'm going to call you out on it and then bring receipts while you are wrong. And then I'm going to wait and see. You got anything to fucking supersede what I just said?

Mike Kelly (91:31)

Right.

Ivan Rakeland (91:32)

Just like in a courtroom, for example. But this is a court of public opinion. But the court of public opinion consists of, let's face it, I got 20 years on most of your audience, right? So I got an unfair advantage there. But your audience has an unfair advantage on some of the new developments and AI tools, marketing. But I, I try to stay up. I'M using Grok Pro. I'm using Chat GPT Pro. Like there's like five or six other agents that I use. So I'm a little bit better than probably almost all boomers, right?

Mike Kelly (92:03)

Probably.

Ivan Rakeland (92:03)

Yeah. But you know, stuff like the studio setup and stuff like when you compare notes. If I tell you you can't talk about a certain thing because. And then you self censor. We can't hash it out. You can't like iron sharpens iron.

Mike Kelly (92:19)

I feel that. I agree. That's why I'm doing a lot of debates lately. Actually, I'm moderating a lot of debates.

Ivan Rakeland (92:24)

Good, good.

Mike Kelly (92:24)

Yeah, yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (92:25)

Cuz you learn a thing or two.

Mike Kelly (92:26)

But I got a strike for that too.

Ivan Rakeland (92:28)

Yeah, but when the.

Mike Kelly (92:30)

It's crazy.

Ivan Rakeland (92:31)

When a private individual does that, I just call that fucking coward. Gutless fucking turd. When the government does that, I'm fucking gunning for you. Okay. When the government tells me what I can say and what I can listen to, we have a fucking problem.

Mike Kelly (92:49)

Right. And they're in bed with.

Ivan Rakeland (92:50)

And I'm gonna address that problem.

Mike Kelly (92:51)

Yeah, they're in bed with these social media platforms now, right? Yeah, they're one in the same.

Ivan Rakeland (92:55)

They're tell you doing it on your own volition. I'm just gonna call you out like Dan Bongino last week.

Mike Kelly (93:00)

Yeah, what happened to him?

Ivan Rakeland (93:01)

He fucking blocked me. Right. What's on Twitter?

Mike Kelly (93:03)

No way. I used to love his podcast, by the way.

Ivan Rakeland (93:07)

So. Yeah. Yeah, great. Exposing a lot of stuff. Truth.

Mike Kelly (93:11)

Why'd he block you?

Ivan Rakeland (93:11)

I mean, what. Well, before I answer that, what do you think if you see somebody blocking somebody of. I mean, you heard me speak, right?

Mike Kelly (93:21)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (93:21)

I'm probably not the dumbest guy in the room, right? Would you. I probably know a little bit about the government. I can probably give some pretty solid advice. We haven't even gotten into the forecasting part. The phases that I talked about. Like what? How do we fix things forward? So if our government at the deputy director of the FBI level doesn't want critical feedback, are they going to be able to see the entire landscape of the problem? No, they might not even identify the real problem. Even though he knows. Dan and Cash know the deep state better than most people, when you look.

Mike Kelly (94:01)

At their body language when they get interviewed and how they respond compared to previous interviews, it's night and day.

Ivan Rakeland (94:08)

It's like they're hostages.

Mike Kelly (94:09)

It's night and day.

Ivan Rakeland (94:10)

I mean, do I look like someone fucking controls me?

Mike Kelly (94:12)

No, you're loose, you're laughing, you're.

Ivan Rakeland (94:15)

I Just say whatever, whatever's off. You know, my body of lifetime experience. To be able to genuinely. Through interpersonal skills. Right, with iq, right? Intellectual and or eq. Excuse me? IQ and eq. To be able to respond to you. Right.

Mike Kelly (94:31)

Yeah. They look tense. They're.

Ivan Rakeland (94:34)

Notice how I pause there? Because I'm paying attention to your non verbals too. Because a lot of times non verbals are faster than what you can. Your brain can come in, communicate and say. And they're just tense, right?

Mike Kelly (94:46)

Very.

