
One out of three people are chronically constipated—and most don’t even know it. In this episode, Marina Ortega Miraexplains why gut health starts with one simple question: Are you actually pooping enough? From holding waste for years… to parasite cleanses gone wrong… to mold exposure hiding in steam rooms… This conversation connects the dots between constipation, inflammation, acne, fatigue, mold toxicity, and modern diets—and why your detox pathways matter more than any cleanse. What You’ll Learn 💩 How often you should actually be pooping 🚨 Why constipation affects skin, energy, and inflammation 🧠 The gut–liver–lymphatic connection ☕ How coffee enemas support liver detox (and when NOT to use them) 🌿 Why detox pathways must be open before cleansing 🦠 The parasite + mold relationship most doctors miss 🧪 Why “organic” isn’t always regulated 💧 How hydration and minerals affect bowel movements 🔁 Why laxatives break your natural gut rhythm 🧘 How movement keeps your lympha...
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You know, I feel like the average person, even the regular pooper, can hold up to five pounds of poop.
B
Wow.
A
I mean, look at Elvis. I mean, he died with 32 pounds of poop. Holy crap, there's an autopsy report. It'll blow your mind. Just goes to show you how much people can really hold on to that is nuts.
B
What's the longest time you've seen someone go without pooping?
A
Client a couple months ago, and she walked in and she said, Marina, I'm pooping 10 days out of the month. And I said, how long has this been going on? She goes, this been going on for years. And she. She whips out her app and she goes, I got a little poop app. You want to see it? I said, wow, you're not joking, are you? She's like, no. I literally pooped 10 days out of the entire month. And I thought, wow, you know, we're dealing with some serious constipation issues.
B
Okay, guys, got a special episode for y'.
A
All.
B
We got the poop fairy in the building. Let's go. Marina, thanks for coming on.
A
Hey, I'm grateful and blessed to be here. Thank you so much for having me today.
B
Absolutely. I saw your clips on Alex's show, and I thought it was really interesting stuff. Yeah, I don't see too many people, like, opening up about this stuff.
A
You know, I think more people need to start talking about poop and bathroom habits, and I'm here today to really talk to people about that.
B
Yeah, a lot of shame around the topic. I myself was constipated for many years.
A
Oh, really?
B
Yeah, I was on Accutane, if you know what that is.
A
I do.
B
Yeah. And I think that might have caused it. Plus my diet combined. How often are you pooping these days? I'd say two to three times a day.
A
Oh, that's perfect.
B
Yeah.
A
Good. That's what you want.
B
But it used to be, like, one a day.
A
Oh, yeah. That's terrible.
B
Yeah. That's bad for you, right?
A
Yeah. What happens is, once you hold all that poop in, you start absorbing it, and then your face starts purging it. Hence the reason why people get breakouts and stuff, because I find that they're not pooping sometimes.
B
Wow.
A
So they're just so toxic. So their face is just purging it out.
B
So all these kids right now with acne, do you think a lot of that's a poop issue?
A
Oh, absolutely. No question.
B
Wow. Yeah, I never even, like, connected the dots on that.
A
Well, think about this. I mean, there's something called this, like, this foreign toilet syndrome, right? And it's like, I'm not going to poop unless it's in my house. Like, if it's not my toilet and if it's a foreign toilet, like, I'm not pooping. So we're finding that many kids, even at school, aren't pooping. Like, they'll wait eight hours, come home, and then finally poop. And think about that in one week. That's like eight times five. Like, these children and these teenagers and actually grown adults. I just had a conversation with a client, and mine's like, 48. He's like, I will not poop anywhere. I will only use my toilet. And thinking, wow, this is happening to kids as well.
B
Damn.
A
You know, maybe this is where constipation is coming from.
B
Could be. Could definitely be.
A
I mean, did you poop when you were in school?
B
I didn't like to, if I'm being honest. I. There's definitely days I like, held out.
A
For.
B
Sure. You too, right?
A
Oh, absolutely. That's where I think some of my constipation came from.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, like a little girl 30 years ago, I mean, nobody talked about poop.
B
Wow. Yeah. I used to have to put the thing on, whatever. That cover. Seat cover. Yeah. But sometimes they'd be out, and then I'd be like, yeah, I'm good.
A
Yep. And then you'd hold it.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Wow. I didn't know that could cause it, too. So that. That probably, like, contributed to what I was dealing with.
A
Well, yeah, you're just holding and holding it. Holding it. And then you miss that poop window. Right? Like, everyone's got that poop window. And if you miss it, it's like, dang it. You don't know when you're gonna get that urge to go again.
B
Damn.
A
Yeah.
B
So when did you start realizing it was a major issue?
A
The more I'm educating people on it, the more I'm talking about it. I mean, I've been in the industry talking about poop for the past 30 years. So I've seen it all, I've heard it all. And, you know, there's just so many people out there dealing with constipation. I mean, if you think about America alone, I mean, know, there's 35 million people, right? There's 110 million people that are dealing with chronic constipation. So I feel like this is, like, this national epidemic of chronic constipation that no one's talking about.
B
That's way More than I thought.
A
One in every. Well, one in every third.
B
Holy crap.
A
Right?
