
What happens when the internet becomes too chaotic to tell what is real anymore? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Luke Rudkowski to discuss surveillance technology, media manipulation, AI, government trust, online distractions, Epstein, 9/11 questions, UFO disclosure, drone warfare, self-sufficiency, and the mental toll of living in a nonstop information war. Luke argues that modern media is designed to overwhelm people with chaos, fear, outrage, and distraction while bigger systems of control are built in the background. From smart cars and facial scanners to AI slop, censorship, psychological operations, and digital surveillance, this conversation breaks down why so many people feel like reality is becoming harder to understand. They also discuss why trust in institutions is collapsing, how online platforms shape public perception, why local community matters more than ever, and how people can stay grounded in a world built to keep them anxious, d...
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All right, guys, we got Luke Back on the show. I think it's your third or fourth time now.
Luke Rudkowski
I think so.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, man.
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We always have fun together, man. How you been since I've seen you?
Luke Rudkowski
Super busy. This media landscape, I think, is more wild than it ever has been. It's very difficult trying to even understand what's the truth and what's not anymore. I think we're. We're living in this like, controlled, crazy matrix paradigm where they just throw as much information out there trying to. Just to muddy the waters. So we're all left discussing all these little issues as the big issues get out there and get done.
Co-host / Interviewer
That is well said, man. Yeah, I feel like there's just non stop distractions.
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Luke Rudkowski
And fighting and ego and drama and just like people just trying to attack and destroy each other. It's. It's a. It's such a wild landscape. Because I've been in independent media for like 21 years now. It's definitely more chaotic than it ever has been.
Co-host / Interviewer
It feels that way. I've only been in it three years, but I feel like right now there's so much infighting, so much division, so much distraction. I mean, with the shooting the other day, I just don't know what to believe in exact.
Luke Rudkowski
There's so much fake news and so much AI like alterations and so many, like, deep fakes out there. I just did a full deep dive on this just a couple hours ago on my main, like, YouTube channel. And it's like, okay, now let's try to understand what happened here. And it's difficult because you got one side talking about a ballroom in like a coordinated, organized way, and another side talking about all these other like, distraction issues that have all these, like, hypotheticals in there. And it's like, okay, what actually happened here? Can we get to the core issue? And I think the core issue out of that conversation should be the most productive conversation is how do we deradicalize people? Because there are a bunch of violent, radicalized individuals that were radicalized specifically because of the AI algorithms, but most importantly, the. The algorithms that were impacted by the CIA and the FBI during the Biden administration that radicalized a whole bunch of people at default.
Co-host / Interviewer
Right.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, it's not just left wingers, but obviously they have been the more most kind of prolific ones that have been excusing things like Luigi Mangioni. And there are a lot of individuals, especially after what happened to Charlie Kirk that celebrated what happened to Charlie, which was just sick and disgusting. Right. And I think there's a loss of Empathy, a loss of care and consideration, that is really tragic. And the overall kind of perspective is like, man, things are really dark and we're seeing the worst of the worst of it. And I think we're kind of being, you know, part of my French, but mind effed in a very negative way.
Co-host / Interviewer
MKultrad to the max.
Luke Rudkowski
Yes. Trauma based mind control, which I think is more persistent than ever, especially with how people now engage with each other online. The, the kind of Victoria, the hatred, the kind of lack of just even consideration for another human being, all of that's out the window. And I'm like, hey, can we, can we get back to the core issues here and not discuss fake AI photos or fake AI altered videos?
Co-host / Interviewer
Well, social media is so powerful. They're in bed with government. Oh yeah. Companies are in bed with the government. So with that, you can really control the masses. I feel like.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly. Now we have to not only wonder and consider about the mass impact that the FBI and the CIA had because they were literally the ones deciding who gets to have a voice, who doesn't have to be able to speak and say whatever they want to. You talked about the Wuhan laboratory, you got blocked, you got censored, you talked about natural immunity, you talked about vitamin D, you got debanked in some instances. But now there's a far superior type of intelligence out there that the government is becoming more and more dependent on that is making long term type of predictive programming decisions that I really kind of am trying to wrap my hand, my head around because of, because of. I'm just trying to see the long term trends of where is this going and where it's going. It's not good.
Co-host / Interviewer
Mass surveillance and digital IDs and.
Luke Rudkowski
Oh yeah, I mean, they're, they're passing a bill that Thomas Massie is fighting against right now that will allow surveillance and kill switches in every single car in America.
Co-host / Interviewer
They already passed it, right?
Luke Rudkowski
They passed it. And there's only a few members of Congress.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Anna stood up and Anna Paulina Luna, Thomas Massey and a few others came out and said, this is crazy.
Co-host / Interviewer
Like 2027. Yeah, yeah. Could you explain it for people that don't know?
Luke Rudkowski
No. They're going to federally mandate facial scanners that will be able to read your expressions. Ford also is putting out patents where they could use sound wave systems to interpret what you're saying. So in, in a scenario where you're dealing with an emergency situation, you're injured, you need to drive to a hospital, you had something happen to you. If you're driving erratic, they have stops in the car that will stop you from driving on the road, which is very Orwellian, very terrifying. You know, for many years now, I've been warning about this kind of prison planet being built all around us. I think it's built. It just isn't fully utilized yet. But we're making it more and more of a prison every single day. And I think it's going to be up to now an AI or a bureaucrat in charge of the AI that's going to decide, okay, we're going to stop this portion of a population from even believing or expressing or thinking a certain idea.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Which is, which is terrifying because you could see the way that it's kind of being implemented now with pure chaos, order out of chaos, where it's just total nonsense, total insanity, total crazy laziness, just being regurgitated back to us over and over and over again to kind of psyop us into this kind of fear state. And I think fear is the biggest killer here. And that's been my approach from the very beginning of this. I started off, of course, after 2001 in New York City, going up against a lot of the kind of crazy national security state apparatuses that were utilized against the American public. And they used fear as a way to justify them. But I think now a lot of us, especially people who are constantly online, they are dealing with anxiety and fear more than they ever have before. And I think that's deliberate. Right. And I think that's being done in a way where it's really nefarious, and it's probably far more nefarious than we can even conceptualize now. I remember even, I think it was like 15 years ago talking about how Facebook was running studies about how they could manipulate people's emotions through the algorithm, through what they were sharing in the social media feed. And they were saying, oh, could we do rage? Could we do fear? Could we do happiness? Could we do content? And of course, I think right now, most people consuming media right now are being induced in a fear state, in a trauma state. Now, some people say that's because of a natural phenomenon where our kind of survival mechanism is poised towards always looking at the biggest threat or the biggest type of drama out there. Like, women love their drama, they love their murder, you know, content. Yeah, I'm trying to be family friendly here for all the algorithms, because the algorithms are watching right now. And I'm like self censoring myself not to say certain words because I understand if I say certain words, and this is already such a different paradox that I'm in that I don't want to be in. I just want to have the ability to say whatever I want to say. But now I'm already not saying things like, you know, the F word or the adult content word. That's crazy, because I understand that the algorithms will pick it up right now and then automatically debuce the content because you're talking about stuff that are not advertiser quote friendly.