Ivan Rakeland (94:47)

And what did they say on Maria Bartiromo show on Fox News? Because they're told they can only go on Fox News and be cosplaying over there along with Pam Bondi as a co host. All they do is say that, oh, it's coming. Just wait for it. It's coming. Guess what, bro, I've been. There's the trust me bro factor that has already expired. There's the waiting. You, bro, you've been in the position 10 months. You haven't even done the fucking simple shit. The simple shit? I'll remind you what the simple shit is, Cash. Dan, remember those whistleblowers from the FBI? The Garrett o', Boyles, the Steve Friends, Even if you don't like how he talks, Kyle Seraphin, etc. They fucking stood their ground. How about you elevate them to the most senior positions in the very FBI so that you have a layer of protection if you're gonna fucking clean house. And oh, by the way, last I checked, you wanted to raise down to the ground the FBI headquarters. Oh, now you're gonna upgrade him to the Ronald Reagan building a couple blocks down the road and pat him on the back. We have a problem. I was excited that Cash and Dan were so pumped. And then.

Mike Kelly (96:00)

I'm never gonna fall for that.

Ivan Rakeland (96:01)

Week into it, two weeks into it, fucking nothing. Yeah, personnel is policy. The very first thing that they, all of these people should have done and they can still do now. Like tomorrow they can wake up and say, oh, you know what? Fuck, they need to wipe out every single person that is vaccinated in this country.

Mike Kelly (96:17)

What a statement.

Ivan Rakeland (96:17)

Fucking wipe them all out. Exterminate them.

Mike Kelly (96:21)

You think it's that bad? Yeah, being vaccinated.

Ivan Rakeland (96:25)

Because what does that. That. That is the number one litmus test of your metal as an American citizen these last five fucking years.

Mike Kelly (96:35)

What about the forced ones when you had a job?

Ivan Rakeland (96:39)

I'm gonna repeat myself if you got the fucking vax in this government, you do not belong in my government. Full stop.

Mike Kelly (96:48)

Damn.

Ivan Rakeland (96:48)

Okay, now I do give mercy for those that were injured, that were forced and injured by the jab. Because now you're going to be able to explain to everyone else how you fucked up.

Mike Kelly (97:06)

Yeah, I feel that.

Ivan Rakeland (97:08)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (97:08)

At least admit you fucked up, because some people are still denying it.

Ivan Rakeland (97:10)

And if you disagree with me, you're a fucking extremist.

Mike Kelly (97:13)

There's too much proof.

Ivan Rakeland (97:14)

Here's why. You, you were not a critical thinker. You caved to the prevailing narrative and you like, okay, I get it. Some people like, ah, I made the wrong decision. Dan Bongino took the jab. Okay, did he? He doesn't belong in my government.

Mike Kelly (97:33)

Wow, I did not know.

Ivan Rakeland (97:33)

Okay, that's how I feel. Because those that were critical thinkers first. They were critical thinkers and refused at first. Right. Two, they withstood the tyranny of the four year Biden criminal syndicate that tried to force these government officials into the jab. They lost families, fortune, et cetera, et cetera. They've already proven up. That's all the resume that I need.

Mike Kelly (98:04)

Would you apply that to the highest level though?

Ivan Rakeland (98:06)

Cuz I would.

Mike Kelly (98:07)

Big guy got it too.

Ivan Rakeland (98:08)

I would.

Mike Kelly (98:09)

So even the President, I couldn't believe he got it. He got it pretty late to the last round I saw a few months ago or whatever.

Ivan Rakeland (98:16)

He's proving himself to be a big pharma protector shill.

Mike Kelly (98:20)

I wonder if he actually got it. You think he did or you think.

Ivan Rakeland (98:23)

He boasts about it and his truth socials and he boasts about it.

Mike Kelly (98:28)

Wow, that's crazy to me because I, I've had Trump Jr. On the show and I just, I'd find it hard to believe, but who knows, maybe he actually got it.

Ivan Rakeland (98:37)

Tell me how, like disagree with me.

Mike Kelly (98:39)

I, I don't see Trump Jr. Getting it. I don't know if he said he got it, but if he's anything like his father. Just hard to believe for me, you.

Ivan Rakeland (98:46)

Know, before, like I, I gave a couple years of grace. At this point, like my patience is over. There's no more grace.

Mike Kelly (98:53)

Wow, you were a big supporter of him, right?

Ivan Rakeland (98:57)

No, I'm talking about on the jab issue.

Mike Kelly (98:59)

Oh, okay.

Ivan Rakeland (99:00)

I'm talking about not overall.

Mike Kelly (99:01)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (99:02)

I'm not saying overall. The last few months it's been betrayal after betrayal he goes after. I mean, having let me go through the list, Albert Burla, the CEO of Pfizer, the largest DNA mutilation distribution company on the planet. Okay, what does that mean? I mean, the CDC's own website talks about how they, how many Pfizer jabs resulted in, I mean we're talking about 30 plus thousand people slaughtered. Just. And that's a factor of potentially only 1% based. You know, if you look at the, you know, the vaccine Adverse events reporting system on CDC's website.

