Josh Terry: The Identity Trap Nobody Talks About | DSH #1728

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Episode: Josh Terry: The Identity Trap Nobody Talks About | DSH #1728
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Josh Terry
Date: January 3, 2026

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Main Theme/Purpose

This episode is a deeply personal and candid conversation between host Sean Kelly and guest Josh Terry, a podcaster and music industry personality known for his authenticity and "wild boy" persona. The discussion focuses on the "identity trap"—how personal identity can become intertwined with destructive behaviors, public perceptions, and cultural expectations. Together, they explore breaking free from unhealthy patterns, redefining success, healing from trauma, and the liberation that comes with authenticity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking Out of the Party Persona (00:00–03:09)

• Josh opens by discussing the dissonance between his real self and the "party boy" identity he felt pressured to uphold.
  • "I want to be who I am, and I don't want that to be based around alcohol or any substance." (A, 00:00)
  • He details how this persona was central to his early podcast success but became unsustainable and unfulfilling.

2. Chasing Attention and Childhood Trauma (03:09–04:30)

• Josh admits he craved attention, likely stemming from feeling overlooked in childhood.
  • “Oh, 100%. I’m a whore for attention. I love it.” (A, 03:15)
• He discusses how, over time, genuine validation comes from helping others succeed, not being the center of attention.

3. Legacy Over Popularity & Identifying Authentic Talent (04:30–06:40)

• Josh distinguishes between fleeting popularity and lasting legacy.
  • “Do you want to be popular or do you want to have a legacy?... I want to leave something behind.” (A, 02:06)
• He finds satisfaction in spotlighting new artists and telling impactful stories through his platform.

4. The Importance of Mental Health and Staying Authentic (06:40–08:22)

• Both discuss the stress of taking deals or jobs misaligned with personal values.
  • “Your mental health is the most important thing.” (A, 06:40)
• Authenticity builds lasting connections; manufactured personas are draining and ultimately unsatisfying.
• They highlight that “the more authentic you can be, the more real you can be,” the longer you maintain meaningful audience connection. (A, 08:07)

5. Lies, Self-Acceptance & The Cost of Living Inauthentically (08:22–10:40)

• Both share experiences of maintaining façades, telling lies, and the mental exhaustion it brings.
  • “I would make up lies, hoping that everybody else would believe my lies.” (A, 08:49)
• Josh describes a pivotal moment of self-acceptance and embracing uniqueness.
  • “Weird and unique are almost the same definition. And I like that I’m that way.” (A, 09:34)

6. Avoiding Regret—Taking Risks for Happiness (10:40–13:34)

• They agree it’s better to try and fail than to live with ‘what ifs.’
  • “I don’t think failure is what eats you alive. I think regrets.” (A, 11:03)
• Josh stresses living life “rehearsal” free—taking care of family, yes, but also doing what makes one happy.

7. Redefining Success: Happiness Over Material Wealth (13:34–17:52)

• Josh shares a transformative breakup that exposed his misaligned definition of success—chasing money over happiness.
  • “I realized that my success was happiness... Success isn’t money. Success is what actually brings you happiness.” (A, 15:20)
• He calls for personal definitions of success, free from materialistic standards.

8. Overcoming Poverty, Trauma, and Victimhood (20:23–29:01)

• Josh describes growing up poor, family struggles with addiction, and exposure to violence.
  • “You have to go through hell so you know what heaven’s worth.” (A, 21:01)
• He learned not to play “the victim,” turning adversity into motivation and insight for connecting with others.
  • “It might be chinks in your armor, but it’s also might be another piece of your armor.” (A, 22:19)

9. Intergenerational Trauma and Conscious Parenting (25:06–28:44)

• Josh recounts being his father's designated driver at age 15, recognizing a cycle of normalized dysfunction.
• He consciously chooses to parent differently, using past pain as a lesson.
  • “I'm a great dad... If it took all my trauma... to have the relationship with my child that I have, I'll do it again.” (A, 28:13)

10. Accountability, Ego Death, and Microdosing (29:23–31:54)

• Josh credits a psilocybin macrodose with killing his ego and helping dissolve anxiety and negative behaviors.
  • “It killed my ego. It changed my life.” (A, 30:07)

11. Handling Online Hate and the Importance of Thick Skin (31:54–34:54)

• Josh refuses to read comments: “I refuse to. I just... You don’t know what that person’s going through.” (A, 32:00)
• Both joke that even the most charitable actions attract online hate, referencing Mr. Beast.

12. Respecting Differences and Growth Through Discomfort (36:29–38:42)

• They discuss the value of learning from opposing perspectives—especially when discomfort is involved.
  • “Growth comes from uncomfortable. You don't learn in comfortable.” (A, 36:56)
• Sean reinforces, "Uncomfortable for me is where the most growth happens." (B, 37:41)

13. Defining Intelligence: Book Smart vs. Street Smart (38:42–40:15)

• Both agree social intelligence is as valuable, if not more, than traditional academia.
  • “Some stuff just doesn’t make sense to me. I’m not good with numbers. I think there’s different types of smart.” (A, 38:47)

14. Path Into Radio & Content Creation (40:15–43:54)

• Josh's journey from physical labor to radio, and the rise of digital content over terrestrial radio.
• He credits authenticity as the common thread among icons like Howard Stern, Rogan, and Theo Von.

15. Political Authenticity & Trump (43:54–46:42)

• Josh discusses appreciating Trump’s authenticity, regardless of agreement with his politics.
  • “Authenticity is winning these days. That’s why Trump won the election, to be honest. He was just himself.” (B, 43:54)
• Expresses independent views, prioritizing local impact and unity over rigid party lines.

16. Conspiracy Theories (47:16–52:13)

• The two touch on JFK, aliens (“I think they’re us, from past or future”—A, 49:04), and a variety of other conspiracies, including 9/11 and QAnon.

