Legal Theft Is Happening In America... | Bobby Khan | DSH #1987

Summary

Podcast Summary: Legal Theft Is Happening In America... | Bobby Khan | DSH #1987

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Bobby Khan (Congressional Candidate, Nevada)
Release Date: May 29, 2026

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Overview

In this forthright and energetic episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Bobby Khan, an outspoken congressional candidate from Nevada, to discuss the failings of the American justice system, systemic government corruption, challenges facing Las Vegas, and the need for authentic political representation. Khan shares personal experiences with the justice system, offers critiques of entrenched political and economic power structures, and champions a populist, common-sense approach to reform.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Perpetual Growth of Government and Criminal Justice System

• Bobby Khan kicks off the episode asserting that American institutions are designed to self-perpetuate rather than solve root issues:
  • The economy is built to sustain government jobs, the prison system, courts, judges, prosecutors, bail bondsmen, and related industries.
  • Quote: “Nobody knows how to create real jobs. So what jobs do you always create? Government jobs. And now you got to keep these people employed. So you also got to keep prisons full, you got to keep the courts full...” (00:00)

2. Motivations for Running for Congress

• Khan’s frustration with career politicians:
  • Disengagement from real issues and using scripts/teleprompters at public appearances.
  • Vows to run a candid, open campaign with public access and no gatekeeping.
  • Quote: “Anytime I'm around a politician, I feel like I want to take a bath with bleach... I'll speak for 40 minutes on a stage with no script... My campaign—it's for the people. That's what it's for.” (00:39, 01:19, 01:51)

3. Systemic Issues in Las Vegas and America

• Las Vegas problems:
  • Casinos and small businesses are struggling, homelessness and failing infrastructure, veterans and seniors in poverty, broken education system, and business regulations that stifle competitiveness.
  • One-fifth of Americans have criminal records, which curtails opportunities and perpetuates cycles of poverty and incarceration.
  • Quote: “America was...the American dream was, hey, you had an idea, you went out there and you worked hard and you succeeded and you made money. You bought a house, you bought a car, and you raised your family. Yeah, can't do that nowadays.” (02:14)
  • “The average American commits three felonies a day.” (03:31)

4. Racial Inequity and Recidivism in Justice System

• Catastrophic stats for Black men in America:
  • “One in two black men will be charged with a felony before age 26…36% of their population of black men are convicted felons.”
  • Recidivism rate is 87% (within 18 months), indicating a system designed for failure rather than rehabilitation. (03:40 – 04:34)
  • “They literally, when you leave prison, they're like, hey, we'll leave the lights on for you because they're expecting you to come back.” (04:26)

5. Collateral Consequences of Conviction

• Legal discrimination against felons:
  • Barred from jobs, voting rights, gun rights, even from visiting the White House—but not for those with power.
  • Anecdote: Despite being cleared and invited, Khan was denied White House entry for being a felon, while Trump (a convicted felon) had “access to the nuclear codes.” (05:27 – 05:37)

6. Two-Tiered Justice & Public Disillusionment

• The “Epstein files” exemplify elite impunity—regular people risk prison for petty offenses, while the rich and connected evade prosecution.
  • “If you don’t arrest people that are in these Epstein files...You’re saying that we have different rules and you have different rules.” (06:42)
  • Public outrage is boiling: “Somebody better get arrested or we're not voting.” (07:04)

7. Legal “Theft” Through Asset Forfeiture and Lawfare

• Describes the legal mechanisms by which people’s property is seized without conviction:
  • Post-9/11 Patriot Act enables civil asset forfeiture.
  • Cites $85 million in property seized in Beverly Hills without charges; a veteran stripped of life savings in Nevada.
  • Quote: “You never have to charge you with a crime...they can just take your money. That’s allowed under the law.” (09:26 – 10:31)
  • Most victims never recover their losses, lacking resources or even proof for legal battles.

8. Critique of Federal Law Enforcement Expansion

• Argues for strengthening local/state police over federal agencies like the FBI, whose growth Khan links to worsening crime and eroded community safety.
  • “Our towns were safe...The moment you put the FBI in place, what happened? Crime went up...Now they're like fucking full-on military guys.” (13:05, 13:45)
  • “Our government’s gotten too big...Every time there’s a new president, you know, when they want to add jobs, what do they do? They add government jobs. They’re not adding private sector jobs.” (15:21, 15:36)

9. War on Drugs & Hypocrisy in Enforcement

• U.S. government is “the biggest drug dealer” (refers to CIA-contra drug smuggling, as depicted in media).
  • “If you ban stuff, what happens?...You ban guns? It's gonna make it worse, guns will still make it onto the streets easily.” (16:16 – 17:52)
• Warns that bans don’t eradicate problems, only drive them underground.

10. Populist Reform Platform & Campaign

• Khan runs on independent, common-sense reforms representing voters of all affiliations.
• Open access to constituents: multiple live sessions a day, Bobby After Dark events, direct engagement.
  • “I'm not Willy Wonka. I'm not going to sugarcoat shit...There’s no fucking safe spaces.” (18:19)
  • Wants “zero taxes on gambling winnings, zero taxes for veterans, updating cash reporting laws, taking land back from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) for affordable housing.” (25:07)

11. Economic and Social Shifts in Las Vegas

• Danger of Wall-Street-run casinos and REITs prioritizing shareholders over local communities.
  • “Was the town better when it was run by the mob?...Thousands of comments came in, right? And everyone said absolutely. It was.” (26:13 – 26:39)
• Comparing past and present:
  • Decline in customer service, rising costs, Las Vegas losing competitive edge to other destinations and online gambling.
  • Experience anecdote: $8 for a single slice of bread, $8 for sauce at a Strip restaurant (“Bread is complimentary always.” 35:50)
• Warns that continued corporate consolidation and poor governance will turn Las Vegas into “another Atlantic City or Detroit.” (29:05)