Mike Kelly (99:44)

What about it?

Ivan Rakeland (99:46)

It lists who was, who died as a result of a jab and it's a 31 year database. 32, 33 at this point, I think. And when you look at it and you just search for not injuries or adverse events, you look at deaths as a result of jabs that were put, processed through the system, there's 38,000 deaths that have resulted as a result of the COVID jabs, which accounts for over 50% of all vaccines of every category for 33 years.

Mike Kelly (100:18)

Holy shit. That's crazy.

Ivan Rakeland (100:22)

Guess what? What happened when I talked about when I would screenshot and screen video the CDC's own data and post it on YouTube.

Mike Kelly (100:33)

Oh yeah, that got taken down.

Ivan Rakeland (100:34)

Or not YouTube, on Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram.

Mike Kelly (100:38)

All of it censored.

Ivan Rakeland (100:40)

It's the government's own data.

Mike Kelly (100:44)

They want the plausible deniability that they published it, but they just don't want it reaching the masses.

Ivan Rakeland (100:48)

Right?

Mike Kelly (100:49)

Yeah, yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (100:50)

And so when you look at that and you look at a Harvard study that was done that says the CDC's VAERS, the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System only addresses 1%, documents 1% because like most people don't file it if there's a death or an injury. So if you do a multiple of 100, what's 38,000 times 100? 3.8 million. Yeah, let's just say it's not 100. The multiple is 50. That's still what, 2 million? 1.9. And so we don't know. Right. Because they've censored us out of the truth. And so that's. This will probably get censored as well.

Mike Kelly (101:28)

Yeah, we'll have to.

Ivan Rakeland (101:30)

That's the problem is because like I'm, I'm citing stuff. It's not like Ivan Rakeland spewing bullshit. Yeah, we can pull it up. It's, it's the VAERS1 database. W O N D E R database on the seat. Just look up on search Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System and then look at the data yourself. And then people are like, well that's fake, that's false. Well then show me that it's fake. What better data can you use than that? CDC's own data? It's ridiculous.

Mike Kelly (102:05)

So.

Ivan Rakeland (102:08)

On that note, why would anyone. That's America first or MAGA Endorse a Democrat Covid criminal that slaughtered thousands of elderly, that they admitted that they slaughtered as governor of New York to be the mayor of New York City, Andrew Cuomo. That's a total betrayal.

Mike Kelly (102:36)

He got smoked in the last race.

Ivan Rakeland (102:38)

So why would Trump endorse him? Cuomo? That, to me, is a total betrayal.

Mike Kelly (102:45)

What was the other option? I guess Adams. Eric Adams. Oh, wait, yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (102:51)

The Republican. Yeah, yeah, There was a Republican. There was the communist, that one. And then there was the Democrat turned independent. Covid Fucking criminal. Who did Miriam Adelson tell Susie Wiles. To tell Donald Trump to endorse the Democrat? Covid criminal.

Mike Kelly (103:15)

You think Trump's following Adelson's orders like that?

Ivan Rakeland (103:20)

Let's go through the indicators.

Mike Kelly (103:22)

Bring in the facts and receipts.

Ivan Rakeland (103:24)

Let's go through some of the indicators.

Mike Kelly (103:26)

She is the biggest donor, right?

Ivan Rakeland (103:27)

There you go. Let's start with that. She's the biggest donor to the Trump campaign and PACs. Associated affiliated PACs. Right? Number two, Elon Musk.

Mike Kelly (103:40)

In the last cycle, she donated to Elon.

Ivan Rakeland (103:42)

No, I'm talking about to Trump.

Mike Kelly (103:44)

Oh, okay.

Ivan Rakeland (103:44)

Because Elon donated a bunch.

Mike Kelly (103:46)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (103:46)

So after Miriam, it's Elon. Right. So what happened on May 31? May 31, Miriam Adelson flicked out Elon Musk out of the White House. Right. Or who did? Sergio Gore, supposedly, the media says. You think Sergio Gore. Do you think that if Miriam Adelson and Susie Wiles, the chief of staff, and Donald Trump wanted to keep Elon Musk in the fold and veto the head of personnel, Sergio Gore, that they would have done it?

Mike Kelly (104:22)

They could have. They had the power.

Ivan Rakeland (104:23)

Did they?

Mike Kelly (104:24)

No.