17. Controversy in Media: Confederate Flag & Unconditional Love (52:13–57:02)

• Josh describes radio experiences: discussing 9/11 skepticism, denouncing the Confederate flag, and advocating for inclusivity.
  • “Once a hate group adopts something, it… is always attached to hate.” (A, 53:51)
• He affirms parental unconditional love regardless of a child’s sexuality, invoking Christian principles:
  • “It is my job as a parent to love my child... In the Bible, it says you’re supposed to love thy neighbor.” (A, 56:47)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Identity & Partying:

  "I want to be who I am, and I don't want that to be based around alcohol or any substance."
  —Josh Terry (00:00)

• On Chasing Attention:

  “I'm a whore for attention. I love it.”
  —Josh Terry (03:15)

• On Legacy:

  “Do you want to be popular, or do you want to have a legacy?”
  —Josh Terry (02:06)

• On Authenticity:

  “The more authentic you can be, the more real you can be, the more you're going to have somebody that you have their attention forever because they see themselves in you.”
  —Josh Terry (08:07)

• On Regret vs. Failure:

  “I don't think failure is what eats you alive. I think regrets.”
  —Josh Terry (11:03)

• On Personal Happiness & Success:

  “Success isn't money. Success is what actually brings you happiness.”
  —Josh Terry (15:20)

• On Learning from Adversity:

  “God will let you go through hell so you know what heaven's worth.”
  —Josh Terry (21:01)

• On Parenting & Generational Cycles:

  “He had to make those mistakes for me to correct them.”
  —Josh Terry (26:02)

• On Ego Death:

  “It killed my ego. It changed my life.”
  —Josh Terry (30:07, re: psilocybin experience)

• On Handling Hate:

  “If they're that miserable that they're going out of their way to comment... their life sucks.”
  —Josh Terry (34:24)

• On Growth:

  “Growth comes from uncomfortable. You don't learn in comfortable.”
  —Josh Terry (36:56)

• On Parenting/Love:

  “It is my job as a parent to love my child... In the Bible, it says you're supposed to love thy neighbor. It doesn't say love thy neighbor if they're straight.”
  —Josh Terry (56:47)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Party Persona/Identity Trap: 00:00–03:09
• Attention, Childhood & Validation: 03:09–04:30
• Artist Platform & Legacy: 04:30–06:40
• Authenticity & Mental Health: 06:40–08:22
• Victimhood, Trauma, & Redemption: 20:23–29:01
• Psychedelics & Ego Death: 29:23–31:54
• Online Hate & Boundaries: 31:54–34:54
• Growth Through Discomfort: 36:29–38:42
• Political Authenticity: 43:54–46:42
• Conspiracy Roundtable: 47:16–52:13
• Confederate Flag & Unconditional Love: 52:13–57:02

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is open, raw, and at times vulnerable, with both participants sharing struggles and lessons learned about identity, authenticity, trauma, parenting, and cultural change. Josh’s outlook is that self-knowledge and owning one’s narrative can free you from both personal and societal traps, and that authentic connections—online and off—are built when you show up as your truest self.

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For More:

• Find Josh at jlterry87 on Instagram & "The Josh Terry Podcast".
• Listen to Digital Social Hour for more unfiltered, boundary-pushing dialogue.

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Transcript

[A]

I want to be who I am, and I don't want that to be based around alcohol or any substance. And I think that my identity got so connected to wild boy, party boy, whatever, and I just really got sick of it, like. And I still. Don't get me wrong, last night, I had a great time, but it's not who I want to be 24 7. It's not who I. And also, too, once I found out that people wanted to work with me outside of it, it's one of the biggest reliefs I've ever had. And I just love that now, like, I don't have to do that anymore.

[B]

Okay, guys, got Josh Terry here in Nashville.

[A]

So, Bubba, how's it going, my man? Thanks for having me, man. Absolutely.

[B]

And it's a city you don't like, apparently, but we're here.

[A]

Yeah. Nashville's not my fave, dude. I actually like being from the country. I come up here just to work, get stuff done, and I head back to Georgia as quick as I can.

[B]

Yeah, I feel. I feel that way about cities. It's good for grinding and working, but for living and raising a family, it's not the best environment.

[A]

Yeah, I. And live here. I also. I'm a glutton for a good time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And up here, you can have one at any moment, any time of the day. And I like to. I like to do nothing. I like the slow pace of where I'm from. If I was up here, I would never stop going. One reason why you haven't seen me running around all day is I had too much fun last night. So I've been in bed all day.

[B]

How late were you out last night?

[A]

Too late, boss. Too late. Too late. That's why I'm struggling a little bit.

[B]

You have an addictive personality.

[A]

You think, oh, 100. 100. I had to. I had to cut way back on my drinking last year. I was getting way too out of hand. And it's partly because of this job. Yeah. Partly being up here.

[B]

Do you drink on the show when you're filming your show?

[A]

I used to. I used to. So I used to think that's why everybody wanted to do it. Like, the success of the show, right off the bat, I thought that's what everybody wanted to do with me. And. And probably the first. If you were to listen to the first 100 to 200 episodes in there, the majority of them are a lot of alcohol. A lot of alcohol.

[B]

Rogan days.

[A]

Yeah. And, man, it's just. You get to a point to where that's it wasn't. One of the things I tell a bunch of the artists that we work with is, do you want to be popular or do you want to have a legacy? And I want to have a legacy. Like, I want to leave something behind, and I want to be known for something more than just a good time. And I think for a while there, I got known as just a good time. And that's not who I want to be.

[B]

That's how I felt in high school and college. People just using me for a good time.

[A]

Yeah. And that's just. I don't want to. I want to be who I am, and I don't want that to be based around alcohol or any substance. And I think that my identity got so connected to Wild Boy, Party boy, whatever, and I just really got sick of it. Like, and I still. Don't get me wrong, last night, I had a great time, but it's not who I want to be 24 7. It's. It's not who I. And also, too, once I found out that people wanted to work with me outside of it, it's one of the biggest reliefs I've ever had.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's. I just love that now. Like, I don't have to do that anymore.

[B]

So. Were you craving attention, you think?

[A]

Oh, 100%. I'm a for attention. I am a whore for attention. I love it.

[B]

Do you think that stems from childhood trauma?

[A]

Probably. Probably. I definitely didn't get my ego fed enough as a kid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wasn't the best athlete. It wasn't bad. I wasn't the prettiest kid. Didn't. Wasn't. It wasn't the prom king or nothing like that. So I, you know, I imagine with everything I do now with social media, the podcast, and all that kind of stuff, I. I definitely like attention.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But also, too, I get my validation and my attention now, like, different ways. Like, and I don't really. I'm never the person, too. Like, even when we do, like, our shows, I don't like to be in the spotlight anymore. Like, I really don't. I like to put other people in the spotlight. Like, that's. That's where I get my gratification now is, like, when I can put somebody else out there, I can help somebody else shine. Like, some of the artists and stuff that we work with. I don't know if you're like this, but there's something really special to me when you know that somebody has a great story or they have a talent and they're not getting the spotlight and you get to help them get the spotlight. Oh, dude, there's something about that that just.

[B]

Yeah, there's been a few guests that have come on my show and then that leads to them getting on a huge show like Rogan or something. It's just like, damn, I just changed that guy's life. Yeah, it's crazy.

