Kyle Rittenhouse on Facing Life in Prison at 17: “It Was Insane” | DSH #1778

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour | DSH #1778 Episode: Kyle Rittenhouse on Facing Life in Prison at 17: “It Was Insane”
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Kyle Rittenhouse
Release Date: January 26, 2026

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Overview

In this candid episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Kyle Rittenhouse, whose trial and subsequent acquittal made national headlines. Rittenhouse reflects on the immense challenges of facing life in prison as a teenager, his rise to notoriety, the chilling effects of being a target of both media and public scrutiny, and his return to public advocacy after a hiatus. The conversation covers topics ranging from mental health, gun rights, media bias, political polarization, and the continuing legal and social fallout of his case, all while maintaining a raw and direct tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Facing Life in Prison as a Minor

• Rittenhouse’s Charges and Sentencing Risk
  • Faced five felony counts at age 17, including first-degree intentional homicide, reckless homicide, attempted homicide, and reckless endangerment.
  • Maximum potential sentence: Life in prison without parole, plus 300 years.
    • Quote: “I was charged with five felony counts, one of the highest count being first degree intentional homicide, reckless homicide, attempted homicide, reckless endangerment… Life in prison without parole, plus 300 years.” (Kyle, 00:00)

2. Impact of Media and Public Perception

• Media’s Role in Shaping Narrative
  • Guest and host agree the prosecution’s intensity was partly due to the public attention and desire to ‘make an example’.
    • Quote: “Insane. And I feel like when it's such a public case like that, they want to make an example out of you.” (Sean, 00:13)
  • Rittenhouse credits alternative media, podcasts, and figures like Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, and others for supporting him.
    • Quote: “Alternative media, such as your show… There are other things for people to see because nobody believes in the news anymore.” (Kyle, 05:45)

3. Post-Trial Life, Advocacy, and Social Media

• Hiatus and Return to Activism
  • Rittenhouse tried to step away from politics and live privately, moving from Texas to Florida, then Colorado for mentorship.
  • He was motivated back into the fray by observing censorship against Charlie Kirk (09:09), saying, “We are all Charlie, and we need to do it for him. We should not be silenced.” (Kyle, 01:12)
  • Deleted his old accounts, started a new presence on X (Twitter), instantly gained over 64,000 followers and 21M views on his first post.
    • Quote: “I created a new X account and it jumped up to 64,000 followers in 24 hours. Over 21 million views on my first post in under 12 hours.” (Kyle, 02:39)

4. Personal Life and Mental Health

• Finding Support Through Marriage and Dogs
  • Credits his wife for standing by him, meeting her during his hiatus.
  • Discusses the importance of his dog, Milo, as an emotional support animal especially during PTSD from the trial.
    • Quote: “During my little hiatus, I met my wife… and she's been by my side through it all.” (Kyle, 03:03)
    • Quote: “Milo is my best friend. I have two tattoos of him.” (Kyle, 03:30)
  • Connection with host, Sean, over how pets help mental health.

5. Importance of Mentorship and Legal Guidance

• Mentors During the Legal Ordeal
  • Attorneys Mark Richardson and Natalie Wisco cited as close advisors.
    • Quote: “I live and die by their advice. They're some of the closest people to me.” (Kyle, 04:14)

6. Continued Legal Struggles and Public Misinformation

• Lawsuits After Acquittal
  • Facing a $20 million civil suit by the families of the deceased—case ongoing, five years after the incident.
    • Quote: “I’m still being sued for $20 million… we just actually had traction the last week in this lawsuit.” (Kyle, 21:58)
  • Addresses public misconceptions and misinformation:
    • “There's people that think I've killed black people… saying I killed children.” (Kyle, 21:00)
    • “People only remember the first headline they see.” (Sean, 21:25)