12. The Reality of Surviving Federal Prosecution

• Khan shares his own brushes with the justice system, describing the financial, reputational, and psychological devastation wrought by federal charges.
  • “When you’re facing 40 years in prison...it destroys everything...Most people can't handle it.” (38:39 – 38:56)
  • Recounts being denied the right to visit his son’s grave on bail—“Tell your client he is property of the federal government and that it’s not important for him to go see his son’s grave.” (40:44)
• Critiques the 97% federal conviction rate as a result of coercion and asset seizures that break defendants.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On justice & recidivism: “They literally, when you leave prison, they’re like, hey, we’ll leave the lights on for you because they’re expecting you to come back.” (04:26)
• On elite impunity: “You mean to tell me somebody’s going to go to prison for selling pot...but you could be a part of a pedophile ring and you’re not going to get locked up?” (07:04)
• On asset forfeiture: “They took $85 million worth of jewelry, money, all kinds of stuff that was in all these boxes. Not one person that had a box there was ever charged with a crime.” (09:55)
• On running as an independent: “I skipped the primary, saved myself a million dollars and go straight to general election...now everybody can vote for me.” (23:22 – 24:13)
• On Las Vegas nostalgia: “When you walked into a casino in the 60s, 70s, 80s, you got treated like a king...You didn’t have homelessness...You didn’t have the shootings.” (26:35)
• On surviving prosecution: “When you’re dealing with the federal government every day...for them, it’s a game. It’s not about laws...you’re another notch on their belt.” (38:56 – 40:56)
• On resilience: “I’m built differently, clearly. I’m built differently.” (41:59)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00 – Opening critique of government jobs and criminal system
• 01:16 – Khan’s common-sense campaign and commitment to open dialogue
• 02:14–05:00 – Las Vegas’ core issues, statistics on criminal records and recidivism
• 05:27–06:23 – Khan’s White House exclusion story vs. Trump’s case
• 06:42–08:33 – Epstein files, elite impunity, and public outrage
• 09:23–12:10 – Asset forfeiture: law enforcement seizing property without convictions
• 13:05–15:24 – Overreach of federal law enforcement, need for local control
• 16:16–18:17 – War on Drugs critique; parallels with prohibition and guns
• 18:36 – Candid campaign approach, disdain for sugarcoating
• 23:21–24:13 – Strategy for independent candidacy and impact
• 26:35–29:05 – Las Vegas’ decline, casino consolidation, Wall Street’s role
• 35:28–38:56 – Stories about deteriorating customer experience on the Strip
• 38:39–42:08 – Khan’s legal battles, personal cost, and resolve to fight

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Conclusion

This conversation delivers unvarnished criticisms of systemic corruption in government, the justice system, and corporate America, contextualized in the unique culture and challenges facing Nevada. Bobby Khan stands as an emblem of populist frustration—calling for transparency, justice reform, and a return to locally-rooted, accountable leadership. His personal tales of legal battles, combined with pragmatic economic analysis and appeals for common-sense reforms, make for a compelling, provocative episode.

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Find Bobby Khan:

• Instagram: @realbobbykhan
• Website: BobbyKhanForCongress.com
• In-person: “Bobby After Dark” events every Thursday in Las Vegas

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“I’m not Willy Wonka. I’m not going to sugarcoat shit...There’s no fucking safe spaces in life.” — Bobby Khan (18:19)

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This summary has excluded non-content segments, advertisements, and routine podcast wrap-up language, focusing solely on substantive discussion points and original tone.

Transcript

[Bobby Khan]

Nobody knows how to create real jobs. So what jobs do you always create? Government jobs. And now you got to keep these people employed. So you also got to keep prisons full, you got to keep the courts full, you got to keep judges busy, you got to keep prosecutors busy, you got to keep the bail bondsmen busy, you got to keep the guys that are running the prisons and all the companies that supplied to them. It's literally when you leave prison, they're like, hey, we'll leave the lights on for you because they're expecting you to come back. Foreign.

[Interviewer]

Guys. Got Bobby here running for Congress based out here in good old Nevada.

[Bobby Khan]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

What made you want to run for Congress?

[Bobby Khan]

A lot of reason, but I just got tired of the system. I got tired of career politicians. You know, I sat back for far too long. I hate politics. I apologize. Anytime I'm around a politician, I feel like I want to take a bath with bleach. And I never paid attention to, like, I pay attention to what's happening in the world, but I never got wanted to get involved in the game. And it was finally after, like, you know, just watching and trying to support people and you're like, nobody does anything. But it was bought and sold. And if you really want some change, you know, my father told me, you got to go out and do it yourself.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

And that's why I decided I'm going to do it myself. I'm going to run out, go out there and run on a common sense agenda.

[Interviewer]

Respect. Yeah. Politicians are some of my toughest interviews.

[Bobby Khan]

I. Because they're just bland. They got nothing to say. They're afraid to speak because. Because they needed a puppet master to tell them what to do. Like, you know, I mean, I don't know if I could jump in right now or. You're still talking. I want to do your intro. But the problem with politicians I see is like, if you ever come to one of my events, right, I'll speak for 40 minutes on a stage with no script. Like, there's no teleprompter, there's no notes, there's no nothing. These people, they can't have a five minute speech without notes or without looking down. They can't answer questions. You know, I don't know if you've been watching my Instagram. I go around town every day. I do my events every week. And they're open to the public. The only time a politician does an event is if you donate to them, then you can come and talk to them. Otherwise, me, I'm like, I Don't care who you are, you know, you live here. Come on out. I don't care what you do for a profession. Come on out. Because I want to run to represent you. And. And that's something that was missing, and that's what I'm trying to do. I'm running my campaign. It's for the people. That's what it's for.

[Interviewer]

Was there any issues you were seeing that you just really wanted to address?

[Bobby Khan]

A million issues. I mean, at the end of the day, right now, let's just take Las Vegas, for example, right? You have. The casinos are struggling, right? You have small business owners struggling. You have veterans sleeping in the streets. You have homelessness on the rise, education systems in the toilet. Our infrastructure is failing. Right? I mean, the list goes on. Seniors are struggling. Seniors benefits are being ripped off. Right? I mean, and then, like, you just look at everything to do business in this country, in this state, it's impossible. When. How are you supposed to be competitive with China and India, Believe it or not, when we make it so difficult to do business, when we make everything so impossible? When you have one fifth of your population have criminal records, there's a problem. And then that one fifth of the population's told that they can't actually go out there and hold proper jobs and contribute to society. You know, you have a problem. You're on a path to destruction. No matter what you say, you cannot prosper if you basically restrict people from going out there and doing what, you know, being the best there could be. I mean, America was. The American dream was, hey, you had an idea, you went out there and you worked hard and you succeeded and you made money. You bought a house, you bought a car, and you raised your family. Yeah, can't do that nowadays.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, one fifth, wow. That's way harder.

[Bobby Khan]

80 million people criminal record. One in five Americans. You know what? The average American commits? Three felonies a day.

[Interviewer]

I did know that.

