Kevin Sorbo: Kevin Sorbo on Hollywood cancel culture and independent filmmaking | DSH #1526

Summary

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Episode: Kevin Sorbo on Hollywood Cancel Culture and Independent Filmmaking | DSH #1526

Date: September 7, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Kevin Sorbo

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Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly welcomes actor and director Kevin Sorbo, best known for Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and Andromeda. The conversation dives deeply into Hollywood cancel culture, Sorbo’s transition to independent filmmaking, the erosion of free speech in the entertainment industry, and broader sociopolitical trends in America. The discussion also touches on family, legacy, social media censorship, political divisions, masculinity, and Sorbo’s ongoing film and travel projects.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Cancel Culture & Hollywood’s Political Climate

• Kevin Sorbo as Early Cancel Culture Example
  • Sorbo shares that his career in Hollywood was derailed about 12 years ago, becoming what he considers one of the first prominent “cancel culture” victims for openly conservative views on social media.
  • “I'm the first cancel culture victim in Hollywood. For what? For posting the truth on Facebook and Twitter... Being a conservative in Hollywood is like being. It's kryptonite to them.” (00:58)
  • His agent and manager dropped him, citing changes in Hollywood’s political dynamics.
  • He notes Hollywood has become increasingly intolerant of conservative perspectives.
• Predictability and Agenda in Mainstream Movies
  • The conversation critiques recent Hollywood films for being “predictable,” visually driven, and reliant on promoting ideological agendas over relatable storytelling.
    • “I do the movies that Hollywood used to do. Movies that have love and hope and faith and love and relapse, you know, laughter... Instead of walking out, wow, a great visual effect.” (03:11)
  • Sorbo anticipates a coming “tipping point” as audiences tire of the status quo.
• The Rise of Independent Film & DIY Promotion
  • After his Hollywood exit, Sorbo’s films are made in the $2-3 million range, relying on word of mouth, grassroots PR, and interviews rather than large studio backing. He currently has four narrative features and three documentaries set for release.

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2. Technology, Social Media, and AI Fears

• Social Media Deplatforming
  • Discusses being banned from Facebook for “misinformation” that he later feels was vindicated: “Facebook took me down for posting the truth... Do I get my 4 million followers back? No.” (06:04)
  • Notes everything once labeled a conspiracy “always been proven true now...it just takes six months to become truth.” (07:33)
• AI and Industry Disruption
  • Sorbo expresses concern over artificial intelligence’s impact on entertainment, jobs, and society, referencing the surreal ability to insert historical figures and actors into new films.
• Connection in a Digital World
  • Critiques the paradox of increased social platforms but decreased genuine connection: "We have more social media than ever now, but we're less connected now because of it, I think." (05:08)

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3. Political Reflections & Social Commentary

• Conservatism and Upbringing
  • Sorbo has been conservative since his first vote (for Ronald Reagan in 1980), diverging from his Democratic family roots. Views past Democratic figures as centrist by today’s standards.
  • Highlights Bill Maher as someone open about the Left’s excesses.
• Critiques of Taxation and Government Overreach
  • Strong criticisms of inheritance and property taxes: “You think you own your house, you think you own the land, but no, you don't.” (09:59)
  • Argues that there’s systemic apathy and ignorance, which government exploits.
• Political Cynicism and Term Limits
  • Sorbo derides lifetime politicians and calls for eight-year term limits: “Nobody should get more than eight years... Why can't we get that?” (12:07)
• Comments on Border, Media, and Policy
  • Shares concerns about the border and government spending, referencing wild government grants and foreign aid.
  • Critical of the media’s bias and suggests mainstream outlets shield Democrats.

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4. Reflections on Career and Changing Industry

• Early Acting Days vs. Now
  • Describes his love of classic cinema (Paul Newman, Robert Redford) and the contrast of today’s streaming-first generation.
• Legacy of Hercules, Andromeda, and Kiwi Film Industry
  • Shares the global phenomenon of Hercules and its impact on action/fantasy TV, the launch of Xena: Warrior Princess, and how those series seeded New Zealand’s film industry, later benefiting Lord of the Rings.
  • Humorously laments Peter Jackson never casting him despite helping lay the groundwork.

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5. Masculinity and Culture Wars

• On Emasculation and Media Narratives
  • Praises his son Braden Sorbo’s book, Embracing Masculinity, which pushes back against what they see as a Hollywood-led emasculation of men.
  • Jokes that Hercules is now “too toxic” for a reboot: “That's probably why they haven't brought Hercules back. He's too toxic.” (26:21)
• Diversity in Casting and Awards Requirements
  • Condemns modern industry hiring and awards guidelines as performative rather than meritocratic: “You cannot get an Oscar or a Golden Globe unless you hire along these guidelines they have right now.” (27:10)
  • Thinks forced diversity requirements in period pieces are ahistorical and alienating: References a Danish medieval film and roots as ethnocentric stories that wouldn't meet current diversity standards. (27:16)

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6. Social Media Hate and Public Engagement

• Trolling, Anonymity, and Mental Health
  • Sorbo jokes about provoking Twitter/X backlash: "I said, I didn't leave Hollywood because they blacklisted me. I left Hollywood because it's filled with pedophiles." (29:03)
  • Observes that social media hate often comes from anonymous, angry users, and sees it as a manifestation of deeper personal issues: “What a pathetic and sad existence, really. I feel sad for these people.” (27:06, 28:37)
• Politics and Friendship
  • Differentiates his ability to maintain personal and professional relationships regardless of political differences: “I get liberals that I wanted to work with in my movies and they don't want to work with me because I'm conservative...They're like Seventh grade mean girls.” (31:16)

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7. Personal, Family, and Faith

• Current Projects and Travels
  • Upcoming films, including Christmas Eve, a World War I vignette, and a new sci-fi project.
  • Promotes upcoming trips: a Media Research Center cruise in Norway, and a “Footsteps of Paul” tour in Greece.
  • “We love it right now and I don't think we're leaving anytime soon,” about his family's move to Florida, emphasizing quality of life, family, and community (17:19).
• Mentoring the Next Generation
  • Shares pride in his children, especially Braden Sorbo, as authors and voices for conservative youth.

