Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly

Guest: Joshua David Earp
Episode Title: The Government Isn’t Real, Reality Isn’t Real And Neither Are You | DSH #1676
Date: December 11, 2025

Episode Overview

In this provocative episode, Sean Kelly welcomes back Joshua David Earp—actor, producer, entrepreneur, and advisor to billionaires—for an unfiltered exploration of reality, power structures, and the roots of belief. The conversation traverses government and mind control, spirituality, secret societies, simulation theory, clandestine history, and deep conspiracies, closing with a discussion about money and control. Joshua continually emphasizes questioning the mainstream narrative and the importance of independent thought, peppered with memorable stories and mind-bending ideas.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Nature of Government and Reality

• Questioning Institutions:
  • Joshua begins by challenging the very existence of “government,” asking if it’s anything more than an idea or agreement ([00:00], [21:08]).
  • “The government doesn't actually exist. You know, what is the government? Is it a building? Is it a group of people? Is it a location? Is it an idea? What is the government? Ultimately, no one can say.” — Joshua ([00:00], [21:08])
• Reality as Illusion:
  • Quotes Alan Watts, highlighting how reality defies precise definition.
  • Connects to the concept of belief: what exists only does so because people collectively agree it does.

Personal Philosophy, Imposter Syndrome & Freedom

• Achievement & Genius:
  • Shares advice from Steve Lindsey: “The geniuses think they're imposters and the imposters think they're geniuses.” ([01:44])
• Security vs. Freedom:
  • Wears a “security” shirt as commentary on Franklin’s warning about trading freedom for security ([02:31]).
  • “If we trade our freedom for security, then we neither deserve nor [get] freedom or security... that's why they call prison maximum security. Security is actually not what you want.” — Joshua ([02:31])
• Theme of Questioning:
  • Urges listeners to question everything, including religious dogma: “Even the gospel should not be taken as gospel.” ([02:31])

Freemasonry, Mystery Traditions, and Religion

• Historical Controversies:
  • Explains the roots of Freemasonry and their influence ([03:50]-[05:38]).
  • References the mathematical structure of ancient languages and positions Hebrew as mathematics-based.
• Religion and Control:
  • Explores etymologies: religion (from “religare,” union), yoga (“yug,” union), spirit (“spire,” to breathe) ([09:00]-[12:57]).
  • Suggests that spiritual texts, including the Book of Revelation, might serve as blueprints for social control ([10:31]-[11:48]).

Media, Perception, and Mind Control

• Media & Illusion:
  • Points out that “media” comes from “Medea,” the Greek goddess of illusion ([21:08]).
• Mind Control, Etymology of Government:
  • Breaks down “government” to “govern” (control) + “-ment” (mind), arguing that government literally means “mind control” ([18:27]).
  • “Do I believe in mind control? That would be the same thing as asking do I believe in government? ... I actually don't. I don't believe in government. You know, I don't believe in mind control. Let me tell you why.” — Joshua ([18:55])

Secret Societies and Signs and Symbols

• Initiations & Declining Membership:
  • Joshua claims he was invited to join powerful secret societies two levels above the Bavarian Illuminati, declined, but was given a commemorative coin ([16:38]-[16:59]).
• The World Run by Signs and Symbols:
  • Asserts that “this world is not governed by law, nor words. It is governed by signs and symbols.” ([17:23])
• Origins of Freemasonry & Knowledge:
  • Advocates reading “Morals and Dogma” (Pike) and “Encyclopedia of Freemasonry” (Mackey) ([06:26]).

The Matrix, Simulation Theory, and Perception

• Scientific Research:
  • Details collaborative research with Dr. Katsushi Arasaka (CERN God Particle physicist) on perception timing:
    • Discovery of a millisecond delay in visual processing suggests “our brain begins with the image first... then our eyes broadcast outwards what's already inside of us.” ([23:12]-[25:06])
  • “It's not our eyes that see what's around us... our brain begins with the image first... our eyes broadcast outwards what's already inside of us.” — Joshua ([23:12])
• Manifestation:
  • Cites Wayne Dyer: “You have to believe it in order to see it.”

Celebrity Culture & Cloning

• Body Doubles vs. Cloning:
  • Notes it's well-known public figures use body doubles for security and convenience ([28:32]-[29:45]).
  • “Are they cloned? I believe that it's very possible... right now there's a company in Austin, Texas. You can pay $50,000 to clone your pet.” — Joshua ([29:26])
• Consciousness Transfer, Nick Bostrom's Simulation Hypothesis:
  • Mentions ancient traditions (Egyptians) and modern fringe science working towards uploading consciousness ([30:58]).

DMT, Remote Viewing, & Esoteric Phenomena

• Spirit, Breathing, and DMT:
  • Etymology of inspiration, expiration, “spire,” and the role of DMT in spiritual experience ([12:57]-[14:46]).
  • Ties breathwork to producing endogenous DMT and spiritual phenomena.
• Remote Viewing & Dowsing:
  • Explains legitimacy and historic use of dowsing and remote viewing, ties in Navy leadership and Nazi Germany ([31:54]-[33:24]).
  • Suggests techniques like dowsing are subconscious mind technologies dismissed by mainstream science.