7. Gun Rights, Policy, and Social Commentary

• Second Amendment Advocacy
  • Rittenhouse positions himself as a strong 2A advocate, citing the need for armed citizenry as a check on government and as personal protection, especially for women.
    • Quote: “The Second Amendment’s in place to protect the First Amendment…” (Kyle, 14:13)
  • Compares gun laws across states, arguing restrictive states have higher violence:
    • “Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco… highest murder rate per capita.” (Kyle, 09:44)
  • Recommends women carry for self-defense:
    • “My wife… she carries a pink Glock 43X every single day.” (Kyle, 10:05)
  • On 3D printing and gun buyback programs:
    • “A great trick is to just get a bunch of cheap receivers and 3D print them… take them to the gun buyback…” (Kyle, 15:22)
  • AR-15 controversy/debate:
    • “A semi automatic rifle saved my life. Without one, I wouldn't be here today.” (Kyle, 15:57)

8. School Security and Mass Shootings

• Advocates for Armed Security/Teachers
  • Suggests campus carry laws in Texas are effective.
    • “I haven't heard of any campus shootings at any of the colleges in Texas… since [campus carry] happened.” (Kyle, 11:52–12:23)
  • Veterans as school security:
    • “I know hundreds of veterans that'd be willing to volunteer their time to go and stand guard…” (Kyle, 13:01)

9. On Media Manipulation and Political Agendas

• Distrust of Mainstream Outlets & Political Figures
  • Opens up about disinformation; suggests conservative voices are silenced, “They want to make an example out of you.” (Sean, 00:13)

10. Threats, Public Safety, and Political Divides

• Comments on ongoing threats:
  • Receives “countless death threats each day”.
    • Quote: “I get countless debt threats each day and still.” (Kyle, 17:14)
  • Cites specific credible threats from those on the political left; mentions Ryan Sheed as a case of targeted online harassment.
    • “He's pushing towards me to cause violence towards… It’s him mobilizing other people to come and look for me and potentially cause harm.” (Kyle, 17:58)

11. Trans Movement and College Culture

• Strong Criticism of Transgender Movement
  • Frames the movement as a mental health crisis; attributes it to higher education and left-wing environments.
    • “Oh, it's 100% a mental health issue.” (Kyle, 18:59)
  • Advocates pulling funding from universities promoting gender narratives.
    • “We're here to get an education, not learn what our gender is, because God decided that way before we were born.” (Kyle, 19:53)
• International Perspective
  • Expresses concern about freedom of speech in the UK and other countries around these issues. (Kyle, 20:06–20:41)

12. The BLM Movement Exposed

• Believes Black Lives Matter was exposed as fraudulent, pushing black voters to the political right.
  • “We saw the fraud with BLM. We saw the leaders buying mansions… not actually using it to support black people.” (Kyle, 22:23)
  • Host admits donating and feeling disillusioned. (Sean, 22:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Weight of His Trial:

  • “Life in prison without parole, plus 300 years.” (Kyle, 00:00)

• On Social Media Comeback:

  • “Created a new X account… 64,000 followers in 24 hours. Over 21 million views on my first post in under 12 hours.” (Kyle, 02:39)

• On Personal Healing:

  • “Milo is my best friend… specifically task trained to help with my PTSD.” (Kyle, 03:30)

• On Facing Public Hate:

  • “I get countless debt threats each day and still.” (Kyle, 17:14)

• On Gun Rights:

  • “The Second Amendment’s in place to protect the First Amendment…” (Kyle, 14:13)
  • “A semi automatic rifle saved my life. Without one, I wouldn't be here today.” (Kyle, 15:57)

• On Political Climate:

  • “It just shows people that want to commit violence are going to commit violence… it's not fair to private citizens to not have the right to protect themselves.” (Kyle, 13:44)

• On College Influence:

  • “We're here to get an education, not learn what our gender is, because God decided that way before we were born.” (Kyle, 19:53)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 – Kyle summarizes charges and risks during his trial
• 01:12 – Why Rittenhouse stepped away, and what drew him back
• 02:39 – Social media comeback after hiatus
• 03:03 – Meeting his wife and impacts on mental health
• 04:14 – Importance of mentors and legal advice
• 09:44 – Crime rates in cities with restrictive gun laws
• 10:05 – Self-defense advice for women
• 15:57 – The AR-15 debate and personal defense
• 17:14 – Living with ongoing threats post-trial
• 18:59 – Trans movement as Rittenhouse sees it
• 21:58 – Five years of litigation, $20 million lawsuit
• 22:23 – Thoughts on BLM and impact on political divides

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Find Kyle Rittenhouse:
“Rittenhouse2Way” on all platforms (22:59)

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This episode offers an unfiltered perspective from one of the most debated public figures of recent years. Rittenhouse’s experiences—both traumatic and transformative—inform his advocacy, worldview, and political convictions. Whether listeners agree or disagree, the conversation is raw, direct, and deeply personal, offering insight into the aftermath of national controversy and the challenges of navigating life at the intersection of politics, media, and public opinion.

