Jeff Zausch: Surviving 286 Days Naked: Jeff Zos' Epic Journey | DSH #1487

Summary

Digital Social Hour: Jeff Zausch's Epic Journey of Survival

Episode: Jeff Zausch: Surviving 286 Days Naked: Jeff Zos' Epic Journey | DSH #1487
Release Date: August 12, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Jeff Zausch

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Introduction to Jeff Zausch

In this riveting episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in an unfiltered and intense conversation with Jeff Zausch, a remarkable survivalist known for his extraordinary feats. Jeff shares his unparalleled experiences of surviving in the wild, emphasizing his unique approach and the sheer resilience required to endure extreme conditions.

Jeff's Survival Journey

Jeff opens the discussion by recounting his extensive experience with survival challenges, notably surviving "Naked and Afraid" eight times, totaling an astounding 286 days in the wilderness. He reflects on his early beginnings in the survival space, highlighting his pioneering role in venturing into uncharted territories.

"I've survived more days on Naked and Afraid than anybody's ever done. 286 days, to be exact." [00:58]

Jeff expresses his relentless drive, stating that there's always another challenge awaiting him, regardless of his previous accomplishments.

"There's always another bar. No matter how high you climb, there's always another mountain." [01:09]

Facing Natural Dangers

One of the most daunting environments Jeff has encountered is the swamps of Louisiana. Contrary to popular belief, he asserts that these swamps are more challenging than the Amazon or the deserts of Egypt and Botswana. The combination of relentless wildlife, pervasive insects, and hidden dangers like bacteria and viruses makes survival in these swamps exceptionally perilous.

"People never believe me when I say this. Louisiana. Really, the swamps of Louisiana are the most difficult." [01:35]

Jeff shares a harrowing account of battling meningitis after a 60-day survival stint in the Philippines, emphasizing the invisible threats that can be more lethal than visible predators.

"Most people would think that I'm most scared of crocodiles or lions or leopards, for example. No, I'm scared of the shit I can't see." [02:06]

Notable Animal Encounters

Jeff's survival journey is punctuated by numerous intense animal encounters. He details nightly hunts by predators like hyenas and leopards in Africa, describing the construction of a robust six-foot thorn wall boma to secure his shelter.

"Every survival challenge I do in Africa, I'm hunted every night." [03:16]

One of the most dramatic moments involved hunting a six-foot-long electric eel. Jeff narrates the dangers of electrocuting himself while spearing the eel and the subsequent life-threatening consequences.

"It electrocuted me through the spear... my heart rhythm wasn't normal for a couple hours." [09:48]

His encounters with American alligators in Louisiana are equally intense. Jeff explains the intricate and dangerous process of capturing and killing these formidable reptiles, highlighting their resilience and the sheer physicality required to overcome them.

"That's hands down the most dangerous animal that I've ever had to kill and eat out there." [13:12]

Survival Strategies

Jeff emphasizes the importance of preparation and adaptability in survival scenarios. Unlike traditional athletes, he adopts a unique approach by gaining weight before challenges to sustain his energy reserves, subsequently losing significant weight during intense survival periods.

"I gain about 50 pounds before every challenge. And my next challenge is October, so I've already gained 25 of it." [08:20]

He discusses the brutal reality of starvation during extended survival periods, drawing parallels to the instinctual behaviors of wild animals who gorge themselves in anticipation of uncertain future meals.

"The worst part of what I do is starvation." [09:54]

Personal Insights and Philosophy

Throughout the conversation, Jeff shares profound insights into the psychological and physical aspects of survival. His experiences have shaped a philosophy centered on embracing challenges and understanding the limits of human endurance.

"This is what I live for." [19:41]

Jeff also touches on his deep respect for the animals he encounters, emphasizing a holistic approach to hunting where every part of the animal is utilized, reflecting his commitment to honoring the life taken for survival.

"I will never hunt anything that I don't eat. Every piece of that animal." [17:06]

Conclusion and Future Plans

As the episode concludes, Jeff reveals his future endeavors, including his upcoming wilderness adventure trips through his company, Patanova.com. He invites listeners to join him in experiencing the raw beauty and challenges of the wild firsthand.