B
I thought I was, like, a rare thing happening to me. One out of three is pretty insane.
A
One out of three.
B
And is that mainly because of diet, you think?
A
Oh, I think it's a lot of different things. Right? I think it's. I think it's diet. I think it's the toxins, I think it's the Plastics, I think it's food. You know, all of that. It's just a combination, I think stress as well.
B
Yeah.
A
People walking around just so stressed out.
B
I feel that a lot of people use coffee to kind of alleviate it.
A
Right, yeah.
B
Is that a good fix or.
A
Hey, what have you got to do to poop? Like, let's do it right.
B
There's a coffee enema in here.
A
Yeah, exactly. So what have you got to do? It's like, you got to figure out a way to release that, because the more you keep holding it, the more you keep absorbing the same crap over and over. Right? So it's like day one, day two, you didn't poop. Day three, and it's just this toxic, like a suit, like a septic tank, just to build up, building up. Right. And then what happens? I mean, you've got to get it out.
B
How much poop is in the average body?
A
It just kind of depends on the person. It depends. Like, if I'm talking to the girl who hasn't pooped in 14 days or the guy who only poops once a week, it really depends. What I will say is that your colon is anywhere from five to six feet long. Right. And over time, you know, the. The poop gets, like, bolder, Clay. Like, hard, like, jammed up. So if you're dealing with constipation, you can hold a lot. You know, I feel like the average person, even the regular pooper, can hold up to five pounds of poop.
B
Wow.
A
I mean, look at Elvis. I mean, he died with 32 pounds of poop.
B
Holy crap.
A
There. There's an autopsy report. It'll blow your mind.
B
£32.
A
Just goes to show you how much people can really hold on to.
B
That is nuts. What's the longest time you've seen someone go without pooping?
A
I had a client a couple months ago, and she walked in and she said, Marina, I'm pooping 10 days out of the month. And I said, how long have this. How long has this been going on? She goes, it's been going on for years. And she goes. She whips out her app and she goes, I got a little poop app. You want to see it? I. I said, wow, you're not joking, are you? She's like, no. I literally pooped 10 days out of the entire month. And I thought, wow, you know, we're dealing with some serious constipation issues.
B
Yeah. That's one out of three days. Every three days she's gone.
A
Yeah.
B
Even though she's eating three times a day.
A
I bet that's right.
B
That's pretty crazy. Holy crap.
A
It's pretty serious out there. And that's why I want people to talk about it and get comfortable. Like, let's break this taboo of talking about pooping, constipation. You know, coffee enemas, castor oil packs. I mean, these are all natural remedies to help you go to the bathroom.
B
Yeah. Were you able to alleviate her. Her pain?
A
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I saw her two months later, and she's like, oh, my gosh. Sort of crying. She's like, I'm pooping every day now.
B
Wow.
A
We see that often. There's so many great success stories that we do see.
B
What was effective when it came to her? Was it the coffee enema? Was it the castor oil? Did you try everything?
A
Well, we started off with colonics, so she started with colonics, and then she started off with a distilled water enema at home. And she did the castor oil pack at home. And she did that nightly. The castor oil pack nightly. And then she did the coffee. Not the coffee. She did distilled water. When you're constipated, you don't want to do coffee enemas. What we want to do is use distilled water. So you could do a distilled water enema at home if you're dealing with constipation, because if you're backed up and not pooping, you don't want to do any cleanse at all. You don't want to do a parasite cleanse. You don't want to do anything, because if you do, you're just stirring everything up. Right. And your colon's, like, the main portal to, like, evacuate the poop.
B
Yeah.
A
So if you're not pooping, then everything's just going to kind of build up. You're going to reabsorb the toxins and really feel like crap.
B
That makes sense.
A
Yeah.
B
You mentioned parasite cleanses. Those are everywhere on social media right now.
A
Oh, it's like, viral.
B
Yeah. What do you think about those?
A
I think they're great. I mean, I've been doing them for 30 years. I think that I would say this. The one biggest thing that I wish everyone would talk about if you're selling a parasite cleanse or doing a parasite cleanse is educate yourself on opening up your detox pathways and drainage pathways. And what I mean by that is you want to be peeing and pooping and sweating before you even jump onto that parasite cleanse. Because if you don't, what's going to happen is your body's going to recirculate, right? Let's say I'm not pooping. Like the girl last week, she goes, I haven't pooped in 10 days and I'm on a parasite cleanse. And I'm thinking, why are you on a parasite cleanse if you're not pooping? You want to make sure drainage and detox pathways are completely open, right? Because if you do a parasite cleanse, you're going to reabsorb everything. The parasites are going to die off and the gas from it. You're going to have like a three month hard stomach. You're going to have flu like symptoms. You're going to, your body's going to hurt and you're going to feel horrible because you're just reabsorbing all those parasites that you just killed off. You see what I'm saying? Because you're not pooping, you're not, you're not expelling them, right? So that's the biggest thing. I don't care what type of cleanse it is. It's like you must be pooping if you're gonna do a cleanse. If not, just hold off. Save your money, don't even waste it.
B
That's good to know. Have you ever seen parasites come out of someone when you were treating them?
A
Oh yes, all the time.
B
Wow. Like a tapeworm or.