Transcript

[A]

I was charged with five felony counts, one of the highest count being first degree intentional homicide, reckless homicide, attempted homicide, reckless endangerment. You add all the charges up. Life in prison without parole, plus 300 years.

[B]

Insane. And I feel like when it's such a public case like that, they want to make an example out of you.

[A]

Oh, absolutely. And thank God there were people out there fighting for me in the public, in the public eye, such as Charlie Kirk. And then what happened on September 10 motivated me to get back into the fight for Charlie Kirk because his voice was silenced, and I never want to see that happen to another person ever again.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

So you.

[B]

You were done with social media? You were. If that Charlie Kirk doing didn't happen, you were ready to just quit? Okay, guys, here @amfest, day two with Kyle Rittenhouse. Let's go, man.

[A]

How's it going? Sean, thank you for having me on the digital social hour.

[B]

Absolutely, man. Is this your first time at amfest or have you been to some of the past?

[A]

No, I've been to a few Amp Fest in the past. I spoke in 21 right after my acquittal. Charlie had me on stage with him, and it was. It was an honor to be able to speak beside him, Jack Bock, and a few other people.

[B]

Let's go. How's life been lately? I'm sure it's been a lot of ups and downs since that incident.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Over the past couple years, I've been a strong advocate for the Second Amendment. I recently took a hiatus, but after what happened on September 10th, it's motivated me to get back into the fight stronger than ever, because we are all Charlie, and we need to do it for him. We should not be silenced.

[B]

You said you took a hiatus. How long was that? What went on with that? Why did that happen?

[A]

Yeah, so in January, I moved to Florida. I originally lived in Texas for a while, moved to Florida, and started dissolving my social medias a little bit and just living a little bit more private life out of the spotlight, not getting involved in politics as much, and eventually moving to Colorado to receive some mentorship from Victor Marks. And then what happened on September 10 motivated me to get back into the fight for Charlie Kirk because his voice was silenced, and I never want to see that happen to another person ever again.

[B]

Wow. So you. You were done with social media? You were. If that Charlie Kirk thing didn't happen, you were ready to just quit?

[A]

Absolutely, I was. I was done with social media, but then I saw his voice get silenced, and it wasn't okay with me.

[B]

Wow, that's crazy because you were like, so in, like in the media every day, you were blowing up. And then I go from that to just quitting.

[A]

Absolutely. And then recently, because it's been a long battle of getting back into the fight, because I want to do it correctly and I want to do it as strong as possible to carry my voice stronger, to get people to go out and vote, to be more politically active. So it's taken me a couple months to get there. I created a new X account and it jumped up to 64,000 followers in 24 hours. Over 21 million views on my first post in under 12 hours. And I was. I made that decision right then and there that I'm going to fight for Charlie.

[B]

So you deleted everything?

[A]

I deleted everything. And I'm @270 on Instagram, 270k on Instagram and 64,000 on X.

[B]

And you're not scared of the hate anymore?

[A]

I trust in the Lord. During my little hiatus, I met my wife, my beautiful wife, who's sitting right behind you. And I'm just one of the best things that could have ever happened to me. And she's been by my side through it all.

[B]

Let's go. Did you meet the dog, too? Otis or Milo?

[A]

Milo. No, I've had Milo for the last five years. I got him after while I was still on trial for my PTSD and a couple other issues.

[B]

Dogs helped with my mental health tremendously.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah. Milo is my best friend. I have two tattoos of him. I have one of his paw, one of his face.

[B]

He's. He's getting excited as you talk about it.

[A]

Yeah, he. He hears me. He hears me talking about him. He's getting a little excited.

[B]

I had crippling anxiety, mental health, depression, getting my first dog, actually. I wouldn't say cured, but, like, it helped a lot.