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8. Reflections on Famous Encounters

• Stories of Meeting Political Leaders
  • Anecdotes about golfing with Donald Trump (“Trump’s a good golfer...He loves America. I don't care what people say about that.” 39:00), meeting Obama, Gorbachev, Bill Clinton, and working socially across the political spectrum.
• Legacy and Charitable Work
  • Supports various charities, speaks at events, and is engaged with organizations like Turning Point USA and Kirk Cameron’s Brave Books.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cancel Culture & Social Media Censorship

  • "I'm the first cancel culture victim in Hollywood. For what? For posting the truth on Facebook and Twitter." (00:58)
  • "Do I get my 4 million followers back from Zuckerberg and his wussy minions? No." (06:04)

• On Family Entertainment

  • "I do the movies that Hollywood used to do. Movies that have love and hope and faith and love and relapse, you know, laughter... people want movies that they can go, wow, that was just a good movie." (03:11)

• On Diversity in Awards:

  • "Now, you. You. You cannot get an Oscar or a Golden Globe unless you hire along these guidelines they have right now." (27:10)

• On Industry Influence:

  • “It was your shows that really started and built the industry in New Zealand...But you didn't give me one frickin role in Lord of the Rings.” (25:05)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:58: Sorbo describes being “canceled” in Hollywood.
• 03:11: Critique of modern Hollywood films, the rise of independent, “family” filmmaking.
• 05:08 - 06:04: Social media’s negative effects, being deplatformed on Facebook.
• 12:07: Advocacy for political term limits.
• 14:33: Personal story about California wildfires prompting a move to Florida.
• 17:48: Upcoming Media Research Center cruise in Norway; Greece tour.
• 21:50: Hercules’ impact on global TV, Ryan Gosling’s first major role.
• 27:10: On new Oscar/Golden Globe guidelines for diversity.
• 29:03: Social media trolls, “I didn't leave Hollywood because of blacklisted me. I left Hollywood because it's filled with pedophiles.”
• 39:00: Sorbo on Trump’s golf game and why he values businesspeople in politics.

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Final Thoughts & Where to Find More

• Sorbo directs listeners to SorboStudios.com for updates on his upcoming films, books, and family-oriented projects:
  • “I just hope people would support the movies we do there. I got some wonderful movies coming out that are family movies.” (41:31)
• He emphasizes his ongoing commitment to creating positive content and engaging in constructive, values-based discourse.

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For fans of industry insights, candid political commentary, and Hollywood’s behind-the-scenes stories, this episode delivers a no-holds-barred conversation that’s both provocative and personal.

Transcript

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's not what your country can do for you. Well, you know, right now all the Democrats want total control, cradle to grave of all our lives. They just want to find more ways to tax you. I still laugh at the inheritance tax. So you've worked all your life, you pay taxes and all that money for 50 years, you pass away. You can't give that to your kids and your grandkids. You got to give half of it or more to the government. Why?

[A]

Okay, guys, Kevin Sorbo here today, busy man working on four movies right now.

[B]

No, four movies are done in the can.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I don't know when they're coming out. I mean, they're done. And you know, the thing is independent world, you can't. You don't have the kind of budget Hollywood does. They do 300 million dollar movies and they do 100 million dollar promotion when I do movies in the 2 to 3 million dollar range.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So a lot of it relies on just a lot of pr, like tonight talking to people like you and word of mouth from the general public out there. And that's how to get it going. Three documentaries done as well. I'll be out this year and I just finished a movie. I finished two movies this year that don't count for what we just talked about. Just did a, a movie called Christmas Eve and it's going to be coming out this year. They're editing fast on it. It deals with stories that happen on Christmas Eve at different parts of century decade or whatever. Mine was a World War I story, so it's like a 20 minute short story, but it's going to be like five stories.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

And then I just finished a sci fi movie. I just flew in from Vancouver and the reason I'm here, because my mom suffered a stroke. I'm here visiting her. Yeah, it sucks, but she's getting up there, but she's fighting. She's still doing okay. And then I got a golf movie I'm shooting here in July with Dean Cain, who played Superman on TV directing it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And Dean lives here? He lives in, he lives on the same course I lived on. A real Seiko golf course.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, there's a lot of good golf courses.

[B]

A lot of good golf courses. Yeah.

[A]

Was that transition from Hollywood to independent film really tough?

[B]

Well, it's kind of forced on me. I got booted out about 12 years ago. I'm the first cancel culture victim in Hollywood. For what? For posting the truth on Facebook and Twitter. My manager and agent said we can't work with anymore. The studios don't want to work with you because apparently being a conservative in Hollywood is like being. It's kryptonite to them, apparently so. Which is sad to me. And I, you know, it's. I. I don't harbor the kind of anger to somebody has a different point of view than I do. I'm fine with that. That's fine.

[A]

Was it a specific post or just accumulation of.

[B]

No, I think it's just accumulation of the years. And I laughed at it when they told me because I was at ICM for years and, you know, one of the bigger agents out there. And I said, but I've always been conservative. You know that. Yeah, but things are changing in Hollywood. And as you know, the last decade has gone insane. Look at the latest Disney movie. It's gonna lose. That woke Snow White movie's gonna lose probably $300 million.

[A]

Yeah, they might be hitting you up soon if it keeps going like this.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Well, it's insane what they keep. They keep pushing this stuff on people, and it's like, guys, enough is enough. I mean, you can mix up your movies a little bit and put movies in there that families want to go to at the same time. You know, why. Why just push these agendas all the time? But I think Hollywood's starting to wake up. I think it's a tipping point happening now, which is good.

[A]

I feel like a lot of recent Hollywood movies are so predictable. The script writing doesn't seem to be what it used to be.

[B]

Well, you know, I, I look, I like these high tech, lot of, you know, visual effects stuff. They're fun Avengers and, you know, whatever, all that kind of stuff, but they're the same story. It's like a roller coaster ride. And I fell in love with acting. Not because of that. I fell in love with acting when they had good scripts dealing with characters maybe I could relate to and maybe there was good storylines that kept you motivated. So I do the movies that Hollywood used to do. Movies that have love and hope and faith and love and relapse, you know, laughter. And it's just people want movies that they can go, wow, that was just a good movie. Instead of walking out, wow, a great visual effect. If you look at every one of these AV movies, every. I mean, they take down about eight large buildings in New York City. Well, that's 2 million people who just died. No one's talking about that. I always think that, you know, like, there's a bit. But they saved the world, you know, he's like, okay, yeah, that was so funny.

