Jason Shurka: You’re Living Longer… But You’re Not Healthier | DSH #1778

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Podcast Summary: Jason Shurka: You’re Living Longer… But You’re Not Healthier | Digital Social Hour #1778

Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Jason Shurka

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Episode Overview

In this thought-provoking episode, host Sean Kelly is joined by Jason Shurka to challenge mainstream health narratives. Shurka discusses the difference between lifespan and life expectancy, critiques the shortcomings of Western medicine and “Big Pharma,” and advocates for energetic and holistic approaches to healing, notably through light system technology. The conversation explores personal anecdotes, ancient longevity, and the intersection between mind, body, and spirit in true wellness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lifespan vs. Life Expectancy (00:00, 18:38, 20:29)

• Lifespan Has Not Increased: Shurka clarifies that while more people live to old age due to decreased early mortality, the actual maximum human lifespan has not increased.
  • “There are actually more people who live till 100, 100 years ago than there are today. That's a fact...” (00:00)
• Quality of Life is Decreasing: Medical advances mean people are living longer, but not necessarily healthier lives.
  • “Quality of life isn't increasing, it's decreasing... There's a difference between life and life expectancy. We need to understand that difference.” (00:20:18)
• Critical Distinction: Life expectancy is skewed by fewer deaths at a young age, not by people living healthier into extreme old age.

2. The Light System Technology (01:03 – 02:43, 03:45)

• Introduction to Light System: Shurka describes the technology as advanced red and full-spectrum light therapy that fosters the body's natural healing.
  • “It’s a system of lights... full spectrum light therapy... helping the body heal itself. It used to be called ‘woowoo.’ Now there's a lot of research backing it up.” (01:03)
• Electro Impedance Spectroscopy:
  • “In just one hour of exposure, it increases your electrical conductivity in your cells by 80%. An increase of 80% in one hour is nearly unheard of, and it's doing it non-invasively.” (02:03, 02:12)
• Coherence Over Placebo: The technology works on energetic fields, not reliant on belief—animals have benefited, which precludes placebo explanations.
  • “When you have an animal healing itself... There’s no placebo going on here.” (03:45)

3. Stories of Healing & Testimonials (05:15 – 07:04; 08:58 – 09:43)

• Personal Dog Story: Shurka shares a moving story of reviving his gravely ill dog with the help of the light system.
  • “I took that pyramid. She slept around it for a month... Today she's not just alive, she's thriving.” (06:03 – 06:49)
• Human and Animal Testimonies: The technology purportedly helps people and animals worldwide, including for PTSD and cancer remission.

4. East Meets West: Integrative Healing Philosophies (03:08, 22:08)

• Eastern vs. Western Medicine: Shurka supports a blend of approaches but warns against jumping to Western interventions first.
  • “I think we go the western side a little bit too fast and it's better to go Eastern first and use the Western as a last resort.” (03:08)
  • “I'm for Western medicine in the right times… but why are you doing [chemo] as the first thing?” (22:08)

5. The Systemic Problems in Healthcare (13:47 – 16:36, 17:45 – 18:30)

• Big Pharma & Systemic Conflicts:
  • “It's like... essentially, it's a bribery program. Right... These doctors are making, in some cases an extra million dollars a year for essentially being... an affiliate of certain products that, in my opinion, should be illegal.” (13:47 – 14:19)
• Doctors Are Good, Trapped People: The guest empathizes with doctors caught in financial and systemic traps.
  • “Doctors are good people... but for a doctor to then realize that the system that they willingly went into may not be the system they thought, is very hard for them to face.” (17:49 – 18:30)

6. The Foundations of Health & Root-Cause Healing (14:38, 14:59)

• Personal Empowerment: Emphasizes changing water, food, thoughts, and speech to create true health.
  • “People got to change the water they're drinking, the food they're eating, the thoughts they're thinking, the words they're speaking.” (14:38)
• Root Causes vs. Symptom Treatment: Consistently argues for addressing fundamental causes, not just symptoms.