"If you want to explore the pyramids of Egypt or photograph polar bears in Greenland, I'm your guy." [20:08]

Jeff’s relentless spirit and unparalleled survival skills make this episode a compelling exploration of human endurance and the primal instincts that drive survival in the most extreme conditions.

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Connect with Jeff Zausch:

• Instagram: @JeffZausch
• Website: Patanova.com

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Disclaimer: All experiences and anecdotes shared in this summary are based on the podcast transcript provided and reflect the personal accounts of Jeff Zausch as discussed in the episode.

Transcript

[Jeff]

Okay, ironically, this is ironic, but in Colombia, there's a spider. I don't know the professional name. People can Google it. I call it the erectus spider. Yeah, because when it bites a person like you or me, we die with a full erection.

[Sean Kelly]

Whoa.

[Jeff]

True. The spider bites you, it causes this erection that never goes away, and then you die from it. Foreign.

[Sean Kelly]

Guys, we got Jeff here. Not your normal speaker at Student Action Summit, but inspiring the younger guys. Right.

[Jeff]

Man, I'm. I'm different. I feel like a fish out of water here, to be honest. I. You know, everyone is so polished and they're brilliant speakers, and I'm here talking about what it's like to sleep in the dirt and hunt crocodiles.

[Sean Kelly]

You know? I mean, you did what no one's done before, right? Survive. Naked and afraid. Twice.

[Jeff]

Eight times.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, eight times.

[Jeff]

Eight times, bro.

[Sean Kelly]

What?

[Jeff]

I was one of the first ones to ever do it 12 years ago.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[Jeff]

I've survived more days on naked and afraid than anybody's ever done. 286 days, to be exact. And, yeah, it's been a wild trip.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you think you'll ever do it again? At this point?

[Jeff]

I leave in October.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Still not enough.

[Jeff]

I'm not done, man. I'm not done. There's. There's always another bar. No matter how high you climb, there's always another mountain. And so I'm just, You know, I'm still young. I'm. You know, I. I haven't died yet, obviously.

[Sean Kelly]

Almost, though.

[Jeff]

Almost. Yeah. Spoiler alert. But I'm still here. I'm still doing it.

[Sean Kelly]

Nice. What was the toughest terrain out of all those expeditions?

[Jeff]

People never believe me when I say this. Louisiana. Really, the swamps of Louisiana are the most difficult. They're harder than the Amazon. They're more difficult than the deserts of Egypt or Botswana. I mean, it's. The swamps are just relentless.

[Sean Kelly]

What makes it so so much more difficult?

[Jeff]

The mosquitoes, the bugs, the cold, the water. And then the swamp has all the things you can't see, the bacteria, the viruses. And in survival, it's actually those things that'll kill you.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

So you almost got wrecked out there.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah, that one. Ironically, that was one of the ones I've left with no diseases. I was never hospitalized after 60 days in the Louisiana swamps, but I've had. I've had some diseases that have almost killed me.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, you got meningitis, right?

[Jeff]

Yeah, meningitis. I was in the ICU for over a month after that one. That was 60 days in the Philippines. I made it. I made it all 60 days. But I almost died after I got home once the meningitis set in and. Yeah, that was a rough one.

[Sean Kelly]

It's crazy because I. I've always wanted to go on Survivor, but I hear the stories about after and all the parasites people have and all these diseases. I'm like, 60 days for that.

[Jeff]

I don't know, it's. I've learned. I've learned the hard way why our ancestors only lived to be like 35 years old, right. And then they were dead, you know, and. And I see it now. It's. It's the things you can't see. Most people would think that I'm most scared of crocodiles or lions or leopards, for example. No, I'm scared of the shit I can't see.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[Jeff]

The bacteria, the viruses. Those are the things that terrify me.

[Sean Kelly]

Have you ever had a animal encounter out there?

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah, all the time. Every. Every survival challenge I do in Africa, I'm hunted every night.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy.

[Jeff]

Every single night. I have hyenas and leopards and. And usually the big cats trying to get in through my boma, which is a six foot tall wall of thorns that surrounds me. And that's the only way that you can survive in Africa without being eaten at night.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Feel bad for the videographer too, then it.

[Jeff]

I don't. The videographer leaves me at night. Oh, he leave. Goes and stays in his own, you know, comfortable shelter. He has a. He has a generator to charge his batteries and everything. But I'm left out there by myself.

