Josh Snow: I Made $100M Fast… Here’s What Nobody Tells You After | DSH #1687

Summary

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Digital Social Hour: Josh Snow – "I Made $100M Fast... Here’s What Nobody Tells You After"

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Josh Snow (Entrepreneur, Founder of SNOW)
Episode #1687 | December 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this candid and unfiltered conversation on Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly dives deep with entrepreneur Josh Snow, whose meteoric rise saw him generate $100 million in just three years. Together, they unpack the unseen emotional realities behind rapid wealth, the evolution of digital creators, generational shifts in values, and what success truly means beyond the money. Josh, blending humor and raw honesty, dispels myths about hustle culture, family, mental health, and the modern American dream.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. The Reality of Entrepreneurial Success

• Your First Business Likely Won't Be The Big One

  • "Your first business probably won't be your billion dollar business. Sorry." – Josh (00:00)
  • Emphasizes adaptive learning and mastering the hustle, not chasing instant, massive success.

• The Emotional Cost of Fast Wealth

  • "I've made $100 million in three years… But what you think. And I don't even know what I thought to be honest with you, but I know what I thought was not what I got." – Josh (24:21)
  • Reveals a sense of emptiness and disillusionment that can come even with overwhelming financial gains.

2. Creators, Brands, and New Frontiers

• The Rise of Influencer Entrepreneurship

  • Comparison of Paul brothers, Rihanna, and creator-economy shifts.
  • "Creators used to be let me post something for your brand, then it was, let me create my own brand... and we could build something big. Think about it." – Josh (01:44)

• Monetization on TikTok vs. Instagram/Facebook

  • Insights into different approaches and outcomes on major platforms.
  • "Podcasts, audio format and sound are very important... I spent a hundred million dollars of my own cash, my own cash on Meta for one brand, Snow." – Josh (19:54)

3. American Values, Family & Identity

• The Dissolving of Family Values

  • Discussion about declining traditional family structures.
  • "Family values are kind of dissipating with each generation." – Sean Kelly (11:30)
  • Digital distractions and increased disconnectedness within homes.

• A Candid Take on Fame and the American Dream

  • U.S. as the best place to build, contrasted with “try being president in Russia.”
  • "America is the best place in the world to build a business. It's the best place in the world to be born." – Josh (31:33)

4. Mental Health, Self-Awareness, and Personal Growth

• Money Magnifies Who You Are

  • "Money makes you more of who you are. Remember that. Before you make a lot of money, change who you are, please. Because us rich people, like nice people that are also rich." – Josh (24:49)

• On Dealing with Demons – Billionaire Edition

  • "You either deal with your demons along the way, at your destination or along the future. When do you deal with the demons? Because we all have demons." – Josh (25:13)
  • Lack of self-development leads to persistent internal struggles, regardless of wealth.

• Expectations and Parenting

  • “Don’t have expectations with your kids. Don’t have them... Don't have the expectation that my son's going to be a billion dollar business owner. That's not fair.” – Josh (25:57)
  • Critical view on generational pressure and its consequences.

• On Therapy and Mental Health for High Achievers

  • “No one gives us mental health. They go, they're Yao Ming. They don't need help... even guys like us, girls like them, a brain is a brain is a brain.” – Josh (32:01)

5. Social Networks, Technology, and the Future

• The TikTok Paradigm and the Creator Economy

  • TikTok empowers creators financially in a way previous platforms failed.
  • "When we looked at platforms like TikTok, where I'm planning to make a million dollars a day by the end of this year, TikTok is different." – Josh (33:52)

• Platform Power Dynamics & Predictions

  • Facebook’s consolidation, Amazon as a potential acquirer of TikTok’s US algorithm.
  • “The best chance America has against TikTok... is to acquire TikTok's US algorithm. And I think the company best to do that is Amazon.” – Josh (34:23)

• Supercomputers in Our Heads

  • The importance of intentional information consumption:
    “Your brain is a supercomputer. You want to download a bunch of games and porn, your brain is going to be a rot fest. You want to download the right stuff, who it starts to work and I'll tell you when, when you get there, it feels like magic.” – Josh (36:16)

6. Secrets of Real Fulfillment

• Not Everyone Needs $100 Million
  • “Not everybody needs 100 million. Some people need 200 grand a year on passive income to live their ultimate life, to raise their children with fathers. It's not about the 100 million. It's about the 100% of what you need to be. And that is what clicked finally.” – Josh (41:01)
  • Challenges the value of chasing endless wealth vs. defining personal satisfaction.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parallels Between Royalty, Fame, and Influence:

  • “Here we have the Kardashians, but there you have the Queen, the proper monarch.” – Josh (04:43)
  • Commentary on societal figureheads and the influence of media.