A
Oh yes. Yeah. When I was detoxing from mold, I would see parasites coming out like this long.
B
Holy crap. So you dealt with mold and it was related to parasites?
A
Oh yeah. Basically the majority of the time, if you have mold, like I have black mold in my lungs. And with that, unfortunately came parasites, right? So parasites love mold. They thrive off a mold. So the black mold was found in my lungs. So basically I decided, you know, I think what more people need to talk about is if you have black mold, at least in my case. And what we discovered was we needed to attack the parasites before the black mold and a lot of people aren't doing that. So if I can kill off all the parasites, because think about this, moldy terrain that I have, and they're just chomping away at it. Well, I. I've been parasite cleansing for well over a year, you know, trying to get rid of the parasites and dealing with the black mold. So as they're chomping away at this black mold and just thriving, I'm killing them. And as I kill them, they're popping, but they're popping black mold back into my system. So I can't even treat the black mold yet. I got to hold off on that, right?
B
Yeah.
A
Because if it's. You'll go in a vicious cycle trying to treat parasites first, kill everything, then treat the mold. Because if you're trying to treat the mold first, well, the parasites are just eating and popping and creating that mold back into your system. The die off.
B
Right.
A
So it's like, let's get the parasites under control, and then we'll focus on the black mold. And that's exactly what I did.
B
That's smart, because a lot of people struggle with mold for years, right?
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Oh, yes. Anywhere from two to seven years. I mean, when we were looking around for treatment for black mold, the doctors were saying, hey, it's going to be 90,000 cash, 50,000 cash. And by the way, there's no guarantee. And I'm like, wow. Looking at Steve, my husband, I'm like, this is crazy.
B
Yeah, that's a. Not many people can afford that. Let's be honest. That is nuts. Insurance, I bet, doesn't cover anything.
A
Zero.
B
Wow. 140,000 for mold. That doesn't even guarantee a fix.
A
Yep. So that's why we decided to go the alternative route. You know, I was very blessed and fortunate to own the wellness center. So I focused on colonics, ozone sauna, lymphatic drainage, and then, of course, with our trust your gut products, I was doing coffee. Several coffee enemas per week, castor oil packs, nightly drinking the anti parasitic tea. I was doing all of the things. So we kind of pieced together somewhat, at least. You know, I did a DIY do it yourself kind of mold protocol. And, you know, we tested six months into it, and my levels were halfway down.
B
Wow.
A
It was unbelievable.
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It was actually from a gym, a steam room. Oh, and we met with an environmental scientist. He actually came out because he tested our home. He tested the office. When you get exposed to mold, you have to figure out where the source is coming from. Right. And because if you're, if it's in your house and if you keep going back into your house, you're going to keep getting exposed to the mold.
B
Right.
A
So you're getting treatment. It's like, oh, you keep going back into it. So you have to kill and get rid of the source. Well, it wasn't in our office. It wasn't in our home. It was actually at a gym in a steam room. And when we were talking to the environmental scientists, he said, marina, steam rooms are notorious for black mold. And I thought, wow, I've never heard of that in my life. And I will say this. You know, I. I love to steam. You know, I love to be in a steam room. I'll never step foot in one again. But that's just me because of the black mold. I was inhaling that black mold. It was killing me. And if you have a steam room, I would say just make sure it's clean. Look around, you know, do you see anything? So that's what. I'll leave it at that.
B
I same. I used to love steam rooms daily. And then I stopped going in because not even that, but they use tap water.
A
Yeah.
B
So you're just inhaling tap water.
A
That's right.
B
And who knows what's in that?
A
Yeah. So all of those toxins are just being absorbed into your skin.
B
Yeah. And even in saunas, there could be mold swallows at lifetime. And they found black mold under the wooden saunas. Because if you don't clean it right, you know, it's easy for mold to fester there because people are sweating on the floor and then they're not cleaning it, you know, so you don't steam.
A
At all or you don't do any saunas?
B
I do saunas, but it has to be clean.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, so I bought one for the house.
A
Yeah, so do we. Actually, that helped with my mold protocol as well. We did. Well, I did an infrared sauna every. I still do every single morning. And then I'll cold plunge as well. That was part of the protocol and getting rid of the mold, and it worked.
B
Nice. And you said the ozone sauna, which is the hockey. Got it. Hockey. I need to try that out.
A
You do. When you come out to see us, we'll need to get you in that.
B
Yeah, I'd love to. Did you do the oxygen chamber, too?
A
I did the hyperbaric chamber.
B
The hyperbaric.
A
Yeah. That helped out tremendously as well.
B
Wow. I've hear a lot of good things about it. Yeah, I've done it a few times.
A
Yeah.
B
That's cool. Your place is in Scottsdale?
A
It is. It's right in Scottsdale.
B
Nice. I'm sure you're busier than ever right now.
A
We are so busy. It's a blessing. It's a great thing.
B
Yeah.