[Bobby Khan]

What?

[Interviewer]

I did know that.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

But one fifth, I did not know that.

[Bobby Khan]

That is one fifth. One in, one in two black men will be charged with a felony before age 26. 3. 36% of their population of black men are convicted felons. Because of our laws, because of 87% recidivism rate, because we're. We're setting up a system to fail people. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Because what happens, nobody knows how to create real jobs. So what jobs do you always create? Government jobs. And now you got to keep these people employed. So you also got to keep prisons full, you got to keep the courts full, you got to keep judges busy, you got to keep prosecutors busy, you got to keep the bail bondsman busy, you got to keep the guys that are running the prisons and all the companies that supplied to them. It's, you know, they literally, when you leave prison, they're like, hey, we'll leave the lights on for you because they're expecting you to come back.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

The recidivision rate or whatever, 7%, 87%. Yeah, that is high.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, that's high. So that means 87% of the people that leave prison, within 18 months, we'll be back in prison.

[Interviewer]

It's crazy. That is unreal. So it clearly shows to me that it doesn't work, though.

[Bobby Khan]

It doesn't work. And that's why I put together my plan, because, you know, I said, look, at this rate that we're going, we're going to end up having over 100 million people with a criminal record. How is that? How do we function as a society? And then when somebody has a criminal record, you're told, you can't be a, you know, a stockbroker, you can't be a real estate agent. You can't sit there and sell cars in certain states. Right. You can't hold a gun. You can't do it. We're taking people's gun rights away. We're taking people's voting rights away. How are you supposed to contribute? How are you supposed to take care of the next generation of kids when you can't actually. You can't even get a job at Uber or McDonald's when you're a convicted felon. Wow.

[Interviewer]

I didn't know that.

[Bobby Khan]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You can't go to the White House. Right?

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, you can't go to White House. But. But meanwhile, President Trump's a felon, is he? Yes, he is.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

He was convicted. Wow. I mean, regardless of the fact that he got railroaded, he still has a felony on his record. He still has access to the nuclear codes. Now, I like President Trump, you know, but the fact is that he is a felon. And when I went to the White House, I was told I wasn't allowed.

[Interviewer]

Oh, you tried to get in?

[Bobby Khan]

Oh, yeah. So I was invited. I had an invite. So the chairman of the Republican Party got me an invite and had me submit everything to the Secret Service. Took five days to get everything submitted. I submitted everything, and I got an approval with a gate pass and everything. And we pull up to the White House, walk up to the front door. And I was told I wasn't allowed in because I'm a convicted felon. But I'm like, you approved me. You ran my background. You knew what, everything about me wasn't allowed in.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Khan]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

That is nuts. Yeah. It seems like some people are above the law.

[Bobby Khan]

It's. Well, you know what it is? It's basically whoever's allowed in is allowed in. You know, you have a special pass to come in. You have to come in. You bypass security, and that's it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I just. I just mean, like, it comes to the Epstein files, like, certain people won't get arrested.

[Bobby Khan]

Oh, yeah. These Epstein files, if we don't see people getting perp walked, you're going to have a. When it comes to the midterm election, it's going to be a problem because people are pissed off. I mean, if you read the comments, people want to see arrest because at the end of the. You know, like, think about it. If you don't arrest people that are in these Epstein files, what are you saying to the world? You're saying that we have different rules and you have different rules. So next time you get pulled over for a speeding ticket, right, and you, you know, you don't have your license or something like that, and the cop wants to arrest you, what do you say? Well, you're going to arrest me, but you're not going to arrest the pedophiles. That's what people are saying, right? People like, hold on. You mean to tell me somebody's going to go to prison for selling pot or, you know, trading stock, but you could be a pedophile, part of a pedophile ring, and you're not going to get locked up. Think about it, right? I mean, like, somebody. The heads need to roll, you know, like, you can't be sitting there telling me that there's this giant ring going on, but not one person's gonna get arrested. And that is the frustration. And I talk to people every day. You should read the comments. I made a post about this whole Epstein thing the other day. I had 1400 comments, and every person was like, somebody better get arrested or we're not voting. Wow. We're not voting. And people are like, we voted Republican. I'm not voting at all. And people are pissed. And that is the real thing. Don't listen to what the news is telling you, because the news is going to cover up for whatever they're going to cover up or whatever their agenda is.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Talk to the people.

[Interviewer]

The people are Actually, people are pissed. Yeah, very pissed. I look at my comments too.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, because think about it, people are like, hold on. You're basically telling us to our face right now that we do, we sneeze the wrong way, going to get locked up, but you guys can get away with all this and nothing happens. Think about it. What are your thoughts on that?

[Interviewer]

I mean, it sucks, you know, and let's be honest with the lawfare system. You need some money to play in that space too.

[Bobby Khan]

Oh, without a doubt. I mean, listen, fighting the justice system right now is like jumping into a ring with Mike Tyson in his prime, right? Blindfolded, with your hands tied behind your back. And how our justice system works is this. If they can't win, they keep changing the goalpost, Right? Like back in the day, they couldn't lock up the gangsters. So what do they do? They come up with something called rico, right? Then the people started hiring lawyers and beating it. So what they do, then it started going off to the lawyers and say, well, now you have to prove where you got your money from to hire your lawyer. So now the lawyer's like, I don't want to get involved. So now you don't have lawyers either. So now then it's like, okay, now we're going to do asset forfeiture without a criminal conviction. So we don't have to convict you, but we can still take your money away from you. Now you can't hire lawyers.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

That's how it works.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Khan]

9 11, right? 911 happens every time something happens in this country. They use fear mongering to take more of your rights away. Right? So what'd they do? They come up with a Patriot Act. The Patriot act gives them asset forfeiture without a criminal conviction. Basically they say, hey, you know what? I don't like Sean. I might take his money away. They never have to charge you with a crime. Literally. I don't know if you know that. We've been following that story in Beverly hills with the $85 million that the feds took.

[Interviewer]

No.

[Bobby Khan]

So in Beverly Hills, there was like a, like a mailbox store, right? Like, you know, where people have boxes and stuff like that and safes and stuff. The feds go in there and they took $85 million worth of jewelry, money, all kinds of stuff that was in all these boxes. Not one person that was had a box there was ever charged with a crime. And those people have been fighting to get their money back. It's almost been a decade.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Bobby Khan]

And Nothing. Not one person got charged. All the Fed said was, we suspected that there was a crime being committed here, but no one was charged.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that money's gone.