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Luke Rudkowski
But then it gets far beyond that. It's not just, you know, advertisers that are in power here. It's also the government. Right. If you look at a lot of the funding and start of a lot of these huge social media tech companies, it's all surrounded with in Q Tel, which is essentially the CIA venture capitalist firm that has heavily invested in all of them. Tulsi Gabbard right now was working on taking that kind of investment firm and making it not as decentralized because it's essentially the CIA being able to do whatever they want. She wants to centralize it. So there's more accountability over it right now. And I think that's one of the most kind of important battles out there. But it's. But. But some people argue that battle is already lost.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. I mean, when you look at all the biggest companies in America, there's some sort of government or investment or involvement. Exactly.
Luke Rudkowski
And. And not just investment or involvement, but tax incentives, technological information sharing. If you look at Google Maps, it was created essentially under military programs. Yes, exactly. So when. When you look at all of these type of initiatives, the winners and losers are kind of predetermined by the people who are willing to do the most for the intel agencies and all these other larger kind of consortium of power that are out there that are using and wielding these tools for their own personal benefit.
Co-host / Interviewer
Crazy, right? Yeah. Even Elon.
Luke Rudkowski
You think Elon's an interesting character. He's been very quiet lately, which is
Co-host / Interviewer
a little weird, right? Yeah, it's a little suspicious all the time.
Luke Rudkowski
All the time. He was very active. He was very engaged. I mean, obviously he has a lot of different projects that are ongoing.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
But he always was very vocal about what was going on in this world. He's not very vocal now. And when we look at Twitter and the conversation and that especially Bibi Netanyahu had a couple months ago, where he specifically says we have to rein in the algorithms, we have to call Elon and make sure that they talk to Elon, the Algorithm on Twitter just feels very weird. It feels very. Just kind of astroturfed.
Co-host / Interviewer
It feels a little more censored than a couple of years ago.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly. And this is the type of, like, censorship that happens that we don't really kind of notice, because when they debanked and deleted people, we noticed, and it was awful and it was horrible. But now what you could do is you just release a whole bunch of AI slop or a whole bunch of, like, distractions and a whole bunch of nonsense and a whole bunch of drama and no, no one pays attention to the key core issues anymore. And you don't need to deplatform people. You just distract them with all this nonsense.
Co-host / Interviewer
AI bot farms.
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They can prop up any figure they
Luke Rudkowski
want these days, or argum or conversation or boogeyman. Right. Or person that they just want to, like, destroy and humiliate. And again, we're all imperfect. We all have our, you know, problems and inconsistencies here. But I really do believe that. I wish that. That there was a better way to kind of emphasize the kind of information state that we're in, because I think we're really in a horrible one.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, it's hard because even if you use AI to verify, AI could be biased.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly. And AI sometimes just gives you the answer that they think that it thinks you want.
Co-host / Interviewer
That's why I worry about these AIs in the future if they become totally biased.
Luke Rudkowski
But that's. That's the AI that we have.
Co-host / Interviewer
Right.
Luke Rudkowski
But the AI that the military has is more advanced.
Co-host / Interviewer
Oh, really?
Luke Rudkowski
And they're becoming more dependent on them for military actions. Especially with the military campaign that we just had with Iran. The government even admitted, yeah, we're using AI to help with targeting. We're using AI to help determine who lives, who dies. Palantir was talking about this as well with their software that they already utilized in places like Gaza. So when we look at the kind of broad spectrum of all of this, I think the level of manipulation is far more sophisticated for people to even comprehend and understand. All I'm. All I'm seeing is just chaos and negative emotions and anxiety and fear and this constant state of just information wars that have really reached its kind of epitome that is breeding on a whole bunch of mental illness.
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Yeah, right.
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Luke Rudkowski
N People's mental health declined significantly. That's why I'm always, you know, a big fan of like, meditation, praying, taking care of yourself, mental health. And I think, you know, those messages sadly get lost. But I think it's a message that I think we need to hear. And also, you know, when we look at MK Ultra, I think there's a lot of different parallels to people's media ecosystems.
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Luke Rudkowski
MK Ultra worked with trauma, specifically. I think we're going through a mass trauma hypnosis, and I think it's spurring people on to commit a lot of these violent acts that they normally wouldn't. And I think that kind of connects with a lot of the violence that we have seen predominantly from the left that have attacked people on the right and see them as some kind of existential threat because they've been kind of programmed and bred to believe that most of their problems, all of the inequalities in this world, are predominantly because of people on the right who want to have a family and want to have children as part of their larger ethos. And people see that as their number one enemy, or the white man who's the number one enemy in all the kind of Netflix TV series and all the TV commercials and all the movies. There's a lot of predictive programming there as well. Do you feel like the whole left
Co-host / Interviewer
verse, right thing is kind of overplayed, though? Do you feel like it's orchestrated in a certain way?
Luke Rudkowski
I. I definitely think it's orchestrated. I think it's being orchestrated in a way where it's becoming real.
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Luke Rudkowski
So a couple years ago, you would kind of sit down, someone from the left and right, and they could have an argument and they could have a conversation and they could shake hands and they could have a beer and they could agree with each other, right?
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We.
Luke Rudkowski
You can't have that now. You, you kind of worry, like, is this person going to be violent? Is this person crazy? Is this person insane? Is this person going to, like, secretly record me now?
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, it's, it's, it's.
Luke Rudkowski
It's an ethos of, like, we can't get along with each other. And it keeps kind of being perpetuated and keep. And it keeps building and it keeps being weaponized in a way where people are fighting with each other that have more in common.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Rather than actually looking at, like, the
Co-host / Interviewer
true source of their problems, 100%, who's actually pulling the strings here.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. And the. The real people that are taking advantage of the system and using government for their behalf. And I, I really do believe that, you know, if we got rid of a lot of the emotions, a lot of the fear, and we sat people down from the left and right, they probably have very similar problems. They probably have very similar common causes that they would agree with.
Co-host / Interviewer
100.
Luke Rudkowski
But it is that fear state, it is that, like, trauma over and over again that reduces our ability to have a conversation with each other.
Co-host / Interviewer
I mean, even we know about the whole model of fear, but with the missing scientists, it's even affecting me, bro. To be honest. Like, it's. It's scary. Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
I'm not suicidal.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. Same.
Luke Rudkowski
All right. I love my life. I love taking care of myself. I love my animals. I love my little farm animals. I love my dog.