A
It's like, let's keep spreading the word, you know, let's keep helping people, you know, detox and get rid of all these toxins. Because we're exposed to thousands per day, you know, and it's like our liver is like the mothership, and she can only filter so fast. Right. The load of toxins. I mean, your blood circulates throughout your liver every four minutes. So it's like trying to clean your blood out every four minutes. So with the coffee enema, what's going on with the coffee and why it's so great? And I was using this throughout my detoxing protocol when I had mold because I needed to kind of baby my liver and take care of her. My liver enzymes got so high because they were pumping out black mold that I had to start really taking care of my liver. Right. The liver enzymes were so high. So with a coffee enema, what's happening is, you know, when you ingest coffee, right. Your nervous system kind of starts waking up. But when you're putting it in your rectum, the coffee, and you do want to make sure that it is coffee enema, not just regular coffee. There's two different types. Right. So what separates it is that the coffee that we have is USDA Organic.
B
Got it.
A
And it has palmitic acid in it. So think of it like super caffeine. So once you do your coffee enema, it's going to go through your rectum, kind of shoot through the heptic portal valve, and then it's going to dilate the bile ducts in your liver and it's going to think of it like almost dialysis, like open everything up and all the sludge, the bile. Think of it like a little dump truck. It just starts dumping, dumping stuff out. So the longer you can hold your coffee enema, usually 12 to 15 minutes if you can. It's like filtering that blood and cleaning it out. Is also increasing your glutathione, which is the master antioxidant, by 500 to 700%.
B
Holy crap.
A
Huge.
B
Yeah, I take it every day.
A
Yeah, I do, too.
B
Glutathione from Symbiotica. Wow. I need to try that.
A
Yeah. So this is for people that are super healthy or that are doing this for preventative or that are sick. I mean, I love coffee enemas or. But again, like, you know, you've got to be pooping and peeing before you start doing any kind of cleanse. Yeah, super important.
B
I did. Have you heard of pernuvo?
A
Yes.
B
Yeah. So I did pernuve. I had some liver issues. I don't know what it was from, but I need to look into this for sure.
A
Oh, coffee. You would benefit tremendously from coffee enemas.
B
Yeah, I think it was a mixture of stress, accutane damage and just my diet, who knows? But the livers are definitely under attack.
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Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Castor oil packs would be great for that as well. So what. What the benefit is with the castor oil is basically once you put castor oil, castor oil, first of all, if you're going to use it, make sure it's USDA organic. That's super important. The second thing is that it has rhinosilic acid in it. So think of it as a really fatty compound, like a rich, thick Omega 9. So once you put castor oil on your abdomen or your liver area, in your case, you do your liver right, and then you'll put the castor oil pack on it. I would suggest putting the heating pad on top of that because it's going to activate that. The. The rhinosilic acid, the fatty acid, and it's going to start penetrating into the tissues and into your lymphatic system, and it's going to start basically dilating the liver and the bile ducts to start Purging.
B
Wow.
A
Like, wake up, liver. Like, let's start moving stuff out, because over time, the liver will get super stagnant. Right?
B
Yeah. Castor oil, huh?
A
It's super powerful.
B
Is that in any food, or is that something you got to take?
A
Like, it's an oil, basically. Yeah. You can use it for beauty, like, to grow your hair, your nails. It's anti inflammatory, it's antimicrobial. There's so many benefits when it comes to castor oil, but I love it for liver detoxification, suffocation, and for constipation.
B
Got it.
A
Yep.
B
Does the shape of the poop and the color matter?
A
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. There's definitely a report card when it comes to poop. For sure. Yeah.
B
Where would you say people are grading on that, on average?
A
I would say right now, now more than ever, we are seeing people that are extremely dehydrated. So they are pooping very little. And they're pooping out little rabbit turds. Like little deer turds.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
And it's just like these little balls are coming out of them, and they're not getting much. They're not taking a full bowel movement. They're chronically dehydrated. They'll even say, yeah, I'm not drinking that much water.
B
Damn.
A
So they should be longer, like, smooth like a banana.
B
Okay. What about just one huge one?
A
I think that's great. Yeah. I mean, that's great. That's even a plus.
B
I got a vivid memory of my brother when I was a kid. I walk in the bathroom, he didn't flush. That shit took up the whole thing. I was like, is that normal?
A
That's ideal. Good for him.
B
Oh, so you're supposed to just have one long one.
A
I mean, if he has a long one, that's great. Wow.
B
Yeah. Okay.
A
Yeah, I'd say that's good. That's good.
B
So the longer the better. Okay. Yeah, that's good to know. Yeah. I've definitely had, like, this. The pellets before.
A
Yeah. And when you see those, that's a sign. Like, wow. I need to increase my electrolytes, my minerals, my water intake. Because the more hydrated that you are, the more poop that you're going to see.
B
Good to know. I take electrolytes daily because you live in Arizona, so you know how it is. It's really hot these days.
A
Yeah.
B
Especially in the summer.
A
And you want to make sure to take minerals as well.
B
What kind?
A
Like, I love the brand beam.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah. They've got this humic and Fulvic. There's technology. It's unbelievable.
B
I heard of them. Yeah. Put a salt in my water, too.
A
That's perfect. Yeah.
B
Yeah. I need to start taking beam, though. I'll write that down.
A
But it's as simple as even putting, like, you know, if you can't afford electrolytes, which a lot of people can't, they're expensive. You could put like a pinch of Himalayan salt into your water, and that has 72 natural minerals in it.