7. Data & Societal Trends (15:00 – 15:22)

• Alarming Statistics:
  • “The third leading cause of death, Sean, is the medical system itself. That means that in the top three killers is the thing that's supposed to save you.” (15:00)
  • “Autism used to be 1 in 10,000. It's now 1 in 40. In some cases, it's 1 in 12 in Cali. These things need to change.” (15:10)

8. Longevity in Ancient Times (22:20 – 26:59)

• Biblical Lifespans and Diet Shift: Shurka explores ancient and biblical claims of extreme longevity and hypothesizes that a shift to eating meat and changes in environment shortened human life.
  • “Before Noah's Ark, they said people lived till 5, 6, 7, 8 hundred... The story goes... after [the Ark], it went down to 180, then 120... What changed...They started eating meat.” (23:29 – 25:01)
  • “I'm not saying that meat's bad... I'm just saying it's an interesting point. There was one thing that changed.” (25:07–25:21)
• Environmental and Spiritual Factors: Clean environment, diet, mindset, and spiritual practice as prerequisites for radical longevity.

9. Pathways to Get Involved (09:47, 27:34)

• Accessing the Technology: Interested listeners can find global wellness centers at thelightsystems.com.
  • “There's a button that says, find a center near you... Unified Healing has hundreds of wellness centers around the world.” (09:47)
• Home and Center Products: Light system tech is available for both personal and commercial use—including pyramids, cubes, spheres, and a high-end chair touted as particularly effective.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lifespan:
  • “There are actually more people who live to 100, 100 years ago than there are today. That's a fact...” — Jason Shurka (00:00)
• On Light System Results:
  • “In just one hour of exposure, it increases your electrical conductivity in your cells by 80%.” — Jason Shurka (02:03)
• On Western vs. Eastern Medicine:
  • “The western side would just take a hammer, break the light, and say, you're good. That didn't fix the engine.” — Jason Shurka (04:02)
• On Root-Cause Healing:
  • “How do we get more people to not just break the light and alleviate a symptom, but to actually treat the root cause of the issue?” — Jason Shurka (04:12)
• On Pharma & Medical Education:
  • “They control the banks, they control the medical curriculum, and they control ... legal drug dealing… under different names and corporations. That is a mafia, my friend.” — Jason Shurka (15:00)
• On Autonomy:
  • “People need to wake up and stop blindly following their doctor. I'm not saying their doctor is bad, but their doctor might be wrong.” — Jason Shurka (15:10)
• On Longevity and Clean Living:
  • “If we could take that into consideration, I believe that there are people that have lived that long and are living that long now... They're just trying to live.” — Jason Shurka (26:16)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:00 – Lifespan vs. Life Expectancy
• 01:03 – Introduction of the Light System
• 02:03 – Results of System Use, Cellular Conductivity
• 03:08 – Eastern vs. Western Approaches
• 05:15 – Animal Healing Testimony
• 06:03 – 06:49 – Story of Shurka’s Rescue Dog
• 09:47 – How to Get Involved, Find a Center Near You
• 13:47 – 16:36 – Big Pharma, Conflicts of Interest, Systemic Critique
• 15:00 – 15:22 – Shocking US Health & Wellness Statistics
• 18:38, 20:29 – Lifespan Data, Blue Zones, Drug Dependency
• 22:20 – 26:59 – Ancient Longevity, Dietary Theories, Environmental Factors
• 27:34 – Call to Action & Wrapping Up

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Candid, Unfiltered: The tone is frank, occasionally polemic, but always with a desire to spark critical thought.
• Optimistic Yet Cautionary: Despite strong critiques of mainstream health, Shurka’s message remains hopeful—people can reclaim agency and healing is possible.

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Useful for anyone curious about alternative health, longevity research, and the underlying issues with contemporary medicine, this episode is packed with personal stories, theoretical reflections, and actionable invitations to explore new paths to wellness.

Transcript

[Jason Stroka]

Lifespan has not increased. There are actually more people who live till 100. They call them centurions. I believe there are more people who live till 100, 100 years ago than there are today. That's a fact. The difference is there are less people that are dying when they're 30, and they're now living till they're 65, 70, 75, 80, and so on and so forth. It's not because they're healthier. It's because we have drugs to do that. Quality of life isn't increasing, it's decreasing. But just because more people are living longer doesn't mean that suddenly Everybody's living till 100, 120, and they're great. There's a difference between life and life expectancy. We need to understand that difference.

[Sean]

All right, guys, here. We're with Jason Stroka again. Good to see you, bro.

[Jason Stroka]

It's good to see you again, man. Thank you.

[Sean]

Been almost two years. Yeah. Crazy.

[Jason Stroka]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You were one of my favorite episodes.

[Jason Stroka]

Thank you. We actually dove pretty deep into that one.