[Bobby Khan]

It's gone. They're not gonna get it back. Yeah, but that's allowed under the law. How is that allowed in here? In town Vegas, there was a guy, he was a veteran. He was moving out of Arizona, and he was moving to Vegas, and he took all his money out of his bank account, packed up his car and drove across the border. He got pulled over by state police when he crossed the border, and they asked him if he had any money. He said, yeah, I do. They said, let us look at it. And they took his money and they ran the dog. Police dog on him. They said, well, we smell drugs on it. He says, okay, it's money. It's dirty. All money is dirty. Right. They took his money, all his life savings and just left. Gone. Because they're allowed to take his money. And what they do is if a state police pulls you over, a local police pulls you over, they split it 50, 50 with the feds. Wow. They can keep 50. They can. And then the thing is, they're allowed to do anything they want with it. This guy actually fought and fought and fought. He actually had somebody get. Go to his defense and fought, and the judge ordered that his money be returned. He was one of the lucky ones that got his money back. Most people don't have the fortitude or the resources to go and fight for your money back a hundred percent.

[Interviewer]

He spent a ton of legal.

[Bobby Khan]

Right. Yeah. Well, there was an organization that did it for him. But most people, they're like, hold on. How am I going to get my money back? On top of that, you have to prove, like, every dollar where it came from.

[Interviewer]

Good luck with that.

[Bobby Khan]

Good luck with that. How many people know, like, if you had your life savings, right. And you, you know, like, he was simple. He had. He was a W2 guy. So he had. Was able to account. But if you're a business owner, you know how things are.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Cash.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, exactly. So now what do you do?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You're not proven shit.

[Bobby Khan]

Let's just say you work in a strip club. Right. Or whatever it is. You work in a tip business. What are you gonna do then?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Can't do shit.

[Bobby Khan]

No.

[Interviewer]

And they don't know how much they took, right?

[Bobby Khan]

No. That's it. It's gone.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. They could just say they took less.

[Bobby Khan]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Yep. It's your word against theirs. And everybody always believes law enforcement yeah, that's.

[Interviewer]

That sucks, man. You think? It's pretty corrupt overall.

[Bobby Khan]

Law enforcement, our justice, our Department of Justice needs to be completely overhauled. Our department, like, think about this, okay? And I made a post about this. I'm going to talk about not. See, I think local police is what we need. Okay. Think about 100 years ago. Local police and state police handled everything and everything was fine. Our towns were safe. Our cities were safe. Right. Things weren't. Were copacetic. The moment you put the FBI in place, what happened?

[Interviewer]

Crime went up.

[Bobby Khan]

Crime went up. Our cities today, 100 years later, are worse off today than they were when just local police handled it. You know why? Because most of these local guys, they live in your town, they live in your neighborhoods, right. You see them out there patrolling every day. These guys are the ones that should get all the resources. We don't. We're handing out $150,000 salaries to FBI agents and all the other benefits. I mean, the FBI's original charter was Federal Bureau of Investigations. They weren't allowed to go arrest people. Their job was just to be an investigative authority and help the local police. Wow.

[Interviewer]

It's come a long way from that.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. Now they're like fucking full on military guys. Yeah. But the thing is, we need more assets for our local police. That's where I would shift stuff to help the local cops, help the state police over here. You got state police that's suffering in our state. Why these guys live here. These guys are locals.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Why don't we help them?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. The state police get a bad rep.

[Bobby Khan]

The state police get a bad rep

[Interviewer]

if they have quotas to pull over.

[Bobby Khan]

But the thing is, because they're not getting everything that they should be getting.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

We're giving everything to the feds. The feds just keep getting more and more powerful, but our streets get unsafer. And then here's the thing. Here's. Here's one of the things that I always have an issue with, right? So there's a. A poor guy, a cop on the road, right? He comes across a crime scene and he's doing his bit. He's there. He's the first one on the scene. And next thing you know, some FBI and a blue FBI agent shows up in his blue blazer and throwing his badge and demeaning the cops to take over. Why? That guy lives there. He's there on the first on the scene. He's probably put his life on the line. You show up after the fact. Yeah, it's Metro. That shows Up. It's state police that shows up. One of the feds show up last. After. After everything's done.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And then they take over from there.

[Bobby Khan]

They take over from there.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It's like a power dynamic, Right?

[Bobby Khan]

That's what it is.

[Interviewer]

I think they're above.

[Bobby Khan]

Exactly. They have a God complex.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you on that, man, there. I mean, that goes for a lot of other agencies, too. There's DEA, over 100 agencies now. Government agencies.

[Bobby Khan]

We have way too many government. Our government's gotten too big.

[Interviewer]

Way too big.

[Bobby Khan]

You know, I mean, here's the problem. Every time there's a new president, you know, when they want to add jobs, what do they do? They had government jobs. They're not adding private sector jobs. They want to just go and add government jobs.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

And so easy to add another law enforcement agency. Why do you need this many law enforcement agencies? I think our state police and our local police can handle it. Because clearly, over time, we've proven that by adding all these agencies, it's only gotten worse. Hand everything to the state and local cops and say, this is it. You handle your state. Everything in your state, you handle. And let the FBI be the investigative authority that says, okay, we will help you investigate and give you the details that you need so you can go out and make arrests. That's it. Put them behind desks, tell them to shut the fuck up.

[Interviewer]

That's how it should be.

[Bobby Khan]

That's how it should be. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And the war on drugs made drugs worse.

[Bobby Khan]

Well, think about it. You wanted to knock out Pablo Escobar. What happened? Drugs got worse. You wanted to knock out El Chapo. Drugs got worse. But if you think about it, we were. Our government was the biggest drug dealer. If. I don't know if you remember that they were bringing the drugs into the country to fund their wars in South America. The CIA brought all the drugs in, gave it to the guy. The drug dealers in California. I mean, California and LA and stuff like that. And they took that money to fund their wars in South America. Wow, that's. There's a. There's a movie about it. And there's a show, Snowfall. I don't know if you saw that show. Okay. You got to watch it. And Johnny Depp did a movie about it.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy. I didn't know that.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. And the CIA finally admitted it, and I think it was like 2009 or something. Like, they finally came out and admitted that they did that.

[Interviewer]

That's nuts. They just took out the. The Mexican cartel guy last week.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, but okay, you know, I mean, look, at the end of the day, we all know, I mean, you could sit there and pretend, you know, oh, you know, they're trying to knock out these drug dealers. They're going to try to knock out just enough so they can get the captions and the headlines, okay? Every president does it. Every single one. At the end of the day, they know that that will go on. I mean, when you ban stuff, what happens? You banned alcohol in the 1920s. What happened?