[A]

It's something. It's something about that. It's. I don't mind being a stepping stone. Like if I got a. I got a buddy of mine and he would have 1000% made it in country music, regardless, Without a doubt. But I started bringing him up here, a guy named Cole Goodwin, about two years ago, and I played his first writers rounds and stuff with us. And like I said, somebody would have found him. But regardless, like, it doesn't even matter. But the fact that he started coming up here with us and it might have fast tracked him a little bit, that we introduced him to some folks and then he got to play the Ramen two weeks ago with Zach Top. Wow. It's like, that's the coolest thing to me that I was the first podcast that he did. The first. Some of the first songs that he ever released was on the podcast and our writers rounds, all that kind of stuff. And there's been some other folks. Riley Anderson, some other people. Guy that got second last year on American Idol. Will Mosley's first podcast, stuff he did was with us. That's incredible.

[B]

So you're good at spotting talent.

[A]

Early on, I'm just. I don't. I know what I like, and it seems like what I like a lot of other people. I just try to surround myself with those types of people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And that's one thing that I think has made us kind of successful too, is I don't go off brand. I'm really picky about who I will work with. I don't just work with anybody anymore just because they have a social media following. Just because you have a record deal. If I work with you, it's because I like you, I believe in you. I think that something that you are doing is going to help somebody or you just have something that I'm passionate about. I don't just look at your numbers anymore and be like, oh, this is going to be beneficial to me. I don't. I just. I just don't like that, to be honest with you.

[B]

Yeah, I've had to turn down lucrative deals because I knew it would affect my mental health. Yeah, I knew it would be stressful yeah.

[A]

Your mental health is the most important thing. Yeah. I. There was times that I've had guests on the show that I know that I got huge numbers for. Not your numbers, but it's all.

[B]

It's all relative.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In your space, huge numbers could be.

[A]

Yeah. You know, big numbers for me. But when I got done, I just was. I was kind of miserable after the episode, and it just was not. It was so unfulfilling. And then there's been times that I've had people on the show that have little to no following, but the stories that they would tell, the stuff that they would talk about, I knew that someone would hear those episodes, and it would actually do something to help someone's life. And it's like, this is. This is what I want to do. This is what I love. Like, this is. This is why the good Lord has put me in this position to where I'm doing this.

[B]

No, I'm with you on that, man. And it seems like the smaller guys can just be themselves on podcasts. Sometimes when you have a big following, you have to hold back.

[A]

Yeah. You know, well, everybody's got pr. They've got a publicist. They've got somebody who's telling them what they can and can't say.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that that is the worst thing, to be honest with you, because whether it's you, whether it's me, whoever it is, people want to identify with you. And once they identify with you, you got a fan, a follower. I don't even really like those words, to be honest with you. I always say family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You got somebody that. They want a connection with you. The more authentic you can be, the more real you can be, the more you're going to have somebody that you have their attention forever because they see themselves in you. They want to hear the realness from you. They want to hear the raw from you.

[B]

That's why Theo Vaughn crushes it.

[A]

Oh. Theo kills it. Theo is amazing.

[B]

He's just himself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Well, and also, too, I. I think it's just exhausting if you have to get up and you have to be somebody else every day.

[B]

No, it is because I used to live that way. I used to try to please everyone.

[A]

I tried, dude. I. I tried for the longest time, and it was mentally draining.

[B]

I got caught up with my own lies. I lost track of how many lies I was telling people about.

[A]

Dude. Same. I have a buddy that used to tell me when I was younger, I'd rather climb a tree until a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But the older I get, the more I realize I was just. I hated my life. I was just so miserable. I would make up lies, hoping that everybody else would believe my lies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I just hated reality. I didn't like anything about me, and I wanted everybody else pretty much to, to believe my. And when nobody else believed it, no one else fed into it. I kind of eventually had to have a reality check. I finally had to come. Had to come to Jesus meeting with myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And be like, you know what? You're good enough the way you are. Good Lord made you the way you are. Why are you fighting it? Why can't you just be you and be happy with being you? You're, you're weird. One of the things that I absolutely love, weird and unique are almost the same definition. And I like that I'm that way. I don't think that you're weird. I think you're unique. I, I, I'm the only person from my hometown, my graduating class, whatever, that does what I do for a living, and I'm probably the dumbest one out of that class, But I get to do what I want to do for a living because I decided to gamble on myself at 30 years old. I'm 37 now, but I decided to gamble on myself and chase my dreams to where there's other people that's in that class that have great degrees that are miserable because they never gambled on themselves. Right. And I, I guess when I got tired of living that lie and I started wanting to be me, I couldn't have made myself happier.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm very aware of leaving this world with regrets is something I don't want.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I constantly am digging that every day. I'm like, am I going to regret this if I don't do it?

[A]

Yeah. Well, what's the worst thing that's going to happen if you try and fail? At least you tried. Yeah, I'd rather try and fail now.

[B]

100.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'd rather try it and at least know what the outcome was than never doing it at all.

[A]

Absolutely. I mean, those regrets is what eats you alive. I don't, I don't think failure is what eats you alive. I think regress.

[B]

Saw with my dad, saw it with my grandfather.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They were living with regrets every day.

[A]

Yeah. I talked, I did this podcast with these two ladies. I can't remember the name of their show they had me on a couple of weeks ago. Unapologetic error. They had me on their show and I was explaining to them that I think this. It's like the sins of our fathers. Right? They didn't know any better. So I think for the longest time that they were taught, you get up, you go to work, you keep your head down, you. You get by. You just take care of your family. They were never taught how to live. They were just taught how to get by, how to take care of their family. There's nothing wrong with taking care of your family. You should take care of your family. But I don't think our dads and our granddads were ever taught how to live life. And I'm living my life. I'm also taking care of my family. But I made the conscious decision to. Where you only get one go around. You have to do the things that make you happy. And I think that's the best thing you can pass on to your friends and to your children and to your loved ones is you really only get this sitting address rehearsal. This is the. This is the real deal. This is showtime. You got to be doing the things that make you happy now. Otherwise, what are you doing? You're literally wasting the one chance you have at happiness.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's really what life is. You should be making yourself happy and the people that you love happy. If I love simplifying everything because I'm a. Like, the. The easier I can make everything in my life, the better I want to make the people in my life smile, happy, succeed. I want everything to be successful. All I want to do is just success. To me isn't just me succeeding. It's everyone succeeding. I don't want to be standing at the mountaintop by myself. I want everyone that I love and care about to be there with me. And I just think that the best way to do that and just the one big picture is just happiness. I know that's just stupid sounding, but the more you make everybody happy and comfortable around you, the more everybody just feels comfortable chasing their dreams and doing what they're passionate about.

[B]

It's infectious.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And other way around, too.

[A]

If you're.

[B]

If you're upset, that spreads, too. To other people.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Misery is just a disease.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's. I. Trust me, I grew up with that mess.

[B]

Same.