[A]

I rarely go to the theaters now, man. When I was a kid, I used to love going every weekend. Yeah, that was one of my favorite.

[B]

Memories when I moved out to la. I. I mean, I fell in love with acting as a young kid, but for me, it was Paul Newman and Robert Redford movies. Those are the guys that. They were cool to me that I want to do movies like that. But when I moved to la, I would go four or five days a week.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

All the time, just go. But, you know, I lived in Santa Monica and mostly, you know, you go to the Studio City or you go to Beverly Hills or Hollywood to do all the castings, whether it was commercial or reading for a movie or TV show. And for me, 16 miles in LA is an hour and a half drive one way. You're moving to my miles an hour, if you're lucky. So I would have a casting at 10, then not one Del, two. So I would. I'm not gonna drive back home. I'm gonna go have lunch, go see a movie, and then, you know, go hit another casting.

[A]

Yeah, times have changed, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My generation's just watching Netflix and streaming's the main thing now, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, and, well, that, you know, there's like Netflix kind of in Amazon are ruling the day. They just don't pay the residuals as well as they used to. And that's kind of sucks for actors, but, you know, everybody wants to work. So I think a lot of actors are taking huge cuts what their normal salaries would be. Other actors work for nothing just to get their careers going. And I understand that.

[A]

How worried are you about AI replacing a lot of jobs.

[B]

And it's crazy. It's crazy to think that they can put me in a movie with Marilyn Monroe and John Wayne. Yeah, it's kind of. But I, I am. I'm not a tech guy at all. I mean, I got boys 23 and 21, and if I got a problem with my computer, they come and go do that so easy, you know. But I grew up when I was in school, in high school and junior high school, and we had a call up, put the phone on a little holder, wait about an hour and a half or hopefully to connect. But it was today. It's, It's. It's taken over everything. I mean, we have more social media than ever now, but we're less connected now because of it, I think, oh, 100% locked into that. They. Oh, I have this many friends. They're not your friends, you know. You know, you want people that may, you know, interject and all kinds of stuff like that. But Facebook took me down for posting the truth. Everything I said that they said was, was, you know, it was conspiracy theories or misinformation. Always been proven true. Now everything I said was the truth. But do I get my 4 million followers back from Zuckerberg and his wussy minions? No.

[A]

They haven't reinstated you?

[B]

No, not at all. Not at all. I'm trying to get back on.

[A]

Well, Zuck's on the right now, though.

[B]

Well, because Trump's in office.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So all of a sudden he does a 180. I just, I don't trust that guy. I think he's a very brilliant man. There's no question about it. But he's. If, if. If Kamala had won, he'd be kissing up on her butt too.

[A]

100%. We got to get you in touch with Dana then. Dana's on their board now.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Dana White? Yeah, he's on the board of Meta Strategic. Hire by him.

[B]

I would, I mean, look, I'd love to get back my Facebook followers, but I mean, they've been gone for three and a half years now. Damn. Yeah.

[A]

Was it an anti vax post?

[B]

Oh, a number of those, yeah. Well, I said, where's the proof? I would post. I would post videos of Fauci saying in 2017 that, oh, you need eight to 10 years to test these vaccines out because you don't know, you got to do. Because there's always going to be potential side effects. And they rush this thing out, what, nine months, a year or something.

[A]

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[B]

And look what happened. Look at so many people. Look how many people died.

[A]

Terrible.

[B]

But let's not talk about that. But we all know it now. Everything that I was posting and many other people are posting that got taken down. It's like, oh, it's. It's true now that that conspiracy theory. And it just takes six months to become truth.

[A]

I guess the one good thing about that is it made people look into all the other vaccines, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now there's like 100 vaccines they give kids by the time they turn 18.

[B]

It's insane.

[A]

It's nuts.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

When you were growing up, you probably got like three.

[B]

They were like, I think six or seven or something like that, you know? But if you look at. I mean, I can't watch TV anymore because two out of every three commercials, there's more drug commercials and listing off the 75 side effects as quickly as the announcer can talk. So it's, it's. It's unbelievable what we turned to, but there's money in that. You know, Ronald Reagan, one of the things he did was make them not. You know, you can't go after them anymore. You can't sue them for anything. So what they say about COVID that we gotta wait 75 years to find out the results, well, we'll all be dead. Yeah.

[A]

Were you conservative your whole life? Growing up, too?

[B]

I was actually. 1980 was the first time I could vote. I voted for Ronald Reagan.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And, you know, my parents kind of flipped out. They were. They were Walter Mondale, Hubert Humphrey, Democrats at that time. But I said, you know, you can look at those guys, Mondale and Humphrey today. They would be centrist. And if you look at jfk, jfk. I mean, I think Bill Maher is a JFK Democrat. That's why you see Bill Maher opening up now and being more honest about how the insanity the woke of the left is. I mean, he's attacking the left as much as the attack on the right. JFK. Look at his 1960 inauguration speech and tell me one Democratic. Heck, most of the Republicans don't talk that way. You know, it's on his gravestone where he said, ask not what the government can do for you, but what you can do, you know, for your country.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's not what your country can do for you. Well, you know, right now, all the Democrats want total control, cradle to grave of all our lives. They just want to find more ways to tax you. I still laugh at the inheritance tax. So you've worked all your life. You pay taxes on all that money for 50 years, you pass away. You can't give that to your kids and your grandkids. You got to give half of it or more to the government. Why? They just find different ways to rip you off constantly. It's amazing to me and people. We have a lot of sheep and we have. A lot of people are uneducated and ignorant about the whole thing, and they just go, oh, what can we do? And I think apathy is the biggest killer in this country right now.

[A]

So many taxes, man. Property tax. Why is that a thing?

[B]

Yeah. And if you do find gold and silver or oil on your property, it's not yours, it's a government's.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I didn't know that.

[B]

Oh, yeah. They own everything below. Below you, and no way. And then they want to.

[A]

You don't even own the land at that.

[B]

You don't even. Yeah, you think you own your house, you think you own the land, but no, you don't.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That is mind blowing, man. When did you start waking up to all this?

