Digital Social Hour, Episode DSH #1495

Guests: Maverick Bailey & Devon True
Host: Sean Kelly
Main Theme: "Are We Living in a Live Simulation?" – exploring conspiracy, coincidence, hidden power structures, simulation theory, media manipulation, and the dark side of pop culture.

Episode Overview

Sean Kelly sits down with Maverick Bailey and Devon True for a riveting, no-holds-barred conversation that dives into the world of conspiracy, perceived simulation, numerology, hidden connections in Hollywood and politics, media manipulation, and the questionable influence of tech billionaires. Throughout the discussion, the trio weaves together current events, historical oddities, numerology, and references to pop culture to build a provocative narrative suggesting hidden forces operate behind the scenes of global events – possibly even outside the human realm.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Technical Issues and Surveillance Paranoia

• Technical glitches frequently occur when Maverick visits, sparking banter about possible electronic interference.
  • “So I'm the only one that comes here and we have technical difficulties.” – Maverick (00:51)
• Remote electronic manipulation: Speculation that intelligence agencies can interfere with electronics. Maverick claims ex-CIA contacts confirmed recruitment tactics and mind control tech patents.
  • “They have a patent… to control you through electromagnetic fields and it shocks your nervous system.” – Maverick (02:11)

2. The 201 Code and Celebrity Deaths

• Maverick presents a deep-dive into alleged numerology around celebrity deaths (Ozzy Osbourne, Hulk Hogan, Malcolm Jamal Warner), connecting ages, area codes, and TV episodes to the number 201 – referencing “Event 201,” a real pandemic simulation.
  • "What's 71 plus 76 plus 54? 201.” – Maverick (04:27)
  • “Malcolm Jamal Warner, Cosby Show, 8 seasons, 201 episodes… Jersey City, area code 201.” – Maverick (05:04–05:32)
• Discussion of “Detachment 201”: Claims that big tech executives (e.g., Peter Thiel) are now also military rank holders.
  • “These tech executives are ranking members of the US military now… Why are they using this code?” – Maverick (06:21)

3. Simulation Theory and Numerology

• Lively debate on simulation theory: Are "codes" like 201 evidence we're in a controlled or simulated reality?
  • “I think a lot of stuff can be explained by numbers.” – Co-host Sean (09:57)
  • “Are we in a highly advanced simulation?” – Maverick (10:32)
  • Reference to error-correcting codes (James Gates Jr.), string theory, and the structure of reality through numbers.

4. Time Travel, Predictive Programming, and The Simpsons

• Ingersoll Lockwood’s Barron Trump books: Suggests a century-old prediction of Trump’s presidency and family.
  • “Barron Trump is a character…His mentor’s name is Don.” – Maverick (11:53)
• Nikola Tesla and Project Looking Glass: Claims of hidden time-manipulating tech in history.
• The Simpsons, Matt Groening, and Freemasonry: The show’s long streak of "predictions" discussed as evidence of behind-the-scenes knowledge/tech.
  • “How is it that the Simpsons predict everything…?” – Maverick (14:16)

5. Antarctica, Nazis, and Hidden Histories

• Hitler’s alleged survival and Nazi relocation to South America and Antarctica (“New Schwabenland”) theorized, including claims of CIA evidence and Nazi settlements.
  • “There's declassified CIA documents showing that he didn't die.” – Maverick (16:10)
• Paranormal research and parallel universes found in Antarctica referenced.
  • “They found…a parallel universe that runs backwards in time in Antarctica.” – Maverick (15:22)

6. The Obama Conspiracies

• Obama’s citizenship challenged, with claims of doctored birth certificates and ties to shadowy global figures.
  • “Obama… he was never really president…not even a citizen of this United States.” – Maverick (18:03)
• Michelle Obama’s identity and the “Big Mike” internet rumor are discussed.
• Allegations that Obama was a “distraction,” and hints at “shadow government” power above presidents.