• On Darknet Curiosity:

  • “Yeah, crazy. Or they're home and they're on the darknet.” – Josh (11:49)
  • “I've been on the darknet.” – Sean Kelly (11:55)

• Human Resistance to Change:

  • “There's an innate fear of change. Nobody likes change. Nobody. I like it, but I pretend, because primally we are programmed to resist against change.” – Josh (13:22)

• On Legacy and Raising Children:

  • “The only job of a human is to procreate and to share wisdom. That's it.” – Josh (26:58)
  • Critique of fleeting internet fame.

• On The Unique Chance Of Being American:

  • “You won the lottery being born here. So if you're American and you're broke, that's only your fault.” – Josh (31:33)

• Perspective of Gratitude & Friendship:

  • “Sean, you have built an incredible platform... for freedom of thought expression, like you have with me... to let people be themselves.” – Josh (43:25)
  • A moment of mutual respect and appreciation closes the episode.

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Selected Timestamps of Key Segments

• Opening Reality Check (00:00): Josh on first businesses and learning curves.
• Creator-Brand Evolution (01:44): Strategic shifts for creators in the digital age.
• Family, Values & Society (11:30): Generational changes and American identity.
• Wealth, Purpose & Demons (24:21): The hollowness of wealth and internal battles.
• Parenting & Expectations (25:57): Lessons on generational pressure.
• America’s Entrepreneurial Edge (31:33): Rants on patriotism and self-responsibility.
• Mental Health for the Successful (32:01): The universality of psychological struggles.
• Platforms & The Future (33:52, 34:23): TikTok’s rise, Amazon’s opportunity.
• Supercomputer Brain (36:16): What you feed your mind.
• True Fulfillment (41:01): Money isn’t one-size-fits-all happiness.
• Outro Statements of Gratitude (43:25): Josh’s tribute to Sean and the show.

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Tone and Style

Josh Snow’s style is unscripted, raw, and energetic—mixing irreverent metaphors and self-mockery with sharp, practical insights. He switches rapidly between business, philosophy, personal anecdotes, and social commentary, keeping the conversation bold, unpredictable, and distinctly real.

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This summary captures the episode’s freewheeling honesty—a peek behind the curtain at what it really means to “make it,” and why the answers aren’t as simple, or as universally satisfying, as most believe.

Transcript

[Josh]

Your first business probably won't be your billion dollar business. Sorry.

[Sean Kelly]

Facts.

[Josh]

Sorry. You have to learn like you have mastered. I have mastered the art of the hustle. You figure it out, buddy. If you can become a master adaptive learner, which means that you adapt instantly. How's it going? Fly to wherever you want. It's America. Fly with whatever you want. If you need a little bit of Xanax to calm you down, sure. I've never taken Xanax in my life, but I know it helps if he looks really.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, I don't think Xanax. Well, but whatever. Whatever you need. How about that?

[Sean Kelly]

You're the plug.

[Josh]

Sure. All right. Somebody.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, you're good at. You're good at e commerce, so it.

[Josh]

Makes sense, you know, if you're good at e commerce, you got every plug right.

[Sean Kelly]

See where that TikTok to TikTok shop and all.

[Josh]

I don't invest at TikTok, but that doesn't help so much in the plug world. But Instagram, Facebook. Yeah, of course.

[Sean Kelly]

That's where it started. Right?

[Josh]

That's where. Sorry.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, but now you're riding that TikTok wa. I just saw. Dude, you know Jeffree Star?

[Josh]

I know Jeffrey Star.

[Sean Kelly]

I saw him on what podcast was.

[Josh]

I know person. He's actually a fire savage. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I just saw Montana Mongo podcast yesterday. He's making like 50k a off Tik Tok.

[Josh]

No, more than that.

[Sean Kelly]

More than that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, he said from one live video.

[Josh]

But man, that's crazy. That's like watching one Buffett's documentary thinking that he only eats McDonald's for a living.

[Sean Kelly]

You think he's ever eaten McDonald's?

[Josh]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

Or drank Pepsi?

[Josh]

Nope.

[Sean Kelly]

And not once.

[Josh]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

I mean he makes a lot.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Sean Kelly]