[A]

Absolutely. I mean, there would be times where I just want to sit there and break down, but because of my dog, he'll just cheer me up and he's there for me and he specifically task trained to help with my ptsd.

[B]

Yeah. That's incredible, man. You had such a tough fight at a young age, too.

[A]

Absolutely. I mean, it's life, but God only puts obstacles in your way that you can handle.

[B]

Did you have good. Because I know you went on Tucker Show. Did you have good guidance, good mentors guiding you through the process?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. One of my biggest mentors is Mark Richardson, of course, your opposition. They're my two attorneys. Um, I live and by Live and Die, by their advice. Um, it is. They're some of the closest people to me. Uh, Natalie Wisco, one of my other attorneys, are some of my closest advisors, and I take their advice to the heart.

[B]

Incredible. Yeah. Because you were facing some serious time, right? Some serious charges.

[A]

Yeah, I was facing life in prison without the possibility of parole.

[B]

And how old were you?

[A]

I was 17.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Not even an adult yet.

[A]

Yeah, no, I wasn't an adult. I was charged with five or six. Originally six counts, but I was charged with five felony counts. One of the highest count being first degree intentional homicide, reckless homicide, attempted homicide, reckless endangerment. You add all the charges up. Life in prison without parole, plus 300 years.

[B]

Insane. And I feel like when it's such a public case like that, they want to make an example out of you.

[A]

Oh, absolutely. And thank God there were people out there fighting for me in the public, in the public eye, such as Charlie Kirk. He was a big supporter and advocate of me when I was going through my trial. And Tucker Carlson and other people that helped push the truth, Jack Postebeck being one of them. And it was just incredible to see the amount of support. And I don't want to say right wing media, but the conservative leaders in our country actually pushing back against a less left narrative because there are so many, so much disinformation about my case that people still. I don't know anything about.

[B]

And I feel like alternative media really helped.

[A]

Yep. Alternative media, such as your show, the digital, digital social hour, is pushing on. There are other things for people to see because nobody believes in the news anymore. Nobody wants to go watch CNN or MSNBC or any of those communist news stations. I resorted to watching podcasts to get my information because, be honest, that's where some of the most accurate information is. Because unlike certain journalists that go to school for journalism and work at these big news stations, you actually take the time to research the person you're talking to or about the issue you're talking about. Unlike a lot of journalists that are reading off a teleprompter for what Mr. Soros is telling them to say.

[B]

Mr. Soros. Now, Mr. Sorus is buying some podcasts. I don't know if you saw that.

[A]

Yeah, I did see that.

[B]

He bought the, you know, the Hot One show where they eat the wings.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

He owns that one now. And a few other big ones.

[A]

Well, that just shows, because he's saying that people are more influenced by podcasts instead of news media.

[B]

There's way More downloads.

[A]

He's trying to get his foot in the door for podcasts. That's why we need to stay strong as conservative leaders and just keep pushing and fighting against that left wing narrative.

[B]

I know he sent some major outlets against you. I know you sued a couple of them. Trump's suing a few of them.

[A]

Yeah. What they did to Trump was insane. Charging him with felonies, throwing him in prison. The election fraud we saw is just honestly one of the most disturbing things I've seen in history.

[B]

Yeah. Part of me is like kind of thankful that he's president now and not then, honestly, because.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I think it ended up working out, you know?

[A]

Absolutely. I mean, we see a lot of people see what happened with Trump in Georgia and Fulton county and other Florida, how they went after him politically, and that radicalized a lot of people. A lot of people were just fed up with how the narrative was being pushed and how he was being targeted just because he was running for president, wanting to do the right thing.

[B]

Did you get to talk to him about that trauma bondage, being targeted by the media? Yeah.

[A]

So I've actually never spoken to President Trump about that issue, but I have spent some time with them. Specifically after my acquittal, I got to go to Mar a Lago and had a private meeting with him.

[B]

That's incredible.

[A]

And it was. It was really an honor just to meet him and spend some one on one time with him. And he is one of the nicest people I've ever met.

[B]

I've heard that a lot.

[A]

Yeah, man. He is one of the most genuine people as well. I don't say that about a lot of people, but he truly is extremely genuine. And what you see is what you get.

[B]

Yeah. Which I'd rather have a straight shooter than some politicians.