[A]

I. Dude, I. I promise you, my. My mom. My mom is. Was a basket case growing up. She's a little bit better now, but. Yeah, dude, it's. That was. That's probably where I didn't know. I don't think until my 30s I knew what happiness was. I know my daughter. I had her when I was 24. She's the best thing that's ever happened to me. But besides, for that aspect of my life, my child, I don't think I knew what it was like to be happy.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Years well.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I knew what it was like to get by. Temporary happiness.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, like, joy getting up every day, not being stressed. Not. Man, everybody's got a little bit of stress. Like, everybody be worried about something, but just getting up and just. You don't have the weight of the world on your shoulders.

[B]

Purpose.

[A]

Yeah. Like, having something that you actually love doing.

[B]

Well, there's a lot of guys lacking purpose right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I see it daily.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's. There's a lot of misdirection on social media. I think chasing materialism and stuff. And chasing woman.

[A]

Well, I think that every. I shouldn't say everybody. I think people identify success with materialistic things.

[B]

In America. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But for me, like, this. This literally happened last year. The woman I'm dating now, we've been all phenomenal for, like, two years, but we had a. We had a bad breakup last year because I was just. I was off the. I went off the deep end for a little while.

[B]

You did?

[A]

Oh, dude. I was. I was just drinking too much.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I was. I wasn't in a good place. Like, I was letting the success of the show in Nashville and everything kind of go to me, and I just wasn't taking care of my body. I just was. Too many late nights having too much fun like that. Just. It was just too much. And then she. She left me for a little while, and she had every right to. I just was not being a good man. And when she was gone, I realized, like, the thing that I was chasing for success at the time was money. And I realized when she was gone, like, that's. My success was gone. Like. And now that we're back and we're very happy and everything's really good, I realized that my success was happiness. And I don't think a lot of people realize, like, success isn't money. Success is what actually brings you happiness. And guys, especially men, like, you don't have to have money to be successful. You can have a great family, you can have great friends and be successful. And I just wish people would really sit down and look and figure out what actually is their definition of success. When I defined my definition of success, it made me put my priorities in order. And when My priorities got put in order. Life just really simplified itself.

[B]

Yeah. For me, wealth is part of success. I know everyone has different definitions, but it's not the main thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I, I do think having some wealth helps now.

[A]

I'd be aligned sex if I said I didn't want to be wealth. Trust me, I want money, but I just, I don't. It's not the top tier. It's not the number one thing is, is I. I want it. But at the same time, it's like, can you be happy without it? And now I know I can. Like, but also, I grew up poor. Like, we grew up poor. And. And that was another thing I had to get in my head is something I have to tell myself all the time. Like, even when brand deals and stuff approach me or people want to be sponsors and stuff on the podcast, it's like, you, I have to know my value. Right. And I don't have to sell myself short. If I spent 18 years of my life poor. Right. As a kid, a couple more years until I get what I deserve is okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If I. I mean, I'm not eating mayonnaise sandwiches no more. Don't get me wrong. But if I have to settle, then I'm selling myself short. I don't have to do that anymore. But I also don't have to let be treated like a doormat. I don't have to let people take advantage of me. It's either you're going to pay me what I'm worth now, or I don't have to work with you. I don't have to do it. And that's. That's also. That's freeing to know your own value and know your own worth.

[B]

Absolutely. That's important as a content creator. You're going to get all sorts of offers and you can't take them all.

[A]

Yeah. And also with me. And I'm sure you're the same way. I don't. I think when I first started getting some popularity on social media, I think that I took everything right off the bat. Like, I would get. And now it's like, I don't want to work with this company.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I don't have to. I try to stay on brand, is what I'm saying. Like, I know the companies I want to work with, and if it just doesn't fit me, I don't have to do it. And like, I wish more people would do that. Like, you don't have to take it. And I wish I would have known that back then.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah. So you probably don't have to. You can probably do whatever hell you want now. I'm trying, man. I'm just trying. You're killing it, dude.

[B]

Yeah. Did you know how poor you were growing up? Or was it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, because my. Okay, so the rest of my family's wealthy. My mom and dad are not. They made. They did stuff their own way. And, like, so there's a lake where we're from. It's called Trips Beach. And all my family lives at this lake. It's a very nice place. And my family never. My mom and dad didn't want to live there. They didn't want to live under the rest of the family. And so, like, we would go to school and the rest of the family would have on, let's just say Old Navy. And I know that's not like an expensive brand or whatever, but they'd have on Old Navy, we'd have on Walmart. Like, it would just be, like, little things. And, like, when I say poor, it's not like we were living off government assistance or whatever, but we didn't have certain things that our friends had. Like, they're, they're. Until we got to, like, high school. And my dad's business blew up a little bit. But then there was some drug addiction that came along and then we lost everything again. Yeah. So it was, it was a lot. It was a lot. Lot of domestic violence and like that. Yeah, well, it was, it was on both sides. I've seen. I'm. I'm a little up, but also too, I'm a firm believer in, man, God will let you go through hell. So you know what heaven's worth. So, like, I am the. I'm the person I am today because of that stuff. Like, I can. I don't. I don't like people that play victim. I had to go through that. Like, I had to see stuff as a kid that you're not supposed to see. But it makes it to where. When I'm talking to people and like when I'm dealing with stuff like that, it almost like it, it might be chinks in your armor, but it's also might be another piece of your armor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it, it makes you stronger. It makes you a better armor person. It makes you better equipped for the battle. And like, I'm kind of grateful for some of that stuff. Like, I even. Like when I was in my. From like 18 to 21, I was a. Like I got in trouble with law. I did 60 days in a boot camp one time and 90 days in a boot camp another.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

But dude, I'm telling you, like, I'm doing a show with a big country artist next week and they, They've done hard time. And I know that that's how we'll connect next week. And I will end up building a relationship, I believe, because I know that's how we'll connect. Right. If I wouldn't have gone through those experiences and I wouldn't have had that connection or done that stuff, I wouldn't be able to build that connection with this guy. Right. And it's like I could look back at that and I could be like, damn, am I a victim? Am I just a. Or could I take the negative in that and turn into a positive?

[B]

And that's the key right there. Because everyone goes through negative things, but a lot of people victimize it.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

I'd say 80, probably.

[A]

Yeah. And I love cliches. I love, I love this. Like I said, I love simplifying everything.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I love that it's already happened to you. Now let it happen for you. Me. And that's what I try to do. Like all the bad stuff, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All the bad that's ever happened to me, but it's all the best stuff. That's ever happened to you? It's all the bad stuff that's ever happened to anybody, it's already happened. Like, do something about it. Like, don't let it be. It can be fuel in your tank. It can be what literally drives your car, or it can be the thing that cripples your car.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Which one's it going to be?

[B]

Absolutely. Yes. You had to grow up quick then.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you worked for your dad for a bit.