You think Logan Paul drinks Prime?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, of course. It's. I actually like Prime. Everybody hates Prime. Everybody hates on Prime. It's pretty good. Really? I like it. I'm not. I'm not sponsored by them. Jake. They're a little bit coin doesn't affect. No, really, I'm not trying to sponsor it. It's just. It's a good dream. It's okay. It's fine. They found the pocket. Everybody does it. Fenty Beauty. She's black. So Billion dollar black skincare brand. What's wrong with that? Nothing's wrong with that. But the Paul brothers, I think exemplify the future of creators. Creators. Used to be let me post something for your brand, then it was. Let me create my own brand. Then it was, what if I create a brand with a big agency and we could build something big. Think about it. Rihanna has not performed in four years. Why? She performed actually two times. I'll tell you one. First time, super bowl last year. What did she do? A little fenty post. You know why? Because the super bowl commercial is $7 million. So she's getting paid zero to perform at the Super bowl for 100 million Americans. How does she make money? Well, a normal artist would say, well, I'll make a few million off the itunes. I don't need more money than that. Rihanna's a billionaire, though. I like to think like billionaires. So she's not going to leave unless it's worth her time. So the first time she performed the super bowl, what happens at the Super Bowl? Even though you get paid zero to perform, what happens? Well, you get seen by 100 million Americans that may have never downloaded any music. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. Everybody listening, Believe it or not, there is someone in America who has not downloaded Umbrella. I'm just going to say it, say it once. There's somebody that has not downloaded Umbrella by Rihanna. The only way for her to reach that audience is to perform at the super bowl for free. Because then you get everybody listening and then you get everybody downloading music and then you're the biggest artist on itunes all of a sudden, even though you've been around 20 years. You know why? Because the people in the Appalachian hills may have not heard Rihanna. Maybe they've heard of her, but they didn't see her in an American sport like Super Bowl. And then she performed the second time. The second time was for the richest guy in. In India. His son is getting married. We know you watch the media. They spend a lot of money. Were you the richest Indian? And like marriage is a thing in your culture, which they have like five week weddings.

[Sean Kelly]

Yep.

[Josh]

It's like the only place.

[Sean Kelly]

No, I saw Nick Jonas's wedding.

[Josh]

Dude, it's nuts. Yes. What's her name? Probably her name, but picture mom is her. We should know this. But she's great. She's beautiful and she's Indian descent. And where they at? Jonas is like, dude, whatever you want to have. All right, babe. She's like, we now have a five week wedding. We need 16 elephants a day. And that's just culturally acceptable. Okay. That's how it works. Right? That is that style of. I mean, think about this, man. Nobody talks about this. Nobody. Queen and princess of England. Let's just talk for a second. And now I'm marrying a British Citizen. I'm not a British citizen. I'm American all the way, so I can say whatever I want. But in England, you got the Queen, you got the monarchy. That's what everybody follows. You know, here we have the Kardashians, but there you have the Queen, the proper monarch. Well, what happens when she wants to do a Netflix special? Oh, man, they don't like Meghan very much. I'll tell you what, they don't like her very much because she is very American, actually. Very American. Now, if you remember, there was a thing called the British Tea Party, and things got kind of rowdy. Now you imagine you're the Queen of England, right now, Sean. Mike Kelly is the Queen of England. It's true. And then his daughter wants to marry, or his son wants to marry an American Netflix artist. They're having a meeting. At least you're having a meeting. Think about it. Because I thought, well, that's a big deal. She's hot. Whatever. Let him do what he wants to do. Yeah, I might tell my son what to do. Wants to bang that chick. Let her bang that chick. As long as it's safe for the family, it's fine. But if it's based on the monarchy, things get a little bit iffy. So now you go, wait a second, son. You don't want to marry the duchess in Amsterdam? No, I'd rather like. That's it right there. She's big on Instagram. I want her. So nobody ever talks about this. Nobody has ever talked about this. In fact, I'm very well researched. There's no one has talked about this. But if you think about Meghan Markle, a Netflix star, little boy watching Netflix growing up, she's hot, right?

[Sean Kelly]

Think about the woman from Suits you're talking about.

[Josh]

Oh, she's like an extra in suits, but she's now very, very powerful. But to go from the extra in suits, a man's show, like, she's kind of hot. And then you're the Prince of England.

[Sean Kelly]

Big jump.

[Josh]

It's a big job. But what's different humanly though? Nothing. But back then, I would say, if I was your dad, I would say, sean, you're gonna marry your cousin because you're both prince and princesses, have kids.

[Sean Kelly]

That's some Game of Thrones right there.

[Josh]

No, it's real. It's not Game of Thrones.

[Sean Kelly]

People do that. Cousins.

[Josh]

What, are you kidding me?

[Sean Kelly]

In England, I did not know that's.

[Josh]

Our entire life has been built off of incest.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Josh]

Our entire. You are made of Incest.

[Sean Kelly]

I could see it because when I go on 23, I've had like 500 cousins that I don't know about. See, it's weird. Some of them messaged me, like, I don't know.