[Interviewer]

They sell it in the black market.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. And how many people got rich? The Kennedy family made a fortune. Everybody made. Nobody stopped drinking. They banned drugs back in the day. Everybody's using drugs.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

You ban something, it doesn't mean like. That's the same thing with guns, right? People are like, ban guns. I'm like, really? You ban guns? What's gonna happen?

[Interviewer]

Don't make it worse.

[Bobby Khan]

It's gonna make it worse. Guns will still make it onto the streets easily. You're just not gonna be able to buy them at the stores. You can't ban something because people will find a way to bring it in. It just. It doesn't work. Now, you can try to control it, but it doesn't mean like, that's just human nature.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

I mean, a lot of people like to live in a fantasy world. I live in a real world.

[Interviewer]

I think you should run on that. You'll win.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, I do. Listen, I always say, know I'm not Willy Wonka. I'm not going to sugarcoat shit. That's it. That's not my job. I'm just going to tell you how it is. You may not like it, you may not like the fact because it's reality, but there's no safe spaces in life. You can say all you want, there's no fucking safe spaces.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Who's the person you're Running against?

[Bobby Khan]

A 76 year old woman named Dena Titus.

[Interviewer]

Dina Titus. Yes. What a name.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, Dina Titus. I'm sorry.

[Interviewer]

Titus. And she's. She's had the seat for a while.

[Bobby Khan]

I'd imagine she got into the seat when her friend left the seat in 2013. You want to know her greatest accomplishment since 2013? Take a wild guess.

[Interviewer]

Thirteen years in Congress. What has she accomplished?

[Bobby Khan]

Yep. Her greatest accomplishment?

[Interviewer]

I can't even guess, honestly.

[Bobby Khan]

She spearheaded legislation that said every light bulb in federal buildings across the country should be changed to an LED light bulb. That's what she managed to get done.

[Interviewer]

Save some money.

[Bobby Khan]

That's it. That's mad that that is what. She came up with that on her own, I take it? I mean, like, I mean, she was probably changing her light bulb at home and said, oh, good idea. That's what I'm going to do. That's my claim to fame, Dina Titus. I mean, when she retires, when she empties my office, I'm going to make sure I give her a golden light bulb.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, do it, man. So you're going to debate her then? Soon.

[Bobby Khan]

I've been asking for debates. Okay. I've been asking for debates and she won't do it.

[Interviewer]

Damn. I was going to say, I'll set it up.

[Bobby Khan]

I've been posting videos since. Was it now at this point, August,

[Interviewer]

don't you have to for Congress or no?

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, but they can avoid you as long as possible.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Bobby Khan]

Eventually it'll happen eventually. Hopefully they'll probably do one.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Bobby Khan]

But I mean, like I've been saying, here's what I wanted. I wanted a two hour town hall open to the public, right? I said, people can ask anything they want, hand the microphone to the public and just take. Pass it around the room. Open to the public, open to the press. You come in, you want to talk about anything you want, right? We'll answer the questions. No notes, no teleprompters, no earpieces, no handlers. That's all I want. I said, if you're running for Congress, you should be able to answer any question out there. There's no reason that you would hide. Why are you hiding?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Nope, dead silence.

[Interviewer]

I think people are going to want transparency this next midterms.

[Bobby Khan]

What do you think I do? I'm out there every day, right? I'm. I'm the only candidate that's running for Congress or any political office that goes live on Instagram five times a day.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

And I answer, yeah, five times a day. I go live and I ask for. So I go live in the morning, afternoons, I do as I'm walking, as I'm smoking my cigar, I'm out there. I say, here, answer, you know, ask me a question. Unlike my opponents, I'm not a dumbass. I'll answer anything, you know, and people fire away. If you ever watch one of my lives, people get into it, I gotta tune in. Yeah, yeah. So like, you know, if you were. If you want to ask me a question, I'm the only candidate that you can reach at any time. You can come to my events. I do a Bobby after Dark event every Thursday night. Come on out there, right? I walk around the room, I talk to everybody. You can ask me anything right there. I'm not afraid of it. You know, if you're my. Like, I have people that come to my events that are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, I don't care. I'm going to run to represent everybody.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Bobby Khan]

So why wouldn't I talk to them?

[Interviewer]

You're running independent.

[Bobby Khan]

I'm running as an. I was running as a Republican, but I realized that the. So there's. There's two types of Republican parties. You have the establishment that hate Trump, that have. That have been a part of the system forever. They're like the. The Jeb Bushes, Mitch McConnells. Right. And then you have the Trumpers. So we have. In this state, I love the chairman of the Republican Party for the state, Michael McDonald. I got a great relationship with the guy. Right. He's a Trump guy. But on the county level, you have a lot of anti Trumpers. Okay. And these are people like back in 2020, they were bashing Trump. They hated him. They did everything. They called Trump. You know, the one woman that's running in is as a Republican. She's a state senator. Right. And she called Trumpers vile creatures.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

She actually went and created her own Republican Party and got sued by the GOP and, you know, had to obviously stop calling herself the Republican Party. So what they did was how, in our state, how it works is because of establishment politicians, career politicians, they don't want any outsiders coming in there. And the way they do that is they do something called a closed primary. So what that means is, like, you know, anybody that's a Republican is going to run in a race until June, and in June, you're going to have an election, and only Republicans can vote. Now, the problem is, it's in a primary. How many people actually go out and vote in a primary? No, not that many. They all just wait till November.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

And then the people that can go and vote, they go to vote and they're like, oh, I can't vote. Why can't I vote? Because you're not registered as a Republican. Well, I like Bobby. I'm like, I want to vote for Bobby. And they're like, well, you can't. So what happens is only, you know, that establishment candidate already has a base because they've been in power so much. So when somebody new like me comes in and they're like, hold on. Like, I have new supporters that come in. Like, I have all kinds of people. I have Democrats, Independents, Republicans. They all want to vote for me, but they Couldn't vote for me unless they changed their party designation.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that's annoying.