[Sean]

We went. We went off. You brought the big pyramid. Now we got the smaller one. But 100, bro. You pulled up with that big one that day, dude. Could you. I guess people probably need a refresher on what this actually does. Sure.

[Jason Stroka]

Yeah. So what you're looking at over here is called the light system technology. I think it's a very fitting name because it is a system of lights. But to simplify it, think like red light therapy. That's something that's being adopted all over the world now, Red light therapy, but beyond that, so it's full spectrum light therapy that's really using light as a modality to help the body heal itself. So it used to be called Woowoo. Now there's a lot of research backing it up, including this technology, and a lot of people are starting to adopt it all around the world now.

[Sean]

Yeah. What type of research has been done on this so far?

[Jason Stroka]

So there's been something called. It's. There's a method called electro impedance spectroscopy, which basically checks the impedance of electricity. So the resistance of electricity through the cells in your body, the less impedance, the more flow, the more flow, the better. What this technology, the light system has been found to do, which is pretty insane when you look at it and don't really understand what you're looking at. The science has shown that in just one hour of exposure, so you're getting a lot more than that right now.

[Sean]

But can it reach me from all the way there?

[Jason Stroka]

Yes, absolutely. So in just one hour of exposure, it increases your electrical conductivity in your cells by 80%.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

Now the reason why that's so important is because your cells work on electricity mitochondria in your cells, which is like the powerhouse of your cell. It's what generates that energy and electricity. And when you're not generating enough electricity and energy, you end up getting sick. An increase of 80% in one hour is nearly unheard of. And it's doing it non invasively. So you don't need to be hooked up to anything. You just need to be around the coherent light. It creates a coherent field of energy. Your body takes that on and then expresses coherency and balance as opposed to the opposite.

[Sean]

That's crazy. Yeah. I know people that have gone because you have physical locations now.

[Jason Stroka]

So the light system has a few hundred locations around the world now. My job is more so a voluntary aspect. I like speaking about it, advocating for it, because I've seen what it's capable of doing and I want the world to be aware of it.

[Sean]

Yeah. I've had people go to your locations, get a scan before and after, and their chakras get fixed. Like all this stuff.

[Jason Stroka]

And the chakras is one side because there's Eastern, then there's western medicine.

[Sean]

Right.

[Jason Stroka]

And by the way, I'm a supporter and proponent of both. I think there's a place for western. I think there's a place for Eastern. I think we go the western side a little bit too fast and it's better to go Eastern first and use the Western as a last resort. The reason why I bring that up is because when somebody hears chakras, they're like, if they're the western side of the equation, they're like, what are you talking about? Well, the translation of that is your nervous system, your heart, your lungs. There's been measurements on that as well to show, I mean, remission and cancer. That's. That's something that's unheard of without certain things that need to be done, according to the medical establishment. And yet we're seeing it happening over and over again. We're also seeing it with animals.

[Sean]

Yeah, so.

[Jason Stroka]

So when you have an animal healing itself. Cause that's what I like calling it. You know, there's no placebo going on here. It's beyond the power of thought of what this technology is actually doing.

[Sean]

That's exciting, man. Cause in the Western culture, I guess surgery is, they, they like pushing that. As soon as you get a diagnosis.

[Jason Stroka]

It'S like I mean, take a car, your engine light comes on. The western side would just take a hammer, break the light, and say, you're good.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

That didn't fix the engine.

[Sean]

Right.

[Jason Stroka]

You gotta fix the engine if you want the light to actually go away for real purposes, not because you just broke the light on your dashboard. So my goal in sharing all of this is how do we get more people to not just break the light and alleviate a symptom, but to actually treat the root cause of the issue.

[Sean]

Yeah. So is this healing you without your mind even realizing it? How does it work with the conscious and the subconscious?

[Jason Stroka]

Well, again, take animals. So consciousness does play a role in everything, whether it's Western medicine, Eastern medicine, anything in between. If I believe that something will help me, chances are the probability will increase of it helping me. Now that's the placebo effect. The question is, is there an objective truth going on here beyond the power of your own thought and the power of your mind? And again, that's where animals come in. Placebo doesn't work the same way with an animal because when you bring an animal in, you don't say, hey, dog, this is what you're about to experience. It doesn't understand that it's still conscious. It's just conscious in different ways. So it's. It's beneficial for the mind to be a part of the equation. It's not necessary.

[Sean]

So this has been used on animals.