[Sean Kelly]

Geez.

[Jeff]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Sean Kelly]

The nighttime's more difficult, I'd imagine, than the daytime.

[Jeff]

The nighttime is when you'll die and. And it. But ironically, it's the only time I get to relax.

[Sean Kelly]

Huh.

[Jeff]

And so. So I'm sleeping next to the fire. I'm relaxed. I'm trying to chill out, but at the same time, I'm being hunted. And so I never get a good night's sleep out there.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow, that's rough. And you're naked.

[Jeff]

And people underestimate that. People underestimate how hard it is to be naked in the wilderness. It's. It's not just made for TV stuff. It makes it difficult.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah. All the insects, all the scratches from the beaches.

[Jeff]

Dude, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this on your podcast. I was in Colombia one time. I got bit on the nether regions by a spider. Okay. It swelled up the size of A beer can.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[Jeff]

Seriously, in the morning, I go to take a leak, go out to my favorite petri, as I called it, and I look down and it. I look deformed.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, that's when I noticed it.

[Jeff]

Yes. That's when I noticed I looked deformed. And I. And I screamed like a little girl. Like, ah. You know, And I. I tell people that's the closest I've ever come to quitting a challenge, really, is because I thought I. I might lose my manhood.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

You know, like, I will do a lot for survival. I will not lose my manhood.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn. Did it go back to normal?

[Jeff]

Eventually it went back to normal. Thank God. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Did they give you anti venom or what happened?

[Jeff]

No, they gave me a shot of epinephrine or something, like in the manhood. It hurt, dude. It was terrible. But it probably saved me. So it. Yeah, it was the spiders. To this day, I don't do spiders.

[Sean Kelly]

Can you die from a spider bite?

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In fact, ironically, this is ironic, but in Colombia, there's a spider. I don't know the professional name. People can Google it. I call it the erectus spider.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Because when it bites a person like you or me, we die with a full erection.

[Sean Kelly]

Whoa.

[Jeff]

True. The spider bites you, it causes this erection that never goes away, and then you die from it. And that was my fear when I got bit by this. I'm like, not only am I going to die here, I'm going to die in the most embarrassing fashion you can. Wow. But fortunately, you know, I. I survived.

[Sean Kelly]

What a tough way to go out, huh?

[Jeff]

Terrible way to go. Either either the worst way or the best way, but in the jungle, by myself. Worst way.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn. That is nuts. Any snake bites?

[Jeff]

I have had a snake bite. Never on naked and afraid. Ironically, I was. I was kayaking down the Salmon river in Idaho, and a rattlesnake fell out of a bush when I was by the shore, fell into my kayak, bit me on the ankle.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn.

[Jeff]

I get out of the kayak, get to shore, take my boot off. Sure enough, there's a snake bite in my ankle. I'm seven miles from the nearest ranger station.

[Sean Kelly]

Crap.

[Jeff]

So I drop all my gear, you know, and just run as fast as I can because that. That venom is going through my blood, is working its way up to my heart. And the faster you get to a hospital, the better.

[Sean Kelly]

You are right.

[Jeff]

All the things that they tell you in the news and on these, you know, fairy tale stories that.

[Sean Kelly]

All right, guys, Sean Kelly here Host of the digital social hour podcast. Just film 33amazing episodes at Student Action Summit. Shout out to Code Health. You know, sponsor these episodes, but also I took them before filming each day. Felt amazing. Just filmed 20 episodes straight, and I'm not even tired, honestly. Much like this, where it's just based off, you know, the code, the codes that are in the saline solution. Code Health has been awesome. Feel the drop and then go code.

[Jeff]

Yourself, but it open and suck the venom out. It's all fake. None of that's real. And fortunately I, you know, made it back to a hospital, and I was okay.

[Sean Kelly]

Did you put a tourniquet on it? Did you?

[Jeff]

I did, I did. I wrapped my belt around it. The thing is, is you can only leave a tourniquet on for a couple minutes at best before it starts to kill your flesh.

[Sean Kelly]

Whoa.

[Jeff]

It's like your brain. When your brain goes without oxygen, it dies. Same thing when you put a tourniquet on. So every couple minutes, I had to loosen the tourniquet to allow blood to get to my foot.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn.