Ivan Rakeland (104:26)

There's another indicator. Okay, next indicator is who was on Bibi Netanyahu's 2020 reelection campaign in Israel. Initially, one individual.

Mike Kelly (104:41)

Was it her?

Ivan Rakeland (104:42)

Susie Wiles, the current chief of staffer, Donald Trump. Did you know that?

Mike Kelly (104:46)

No.

Ivan Rakeland (104:47)

What do you think? When? Now that you know this?

Mike Kelly (104:49)

It's weird. In Israel, she was. It's weird to me.

Ivan Rakeland (104:53)

Like elaborate weird.

Mike Kelly (104:56)

Like she was running for political position.

Ivan Rakeland (104:58)

In Israel, you're saying no, she was a campaign strategic advisor to Bibi Netanyahu's campaign in 2020.

Mike Kelly (105:03)

Oh, got it. Okay. See the connection now.

Ivan Rakeland (105:10)

So for those 7,000 comments, I think I'm gonna be able to counter those a little bit.

Mike Kelly (105:17)

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Maybe I won't get as many. Man, I'm getting smoked. Absolutely smoked. I don't know how to fight it, man. I can't. It's not like I could prove anything.

Ivan Rakeland (105:31)

Let's step through it. So you have Miriam Adelson providing maximum funding. Right. Both to Trump and to Benjamin Netanyahu. Like, remember Trump about a month ago said that Miriam Adelson is more loyal to Israel.

Mike Kelly (105:49)

Yeah. Saw that.

Ivan Rakeland (105:50)

Than the United States. But yet she's the biggest donor to Trump. What do most people think when I say that?

Mike Kelly (105:57)

I mean, she donates even more to Israel. Right?

Ivan Rakeland (105:59)

Logically that's one aspect. But like, how much? The bottom line question is, like, for those that are voting and wanting to be part of the political process, do you want your American government officials to have loyalties to another country more than your own?

Mike Kelly (106:18)

Hell no.

Ivan Rakeland (106:18)

Regardless of what country it is? No, I think most. I would probably say that 90% of the country agrees with you.

Mike Kelly (106:25)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (106:26)

If not more so then. But why is it that way? Because money talks. Right. So then how do we decouple from that? But before we do decouple, do the exercise of decoupling. It's. If Epstein is a blackmail operation, which I think 100% of your viewers agree with that.

Mike Kelly (106:48)

I would say most of them, yeah, 99% at this point. Yeah, I got a young audience.

Ivan Rakeland (106:52)

So if you agree that is a blackmail operation ran by the Mossad jointly with the CIA and MI6, or let's just say it's just a Mossad and they have dirt and blackmail through this scheme of key individuals, leadership, politicians, finance, business, etc. And you're the biggest, most influential donor to Israel. Miriam, do you want those files to be released?

Mike Kelly (107:25)

No.

Ivan Rakeland (107:25)

Why?

Mike Kelly (107:27)

It would expose a lot.

Ivan Rakeland (107:30)

It removes your leverage, right?

Mike Kelly (107:32)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (107:32)

Dude. If I can't blackmail you, like if, if the blackmail that I have on you is now exposed, you have to deal with the public pressure and the criminality and the civil litigation, etc. Right. But I no longer have leverage over you because it's now out there publicly. If I'm the one holding the blackmail over you. Right. So if I'm Miriam, hypothetically, if I'm Miriam Adelson and this Epstein blackmail ring is as such, and I control BB Netanyahu through my funding or influence, I don't want the things to be released. And if I also influence, financially and policy wise, Donald Trump in the White House, I want to make sure that he doesn't allow the release of those Epstein files. Because then if he does, I'm not going to fund him, I'm not going to fund a bb. And everybody loses right within the top tier. But the truth gets exposed. So what did I say about truth? Like, I'M loyal to the truth. I don't give a fuck about a trillionaire or president or prime minister. Okay? So therein lies the problem. Because I think most of the MAGA base, America First Base, they don't have relationship. Like I have deeper relationship than most of the people listening in. Like, I just listed off tons of people that I like. Everybody's number, right?

Mike Kelly (109:00)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (109:01)

I can fuck with them. Damn. On G. I can fuck with him, text him all day long till he blocks me on text or signal or whatever. Same thing with Cash. They can ignore me, but they'll probably still receive the message. They'll have to delete it or ignore it, whatever. Mute blah. Or if they don't do that, then I can talk to like a dozen people around them. Right. You probably have the same ability if you're going all these events turning point. Like, like it's a small space. Small space, Right. Once you're in it. So if, if Miriam Adelson is doing this and they have blackmail on certain cabinet level officials that she teed up to be in this cabinet. Even if Trump's not in on it and some of his cabinet is in the Epstein files, is he going to want to release them?