B
Wow.
A
So, you know, just throw it into water, chug it, and there you go.
B
Is it pretty expensive to get treatment at your facility?
A
No, I think it's. On average, I think it's very affordable. I think it. I mean, what's expensive?
B
You know, it's relative. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
I guess if they went to a Western doctor, compared to you, I would say. How would you compare those pricings?
A
I would say ours is out of pocket. We do take HSA and fsa, so, you know, if you have that plan, we do take it. But, like, regular insurance is not going to cover it at this time.
B
Makes sense.
A
We hope to see it.
B
Yeah, they. Yeah, makes sense why they wouldn't cover that. You're healing people.
A
That's right. Yeah. I mean, we're helping suck all these toxins out of people. Right. We're helping people detox. We're helping people be healthy again and feeling better. And again, it's not just for sick people or if you're detoxing from mold. It's for longevity. Some people, we have a lot of professional athletes, people are focused on anti aging.
B
Yeah.
A
It's just a beautiful thing that we've got going on.
B
I'm sure this helps with inflammation, too.
A
Oh, yes. Yeah. I have a gene where I have high inflammation. So the colon hydrotherapy, the ozone sauna, the. The lymphatic drainage, all of that is like night and day. Game changer. After I do the entire detox circuit, I'm like, wow.
B
I got my lymphs manually drained by some massage expert and I felt incredible.
A
Good.
B
I couldn't believe what it felt like to be normal.
A
Well, that's our drainage system. Right. Like, so here's something that's interesting. We have, you know, four to six liters of blood. Our lymphatic system is double that. So think about that. So your lymphatic system is like this freeway system, right. Traveling and dumping out all the toxins. And you've got these different lymph nodes where it's like cleaning it out. And if you're sitting stagnant all day long, the inflammation will build up, the toxins will build up. It's like the lymphatic system, like your heart, it doesn't have a pump, so you have to manually move and. And get it going. Right. So any kind of rebounding, walking exercise that's like a pump, it's going to keep everything going and flowing and moving. If it gets real stagnant and you're sitting around all day, inflammation starts happening. Right. Just kind of sitting there with all your toxins, not doing much.
B
And that's a lot of people, right?
A
Oh, yes.
B
Just sitting around all day, nine to five, sitting on a desk.
A
And then they're like, I feel so inflamed. I'm tired. You know, my feet hurt. And I understand, you know, but I would say, you know, you can do some free things here. And that is, you know, take a walk at some point in the day. Even on a lunch break.
B
Yeah.
A
Be helpful to get things moving.
B
You walk 10,000 steps a day?
A
I try to.
B
It's hard these days.
A
It is, yeah. It can be.
B
Yeah. I'm at like, 6,000, and I need to step it up, but I just get so ingrained in work.
A
Yeah, so do I. And it's that 80, 20 rule. It's like, give yourself some grace. You know, I always remind myself, I'm like, just give yourself some grace. You know, you didn't get the steps in. You'll do it tomorrow.
B
Yeah. Make up for it. Were you a professor before all this?
A
I was, yeah.
B
What were you teaching?
A
Business, law ethics.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah.
B
Big change, huh?
A
I went from grading papers and essays to, like, grading and talking about poop and constipation. Coffee enemas.
B
Well, I'm sure it's helping you run the business at least.
A
Yeah, I mean, I'm all about education. I mean, you know, that's why we created trust your gut, because we wanted to provide more education around constipation and to help people again. I mean, 110 million Americans are dealing with constipation. I'm like, am I the only one talking about poop? Like, let's get out there and spread the word. Because it's like people feel like, oh, sh. We're not supposed to talk about it, or it's a bad thing. And I think we really need to break that norm because people are getting sick 100%. You know, they're hanging on to all that poop and toxins, and your body gets, you know, like, acidic. And the pH balance is off. And with that comes bad things. Yeah, bad things start happening for sure.
B
So if just a regular person goes to their doctor and they say they're constipated, are they getting put on laxatives? Like, what's the typical procedure for that?
A
Yeah, and that's. That's another thing. We see a lot of people that are addicted to laxatives. We're talking like 20 to 30 to 40 years. People are like, yeah, I'm still on laxatives, Marina. It's been like 40 years or 30 years.
B
Wow.
A
Wow. So they're. They're going to their doctor. You're right. They're going to their doctor. They're. They're getting the laxatives, and now they become addicted. So it's like, you know, it's one of those things on. Does big pharma really care?
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, they're making a lot of money because they know that you. You have to rely on that and take that every day. And this is like synthetic, right? These laxatives are synthetic. They're not great for you at all.
B
Yeah. So I'd imagine it's tough getting off them. I'd imagine there's withdrawal and you can't eat normally anymore. Right.
A
Well, after a while, it breaks. That peristalsis, that wave, like motion where I have a poop window at 7am I like, oh, I gotta go. It's because my peristalsis has kicked in. Right. And over time, if you abuse a laxatives, you just don't even get that peristalsis feeling. Like. Like a lot of people are like, I don't ever feel like I have to poop. I'm like, you don't feel like. I never feel like I have to poop anymore. That's crazy. You got a serious problem.
