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Manifest 7-Figure Success: CEO Reveals Shocking Mind Hack | Kathleen Cameron DSH #1044
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🚀 Manifest 7-Figure Success: Unleash Your Mind's Hidden Power! 💰✨ Join Sean Kelly as he sits down with manifestation expert Kathleen Cameron on the Digital Social Hour. Discover shocking mind hacks that can skyrocket your success and transform...
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What energy does that create? Like, what am I manifesting from that energy? And I realized from that that I was manifesting a distance or a gap between us and that I won't experience that reality because I don't see it in myself. So I sent her a beautiful message congratulating her on all of her success and how inspiring she was. And then I chose to see that for myself. And very, very quickly my business grew to be what her business was and more.
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Incredible even. Okay, guys, digital social hour. First episode in the brand new studio and I got manifestation expert here with me today. Kathleen, thanks for coming on.
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B
Thanks so much for having me.
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Absolutely. I met you at Secret Knock and heard great things about you. So I'm excited for this one.
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I'm excited. That wasn't long ago. I think Secret Knock was maybe like September.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So here we are in 11-1-1. Today is 1 1-1. November 1.
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Angel numbers. Right. I'm. I'm a big fan of numerology too.
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Are you?
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Yeah.
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So today is also the new moon. 111 new moon in Scorpio.
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Interesting.
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So powerful day today. Magic.
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Yeah. I was skeptical of it growing up.
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Why?
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Numerology and astrology. Just the way I was conditioned, you know, I thought it was woo woo.
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Me too. And I think it is woo woo. But I've really embraced the woo woo, which has changed my whole experience. But for me, it's about I always ask the question, okay, so if numerology says xyz, does that serve me and do I want to believe it? So sometimes numerology can tell a story that I don't love, so I just disregard.
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Interesting. So you go against it.
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Of course. I do. The same thing with things like Gene keys. Things like what's that other one that people talk about all the time.
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Life. Life path.
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Yeah, life path, numbers, things like that. I always just make sure because for me, it's always about having the best, most empowering beliefs that I can have. So I don't want to believe that anything negative or bad may or could occ because it could create from there. So I'll just disregard things that I don't think are applicable.
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I could see that. And yeah, some people like to blame genetics on like health conditions and stuff, but I feel like you can really manifest your way out of certain. I mean, it's controversial, certain diseases, honestly.
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Oh, in my world that's not controversial. Like on YouTube. It is in my manifestation world. Like people are curing everything, like mental health, chronic diseases, illnesses, autoimmune disorders. Especially like the self, the body fighting itself through this work. People are curing all kinds of things. And myself even.
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Yeah, no, I've seen it too. So I'll speak on that. And the thing with 23andMe and these DNA tests is they show you these results and it kind of scares you. Like you have this chance of getting this disease and then you put that thought in people's head.
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Yeah. And even with any sort of medical diagnosis, like I'm a registered nurse by background, so I was in that scientific health field for over 12 years. I have a lot of formal education there. And what I've realized with that is the power behind suggestion. And so when a physician says to you, okay, you've now been diagnosed with this, and it likely means this sort of prognosis, they're actually starting the manifestation process in you. The moment that they say that, wow. So for me, I'm like, whoa. As soon as somebody tells me they got a diagnosis and a prognosis, I'm like, okay, I'd like you to just disregard that and let's plant a new seed that we want to manifest that reality from instead. So I've had to disregard a lot of my former beliefs, knowledge and assumptions for sure, in this process. Oh, yeah. Huge.
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How long were you a nurse for?
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12 years.
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Whoa.
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Yeah. 12 years.
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So you witnessed a lot.
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Oh, yeah. And I was in school for nine years as well during that process. So I was really focused upon needing to observe something to mean it was real. Like you have to see it in order to believe it. It even. Like I was a medical researcher for Princess Margaret Hospital, which is a cancer hospital in Toronto. And you know, you had to show me like a peer reviewed journal article to say that this was True. And that this was real. It was evidence based. But that was so limiting for. For manifestation. Because now for me, I live from a reality of the invisible. So for me, I bring something that I've never seen into the physical 3D through the imagination. And it changed my. My whole life. Hence why I'm sitting here with you.
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A
Interesting. Yeah. You were able to manifest a lot of things.
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Oh, yes, a lot of things. A lot of money, a lot of opportunity, a lot of experiences, health related things, relationships. I've. I'm really living right now. My life is a creation that I created in my imagination. And it's a human experience that is one that I chose and very, very consciously and intentionally manifested. Yes.
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Wow. Yeah. I've had a few guests, like, manifest podcast appearances.
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Yeah.
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And then somehow our team will get in touch with them.
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Oh, of course.
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And it's happened like over five times.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, even like being here with you, you were up on that stage at Secret Knox speaking, and I was like, oh, I would love to be on this podcast. And, you know, just one thing led to another and I'm sitting here with you today. And so that's, that's how a lot of things happen. You know, I' gotten a few awards in the past couple of years, and it came from one thought of like, I saw somebody get an award and I was like, oh, I would love to get an award. And then like, next thing you know, I was at a gala accepting awards and I'm like, huh, this is so interesting. So anything that we can desire, as long as we hold the image of it, it will be true. It's by law. It's actually law. So that's, that's my reality. This is, this is how my life is now shaped through intentionally choosing what's coming next.
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Yeah, I love that mindset. Because some people can see someone getting an award and they get jealous.