[Jeff]

Otherwise, you know, people have been bit by a snake, they put a tourniquet on, they get to the hospital, they have to cut their foot off because the tourniquet on was on so long, their foot died.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow. So that is nuts. Yeah. Leading up to the actual show, do you practice? Do you, like, go to similar venues and practice?

[Jeff]

I don't practice because I, you know. I know what I know, but I prepare, and I prepare like a UFC fighter would prepare for a fight.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Except in reverse. So I gain weight.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay.

[Jeff]

And I gain about 50 pounds before every challenge. Yeah. And my next challenge is October, so I've already gained 25 of it.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

I have 25 more pounds to go. And usually when I'm out there, I lose about a pound a day. So a 60 day survival challenge, I'm losing 60 pounds.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a lot.

[Jeff]

It. Dude, it. I come out of there weighing what I did in junior high school. It's crazy.

[Sean Kelly]

What's the longest fast you've had to, like, you couldn't find food. How many days did you go?

[Jeff]

Nine days.

[Sean Kelly]

Nine days.

[Jeff]

Nine days.

[Sean Kelly]

While being super active, too?

[Jeff]

Yeah. Yeah, super active. Hunting every day, building shelter every day. And so you're burning thousands of calories a day, similar to a professional athlete, but then you have nothing to eat for nine days. It. It's brutal. Like, to me, I always say the worst part of what I do is starvation. I bet because, like, animals in nature, they. They. Why they gorge themselves Every time they eat is because they don't know when their next meal is coming.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[Jeff]

So when I'm surviving out there, I have to live the same way when I kill an impala. I eat 20 pounds of that impala that first night because I don't know when the next meal I'm gonna get is.

[Sean Kelly]

What'd you find on that ninth day?

[Jeff]

What.

[Sean Kelly]

What animal was it?

[Jeff]

An electric eel.

[Sean Kelly]

An eel?

[Jeff]

An eel. And. And those electric eels, they actually killed dozens of people every year. And I speared that thing with a wooden spear.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

It electrocuted the. Out of me.

[Sean Kelly]

Through the spear?

[Jeff]

Through the spear, because the spear was in water. The spear had got wet, and so the electricity went through the spear and it went into my arm, up my arm, into my chest, and my. My heart rhythm wasn't normal for a couple hours.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy shit.

[Jeff]

After that, it was wild.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. I was going to ask you how you caught it, but. Damn.

[Jeff]

And that was just the first one. I killed two more after that.

[Sean Kelly]

That didn't stop you.

[Jeff]

The second one electrocuted me too. And then I got smart after that. And then I learned to catch them on fishing hooks, drag them up on shore and just beat them with a machete. And when they're not in the water, they don't electrocute you.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

So how big were the six feet long?

[Sean Kelly]

Damn, those were huge.

[Jeff]

As big around as. As our legs. I mean, unbelievable. And I've looked for electric eel in every seafood shop around the world. I can't find it. You can't find it because they kill the people that try to kill them. But amazing food.

[Sean Kelly]

There's some baby ones in the Asian ones, like H Mart and stuff.

[Jeff]

Yes, I've eaten sushi with eel, but they're teeny tiny. They're like the size of my pinky or something. These were six feet long. I was making steaks out of these things.

[Sean Kelly]

Did you eat it raw?

[Jeff]

No, I cooked it.

[Sean Kelly]

You cooked it?

[Jeff]

And it was like a mix between fish and pork.

[Sean Kelly]

Huh.

[Jeff]

It was like bacon grease dripping out of that thing.

[Sean Kelly]

Eels. Top five foods for me. Eel is good.

[Jeff]

Oh, it's.

[Sean Kelly]

I love me some eel.

[Jeff]

Very good.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I love eel, sushi, eel, avocado.

[Jeff]

Oh, it was worth the electrocution.

[Sean Kelly]

What's the tastiest and the grossest thing you've eaten out there?

[Jeff]

The tastiest it might be wild boar, because basically you're eating bacon and ham. Let's be real. The grossest thing I ever eat. I was filming a series of dual survival for Discovery Channel. I'm the host of that show. And. And me and my co hosts were working our way through the deserts of Botswana during the dry season. No water anywhere in sight for two and a half days. We went with no water. We were dying at this point. And we were following this elephant trail, thinking logically, well, elephants know where the water is. Let's follow the elephant trail that will lead us to water. We followed that thing for two days.