[Jason Stroka]

My animals are perfect example. When I got. We have a toy poodle right there, actually. And when we got her, she was one pound.

[Sean]

One pound.

[Jason Stroka]

One pound. Now she's five pounds and she's six months old. So this was a few months ago. Fresh story.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

And when I got her, everything was fine. We. We get, we get home from the store. I didn't know that. You shouldn't buy a dog from a store. Now, I know you want to go straight to the breeder, but this was all new to me. So I get the dog. They tell me she's healthy. A day later, she starts collapsing. Hard time breathing, don't know what's going on. Go to the hospital. Turns out, long story short, she was in the hospital for a period of 10 days. This was like, right after she was like a month in a period of 10 days in the hospital, they gave her a 20 to 30% chance of living.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

And she was oxygen dependent, so I had to keep her in an oxygen chamber just to keep her alive.

[Sean]

She.

[Jason Stroka]

And when I wanted to transfer her from one hospital to another, I couldn't because she would have died on the way. So I had to get a special ambulance that had a special oxygen chamber that only took her out of oxygen for, like, five seconds at a time to be able to transfer. Transfer from one hospital to another. And all the doctors told me, the dog's not going to make it. Just say goodbye. And I. I didn't accept that. I did everything in my power to keep her alive. Today she's driving. But what did I do? I took that pyramid. She slept around it for a month. It didn't move from where she was now. We did a lot of other things. We did give her, you know, nebulizers and things like that to help with her lungs. So I can't tell you for certain this is the only thing that she did.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

But she was around that 24 7. And today she's not just alive, she's driving.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

So I've seen that with my dog. I've seen it with many other dogs. And there are testimonials on the website on thelifesystems.com where people are sharing their own personal human stories, and people are sharing their stories with their animals, whether it be a cat, a dog, even horses. It's insane.

[Sean]

That's crazy. So it works on some big animals, too.

[Jason Stroka]

Big animals.

[Sean]

Horses. Get up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. You've been traveling a lot, man. Last time I talked to you, you were going all over the world.

[Jason Stroka]

I'm doing my best. I've been traveling, going on tours. We have many, many wellness centers around the world, dozens of countries around the world. So mainly my travels are focused on that. Going from wellness center to wellness center, doing events, teaching people and helping them reclaim their power. Because right now, even the event that we're at right now, sure, it's political, but it does have a message. And that message, beyond politics, is reclaim your power. Right. We're seeing big Pharma now. Things are changing. A lot of people are changing the way that they see it and accept it, and they're not accepting it as much. They're looking for alternatives. That's my message. I want people to not just be healthier, but to treat it from the root cause. And that's not a physical thing. And this goes back to our past podcast. It's an energetic thing. It's a spiritual thing. It's a conscious thing. And one of the reasons why I love this technology so much is because it works on your. It works on you energetically. What you're seeing scroll on that screen is not just A random code. They're positive affirmations that are encoded in a specific way. So now when you're spending time around that, and we've seen this with Dr. Masaru, remote, the water experiment, when you have positive affirmations towards water, that water, and there have been studies on this, will restructure its molecular formation. Well, you and me are made up of over 70% water. And when I intend positively towards you, and that's a piece of what this technology is doing with what it's scrolling, it is literally restructuring the molecular formation of water in your body. And when you have more coherent structures of water in the body, energy flows better, you think clearer, you take more positive actions. And that's ultimately the world I want to see. So that's why I support it so much.

[Sean]

That's beautiful, man. Yeah, I'm all about positivity. There's a big mental health crisis right now. Do you think something like this could help with, like, mental health, trauma, stuff like that?

[Jason Stroka]

I would say I know it can, because I've seen what it could do people, veterans with ptsd, dpd, ptsd, they're using this technology around the United States, and it's helping them beyond measure. The testimonials that I get, people just send me random messages saying, jason, I saw your podcast with so and so I went to experience it. Thank you so much. This is what I experience. And I always see outside of the physical ailments that are then being rebalanced, because that's really the proper word. There are emotional and mental imbalances. So anxiety, depression, ptsd, all of these things. I can't tell you. It works 100% of the time, because there's nothing that works 100% of the time. But it works to such a large degree that warrants me traveling the world and dedicating my life to it.

[Sean]

That's incredible, man. How could people watch this get involved?