Mike Kelly (109:51)

No.

Ivan Rakeland (109:52)

Is Pam Bondi going to want to release them? Is Cash going to want to release them? So therein lies the problem. We're at a pivotal point here. The deadline to Release them is December 19th.

Mike Kelly (110:04)

Why that date?

Ivan Rakeland (110:05)

That's the 30 days after the legislation was signed in by President Trump nearly unanimously by the House and Senate. They have until December 19th.

Mike Kelly (110:15)

So if it doesn't get released, then it's not getting released basically, is what you're saying.

Ivan Rakeland (110:18)

Whoa, whoa, whoa. What makes you think that?

Mike Kelly (110:23)

Why is it like that day you're saying though?

Ivan Rakeland (110:26)

So Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene's legislation that they promoted and then they voted on it and Trump signed it for the release of the Epstein files, had a 30 day window attached to it. It has to be released within 30 days.

Mike Kelly (110:39)

And they signed that, that 30 day.

Ivan Rakeland (110:40)

Deadline is December 19th.

Mike Kelly (110:42)

Got it.

Ivan Rakeland (110:42)

Okay, okay, okay, okay. So imagine you're, as I explained hypothetically, you're the President and Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and you're stuck with the dilemma of, oh shit, we're reviewing these Epstein files and I see this cabinet level official, this mega donor, this mega donor, this oof, oof. What are you gonna do?

Mike Kelly (111:09)

Probably not gonna release it. Right. If you're them.

Ivan Rakeland (111:13)

And so what, how do we force them to release it?

Mike Kelly (111:18)

Social media pressure.

Ivan Rakeland (111:20)

And what does that pressure do politically.

Mike Kelly (111:23)

Changes the votes next election?

Ivan Rakeland (111:26)

How about we do that sooner in the midterms? How would we do that sooner?

Mike Kelly (111:32)

Sooner than not.

Ivan Rakeland (111:33)

That's where I come into play. So we do it social media and we explain there's a constitutional process called impeachment.

Mike Kelly (111:40)

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (111:42)

And so we just had the vote where everyone except for one member of the House voted, except for Clay Higgins voted for the discharge petition, for the OR for the release of the Epstein files, and all hundred senators voted once they realized that there was four Republicans that were going to side with the Democrats. Everyone. How do you defend protecting this pedophile ring?

Mike Kelly (112:06)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (112:06)

You don't.

Mike Kelly (112:07)

You don't. Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (112:08)

It just doesn't work. I don't care what like blue or red district you're in.

Mike Kelly (112:12)

Yep.

Ivan Rakeland (112:13)

Because most of these people aren't pedophiles that are voters.

Mike Kelly (112:15)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (112:16)

I'd say over 90% of Americans are not pedophiles.

Mike Kelly (112:18)

I hope it's not high.

Ivan Rakeland (112:20)

Right?

Mike Kelly (112:21)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (112:22)

And so on this topic, we're gonna. I think on December 19th is gonna be interesting. My litmus test is if I see one letter redacted in that Epstein file release, fucking unacceptable.

Mike Kelly (112:36)

I mean, it's gonna.

Ivan Rakeland (112:37)

If one fucking letter is. If there's a black of one letter.

Mike Kelly (112:41)

That'S unacceptable, it's gonna happen. Let's be honest.

Ivan Rakeland (112:43)

I don't give a fuck.

Mike Kelly (112:44)

JFK files.

Ivan Rakeland (112:44)

I. You know what, you know how I compromise to my 100%. That's why I'm undefeated.

Mike Kelly (112:52)

But even let's say this impeachment gets pulled off, isn't it gonna be the same issue again?

Ivan Rakeland (112:57)

Hold up. We're still talking about it.

Mike Kelly (112:59)

Okay, let me hear it, Let me hear it.

Ivan Rakeland (113:01)

The suspense.

Mike Kelly (113:03)

You've thought about this, I can tell.

Ivan Rakeland (113:05)

So the House is made up of. This is devil's in the details on everything to be successful in anything in life. Right. So right now the House is made up to where Republicans have a four person member majority. So four Republicans side with all Democrats to impeach Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and hell, if they feel as though Donald Trump's behind covering up the Epstein stuff, they may do the same thing for him. Okay, let's just play out Pam Bondi and Cash Patel because they're the ones responsible for releasing it, right? Yeah, particularly Cash. Who do you think would be the four Republicans that initially do it? It would be the same ones that just pushed for the legislation that just had the press conference a few weeks ago. I was just Right. Standing right next to him in D.C. during the press conference. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Trump just shit all over her.