B
Yeah. Because if you don't know, you got to go. You probably have to go at some point and then.
A
But they just lose that urge, that peristalsis, because they've taken so many laxatives.
B
Wow, that's scary. So they're just going on the toilet randomly? They don't know if they have to go.
A
Yeah. If even. Yeah, I mean, they're. They're barely going. That's what I'm saying. That's. That's a problem we've got going on out there.
B
Yeah. That's nuts. Should you be going at the same time every day? For the most part.
A
I mean, I do. I mean, I don't know. You know, everyone's got their own bathroom habits. And, and poop windows. But mine is definitely between like 6am and 7am it just is. You know, sometimes they'll go throughout the day, obviously, because, you know every time you have a meal you want to be pooping. Right. So it kind of depends on when you're eating as well.
B
Yeah. So what do you think about. Yeah, what do you think about fasting for like fixing your gut health issues?
A
I think fasting is great. I think elimination is great. You know, when I was detoxing from mold, I would fast all the way up until about 11 o' clock and then I would have a fresh, fresh squeezed juice because I wanted all those, those enzymes. Right. My body was so suppressed from the mold. Like my immune system was just like do. My little army was not where it needed to be because the black mold was taking over. So I was fasting and then I have a fresh juice. Juice. And then that evening I would have something warm, like a warm meal. So I was trying to create space and I was trying to eliminate this mold. Like get it out. How fast can I get it out of me? So fasting definitely helped. Juicing helped. Changing my diet helped. Yeah.
B
What about, there's a big prebiotic wave now, all these drinks coming out. Do you think that's legit or do you think that's a fad? What do you think about that?
A
I don't know. I would say I think it's great, but I don't know. What is the percentage is what I want to know. What is the percentage of prebiotic that, that are in these drinks?
B
Right.
A
That's my question. Right. And I have a feeling it's a very, very small percentage. And is that really going to make a difference? I don't know.
B
It probably is a low percent, to be honest.
A
I mean, it sounds great because it's.
B
Expensive, I'd imagine to put a lot of those in there.
A
I would imagine too. It sounds great. I'm on board for it. But at the end of the day it's like, well, let's really take a look at the ingredients. And is it really a small percentage? And you're right, it's expensive.
B
Yeah. You know, I used to love kombucha and then I was like, wait, they had 20 grams of sugar, like with. Right. What the hell is that?
A
You know, that's a lot of sugar. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, what we're seeing right now is just, we're seeing a lot of greenwashing, we're seeing a lot of price gouging with a lot of the products out there. And that's one of the reasons why we created trust your gut. We wanted to create high quality, affordable products so it can be like, in every household. Right. I mean, it's the product. Like our castor oil pack, people are selling it for triple or quadruple the amount. And I'm like, this is crazy. Their castor oil is organic. Well, what does organic mean?
B
Yeah.
A
You know, and what is the quality? What is the regulation behind it? So we were really proud that all of our products are USDA organic. That was super important. You need that quality assurance.
B
Right.
A
You know, people are like, it's like, this is organic or this is USD organic. Right.
B
There's a difference.
A
A huge difference.
B
So what is that difference, actually? USDA organic versus just like, organic.
A
So you and I can make a product today and we can just say it's organic. We can say it's vegan free. I mean, it's not regulated. I mean, we can make it right, you know, in our. In our garage right now, and we can just put it out there on the market when it's USDA organic. It's a very long process. There's a lot of paperwork. There's a lot of rules. They come out and do, you know, four to six hours of inspection. There's a lot of quality assurance that goes along with a lot of paperwork, a lot of signing off. Took us well over a year.
B
Holy crap.
A
To go through the process, but we're proud of it because I'm so sick of the greenwashing. When I say greenwashing, it's like you and I create a product and we say, oh, it's organic. What does that mean? And I don't think people really understand what that means. I think they think, oh, that's super healthy. It says it's organic. And that's not quite the case.
B
That's how I used to think. But these days, you really got to read everything. Right. You got to see if it's third party tested, see. See who's backing this. What studies are done on it.
A
Yeah. With our coffee. And I mean, it was important to have it mold tested. You know, a lot of coffee has mold. So, you know, obviously I dealt with mold, so I'm like, let's third party test it, make sure it's mold free. So, yeah.
B
Yeah. You'd be surprised how many coffees have molded. It is alarming how that's on the market.
A
Yeah. And people aren't educated, I would say. So. I love that you're educating People on all of these topics, you know, I'm trying to do the same as well. I think it's just a lack of education. I think that if they knew the difference between organic and USD organic, they would think differently. And it's wild because people are selling these organic products like, like they're price gouging.
B
Yeah.
A
I know what it costs to make it and I'm like, wow. I mean, we're dealing with a sick culture. Let's help these people. Let's make it affordable. You know, I love that people want to be healthy.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, I'm really passionate about keeping the price down, making it affordable.
B
Respect. So you got the physical spot, but you also sell all this stuff online, the trust, your gut stuff.
A
We do, yeah. We sell everything online.
B
Nice. What's, what are the best sellers right now for you?
A
I would say the castor oil pack is probably one of the best sellers. The coffee enema kits, both of them are, are doing very well. And our anti parasitic teas.
B
Yeah, can't wait to try the tea.