[B]

Pretty young, actually. Started looking, I think. I think, you know, high school years and stuff. Watching Jimmy Carter and stuff, I was like going, oh, my gosh. I don't know, guys. I think this guy's not a good president. I think he's a bright man, but I think that. I mean, obviously he didn't get reelected and that Reagan defeated him pretty easily. So to me, it's like, okay, I went the other way. My parents were shocked. And I said, look, I think this Carter's gonna go down as the worst president we've ever had. And I was completely right. Until we had Obama and Biden.

[A]

Biden might be Biden's.

[B]

I started feeling sorry for Biden.

[A]

I mean, he has stage five cancer.

[B]

I did. Even before that, I said, definitely. We all knew something was going on. And you got this 90% of the mainstream media or more, you know, protecting this guy and say, no, he's never been, you know, Morning Joe, so. And I've never seen him more sharper than his title. And, you know, behind closed doors, they're going, how much longer can we, you know, just keep saying this stuff? We know it's not true.

[A]

When he did that debate, I was surprised that people were shocked at his performance.

[B]

Yeah. And he walked on stage, totally jacked up. You know, they put B12 into him. They put him shots just to wake him up as much as possible. They had earpieces trying to feed him dialogue. And he still just sucked. That SEC first debate he had or the second debate he had with Trump back in 2020, I got angry at Trump by saying, quit interrupting him half a sentence. And he interrupt. No, let the guy talk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let people see this guy can't put two sentences together.

[A]

Yeah, we'll See who they put up there in 28, maybe.

[B]

But he won the election anyway. But I think. I think it was a blessing in disguise because it woke up a lot of people that were down the middle or even liberal and not far, far left that said, wow, look what he's doing to the country.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, there's no problem with the border. Don't worry about this. I mean, how many people do we let in this country? 15, 20 million? I mean, there's so many different numbers. Florida, we have no idea.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Super crazy. Yeah. I don't know who they're going to put up in 28. They're saying, AOC. New put up AOC.

[B]

Here's a bartender that was broke and all of a sudden she's worth. She's worth like 20 or $30 million now. How do you get to that in six years?

[A]

That's a lot of money.

[B]

And 140 or $150,000 a year. How do you get to that? No insider trading. I think Pelosi is worth $200 million. And why don't we get the vote on term limits? Why? If the president gets eight years, nobody should get more than eight years. Really? I'm seriously. You got to. You can't wipe them all out right now, but they should all leave in blocks. Maybe 25% are replaced if they. If they don't get reelected for another term. Eight years is the most you get, period. Why can't we get that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why can't we make them go back after 48 years back to their communities, back to delegates, and say, well, did I do a good job? Well, not really. Look at this. Look what's going on in our community right now. Because they don't know. They live in their bubble, just like Hollywood lives in this bubble.

[A]

Once they get the funding, they don't seem to ever get out of position.

[B]

No. No.

[A]

He's been there for how long?

[B]

Yeah. And why are they mad? Why. Why is. Why is the left mad that we're showing how much tax money is being wasted by the government? We knew they wasted our dollars. We can spend our money better than they can. But you know what was the one thing made me laugh? $50 million to Gaza for condoms.

[A]

Yeah, there's been a few wild ones like that.

[B]

Is that okay? That's interesting.

[A]

I don't understand how you could defend that. Like, if we're just being totally objective, how do you defend that?

[B]

I don't know. I have no idea.

[A]

And they just attack Elon. They attack Tesla, Yeah.

[B]

They loved him before. He said, I mean, look, they love Trump. Be on Oprah's show, be on the View. They all loved him on the left. And then we said, you know what? I'm going to run for governor. I mean, I'm going to run for office here in 2015 for the President on the right. And they just flipped out.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

They've been attacking him for 10 years, nonstop.

[A]

Yeah. Would you ever run for anything political?

[B]

No. I was asked by a group of conservative actors in LA to come back and run against Newsom. I said, guys, they have zero interest, zero interest in moving back to California, and zero interest. I'm political, but, you know, I wouldn't want that job. I got called by the Republican Party in Minneapolis. I'm from Minnesota, to run against Waltz just like three months ago. And I said, yeah, not interested, not interested. Living in five months of winter again. I want to be in a state where I can golf every day if I want to.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. I'd love to see you debate Newsom. That'd be a good one.

[B]

I think it'd be fun. Look, I think he's. I think he's a bright guy, but he's left. He's Nancy's, you know, I mean, the stuff he did, the stuff he did in the state. In terms of the fire that just came through recently, we have fires all the time. I lived through multiple fires the time I was in la. But we got lucky. Number of times we had one fire that came through, burnt down half the homes of neighborhood, came down three feet of my backyard, went around my house.

[A]

Holy crap.

[B]

Why? I don't know. The house next to me down on the ground that was next to him, State house next to that guy, that guy that lived two houses from me, two homes on either side of one down to the ground, his house stayed.

[A]

I must be God or something.

[B]

Yeah, it's got to be something because it was pretty amazing. Damn.

[A]

That's nuts.

[B]

And that was absolute. Made us move.

[A]

Oh, the fire.

[B]

Well, we were ready to leave. I. I've shot over 90 movies.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Since I had Hercules. Seven years. And I did.

[A]

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[B]

Andromeda, which is Gene Roddenberry sci FI show for five years. So from 1993, 2005, I was out of America for 10 months because I was in New Zealand and I was in Canada with Andromeda for five years. So when I got back home, every movie I booked shot in Texas or further east. Nothing was shooting in California. And I looked at my wife and I said, why are we dealing with the traffic on taxes? There's no reason. She's got family in Florida. We always went out there on vacation. We always loved it. So we put the For Sale sign. This was in 2018. The fires came through and our house survived. A guy that lost his house about three blocks down from me saw the For Sale sign. He shows up at the house and he says, look, they went through the house. They got two teenage kids. Said, we love the house. We want to rebuild where we live, though. I know you want to sell, but our insurance company will pay you triple your mortgage for the next two years while we rebuild.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Triple.

[A]

What an awful.

[B]

I look at my wife and I said, we're moving to Florida within a year. They ended up buying the house.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Because their house, even after a year, all they had was the area was cleared out. They seldom begun. So, you know, hundreds of homes burnt down. So it's just taking a long time to get things going for people. Look at his last fire through Pacific Palisades.

[A]

No one got money.