[Sean Kelly]

Shit.

[Jeff]

Didn't find any water. But we were seeing elephant dung along the ground. And. And for those of you that haven't seen elephant dung, it's very moist. Very, very moist. So we ended up having to pick up that elephant dung and squeeze it out, drain it into our mouths, and. And we were drinking elephant shit water.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

And it tasted like it was coming straight out of the elephant. Like, it is. It is worse than I can possibly imagine. Like, the hairs on my neck are standing up right now, just telling you about the experience. And the worst part was, it was so nasty. We were throwing up in our mouths, but we had to swallow the throw up because we were so dehydrated that we were going to die. So I was eating elephant shit water with throw up at the same time. And that's when I really started to evaluate my career choices.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I bet that was the best water, once you found it, that you've ever had.

[Jeff]

You know what's horrible? It was two hours later that we found a lake. Two hours later, man, it was.

[Sean Kelly]

You wish you stuck it out, bro.

[Jeff]

We were hating ourselves. Like, you should have seen our eyes when we saw this lake for the first time. We were just like, you have got to be kidding me.

[Sean Kelly]

That's nuts. What was the most difficult animal to catch?

[Jeff]

Probably an American alligator in Louisiana. Because I. Yeah, you catch them on a hook, like a big hook, like the size of your hand. They swallow the hook and it gets stuck. And so you're able to pull them into shore, but once you get them onto shore, that's it. Like, you have no more help. And so you have to jump on the back of the alligator, put something over its eyes so it can't see you, and pin its mouth shut with your hands.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

And all while doing this, it tries to roll. It's called the death roll.

[Sean Kelly]

Yep.

[Jeff]

And. And so you have to get a machete through the back of its neck, so its neck articulates left, right up, down. And in the. The armored plates on the back of the neck, there's a gap between them which allows the Neck to articulate. And that's the only weakness on the alligator. That's the only place where you can put a knife into its brain. And you have to do that before it rolls you. So that that's hands down the most dangerous animal that I've, I've had to kill and eat out there.

[Sean Kelly]

Did it get to that point where it was rolling on you?

[Jeff]

Just about. It was starting to roll when I put the knife in through its brain. And then, and what's ironic, though, is like, some people might view this as like, oh, my gosh, poor alligator. Alligators don't feel pain.

[Sean Kelly]

Really.

[Jeff]

Now, you may read different on some stupid little Google search, but I'm telling you, when I put that machete through the back, through the neck of the alligator, it didn't even flinch. Wow, bro. It didn't even blink. And, and there, there is science out there that say alligators don't feel pain. And I believe it. I have that experience.

[Sean Kelly]

Interesting. Yeah, that's very interesting. Any bear encounters?

[Jeff]

I go bear hunting every year.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Twice a year.

[Sean Kelly]

It's a side thing for you.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Every spring, every fall, I go bear hunting. It's a thing out there in Idaho and Montana. Yeah, I can't even.

[Sean Kelly]

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[Jeff]

Remember the last time I bought beef at a store?

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

My freezer's just full of deer, elk, and bear.

[Sean Kelly]

It's difficult, I heard, because of their scent. So they could smell the humans from, like, miles away, right?

[Jeff]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's why it's fun, too, because the, the bears, they're the predators, right? You're in their environment. So deer hunting is kind of almost unfair, right? You know, you have a big rifle and the deer is just meandering along, but a bear, now you're almost on, you know, fair playing field a little bit.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[Jeff]

And some people use dogs to chase them down, scare them up in a tree, and then they shoot them out of a tree. I think that's unfair. So I just go into the wilderness and track them and find them.

[Sean Kelly]

Nice. Has one ever gone aggro on you? Super aggressive.

[Jeff]

It. There was one bear. I, I, I had to shoot it five times.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[Jeff]

Before it finally dropped. It was 350 pounds. And I mean, it was a monster. It was a. That's big for Idaho, Montana area. Now, I know in North Carolina, they get bears that are 600 plus. But out west, 350 pound bear. Like, that's a big bear.