[Jason Stroka]

So, number one, if they go to the website, the Light Systems, in plural, the light systems.com, they could definitely check that out. Beyond that, on that website, there's a button that says, find a center near you, and that will bring you to a website. That's my organization called Unified Healing. So Unified Healing has hundreds of wellness centers around the world. It has the light system technology and many other technologies as well. The reason why I say that is because it's not just this technology that I support. I do support it to a large degree, but there are many technologies out there that do incredible things. The reason why I speak about this so confidently and with such, you know, passion, is because it can help a lot of people at the same time. Whereas other technologies, as great as they are, they're generally one on one instead of working on groups at a time. And we got a lot of sick people in this country. We got a lot of sick people in the world, and we want to help them heal on a very large collective level. So, again, thelightsystems.com is where they can learn more. You can get the technology for your home. The pyramid, the cube, the sphere, the chair, and the bigger systems you could get for your home, but they're generally for a bigger wellness.

[Sean]

Oh, you got a chair, too?

[Jason Stroka]

Oh, the chair is probably the most powerful form of products that the light system owns. Really, it's incredible.

[Sean]

So it's the same thing as that, but in a chair.

[Jason Stroka]

So you have the technology surrounding you. It looks like there's, like, futuristic bed.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

You have the technology surrounding you. And the chair is actually from a company called Zvago. It's a several thousand dollars chair if you were to buy it on its own, built by the top chiropractors in the world. And it's not just the chair. It's incredible in terms of what it does. The angles it puts you in, the massage, the heat, the. Everything that it actually involves is pretty awesome.

[Sean]

So do you even get sick anymore?

[Jason Stroka]

So, believe it or not, I think I ate something the other day. You probably hear it a little bit in my voice where I don't know what. I never get sick. And something happened where I was just dead for a day or two. Now, I was in Vegas at the time, so I. Usually at my home, I have the technology around me. But what did I do? There was a conference that the technology was in, so. And it happened to be in the hotel that I was staying in.

[Sean]

That's funny.

[Jason Stroka]

So I went downstairs, I laid in the chair. In 30 minutes, I still have a little nasal, but I was out. Like, I was out cold. 20, 30 minutes, everything changed for me. And that's my own personal experience.

[Sean]

The seed oils, bro.

[Jason Stroka]

I hope that stops too.

[Sean]

Yeah, I don't think it will, honestly.

[Jason Stroka]

We'll see. What. What Bobby Kennedy does. He's a good friend. He's doing great work.

[Sean]

And he probably uses this too, right?

[Jason Stroka]

He does, he does. And it's incredible in terms of, again, what. What everybody that's been using it has been seeing.

[Sean]

So I know he had a parasite in his brain at one point.

[Jason Stroka]

He had a lot of interesting things, things that I I'm not going to speak about on this podcast, but I've had the pleasure of. I mean, he slept in my home a few times close to my family. Great guy with what he does. I'm a supporter of his work. And listen what the guy's dealing with right now on a completely different topic. Yeah, it's a mafia. And there are some people that see it and they say, well, why isn't Bobby Kennedy doing a better job? Well, if you only knew the types of things that this guy is dealing against. I mean, look at his family. They killed every important person in his life. And he still goes full force and says, let's do this thing. He doesn't need to. He's not, you know, he's well off. He doesn't need to do this work. He wants to do this work. And that's when I respect somebody, even with. Again, not to get political, but take Donald Trump. Whether you like him or hate him, it really doesn't matter. At the end of the day, you know, that he's not after the money because he's a billionaire. And that's one thing that regardless of if you support how he speaks or what he says, you know, that he's not in there for corrupt financial purposes, because what does he need if the guy's a multibillionaire?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

So it gives me some hope. When you see somebody doing something that they don't need to do, I support that person more because I know they're in it for different reasons and not the same reasons that, you know, maybe the Clintons were in it for where they came in with not a lot of money and suddenly they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Sean]

It's a valid point, especially in the health industry. You look at big pharma, where the incentives are, it's. It's come a long way from what it used to be.

[Jason Stroka]

Oh, yeah. And it's like. I mean, essentially, it's a bribery program. Right. I don't want to say too much on this for obvious reasons, but, you know, you're seeing kickbacks when you do or give certain things to children. These doctors are making, in some cases an extra million dollars a year for essentially being a broker, an agent and an affiliate of certain products that, in my opinion, should be illegal because that's a conflict of interest. Even if the doctor is against what they're doing, they may do it because they want to be able to go on that vacation with their family every year, so on and so forth, or.