Mike Kelly (113:57)

Yep.

Ivan Rakeland (113:59)

She's gonna be ending her time as she's gonna resign it on January 5th. Why doesn't she put a motion forth on day 30 and say you didn't fucking comply? You shit all over me. You betrayed. I already listed some of the betrayals. You got Berla in there. You endorse Andrew Cuomo. You fucking. No accountability on anybody. So, like there's not, like, what's the ROI to the American voter for a Donald Trump? I haven't seen the ROI. I personally haven't. The J6ers got that pardon, so they have an ROI. But for me, the undefeated voter there, I haven't seen ROI yet. So, okay, you're not going to release the biggest black barrel ring that most people agree to. There has to be some accountability. So you're kind of an accessory to the fact after the fact at this point. And so you got Marjorie and Thomas Massie, because Chris Lacivita, who is the political wing, he heads up the PACs for Trump that receives the Miriam Adelson money to primary Thomas Massie. Why wouldn't he vote to impeach? He's the one that put forth and pushed for this legislation from the get go. For him to save face, like, it's just a continuing continuation of his fight. Right. So now you gotta find two more. You know, that there are still. Remember, Donald Trump was impeached the second time and 10 Republicans voted in that impeachment.

Mike Kelly (115:31)

Yep.

Ivan Rakeland (115:31)

And two are still in place.

Mike Kelly (115:33)

Which two?

Ivan Rakeland (115:34)

David Valadao from California.

Mike Kelly (115:37)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (115:38)

And Dan Newhouse from Washington.

Mike Kelly (115:41)

So there's your two.

Ivan Rakeland (115:41)

And they survived to reelections after they voted to impeach Donald Trump.

Mike Kelly (115:48)

There's your four. What a plan.

Ivan Rakeland (115:52)

And so what about when those, when the rest of the House Republican sees that the impeachment's inevitable, what do you think the rest of the Republicans do follow suit? Do they have an option? Are they going to go back to their constituents and say, I'm going to protect pedophiles?

Mike Kelly (116:13)

They won't have an option at that point.

Ivan Rakeland (116:14)

I don't think they have an option. And people hate me for even saying that this is a possibility. Like, hey, you're going against Trump. Like, I'm, I'm going for the truth. Wow.

Mike Kelly (116:25)

Wow, what a plan.

Ivan Rakeland (116:29)

But I'm not the one to implement it.

Mike Kelly (116:31)

Well, you got the connections to implement it. Right.

Ivan Rakeland (116:34)

I'm just making First Amendment sounds over here. That might be Censored.

Mike Kelly (116:39)

Yeah. Well, there's. There's been whispers of a potential cash impeachment, so you're not the first one to say that.

Ivan Rakeland (116:44)

So if that happens, who's up next? Andrew Bailey. Heard of him?

Mike Kelly (116:53)

I haven't, to be honest.

Ivan Rakeland (116:54)

He's the co. Deputy director of the FBI. We'll see how things play out there.

Mike Kelly (117:00)

Yeah, I'm sure.

Ivan Rakeland (117:01)

But that's December 19th. Let's go to January 3rd. Another, like, topic. Remember I talk about, like, look at all the landscape, figure out who's do who's not doing what.

Mike Kelly (117:10)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (117:10)

And then be like, I'm the guy. You know how you have tech scout tech advisors, right. In Silicon Valley? Because they've been there, done that, and they know the system and how to, like, plug and play. Because, you know, you got the hustle, you got the drive as a founder, but you just. There's just things that you don't know.

Mike Kelly (117:25)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (117:26)

And you need that guidance and advice. I feel like I'm like, the advisor, right? No one's asking for it. I just. I'm just trying to make a better situation. Like, truth will create transparency. Transparency creates accountability. Accountability punishes those that deserve it. Okay. Also known as fucking retribution.

Mike Kelly (117:52)

Hoodie's coming off.

Ivan Rakeland (117:54)

It's getting warm in here.

Mike Kelly (117:55)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (117:55)

Just getting warmed up, baby.

Mike Kelly (117:57)

All right, so January 3rd, January 2026. What's going to happen that day?

Ivan Rakeland (118:02)

So on January 3rd of odd years is when a new Congress comes into play.

Mike Kelly (118:08)

Odd years.

Ivan Rakeland (118:09)

Yeah.