7. Epstein, Diddy, and Elite Networks

• Complex links drawn between political and celebrity legal cases (Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Diddy, etc.), with repeated assertion of cover-ups, missing evidence, and elite protection via compromised officials.
  • “How is it that the lead prosecutor, Maureen Comey, was also…for Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein?” – Maverick (45:42)
• Ties between Diddy’s case and Epstein’s, suggesting overlapping networks of blackmail and trafficking, and mysterious deaths (Virginia Giuffre, Epstein’s associates).

8. Media Manipulation & AI

• AI bias and narrative control: The group claims AI (OpenAI, ChatGPT) is limiting inquiry into scandals like Epstein’s as part of a manipulation strategy.
  • “These AIs are actually biased…they’re trying to stop the Great Awakening.” – Devon (24:12)
• The Mandela Effect and CERN: Theory that the “Mandela Effect” (collective false memories) is caused by CERN and/or manipulation of reality.

9. Frequencies, Mind Control, and Content

• The hosts and guests speculate frequencies from phones, streaming audio, and even movies (e.g., “Leave the World Behind”, produced by Obama) are used for control or manipulation.
  • “I think they're using these platforms for frequencies.” – Maverick (27:19)
• Rap music and hip-hop: Claims industry is infiltrated for social control, particularly through entities like Roc Nation, with specific stories about blackballing, handlers, and Jay-Z's business practices.
  • "Roc Nation is connected to the U.S. Government, the three-letter agencies.” – Maverick (29:24)

10. Controlled Narratives, Blackballing, and the “Fall of Hollywood”

• Personal stories of being “blackballed” from the music industry by powerful gatekeepers.
  • Devon reveals an email from a former Roc Nation exec: “Consider yourself blackballed from the music industry…” (36:47)
• The shift to new media, with old platforms and labels declining in influence.
  • “Hollywood is falling right now…There’s a great awakening.” – Devon (37:07)

11. Manufactured Artists & Mind Control Tropes

• Belief that music industry “plants,” artists with changed personas (e.g., Sexy Red), and even mass shooters display mind control evidence (e.g., dyed hair).
• Pop culture and the normalization of “OnlyFans retirements,” corruption, and moral decay.

12. Blackmail Tactics and Character Assassination

• Allegations that major lawsuits, settlements, and accusations in sports and entertainment (Shannon Sharpe, Drake, Michael Jackson) are deliberate tactics to control, blackmail, or devalue stars before deals.
  • "This is the same tactic they used on Michael Jackson…” – Maverick (41:30)

13. Food Supply, Organ Trafficking, and “Ghost Cities”

• Conspiracies about human DNA found in fast food, China’s involvement in food and water supplies, and ghost cities.
  • “Can you tell me why…fast food...there’s human DNA?” – Maverick (59:49)
• China’s farmland, water rights, and highway purchases in the US speculated to be precursors to further subversion of American resources.

14. The Deep State, Galactic Federation, and “Interdimensional” Control

• Attempts to trace the “deep state” to specific actors, though the conversation ultimately speculates on demonic or intergalactic/interdimensional controllers.
  • “I think it goes spiritual and intergalactical.” – Devon (64:59)
  • Reference to the “Galactic Federation” and the movie "They Live" predicting alien control by 2025.
  • “He said by the year 2025…we have taken over everything.” – Maverick (67:06)

15. Pop Culture, Numerology, and Predictive Programming

• Crypto in The Matrix (XRP) and movies like Sneakers alleged to show predictive programming for financial systems.
  • "The logo…is the XRP logo we see today." – Maverick (67:26)
• Labubu dolls, Annabelle, and numerology (the power of the number 9).
  • “Nine is the divine nine. It’s actually the last number. So anything else is just a combination of that.” – Maverick (70:51)
• Trader Joe’s and food recalls: Claims of fake food, “non-biodegradable” items, and toxic "organic" marketing.
  • “Trader Joe’s has fake food. Literal rocks…in their falafel.” – Devon (71:17–71:32)