[Sean]

At least disclose it Like, I don't think anyone would have a problem if they knew you were making money off it.

[Jason Stroka]

Yes. But even when they disclose it, they disclose it and then they try and justify it by saying, well, you know, I am getting a kickback, but it's really good for you. Well, is it? Because that's a good point, you know. Is it?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

There's so much I could say on.

[Sean]

That, but there's a lot of fraud and.

[Jason Stroka]

Yeah. And that's, again, the exact reason why I'm doing what I'm doing around the world, why I wanted to come speak to you today. Because we got to wake people up. With or without this technology, people got to wake up, people got to change the water they're drinking, the food they're eating, the thoughts they're thinking, the words they're speaking. And when you change that from the base of it all, you will see a healthier world.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

Right now, the leading cause of death in America is heart disease. The second leading cause of death in America is cancer. The third leading cause of death, Sean, is the medical system itself. That means that in the top three killers is the thing that's supposed to save you. And that's a very scary statistic. Autism used to be 1 in 10,000. It's now 1 in 40. In some cases, it's 1 in 12 in Cali. These things need to change. And for that to change, people need to wake up and stop blindly following their doctor. I'm not saying their doctor is bad, but their doctor might be wrong. Their doctor might have been taught by somebody that has a different conflict of interest, like the people that are selling the drugs, who, by the way, happen to be the same people who write the medical curriculums that teach the doctors what they're going to do, who also, by the way, happen to be the same people who gave the doctor a loan to go to medical school. And the people I'm talking about, just one of them, it's called the Rockefeller foundation. They control the banks, they control the medical curriculum, and they control the physician's desk reference of what I like to call legal drug dealing, what drug the doctor is going to give, and then they also give the kickback. They control every aspect under different names and corporations. That is a mafia, my friend.

[Sean]

It's almost like you're. You're hooked for life at that point. You are, if you want to be a doctor. Right.

[Jason Stroka]

And even if you wake up to what you're doing, what are you going to do when you're half a million Dollars in debt. Because if you speak out, you got a problem, your license going to be pulled. Now what?

[Sean]

Right?

[Jason Stroka]

You don't have any money to pay it back. So now you're enslaved into a system that you may even know is a poor system, but you have no choice but to keep going.

[Podcast Narrator]

There's this new technology floating around that people cannot stop talking about. It's called the light system. Before you roll your eyes, it's not some gadget you strap on or supplement that promises the world. Every once in a while I come across something that actually stops me in my tracks. And the light system is one of those things. This isn't a supplement. It's not a biohack. It's a full on energy environment built to help your mind and body synchronize, recharge and operate at a higher level. It uses light patterns, color frequencies and coherent energy fields, all the stuff that your body naturally responds to to create a coherent, energetic field around you. People are saying they feel more clear, more centered, more alive in their environment. And honestly, the science behind it is fascinating as I've seen a lot of wellness tech. But the numbers coming out on this new study of the light system are actually insane. Researchers measured human in chic cells before and after sitting in front of a system. And get this, a 30 minute session boosted cellular conductivity by 61%. The study even showed increased conductivity and isolated DNA which is associated with stronger structure and better repair pathways. The result? More clarity, more balance and more alignment. You could save 500 now if you go to the lightsystems.com and use discount code.

[Sean]

Sean, that sucks because these doctors want to heal people.

[Jason Stroka]

Doctors are good people. They're not bad people. Yeah, they dedicate their lives. A lot of my best friends are doctors. They dedicate their lives to healing people. They dedicate their lives to helping people. Some of them make good money, some of them don't. All of them are in debt for a long period of time and they're all in school for about 10 years. That's not an easy thing to do for a doctor to then realize that the system that they willingly went into may not be the system they thought that it was, is very hard for them to face. I mean, do we really expect every doctor to realize that and say, I'm done here, let's go be Jesus and you know, speak the truth to the world? A lot of them are afraid. A lot of them are not going to risk their lives. And I have compassion for those people, but I'm going to speak.

[Sean]

I mean, something's got to change. The health span is dropping. Soon it'll be in the 60s for males. Right now it's 71 in the US for males.

[Jason Stroka]

Yep.

[Sean]

Isn't that crazy?