[Bobby Khan]

So now I said, hold on, we have 63% independence in this state. Majority of voters in this state are independent voters. I said, so everybody can vote for me. So I'd rather just be, you know, nonpartisan, smart. And I would just rather go now. I skipped the primary, save myself a million dollars and go straight to the general election for November. And now everybody can vote for me. So if you're a Republican, an independent, a Democrat, vote for me. I essentially ended my Republican opponents campaign because she has no pathway to victory. She, she was never going to beat the Democrat first off, never would have been. And now with the three way race, it's over. And if you see what I'm doing, you know, I'm reaching 20, over 20 million people a month. My events are jam packed. I mean I'm getting more people in my events than any other person running for office in the state. You see it? You see the videos?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

And the beauty of my events that you see and what I've done is I've managed to build a base. I've built a base like unlike anything else. Because when you walk into my event, you're going to see somebody that's 80 years old, you're going to see a 21 year old, you're going to see people of all races, religions, you're going to see people of all types. Like, you know, in my, like my last event, you had three casino owners.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

You had 15 strippers. You had a, you had an 80

[Interviewer]

year old woman, you had John Cerrazani there.

[Bobby Khan]

What? I had John Cerrazani there. I have everybody. Right. Like, doesn't matter who they are, people are coming out because they're like, you know what your agenda is? A common sense agenda. My agenda is for everybody. It's for the people. It's not a party agenda. It's not something that FOX News gave me or CNN gave me. It's. I put it together. No campaign consultant gave it to me. I put it together based off of what my research was, of what people want. And that's what it is.

[Interviewer]

Like it's work.

[Bobby Khan]

You know what? Zero taxes on gambling winnings, you know, zero taxes for veterans, updating cash reporting laws, you know, taking the land back from the blm, you know, so we have affordable housing and just things that will help everyday people.

[Interviewer]

BLM still has land.

[Bobby Khan]

BLM owns 80% of the land in Nevada.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Bobby Khan]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

Black Lives Matter?

[Bobby Khan]

No. Bureau of Land Management Got it? Yeah. So BLM is the only. Nevada is the only state that the BLM owns majority of the land and.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that's a lot.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, that's why we have a shortage of land. We have all this empty land, but it's all owned by the feds.

[Interviewer]

And they're not building.

[Bobby Khan]

They won't give it to you. You have to fight them to get it. And by the time you get it, it's too expensive.

[Interviewer]

Damn. I also heard a lot of the casinos are owned by BCS now.

[Bobby Khan]

Yep, yep. So like mgm, Caesars now, even like Strat, you know, they sold Gold Entertainment. They sold their land too. Yeah. So what it is, is like for example, the land is owned BY the, the REITs and you know, the business is owned by something else which is run by, you know, know Wall Street. So these guys are in Wall street are making decisions on what happens here

[Interviewer]

and they just care about their money.

[Bobby Khan]

Well, here's a question, right? I asked my, I like, I'm like unlike any other politician, right? I, I'm not a politician. So I go out there and I, I put a question out there that nobody would ever ask that's running for office. And I said, may ask you a question there. Was the town better when it was run by the mob? You should read the comments.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Bobby Khan]

Every comment, thousands of comments came in, right? And everyone said absolutely. It was, wow, wow. Think about it. They. When you ran, when you walked into a casino in the 60s, 70s, 80s, right, you got treated like a king. Doesn't matter if you're dropping $3,000 or $3,000,000. You ate like a king. You got great entertainment. You walked outside, the streets were safe. You didn't have homeless people everywhere. You didn't have the drug uses that you had. You didn't have the break ins that you have today. You don't have the shootings that you had today, right? There was peace because those people, the owners lived here, they worked here, they took care of the casinos. They knew their customer. They knew that Sean likes to drink this drink. They knew that, you know, Joe over there likes to gamble. You know, he likes to play blackjack. They knew what you wanted to eat. They cared about you. They knew that was their neighborhood. So they couldn't have people going out there and shooting up the place. They didn't do that. Now you have a company like Caesars or MGM, they don't care. The guy's getting paid $10 million a year. He don't give a shit. He's gonna be gone in three years, right? Why does he care? And then he's gonna go off to the next thing. And it's basically these big Wall street treats it like, okay, they got an animal, they hunted it, right? Now they're gonna take every little last piece of the meat off the bones. And. And when they're done with the car, they're going to dump it and move on. Look at Atlantic City. Atlantic City used to have 13 casinos, right? 14 casinos at one point. Now you're down to seven. And those casinos are empty. And then the ones that are. That were there, they're just empty buildings. So now the city lost tax revenue, they lost money for infrastructure for their people. That's going to happen here. And that's what no one's talking about. And I'm saying, hold on. I'm not talking about this election. I'm talking about 10 years from now. Because if these casinos don't bring in more revenue and more tourists and we keep losing and hemorrhaging, what do you think happens? All of a sudden, Caesar might say, we're going to shut down the Horseshoe. We're going to shut down Harris. Right? MGM says that we're going to shut down Luxor. We're going to shut down this. Now, each casino, let's just say, have 5,000 employees. Now, think about how many vendors supply those casinos right now. All of a sudden, that's money that. That is taken out of our community. Now, before you know it, the state's going to turn around and say, you know what? Now we're going to have state income tax when we don't have state income tax. So now you're going to have all these empty holes on the strip. It's going to look like Detroit back when the car companies left. It's going to look like Atlantic City when the casinos left.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Is that what you want? You have to wake up and say, why are people not coming here? The politicians should have been on this years ago and said, hold on. All these gaming licenses are popping up everywhere. So if you build it, they will come, but you also have to give them something. We have. We are the only town that has casinos, that has everything set up. We have the best infrastructure. We can host all the events. But why are people not coming? Did you go to the SEMA show this year?

[Interviewer]

I didn't go this year.

[Bobby Khan]

Did you go to any of these shows, CES or anything like that?

[Interviewer]

Not this year.

[Bobby Khan]

Okay, here's what I saw. You walk around that place. Less people there. Okay. There was less Vendors there. You know why? When you're walking through and I just want to. I wanted to sign on for my Wi Fi. $95 a day for WI Fi.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Bobby Khan]

So you have somebody that's running the convention authority that collects a $700,000 a year check and can't figure out how to bring people into town. You clearly are in the wrong business. You gotta figure out a way to bring people to town. Now, what brings people to town?

[Interviewer]

Entertainment.