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Well, I used to feel that way sometimes. So at the beginning of my journey, when I launched my own business and I had just entered entrepreneurship, especially with women, there's this thing where other women succeeding, for whatever reason, we compare ourselves, it makes us feel some kind of way. And I'll never forget this one woman, she was thriving and soaring. She had this incredible business and she just kept winning and winning. And I felt this, like, sense inside of me of like, oh, why her and why not me? And I went, hold on. What energy does that create? Like, what am I manifesting from that energy? And I realized from that that I was manifesting a distance or a gap between us, and that I won't experience that reality because I don't see it in myself. So I sent her a beautiful message congratulating her on all of her success and how inspiring she was. And then I chose to see that for myself. And very, very quickly my business grew to be what her business was and more incredible even.
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And that's the dangers of celebrities, right? Idolizing celebrities?
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Well, yeah. So I actually started in the law of attraction world, the manifestation world, through Bob Proctor. He was my mentor in 2019. And one of the things he used to say all the time is he'd say, don't put me on a pedestal. Like, take me off the pedestal. And it was like, well, why is he saying that? Like, you're amazing. Like, you should see that you're amazing. He wasn't saying he didn't think he was amazing. But as long as we put someone on a pedestal above us, we are always less than. So now for me, I do have this belief that we are all one, we are all the same, and we're all up on the pedestal. So I didn't necessarily take myself off or take him off, but I just put myself there, too. And so I don't think I'm better than anybody, but I also don't think I'm less than anybody. And that, that. That energy has been very powerful for me in manifesting over the years. For sure.
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I try to do the same thing when I'm at events because these guys will get hounded for photos and it's like they're not going to really respect you if you're just going up, ask for a photo right away.
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Yeah, well, I think it's about. It's a vibration of, you know, if you desire to meet someone and have a photograph taken from them because you're inspired by them, that's a very, very different energy than you want a picture because you want to post it on your social media so other people see that you were with this person. Like, that energy comes from feeling like maybe you're not as good or you're less than and you need to validate by being with somebody that's up here. But if you're truly inspired, I think that's a beautiful energy. And I don't think that that will manifest negatively for you, but it's just the underlying reason you do things, to me, that manifests the outcome.
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Agreed? Yeah, that reason's important. What were some big things you learned from Bob?
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Oh, my gosh, so many things. One of the Greatest things that I learned from Bob was truly about vibration and the importance of it over the years. You know, when I first learned about the law of vibration, which is, you know, most know, the law of attraction, which is the secondary part of the law of vibration, knowing that we are vibrational beings, that we are always vibrating and the vibration that we're in, we, we use the word emotion to describe it. I feel sad, I feel happy, I feel complacent, I feel excited. You know, it's describing that vibrational state. So that that was one of the first things that I learned from him that we attract from that. But Bob really, really taught so much about the importance of identity and self concept. And so for me now, the language I would put it in that he, he probably wouldn't say it in is that our identity or self concept has a feeling. It's an emotional conception of who we believe we are. So it's not that mood manifests. So I'm happy today. I'm gonna manifest all the money in the world because there's lots of very rich and famous and wealthy people that are very unhappy. So mood doesn't manifest, but self concept and identity does. The feeling of who you are manifests. So I was a very, very shy woman. I really, really didn't believe in myself and my physical body. I was very ashamed of it being a plus sized woman most of my life. And one of the things Bob really taught me was, okay, take those beliefs about the self and create one that is vibrationally going to take you up a level. So I thought, all right. At first I wrote out this whole thing about I'm going to go to the gym every morning at 4:30, I'm going to lose £100, I'm going to become thin so I could be successful. And they wrote this all out. And then I looked at it and I went, hold on. If the belief is what manifests, then it's not needing to be skinny that manifests. It's the belief that skinny means successful, that if I changed it would change my reality. So I decided, okay, hold on, I'm gonna be successful now in a 300 pound body. So I was 320 pounds when I manifested my first $3 million in my first year of business. And what changed was that I no longer was in shame and guilt about being plus size, but I became empowered. And so I saw that as being a superpower. So I decided, I'm not going to go to the gym, I'm not going to work out, I'm not going to lose a hundred pounds. I'm going to create a successful business today in the body I'm in. And so that was huge. So the vibration that I was on then, what I attracted, I was no longer attracting from shame and guilt and feeling inferior. I started to attract from empowerment, confidence, self love, inspiration. And then my magnet was very different. You can see how people were like, what's this woman doing? Like she's plus size and she's not ashamed. She's building a successful business. I want to be a part of what she's doing.
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Yeah.
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And this is where my following really started to grow.
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Love that. Thank you for being open about your weight because I know there's a lot of shame with women and their weight. Right. They don't want to admit it.
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Even men. Actually. I like what I've observed over the past four and a half years is everyone has beliefs about their bodies and it actually doesn't even matter what size you are right now. You know, I'll never forget I did a body positivity photo shoot in Toronto right in front of the CN Tower and this body positive activist was doing it. And I was like, you know what, I'm going to liberate myself. I'm going to do it. I'm going to pose in my bra and underwear in front of, in front of the CN Tower. And I had never ever even worn a bikini. Like I would wear a T shirt over my bathing suit. That's how self conscious I was growing up, right. I said, I'm going to do this, I'm going to liberate myself. And I'm standing next to this woman and she's in her bra and underwear and we had to hold hands for one of the pictures. She was shaking. Now when I look at this woman, she to me had the perfect body, flat stomach, beautiful boobs, nice butt. Like I looked at her and I was like, what's your problem? Like you look pretty good. But she was petrified because in her mind her body was not good and she was just as nervous. Actually she was more nervous than I was. But in that moment I realized that it's not actually about if you are big or small or not. It's what you believe about your body. And if you think that it's beautiful or not and if you think that it's attractive or not. And so there's men out there who will not go swimming without, without taking their T shirt off too, you know. And I just think for me, and this is one of the things I really want to help shift in the world is the belief that body size has anything to do with worthiness, value, success in the world or even health. That's another thing. You know, I was £320 and no health issues. Like, no health issues? No.