[B]

There's no water. There was no. They have no we. California. It will rain really hard for a couple months. Like usually November, December, January. Somewhere in there. There's. With all the hills, they could have built so many reservoirs. They could have built these things. Caught the rain, they just let it go into the Santa Monica Bay and they had no water. Knew some. I mean, give me a break.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, for decades they've been talking about building things and don't do I, don't I. And you know, for this, when most of the Palisades is liberal and they lost all their homes and they still. Still not going to blame Newsom for it. They'll blame Trump somehow.

[A]

They also got billions to solve homelessness out there.

[B]

It doesn't get better. It got worse.

[A]

They got 5 billion.

[B]

I think it's unbelievable.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

So, yeah, it just keeps those people employed in jobs that are useless and wasteful of our money.

[A]

Yeah. Well, at least you got good timing in Florida. I'm sure your house is up a lot of money.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. It's gone insane in Miami area. It's double. No, we're about two hours north. We're in an area called Wellington. It's horse country. We wanted space, so we got five acres.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, it's great.

[A]

That's awesome.

[B]

It's great. Literally, you Go through the gate and you feel like it's Oklahoma with palm trees. Damn. Most people have 10 acres and they got horses. I didn't want a horse. A lot of maintenance on them, too much work. But we got neighbors now. We've made good friends and they, a lot of people teach, you know, riding lessons. So my kids have been doing that and you know, I've shot western, so I like riding horses too. But so we'll, we'll see, we'll see what happens. But we love a rap right now and I don't think we're leaving anytime soon.

[A]

I love it. You got some upcoming trips coming up, Greece and Norway, right?

[B]

I do. I got the Norway trip was with Brent Bozell and that is the media mrc, the media Research Center. And what they do is they, they look at all media on both sides of the political aisle and they see is it fair and balanced? Well, on the left it literally is 90% just negative towards anybody on the right.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And then the other 10% is, they'll talk, they'll have, they'll have right wing people come on their shows like, like coming on yours and they say, hey, he's right wing or not, not a far lefty, whatever. So in this trip it's going to be a, we did it last year through the Caribbean. This year we're going to do it through Norway, which I'm excited because I'm taking my kids in this one because I'm Norwegian, second generation.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

And I haven't been back there in years. And so it's going to be cruise, a seven day cruise there. People, they go to mrc.org they can go check it out. They can join us. There's still room on the boat, but we got some great speakers are going to be there. Lt. Col. Allen west is going to be there. Dana Lashley is going to be there. Brent Bozell's I'll be speaking. Joe Concha from Fox News going to be there. So if you want to, you know, come and hang out, it's pretty fun. You'll meet everybody and it's going to be a great trip. And the Greece trip, my wife and I usually take a group of people every year it is Israel and we call it Walking Footsteps of Jesus. This one's walking the footsteps Apostle Paul, who spent a lot of his life after Jesus was crucified in Greece. So it's gonna be a 12 day trip.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

September 17th through 29th and that one's pretty much sold out. I think we got four, four Maybe five places still open if people want to join us. It's gonna be a great trip. You'll have a blast. And the last day, of course, we're going to Mount Olympus because I was Hercules for seven years. Full circle, right on monoliths. And we'll go to the site of the battle that inspired the 300 movie.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So we're going to exact same location.

[A]

One of the best movies of all time.

[B]

It was pretty cool.

[A]

Greece is my favorite country.

[B]

It's awesome.

[A]

It's so beautiful.

[B]

I went there in the. When they had the Olympics there. I shot a movie in Mykonos. They roll at the red carpet because the whole Hercules thing.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And it was actually a Hercules cafe on the island of Mykonos. I shot a comedy. There's an Australian film team. It was a lot of fun.

[A]

Are they going to do a Hercules remake anytime soon?

[B]

If they do, I'd be curious what they would do with it. I mean, I'm obviously too old to do it now, but they could, they could age me up more and I could play Zeus. I'd love to do it.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

You know, they redo stuff all the time. I'm actually surprised they haven't done something like that because it really started, I think it started everything that led to all the action movies are going on right now because at the time there was nothing like that on TV. And by season three of Hercules, we became the most watched TV show in the world in 176 countries.

[A]

Holy crap.

[B]

And as Hollywood does, they copy everything that's successful. So by our season three, they decided a time slot open. We spun off a female type Hercules show called Xena, Warrior Princess. In that same year though, all the other studios came out with Conan, Robin Hood, Sinbad, Beastmaster, Sheena. There's another action woman. So they all these other shows are trying to copy us, but we were the original, so we kicked their butts. We were still number one at the end of season seven. But I got an offer to do a show that Gene Roddenberry, who created the original Stars Star Trek series and he wrote in 1969 A not really a sequel because this one, my show, Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda was even hundreds of years in the future beyond that. So my captain, Captain Dylan Hunt, was the first captain after Captain Kirk, which was kind of cool and I'm a big fan of the original series. So when Major Roddenberry, his widow called me up and said during season seven of Hercules said, you know if my husband is still alive. Rod. Rod. I mean, Rob, Rod. Gene Roddenberry. His son is Rod, I think Rod Roddenberry. And he said, if she was still alive, I think he'd want you to play this role. And I told her, I said, if you're offering me a parole to play in one of Gene Rodbury's shows, I said, you don't have to. Just where do I sign? I'm ready to do it right now.

[A]

Left the number one show for that.

[B]

Yeah. I got one more thing I wanted to say again, because a lot of people forget this show. Season five on Hercules, we spun of young Hercules. A lot of people forget that show only lasted two seasons, and the young actor that played me as a teenager, the show got canceled. He called me up, as I do. They canceled the show. And I said, yeah, I know. I found out. I took him out. We were all living in New Zealand at that time. I lived there for 10 months a year each year for seven years. And beautiful country is great. And I took this act, this young actor out. I said, you're a really good actor. You're going to do fine. His name was Ryan Gosling.

[A]

No way.

[B]

That's where Ryan got to start. Why was I. Yeah, I tell people, I go online and look at Ryan Gosling photos as young Hercules, and you see this scrawny, skinny little kid. And now he's a big stud, of course, and now his career has exploded. So, Ryan, if you're out there, why don't I get one of your roles in your. One of your movies? Dude, he's a damn. He's a damn good actor. He's really good. And, you know, God bless him, he does great, great movies.

[A]

Did you watch Sinners yet?

[B]

Have not seen that one yet.

[A]

It was a good movie.

[B]

I saw Fall Even one of them. Fall Guy. I enjoyed Fall Guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Stunt movie. It was pretty good.