Historical Revisionism & Controlled Narratives

• History vs. His-story:
  • “It's his story. That's history, right? Whoever wins the war writes the history books.” — Joshua ([08:48])
• Questioning WWII and Other Narratives:
  • Hesitates to draw final conclusions but encourages questioning received accounts, especially regarding WWII, Israel's creation, and the Holocaust ([33:24]-[34:50]).

Antarctica, Admiral Byrd, and Hidden Lands

• Operation High Jump & Admiral Byrd:
  • Cites Byrd’s claims of “lands beyond the Antarctic ice wall” and tales of past expeditions ([35:17]-[39:25]).
  • “He [Admiral Byrd] very clearly says, you know, there are lands beyond the ice wall of Antarctica... there are warm water lands and there is also inhabitants beyond.” ([35:39])
• Extraterrestrials as ‘Extra Terrain’:
  • Challenges the idea that aliens are “from space,” proposing they may be “extraterrain”—inhabitants beyond the known continents ([37:57]).
• Antarctic Treaty & Global Secrecy:
  • Points to the Antarctic Treaty as a rare global consensus indicative of hidden truths ([39:26]-[40:56]).

Reptilians and Subconscious Symbolism

• Reptilian Brain & Social Engineering:
  • Asserts the “reptilian” part of our brain (amygdala) governs base impulses, and speculates about individuals with more “reptilian DNA” ([42:42]).
  • Draws connections between popular culture (e.g., Ninja Turtles: “reptilians underground eating pizza”—Pizzagate allusion) and subconscious indoctrination ([43:57]).

9/11, Rituals, and Ancient Technology

• False Flags & Numerology:
  • States belief that 9/11 was engineered as a false flag and symbolic “ritualistic number,” suggesting ulterior motives such as seizing ancient technology ([44:36]-[47:24]).
  • “I believe I've seen footage where the planes were CGI and put in there... I believe it was a false flag to invade Iraq.” — Joshua ([44:36])
• Iraq’s Ancient Artifacts:
  • Suggests the Iraq war aimed to acquire ancient Sumerian technology (e.g., “tomb of Gilgamesh”) rather than WMDs ([46:29]-[47:16]).

Money, Symbolism, and Control

• Money as Power Symbol:
  • Explains the etymology of “money”—“mono” (one) and “eye”—connecting the symbol on the dollar to esoteric meaning ([48:15]-[48:29]).
  • Poses the question of whether George Washington is a mask for Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The geniuses think they're imposters and the imposters think they're geniuses.” — Steve Lindsey via Joshua ([01:44])
• “If we trade our freedom for security, then we neither deserve nor [get] freedom or security.” — Joshua ([02:31])
• “This world is not governed by law, nor words. It is governed by signs and symbols.” — Joshua ([17:23])
• “The word government is literally translated to mind control.” — Joshua ([18:27])
• “Media comes from the Greek goddess Medea, the goddess of illusion.” — Joshua ([21:08])
• “It's not our eyes that see what's around us... our brain begins with the image first... our eyes broadcast outwards what's already inside of us.” — Joshua ([23:12])
• “Do I believe that there are more people that have more of that reptilian DNA than others? Absolutely, I believe that.” — Joshua ([42:42])
• “Evil persists only when good men do nothing.” — (referencing Edward Snowden, [26:39])

Timestamps & Important Segments

• Opening/Intro to Reality and Government: [00:00]
• Security vs. Freedom, Imposter Syndrome: [01:44]-[05:38]
• Freemasonry, Esoteric Traditions, Early History: [05:38]-[07:16]
• History and Religion, His-story: [08:03]-[10:31]
• Mind Control, Etymology of ‘Government’: [18:27]-[21:08]
• Simulation Theory, Large Hadron Collider: [22:48]-[26:39]
• Consciousness Transfer, Cloning: [27:46]-[30:58]
• DMT, Breathwork, Spirit: [12:57]-[14:46], [30:58]-[32:20]
• Remote Viewing, Dowsing: [31:54]-[33:22]
• Antarctica & Admiral Byrd: [35:13]-[40:56]
• Symbolism in Money: [48:15]-[49:04]
• 9/11 Discussion: [44:36]-[47:49]

Tone and Style

Conversational, bold, and unapologetically speculative, with an emphasis on the esoteric and the subversive. Joshua blends humor, self-deprecation, and philosophical asides with detailed references, always returning to the notion that “asking questions is more important than having answers.” The episode is heavily laced with skepticism toward mainstream narratives and an insistence on personal inquiry and independent thinking.

Summary prepared for listeners seeking a comprehensive overview of this deep-dive into reality, control, and the power structures shaping our world.