[Jason Stroka]

Well, it's interesting because there's lifespan and there's life expectancy and most people don't understand the difference between the two. So. Most people. And there's a book called the China Study. If you haven't read it, read it. It's incredible. And it talks about the myth between life expectancy and lifespan. People think that lifespan has been increasing over the past 100, 200 years because we've been getting more advanced. That's not true. Life expectancy has been. I'm sorry, life expectancy has been increasing. Lifespan has not necessarily been increasing. Now, what do I mean by that? The reason why life expectancy has been increasing is because less people are dying when they're 30.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

Why did they die when they were 30? Not because of cancer, because they got bit by an animal, they didn't have antibiotics, they got an infection, they died, some natural disaster, sanitation problems, so on and so forth. Not the same diseases that we're seeing today. You go and ask your grandma if she knew any autistic person growing up in school, she's going to say no. You ask your grandma when she was growing up, she knew anybody with Alzheimer's, she's going to say, maybe one today. It's like everybody, so many people are getting it. So lifespan has not increased. There are actually more people who live till a hundred. They call them centurions. I believe there are more people who live till a hundred, a hundred years ago than there are today.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

That's a fact.

[Sean]

Holy crap.

[Jason Stroka]

The difference is there are less people that are dying when they're 30 and they're now living till they're 65, 70, 75, 80 and so on and so forth. It's not because they're healthier, it's because we have drugs to do that.

[Sean]

Right.

[Jason Stroka]

Quality of life isn't increasing, it's decreasing. But just because more people are living longer doesn't mean that suddenly Everybody's living till 100, 120, and they're great.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

There's a difference between lifespan and life expectancy. We need to understand that difference. Right now we have blue zones in the world. There are more and more of them coming up because people are understanding what they are. But if we keep going in the trajectory that we're going with the food that we're Eating and the water that we're drinking and the stressors that we're allowing to be imposed upon us. Those blue zones will be diminished and we may live till 90, but we're essentially going to be cyborgs. The average American is on six pharmaceutical drugs per day. That's no way to live. That's just getting by. That's not living.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

That's surviving.

[Sean]

That's not.

[Jason Stroka]

And that's not the way that I want to see this world.

[Sean]

No. I hope to never be on them. God will push now. Are you on any.

[Jason Stroka]

No.

[Sean]

Well done.

[Jason Stroka]

Never have been. As a matter of fact, I think I'm one of the few in this world that have never gotten anything in my body.

[Sean]

No. Antibiotics.

[Jason Stroka]

Antibiotics, yes. I mean, the things that I'm not going to say here. Yes, yes, yes.

[Sean]

Well done.

[Jason Stroka]

Never in my life.

[Sean]

Early on, or did your parents know?

[Jason Stroka]

My parents.

[Sean]

Wow. Was that a religious thing or they just.

[Jason Stroka]

No, I think they just had brains to think and eyes to see because.

[Sean]

Back then it was pretty rare.

[Jason Stroka]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Now a lot more people are waking up and saying, I'm staying away from all that.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

But no, from. I mean, I'm 28 today. Never had anything in my life. Antibiotics, I think only two or three times. It's because I. I had to go through a surgery.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

I dislocated the shoulder. And you don't want to mess with those things. So, again, I am for Western medicine in the right times. Right. I'm also not against chemo if that's the last resort. But why are you doing as. As the first thing that's like. If me and you have a conflict, the first thing I do is drop a nuke. Why would I do that? Let's try and mediate.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

Let's try and resolve. Let's try to figure out all these things. If you have no other choice and everybody's going to die, fine. Take drastic measures. No problem. But that's the first thing we do now in the medical system, and it's a problem.

[Sean]

Do you think humans have a finite amount of years to live? Because you hear the bible argument of 120. You hear the telomere argument as well. Do you think 120 is that number?

[Jason Stroka]

Nope. I think that we've lived hundreds of years in the past. I am not a religious man. I do come from a Jewish background. I've read both the Old Testament and the New Testament. I have yet to read the Quran. I would like to read the Quran. I just haven't Gotten there yet. And I read it for my own understanding of, like, what is this really saying? You know, outside of the interpretations of what religious leaders and all that are saying, how can I best understand it from my consciousness? Not that it's the best out there, but how can I understand it in my own way? And, you know, you go in the Old Testament, and in the Old Testament, it speaks about many different people before the time of Noah's Ark that lived till 600, 700, 800, 900. And growing up, I went to, like, you know, Sunday school, Jewish school, whatever. And I would always argue with the rabbis because I like challenging it. You know, I want to try and poke holes and see what we could do. So they always said, jason, they didn't actually live till that long. It was just a different measurement of time.