Co-host / Interviewer
Everyone passed or disappeared said this too. They're not suicidal. And then.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, some of them did on. On different type of timelines. Right. I know David Wilcox said that in 2022. And I've talked to, you know, people who have known him. I've seen people who have varying accounts. Some people are saying he was dealing with a lot of stress, a lot of that, and was dealing with mental health issues. Other people are saying he would never do this. It's very hard to know who to believe here, but it's something that I think should be humanized. We should put a better kind of consideration on the human life and how to prevent this from happening. If we're going to buy the official version of event. Now, I know the local police department has been trying to be transparent. His family has released a statement. But there's still this kind of other kind of existential circumstance of so many scientists going missing and passing away throughout the years.
Co-host / Interviewer
14, right?
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. And there's also Chinese scientists, nine Chinese scientists that are also missing. Whether they're correlated or not, it is still something that's a little suspicious that I think is worth investigating, looking into. Not all of them are going to be obviously conspiracies, but we're living in
Co-host / Interviewer
a world where
Luke Rudkowski
doubt and conspiracies are more prevalent than ever, predominantly because of how the government hasn't been transparent yeah.
Co-host / Interviewer
We got scientists disappearing. We got podcasters fleeing the country. It's a crazy time right now. Very crazy time.
Luke Rudkowski
It's, it's, it's a wild time to be alive.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
All right. It feels like the end of the world is going to happen at any moment and at any time. But I think that's also meant to be done in a predictive way. Right. I think once you kind of get away from this kind of online Internet environment and you go out there and you go to the beach or you take a walk in nature, then you got to worry about those, like, alpha gale ticks that make you allergic to me. Then you have to worry about the, like, water bacteria. And it's like, man, I just, I, I just wish we could, for a second, take up. I, I, you know, if I was gonna espouse some advice, it would be that everyone take a break from the Internet for a week or two weeks.
Co-host / Interviewer
Dopamine detox.
Luke Rudkowski
Yes. And everyone's dopamines are fried, right, because they keep getting that, like, satisfaction. But the more that they're on it, it just keeps getting drained and drained and drained and drained. And a lot of people, especially relationship coaches, have even talked about if you want to fall in love, get off the phone, go for a walk, clean your mind, then go on your date, then you're more likely to fall in love than constantly just having your dopamine ripped away from you through these, like, gamified casino rigged algorithms that are meant to keep you active and engaged and addicted to these, like, platforms that essentially rob you of your pure happiness and joy.
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That's interesting, man. A lot of people commented on your shirt last night, by the way.
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Luke Rudkowski
Oh, that last night was the Unvax. Yeah. That's your go to $7,500.
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Go borrow whenever you wear that one.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, we created it during COVID Right. And that's when they were kind of very forceful and very pushy when it came to this procedure. I decided to clap back culturally as best as I can by laughing and making jokes. Right. And it's, and it's, and it's a good conversation starter, and it's a good way to meet local people. Right. And that's why, that's why I have my supplements, because I want people to be healthy. I want people. And I want to have an excuse on my show to talk about, like, sleep and stress anxiety, because there's no other way to really talk about it, because the algorithms deboost you automatically if you do.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
So I Do my like, this is what everyone's talking about here. Let's talk about health here, Get a t shirt, meet other people, start to get to know as many people as you can, start to build relationships. Because we're connected more than ever, but we're also isolated more than ever.
Co-host / Interviewer
What I've realized is community is very important as I get older.
Luke Rudkowski
Extremely vocal. If you look at a lot of the communities that live past 100 years, vast majority of them, if not all of them, have a good community, have a good network of individuals that are there for each other. And it's that kind of feeling of belonging, having a community that has been ripped away from us. And I think it's been deliberately ripped away from us by this kind of globalist prison planet type of agenda that's meant to isolate us, that's meant to mind f us in a way where we don't have good cohesive relationships, that we don't make families, that we don't make children, that we don't make the best out of life, that we've been given this incredible gift with and that we just constantly doom scroll or go on and use adult content to satiate our basic human needs that are being deprived of from us with this kind of psychological operation that's being run against us.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. How long do you think we've been in this prison planet, so to speak?
Luke Rudkowski
I mean, there's been different types of stages that we're in. I think we're in the most serious stages of them all. And I think it's only going to escalate from here. So Obviously in the 1990s we were a lot freer. Yeah, we were, we were a lot more prosperous. Your dollar would go a long way and you would be able to have a very incredible life that now the average family can't afford, that they can't have.
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Luke Rudkowski
And it's, it's, it's really just kind of a slow boiling right to the point where a lot of people are going to run towards those pods because they're going to be programmed to go into those pods and they're going to love every second of it. And that's the really kind of terrifying aspect of all of this. It's like, hey, take a break from the Internet, take a break from the drama, take a break from everything and start to realize the relationships you have, the people you meet, a lot of them are just fried. A lot of them don't have the capabilities to even love right or love themselves. And that to me is the kind of more terrifying aspect of it. But once you meet someone and have that human interaction, have that eye contact with them, there's a little bit of this life force being kind of brought back into you. It depends who. Because there's a lot of like people stuck in negative thought loops as well. But being able to find your crib. This is where. Why I wear a lot of provocative T shirts. Because it like it filters out people.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Who are not as susceptible. Yeah. Not as susceptible to the Matrix as. And that is bought into the Matrix as. Not as big as batteries to the Matrix. And it's great to meet those people. It's great to be friends with those people. It's great to do exchanges on my little farm with those people. It's great to tactically train with those people. And it's those type of moments that keep me going and allow me to be where I'm at right now.
Co-host / Interviewer
I'm the same way. I want to be around people that can form their own opinions. Exactly.
Luke Rudkowski
And think critically.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. That's everything for me. If you're just reading headlines and believing it, like, I don't know, dude, it just turns me off if you think
Luke Rudkowski
that way or watching like an AI video and then just kind of going on. On that. You know, there's been a lot of like AI fake news, especially this morning with people putting like fake IDF logos on this.
Co-host / Interviewer
Oh, I saw that. That was a fake logo.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, that was fake logo that people put on there and everyone's sharing it.
Co-host / Interviewer
That went viral.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. There's a fake AI surveillance footage that shows him having a sign before going into the White House Correspondent's dinner. That was fake, that was altered, that AI just made. And people are like, look, he had a sign that disappeared. It's fake footage. It never happened. And I'm like, it's a fake video that people are sharing.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Now, you know, granted, there could be some legitimate questions about left wing violence. What Dr. People to commit violence that I think are worth having. But we're not having that. And we're even having more distractions from the right that in unison is all coming out and saying, ballroom, Ballroom, Ballroom.
Co-host / Interviewer
That was weird.