[A]

They feel like they're doing some new things like.

[B]

Yeah, that.

[A]

That aren't in the mainstream Hollywood, but.

[B]

Yeah. Well, look, they've got to change. I mean, Amazon, Netflix made the studios change.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Technology making everybody change. And, I mean, I still like going to movie theaters, but like you, I maybe only go one or two a year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The only two I want to see this whole year now. One I want to take. I want to see the. The new Tom Cruise movie, the latest one.

[A]

Oh, the last one.

[B]

I'm a fan of the last one.

[A]

But, yeah, yeah, I know Mission Impossible.

[B]

Well, it's. It did like, what, 250 million? No, more of the weekend opening. Pretty amazing. You know what? I, I, I think the guy, I like his stance. He's, he stays pretty, I'm sure he's political, but he stays kind of apolitical in a way. But he's, he's a smart guy. He's a damn good actor. And I did most of my own sense on Hercules, so I appreciate. He has most of his own stunts.

[A]

He's broken some bones.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah, I've had a few. Oh yeah, I've had a few number things. I've broken fingers and cuts and bruises and sprains and stuff like that. But it's for, to me, it's, I was a jock, I was a football, basketball guy growing up all through school and everything. And to me, and I had stunt guys that made me look good. I had amazing stunt guys. Ben Cook, one of our, he was 19 years old in the series started. He's 26 by the time it ended. One of our stunt guys went on to become Daniel Craig's stunt double in all the James Bond movies.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I think he won Stuntman of the year twice. They were, you know, Peter Jackson used to come on the set a lot to see all the crews developing because they didn't have an, they don't have infrastructure in New Zealand. I mean, we just gave it to him with three shows employing about 700 people on both sides of the camera. Well, more than that on the other in front of the camera because all the extras and everything seems not big. It was, well, heck, they all. When we, he took, he took most of my crew to Lord of the Rings and they all went on to win Academy Awards. I mean the wetter group that won for all the creature I created, they did all the creatures on Hercules and Nyla Dixon was an amazing wardrobe artist. She won, she, I think he was nominated for two the same year she did Tom Cruise's movie the Last Samurai. And of course Lord of the Rings. And she won for Lord of the Rings.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Lord of the Rings and Peter Jackson. I remember I was there at the last, the last Oscar run for the third Lord of the Rings. He said, you know, it was your shows that really started and built industry in New Zealand. I said, that's a nice compliment, Peter, but you didn't give me one frickin role. Lord of the Rings. So, so take that, Peter. But talented group of people in that small country. There's only 5 million people in the whole country.

[A]

I didn't know they were making movies like that out there.

[B]

Yeah, New Zealand. Pretty, pretty o. There's my son calling right there.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. New Zealand's beautiful. I've been there, too.

[B]

My son. I can't talk to you right now. I'm. I'm. I'm here right now. And the podcast you helped set up for me. We'll talk later how to get that in there. Give him a plug. That's Braden Sorel. You should follow him.

[A]

You got a good relationship with your kids.

[B]

Great kid.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

Braden's great. His second book just came out. You should have mine. Yeah, he wrote a book. It's called Embracing Masculinity, and it's about the push down that Hollywood and the mainstream media wants to do in emasculating men in America. And it's pretty cool. His first book, he came out three years ago. His initials are B.S. braden Sorbo. It's the best guide to politics for young kids.

[A]

Love it.

[B]

So he does a lot of work with Charlie Kirk in Turning Point usa, and he's a very outspoken kid. He'd be a good guest for you guys.

[A]

Love to have him on. Yeah. Masculinity. That's probably why they haven't brought Hercules back. He's too toxic.

[B]

He's too toxic. They probably make him a transgender. I don't know.

[A]

Welcome to Holly Was Harry Potter's coming back. Hermione is. Is black. It's. It's like.

[B]

It's crazy. They want to rewrite everything, which is really. Then come up with a different idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do something like it, but come up with something original instead of changing things because you piss off the fans more than anything else. You know, I could care less. I'm not gonna go see the movie anyway.

[A]

But it's a show. But, yeah, even Snape, I think, is black. I mean, crazy.

[B]

Well, it's. It's weird. It's. Yeah, it's weird because it just. To me, I don't care where you stand religiously, what color your skin is, I could care less. If you're the best person, I think that for the job that I'm doing, then I'm gonna hire you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's as simple as that.

[A]

But they made those standards before they hired the actors. So that's my point.

[B]

Now, you. You. You cannot get an Oscar or a Golden Globe unless you hire along these guidelines they have right now.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That means. Look at all the decades of films that would never. That have won Oscars in today's world. They wouldn't have won Oscars because they didn't cover that. I can't remember. There's an interview I saw for this year's Cannes Film Festival, and it was about denmark in the 1300s. And the actor was there. I can't remember his name. He's a great actor. I've seen him in it before. And I think the director was there and one writer said, you had no people of color. And they looked at each other and they said, this is a movie about 14th century Denmark. Sorry. I'm sorry that they were white then. You know, there weren't a lot of people. There were a lot of people of color and roots either. It was all black people, you know, so it's like, I don't get offended by that. It's the weirdest thing that people wake up. What a horrible way to live your life. They wake up every day to be angry. What am I going to be pissed off about today? What a horrible way. I mean, I get people. I'm sure half of them are just robots that are going after me on Twitter, but they. It's like they wait to pounce on me. I can say, it's a beautiful day. I hope you die. You know, I'm going, I would never follow people that I disagree with. I just don't. I don't have the time to look at responses anyway. I just hear from my kids what people say, and I'm going, what a. What a pathetic and sad existence, really. I feel sad for these people that every day they wake up, they hate themselves so much. They hate their lives. I hate who they are. They hate that they don't have a relationship or they hate the relationship they're in. They hate the job. They probably don't have a job. They're probably being paid by George Soros on collecting tax dollars from you and me. And I'm going to live that way every single day. I mean, wow. I mean that. How. How unhealthy that has to be for your body.

[A]

Yeah. No. They even have your post notifications on. So as soon as you post. That's why they comment so quick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

I left one up there at the very top of my. On my X feed. Follow me on ksorbs K S O R B S. My buddies call me Sorbs. And I said, I didn't leave Hollywood because of blacklisted me. I left Hollywood because it's filled with pedophiles.