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And you know, that's not the norm though, to be honest.
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Well, here's the thing. Health does not equal wealth. Sorry, agreed with that one too. But health does not equal body size. So number on the scale and health status are two very different things. Because we see people that are in thin bodies where the BMI scale would be like, oh, you're the perfect weight, but yet you have chronic heart disease and you know, you have, you know, lung problems that you can't breathe, high cholesterol and stuff like this. So for me, health is all things. The health of the individual isn't just about weight. And so just because you have a higher number on the scale, there's actually more and more evidence to prove that that's actually not true, that increased weight does not mean poor health outcomes.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah, there's a lot of evidence and there's a lot of beautiful health advocates. So for me, like this year, not this year, 2022 is when I decided to embody the idea of health I never had because I believed I was fat. So I'm unhealthy. So I had this unhealthy identity. 2022, I decided, okay, I, I want to be the healthiest I've ever been. I'm going to manifest health. So how do I do that? I have to be health today. So I quit drinking alcohol, started walking every single day. I reprogrammed my subconscious mind to love healthy food because growing up I, I love sugar carbs. Yeah, you know, they were just habits, they were just beliefs that I had. So I reprogrammed my subconscious mind to love vegetables and salads and all those types of things. And now like I've, I've released over 115 pounds on the scale from the 320 version of me, but it has nothing to do with my worth or value. But I'm at the same health status as I was then. Like if you look at blood work, if you look at everything other than the weight on the scale, I'm a very, very, very, very similar health status. So it's just really interesting to look at it. So what I say is I'm on a weight neutral health journey, so it's not about getting skinny. This isn't about looking good. It's not about vanity. This is truly about my vessel lasting me a long life. And I'm manifesting such an incredible human experience. Travel opportunities, wealth, incredible relationships, fashion, all these types of things. And then here I am treating my body like crap. That's not going to last me a long time. So now I'm like, hold on. In order for us to truly manifest a beautiful, powerful experience, health has to be part of it. It really does. And how you can make that vessel long last you a long, long, long time.
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There's also more to just health and physical, too, I believe.
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Well, of course there is. Yeah. It's. It's not about what you look like. It's about the way in which you feel every day. It's about your emotional status. It's also including your social status. So people who are living in isolation tend to have poorer health outcomes.
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Yeah.
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So the better your relationships are, the more healthy you will be. So I look at this, the way I teach is like, it's the wholeness of the individual. Everything from your spiritual, your intellectual, and your physical 3D world. And it creates just such a beautiful whole experience. And what do we want? We want peace. We want to be fulfilled.
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Agreed?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I spent years isolated. My health was. My physical health was so bad.
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Mm. Yeah. Isolation is isolation and separation. And if we really realize what separation is, my manifestation journey, magic started to happen. Like, truly things like, I live a mythical life. That's what my Gene Keys say. And what that means is, like, people think that my life is a myth. You know, to go from registered nurse to building a $35 million business in four years. People are like, what? Are you serious? So it's like a mythic life. But in order for me to have done that, I've had to connect to my greater oneness. So to understand that I'm a drop of the universe and that I'm a part of it, and that this source energy or this God energy, whatever language you want to use, it feels good for you that I am a part of it. I am one with. I am not separate from. So that feeling that you are separate from the universe or separate from others or separate from this source energy, it is one of the most limiting beliefs and experiences that you can have. I mean, I've had depression in my life and was contemplating suicide in 2017, so not that long ago. And it was a very, very dark place. But I can tell you that I felt separate. I felt very separate. So now I feel very one with. And that oneness that Togetherness changed everything in my. In my experience, for sure.
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So in 17, you felt cut off from the source energy?
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Well, I. Actually, I. I didn't grew up with any sort of religious or spiritual beliefs at all, actually, Sean. Like, truly, I just believed I was a human and I was having a human experience.
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So. Atheist, right?
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Oh, yeah. I. I was just. I. I was Kathleen Cameron. This body, this meat suit. And in 2019, when I met Bob, I started to. I. I would have used the universe language back then because God, the God word, would have triggered me because I thought it was, like, sitting in a church praying.
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Yeah.
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And stuff. But now I can use it beautifully. It is the word that I tend to use now myself, but I would have used a universe. And so once I started, like, things like, okay, the universe is listening, and the universe is supporting me, and the universe has my back, and, like, I'm just gonna. You know, the universe is aligning. It was like, suddenly I realized, hold on, there's an experience outside of me. The physical body that's happening. There is something. And so once I started to realize that I'm actually a spiritual being having a human experience, and my humanity is part of me, but this is my vessel. It's like, this is the car I'm driving right now. And I want to take care of the car that I'm driving, but I understand that I'm not the car. Like, I'm not just the car. I'm so much more than that. And that's what's allowed me to tap into these magical experiences of manifestation. Because now I get that. I guide and direct source energy by who? My human is being interesting through the intellectual mind.