[A]

Yeah, I was. I was probably 30 years old by the time I was 18. Like 100, I was. I was having to be the DD at 15. Damn. Yeah, dude. Like, I've. There's been several times that I've had to.

[B]

Your own parents you had to do.

[A]

Yeah, for my dad, so. My dad owned a drywall company, and he. The town that was blowing up real big, it's called Warner Robbins, Georgia. It's about an hour away from where we lived and his subdivision and all that and everything, the subdivisions up there that were blowing up, we would go and he. That's where they would work at. Yeah. And he would drink after work, and if I was there working with him, he'd go to the bars and everything. And I'd have to sit outside the bars in the truck or I'd get to go in the bars or whatever and hang out and. Yeah. I'd have to drive home afterwards.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your own father.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Seeing him just blackout drunk.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But. But also, too. It's like I was telling you earlier, is what's normalized. That was normalized to him growing up. I don't knock him for it anymore. Like, he didn't know no better. His dad did it to him. It's whatever. See, I used to be so pissed off at him about it. So mad. I was like, how could you ever. How could you ever do this to your kid? Right. But if he didn't know any better, he never saw the wrong in it. And that's with anything. If you literally did not know that it was wrong, how did you ever know it was wrong?

[B]

Right.

[A]

He didn't know about it. His dad never told him that that was wrong because he was doing it to him. So he just thought it was another thing. And then when I turned 18, my dad was buying us beer, me and all my friends. Because he thought that's what you did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so. But also, this is what's great about it, though, is if you believe in growth and you have kind of the mindset that I have and I hope a lot of people do is I took what he did wrong and I applied it to my child, to where I know now not to do. And I just knew that if it wasn't for him making those mistakes, I couldn't correct them. And that's. Once again, it's not playing the victim, though. Like, I. I'm glad he did it now. To where a couple years ago, I didn't have that mentality, but he had to make those mistakes for me to correct him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it sucks.

[B]

Yeah. Did you ever have a conversation with him about this?

[A]

Yeah, we talked about it. We talked about it.

[B]

Was he apprehensive?

[A]

Oh, yeah. He don't think he's. Yeah, it's not. We would be a very good family to go to therapy if they'd ever go to therapy. But that's never happened. Yeah, dude, it's. But once again, like, I. I've done my work and I'm gonna keep doing my work with everything like that. Yeah. From my mental health. But I. I've. I've forgiven and I. I've done what I've had to do. They probably won't, because, like I said, they don't think they've done anything wrong.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But it's. It is what it is, man.

[B]

If people aren't ready to change, there's nothing you could say. You could provide facts and they won't care.

[A]

Absolutely not. But that's not. That's not my battle. I'm not, you know, I'm a Christian. I'm not their judge, their jury, or their executioner. You know, I got to answer for my sins. I got to answer for the things that I've done wrong. I don't get to get to Pearly Gates and tell on anybody else.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I got asked. Me. That's me and God. So if that's their battle, if they don't want to go down that road, they're not going to go down that road.

[B]

Makes sense. It's going to make you a better.

[A]

Parent in the long run. Oh, I know. Well, that's one thing, too. I'm a great dad. I might be a piece of. In every other aspect of my life, but I have a great relationship with my daughter. She is my best friend. She's 13.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

And we are super close. We do everything together. And if it took, like I said, all my trauma and all my. That I had to go through as a kid to make it to where I have the relationship with my child that I have, I'll do it. Again. Yeah. It's. It's just some things have to happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. It took me forever to have that mindset, though. And it's also the best. Once you get that mindset, it changes your entire life.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

It does. Like, it made me so much better of a person and healthier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like, it just, it fixed me.

[B]

I can relate. I had that victim mindset probably until I was early 20s.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I used to blame my parents for everything, literally everything. If we got an argument, it was their fault. I was never wrong. But I had to realize I had to take some accountability. You know, once I went off on my own, I'm like, they were just doing what they knew. How can I blame them for that?

[A]

Yeah. Accountability is huge. And I don't think I realized that till even recently to like last year I did. I did a, A psilocybin trip, a macro dose. I had micro dosed for a while.

[B]

I'm a big microdose fan. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Somebody talked me into it and then I heard Rogan and everybody talking about it for that longest time and I was like, okay, so you did an eighth? Yeah, and then I did a macro. So I did like a full on trip.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

And I was scared at first, but like I had been. I was going through like a, a lot of stuff at the time. And when I did that, when I did the whole on trip, it. It killed my ego. It like it changed my life.

[B]

Ego death, they call it.

[A]

Yeah, dude, it. It did something, man. It like, it really did change everything that I was holding on to. It changed everything. Like it just, it killed it all and it helped. I'll never. I don't, like, I don't even think I'll have to ever micro dose again.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it, it. My anxiety used to be so bad with everything and like, I don't even like trip out about nothing hardly anymore. I used to have such a bad, like trigger to where like if you pissed me off, like, not. I'm not a fighter. Like, I don't like fighting. But I, I'm real quick to give you my opinion and not always in the healthiest way, but I don't even do that hardly anymore. Like, it's just, it's so counterproductive. Like, and it's just a waste of time. I can sit here and tell you go to hell, and that's just going to start a conversation that I don't want to have. Or I can just walk away. Yeah. Like, I just don't have to do things. Like. And. And that was one of the things that taught me was why are you wasting your time? Like, if you're not. One of the sayings that I've learned recently is if I don't care about. If I'm not going to ask you for your opinion on something, if I don't value your opinion on something, then why do I care what you think about me? Like, why do I. I don't. I shouldn't care if you're gonna talk trash or you're gonna say something negatively towards me or whatever. Then it just shouldn't matter what you say about me. If I don't care about anything that you say or do to me.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Like, it doesn't matter.

[B]

You need that mindset on social media.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there's a lot of hate.

[A]

Well, I don't read comments anyway.

[B]

Oh, you don't read them?

[A]

I refuse to. I. I refuse to. I just. You don't. Never. Once again, you just don't know what that person's going through in the first place. What's. What could have set them off. They could be having the worst day of all time. And it could be a. Just a flinch reaction, why they're saying something in the first place, or it could be a troll, it could be a kid. It could be somebody just talking out their ass, like, for no reason. It could just be something stupid. Or it could just be somebody who just feel would hate. And I'm not giving anybody that's just a hateful person, a racist or a bigot or whatever, a homophobe or something like that. I'm just not giving you any of my time. Yeah. I refuse to. Like, I just. I cannot stand those people. If you're a hateful person, just. I just. I have nothing for you. We have a lot of different walks of life on my show from different communities, and I love all walks of life. I always say that I love everybody equally, and I hate everybody equally. I don't care what your background is, what race you are, who you love. I don't care. It's how you treat me is how I'm gonna treat you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've got people where I'm from that look exactly like me that I can't stand, that I. I hate white trash, probably the most of all people because that's what I grew up with, that I think are the worst people of all time. And they're the ones that have been the meanest to me. So if that people like me have been the meanest to me, I have no reason to dislike them more than anybody else. Right. So I just refuse to read comments or even give anybody a minute of my time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's just no sense in it. It's just stupid.