[A]

Yeah, that one got a lot of engagement.

[B]

They got a lot of engagement. But I put out things just to me, it's like A joke. It's like when Trump says, we're gonna make Canada a state that's not gonna happen. But in Canada they all went crazy and they go, God, it's so easy to trigger people. It's so easy. But I think it stems from them hating who they are and hating their existence. And that's sad to me. It's sad. These people are lonely, lonely, lonely people.

[A]

See a lot of it on X specifically.

[B]

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

[A]

X might be the worst.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wonder why. Because like I get a lot of. Well, you don't have posts what positive comments on Instagram. But X is like the opposite.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

It's all hate.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know why they got nothing better to do with their time.

[A]

A lot of. I think a lot of the accounts are anonymous too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like there's no identity behind it.

[B]

Yeah. So it's just. And it's, I don't know, it's, it's, it's. It's a weird, angry world out there. And if you want to live your life that way, then, you know, I'll pray you find a better way to find a better, better, better happy life. But that's just, that's just going to bring ulcers and cancers and it just, it's, it's not. It can't do anything to help you as an individual. You can't.

[A]

Stuff manifests into disease.

[B]

Sure it does. Of course it does. Yeah.

[A]

And that cliche quote. But it's true. Hate always comes from below.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like when someone higher than you hated on you.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. If I'm, if I'm worse off than somebody else, that person's not gonna hate me. So, you know, I'm a 13 year old success. So, you know, damn you for working hard. I love, I love somebody get these Hazbin things. I'm going, well, I still shoot four movies a year on average. I shot over 90 movies. Are they Hollywood movies? No, because Hollywood gave me the blacklist. But I'm still making movies. I'm still in the industry. I love, I'm still direct at least one movie every year. I love being on set. I will hire anybody if the best person for the job. I don't go, well, are you a liberal? Well, I'm not going to hire you then. No, I would like. But I get liberals that I wanted to work with in my movies and they don't want to work with me because I'm conservative.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I'm going, okay. To me, it's, they're like Seventh grade, mean girls, they're like little children. Yeah, but like I said, it's. Once again, it's just a sad way to go through life.

[A]

I would never let politics get in the way of business for me.

[B]

No, you want the best person, period.

[A]

Yeah. Why should that matter?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, oh, you're conservative. You're. You're, you hate gays. Find one person in the gay community. And I worked on every, Almost every movie I've been on. There have been lesbians, gays, homos, whatever you want to call them. They can find one that says I was evil to them, that I treated them differently. You won't. But they, they just, they love, they just put that stamp on you. Yeah, I love the Nazi thing. I throw out Nazis all the time.

[A]

They call you a Nazi.

[B]

I'm going, oh, they call. Yeah, you can say anything or call you a Nazi. I'm going, do they understand a Nazi. That's a socialist. They were. That's, that's national socialists. If anybody's the Nazis, it's the antifa crowd that says they're against fascism, where they're actually the fascist. Yeah, look what they do. Everything. And why do they cover themselves? That, to me is they're just a bunch of cowards. Why are you covering your face? Why are you covering. Why? You march around like you're an ISIS member. You know, show your face.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, be proud of what your stance, where you stand politically. And what do they do? They just attack people. They're violent with people carry their bats, they carry their guns. And the government's like, it's weird of the government to let this hat go on. Let it happen.

[A]

It is very strange.

[B]

It's. It's bizarre to me that they just these, these. And look, you look at all these states on the left coast, you look at Oregon, you look at Washington, you get California. Why are so many people moving? Two states? Number one, that don't have taxes, like here, Tennessee, Texas, Florida. Florida used to be a swing state. There's like close to a million more people now registered as conservatives in the state of Florida.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Texas, Texas. I mean, there's states. Dallas is becoming a little bit more like Austin, but they, they, they come to this state. When I moved here in 94 into. Into Vegas, there are about 700, 000 people, about 3 million people here. But a lot of the liberals that left California to move here, they still vote the same way. Yet when they voted that way in California, the state got worse. They looked at each other. Honey. We should get out of here. This is crazy. I don't know what's going on in the state. Then they move here and vote the same way. And you're going, did they learn anything? But I think the four years of Biden did, like I said, made a.

[A]

Lot of people way closer. That's why it was a landslide. I think people thought it'd be way closer. You tweeted out, is Michelle Obama a man?

[B]

Because you know the reason I do that. I saw three interviews because there's been jokes about it for a long, long, long time. It's not just me, but there's three interviews with him and the most recent one, I saw Bear Grylls and I don't know what he was doing with, with Obama. And they're walking through, they're walking through. I don't took him on a hike or something. I don't know. And he said, how's the wife doing? And Obama said, michael's doing great. I mean, Michelle's doing great. And he's done that. Three interviews. He's the one who said it, not me. And people send information to me saying he had a buddy in college named Michael. Where's Michael today? So it's like a mystery thing. And I just find that. I just find it interesting. So I met him.

[A]

You met Obama.

[B]

I met Obama. I was at a charity golf event up in Stuart, Florida. Beautiful golf course called the Floridian. And I'm walking back. They put us all in these beautiful bungalows. And I was sharing. There's a four bedroom bungalow. Each bed is like a master bedroom. And you got two levels and there's like 10 of these huts. So all this celebrity. So I was bunking with Marcus Allen and Sterling Sharp, you know, black guys. Horrible. I was both black guys and I've known those guys for years. And I'm walking back because I'm not a big party guy. So by 10:30 of the pairings party every cell in the club. I was getting drunk. I'm walking back. Cabin number one is all these Secret Service guys hanging out. And they see me and they're all like 35 or 40. So they grew up when they were 12 years old watching Hercules.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they flipped. Oh, my gosh, dude, I grew up watching your shows. We're talking. I said, who's here? This is 2020. All right? This is during. This is before. This is like five months before the election, before Biden won. And I took photos with him and stuff. And I said, who's here? I said, Obama's here is Obama's here. The windows were open. I go, Trump 2020. Screamed it out. Went, slept that night, got up to seven, got up early. I'm like a five o' clock guy. So I went to the gym to work out. Seven in the morning, Obama's in there with three of the guys that I'd met the night before.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So I'm starting my workout and I looked down at him. I could see he's kind of checking me out. And then a guy walks up to him, one of the guys I met, he said, the president would love to meet you. And on my mind, I'm going, really? Obviously not reading my Twitter account, but. And I said, there's no reason to be a jerk. You know, he was the president. He was my president. He was the president of America. Shook his hand and I said, are you playing in the golf tournament? Because no, I'm playing golf at Michael Jordan's golf course, which is not, which is close by.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I said sorry to Michael. I played with Michael before a couple times. So what's your handicap? And he goes, well, now that I'm not president, I'm golfing more. I said, dude, when you were president, you golfed all the time. And that. I said, that's not a criticism. I'm a golf nut. You can still bring all the press. They can walk on the golf course with me. Congressional golf course there is Beautiful in Washington D.C. it's an amazing golf course. They've had PGA events there and stuff. So. So don't lie to me. What's your handicap? You said, oh, I never lie. So I put my hand and shoulder. I said, Mr. President, you're a politician. That's pretty much what you guys do on both sides. And he laughed because they, they know. Yeah, yeah, they know. They all know. They lie. We all lie. We're not, you know, none of us are perfect that way. But he laughed, you know, and it was the one time I didn't have my phone with me because I forgot my earbuds because I know he wouldn't picture with me. So I'm mad at myself. Missed the opportunity because if you saw my wall of political fame at home, you would decide, where do you stand politically? Because I'm there. I'm. I met Bill Clinton a number of times. I've golf with Clinton.