Mike Kelly (118:10)

26 is an even year, though.

Ivan Rakeland (118:11)

I'm not. I'm not there yet. Okay, but good, you're listening. January of 3rd of 2025 was when the new Congress, 119 Congress started. Okay, so Capitol Police Board chairman for that year until January 3rd is the Senate Sergeant at Arms. On January 3rd of 2026, it'll be the House Sergeant at Arms. So right now, if you want to get to the truth of January 6th and expose it all, you gotta take all the communications and documents of the senior lawyer of the Capitol Police. His name is Tad Tobias. Remember I said 1500 people? I got them all. So this guy, Tad Tobias, spelled Dibiase, is. Let's see here. He is the most senior U.S. capitol Police officer that was there before January 6th. On January 6th, after January 6th and still there to this day, the only one. This is US Legislative Branch, Deep State number one.

Mike Kelly (119:16)

Sounds like a fake name. Todd Tobias.

Ivan Rakeland (119:18)

Thomas Aquinas Dubias is his fool's name.

Mike Kelly (119:22)

What a name.

Ivan Rakeland (119:23)

Yeah. So the vice president, J.D. vance, if you're listening in he might be. Guess what you can do. And you probably didn't even know this. You're the President of the Senate, remember? I'm a lawyer. Right. Constitutional law. So as the President of the Senate, you are the one that is the most senior constitutional actor within the US Senate body. Meaning you are technically the boss of the Senate Sergeant at Arms if you decide to take that role in going to the Senate chambers. To do that, you can order the chairman of the Capitol Police Board this year until January 3rd of the US Senate, the Senate Sergeant at Arms, Jennifer Hemingway. And tell her, hey, why don't you order the U.S. capitol Police General Counsel to release everything, all of his communications and all of his work product related to January 6th before on after. Specifically all the communications with the executive branch, FBI, DOJ, U.S. attorney's office, DHS, Metropolitan Police Department, and any communications you may have had with folks like Nancy Pelosi, her family members, her staff, Jamie raskin or the J6 committee. When you do that, they're all fucked. Let's just say I may or may not have seen some of that.

Mike Kelly (120:46)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (120:47)

But we got to go through the legal process to release it. So then you'll see the Nancy Pelosi fed direction.

Mike Kelly (120:56)

Wow. I don't know if he's gonna do that, but that sounds crazy.

Ivan Rakeland (121:00)

You see why I'm censored.

Mike Kelly (121:02)

Yeah, I can see why.

Ivan Rakeland (121:04)

That's just one little example.

Mike Kelly (121:06)

Yeah, you're not afraid to call it.

Ivan Rakeland (121:07)

Anyway, so January 6th rolls around 2026. That's a five year mark. Yeah, that's the. For some things that's a statute of limitations.

Mike Kelly (121:14)

Wow. Five years.

Ivan Rakeland (121:15)

Five years.

Mike Kelly (121:16)

It's been five years.

Ivan Rakeland (121:17)

And so maybe it is time for American good Samaritans to help to cash Patel out once he's dealt with for non release of the Epstein files. To go ahead and ensure that the rest of his organization follows him out the door bars.

Mike Kelly (121:34)

Well, it's been two hours.

Ivan Rakeland (121:35)

And then January 17th.

Mike Kelly (121:37)

We got more.

Ivan Rakeland (121:38)

This will be it.

Mike Kelly (121:40)

I know this.

Ivan Rakeland (121:42)

Guess what? Remember the lawfare that was done?

Mike Kelly (121:44)

Yeah.

Ivan Rakeland (121:45)

The assassination attempts. The actual assassinations of Charlie Kirk.

Mike Kelly (121:49)

Yep.

Ivan Rakeland (121:51)

You think the Democrats are going to stop?

Mike Kelly (121:54)

Probably not.

Ivan Rakeland (121:55)

What if they take control over Virginia in the form of the Governor and the Attorney General and the district Attorneys known as Commonwealth's Attorneys in Northern Virginia. That that's where almost the entire cabinet staff workers within this administration live or work. So imagine you have a Fanny Willis, an Alvin Bragg in Northern Virginia, and a Letitia James, the AG in New York as the Attorney General In Virginia.

Mike Kelly (122:27)

Oh God.

Ivan Rakeland (122:28)

And Gavin Newsom times a trillion squared as the governor of Virginia.

Mike Kelly (122:34)

Oh my gosh. I would never live there.

Ivan Rakeland (122:36)

That's happening on January 17th. What heard of John Brennan?