16. Tech Billionaires' Ubiquitous Power & Synthetic Content Creators

• Overview of Bill Gates’ and Jeff Bezos’ (via DARPA family ties) investments across tech, food, health, and media.
  • “Why is a man, that is a computer…in our food supply?” – Maverick (72:49)
• Walmart entering the podcast/content space: Fears about the manufacturing of synthetic influencers/creators.
  • “They have limitless money…you don’t think we’re going to see some synthetic created creators?” – Maverick (75:30)
• The rise of podcasts as a control tool: Politicians launching podcasts to regain narrative control as news platforms fade.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Tell a lie through a vision.” – Maverick, on the meaning of television (02:48)
• “Death happens in threes…71 + 76 + 54? 201. What are the chances?” – Maverick (04:27)
• “We’re just moving on with our life like it’s fudgeing normal.” – Devon (14:22)
• “Everything’s a scam. They lie about everything.” – Maverick (17:46)
• “Obama…was a red herring.” – Maverick (21:52)
• “AI is the only way to remix history.” – Devon (24:31)
• “My sleeping schedule’s been off since [CERN fired up].” – Devon (25:41)
• “Roc Nation is connected to the US Government, the three-letter agencies.” – Maverick (29:24)
• “Hollywood is falling right now, if you guys haven’t noticed. There’s a great awakening, and I couldn’t be happier, man.” – Devon (37:07)
• “Who’s behind [the Deep State]?... I think it goes spiritual and intergalactical.” – Devon (64:53–64:59)
• “He said by 2025… we have taken over everything.” – Maverick, referencing “They Live” (67:06)

Notable Timestamps

• 01:06–02:36 – Espionage, CIA recruiting, electronic mind control patents
• 04:27–06:58 – “201” code in celebrity deaths, pop culture connections
• 10:00–11:05 – Simulation, string theory, error correction
• 13:08–14:34 – Tesla, Project Looking Glass, time-bending tech, The Simpsons and prediction
• 15:21–16:48 – Antarctica, Nazis, parallel universes
• 18:03–23:14 – Obama’s origins, shadow government, Michelle Obama rumors
• 23:40–25:27 – AI, Mandela Effect, manipulation of history
• 27:19–28:51 – Mind control via streaming audio, frequencies, “Leave the World Behind”
• 29:24–35:40 – Roc Nation as intelligence front, music industry blackballing
• 41:30–43:08 – Michael Jackson vs. Drake, lawsuits as control tactics
• 45:42–47:45 – Maureen Comey, Epstein, Diddy, dropped prosecution
• 53:54–54:39 – Project Orion, sleeper cells, mind control, mass violence
• 55:00–56:18 – Area 51 fires, burning and flooding as cover-up techniques
• 59:49–62:45 – Fast food conspiracy, missing people, organ trafficking
• 64:33–67:06 – Deep State, interdimensional control, "They Live" 2025 takeover
• 67:26–68:56 – Crypto’s presence in The Matrix (XRP)
• 71:17–73:17 – Trader Joe’s fake food and recalls
• 74:07–76:13 – Billionaires’ quiet buy-up of essential sectors, Walmart podcast studios

Tone and Language

• Conversational, rapid-fire, “uncensored barbershop” style.
• Frequent use of “facts,” “coincidence,” and “do your own research.”
• Humor and profanity sprinkled throughout to keep things unfiltered and engaging.

Conclusion

The episode weaves together quasi-mathematical patterns, government/celebrity scandals, and “hidden hand” theories to question the very nature of reality and power. From technical paranoia and elite cabals to time-travel and simulation theory, the hosts and guests draw connections across media, tech, and history—arguing that little is what it seems and that only skepticism, vigilance, and independent research offer a chance to see through the matrix.

If you like podcasts that go beyond the surface and ask, “What if everything you've been told is a lie?” this episode is a must-listen.

Find the guests:

• Maverick Approach: maverickapproach.com, Instagram, & YouTube
• Devon True: @devontrue on all platforms

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