[A]

Really? Oh, yeah, it was fun.

[B]

We had a good time. Look, I, when I was here in Vegas, I golfed a number of times with the 10 year governor, Bob Miller. Bob Miller's a Democrat. He knows where I stand. We get along fine one the golf course, we can give each other crap, but we get along. We have a good time golfing together. So I golfed with Bill Clinton's stepfather and he gave the okay to Bill, saying, well, Bill, he knows why. He knows who I was. And so Bill's, Bill's biological father is not his last name. Clinton is from his stepfather. His stepfather is the one that raised him, I think, since he was 2 years old. So I don't know what his biological father's last name is. So. But my wall, it's me with Clinton, me with Gorbachev. I met Gorbachev two times from Russia, both Bushes. I'm up there with Trump is on my wall. Yeah, I mean, it's a very interesting wall of political fame. And people look at it and they go, oh, my gosh. Because it's interesting to me. I met Gorbachev in New Zealand, then I met him here in Vegas. Bob Miller invited him here. There was some kind of thing going on between Russia and bringing people here to the state. And so we had a brunch together for two hours. I was sitting right across from my wife was here, his translators right there. He speaks English, but he has a way of controlling the conversation because he would say something in Russian to his translators, translator would say it to either my wife or myself. We would answer, ask one question. He would go right away into that. Before we could rebuke, he'd come back and start talking. So it was interesting how you could see the way he controlled the conversation. Yeah, but it was still cool to meet a guy at the height of the Cold War that Reagan and him butted heads for all that time and along with Maggie Thatcher, the Prime Minister of Britain at that time. For me, it was pretty neat to meet that guy. I've been lucky to meet a lot of high profile people because of the so called celebrity thing.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

And so it's been an interesting ride, but it's been fun.

[A]

Which president had the best golf game?

[B]

I gotta tell you, Trump's a good golfer.

[A]

Really.

[B]

He's in his late 70s. This guy hits 250 down the middle. Got a great short game. At 78 years old, if you look at, look at how much Obama has aged. Trump doesn't look like he's aged. The last time, 11 years. He looks the same. He loves America. I don't care what people say about that. I met him back in 2005. We golf together back then and that's when he was Donald Trump. And here's a guy that's worth less money now. He doesn't take the salary. He loves America. When we go golfing together, there's six Secret Service guys with us, two ahead. Those are the guys that found the guy with the gun. Potent, you know, they checked the entire hole making sure you're safe. Two with us to stay behind us. He golf's fast. I love it. A foursome is 2 hours and 40 minutes. Most people take four or five hours. So we're just cruising the group, the guys ahead. Once the hole's clear, if there's somebody on the hole, those people have to move over to the side. And they know it. The members that this had. Trump International.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we'll tee off. He will drive his cart over to get out of his cart, thank them all for being there, shake their hands. If he knows them because they're members, he doesn't know every member, but if he knows them, hey, how you doing? But he'll say, hey, you know us. We'll be out of your way in a heartbeat. Hope you see you inside for lunch. Do you think other presidents would do that or anybody would do that with egos and stuff? And I just. I go, you know what? And he's funny as hell. And most of the stuff he does, this Trump derangement thing, is for real. He does it just to get people's goats. And I told him back then in 2005, I've always wanted a businessman to run America, not a politician. So I take credit for planting that seed because 10 years later, he ran for office.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

But I'll tell you what I think I want to go back to term limits again, but I want more businessmen running the country than these politicians, because all they do is seem to care about themselves.

[A]

Well, if you think about it, it's. It is a business.

[B]

It is a business. We are a business.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Every country is a business. How do you want to run? Look, the. The government of China is communist, the way it controls the people, but the government itself is a capitalist. Look at them. Look at. Look what they want. Look at the deals they want. Look at the production they do for around the world, let alone America. Made in China. Made in China.

[A]

Yeah, they.

[B]

They love the money coming in, too. Let's not kid ourselves.

[A]

Yeah. They're a serious threat these days.

[B]

Oh, no question.

[A]

They might. They might pass us.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

We don't step it up.

[B]

Yeah. We're stepping up right now. We're stepping it up dude.

[A]

It's been awesome. We'll link your upcoming films below. Anything else you want to close off.

[B]

With Sorbo Studios.com is a great place to go. A lot of good stuff happening there and yeah, I just hope people would support the movies we do there. I got some wonderful movies coming out that are family movies. I get used to stopped all the time through airports, hotel, lobbies, whatever. And people say I love Hercules, love Andromeda 90 time. Now it's the movies I'm doing that are family movies. I love that people say that. You know I do a lot of speaking events. I've got four books out to myself. I do a lot of work with Kirk Cameron with Braid books. We do, we do books for like 4 to 10 year old kids that are, that are good books about just growing up and the importance of this, importance of that. It's not like it's not, it's not this woke insanity but like I said, I think that's. People are getting tired of it. Yeah, just getting tired of it.

[A]

But guys, we'll link everything below. Thanks for coming on.

[B]

Been a pleasure.

[A]

Yeah, peace, thanks.