[Josh]

But I'm just saying back in the day, I'll tell you what, you got a girlfriend or your girl or you're me with a fiance. Watch Bridgerton. He'll find out the monarchy was not that proper. Because if you are the prince of Amsterdam and I'm the princess of whatever, that's safer. But we're kind of like siblings. I know, but keep it in the family. That still happens nowadays. Now you gotta dig. Gotta do chatgpt. Dig a little bit deeper to find where it happens. Kazakhstan, I don't know. Somewhere. But Alabama, I don't know. But I'm telling you that there is still a very strong tie to this understanding of indoc. Indoc. Indoctrination. Indoctrin. Damn. Guess I have a tough word. It's a tough word, huh? Indoctrin. Indoctrination. There it is. So the indoctrination of that type of society is very difficult. So I think what we're seeing today, we see a lot of things going on, right? You got all this diddy stuff going on. These touchy boys, touchy girls. Break a girl, there's a lot going on. I'll tell you what, Entertainment leaves a lot to the unknown. So you never know what really happens.

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[Josh]

It's how it used to run. Maybe it won't run that way in the future. Maybe there's more transparency. But at the end of the day, I think that as an American, whether you're President one or not, you gotta decide. How am I going to indoctrinate? Gotta write the percent. Indoctrinate your principles. What are your principles? I think that's the problem in America. We don't know. We don't know what we stand for.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[Josh]

What we stand for.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, because the family values are kind of dissipating with each generation.

[Josh]

It's a big problem.

[Sean Kelly]

I remember sitting at the dinner table with my parents and, you know, that was pretty normal back then, I'd say. But now it's like your kids are on the phone stuff or not even home at all.

[Josh]

Yeah, crazy. Or they're home and they're on the darknet.

[Sean Kelly]

I've been on the darknet.

[Josh]

I had to. It's very dark.

[Sean Kelly]

It was.

[Josh]

I got on your browser all this stuff.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, I got easy spoofed. I had to cover my webcam. I was on. What was that site? Silk Road.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

I'm just incriminating myself. But no, it was an interesting site.

[Josh]

I'm disagreeing with you because I have a very large company. I cannot say anything. But yes, Silk Road was very popular and it was a very accessible route for a lot of people to buy anything from math to Ars to a Netflix login. So it was all kinds of crazy. But that was. And. And keep in mind, that could have been 2014, 2016. So we're about 2024, 2025. AI humanization of. Of AI. I think that's important because everybody says, oh, yeah, AI, I'm gonna build AI startup. Everybody's just trying to make a quick buck. But the actual generative AI, where I can help you, Sean Kelly, with your specific needs, because I understand you as a therapist, so I can help you in those moments. There's a certain part, if you think about being an entrepreneur, what is the hardest part of being an entrepreneur?

[Sean Kelly]

I guess learning. Right. Access to people.

[Josh]

Learning. Access to people. Absolutely. Learning. You got to be willing to learn. You got to know where to learn, who to learn from the right people. You got to have a network, you got to connect, you got to follow the right people, reach out. Absolutely, Absolutely. But there's a. An innate fear of change. Nobody likes change. Nobody. I like it, but I pretend because primally we are programmed to resist against change. It's just how we are. And I think that most people try so hard, whether you're a business entrepreneur, selling this. I've sold a billion dollars a month products. I bought every car, everything that I've ever wanted. As a broke, Hispanic first generation entrepreneur, I've done it. I think all I think. And I'm here, coming back like, hey, here's what really matters. I think this is kind of me now. So God willing, I'm 31. If I can live another 50, 60 years, pump some NAD in me, I'll do it all. Brian Johnson. I met Brian Johnson recently. He still looks 50 to me. But I will say that he looks younger than a 50 year old. And if I could look younger, I would love to look that way. But I don't think I know I will go on record saying this. By the time I die, no one will figure out how to live longer than 200 years, period. So that's it. I have to say that because there's this quest. The problem is everybody who is in their current generation, me, you, we think we're gonna live forever every time. And we all die. You'll die like 96. You have Asian blood, lives longer.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So you'll die like 96. I'm a die like 78. Put it on record. We'll put this up. Poly market, make some money off Ali.

[Sean Kelly]

You do party hard, nigga. That's what, 78?

[Josh]

No, I just. I know too much.

[Sean Kelly]

So you're gonna go crazy.

[Josh]

No, I don't know. I don't know. I know too much. I'm 31. About everything I ever wanted. There's nothing you can. I've worked with every celebrity, so I think I'm kind of like fried. Where it's like, I've done all of Hollywood, all the money, all the cars, all like everything when I was single, every girl, every. Everything you could think of be life. Yeah. And that's why Elon has 12 kids. And that's why Jeff cheated on his wife of 23 years with his neighbor's wife. That's something no one talks about. Wait a second. Who's your biggest idol? If you ask anybody in here, who's your biggest idol? Elon Musk. I could list them all with 99% accuracy because I teach 100,000 entrepreneurs a day. So I hear, though, it's all the same stuff. Elon. Okay, I get it. I look up to him too, by the way. Everybody does. Everybody should. If you're American and you look at the Elon, what's wrong with you? If you're American and you look up To Donald. Even if you don't hate the guy, you're not American. Because the American dream is the. Okay, how about this? Go be born in Russia, Sean. Go ahead. You be president by being on a TV show. What doesn't make sense in America, you're the most powerful man in the world. That's right, because the US Is a national currency. You know, our number one export. Entrepreneurship and innovation. Really? Yes. It's technically digital or like, what do you call it? Intellectual gbp. But whatever. It comes down to the American dream. Every time I travel, and I've been successful enough coming from nothing to travel everywhere in the world. And every time I want a yacht in the Maldives, and I go, hey, man, where you want to move? Miami.