Luke Rudkowski
And I'm like, okay, like let's, let's, let's deal with the heart of this issue. Let's try to figure out why people are radicalized. Let's try to de. Radicalize them. Let's try to have an honest conversation. Let's stop censoring conversations. Let's really kind of have at it. And have a meeting where we could actually see each other face to face, eye to eye. And of course I think there's very powerful people that don't want that to happen.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, but that was so strange to me when like 15 to 20 accounts tweeted, let's get this ballroom done now because Trump got now.
Luke Rudkowski
Granted, some people are Trump sycophants and they love Trump and they're going to say whatever Trump says and they're just going to repeat it. But there's also influencer campaigns. There's also people in like huge groups being like, okay, this is the talking point, let's get it out there. And at this point I think the bigger conversation is let's try to de radicalize people and let's try to stop violence in our political sphere. I think that's the most important issue right now, especially after what happened to Charlie Kirk, especially with the kind of phenomenon with Luigi Mangioni that's being normalized as well.
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I mean Riley got assaulted child to him. You've had your, your battles with certain groups. It's, it's pretty crazy right now to do investigative work.
Luke Rudkowski
Not just that, but you know, anytime you kind of go out there and you become a threat against what would
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Luke Rudkowski
Power structure. Yeah, they always attack you in many different ways, whether it's financial, whether it's debosting you in the algorithm, whether it's just personal attacks, when there's just drama. I've stayed out of it as much as I can. I had beefs with, like, major big people here.
Co-host / Interviewer
You were calling out 9, 11 early.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
Co-host / Interviewer
So from.
Luke Rudkowski
From the very beginning. And then I remember reading about the kind of propaganda book that Cass Sunstein, a very important kind of bureaucrat. He was Obama's information czar. He wrote the blueprint on disinformation. Really? And I confronted him on this issue. He denied writing his own publication as he literally talked about how truth groups needed to be infiltrated by crazy people that make their ideas seem insane. Insane to the general public. And I think that's happening on a large scale right now where ideas are being deconstructed not from a steel man point of view, but from a crazy, deranged lunatic point of view that totally obfuscates a real conversation from ever happening. Because we're off in looney Tune, Looney Tune land. And he literally wrote the book talking about 911 truth. Now, 911 truth was specifically a lot of family members, rescue workers, survivors, concerned citizens, people that were impacted by 911 coming together and saying, hey, we need a proper investigation. We need to look into why the Jeddah consulate, under the orders of the CIA, allowed these guys in. We need to look into why they were staying with FBI informants. We need to look into all these inconsistencies in the insider trading that was happening. I have a theory that it could even be potentially connected to Epstein as well.
Co-host / Interviewer
Wow.
Luke Rudkowski
I'll talk about that in just a second here. But all these family members, all these rescue workers came out, and the thing that was most talked about were all these theories. And I always said, stay away from the theories. We have legitimate questions. The government should answer these questions. We never got to that stage because the whole conversation was just totally destroyed by the theories, not just the theories. I'm okay with theories. I'm okay if you're doing it in good faith. But there were. There was a lot of pointed, like, attacks. There was pointed attacks against me. I had a significant loss in my life. I had people literally coming out and, like, just trying to, like, antagonize me and get me to, like, go crazy by specifically pinpointing weird stuff that no one else kind of knew.
Co-host / Interviewer
Wow.
Luke Rudkowski
There's specific threats, like phone calls through,
Co-host / Interviewer
like, o' clock in the morning, families. Who was going after you?
Luke Rudkowski
Random people.
Co-host / Interviewer
Really?
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, random people. I would. I was out there at ground zero every single Saturday.
Co-host / Interviewer
Dude.
Luke Rudkowski
You weren't failing all that for years. Talking to people. Right? Talking to the people that were impacted by this and representing a larger group, especially the 911 first responders. But Cass Sunstein wrote about this specific group saying, we can't allow this group to gain momentum. We have to destroy this group by spreading a lot of wild theories about what we think actually happened. The crazier the theory, the more we get away from actually having, you know, the legitimate conversations that a lot of the people wanted to have after 9 11.
Co-host / Interviewer
And it worked for about 25, 30 years.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, well, it did in a way, but a lot of people still have a lot of serious questions. And I think think that was the kind of starting point of the real prison planet that was being built all around us.
Co-host / Interviewer
9 11. Yeah, because some people say JFK.
Luke Rudkowski
JFK is Ron Paul says. I remember talking to Ron Paul. And Ron Paul says, that's when the coup d' etat happened, when JFK was assassinated.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, I've heard that a lot.
Luke Rudkowski
But it definitely was. Was ramped up. The purchasing power of the dollar was destroyed. We had the 2008 housing market crash. We had trains missing from the pentagon. We had all these foreign wars. We had the refugee crisis that was started there. We had the destruction of the American reputation worldwide, especially with torture, enhanced interrogation.
Co-host / Interviewer
Shout out to John kiriakou.
Luke Rudkowski
But you know, more specifically, just back to that kind of Epstein point that I wanted to make here. The government did an awful job releasing a lot of the documents, but there's a specific section of the documents around 911 that were never released. So if you look at the kind of time codes and the documents that were released, a lot of the documents around 911 weren't released at all. Which leads to speculation that could potentially point to insider trading that was happening. Because as we know, before 911 happened, there was very suspicious put options being put on the major airlines. There was also a lot of suspicious insurance policies being put. And people profited off of 911 billion by being able to predict in the stock market what would happen. And those people placed Those bets before 911 and those weren't that large.
Co-host / Interviewer
Isn't it public or not?
Luke Rudkowski
This wasn't public.
Co-host / Interviewer
Oh, really? So you can make a put that large and no one knows who it is?
Luke Rudkowski
We still don't know.
Co-host / Interviewer
Right.
Luke Rudkowski
And I think. I think there could be a potential correlation with some of these Epstein files that have gone missing. Epstein was very connected to a lot of very powerful people. He was a part of the trilateral commission. He was connected to the rothschilds, the rockefellers, and a lot of big powerful power brokers that were essentially running the show after 9 11.
Co-host / Interviewer
So there's a link there.
Luke Rudkowski
I think it's worth investigating and I think it's one of the reasons why we haven't gotten all of the documents. Some people point to Howard Lutnick potentially being connected here. He of course, was at Cantor Fitzgerald. He lost a lot of people that day. And some people are saying there could have been some insider trading there, who knows? But I think there's a big potential there and if discovered, it would piss a lot of people off.
Co-host / Interviewer
You think they'll ever release the rest of the Epstein files?
Luke Rudkowski
That's a very hard question to kind of figure out. I. I need to really think about it because personally, I want all the files out.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Except for of course, the obvious abuse. I don't want to see any of that. There should be like independent investigators that are able to verify and and get justice surrounding the children that were specifically hurt there. That information shouldn't get out there to the general public. But this DOJ literally released some of that information accidentally. I think this whole thing has been an outright debacle and it kind of led to this major significant downfall and trust of government. And I think there's two things that really came out of this, this Epstein debacle. One is a total lack of trust. There's no way people, after seeing the way that it was handled, will ever trust the government. That lack of trust and accountability in institutions is going to be significant. And it's playing into why nothing's believed anymore. Like we had the White House correspondent shooting, no one believes.