[Sean]

Okay?

[Jason Stroka]

So I said, well, is that true? Let me actually look into this and see what I can make of it. Here's what I got down to. Before Noah's Ark, they said that everybody lived till, you know, not everybody, but there were people living till 5, 6, 7, 8, hundred, having kids when they were like 3, 400. And it would make sense logically that maybe they were counting time differently. But here's what they don't talk about, and here's the proof that they weren't counting time differently. The story of Abraham and Sarah. They couldn't have kids. The. The story, and I'm paraphrasing or the story goes, an angel came and blessed them, and Sarah had a baby when she was like 90 or 99 or whatever it was. But it said the angels blessed her and within one year, she had a baby. Now, one year. If they were counting time differently, here's what didn't change. The amount of time a woman was pregnant for, which is nine months. That's within one year even today. Which shows that the time back then of a year and the time today of a year is not different based on human biology. Right. It's a little connection. It's an interesting connection. So I do believe that they lived a long time back then. But let's look at how we can make sense of that. This might be controversial. What changed before Noah's Ark and after Noah's Ark? According to the story before Noah's Ark, they all lived hundreds of years after Noah's Ark. It went down to 180, then 120, and then it kept dwindling and dwindling and dwindling down. There's one thing that changed in the story. They Started eating meat.

[Sean]

Whoa.

[Jason Stroka]

Now, I'm not saying that meat's bad. As a matter of fact, I personally don't eat meat, but I was just brought up that way.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

I am not against people eating meat. I think in the world that we live in today, it's actually necessary in some cases. So don't take what I'm saying is black and white.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Jason Stroka]

I'm just saying it's an interesting point. There was one thing that changed.

[Sean]

That's the whole thing that changed.

[Jason Stroka]

One thing that changed before that they were all eating fruits and vegetables. Only after that is when they started eating meat. And suddenly the lifespan changes.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

Now let's look at animals that are carnivorous versus herbivores. Carnivorous animals don't live as long as herbivores. Like an elephant. An elephant lives a pretty long time. It can live like 70 years. A tortoise can live hundreds of years. A lion 25. So I'm generalizing here. It's just interesting points to think about, whether it's right or wrong. We could bring the experts there. But it's something that I found to be very interesting, which I wanted to bring up. So I don't know how we got here, but when it comes to lifespans and all that, I do believe that they lived a very long time. And I believe that we could still live a very long time today. I don't think that it's far fetched for somebody to live 2, 3, 400 years today.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Jason Stroka]

But to do that we got to eat, clean, we got to probably disconnect from the world that is the world that we're living in today. I don't think you're going to live till 300 living in a city. I think you have a chance of living that long if you're living somewhere that's very clean, not polluted. But beyond your external environment, you're also taking care of your internal environment. Meditation, proper thought, proper speech, all those things were very, very, very important. And if we could take that into consideration, I believe that there are people that have lived that long and are living that long now. But I also think that they're not going to come out and say it because what do you think is the first thing that's going to happen? Governments are going to come in, experiments are going to be. They don't need that, they don't want that. They're just trying to live.

[Sean]

I just had Dave Asprey on. He said there was someone in India that was like 185 right now. You know.

[Jason Stroka]

I'm saying that because I know a few people that are very, very, very, very old. Now, I don't want to go into that. And some people may look at that and say, well, Jason, you're crazy. How do you even know that they're. That they're that old? They don't have a birth certificate, and they don't. But when you see the other things they're capable of doing them. Being 200 years old is not the craziest thing in the world.

[Sean]

That makes sense.

[Jason Stroka]

Conversation for a different day. But, yeah, I'm saying that because I've seen it myself.

[Sean]

Well, Jason, thanks for your time, brother. Guys, if you're interested in trying the system out, we'll link it below. Anything else you want to close off with?

[Jason Stroka]

Absolutely. Again, everybody could check it [e-mail] I appreciate you giving me the platform. I'd love to interview you one day.

[Sean]

Let's do it.

[Jason Stroka]

You're doing all this work, you're interviewing and podcasting with some incredible people around the world. I think it's time to flip the script, start to understand who you are.

[Sean]

I mean, busy.

[Jason Stroka]

Awesome, brother. I appreciate it.

[Sean]

Thank you, guys. Peace.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Sean]

Thank you.