[Sean Kelly]

What?

[Josh]

Why do you want to move Miami? Traffic. No, Miami. Miami is in you, Louisiana, and New York, period. There's nothing else. It's Miami or nothing. So when I fly now, and I'm on my private jet, I go, where do you want to move? Where do you want to go next? Miami. What? Traffic. Overpriced bottle service. Yachts are expensive. You can't have 12 to 13 people on per yacht. I don't want to buy a yacht. I only have 12 people on. That's boring. That doesn't matter. Miami has become the new American dream. Crypto, young, sexy, international melting pot. Miami equals America. And I haven't been in a few years because it's too much for me, but Miami equals America. If you really want to look at what America stands for, you look at Florida. Take out some of the narcotics and stuff, but, like, if you take a Florida, the. The tourism, Disney, America. If you really look at America, we're more like Florida than we are like dc.

[Sean Kelly]

I'll agree with that. I just went to DC So I'll definitely go with that. DC is like a bubble. It's not really America anymore.

[Josh]

Great food, though.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. D.C. great.

[Josh]

Yeah. Great seafood and stuff. Man, they got great food, great people. I love D.C. actually. I. I really do. But if we look at the democratization and the access of where people think. Think about this. Three years ago, I used to watch my fiance Charlie every night before she went to sick. What was she using? Because I have, like, 4,000 slacks and 4,000 emails to catch up on. I would look over at my fiance. What is she doing? She used to be on Instagram and Facebook. Now she's only on TikTok, along with 170 million daily Americans.

[Sean Kelly]

Same with my fiance. She doesn't even use Instagram or Facebook anymore.

[Josh]

Though I look at it but like, hmm is where they, yeah, for hours they do their thing. Instagram was like, let me see who messaged me. And then Facebook's like once a month, check out family. Oh, my teacher died from second grade, so that's Facebook. And then LinkedIn is like once in a blue moon, am I looking for a job? While the spam. The only place they go to is tape talk. And believe it or not, podcasts, audio format and sound are very important. We've tried to negate sound and other pieces through Meta and all this. I spent a hundred million dollars of my own cash, my own cash on Meta for one brand, Snow. And that's like one of a lot of things I've done, but like $100 million of my money as a solo founder on Meta. So I got to see like what happens when you spend 100 million bucks, like what happens when you do these things and you realize these like network effects. So for me, I feel like, I feel like I'm very jaded because I've gone to make every dollar that I thought I could make. Every opportunity, every celebrity. Sometimes I think that I have to almost reset. Sometimes you have to reset because you have to realize, oh, I'm with Drake, you know, hanging out like this should be cool. And you have to kind of reset because I think that when you make a like me, I made $100 million in three years. I came from absolutely nothing. I, I'm, I'm a broke Hispanic piece of shit and I'm self made. They're accurate. You can track all my money and you might, you're. If you're not using my toothpaste, your wife is probably using my toothpaste. So it's a big, big, big, big deal of the companies that I built. But I've also learned a lot about myself along the way. And I think that's the piece that everybody talks about. I make money, everybody's got opinion politics. This, this, Listen, I took the city bus 10 years ago and I've joke on every Rolls Royce ever invented. And I'm here telling you, I'm just, I, I kind of figured out, I went around the lap and I kind of found the good stuff. And I could be completely wrong. So anyone listening? Go, nah, fuck this guy. Fine, fuck me. I'm rich. Whether you like me or not. I live the perfect life. I love my life, I'm happy, I'm perfect. So nothing you can do will ever stop me. I'm just here to say, hey, I made 100 million really fast days are different. And I think if you look at Mike Tyson, you take a think about who makes 100 million three years other than me. Athletes, IPO, fast musicians, the Ryan kid that reviews toys. Mr. Beast made $85 million. Close, close to me. So like that. And then you take like me, lil peon, little rat boy, taking a little city bus with no dreams, no hope, no inspiration, nothing to jaded because I've been rich for so long at 31, that's fucked. But I think there's something for me to share. And I think there's something for me that I've learned that maybe other men or women may learn from. Is the Lamborghini going to get you what you want? Is 100 million your bank of America? When you face ID going to give it to you, or are you still going to feel empty? Because when I was poor, people say, oh, money doesn't buy happiness. I said, give me your money, little. I'll be happy. That was my exact response when I was 14. Now I'm like, no, you're right, dog. You gotta. You gotta align it. You gotta make sure this, this, and this is right. It's different now. The problem is 99% of people don't make 100 million in their lifetime. And the people that do, never teach about it. I'm your one.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn, she felt empty with all that money, all those cars and everything.