[Sean Kelly]

No joke.

[Jeff]

Yeah, it was like Freddy Krueger. Like if you imagine like just shooting this bear over and over and over and it keeps coming at you, it's terrifying.

[Sean Kelly]

What'd you shoot it with?

[Jeff]

30 out six. Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

So I. Bullet five.

[Jeff]

30 out six. Right. Those things are huge.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

You know, like for people watching, like, that bullet is as long as your middle finger.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[Jeff]

In five of those things. I mean, bears are some of the most amazing, tough, resilient animals that I've ever encountered. Which is ironic because that's what I, you know, gave my speech on today, Turning point.

[Sean Kelly]

But yeah, where do you rank bear meat in terms of taste? Out of all the meats, A lot.

[Jeff]

Of people don't eat it. A lot of people say it's gamey and fatty. But dude, like, I love bacon, I love pork, I love grease and fat. So for me it's. It's probably number five on the list, which isn't bad. I mean, there's some people that, that go and hunt bears and they don't even eat the meat.

[Sean Kelly]

Really.

[Jeff]

I think that's wrong. I will never hunt anything that I don't eat. Every piece of that animal. You know, I value the animal's life even though I hunt it for food. And, and so I eat everything.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

I eat the eyeballs.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

The tongue, the brain. Like it's dad, you know, you can use every part of the animal. I. I make a bear rug out of the skin. It's similar to n. That's what they did.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

You and Rogan got to get on a bear hunt together, dude.

[Jeff]

We need to.

[Sean Kelly]

He always talks about how good it tastes. It makes me want to try it, dude.

[Jeff]

Yeah. I'd love to go on a Kodiak Alaskan bear hunt.

[Sean Kelly]

Are those polar bears?

[Jeff]

Those are the grizzlies, but they're coastal grizzly, so they call them brown bears. Brown bears and grizzlies are the same species, but brown bears live on the coast. Grizzlies live inland. And the coastal bears are so much bigger. So much bigger. I. I would love to go on a hunt.

[Sean Kelly]

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[Jeff]

That's good for us. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. I've heard the polar bears are the most aggressive. Right?

[Jeff]

Polar bears, dude. So I. I take a trip to Greenland every year.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

To. To go photograph polar bears. And I have never seen an animal on this planet more violent and aggressive than a polar bear.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Jeff]

I mean, you can see it a mile away, and if it sees you, it will chase you down to kill you from a mile away.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[Jeff]

And. And they're unbelievable. Everything they see, they want to kill. And of course, you don't hunt polar bears. There's only some very, you know, remote tribes that still do that, and Inuits and different things. And so I would never hunt one. They're beautiful, amazing animals, but they are violent.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

So as a photographer of them, what's. What's the strategy if you can't get close? You can't even get within a mile.

[Jeff]

I try to get close. Is it. So the thing is, is you want to. You want to get as close as you can, but be in a boat. Right. Somewhere where they can't get you.

[Sean Kelly]

They swim though, right?

[Jeff]

They can swim. They're amazing swimmers. They swim faster than, like, dolphins.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy.

[Jeff]

Through the water. It's incredible. It's terrifying.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. That's super scary. Wow. You love adrenaline.

[Jeff]

I love adrenaline. Yeah. I love it. I like that people know me for my saying, this is what live for. And I scream it whenever I'm like, in the moment out there. And. Yeah. Photographing polar bears in Greenland, like, as me as their number one food source.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

That's what I live for.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, if the world ever ends, I will be texting you first to survive in the wild with you.

[Jeff]

I already have an area picked out.

[Sean Kelly]

Let's go. It's been fun, Jeff. Where can people find you and watch the show and everything?

[Jeff]

Instagram is my main. My main social media. So just my name, Jeff Zeus on Instagram. Recently I started my own company, Patanova.com and I take people now on wilderness adventure trips all across the world so they can experience it for themselves.

[Sean Kelly]

Nice.

[Jeff]

So if you want to explore the pyramids of Egypt or photograph polar bears in Greenland, I'm your guy. Come on a trip with me. I'll show you some fun.

[Sean Kelly]

Let's go check them out, guys. Thanks for coming on, man.

[Jeff]

Thanks, bud.

[Sean Kelly]

Yep.

[Jeff]

Pleasure.