[Bobby Khan]

Entertainment cost. Okay? People used to come to Vegas. What was Vegas? Vegas was an experience from the moment you landed at the airport. You started drinking, you started gambling. You went out. Nice meals, you ate like kings while you were here. You went to the buffets. For 19 bucks, you could have had all the crab legs you wanted. Then you went to go watch a show and. And the show tickets for 40, $50, right? Then you maybe dropped $3,000 at the tables at night. You didn't give a shit. Then you went to the club and you drank for, you know, cheap drinks, whatever. Not. You partied like a rock star all weekend long, Got on a plane and left. And by the time you got on the plane to go home, you were already planning your next trip. Now, people come to town, they're like, holy shit. I spent $3,000 in a day and I didn't even eat like a king, right? And they're like, I can't do this now. I can't come back again. So now that four trips a year turns into maybe one trip a year, and on top of that, people are leaving with a bad taste because they're like, hold on. Back in the day, I used to get treated like a king. Now I'm getting nickeled and dime. Yeah, think about it. You could be the biggest baller in the world, right? But the moment you feel like you're being robbed, you're done. Yep. People will pay. Like I'm a guy. I will walk in someplace. If you treat me well, I'll. I will overpay because you're treating me well. You remembered me. You remember what I like. I'll just give you a quick story. Like Morton's. Okay.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Like, I've always loved Morton's. And, you know, I don't drink, so the only thing I like to drink is 7Up. But Morton's doesn't carry 7Up, so they would actually store a case of 7Up for me. So every. They knew every Saturday night I'd be there. So every time I went, they'd open up my, you know, my case and make sure that I had a bottle of seven up for me.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

But that's. I'll go in there, I'll tip more. I never asked for pricing. I never did that. Whatever. Because they took care of me. People miss that nowadays. You're a high roller. You walk in there and they want to nickel and dime you on every little thing. You're like, why? Why would I come here? I can go someplace else. Casinos are popping up everywhere.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

You got to give them a reason to come here. And the problem is the people that are running these casinos, they've lost all touch with reality. They treat everybody like you're a Walmart customer. You have to understand hospitality. There's emotion involved to it. You took the emotion out of it. You're so cold. On top of that, you're not. You're giving them. Providing them a subpar experience. You walk through these casinos, you're like, first off, how about we start with shampooing these carpets and maybe replacing the carpets? Right.

[Interviewer]

They smell like cigarettes.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, well, forget the cigarette part. Clean the place. You walk into a bathroom, you're like, this is disgusting. Yeah, the rooms are disgusting. You go into the rooms and you're like, you want to nickel and dime me $15 for a bottle of this, $20 for a bottle of that. And if I even touch it, I have a $15 restocking fee, motion sensor. You're going to charge me $25 for utensils? How am I supposed to eat it with my hands? So when you start doing that, you're pissing off people. And the moment you start getting a bad rap, it's over. You know? You need to find a way to turn that around.

[Interviewer]

We need to bring Steve Wynn back.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, we need Steve Wynn's, but we need independent operators. We need to see. The Gaming Commission should have never allowed MGM and Caesars to get so big. Yeah, you should never be able to own more than two casinos on the Strip.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, because they got like seven each, right?

[Bobby Khan]

Are you kidding me? They got. Look, think about. Just do the math. Mgm, right? Mandalay Bay, Luxor, Excalibur, mgm. New York, New York, Circus Circus. Oh, no, it's not Circus Circuit. You have park. Mgm, right? You have Bellagio, right next door. You have All Cosmopolitan. They got 13 casinos.

[Interviewer]

Jeez, that's crazy.

[Bobby Khan]

Yep. Then they also got T Mobile Arena.

[Interviewer]

Wow, I didn't know that. Actually, they own T Mobile.

[Bobby Khan]

They're a part of it.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Nuts, man. They're too big now, right?

[Bobby Khan]

They're too big. So now, all of a sudden, they control everything. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Now with online gambling becoming legal, Vegas is going to have to step it up.

[Bobby Khan]

Well, Vegas is going to figure out they have to get their heads out of their ass, because if they don't, the next generation is not going to tolerate it. Okay. They're like, you know what? I'll just gamble online.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

I'll do something else.

[Interviewer]

So we might end up like Atlantic City if we don't.

[Bobby Khan]

Exactly. That's why I'm out there, you know, yelling and screaming every day. I'm like, listen, the writing's on the wall. If you don't fix this, we're going to end up like Atlantic City. We're going to have holes in that skyline.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I live here. Like, I'm a local. I don't really eat on the Strip.

[Bobby Khan]

Nobody. So many people don't go to because they're like, hold on, I got to pay $30 for parking.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Or on the weekend, if you want a valet, it's anywhere from 40 to 120 to a vet.

[Interviewer]

Parking. Yeah. And food's double the price.

[Bobby Khan]

Food's double the price. Used to be able to go into a casino and have a nice meal. And it would be under a hundred dollars.

[Interviewer]

I wish.

[Bobby Khan]

Not anymore. You go with two people, it's a few hundred bucks.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

The moment you get there, you're gonna pay for parking. Because at the end of the day, some casinos will give you, like, maybe three hours, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

Okay. But by the time you go into a casino and you sit down, you order your food and this and that, you're rushing out the door, you're three hours up. So now you're paying for parking. Now you're paying for all the air. Like, I went to back in November. It's gonna be the last time I ever go there. I went to Paris, all right? I hadn't been there in a long time, and it was my wife's birthday. So we go upstairs to the restaurant. It's like the Eiffel Tower restaurant, right? Okay. Great view. They charge you to sit next to the window.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

So that's the first thing, Right. Then they charge you. So, you know, I order the food, and I'm asking the. Wait. I'm like, hey, are you gonna bring any bread? Oh, sir, if you want bread, that's $8 you're charging me for bread? Bread is complimentary always. Right? So, yeah, I said, bring me some bread. They bring me bread. You know what? They brought me one piece of sourdough.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

I don't even like sourdough, but they brought me one piece of sourdough for $8. So then they bring the steak out and they bring nothing, like, no sauce, nothing like that. I said, can I get some bearnaise sauce? Right, sure. It's $8. I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? You're charging me for sauce? Meanwhile, you go to Oscars down at the plaza. They'll bring you out all the sauces. They bring you out all the bread that you want. Like, they're independently owned and operated. Their people treat you well. They treat you like the way it should be. Right. They're not nickel and diming you for everything. So you're like, I'm never going to go back there again. But I'm going to go to Oscars.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Bobby Khan]

Now go to Barry's. Yeah, Barry's Oscars. You're going to go places like that. And that's what people, you don't realize. Why are those places busy? Why are those people just keep going back there? Because people want that. I don't give a shit what year it is. People still want to be treated well. Yep. People still want respect and they want their food to be good. The problem is, like, you walk through Caesars, what do you see? All celebrity chefs. But do you ever see any of them?