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Wow. So are you getting downloads or how does that process?
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I do. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I'm tapping into my spiritual gifts a lot more these days. So I do. I do channel. So when I teach, when I'm talking, oftentimes I don't recall what I said, or I'll say things that I've never read before in a book. I just know it. And I know that comes from the all of everything, the source. But, yeah. And I trust my intuition so much. Like, people are like, well, how did you do this? Like, tell me, you know, how did you decide one day you're gonna start your own business? And then, boom, you made a million dollars in seven months. You know, then you made 3 million, and then you did this, and you did that. How? How, how? And I'm like, I can tell you right now that I decided what I was Gonna do. So the 3 million that I did in that first year, Yeah, I wrote down, I'm gonna do 3 million. You know, Bob asked me after I did a million in seven months, he goes, so, what are you gonna do by the end of the year? And at first I went, well, 2 million. And then I went, no, Bob, no, actually, I'm gonna do 3 million by the end of the year. And so I set that future state, that desired state. And then the next year, I said, I'm gonna do 12, and then I did 12. But once you decide that desired state or what you want to experience, you have to understand the bridge of incidents will unfold towards the realization of that. So all of the connections, the networks, the meeting of this person, this opportunity will all show up for you. And it's in trusting your intuition so your intuition will guide you towards. So it guided me towards that 3 million because that was what I set. So now I have. I have a journal that I write down, like, all my intuitive ideas, and I act on my intuition like this. And I don't need a reason, I don't need a rationale. I don't need to explain it. I just say to the team, okay, let's do this. We're doing this today. This into this intuitive hit came through. And so everything from the name of my courses, my programs, my books, the live events that we do, everything is intuition guided.
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Yeah, some people call it a gut feeling, right?
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Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can call it a gut feeling. Sometimes it's a nudge, sometimes it's an idea, sometimes it's a thought. But the ability to be aware of it and then act upon it is the biggest thing. Because if your intuition is like, oh, do this, and then you're like, oh, no, that's not gonna work. Well, you're letting your limitations of the intellectual mind keep you from what source energy is directing you towards.
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Right?
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So this is why you've got to be super, super empowered. And this is why I don't want to believe anything negative about myself. I want to believe the best possible beliefs about Kathleen Cameron that I possibly can today so that I'm acting from that place. It's a law of expression. So we express ourselves based on who we think we are. So if I think I'm confident, fearless, empowered, that I'm the best person for the job, that, you know, I'm successful at everything that I do, I'm going to act very differently than if I'm somebody that's like, oh, I think I'm sort of good at it. I think maybe this will work. I think, you know, I'm a little more confident today than yesterday. Yeah, that's a totally different energy.
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100%. I had a lot of confidence issues growing up and body identity issues. I was super skinny.
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Yeah.
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And like, yeah, you could see my ribs. It was disgusting.
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And so then the belief is what? That the way in which you look makes a difference towards your value in this world. Right?
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100% as a guy. Yeah.
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Yeah. And. And so for me, it was like, hold on a minute. Like, what if my value and my worth isn't tied to my appearance, but it's tied to my aura, my energy field, my. The ways in which I love people, I care for people, the way in which I inspire people. So for me, I just, I got rid of that. And then I also decided to believe something new about myself. So instead of, you know, being a fat woman, being wrong or a bad thing, I was like, well, what if that's my superpower, you know? And I'll never forget this one woman came up to me. I had built a beautiful business as a plus size woman, and she was also plus size. And she said, you proved me wrong. And I was like, what do you mean? And she said, I didn't think that I could build a successful business in a plus size body, so I was always trying to get skinny. She said, but you just showed me that I can do it right now. And I was like, huh? So it's. It was the limiting belief that was keeping her from it. So for me it's like, what, what can you see in yourself that right now you think is a flaw and turn it into a superpower and it'll change your whole energetic, right, your whole energetic makeup, what you attract, what you bring into your life, and then guess what? Peace of mind. So for my whole life I was like, so ashamed of who I was and guilty for the things that I would eat. And then all of a sudden I changed this belief. It was like this ultimate surrender and relaxation of like. So I'm just going to be myself today. Like, huh? Okay, that's pretty easy.
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Yeah. You don't have to pretend to be someone else, right?
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No, no, no.
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You don't have to please people on social media.
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There is a livingness in being yourself. You come alive when you are yourself.
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That's why I love podcasting.
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Yeah, I love it to be you. Just get to be you and then you allow other people to sit across the table from you and just to be Themselves too, where they don't have to worry about being scripted, they don't have to say the right thing. You just say whatever comes to your mind.
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Yeah.
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It's beautiful.
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Absolutely. And very few celebrities can live like that because there's so much pressure to put on a certain, like, Persona. Right.
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Say the right thing.
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Yeah.
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Look the right way.
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PR teams, it's. It's a tough life, you know, that's why a lot of them have mental health issues.
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Yeah. Well, I think there's also. I read in a Eckhart Tolle book once, I think it was the Power of Now. He said, you know, one of the biggest things with the whole idea of fame and celebrity is that the human mind starts to believe that what we say about them is true. Right. So when you are somebody that people are telling you you're so amazing, you're so incredible, and you have the spotlight on you, you start to believe that, okay, I am special, I am this or I am that. And then, so what happens is you get this sense of validation from outside of you. And then the moment that somebody says the opposite or a media outlet comes out and says these things about you, or the moment that you're alone in a room and you don't have people telling you all these things, you start to then question it. So I think for all of us, no matter if you have some sort of fame or celebrity, the most important thing is to create that solid foundation of self and self, love and self trust from within and, you know, to validate oneself. If you do that every single day, you won't need that outside validation.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Do you ever feel like ego creeps in with all your success and money and everything?