[A]

I mean, you had Joe Biden auto pen, who had no idea what he was talking about, and then you had Kamala Harris, who was running for president. I don't know if you saw the new polls, how Trump, who legally cannot run for another turn, is at 5% and Kamala Harris is at 4%. I find it hilarious she wants to.

[B]

Run again, which is crazy.

[A]

I don't think there's a snowflake chance in hell that she wins an election.

[B]

Newsom wouldn't beat her.

[A]

I think Newsom would beat her. But we need to get J.D. vance elected in 2028.

[B]

Yeah. I want to see that Vance Newsom debate. That'd be a good one.

[A]

Yeah, that would be a good one.

[B]

Newsom can talk, hate him. I love him.

[A]

Yeah, I think it would be a good debate and I think we'd learn a lot. But I know, I've watched some of Gavin Newsom's interviews and he does, he does speak well. But you see the communism in California. So he may be a good speaker, but he's a terrible leader.

[B]

Do you think California has the worst gun laws in the country?

[A]

I would say they're, they're definitely up there. If I had to get, if I had to say, some of the worst gun laws in the country would have to probably be New York.

[B]

New York.

[A]

New York has some of the Titus gun laws. They have some of the. Yeah, it's a lot easier to get a gun in California than it is in New York.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They're pretty up there and I would just recommend not living in either of those states.

[B]

And because they're so strict to get guns there. What are their gun violence stats? Do you know, like.

[A]

You look at the stats of like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, they have the highest murder rate per capita. And then you look at other states such as like Texas and where people can have guns to defend themselves and people are less likely to commit crimes and less likely to commit violent acts if they think the person is armed. Not even knowing if the person's armed, but just think a violent attack is less likely to occur. That's why it's so important, especially for young women. I mean my wife, I tell her she, she doesn't have a choice. She carries a pink Glock 43X every single day.

[B]

But yeah, especially women these days. They need to be.

[A]

Yeah, she's 4, 9, 95 pounds. There's no way she's going to be able to fight a 6 to 200 pound dude.

[B]

100%.

[A]

And she needs an equalizer. And a 9 mil is a great equalizer for that.

[C]

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[B]

Sean, or another shooting on a campus today. Do you think campuses should have more armed security?

[A]

I think so. If you look at Texas, we have campus carry in Texas. That was a bill that was recently passed. If you have a license to carry, you can carry a gun in Texas college campuses. I haven't heard of any campus shootings at any of the colleges in Texas. I may be wrong on that. But as of reading from when it happened, I do not believe there has been.

[B]

That's interesting.

[A]

Any.

[B]

That's very interesting.

[A]

Shootings at a Texas campus. Since that has happened. A mass shooting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then. Absolutely. I think we need to put armed securities in our schools, in our. Everywhere with our colleges. We need to protect our children because why are we protecting politicians with guns but we can't even protect children with.

[B]

Guns on a college level. It makes no sense to me even. Even high school. But like you're paying so much in taxes and tuition.

[A]

I mean. Yeah. And in certain states you're just paying for them to push the trans narrative and other narratives against other people. Why can't we do that? To hire some veterans to protect our students?

[B]

Yeah, let's give veterans some jobs. Absolutely. They got. No, a lot of them are dealing with mental health issues when they get back, they got no work.

[A]

Absolutely. I know hundreds of veterans that'd be willing to volunteer their time to go and stand guard and watch over the children at school because the children are next generation. We're in our generation right now and we're our current voices. But we have a new generation up and coming. Do I think there's a lot of problems with the new one coming up? Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's quite funny. But we need to protect them. We need to guide them in the right way for sure.

[B]

What do you think of the Bondi beach shooting in Australia couple days ago?

[A]

Look, if we had guns that could have been. If there were guns In Australia, that could have been neutralized a lot quicker. That is the one where the guy.

[B]

Came up and on the beach, killed like 11 people. I think two guys.

[A]

Yeah. And it just shows people that want to commit violence are going to commit violence, are going to get the tools necessary. And it's not fair to private citizens and other people to not have the right to protect themselves, because that's exactly what it is. It's not having the right to protect their own lives against a madman with a gun who's trying to take everybody out. So like I said, the best thing to counter something like that is an equalizer. And a 9 millimeter is a great equalizer.