[Interviewer]

They're not there.

[Bobby Khan]

Okay, what are. What's that? Gordon Ramsay. He's not cooking in the kitchen.

[Interviewer]

No.

[Bobby Khan]

You got the local staff cooking. So why are we going there? Paying for Gordon Ramsay's prices when Gordon Ramsay's not cooking. Cuz he only shows up twice a year to do a photo op. Yep.

[Interviewer]

Those celebrity restaurants rarely work out. I actually just learned from the Wynn CEO, he came on the show and he said the wind didn't do any celebrity restaurants.

[Bobby Khan]

They wanted to make sure that was my next thing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

They did it right. Steve Witt knew, because you got to do it where you actually have the chef there. Yep.

[Interviewer]

That was a requirement for them.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

The chef were to open a restaurant

[Bobby Khan]

there, he had to live in. You have to live there because otherwise you're not going to get the same quality. Because think about it, when your parents aren't home, it's a party. Yeah, Same thing. The guy that, whose name's on a, you know, master, he's not there. So do whatever. It's all of a sudden now all the food's coming from Cisco. And it's the same stuff that you're going to get a, you know, Hell's Kitchen that you're going to get at this restaurant or that restaurant, it's the same. It tastes the same. No matter what restaurant you walk into at Caesars, all the food's the same.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy. Yeah. It's lost that, like, authentic flavor.

[Bobby Khan]

There's nothing authentic. Because, you know, like, think about it. When your mom cooks something, it was like, oh, you know, I like mom's lasagna. Right. Because your mom's lasagna is different. But if you're just. It's an assembly line. It's going to be the same no matter where you go.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Bobby Khan]

And that's what it is.

[Interviewer]

Well, thanks for speaking up about this, because not a lot of people are brave enough.

[Bobby Khan]

Well, listen, I fought the federal government twice in my lifetime. I can fight a bunch of casino owners.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah. That's not as big of a challenge, I guess, when you put it that way.

[Bobby Khan]

No, when you're facing 40 years in prison. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Facing 40.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. First time around, I was facing 40 years in prison.

[Interviewer]

What'd you get it down to?

[Bobby Khan]

I beat it the first time.

[Interviewer]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. I walked away.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. So I got.

[Interviewer]

Second time.

[Bobby Khan]

I got you second time. I fought it for 10 years. 10 years. I fought it. 10 years. 10 years. It fought me to fight. It bled you dry. Yeah. Of course they did, right? Millions of dollars on legal destroys you. It destroys your reputation. It destroys everything. And most people can't handle it. No. 10 years.

[Interviewer]

Hell, no.

[Bobby Khan]

10 years of fighting and constantly having prison over your head will break people mentally and physically. Some people end up committing suicide, and people get divorced. Their families break up. They go to drinking. They could do all kinds of stuff, and they just unravel. Because when you're dealing with the federal government every day, it's something. Their job is to make sure that they destroy your life as much as they can. Because for them, it's a game. It's not about laws. It's not about right or wrong. It's somebody that. Basically, you're a target and you're another notch on their belt. And they need to make sure that they get that headline that you went to prison. So they will do anything in their power, even if that means bending the rules. They will bend it to make sure. Like, I made a. I did a story yesterday on my Instagram page. I said while I was fighting this, Right. The second case, after doing eight months in jail, they've released me on bail. And I was on bail for 32 months. And when I went on bail, I was. If I Had to do anything. I had to get permission, right? So if I wanted to go to the grocery store, I had to tell them 10 days in advance. Yes, I wanted to go to the grocery store. I have to go to Sam's Club. And I'm gonna. You know, I'll be there for two hours, and it's gonna take me half hour to get there. It's gonna take me a half hour to come back, right? So now, like, basically, I have to make sure that nothing goes wrong. Like, you can't ever get in an accident or have a flat tire, none of that stuff. So I told my lawyer, I want to go see my son's grave. You know, my son passed away in 2013, exactly 13 years ago. Today is his anniversary, right? And I said, I'd like to go see. See his grave. Every time I go to grocery store, I like to go visit the grave. The prosecutor told my lawyer, tell your client he is property of the federal government and that it's not important for him to go see his son's grave.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Bobby Khan]

And that was that day. I said, if these fucking people think that I'm going to be one of 80 million Americans that's just going to go and hide in the shadows, they fucked him, got the wrong guy. I'm going to go out and fight.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that is nuts.

[Bobby Khan]

You're telling me that I'm property of the federal government? Let me tell you something. I'm not anybody's property. I'm my own man.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, but they could get away with talking to most people that way.

[Bobby Khan]

That's it. Most people don't have the balls to stand up and fight.

[Interviewer]

97% conviction rate, right?

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah, 97%.

[Interviewer]

So when you're convicting like that, you could talk that way, I guess.

[Bobby Khan]

Yeah. Because why do they. How do they convict people? They arrest you, they seize your assets, they tell you you're facing 20 years in prison if you don't plead guilty. They're going to go after your wife, too. They're going to go after your friends, too. And then you're like, fuck it, I can't deal with this. Put you in a felon, then they put you in jail. And you're sitting in this jail for 22 hours a day in a cell, just. You've never been in trouble, all of a sudden now you're like, fuck, just get me the fuck out of here. Get me anything to go to prison.

[Interviewer]

And.

[Bobby Khan]

And you do, and, like, you'll just sign. Sign on the dotted line.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Khan]

And that's how they crush you.

[Interviewer]

They break you.

[Bobby Khan]

They break you.

[Interviewer]

So they put you in there for eight months. Did that break you?

[Bobby Khan]

I was in there for 21 hours a day. And I. I sat there. This was after fighting them for five years previously.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God. And you still didn't get broken from that? No.

[Bobby Khan]

Listen, I'm. I'm built differently, clearly. Yep. I'm built differently.

[Interviewer]

I love that, man. Well, I hope you win, man. I'll be rooting for you. Where can people support you, find you and all that.

[Bobby Khan]

Go to my Instagram page, real Bobby Khan. And they can go to my website, Bobby Khan for Congress.com. and every Thursday night I have an event. It's called Bobby After Dark. And also you'll see me in the streets. I'm everywhere.

[Interviewer]

Check them out, guys. Check out the link below. Peace.

[Bobby Khan]

Thank you, guys.

[Interviewer]

Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear it. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.