Mike Kelly (122:41)

I haven't.

Ivan Rakeland (122:42)

Former CIA director.

Mike Kelly (122:44)

Okay.

Ivan Rakeland (122:45)

That's behind all the treason going on and the coup. And the color. You saw Kaidi's video went viral.

Mike Kelly (122:51)

Which one?

Ivan Rakeland (122:52)

World Defender 45 about the color revolution.

Mike Kelly (122:54)

Last couple days I haven't seen that.

Ivan Rakeland (122:56)

She's like a three minute summary of my 40 hour master class.

Mike Kelly (123:02)

Got it.

Ivan Rakeland (123:02)

Got it. Of the last 11 years.

Mike Kelly (123:04)

I'll check it out for sure.

Ivan Rakeland (123:06)

Of what we're going through since 2016. She goes back is basically 2014. The. The incoming governor of Virginia, Democrat Abby Spamberger is.

Mike Kelly (123:18)

What are these names?

Ivan Rakeland (123:19)

Protege. Abigail Spamberger is a protege of the former director of the CIA, John Brennan. John Brennan was the guy that ordered drone strikes with Barry Hussein on an American citizen without due process in America. Merck Overseas.

Mike Kelly (123:35)

Okay. Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (123:38)

This is the guy that his protege is going to be the governor of Virginia.

Mike Kelly (123:42)

Holy crap.

Ivan Rakeland (123:43)

And the Attorney General in text messages released was calling on the basically murking his political Republican opponent, Speaker of the House in Virginia, Richmond, and his children.

Mike Kelly (123:55)

Wow.

Ivan Rakeland (123:55)

That's who's going to be the Attorney General. So this administration has squandered a year and now they're fucked. I think on January 17th.

Mike Kelly (124:05)

Jesus.

Ivan Rakeland (124:06)

So you want the solution now that we've laid out two hours of the problem? Yeah, it's easy. Courage, maximum authority. We have all the evidence. I have the list of the people. It's called the Deep State target list. If you want to just action a few people. I mean, Nancy Pelosi, John Brennan, James Comey, TAD Tobias, James Baker. Those are five good ones to start with. And then if you're wanting to go full scale, you go 350. If you want to go to the max, you go about 1500 people. Just mass arrests. There's that many by January 17th. Otherwise, good luck. I'll just sit back and watch and say I told you so.

Mike Kelly (124:50)

Wow. Dude. Thanks for your time. I've only done a few to our podcast, so that's a compliment.

Ivan Rakeland (124:57)

Did I keep your attention?

Mike Kelly (124:58)

You did. You did. I could talk to you for hours. I just got another guest waiting. But yeah. Where could people find you, brother?

Ivan Rakeland (125:04)

I'm on substack. Ivanrakeland.substack.com if you want deep dive analysis. If you're a nerd like I am and I can kind of lay it out of all these different things that I've talked about with all the names and players. If you want my just daily musings where I, you know, at the end of the day, I'm a poster. But I got receipts back with those. That's on X.

Mike Kelly (125:22)

Those are the deadliest.

Ivan Rakeland (125:23)

Ivan Rakeland. And you can come see me in person.

Mike Kelly (125:27)

Cool.

Ivan Rakeland (125:27)

If you're a trader, good luck. If you're not, I'd be happy to meet. Talk. Oh, yeah. Rumble, X Telegram, substack. Where else?

Mike Kelly (125:37)

So, Instagram, right? Soon.

Ivan Rakeland (125:40)

Oh, wait, you're going to get me to a million on Instagram.

Mike Kelly (125:43)

I don't know about a million. Let's start with 10k.

Ivan Rakeland (125:45)

I'm already at 10k.

Mike Kelly (125:47)

All right, let's start with 25.

Ivan Rakeland (125:48)

Okay.

Mike Kelly (125:48)

Yeah, let's start with 25.

Ivan Rakeland (125:50)

We'll go from there. Wait, what's yours?

Mike Kelly (125:51)

They're 12 mil.

Ivan Rakeland (125:52)

No, but what's the account?

Mike Kelly (125:54)

Oh, Sean. Mike Kelly. I'll add you as a collaborator. Mike Kelly on the YouTube.

Ivan Rakeland (125:57)

Do some reels. Yeah, we got to do something explosive, though.

Mike Kelly (126:00)

Yeah, we will. We will.

Ivan Rakeland (126:02)

Okay.

Mike Kelly (126:03)

See you guys.

Ivan Rakeland (126:04)

Let's go. Castrate.

Mike Kelly (126:05)

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