[Josh]

Not completely. I have great friends, I have great family. I have all this, but what you think. And I don't even know what I thought, to be honest with you, but I know what I thought was not what I got. So whatever I thought was not what I should have. So it's kind of this weird feeling. You get there to go, oh, I got $100 million. I should be able to do everything I want. You, and you leave. But then you're an like. That's not who I am. Money makes you more of who you are. Remember that. Remember that, please. Because before you make a lot of money, change who you are, please. Because us rich people, like nice people that are also rich.

[Sean Kelly]

Do some self development, do some ayahuasca.

[Josh]

Journeys, whatever you want. Ayahuasca. I don't judge anything. You do what you need to do. Because here's the problem. I. I have so many billionaire friends that, like, it's crazy. But the thing is that one thing they have in common, I hope they don't fucking. I mean, there's nothing they could really do, I guess. But the truth is. And they Know this. You either deal with your demons along the way, at your destination or along the future. When do you deal with the demons? Because we all have demons. We all do. Even if you grew up in a billionaire family, you got demons. You have to be better than your dad. Dude. I'm Barron Trump. How I beat my father. You never will. Ever, ever.

[Sean Kelly]

That's tough. Yeah. Do you think about that with your kids?

[Josh]

I do, but. So I've got, I got a mentor. He's 88. And he told me, he said, don't have expectations with your kids. Don't have them. Because Sean, You're my dad for a reason. Right? So you gotta have no expectations for your wife or your kids. Let it go. You're the superstar. They are too, because you're together and they're amazing. But like, don't have the expectation that my son's going to be a billion dollar business owner. That's not fair. He's got to do better than dad. Because they grew up with resentment, they become drug addicts and they end up in rehab six to 12 times. I've seen them all. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. It's like I'm almost like I died and I came back. I'm like, hey, I party with all the billionaires. I know what they really want. I know what the men want. Even though they've married four wives. Like I kind of know. So for me it's kind of simple to be honest with you. Love the things you're doing. Why? Because you're doing them. Is there another reason you need? Life is simple. The only job of a human is to procreate and to share wisdom. That's it. Oh, you're YouTube famous dope dog. Did you procreate? Did you teach your kids? No. Then you sour. You were famous for 12 months. You. I hate you, Mr. Beast. I hate ultimately. Really? Because he doesn't have kids.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, he's young though.

[Josh]

Don't matter. I think you, I think you're half 26. I'm 31. I have no kids, so I actually can't judge. But he will. But he should have 40 kids.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, Elon has 11 and she wants.

[Josh]

The poorer you are, the more kids you have.

[Sean Kelly]

I've noticed that. What do you think that is?

[Josh]

Well, it's actually just defined by four years on you. But it's well, study. When you are scarce, you create abundance. The way you can. Right.

[Sean Kelly]

So they see the kids as their way out of poverty fisc.

[Josh]

In a weird way, they Do Never thought about one. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

My dad grew up with a ton of rose and sisters on a farm.

[Josh]

Broke, poorer you are, the more kids you have. That's it. It's just how it is. Think about this Paris Hilton. I love her. Paris Hilton had her first baby at 41.

[Sean Kelly]

What?

[Josh]

You're a billionaire. You should have a kid at 21. Your dad's literally the Hilton heir. Have kids immediately. What are you waiting on? That's me as a poor man that became rich. That's my gentrified view as a modern woman. Why would I have a kid? To stifle my career. I make more money than you. Paris Hilton makes more money than me. So she wins. So whatever she says, all right. In my world, right? In my world, in the women's world, is she right? I don't know. I'm not a political advocate. I don't know. I won't start a little fight. I don't know. But maybe you should have kids as soon as you're in a position in a loving relationship, you know, ideally, right? I don't know. But for me, as a man, that's all I can speak from. I can't speak to a woman's body. I got to speak to a woman. I can always speak from a man's perspective. And as a man, I think that a lot of boys are lost, fatherless homes. Problem. That's right. Jordan Peterson, David Goggins, all these people are so successful one. They're awesome. They're my friends. I love them. But, you know, you talk to a displaced male at 16, as a Navy Marine, you're probably going to speak to them because they didn't have a man to speak to them growing up. So I think the biggest opportunity we have in America is for men to better father their homes and for women to support that effort. I don't know what that means, but it's kind of what's been working for a long time. So we can get women to support that and we get men. I don't care. You have women president, women out. I'm Hispanic first generation. There's nothing you could tell me. I'm mixed race. I don't care. Black, cool, Hispanic cool, Asian cool, white cool. I do not care at all. But what I do care about is that the principles that have made a successful in an adapted way continue because you don't want to fuck up what's working. And some people say America is not working. I don't know. I'll tell you what, if you're an American citizen. I dare you. This year. I dare you. Or next year, it could be a year. Revoke your US Citizenship and move to Panama. Do it. Revoke it if you're an American citizen. If you do not like America right now, revoke your citizenship, move to wherever you want to go, and call me in 36 months. You may be happier. I don't know. You may be. I don't know.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't know.