A
I know you're going to love it.
B
The coffee enema. So you could just do that at home? Like you don't need a doctor to do that for you?
A
No, you can do it at home.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah. I've been doing coffee enemas for, I don't know, 25, 30 years. And again, it's great for your liver. So I'm excited for you to try it as well as a castor oil pack. But the coffee enema, you'll do it at home. I have instructions. If you go to TrustYourGut. I'm sorry? If you go to TrustYourGut shop, we have an educational page and I'm actually showing you, I'm in my bathroom walking you through. Okay. This is how you set it up. And, and this is how you do your coffee enema. But yes, you'll do the coffee enema in your home, in your bathroom. There's a very step by step process, I would say definitely read the directions prior to doing one. And with the coffee enema, basically what's happening is, you know, you are holding the coffee, you know, you're holding the, you're putting it through your rectum and holding it. And then you'll get, then you'll get up and then go to the toilet and then you'll poop. So, and then you'll go back down, maybe, you know, get some more coffee, insert it, get some more coffee, fill up, hold it for a couple minutes and then you'll get up, go to the toilet, and then you'll poop. Oh.
B
So you have to go right away.
A
Yeah. But again, you want to try to hold the coffee for anywhere from 12 to 15 minutes, ideally.
B
Wow.
A
But I always tell people, just graduate up to it. As a matter of fact, if you're interested in doing an enema, start off with. With a. With a distilled water enema. Right. And then graduate up to it. Therefore, you're comfortable, you kind of understand what's going on, how to do your setup, and then graduate up to animal. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
A
And then people are like, I can't. I can only hold it for five minutes. I'm like, give yourself some grace and celebrate that. Yeah, you know you can. And then maybe next time it's 8 minutes. Maybe next time it's 10 minutes.
B
Gotta start somewhere.
A
Yeah, you gotta start somewhere.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
My friend got a colonic. He said it hurt. Yeah.
A
Who did he go to?
B
No idea. But he was very constipated for years, so I don't know if it hurt because of that or, like, the actual colonic itself, but it did scare me. I'm not gonna lie.
A
Yeah. Colonic should not hurt.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah, they shouldn't.
B
Maybe he went to the wrong spot.
A
I don't know.
B
So it should just be smooth sailing.
A
Yeah. It shouldn't hurt at all whatsoever.
B
Okay.
A
You might have a couple gas cramps throughout the colonic, but that's normal. And that would go right right away. But when someone says it hurts, I'm like, it shouldn't hurt.
B
Yeah. So maybe he went somewhere weird.
A
I don't know.
B
Nevada is not known for the best health care. I'll just say that, you know, we're not up there in that department.
A
Well, when you come see us, you'll come get a colonic. You can do the hawket. The ozone sauna.
B
Cool. Yeah, let's do it. What are some crazy testimonials? You got any crazy stories of healing journeys?
A
Oh, I don't know. I mean, like, I said. Well, I mean, there was a guy that came in. He was modeling for us and doing some stuff for us on a campaign. And I said, hey, how often do you poop? And he goes, I poop every four days. And I go, okay, Carson. And he looked at me and he goes, is that not normal? And I go, no, that's not normal. He goes, are you serious? And he was dead serious.
B
Wow.
A
He goes, I seriously, for my whole life, like, I've been Pooping, like, once every four days. I thought that was normal. He goes, no one ever asked me about this, Marina. No one's ever talked me about this. Like, he said, you wouldn't even believe it. On my ig, all the themes that are coming up. You think it's like a chick. Because he's, like, trying to investigate on how can he, you know, how can he poop? You know, who can help him? So he said, like, his whole Instagram feed is like, talking about constipation. Poop. And it was quite interesting because I thought, how many people think it's normal to not poop?
B
Probably a lot. Cuz like you said, no one really talks about it. Not even in health class. I don't remember it being discussed growing up. My parents never brought it up.
A
No, same.
B
Yeah. A lot of shame around it, right?
A
Yeah, there is. And people, it's like that dirty little secret. Like, they don't know who to talk to. They don't want to talk to their boyfriend about it. Women are going on vacation for 12 to 14 days. They're not pooping. Pooping the entire time.
B
I saw that. Women do that.
A
I don't know why.
B
Yeah, they said they can't poop in front of their boyfriend or whatever.
A
Yeah. Oh, that's very common. We hear that all the time.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, we do.
B
That's weird.
A
Yeah. And a lot. The thing that blows me away is when I always ask someone, you know, when was the last time you pooped? And they'll say, I don't remember. And I'm thinking, you don't remember the last time you pooped.
B
Wow.
A
Like, we hear that all the time.
B
That is nuts.
A
It's scary. It's. It's unhealthy. It's. It's not. We need to talk about it, you know? Yeah.
B
You do treatment on dogs, too. I know. We both love dogs.
A
No, I don't do treatments on dogs.
B
Okay. Because they're probably the food they're eating. They're probably dealing with some constipation too.
A
Yeah.
B
You know?