[B]

It blows my mind that people are still trying to ban guns.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, look, the second amendment's in place to protect the first amendment, so I don't understand a lot of the gun bans. I think it's a political narrative, and I think it's just to try to turn us into China or Russia or another communist state and slowly disarm us. Mao took the guns. Hitler took the guns. They're trying to take the guns from us.

[B]

The government would have even more power if the guns were banned.

[A]

Absolutely. And I am a limited government person.

[B]

Same.

[A]

So the more power the government has, the less safe we are, the less rights we have.

[B]

It's also not going to stop guns being out there because look at the war on drugs. That was a fail.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. The war on drugs cartel. There's always going to be violence and guns out there. You're not going to remove hundreds of millions of firearms off the street. It's just not realistic. And it's not even in the realm of possibilities. You see, in Chicago and these other liberal states, they do these gun buybacks, but none of these gun buybacks work really. There's still violence. And honestly, a great trick is to just get a bunch of cheap receivers and 3D print them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Take them to the gun buyback and get your $50 gift cards.

[B]

That's a print some money. Absolutely, bro. So you could 3D print a gun and it actually works.

[A]

There are. With certain filaments, you can 3D print a firearm. It's not difficult. There are certain laws pertaining against it. I know you can also buy build kits like 80 arms. You can buy a 80 arm and they're completely legal in some states do have a unserialized firearm. As long as you build it personally, you keep it as your got it for yourself.

[B]

Now, you brought up nine millimeters. A lot. What about the assault rifle debate, like, do you see any issue with those?

[A]

Well, we don't have assault rifles in this country unless you're military or have an ffl. We have semi automatic rifles. Yeah, look, a semi automatic rifle saved my life. Without one, I wouldn't be here today. I think it's a tool that everybody should have the right to use. I hunt with, I pig hunt with AR15S556 and sitting at home right now, my home defense Rifle is an AR15. It's a tool.

[B]

And you got some land, huh?

[A]

I don't have land. I have friends with land. That's the trick. Don't buy land, get friends with land.

[B]

Do you think that's a good self defense for the house gun?

[A]

For me personally, that's what I prefer. I would say use what you're comfortable with, get training. Shotguns are always great options, but that is just what I personally have for myself.

[B]

Dude, in the digital era, with all the haters I got, I need to get some training. For sure.

[A]

Hey, come out to Texas. I'm a. I'm a licensed firearms instructor with CCA now.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Get some lead down range and get you trained up.

[B]

Let's go, baby. Yeah, I need that, man. Can't be too safe these days.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Like you walk in the door, it's on site, right?

[A]

I mean, it depends on where you go. There's certain areas I won't go. Like I won't go to San Francisco without security. I won't go to Chicago without security.

[B]

Yeah, especially you. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I get countless debt threats each day and still. Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It's been like five years. I mean, we saw what Ryan Sheed, that liberal said. Oh, I'll read it to you.

[B]

He tweeted it.

[A]

He put out a tweet, Brian.

[B]

I never even heard of this.

[A]

He's going to be searching for me, looking for me at Amfest and he's here. No, no, no, he's not allowed in here.

[B]

Wow, that's a threat.

[A]

Yeah, it's 100% a threat. But his compulsive disorder of being obsessed over me. Hundreds of tweets he's ever posted.

[B]

You got to get a restraining order on this guy.

[A]

It's clinically insane. The violence he's pushing against me and other people that are here is diabolical.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He has over, I think 300,000 followers on X and those are all people he's pushing towards me to cause violence towards Jesus. Him putting something out. We're Going to be looking for you. Kyle Rittenhouse is not just him saying he's going to be looking for me, but it's him mobilizing other people to come and look for me and potentially cause harm.

[B]

That's nuts. I mean, look at who killed Charlie. Right?

[A]

Crazy guy on the left. They say so. Absolutely. A gay furry lover.

[B]

Yeah, you gotta be. There's a SSRI link to mass shooters, too. Did you see that?

[A]

Yep. Absolutely. I mean, we saw what happened in Nashville and saw what happened with Charlie Kerf, These trans shooters. We saw some of these Trump shooters, the two Trump assassins who are tied to these left wing trainees. And there are. It's all trans related. So we need. And the trans. We need a. We need a one fight back against the trans agenda and to. We need to protect our children. Just outright ban it because one is disgusting, too. It's not bad before. Right.