Co-host / Interviewer
No one.
Luke Rudkowski
Right. You go online, it's like, I don't care.
Co-host / Interviewer
I don't believe that.
Luke Rudkowski
It's because of, it's because of this kind of doomer black pill sentiment that a lot of people have been induced into and some people say rightfully so because we've been lied to by the government. Another aspect that I think is also kind of terrifying is that a lot of these people that were co conspirators, a lot of these powerful people that were interconnected and doing all these business deals and all these projects and were a part of all these like really horrible, disgusting actions. A lot of them, a lot of them are very powerful individuals that are still out there, still hurting people, still hurting children. But also more importantly, there's an element of them, especially when you study kind of sociopath, that gets off on this type of disclosure that gets off at being able to say, I did this, I got away with this. And that kind of mindset propels them to do bigger and worse things afterwards. So that's the, the two biggest type of things that we really need to consider from this Epstein debacle is the loss of trust everywhere. And then these kind of like sociopath billionaires, super powerful people that are out there that are emboldened more than ever. Right. They're above the law.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
So I pray that all of the files come out. I pray that we get the truth. I pray that powerful people that did horrible things to a lot of people get held accountable for it when they, when they need to obviously deal with the ramifications of their actions so they never do it again. But will it come out? Probably not, I don't think under Trump.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, maybe. We'll see who's next.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, even if it's a Democrat, I don't think it's going to come out Right. So No, Like Epstein was connected to the Democrats and he was connected to the Republicans.
Co-host / Interviewer
That's true.
Luke Rudkowski
Right. He was playing both sides. He didn't care. He cared about his scientific projects, his eugenics operation. He cared about propelling his goals and his initiatives. It didn't matter. Right. So even if the Democrats come into power, I don't see it being released. I see Trump preemptively pardoning everyone, just like Biden did.
Co-host / Interviewer
Wow.
Luke Rudkowski
And there's going to be no recourse for that.
Co-host / Interviewer
I would tank his reputation.
Luke Rudkowski
Yes. But, I mean, everyone's going to say, but Biden did it and he needs to do this. It's going to be a blanket pardon. It's not going to be we're pardoning you because you helped cover up the Epstein stuff. It's just going to be a blanket pardon, just like Biden did. Right. And it's going to be like, you can't hold us accountable for anything we did here. And it's going to be contested, but I think there's going to be, at that time frame, 2028, a lot of other bigger problems. And I think this issue won't be as big over by then. Yeah. Especially financial issues. Financial problems.
Co-host / Interviewer
So you can compete in bigger problems financially.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, absolutely.
Co-host / Interviewer
Recession.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, not just that. Job loss.
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AI AI.
Luke Rudkowski
Takeover.
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I'm already seeing it.
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lot of firings, and I've been hearing about it for years.
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Luke Rudkowski
And, you know, I had conversations with a lot of, you know, people in the industry, and they're. They're terrified.
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A lot of people are toast, dude.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
Co-host / Interviewer
But the mainstream media won't say this.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, they're not admitting it. They don't want to create panic.
Co-host / Interviewer
No.
Luke Rudkowski
But I think if there ever was a time to create a garden, it is now.
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I got mine.
Luke Rudkowski
If there's ever a time. I literally said this last year during my speech at the bitcoin conference, I. I said, listen, things are going to get really crazy financially, especially now with the Iran war. It's pretty crazy now. I said, get to know your neighbor. Grow a little garden. It's fun. Worst case scenario, you have healthy food. Right. That's not. That doesn't have the Bill Gates appeal on it. That doesn't have all the pesticides on it. Right. That you grew. Yeah, that you grew. That you made yourself. All right. And then you also have a lot of positive health benefits, being outside working with, like, good bacteria in the. In the dirt. You also have a lot of fun. You also are able to like learn a good skill.
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But in case the world ended, it is a good skill to have.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
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Being able to grow vegetables and fruit.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, I think that's going to be more important than ever. If you look at the Great Depression, a lot of people were very independent. A lot of people were already capable of being self sufficient and they still faced massive amounts of famine, massive amounts of hunger. History has a weird way of rhyming and repeating. And if we look at the history from the 1920s, the 1930s, the 1940s and where we're kind of headed into, I think it's going to be very similar to the big issues and the big problems people faced in the early 1900s.
Co-host / Interviewer
Every hundred years.
Luke Rudkowski
Every hundred years. So plagues, diseases, whether made by Dr.
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That's SelectQuote.comDSH an echo health alliance and Peter Dasak. Or not. All right. And then economic collapse, boom periods, world wars. You have a lot of people on a war posturing that's very worrying. A lot of countries preparing their countries preparing their people for the worst possible case scenario.
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I got a lot of people saying potential blackouts too. Yes, a lot. Very qualified, educated people.
Luke Rudkowski
Good times to try to become self sufficient. Yeah, Good time to try to learn how solar panels work.
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I've been looking into all this. Yeah, same, same. I just found out like you can't collect rainwater.
Luke Rudkowski
It's illegal in most jurisdictions.
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Yeah, because I was looking into that for like a water filtration system.
Luke Rudkowski
People have gotten sued.
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Crazy, right?
Luke Rudkowski
And fine. Significantly. Well, it depends. Some people are making arguments because of. Because I think there's going to be a very significant problems of water with the AI centers. Not just the AI centers, but just with the demand and clean drinking water being used up as much as it is. I think Nevada is going to face a serious issue. South Africa is already facing it. The Middle east is already an area that relies on also water desalination, which is very expensive, which is very costly, which is very hard to do. And now we're bombing their water desalination plants in Iran, which is crazy if they're dealing with significant drought. So I think water is going to be a very significant issue. And if everyone starts collecting rainwater, that's going to make sure a lot of the rivers, a lot of the lakes don't get refilled. So I think that's why it is kind of an issue that some governments have taken more seriously, especially with major water shortages. And now AI coming in and being like, we're gonna use up that water.
Co-host / Interviewer
I saw a video of how much it uses. It's crazy. The lake out here is. Every year it's going down.
Luke Rudkowski
Yep. Yeah, I. I saw the map. And it's. It's kind of terrible.
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Luke Rudkowski
Crazy. And then what's going to happen in Las Vegas when that happens?
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Luke Rudkowski
And then there's, you know, weather weapons and weather modification that governments already admit that they have that is going to be utilized here. And I think resources are going to be a key issue that a lot of countries are going to be fighting for. And I think that's why the Arctic is going to be one of the key kind of battlegrounds where countries are just going to send in their robots to fight these, like, Terminator wars of the future for resources.