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Yeah. So I'm going to tell you something a little funny about what I do. My people in my community will totally get this. I kind of. I see that we actually see the world through two different lenses. We see the world through our human mind or our egoic mind. And some call it like the carnal mind. So this is living according to our five senses. So this was before 2019, before I had my awakening, when I connected to my oneness. I was living in that outlook of life. So I was manifesting from there. So only manifesting what I could see. That's it. Not manifesting from possibility or potentiality, but just a life that I saw others doing, thought was possible for me. So that's great. Now I have this other perspective, this spiritual outlook on life. This, some might call it a Christ consciousness or a source consciousness. Whatever language feels good for you. But this is seeing from outside the constructs of the egoic mind. So this is the soul's perspective or the higher spiritual perspective. So to manifest an experience you've never experienced before, you must come out of the egoic mind and move into the spiritual or the imagined mind. We know all creation starts where in the mind and the imagination. Everything. Everything in this room right now was an idea in someone's mind. Even this podcast, the name of it, you know, what you chose to wear today, Everything came from your mind and created this beautiful manifestation, which is this podcast. Great. The thing of it is, is that most people then go into the egoic mind, and while they're in the manifestation process and react to whether it's happening or not happening and how long it's taking, and they slow it right down. So if you can stay up in the spiritual perspective. And love is such a beautiful spiritual perspective, because love is God. So when you are in that loving perspective, you're in that oneness. You're living from the imagined state, not from the 3D observed state. That's where you will manifest the easiest, the quickest, and the effortless way. Not effort free or zero effort. Effort less. Less effort. So you still got to take action. So for me, I say that I'm in my spirit or I'm in my human.
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A
Got it.
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B
I'll make a joke. I'll be like, oh, Kathleen's inner human today. Because I know that I'm in my ego, which means I'm reacting. I'm getting my feelings hurt. I'm frustrated, I'm upset, and maybe I. For a moment, I am thinking, oh, okay, my followers are going up on Instagram. That must mean I'm worthy today, you know, so anything like that, for me, I'm like, oh, I'm in my human. So then I'm like, okay, now what I just need to do is move back up into that higher spiritual perspective. So the ego's not bad, it's not wrong. It's good. Ego really drives us. I. My. My business started from my ego. It started from Kathleen Cameron wanting a better life for herself and for her kids, which is great. But the ego gets us into trouble because we get attached to outcomes. So if the ego needs the money, the fame, the success, the relationships, the thin body to be worthy, to be valued, to be good enough, you're attached to the outcome. And that's where, for me, it's always like, I want to. I want to make sure that I'm not In my human, I want to make sure I'm up in my spirit and I'm connected to source. Yeah.
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A
What's that process? Is it a meditation to get to the spirit?
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B
Yeah. So I have a lot of different spiritual practices that I use to tap back into my spiritual perspective, but it all involves going within. So the outside observed world, it's very loud, and it can. It can get really, really loud in certain moments of your life. You know, there's a law of rhythm in life, so we always have to ride these waves. There's going to be good things that happen and bad things. So when the outside world is very, very loud and I feel my perspective shift to that carnal mind or that egoic mind, or I'm in my human, I'm like, okay, time to go back within. Time to ground to neutralize. I will meditate, I will visualize. I will go walk in nature. I. I work out three to four days a week now, so the gym has become a very spiritual thing for me as well. The other thing is music. I use music to connect me to my oneness.
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A
Really?
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B
Oh. Oh, yes. The right kind of music. I mean, you don't want to listen to some really dark music. But for me, there's. There's certain music that will connect me to my oneness almost immediately and remind me who and what I am. Oh, yeah.
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A
Send me that playlist.
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B
It's so funny. I have a God playlist, actually, that, like, my followers all are following, so I keep notifications when new people follow my playlist. I have a God playlist. And then I have a. I do have a spirit playlist, you know, and it just. It connects me back. And even my live events that I do, I always start with music, and we always end with a song because I want to solidify a feeling in somebody, you know, and that feeling that you're not alone, that feeling that you're supported, that feeling that you're confident that you're empowered, that feeling of love, that's a very real and true experience. And music will help you to solidify it, so journaling can do that too. Energy healings. I love sound bath healings.
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A
I've never done that. Oh, I just did Reiki last week, though.
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B
You must do a sound bath healing. It is so beautiful. I find that the vibration of the sound, it actually shakes up and disrupts the vibration of who you are. Whoa. And it. It really takes you on such a beautiful journey. I have sound bath healers in, like, four different cities.
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A
Dang. Do you have any in Vegas?
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B
I've never used one here.
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A
Okay, I'll look some up. I'll do it next week.
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B
Miami, California. Toronto. Malibu.
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A
Okay. Maybe Malibu. I'll be in la.
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B
Oh, I have a recommendation for one in Malibu for sure. It's incredible.
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A
Yeah, that's. I've been looking into frequency and vibration of sound. It's actually nuts. They used to use it in ancient, like, tribes and everything.
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B
Oh, yeah. And even, like, there's some healing frequencies that I will play, some grounding frequencies that I will play. Music is. Is a huge part of my journey.