A
Yeah. No, we only do humans, and you should only do humans when it comes to colon hydrotherapy. But no, I think dogs get constipated. I think it's legit. And Steve and I were just talking about that. I'm like, you know, we talk about Carlos, our golden retriever. We talk about his poop schedule. Like, did he poop? You know, we're very interested. You know, make sure he gets his morning poop and his night poop. I mean, because if not, then we have an issue. Right.
B
Yeah. No, it's good to. Good health monitor. Right?
A
Yeah.
B
You could tell a lot, I feel like, about someone if they're not pooping on a good schedule.
A
Yeah. We could tell a lot about your dog, right?
B
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I check his poop all the time because he's allergic to everything, so.
A
Oh, is he sensitive to stomach?
B
Chicken and palm trees and we got like 30 of them at the house, so. Bad allergies. I feel awful for him. He's always scratching, you know.
A
Yeah. Have you tried putting him on a binder?
B
I need to. I haven't. You think?
A
I'll give you some recommendations. Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah.
B
Little binder to. Is it like a pill or is it a.
A
It's like almost like a little activated charcoal, basically. Like once you ingest it, basically all the heavy metals and toxins cling to it.
B
Yeah.
A
And then you'll. It kind of helps pull out all the bad stuff, so.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, we can talk about that. That could be helpful. I don't know. What do I know?
B
Yeah, we'll say, well, this has been great. What do you got coming next? Where can people find you, support you and keep up with you?
A
You can find us@scott styrotherapy.com and then you can find our company, Trust your gut at trustyourgut Short Shop. And you can get all of our products there.
B
Perfect. Check them out, guys. Stay tuned. On my Instagram. I'm going to try some of these out and post them and give you my experience.
A
Yeah.
B
Thanks for the gifts. Yeah.
A
Thanks for having us.
B
Yeah. Check them out, guys. Peace. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you.
Guest: Marina Ortega
Host: Sean Kelly
Date: January 15, 2026
Title: "Your Acne, Fatigue, and Inflammation Might Be a Poop Problem"
This candid episode dives deep into gut health, chronic constipation, detoxification, and why our bathroom habits affect much more than we think—including skin health, inflammation, fatigue, and overall well-being. Marina Ortega, affectionately dubbed "the poop fairy," brings nearly 30 years of experience to bust taboos around digestive struggles, explore causes and real-world solutions, and explain how overlooked gut issues are truly epidemic. The discussion ranges from specific remedies like colonics, coffee enemas, and castor oil packs, to larger lifestyle factors and the surprising links between our bowels and issues like acne, mold toxicity, and even emotional health.
Constipation Protocols:
Parasite Cleanses:
On the impact of gut stasis:
“People are hanging on to all that poop and toxins...your body gets acidic, and with that comes bad things.” —Marina (21:15)
On missed ‘poop windows’:
“Everyone’s got that poop window. And if you miss it, you don’t know when you’re going to get that urge to go again.” —Marina (02:49)
On the hidden epidemic:
“110 million people...this is like a national epidemic of chronic constipation that no one's talking about.” —Marina (03:02)
On parasites and cleanses:
"If you’re not pooping, don’t do a parasite cleanse...You’ll reabsorb all those parasites you just killed off." —Marina (07:21)
On coffee enemas:
“Once you do your coffee enema...think of it like almost dialysis, like open everything up and all the sludge, the bile, just start dumping stuff out.” —Marina (14:23)
On shame and silence:
“Women are going on vacation for 12 to 14 days, not pooping...they can’t poop in front of their boyfriend.” —Marina (31:03)
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:03 | Elvis' autopsy and how much waste we hold | | 01:03 | The shame/guilt around discussing poop | | 01:30 | How holding in waste leads to acne and toxins | | 01:48 | 'Foreign toilet syndrome' and school-age constipation | | 03:02 | Constipation as a national epidemic | | 05:38 | Natural remedies: colonics, enemas, castor oil packs | | 06:42 | Parasite cleanse dangers if not pooping regularly | | 08:02 | Connection between mold and parasites | | 09:40 | Alternative healing for mold exposure | | 11:23 | Source of mold: steam room at gym | | 14:23 | Coffee enemas: mechanism and benefits | | 15:38 | Castor oil packs for detox/constipation | | 16:52 | What healthy poop looks like; dehydration signs | | 18:13 | Affordable hydration/electrolyte solutions | | 21:51 | Dangers and dependency of chronic laxative use | | 19:39 | Importance of lymphatic drainage and movement | | 25:36 | Difference between “organic” and “USDA Organic” | | 28:36 | Step-by-step on doing coffee enemas at home | | 30:00 | Success stories/testimonials—how common constipation is | | 31:03 | Societal (esp. female) shame around pooping |
Lighthearted, candid, evidence-based yet “unfiltered,” seeking to break taboos and impart practical, actionable insights with empathy and clarity. Both host and guest are open about personal struggles, which reinforces the “real talk” mission of the show.
This conversation is a must-listen (or read!) for anyone who has struggled with acne, fatigue, mystery inflammation, or “bathroom issues”—and for those looking for down-to-earth, practical health wisdom that often goes unsaid. Marina Ortega pulls back the curtain on what’s really happening in our guts and why the first solution often starts with honest conversation and a willingness to address root causes—not just symptoms.
To learn more or try the discussed remedies, see trustyourgut.shop and scottsdaletherapy.com.