[B]

Did it used to trigger your anxiety?

[A]

Yeah, because I could have a hundred great comments and there'd be one negative one and that's the one I'd focus on and I'd just be like, why am I, why am I even buying into this?

[B]

Yeah. It's funny how human nature does that. I've heard that from many people where it'll be that one comment out of a thousand and it ruins their day.

[A]

Does it do to you?

[B]

No. But I had to grow thick skin. Yeah, it definitely used to, but now I'm getting so many comments that I know it's just a numbers game. So I'm going to get hate no matter what. I could save 100 lives. Like Mr. Beast is out here saving people's blindness and he'll still get hate on that video.

[A]

Yeah, you, you just can't fix misery, dude. Like, if, even if it is a legit real person, they have to be the worst. They're having the worst life. I, I think life's already. Instead of commenting back, I just like to think life's already won and took care of it for me. If they're that miserable that they're going out of their way to comment on one of my videos or on something that they're that bad off. Oh God, their life sucks.

[B]

Yeah, I never comment back. It's not worth it.

[A]

Oh yeah. I used to like, like in the early days of Tick Tock or something. Like I'd clap back, I'd make you. But also too, I would only do it to idiotic white males. I really would like nobody else, but that's usually the only ones that would say anything. Anyway. We had a show one time way back in the day and I think it was during the, the last election and I had a guy from my hometown who's. He's marrying someone who's transitioning and this guy is, he's well known where we're from and he likes to argue with everyone on social media. Right. And it's one of my favorite shows because he's just a different walk of life now. Me and him don't agree on anything really politically or whatever. Right. But he's well versed, he's very smart, he's super and like very intelligent guy. And I'm big on why. If I ask you a Question and you just. And you respond with because I said so, or something like that. Like, you don't have the facts. Whatever. Back it up. I kind of lose respect for you. But if I ask you a question and you can tell me why you believe in something, regardless if I agree with you or not, I can respect your opinion.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I can 100% respect. Because then at least you know why you believe in it.

[B]

Yeah. If you're just backing it with emotion, I can't respect that.

[A]

Yeah. I have nothing.

[B]

That's her mentality.

[A]

Yeah. That's, that's stupid to me. And there were a lot of very negative comments that I had this guy on the show and there was a lot of. And it was stupid dudes. It looked just like me. And I was like, if you would listen to this episode. This guy is just be. He's living a happy life. Why do you care who he's marrying? Why. Why does it matter?

[B]

How does it affect you?

[A]

Yeah. Like, people can't stand uncomfortable. I love uncomfortable. Growth comes from uncomfortable. You don't learn and comfortable. I. The more places you put me to where I'm uncomfortable, that means I have no knowledge of my surroundings. I don't know what is going on. That means I have to intake something. That's the only way you get growth. It's the only way you get knowledge. And people just. Unfortunately, a lot of folks uncomfortable just makes them shut down. Makes them to where once you accept that uncomfortable is okay. Is. I think I just love that I just. And there's some people there just it freaks them out.

[B]

Uncomfortable for me is where the most growth happens. To be honest, when I'm discomfort, like uncomfortable with something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like that's how you can find answers that you're not exposed to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because we all live in our own bubbles.

[A]

Yeah. I'm tired of living in a bubble, dude. I, I, I want to, I want to be in the weirdest places. Like, it's, you know, if all you ever did was eat cheeseburgers, like, you would not know how great sushi was. Like, sushi's my favorite thing in the world. And I didn't start eating until like four years ago.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah. All I would eat was the most basic ass food. And if you applied that just something that simple to everything else in your life, like, you don't know what all you're missing. You don't know what great people you're not connected with. You don't know what great music you're not listening to. You Just. You don't know. You. You don't know what places you haven't been to yet that are beautiful.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. You just don't know what great conversations you're not having just because you don't know what's out here. Like, don't be scared of it. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. You said you were earlier. You said a few times you don't think you're smart. Was that because of school? Your grades?

[A]

I'm dyslexic, for one. I hate reading, but I say not smart. Some stuff just doesn't make sense to me. Like, I'm not good with numbers or anything like that either. I think there's different types of smart.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I'm street smart now. Like, I'm a hustler.

[B]

I'd argue street smart is more important than book smart.

[A]

Yeah. I think there's a. There's definitely a place for it. Like, I have. I could never be a doctor or anything, but I could be a politician. Yeah, you're good at talking.

[B]

You don't have to.

[A]

I could run some shit. Yeah. Smart. So like I said, it's a different ones. Yeah. Yeah. Street smart.

[B]

Yeah. I used to tie my identity to my grades.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I based that off intelligence level schools.

[A]

Yeah. I know a lot of smart people.

[B]

That are really stupid with grades.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah, same. In fact, most of my friends either dropped out or got terrible grades. But they're making millions. They're having a great life.

[A]

Yeah. Well, that's crazy to me. Like, where we're from, we have regular college and we have tech school. And most people that went to tech school are making way more money than the people that went to college.

[B]

Oh, I bet.

[A]

And it's like. But they're actually like aircraft mechanics, sheet metal workers, and all that kind of stuff. And growing up, though, if you went to tech school, it meant you were stupid.

[B]

I remember that.

[A]

And now there was a lot of shame.

[B]

I grew up if we went to the tech school.

[A]

Yeah. And now it's like, you guys are dumbasses because they're the ones with the nice houses, the nice trucks.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's because my generation doesn't want to do physical labor jobs.

[A]

I don't want to physical over. If I had to do man, shit, now, it would be the worst.

[B]

I've got a taste of that. This life.

[A]

Oh, dude, I. I haven't had to do physical labor in, like, seven years now.

[B]

You got to do it with your father for years, so.

[A]

Oh, dude. Well, from the time I was 15, to, like, 28 or 29.

[B]

Jeez.

[A]

Yeah. Even before that, though, like, we was always, like, we coming from a farming community. So, like, even before that, like, going out to my uncle's farm and stuff. Like, even as a kid, like, working out there, like, I've always done it. I just. My dream growing up was to work in radio. Like, ever since I watched Private Parts. The Howard Stern movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I guess my. That's.

[B]

I gotta watch that one.

[A]

Oh, do you never seen it?

[B]

No. Howard Stern's the goat.