[B]

And you think the trans movement is like a mental health issue?

[A]

Oh, it's 100% a mental health issue. And I feel bad for a lot of them because I believe that they got the help they needed. They could be better humans as society and contribute a little bit better, and we wouldn't have to worry about them potentially trying to assassinate us.

[B]

I know.

[A]

My.

[B]

So this girl I hooked up with in college changed her gender, and I highly think it's just the environment she was in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I went to a liberal college and people were supporting it.

[A]

Well, a funny story is I was reconnecting with one of my close friends from Illinois the other day, and he was telling me about someone we used to work with that he was dating. And she went to University of Illinois and she was taking an arts class, and she was one of the sweetest girls you'll ever meet. And then she was indoctrinated by that college, and now she thinks she's a dude.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. So these universities are dangerous.

[A]

Yeah. I think the first step is pulling funding for any universities that push this narrative. Because, look, we're here to get an education, not learn what our gender is, because God decided that way before we were born.

[B]

Yeah. And there's some in Cali that will, like, really promote it, right?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, in some states, I'd probably get thrown in prison for saying what I'm saying. I know in some countries, and like, specifically the uk, I'd probably get thrown.

[B]

In prison for saying, oh, yeah, UK is. I don't think I'll ever go there.

[A]

Yeah, I. I was supposed to go there for an event But I don't think I would go to the UK either. I'd been invited to speak at a college out there and do a debate and I just did not want to go to the uk.

[B]

I know two people, there's one at this event that's been detained as soon as they landed in the uk.

[A]

Yeah, I can almost guarantee if I went there, I'd be probably detained almost immediately.

[B]

You do a lot of debates, though?

[A]

It depends. I speak at a lot of universities. For Turning Point, I've done. I. I've gone to Memphis, which was a very interesting event because a lot of people at the University of Memphis, it shows that they go to University of Memphis and they can't really debate. Yeah, it. It's interesting seeing the narrative that some people try to accuse me of. There's people that think I've killed black people. There's one lady down in Texas when I was helping out with an Andy Hopper race. If you're in Texas, go vote for Andy Hopper in the primary election, by the way, but was saying I killed children. And not a lot of people know the back records of the people who attacked me. What they're. Who they were as people and what their history was like.

[B]

Yeah, well, people only remember the first headline they see.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even if you get cleared, which you did, they don't remember that.

[A]

Yeah, they read Black Lives Matter rally, not BLM riot, mostly peaceful but fiery protests. And I'll tell you, I was there. It was a war zone.

[B]

I mean, BLM since been exposed since you. Your incident. So I feel like you've been vindicated.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I'm still being sued for $20 million.

[B]

By who?

[A]

By the families of the deceased who attacked me.

[B]

Five years.

[A]

Yeah, it's been five years. And believe it or not, we just actually had traction the last week in this lawsuit.

[B]

God, they've been dragging that out there.

[A]

For five years of them just demanding a bunch of nonsense. And I'm sure this is going to get played in depositions and they're going to ask me about the questions on this interview. But look, I'm not worried. I defended myself and it's all on video and I have no money for them to take.

[B]

That's unreal, bro. BLM literally got exposed.

[A]

Like, we saw the fraud with blm. We saw the leaders buying mansions and taking all the money and not actually using it to support black people. Yeah, it was really a disgrace to the entire movement, dude. It was what they, what they did.

[B]

Honestly, I donated because I believed it at the time.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, black lives do matter. Everybody's lives matter and it's equal. But I think it pushed a lot of black people to the right. Seeing that get exposed.

[B]

Hundred percent.

[A]

Being completely honest.

[B]

Yeah. It made it made them look worse.

[A]

Honestly, 100%. Yeah.

[B]

But dude, thanks for your time. I'll be supporting you. Where can people find you?

[A]

And yeah, all my social medias are written house two way. You find me there.

[B]

Awesome. Thanks for.

[A]

Thank you for having you.

[B]

And Milo, thank you. See you guys.

[C]

I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm.

[A]

Thank you.