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I wonder if that's why we get along in Antarctica right now. They know this. They've looked in the. In the future.
Luke Rudkowski
Who knows?
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Who knows? Right over there. Yeah. That's a whole other.
Luke Rudkowski
We're living in a world where anything and everything could be possible, especially with just how advanced AI is becoming. Technological advancements are going to propel with it.
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Right.
Luke Rudkowski
So what we are capable of doing, what the AI is going to be capable of doing, is something that we can't even perceive.
Co-host / Interviewer
I've talked to, like, drone experts about this, and the stuff that drones are doing now is you wouldn't even believe it. You know what I mean? Like, it could fly through vents and assassinate you.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, there's like, little. I was talking about this, like, 10 years ago. There's like, little mini bullet drones that literally have a small explosive device that just.
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Wow.
Luke Rudkowski
Doesn't they take you out?
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So, I mean, I've seen the Charlie theory with the lab mic. I don't know if that's a drone or whatever, but who knows?
Luke Rudkowski
The, the, the drones are terrifying. Especially when you look into all the advanced tech that even the CIA talks about. They're talking about like heartwave monitors that there were utilizing, they're talking about microwave weapons that they utilized for the capture of a Maduro.
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Yeah, they knocked everyone out.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, yeah. So imagine if you, you know, take something like that and put it on a drone. Right.
Co-host / Interviewer
Or if you have fly drone and knock everyone out.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly. So the, the possibilities here are terrifying. Like I've talked to some of the people in the theater of war in Ukraine and it is just horror.
Co-host / Interviewer
That's the drone war. Yeah, Ukraine.
Luke Rudkowski
It is just absolute mayhem, hell on earth type of dystopian buzzing type of robots that are just on their way that you can't do anything about or living in a terminator. And then there's like counter drone measures and then there's wired drones, fiber optic drones. So it's like for every like countermeasure there's another measure and it just keeps getting more convoluted and complicated. And we're all focusing our efforts on trying to like mean and kill and murder as many people as possible. And when you factor that in with what is essentially a eugenics operation at play already, in my opinion, it's terrifying.
Co-host / Interviewer
Depopulation agenda, right? Yeah, they want us down to a bit. Some people, it's like a billion. There's mixed things on it.
Luke Rudkowski
It depends on, on who you kind of like listen to or attribute to. But there's going to be a significant issue where there's not going to be enough jobs.
Co-host / Interviewer
Right.
Luke Rudkowski
The economy is going to be in a position where I think certain elites that benefit off of that are going to want to share and I think that's the kind of realm that we're entering that really is going to be not the best for humanity. We've seen huge transfers of wealth in 2001, 2008, 2020, where the billionaire class and the like, rich people become richer than ever and everyone else is kind of left holding the bill in the bag. And it's like there never was a conversation about that. It was always bailouts, it was always privatizing the losses for the big players. There was never really a conversation about, hey, what about the average person? What about the person that just got screwed here? What about the person that just had their purchasing power devalued significantly? There never was a correction. So to say that there's going to be some kind of Great equality that's going to come and make everything just and fair. I think is delusional. I think it's, it's, it's naive type of thinking. And I know Elon Musk is talking about greater universal basic income or universal greater income, but. But then we're entering the realm of like global communism and people not having any type of meaning, which is going to kind of transcend us into this weird type of paradox of like what do we do next?
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Luke Rudkowski
Especially when people start to not have enough to survive. Now you could also optimistically say we'll figure it out just like we always did. And I think that that option is always worth entertaining. I think it's always worth looking into. Hey, there could be a good aspect here. I'm always big into like positive thinking, so I always try to say, okay, what's the best case scenario? Right. And just hypothetically just kind of freeballing it, what you hear technology comes and it frees people and it makes them smarter, more intelligent, and it allows them to focus on propelling humanity and expanding it and making us into this space explorative type of species that goes out there and discovers what's in our oceans, probably aliens discovers what's out there in the great kind of beyond of this Earth. And we kind of propel our humanity and grow in a way where our basic needs aren't really kind of even something we need to fight for that are, that's kind of taken care of. When we could focus on education and we could focus on art and we could focus on philosophy and we could focus on bringing better meaning. I would love that. But with the way that things are going now, yeah, it doesn't look like we're on that trajectory.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Now I think we, we always need to talk about positive outcomes and positive outcomes. But we would need to greatly transform our society and our thinking now. And I don't think we're there, but I think we need to get there. I think we need to push for this. I think we always need to fight for humanity, for family, for life, for the human will, the human spirit. And I think that fight, that flame is very low. But I think at any moment, in any time, it could be reignited with people just having vigor and care and love and living life to its fullest potential of exploration, of discovery, of just life to the fullest. But we have a lot of doom or crap going on too. So yeah, we need to deal with
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crazy events happening, unite both sides. I don't know what it would take
Luke Rudkowski
like an alien disclosure.
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Disclosure. That could be it, right? I mean, they said they're releasing some UFO files soon. I don't know what you think about that.
Luke Rudkowski
I've been talking about UFOs for such a long time, and I've. I've always talked to, like, some of the top ufologists and some of the top people in this field. I am a little suspicious with so many government insiders and so many people from the CIA coming out and saying, yeah, aliens are real. Yeah, it's just nonchalant. It feels like we're in a soft disclosure. I know Steven Spielberg is releasing his movie, which a lot of people believe is kind of predictive programming for the moment that we're in right now. But it feels like little by little, we have J.D. vance make his statement. We have Barack Obama make his statement. We have Donald Trump make a statement. Matt Gaetz talking about a human alien gene breeding program. Congressman Tim Burchett kind of, you know, confirming it. Anna Paulina Luna kind of talking about the Book of Enoch all the time. David Woolcock talking about the Book of Enoch before his passing. It definitely makes you wonder about what's really going on here. I find it extremely suspicious that all of this is coming out in the timeline that it is. I question it very seriously, and I think we're going to be able to judge when we see the results of what happens because of this disclosure. But in the beginning, like 20 years ago, people were who were talking about aliens were just dismissed as crazy.
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Crazy.
Luke Rudkowski
And then, and then they were attacked by the media, they were attacked by the government and said, you know, you're just insane. Their lives were made miserable by all these, like, government agencies. Yeah.
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A lot of them got debanked.
Luke Rudkowski
Debanked, harassed, intimidated. A lot of people faced a lot of problems when they were talking about aliens. And now we literally have people from the CIA and we have the vice president, we have the president, we have the former president, all saying aliens are pretty much real fishy. I'm a little skeptical personally, and I think with AI, I think there are capabilities to fake an AI kind of alien disclosure.