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A
Huge, huge. But a lot of modern music is compromised now.
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B
But you know what? There is. I would say that. But there's also some. There's some genres now that are coming out that are really different. Like, conscious rap is so good. So you have rap artists now that are talking about awakened principles. They're talking about source energy. God.
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Oh, nice.
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Talking about empowerment. Absolutely love it. So, you know, we're shifting as a collective. We're awakening now. You're seeing music start to shift.
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A
I feel that too. Yeah. I'm sure when you go to events now, you're seeing more and more people, right?
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B
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the common thing. And even at Secret Knock, where you and I met, the common thing, people came, come up to me, and they say is, like, you just put into words a belief that I was starting to have that I couldn't explain, you know, and to. To see the world from a scientific lens, to now see the world from a spiritual lens, it's a massive shift. And, like, people are really, really starting to. To wake up to new ideas and new beliefs, and it's. It's really fun to watch.
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A
Yeah. In the American school system, they place a lot of emphasis on science. They make us take it every year. I'm not sure how Canada is, but.
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B
Same, same.
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That's why now it's like, oh, maybe there's another side that we should be looking into.
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B
Well, this is one thing people say to me all the time, Kathleen, what you teach has got to get into schools. And so we have a lot of parents that take my courses and programs, and they're teaching their kids these new principles. And even myself, like, I'm at a place where I want to take my kids out of school, because some of the stuff that they're learning, I'm like, this isn't, you know, to learn about, like, geography and to. To learn about, like, things like Shakespeare and stuff like that there's value. But I think that there's actually more valuable value in teaching emotional intelligence, Teaching how to change your beliefs and create new ones. I think there's so much to. So much to teaching our children about our imagination. Like, as kids, they play and they. They're creating when they're playing, but then when we become adults, we're like, oh, get it? Stop dreaming so big.
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A
Yeah.
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You know, and like, I'm in my imagination every single day. Like, I. I'm actually sitting here with you right now in a 3D observed world, but I'm a version of myself from a parallel reality that's sitting here with you right now. So I've tapped into this. This alternate experience that I desire to have, you know, another version of me. An elevated life, so to speak. And because I want this one to match that one, I show up as this version of me today, right now. So I'm observing that I look a certain way and I have a certain amount of money in my bank account, and I have certain friends and all that kind of stuff. But I know that that's. This here is the past.
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A
Interesting.
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B
So what I'm imagining right now is calling in a new future based on those assumptions.
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A
Wow.
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B
So, yeah, I live in an imagined state almost all the time, and then if I'm not, I switch back to it.
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A
That's fascinating. So infinite universes you believe in?
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B
I do, yeah. I don't believe in just one. It. The mind limits us to the capacity of what we can believe to be true.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so there are things that our mind can't see, can't understand, can't comprehend. And I'm now okay with that. I wasn't okay with that before. So I'd be like, well, you have to show it to me. Prove it to me. Give me the. The scientific rundown. Give me the evidence that I don't need anything to be proven now. And now I know that my life here, this human experience, this iteration, will be based off of what I believe. So I don't need to believe what you believe. I just need to believe what I want to believe that's going to create my life. So it's not somebody's truth. Like, I've stopped seeking the truth about life in the world, and I'm just formulating my own truth.
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A
Love it.
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B
My truth. And so my truth now creates in such magical ways and people in my community now and in my energy, and it's been like this for the past four and a half years. Magic happens when you start to create from the truth that you create. Within yourself and you change your entire human experience.
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A
Wow.
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B
It's fun to watch. Yeah.
- [35:07]
A
Yeah. I'm sure you've witnessed something. They would call it miracles, but for you it's normal.
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B
Expect miracles.
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A
Honestly.
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B
Like we have people that, oh my gosh, are curing cancer, curing chronic diseases, mental health. And one of the number one things we hear is people that have anxiety. And then through the power of this manifestation art form, they completely cure their anxiety and they're like at peace. Like, what more do we want? Right. Curing anxiety, phenomenal. But then we also have people that manifest outcomes like divorces or settlements in court cases, investments growing massively rapidly. People who social media followings will grow so fast because they change their identity. And then of course, people manifesting just insane amounts of wealth. Yeah, it is. It's one of the biggest parts of this is to understand that money is a spiritual idea. It's a frequency of vibration that you can match to. And when you come from a truly detached state, you can call in more money than you've ever thought you could experience at one time. I know you've experienced this yourself. So money isn't something that I need in order to make me worthy or valuable or to measure up or to live a great life. It's, it's a tool now that I get to use and I play around with manifesting more of it. And so we have people that have manifested millions and millions of dollars.
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A
Incredible.
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B
Aside from just me.
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A
Yeah. And that's why I love the mindset of it. Because you can use it in any way you want. Right. I use it in basketball to score more points. I use it in business. I use it in, you can use.
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B
It at the slots here in Vegas. Literally. I will use, use my mind to be like, okay, I'm going to keep winning. I'm going to keep winning.
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A
And it worked.
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B
Yeah. And then as soon as I let it go and I drop the I'm going to keep winning and I go to the. I hope I win, I lose it.
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A
That's crazy. Cuz I thought the slots were pre programmed to win, but you're.