[Josh]

If you answer. You may be happier. You may be Costa Rica with no US Citizenship, I will tell you myself, because I can only speak for my own. America is the best place in the world to build a business. It's the best place in the world to be born. You won the lottery being born here. So if you're American and you're broke, that's only your fault. Only your fault. Because I grew up broker and I realize it was only my fault.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Josh]

And that's a very hard thing to realize. Very hard. Because then you go, well, my parents are broke, so I'm broke. Yeah. But the reason, as an adult, you continue to be broke, your fault. No one owes you anything, ever. Ever. You owe yourself something if you care about yourself. And if you don't care about yourself, you need to go to therapy. Betterhelp.com talkspace.com 49 bucks. You can hop on right away. Shoot me a message. We have a fund that helps people get mental health. Because nobody talks about mental health worth 6 12. Both of us. So no one gives us mental health. They go, they're Yao Ming. They don't need help. Their brain must be the size of the Twin Towers. So, like, they don't give us help. But I'll tell you what, even guys like us, girls like them, a brain is a brain is a brain. And the psychological and sociological empathetics that happen to our brain cause a dialect. A dialect, AKA conversation, that our brain has that is as is. So our status quo could change. That's what I'm saying.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Our brain is a supercomputer. And sometimes our brain gets a little stuck. Have you ever had a computer, Sean?

[Sean Kelly]

Yes.

[Josh]

That you open 500 tabs on it goes a little slower.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay. Does that mean your computer is a piece of shit? No, probably not. You're opening 500 tabs, dude. So sometimes, if we realize. Think about this. How much is Facebook made off of us? A trillion. I know. So, trillion. How much have you made off of? I mean, we've made money on Facebook because we advertise. But, like, the average person has made off of Facebook.

[Sean Kelly]

0.

[Josh]

0 and 16 years. 0. So when we looked at platforms like TikTok, where I'm planning to make a million dollars a day by the end of this year, TikTok is different. TikTok said, what if we gave all the power to the creator, let that be viral. Now Mark could have done this, but he bought Instagram for network effects and immediately monetized it. If he would have let it live a little longer, maybe he would have a chance against TikTok. The best chance America has against TikTok, I believe at the moment is to acquire TikTok's US algorithm. And I think the company best to do that is Amazon. No antitrust problems. If Facebook buys in. Sure. Number one, go through this together. Number one social network in the comp. The. In the world. Facebook by registered users. Facebook. Okay. Then you go to WhatsApp, Instagram and then an app called messenger that's owned by Facebook. So four out of the four are owned by Facebook. Okay. What are the rest? YouTube. So you have Google. So duopoly. And I will. I. And listen, I may be physically gone after this podcast by saying this, but I will tell you because Peter Till thinks the same thing. Monopolist claimed to not have a monopoly. Google. Thank goodness. Sam Altman. Remember I met Sam Altman when he was owning and when he was running a dating site.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Josh]

What was his OkCupid, I think it was. So he ran OkCupid back in the day, 2008, 2011. And we would message back and forth and I knew this guy had a big ass brain. I didn't know he was gonna create chat GPT. I didn't know anything. Nobody knew. But this guy was different. The way he thought about stuff was different. The way he responded was different. So if you're listening to this right now, think about what are you downloading in your supercomputer. Because your brain is a supercomputer. You want to download a bunch of games and porn, your brain is going to be a rot fest. You want to download the right stuff, who it starts to work and I'll tell you when, when you get there, it feels like magic. That's when you know you got it. I asked one of my rich old mentors, I didn't know you got it. He goes, boy, you ain't got it. That's PR told me, but that's my mentor. I know I don't got it. But like when I got it, I don't know I got it. Because you're 85, you're about to be dead. So how do I know I got it when you're gone? So I kind of threw a little shake. He says when what you do looks like magic to people, that's when you know you got it. Oh, Steve.

[Sean Kelly]

So are you there yet?

[Josh]

No, I probably never will be.

[Sean Kelly]

Really.