[A]

Oh, dude. Ever since I saw that as a kid, it was. I knew I wanted to do it. Like, but where we're from. Oh, you were a crazy person if you even said that. A crazy person. But I knew I always wanted to work in radio. And then when social media started taking off for me, a guy who was on. He was Dave Stone. Love you, Dave. He was on. It was Axemen. I think it's Axman. Swamp Loggers. That's what on History Channel. He. He had a radio show in South Georgia, and he was following me on social media and asked me if I wanted to come do some shows with him. I went down there, and then about a week or two later, like, three or four different radio stations in Georgia reached out to me, and we're like, we'd love to have you come do it. And then I ended up working for one and then getting an award about a year later, had the number one radio show in the state of Georgia.

[B]

Wow, that's impressive, man. Hats off to you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Right time, right place. Because now radio is taking a hit, right?

[A]

Oh, it's done.

[B]

I can take it.

[A]

Done. Well, this is what I even pitched them then when they hired me is like, terrestrial radio is dead because of our phones. Like, it's. It's over with. But, like a shot. There's still value in a shock jock while you're still value. And when I say shock jock, if you're putting out something that nobody else is. So, like, every single radio station in the country gets a prep sheet every morning that are almost identical. You just have to put out a different content. You're a content creator. You do your own content.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So what I pitched them is, hey, let me do my own content. And I did. And so people tuned in because it wasn't like every other radio.

[B]

That's what Howard Stern did, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He had on the craziest guests.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You gotta be insane. I'm glad he mellowed out a little bit there towards the end. Yeah.

[B]

He's still going at it, right? He's still got a show.

[A]

Yeah, he's got a show. I haven't listened to it forever, but yeah, he, he, they just put out a, a documentary about him. I just watched it not long ago. He's a, he's a, he's a character dude. Like, he's, he just always. There was something about him. He made it being himself. And that's what I love. Anybody this, that does that, that to where you are just. You get acknowledgement for being you. And he is the king of that. To me, Rogan's the king of that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like to Theo, anybody that does that to where they're just authentically themselves, they don't have to play a character. There's something that I absolutely love. That's why, like, even my show or anything I do on social media, I'm just me. I don't try to play a character. I just want to be known for being me.

[B]

Well, authenticity is winning these days. That's why Trump won the election, to be honest. He was just himself.

[A]

I think everybody was just tired of. Yeah. And like, I'm not. I'm an independent anyway. I don't like the two party system. I think that regardless of who you like and who you don't, when it comes to politics, I think you're supposed to vote for who is best for your household.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And who's best for your community. And this last election, Trump was what was best for my household. And I'm not the biggest Trump guy. Like, I think that he's best for our country out of the other option.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But also, I wish he showed up a little bit.

[B]

He's definitely mellowed out since you got to say that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that. But also my biggest flaw with him from the last time he was president was if he would have just shut up, we would have been okay. Like, I. But also what I do love about him is he's not. He brought on rfk, he's brought on all these other people. He's turned some big Democrats into Republicans. Yeah. Like, that's what we needed. Like, he's, it's. He's bringing everybody together. Like, regardless of anybody else says, like, no one's done that before. Like, there's unity where there was division.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like I'm, I love that. And the fact that even, like. And I'm obviously a big Rogan guy anyway, but the fact that even as skeptical as Rogan is about people, the fact that he's kind of like Cheering for him now too. Yeah, like there's obviously something there. I, I don't know. I. He's. I'm. He's starting to win me over a little bit more every day.

[B]

Yeah. We'll see how his, his term goes. It's been a pretty crazy start, right?

[A]

It's been weird.

[B]

A lot of stuff happening.

[A]

Yeah. There's nothing I really don't agree with yet. It's kind of the, the ICE stuff so far with some people getting deported. Some of it's a little much. But also too. If you get murderers and rapists and all these gang members out of here, I'm so cool with that shit. Yeah. If there's one or two casualties of it, it's casualties war, dude. Like I hate that people. Some stuff gets umbrella and when stuff you can't help some shit.

[B]

Yeah. If you think long term. One or two casualties versus if they keep importing all these drugs. How many people are going to die from that?

[A]

Yeah. Not enough people. Think about that shit. In Georgia we had. I. I think her name was Riley. And I'm so sorry to the family if I mess that up, but we had a girl get killed on a campus.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

From an illegal gang member that was selling drugs and all this other stuff. Raped and killed a girl. And I would guarantee if you ask that family if they're okay with somebody getting deported or whatever that maybe shouldn't. Or some kid having to go back due to safety. Like if they. I think everybody's okay with it. They would much rather it be safer and there be a casualty. It's just going to happen. Like I, I don't, I don't see how anybody can even about it. I don't see how anybody can even fuss about it.

[B]

Hate him or love him. He is sticking to a lot of his promises. He just released the JFK files yesterday.

[A]

Yesterday? Yeah, of course he did. When I'm not where I can read it.

[B]

10,000 pages. You're not going to be able to read it.

[A]

Oh God.

[B]

What I'm doing is I'm going on Twitter and just reading the summaries because there's no time for 10,000 pages.

[A]

What do you think actually happened?

[B]

It's looking like a group of people. It's looking like the mob. It's looking like CIA and maybe another group.

[A]

Did you, did you ever watch the movie that Kevin Costner did? The JFK movie?

[B]

No. That was the first one, right? Yeah.

[A]

It's like back in the 90s.

[B]

I heard about that one.

[A]

You need to Watch it. Oh, it's so good. I am a conspiracy theory nut anyway.

[B]

So am I. We're going to end off with some of these.

[A]

I'm big into that one. I think. 100%. They took it well, you know, like, he was the first one who wanted, like, to end the cabal. He's the first person to ever mention, like, the world cabal and all this other kind of stuff and everything. I think CIA took him out is. There's so many things that. It's so weird how everything played out.

[B]

With that and everyone that was involved got killed.

[A]

Yeah. Nobody seemed like.

[B]

Yeah. I think CIA was involved.

[A]

100. And the mob being connected. The mob's always been connected with CIA, though. Yeah, always. It would just make 100. Or it'll make so much sense they.

[B]

Could just put the blame on them.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

What other conspiracies you into?

[A]

Oh, aliens.

[B]

You believe in aliens? I feel like that's not even a conspiracy anymore.

[A]

I know. Yeah. Let's see. I don't think it is at all. I also think the aliens, though. I think they're. This is where I'll go off the deep end. I think that Reptilians. No, not Reptilians. I. I think whenever we say aliens, though, I think they're us. I just think they're like us, either from past or future. Okay, so like how they say that every 12,000 years, whatever it is, there's like a cataclysm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or whatever. I think that probably what has happened is that what, we were more advanced at one point in time because, like, pyramids are pretty much proof that that is the case, that there was more advanced. Because there's no way that got built by.

[B]

You can't even build it right now.

[A]

No, you can't. So I think that probably what happened is they knew that something was coming, world is fixing to end, they took off, and they come back every now and then.