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B
Oh no, no. I believe that my mind controls anything and everything. There is no limit to what my mind can do. One of the things I'm like so infamously good at, I'll call the spa and they're totally booked up for the day and I'll say, oh, okay, well when somebody calls to cancel their 1 o'clock massage, I'll take it. And the girl's like, huh, And I'm like, yeah, I'll take the 1 o'clock massage when they call to cancel. And then they're like, okay, crazy lady. And then they end up calling me back. So somebody just canceled their 1:00 massage. So we're gonna put you in.
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A
That's hilarious.
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B
Even my lash artist, you know, I would need to change my lash appointment. And she would be like. I would be like, oh, well, do you want me to do my magic to get it changed, or do you want to change it? She'd be like, no, let me change it. Because she kn. Like, if I wanted a different time, somebody will cancel in order for me to get that. That's how powerful I think my mind is.
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A
And that's where the magnet comes into play. Right? You can attract certain things that you want.
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B
Yeah, you. You can attract experiences. But I also think that what you. The reality that you desire, when that happens, when I set out a desire into the world. So I would love this. I would love that when I set that out and I vibrationally match it. So as soon as I say I want something, I know that I have it. Like, I don't say, I hope I have this, or I would like it, but I don't think so. I'm like, okay, so the fact that I want it, want it, means that I have it. So that's fine. So then I act like I have it. So from that acting like I have it placed, then it sets off a bridge of incidents. There's an unfolding, universal lines. This person meets this person who talks to this person and does this, and.
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A
Very interesting.
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B
And then when 95% of that has happened, which we can't see, then I start to observe it from the 95%.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I don't. I don't believe that you have to see a manifestation in order to know that it's there. I actually. And I made up this number. So people are like, well, Where'd you get 95%? Because it serves me to believe it. I believe 95% of our manifestations happen behind the scenes in the invisible plane. So what that means is, is all this work is happening that we can't see. So if you're going, well, where is it? I can't see it. You're messing all that up. You're actually no longer in that manifestation process. You're manifesting the lack of it. And now my phone does this hilarious thing. Since I made up this number and I talk about it. It's part of, like, my method. 95%. My Instagram, when I upload a story or a reel, it says 95% uploaded. Right. And so the reel doesn't go onto the Instagram until it's like 99%. So all of this work is happening that you can't see.
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A
Right.
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B
So I've just conditioned myself to believe that. So now I have patience. And I'll even say something like, oh, we must be at 93% by now, just so that I'm not getting all up in my head, like, looking for it and getting impatient and asking where it is.
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A
Yeah. Like you said earlier, a lot of people live in the five senses. Right. But there's actually over a hundred. They're finding out.
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B
Well, it's infinite, like, to the experience that we can have as humans. Like, even if you think about the possibility of, like, what else exists and at what level of intellect exists out there? Like, we might be at the lowest level. And so I just think about, like, well, okay, so if there could be other species on other planets that literally can, like, move this TV with their mind.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Is it gonna hurt me to try to do it? No. So I've been known to, like, try to do things like that.
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A
Love it.
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B
Seriously. Even. Even at the airport, this is something that I do all the time. There'll be, like, a huge customs lineup, and I'll just close my eyes and I'll visualize the line moving super, super fast. And I'll visualize thinking, oh, man, that was so quick. And it happens.
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A
Wow.
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B
Yeah. That's like, I make my lines move and stuff like that. This is the kind of stuff people think I'm totally crazy, but I live in a delusional state, and it is creating a pretty fantastic world for me. But the biggest thing that I will say, though, because I know a lot of people are going to ask this. It has to be for the greater good of all. So I'm not over here manifesting whatever Kathleen Cameron wants to appease her ego. Like, I'm over here manifesting things that help and serve the greater good of all. And so it's going to benefit my daughters. It's going to benefit my clients. So when I'm manifesting the line moving, I'm doing that for all of us so we all get through faster. Yeah.
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A
You can't be selfish with it.
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B
No, no. And there. There is some. Some parts of the manifestation process that do require you to be selfish. So when you're building the desire, like, asking, like, what do I want? Your human needs to. Needs to Know what's in it for me? Because our humans can get kind of lazy sometimes, and our humans can kind of go into this perspective of, like, it's too hard. I don't know enough. I'm not strong enough. This is, like, too much effort. They're not willing to do whatever it takes. But a human will move if there's a greater desire for some sort of attainment. If we think we're going to win in some way, we're more likely to do it. So from that higher spiritual perspective, I say, okay, what does Kathleen Cameron want? What's the desire she would love to have? What am I gonna plant in her mind that's going to get her moving?
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A
Yeah.
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B
That's going to get her doing more, and that's how I do that. So, yeah, there's a little bit of that selfishness, but overall, it's for the greater good.
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A
I love it. Do you believe in karma?
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B
I do. I do believe in karma, yes. I don't believe it necessarily in this lifetime. So I don't. I don't know that something that I did here that was inauthentic or lacked integrity is going to necessarily come back to me now. But I do believe in other iterations.
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A
Interesting.
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B
Yeah. So I also know that one of the greatest vibrations. And this is from. From my personal anecdotal evidence, the greatest vibration that I can experience that people tend to resonate with the most, that turns my magnet onto this powerful place is authenticity. So I aim to live an authentic life. And that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm, like, the most honest or trustworthy person. That's not what I mean. What I mean is living my living and being my most authentic self. And so that authenticity is so magnetic and so, so powerful.
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A
Y.