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Luke Rudkowski
The Miami incident is kind of weird. It's strange. I don't know what to even think about that particular incident because I've talked to police officers that were there and they don't report anything weird or suspicious that they've seen, really. Right. So from my accounts, from talking to some of the police sources that I have, they didn't see anything. They didn't. Weird.
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I thought they did a hologram or something.
Luke Rudkowski
Could be I wasn't there. You know, my police sources just tell me like it wasn't really anything that.
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Yeah, I felt like that was a test.
Luke Rudkowski
But also it could have been just like the radio transmission in the early 1900s War of the Worlds where they faked an alien invasion on the radio to gauge people's reaction to it and they spread panic. So we're living in such a disinformation age where the original and I said this like five years ago. I was specifically making a prediction saying like conspiracies no longer work. The conspiracy that is going to be the conspiracy is going to be what's going to be at play here. The conspiracy is going to be the psyop of the conspiracy in a way where they kind of psyop us.
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with conspiracies. So when we're looking at like those Miami events, I'm always very critical of everything I see. And I think we need to stop judging things from a reactionary emotional way of like this happened. We need to start looking at things of how is this going to play out in the long scheme of things? Who is set to benefit from all of this? Where is all of this going? Where is all this conversation going?
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Yeah, follow the money. Right.
Luke Rudkowski
Not just the money, but influence.
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Right.
Luke Rudkowski
And persuasion.
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Speaking of influence, you're in Miami so I got to ask you about clavicular. Yeah. 2.2 billion views last month. They're saying there's some links with Peter Thiel and him. I'm not sure if you've seen that. Have you investigated him at all?
Luke Rudkowski
I know there's accusations with Peter Gale to promote like looks maxing. I know there's a whole bunch of conspiracies. For me it just feels very similar to the, to the la. To the rat experiment where they give rats everything that they want and then they start to just to absolutely destroy society and starts to not populate, not stop having children, start to look smacks literally rat Stars. Yeah. And from that type of perspective, is there some kind of sinister AI agenda to put us in this kind of rat experiment? I think it's worth thinking about. Is there any actual evidence and proof and receipts that I have?
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No, I do not I've seen anything convincing.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly.
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Well, it does remind me like the whole Kim Kardashian era, how now all the girls get the same procedures. They're looking the same.
Luke Rudkowski
They all look the same. They all want to look like that same Instagram joker. It's kind of sickening. It's kind of sad.
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It's disgusting.
Luke Rudkowski
I'll have those like lip fillers and butthole lips. And it's all like. And I think it's. It's very kind of indicative of social media mind control. Right. Especially with young women. I think women are more susceptible because they're genetically more susceptible towards groupthink. It was a survival mechanism when we were still in caves. And I think a lot of psychologists have played up on that. We're in this new era of like a hyper Asperger's AI Edward Edward Bernays type of propaganda war that is very dangerous, very lethal, and it's leading to the demise of the human civilization.
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Yeah. It is tricky to navigate, but I literally feel it when I'm doom scrolling. Yeah. I could feel that I'm being invoked into a certain.
Luke Rudkowski
You feel that kind of black dark energy?
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Yeah.
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Luke Rudkowski
It's like, it's like you're going down a hole, dude. It's. The more you keep like moving your thumb, it's like you're just like digging yourself into this. And it's like, I get it's my job now, like, but I like, I don't. The more I kind of look at it, I literally, after I do my work, after I do my videos, I stay very disciplined. I literally go and hang and I hang out with my chickens, right? I literally go and I like train my dog.
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That's smart. So you're not compromised.
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When I'm doomscrolling, like, I'm trying to find guests and borrow clips. So like. But dude, on Twitter, I just see people dying.
Luke Rudkowski
Like someone getting punched and people celebrating it. Yeah, like he deserved it.
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Luke Rudkowski
It's like really desensitized trauma based mind control. It's meant to shock you to the point where nothing shocks you. It's meant to sterilize you of any kind of real unique human emotions that gives you life and Breeds kind of of this, this kind of joy that we've had before that we no longer have. Right. It's like raw zombified monsters that are being put in this rat cage that are being given everything we want and now we're all look smacksing rats leading to the demise of our entire rat population.
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It's nuts because the craziest thing when we were growing up was seeing like a world star fight fight.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
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And now people are bump fights. You are just pretty wild with the girls pulling their hair or whatever. And now you just see murder. You see like it's shooting.
Luke Rudkowski
It's all on your timeline. Yeah. And it's like I don't want to see this. No, like I don't want to. Like you know in the beginning of the Internet you're like, you know, even back then there was like certain like websites that had all this like crazy insane stuff. But now it's like in your timeline it's like I haven't signed up for
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this like and adult contents in your timeline too. You'll exactly see a booty pic.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly.
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It's 10 years old.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. And this is how like males are affected by this. The way that women are affected by this is far more sinister because they're forced into this kind of very insecure self hatred type of dialectic that they're never good enough or that they need to become like predators or they need to you know, glorify themselves through just their physical body and not their brain. And it really is leading towards a lot of irreversible harm and damage that I think we're going to look back on and be kind of horrified with the situation with so many like 80, 90 year old like of former women that need to be subsidized by governments. Of course they'll keep voting left wing governments that promise to take care of them. And we're like slowly stepping ourselves into this communist, Maoist, dystopian AI, technocratic looks, maxing rat experiment. That is just going to be awful.
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Luke Rudkowski
I wish there was another way with the private market to kind of like de. Incentivize this. But it's an uphill battle that a lot of people believe has already been lost. Only bands are just the, the whole degeneracy, the whole kind of ethos and the whole kind of landscape that people are kind of addicted to. That's why you know, they say if solar flare might come and wipe out all communications.
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Could be a good thing.
Luke Rudkowski
Maybe that's what we need. Yeah, it could be a good thing, you know?
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Yeah. I don't know. I think the only counter to this is not being on social media. Like when I have kids, I'm gonna monitor it. I don't know.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, but then their friends are gonna have it.
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Right. That's a battle. Right. Complain and.
Luke Rudkowski
Right. Like I, I also want to homeschool my kids, but then I want to put them. I'm gonna wanna. When I have my kids, I want to. I want to put them in like a basketball league or like a wrestling, like fighting league. And they're going to talk to other people that are going to be affected by us.
Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
And it's going to be very difficult to stay away from a lot of those influences.
Co-host / Interviewer
Almost impossible. Right. I feel like you need this these days. It's like an extension of us.
Luke Rudkowski
You need it for everything. Like you can't even get a paper airplane ticket anymore. It's like, oh, really? In some. With some airports.
Co-host / Interviewer
I grew up on those.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly.
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We never had digital when we were growing up.
Luke Rudkowski
Everything is like, hey, give us, give us your acquiescence, give us your phone, give us your personal data. And then of course, they weaponize it and then they monetize it and then nothing is private anymore.