[Josh]

I don't know. To me, what I do feels like magic, but I don't know yet. I don't know. And some of my mentors have passed away, unfortunately, so I don't know. A moment for sitting on these lights that flicker so, you know, waiting for some sign to know that I have the right thing. But where I found the safest thing to be is to pretend you know nothing. Always. You're a piece of shit for your whole life, but you're also the best thing that ever happened to yourself. So you should treat your body like a temple if you're not working out every day, drinking eight cups of water every day, sleeping well, eating green vegetables, nothing processed. And I'm not, I don't know any diet to follow. Now, I've watched every documentary on food, everyone. Maybe there's some in different languages, but I also watch dubby, so I watch about 100 documentaries a month. Which sounds like Tai Lopez saying he read every book a day or something. I'm not trying to be that. And Tai Lopez is a friend of mine. I'm just saying I do watch a lot of tv. It is my entertainment and I happen to watch a lot of documentaries. Doesn't mean anything. They can all be false. You create your own future. If there's one tonality of everything I'm saying, I've made hundreds of millions of dollars, I've had everything I wanted. You could kill me right now and I die the happiest guy alive. But I have learned some things. And I'm telling you, your first business probably won't be your billion dollar business. Sorry, facts, sorry. You have to learn like you have mastered. I have mastered the art of the hustle. You figuring out, buddy, if you can become a master adaptive learner, which means that you adapt instantly. So back, you know, if you studied evolutionary biology, which maybe no one has, but evolutionary biology from Darwinism, when he goes to the Galapagos, Galapagos island and sees a little tortoise, this is, whoa, that's different. What's the difference of us saying whoa, AI, that's different. What we are examining right now. So I'm so glad to be alive, for this is the biggest wealth transfer in economical History. Globally. Globally. This isn't like real estate. Nft, Bitcoin. No, stop. What we're talking about is the. All the wealth transferring. All of it. All of it. When there was Covid. That started now. Remember? How often does a pandemic happen? Every hundred years. Every hundred years, you'll be dead. I'll be dead in 100 years. No matter how much nad I'm taking, no matter how many on it and snow teeth whitening I'm doing, I will die in 100 years, guaranteed. If I don't, you can kill me. Whoever's listening, I'll pay you for it. I'll give you a little piece of my will. But if I'm not dead in 100 years, kill me. I'm fine with 100. I'm not trying to live 200 years.

[Sean Kelly]

Everybody.

[Josh]

Everybody else is trying to live 500 years. I'm chilling, dog. Because after about a million a year, you can buy everything you want and almost by anyone you want. So I'm good. What else do I need? A yacht that I can rent? A private jet that I can rent. I don't need to own it. I know exactly what it's like. I do not want to be president ever. So this is my first public declaration. Never elect me president. Even if I'm 60 years from now. I'm 81, like Biden and I'm running or Kamala. Do not vote for me. Remember this. Because I do not want to be president. The US that is not my job. My job is to be an entrepreneur, to learn what I've learned, to share with everybody and to help people get what they actually need. Because not everybody needs 100 million. Some people need 200 grand a year on passive income to live their ultimate life, to raise their children with fathers. It's not about the 100 million. It's about the 100% of what you need to be. And that is what clicked finally. I thought it was 100 million million a day. And then you make a million a day and you go, oh, I'm so not happy. That's fucked. That's fucked it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. That must have been a way to call for you. Jeez. Well, Josh, this has been one of my beard episodes. Honestly, man, I'm glad to see you again. It's been like four or five years since I've seen you.

[Josh]

So you keep growing. I keep growing, yeah. It's cool to take Ashwagandha.

[Sean Kelly]

Let's do it. I have it done yet.

[Josh]

Listen, hey, I gotta tell you something. I cannot tell you how proud I am of you.

[Sean Kelly]

Thanks, man.

[Josh]

No, really, this is an old t. I've known you forever. You have built a serious platform. A serious platform. And you have utilized and you have worked. No one knows how hard it is to be you. I do. That's why I choose to be on your podcast, not start your podcast. So I want people listening to recognize. He might not say. He might say much as it's on my podcast, but I think that. I think that I say this. Sean, you have built an incredible platform. You have built, and we get it. So many guests. I've watched as many episodes as I can. So for me to be a guest on your show is a huge, huge honor. But I will say, as a friend, you have built one of the best platforms for freedom of thought expression, like you have with me. You've set maybe a basket of words, but of course, friends. So we get along with it, but to let people be themselves, whether it's tricking pee or whatever it is, right, you let people be themselves. And I think that's a big area of platformization is letting people be themselves. And I think you've mastered that.

[Sean Kelly]

Appreciate that, man. It means a lot. Thanks for coming on, dude. That was fun.

[Josh]

Pleasure. I'll be on anytime, man.

[Sean Kelly]

Yes, sir. Thanks for watching, guys. Check out his links below to Next stop.

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[Josh]

Thank you.