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B
So being authentic to me then means making sure that I'm treating other people in a really, really positive and genuine way. And if I don't love myself and I'm critical of myself and I'm being inauthentic, how am I gonna show up in the world with others 100% the same way? So I think it all just. It really just starts from within. So if I choose to energetically be as authentic and love myself as much as I can and have good intentions to help people, then I don't have to worry about karma. Yeah, I know. It's taken care of and everything's fine. So it's not something I ever, like, worry about. But I do think that it's. I do think it's there.
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A
Agreed. I Can relate to that. This year and last year have been the most authentic I've ever felt with the podcast. And more people are coming up to me than ever.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like it's not even close.
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B
Yeah. Because that, because you're. You're in such a relaxed natural state when you are just being yourself. You're not trying to say the right thing for this person or say the right thing for that person. And what does everybody want to experience? They want to experience that peace. Everybody wants. We're not seeking love from people outside of us. We're seeking love from within us. So when someone says I really love you, what's the next thought that you have? I love me. It's okay to be loved.
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A
I love that.
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B
So that's what we're truly seeking is that own self love and self validation. And so when you can just rest in who you are and know that it's good enough.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That truly is a powerful, powerful place. I actually on my. I have a. My second book is called the Best of Yourself and it's all about how manifestation is an inner transformative game. But on the back of that book, I wrote a perspective of what it's like to love yourself looking in the mirror every single day. Like, what if you look in the mirror and you see XYZ and you walk around feeling calm and relaxed, text and all this. And people say to me, holy. Like, that's what I want to experience. That that's the true fulfillment. Is that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And life just gets so much easier the more that you just authentically be you.
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A
Self love's so important. I just learned about the importance of it this year with some psychic sessions.
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B
Oh, with some psychics. I love that.
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A
Yeah. Because my dad didn't know he didn't have self love. So he didn't know how to love others. He didn't know how to love me and show it. So I was like, wow. That's why he didn't show it, because he didn't know how to love himself.
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B
And you know what's so beautiful about that? One of my favorite authors and I and I did a small one on one coaching container with him, Neil Donald Walsh from Conversations with God. He said to me, understanding replaces forgiveness in the mind of the master. So the spiritual master. And what's so cool about that is the lack of love that you receive from your father in your life. You don't need to forgive that, you just need to understand it. And that's what it sounds like you have now.
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A
Yeah.
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Is that understanding of like, oh, he just didn't know what he didn't know and just lived life from there. And so now the experience you're going to have from self love, the way in which you are going to serve other people in this world, the lessons they're going to learn from you is powerful. And the. The male perspective of self love is really cool, too. So I'm glad you're being, like, vulnerable about that. I had a gentleman in my community, and he said to me, kathleen, what it's. What's it like to love yourself? What does that feel like? And so I started talking about, like, my daughters and how much I love them and how special they are and how beautiful they are. And I was lit up and I said, that's how I feel about me. Right? And he goes, whoa. He said, you know what? I've never hated myself. So because I thought I didn't hate myself, that meant I loved myself. But he's like, now that you've given me that example, I can see that I was just complacent.
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A
Wow.
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B
So he didn't love himself. He just thought he was okay, you know? And there's a difference there. There's a very big difference. So I think there's an opportunity for all of us to start to turn the loving perspective that we so easily give to others, turn it around and put it onto ourselves. And, you know, you can't. You can't love yourself too much.
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A
Yeah, you can't. Yeah, there's a fine line. Do you see a lot of guys, males, struggle with love and expressing it, showing it and stuff?
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B
Yeah. So we actually have men's part of my program. We have an embodiment curriculum now that actually for men to manifest it, it is a little bit from a different experience because vibration is emotion. So men, historically, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of men historically, have been taught how to suppress emotion.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Don't show it. Don't talk about it. Don't be vulnerable. Be a man. You know, boys don't cry, things like that. And so from that place, men actually aren't tapping into their power. Like, my power center is my ability to be emotional.
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A
Right.
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B
My ability to cry and to get so happy and joyful and, like, to be able to express makes me so powerful. So for men, it's so, so important for us to allow them and give them a safe place, safe space to be emotional, to feel. And it's not weakness, it's strength. And when you. When you start to believe that, like, oh, so you're gonna. You're telling me, Kathleen, that I'm gonna make more money in my business. The more that I connect to my vulnerability, I'm like, yes.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, the more you connect to your emotional state and you regulate your emotional state and you allow yourself to feel, the more you will quantum leap your life. Yes. So you will not need to create in the hustle, the grind, the do the mechanics. You will start to use that source energy. You'll start to direct it through your emotional state, and you'll quantum leap your life.
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A
Love it.
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B
Do less, make more. Yeah.
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A
Kathleen, this has been such fun episode.
- [48:38]
B
Yeah.
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A
Where people find your events and your programs and everything.
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B
You know, the most people find me the most on my podcast, the Manifested podcast with Kathleen Cameron, which is on YouTube and on Instagram as well. I have a lot of people that follow me on Instagram. Kathleen Cameron manifests tons of free value. And then if you do want to dig a little bit deeper, we have our house manifestation community with over. I think we're over 700 people in that community now where people are manifesting together. So this is a different way of seeing the world. It's a different perspective. And when you have other people that are willing to have these conversations like this and get outside the box, you won't feel like you're so alone. So that togetherness, that oneness is. Is huge.
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A
Beautiful.
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B
Yeah.
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A
We'll link it below. Thanks for coming on.
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B
Thanks so much for having me.
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A
Yep. Thanks for watching, guys. Check out the links below. See you next time.