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Crazy amount. Well, dude, where can people watch your show? Keep up with you.
Luke Rudkowski
YouTube.com forward/we are change. I've been just grinding on, on the YouTube channel. I've been trying to like sprinkle in all the little health autistic facts that I know in there as much as I can. I always try to laugh rather than cry. I think we always need a positive attitude. I think we always need to try to see the light. I know it's very difficult in this type of day and age, but try to have that on a local, decentralized level with your family, with your friends, with your neighbors. Get some pies, go over to your neighbor, give your neighbor a pie. Just say hi. Some of them are crazy. Some of them might be bad.
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I did that when I moved in. I had plants, not pies. But we went like four for eight. Four of them were chill, four of them didn't respond.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, I mean, it's a good way just to get to know people because if, if, if ish hits the fan, you're going to want to have like a good group of people that at least are going to be able to be there for you. Right. And you for them.
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Absolutely. Especially when you travel like, yo, can you monitor the house a little bit? Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
If anything like weird happens when I'm not here, can you let me know?
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Yeah. Like, dude, we're in crazy times. My security camera got hacked last week. Wow. Yeah. Nuts. Yep. Security camera. Yeah man. Be safe guys.
Luke Rudkowski
Absolutely.
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Come out.
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This episode delves into the rapid rise of AI-driven surveillance, media manipulation, the erosion of privacy, and the social upheaval unfolding in America and around the world. Luke Rudkowski, independent journalist and founder of We Are Change, discusses his concerns over mass surveillance legislation, psychological manipulation via social media algorithms, left vs. right polarization, the impact of AI on both warfare and daily life, and what it means for the future of freedom, mental health, and humanity itself.
AI Surveillance Tech in Everyday Life
“They're going to federally mandate facial scanners that will be able to read your expressions. Ford also is putting out patents where they could use sound wave systems to interpret what you're saying... It's trauma based mind control.” — Luke (01:42, 06:34)
Government and Corporate Partnership
“A lot of the funding… of these huge social media tech companies, it’s all surrounded with In-Q-Tel, which is essentially the CIA venture capitalist firm.” — Luke (09:42)
Predictive Algorithms and Censorship
Information Overload and Deception
“There's so much fake news and so much AI like alterations... It's like, okay, what actually happened here? Can we get to the core issue?” — Luke (03:28)
AI-Powered Censorship & Distraction
"Now what you could do is you just release a whole bunch of AI slop or a whole bunch of, like, distractions and ... no one pays attention to the key core issues anymore." — Luke (11:52)
Algorithmic Radicalization
"...violent, radicalized individuals that were radicalized specifically because of the AI algorithms, but most importantly, the algorithms that were impacted by the CIA and the FBI during the Biden administration..." — Luke (04:18)
Society in a State of Trauma
“I think we're going through a mass trauma hypnosis, and I think it's spurring people on to commit a lot of these violent acts.” — Luke (17:19)
“It's an ethos of, like, we can't get along with each other. And it keeps... being weaponized in a way where people are fighting with each other that have more in common.” — Luke (18:42)
Self-Censorship under Surveillance
Increase in Isolation Despite More Connection
“We’re connected more than ever, but we’re also isolated more than ever.” — Luke (23:35)
Economic and Social Pressure
Advanced Military AIs
“They're becoming more dependent on them for military actions.... we're using AI to help with targeting, we're using AI to help determine who lives, who dies." — Luke (13:07)
AI’s Water Consumption and Resource Strain
Drone Warfare and the Dystopian Future
Advice for Regaining Humanity and Resilience
Dangers of Doom-Scrolling and Social Media Addiction
Need for Critical Thinking and Personal Agency
Legacy of Government Deceit
Management of Public Perception through Psyops
Mass Distrust as a Systemic Problem
Rise of “Looksmaxxing” and Social Engineering in Social Media
Social Media’s Psychological Impact
Growing Need for Self-Sufficiency
Fears about Water, Power, and Survival
AI Job Takeover and Universal Basic Income Skepticism
Alien Disclosure and Manufactured Crises
Warning Against Reacting to Viral “Events”
On Mass Surveillance:
"They're going to federally mandate facial scanners... Ford also is putting out patents where they could use sound wave systems to interpret what you're saying. It's trauma based mind control. It's meant to shock you to the point where nothing shocks you." — Luke (01:42, repeated emphasis throughout)
On Manipulation Via Social Media:
"Back… Facebook was running studies about how they could manipulate people's emotions through the algorithm..." — Luke (07:31)
On Polarization and Division:
“You kind of worry, like, is this person going to be violent? Is this person crazy? Is this person insane?” — Luke (18:31)
On Self-Sufficiency:
“If there ever was a time to create a garden, it is now.” — Luke (41:55)
On Conspiracies and Information Warfare:
“The conspiracy that is going to be the conspiracy is going to be what's going to be at play here. The conspiracy is going to be the psyop of the conspiracy.” — Luke (57:51)
On Personal Practices:
“After I do my work, after I do my videos, I stay very disciplined. I literally go and hang and I hang out with my chickens. I literally go and I like train my dog.” — Luke (64:04)
On Community:
“We're connected more than ever, but we're also isolated more than ever.” — Luke (23:35)
| Timestamp | Topic | |-------------|----------| | 01:42–06:34 | AI surveillance, kill switches in cars, Ford's patents, trauma-based mind control | | 03:28–04:18 | Proliferation of fake news, deepfakes, radicalization via AI-algorithms | | 07:31–10:26 | Self-censorship, CIA tech funding, government involvement in tech | | 13:03–13:53 | Advanced military AIs, Palantir, AI in conflict zones | | 17:19–23:54 | MKUltra parallels, trauma as control, societal fragmentation, need for community | | 24:43–26:43 | “Prison planet,” isolation, relationships, provocative t-shirts as “filters” | | 31:45–38:33 | 9/11, conspiracy management, Epstein's role, loss of trust in institutions | | 41:55–42:51 | Prepping, gardening, self-sufficiency advice | | 47:06–48:18 | Water shortages, illegality of rainwater collection | | 49:04–50:29 | Drones, Terminator wars, resource battles | | 52:51–54:17 | AI job loss, universal basic income, future speculations | | 55:09–57:51 | UFO disclosure skepticism, “soft disclosure” theory | | 61:13–62:43 | Influence, looksmaxxing, “rat experiment” social engineering | | 63:32–66:31 | Social-media-induced numbness, gendered harms, generational pessimism | | 68:07–69:18 | Building neighborly bonds, importance of local resilience |
Raw, energetic, and conspiratorial, the conversation is layered with skepticism toward authority, a sense of urgent warning, interlaced with dark humor and survivor mentality. Both host and guest blend personal anecdotes, cultural references, and “advice from the edge” while maintaining a persistent undercurrent of social critique.