[B]

Really?

[A]

My thinking is, is if you knew that the world was about to end, especially if it was like, man made, like, nuclear war, whatever, you would take off. Like, if you were smart enough to. Where you could get away, you would take off. And now you come back every once in a while just to see how things going.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if it's coming back now and you're like, oh, these morons are building the same stuff that got us blew up in the first place. Yeah. You might do a drive by. You're not stopping. You're not hanging out. I don't. I don't See why you don't stop, why you don't hang, why you don't stay. You know, if it's just aliens, if it's just whatever, I think there would be more of them hanging around. It's just weird that they don't stay.

[B]

Do you think they're us from the future?

[A]

Yeah, I can see that. I think I've heard that one before. Yeah, that would make most sense. Otherwise it's like if you're that advanced, you could just kill us all and just take over everything. Why not?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like why are you just doing drive bys?

[B]

Absolutely. What about time travel? You believe in that one?

[A]

Kind of. I kind of went down the loophole with QAnon.

[B]

Yeah, that guy on the pod, the one with the horns. Oh, did you J. Sixer? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

I got banned on Tick Tock for that one.

[A]

Really? Yeah, I had to listen to that one.

[B]

He knows too much. Really. I mean think about it. That the Qanon, they hacked into everything. They know a lot of stuff.

[A]

Oh, dude, I might listen to that one.

[B]

Yeah, well, it got taken down, but.

[A]

I'll send you sent to me. Yeah, but yeah, dude, some of that stuff with the. What is it? The, the baron Trump, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, that there's some weird stuff, I think time travel or what was it, Einstein that said that it was possible Anyway, someone really smart.

[B]

Yeah. And then Trump's uncle had Nikola Tesla's documents.

[A]

Yeah. What are the odds of that?

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yeah, there's some weird stuff, dude.

[B]

Like another billionaires.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, wouldn't that make sense? Like I know me, if I could time travel, what would be the first thing I'd do? I'd make sure that my grandparents had money. That way I had money. It makes the most sense. I want to be the richest person ever. So I tell you what land to buy, how to do it and everything. Then I'd come back and live my life now just richer.

[B]

Get some bitcoin.

[A]

Yeah, I still don't understand bitcoin. I don't understand any of that.

[B]

There's no understanding to it. It's just all speculative.

[A]

I've had so many people try to get me to invest or buy some of that stuff and it's like, man, I have no idea.

[B]

I think you're too late now. I mean, who knows? I might look dumb in 10 years.

[A]

Yeah, I do. You have a lot of it.

[B]

Yeah, you know, but I got in early, so did you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I know nothing about Any of it. Yeah. What's some of the conspiracy theories that you like?

[B]

Government? Well, I don't want to get this video deleted. 911 is a crazy rabbit hole.

[A]

Oh, dude. 100%.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was a job.

[B]

Super fishy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The way it went on, one of.

[A]

The things I got in trouble for when I worked in radio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I talked about it for, like, a good 30 minutes one day, and let me tell you, you don't do that.

[B]

Not in radio.

[A]

Oh, man. Well, we're so close to Robbins Air Force Base, where we're from, and, dude, we got so many calls, and that was about the time I got fired. I got. I got fired for some stupid shit.

[B]

What'd they tell you the reason was?

[A]

There's like. There was, like, three reasons, so. Okay. I don't support the Confederate flag.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's a very taboo thing where I'm. Where I live, because a lot of people still wave or still have it. I didn't know this. Everywhere.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

But my thing is, I have a bunch of friends that are not of my skin tone, and I know what it means to them. It doesn't mean a damn thing to me. My dad's got a Confederate flag tattoo, or he did. He got it covered up. But it don't mean a damn thing to me. It's not heritage to me. It don't mean hate to me. It literally. I don't give a shit about it. It doesn't mean anything to me. But I've seen where hate groups have adopted it, and to me, once a hate group adopts something, it doesn't. It's always a hate group, but it's always attached to hate. It doesn't matter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, I mean, that's the same thing with, like, a swastika, right? Like, a swastika was a symbol of peace before the Nazis adopted it. But you. Nobody gives a shit about it being a symbol of peace before that. It's this hate symbol now. Right. And I made that argument on radio one day when we were talking about when NASCAR banned the Confederate flag, like, in 2020, that you couldn't fly it no more at their. At their races. And Sons of the Confederacy, which is a group in Georgia, and it might be everywhere, but I know it's in Georgia. They. They call it in death threats to the radio station. And I got in trouble for that. They said I was riling people up. And. But what was really cool about it, though, and what made it worth it, there was a woman. She was. She was in her 80s, I think. She. She told me how old she was. I can't remember, but she had told me. She called in and she said, I've never thought about it the way you just said it. She said, I've always thought it was heritage, and I've never seen how anybody could think it was hateful. I've never understood that till right now.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And it's like, this woman's live 80 years and never had it explained to her why people see it as hateful, like, how they could. And me explaining it to her and comparing it to where the swastika and everything, like, it changed her mind. And that's just one person. So, like, in radio, you call, like, P1 callers. If for every one that actually calls in, there's probably another hundred that would like to, and they just don't. So for her to actually call and say something, and that was cool to me.

[B]

That is cool.

[A]

So it's like, you know those guys that call and did death threats? It was worth it. And then there was some other. There was some other stuff that I said that there's a. There's a. There was a comment about. I don't. Like I said, I don't care who you love. I don't care. I'm. I'm all about what you do behind closed doors, what you do. I don't give a. It just. It does not bother me. And there was somebody. I made that comment on radio, and somebody called in and said, well, what if your daughter turns out to be a lesbian? And I was like, that's cool with me. I was like, we can go to softball games and look at softball players, asses together, like, just playing, like, just joking around. And this woman got irate with me.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And, like, just pissed off. And I said, look, I'm gonna love my daughter regardless. I don't care. I was like, why are you worked up about it? I was like, it is my job as a parent to love my child. I don't. It doesn't put stipulations on it. Like, I. I don't care. I'm supposed to love her unconditionally. And in the Bible, it says you're supposed to love thy neighbor.

[B]

Neighbor.

[A]

It doesn't say love thy neighbor if they're straight. It doesn't say love thy neighbor if they're gay. It says, love thy neighbor. Yeah. And you are picking and choosing what you want to believe in.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I'm just loving my neighbor. So that one's on you, bud, not me.

[B]

Bars Josh. We'll have to do a part two of just conspiracies.

[A]

But hey, dude, whenever you want to. Yeah.

[B]

Until then, where can people find you, man?

[A]

Jlterry87 on Instagram. That's best one in the Josh Terry podcast.

[B]

Awesome. We'll link below. Thanks for watching, guys. See you next time.

[A]

Thanks, man.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Boom. That was good, dude.

[B]

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