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Meek PiDOGE, Deep State, Drones & Charlie Kirk | Donald Trump Jr. DSH #1008
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The Hidden Tech Threat facing business leaders is more serious than you think. 🚨 Join Sean Kelly for an explosive conversation about the mysterious drone activity being reported across America and what it means for national security. From unauthorized
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Sean
So what do you think's going on with these drones, man?
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Donald Trump Jr.
It's interesting. I had a guy on my. On my Rumble podcast yesterday that heads up the UAV stuff for, like, the CIA and did that for years. No one actually seems to know the time lapse footage of them flying over airports. I mean, like, I'm a licensed pilot. Like, you can't just fly over an airport without ATC air traffic control, like, clearances and stuff like that. And. And they're happening in mass. It's really odd.
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Sean
Yeah, we're here with you guys. We're at America Fest, and he was just talking about how it's grown so much, dude.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, it was awesome. I don't know if they caught that part, but, yeah. First time we were here, it was like 300 people. It was in Florida, I guess we did it in Florida, and It was like 300 people in a small room. And we were like, that's actually a pretty big turnout for a political event, generally speaking. And now, you know, just walking through that ballroom, it's not even, you know, it's just starting to get filled in. There's already 8,000 people in there. It's not even halfway full. They sold 20,000 tickets. I'm like, that's a movement. That's pretty cool. It's really cool to be a part of it.
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Sean
I got to ask about the drone stuff, because I know you're on the board of directors of a drone company. So what do you think's going on with these drones?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Man? It's interesting. I had a guy on my. On my Rumble podcast yesterday that heads up the UAV stuff for, like, the CIA and did that for years. No one actually seems to know. What's weird is, like, we don't know where they're coming from. We're not tracking, like, a point of origin. You know, you hear all the different stories, and again, you know, you don't want to go conspiratorial, but after the last eight years, it's sort of hard not to, right? It's. It's sort of a natural thing to do that. But you know this many and you see the slow mo footage or the time lapse footage of them flying over airports. I mean, like, I'm a licensed pilot. Like, you can't just fly over an airport without ATC air traffic control, like, clearances and stuff like that. And. And they're happening in mass. It's really odd. And, you know, half of you. Makes you wonder if it's just a distraction from something else that they're hiding from these days. So, yeah, trying to figure it all out is odd. And when you hear the, you know, other pilots saying these things are doing things that other drones are not capable of, you know, it's a little scary.
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Sean
I've seen some crazy theories how it's scanning for potential weapons.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, I heard the one about, you know, missing plutonium. That doesn't sound awesome, you know, but you know, when you think about all the stuff that went missing, all these warheads went missing in Ukraine whenever it was year, you know, years ago, just totally unaccounted for, like they could turn up anywhere. That's kind of scary. But it is weird. That seems like it also dies off at like 11 o'clock at night.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And so if that's the case, you just keep searching. Right. If they're looking for radioactive material, you probably wouldn't have a heart out. But the real weird one is that they can't seem to track them to a point of origin or they're just not telling us, which also wouldn't surprise me.
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Sean
Yeah, because they got to be taken off from somewhere you think they'd be able to track.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And again, like the way, you know, you have these shot systems in cities that just from echolocation they can tell you where a gunshot happens, you know, to an almost exact point.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
If they can't tell us where a point of origin of a seven foot diameter drone is coming off of that seems sort of odd to me.
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Sean
Super strange. Pentagon just failed its seventh audit.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. You know, it's sort of amazing that a government that will audit us, you know, at the IRS level for $601 transactions on Venmo seems to misplace trillions of dollars. I mean, it, it sucks. But you know what I'm super excited about? I think the next couple of years, Doge, you know, letting Elon go in there and just break down these systems, not even to go after it, but just exposing it to the American people. Yeah, I think that's so fundamentally critical when people realize what we've been wasting money on. Right. When we talk about being $35 trillion in debt, spending $1 trillion a year just on the interest on that debt. You know, that's money that we can't put into our schools, that's money we can't fix our roads. You know, I go to some of these cities around the country, it feels like we're living in a third world country and, and yet we keep spending on nonsense. So I just look forward to you know, four years of transparency. And once the American public gets a grasp of, I think, what's been going on, I think we have such an opportunity to create real change. It's never going to happen in permanent Washington. Right. It has to happen from the people. And we've watched that happen lately. We saw that, you know, frankly, with the cr, you know, in the last, you know, couple of days, you know, hey, social media is able to expose it. We see the nonsense that's in it, all the pork that's been stuffed in there that has nothing to do with the continuing resolution, but was just, you know, feeding, feeding the Washington beast, their friends, their allies and, you know, their donors exposing it. And we went from 1500 pages to 150 pages in like 24 hours. Like transparency is everything. So super excited about that. Absolutely.
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Sean
You got them wanting a 70k salary increase, right?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. Like, you know, you know what? I'm fine with giving people raises when they actually perform, but if they're the people overseeing the Pentagon and allowing them to fail seven audits in a row, allowing them to misplace $250 billion. I mean, 250 billion. A quarter of a trillion dollars misplaced at the Pentagon. And that's what we know of. Right. Again, I'm sure that just went to Ukraine with the rest of the money that's been wasted and, or stolen over there. So, you know, I'm fine with giving people a raise if they do something. How about balance the budget? Then we'll talk about a raise, right? Like, get something done. Don't just kick a can further down the road and hoping, you know, you know, that you'll somehow get redemption by doing that. I'm all for a raise, but I think people have to actually earn a raise, not just get it because they're there.
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Sean
Absolutely. Are you hearing all the Syria talk? What are you thinking about that?
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Donald Trump Jr.
You know what, as someone who when I was young was probably really hawkish and was like, sure, like America, we should go to war. I don't know that regime change has ever worked well. Right. I mean, you could look at, you know, do we think it worked well in Iraq? You know, and that's not being a Saddam apologist. I think he was a terrible human being, a true bad guy. But. But is the region worse once we, you know, are they better off after he was displaced? And the answer is no. Like, hundreds of thousands of people died, you know, because of these things. So I'm never sort of for these regime changes when we think we're doing great. It usually ends up being a total disaster. You could go back, obviously, Afghanistan in the 80s, that created Osama bin Laden and, you know, ultimately al Qaeda and all of these things. It never seems to work, and yet we continually push for it because there's no money in peace. There's only money in war. And so that's why it's sort of amazing when I, you know, they watching Washington left and right, sort of chastised my president. Well, you know, you can't just stop the death in Ukraine. There must be, because a general is, you know, his board seat at Raytheon is the exit strategy. You get that by. Not by selling missiles. Yeah, you know, they don't. No one makes any money in Washington. The Beltway isn't taken care of if we're not permanently at war. That hasn't worked out well for the American people. The American people voted against it, I think overwhelmingly. They're sick of it. I think it's probably one side, both sides agree on, maybe the left a little bit more in Ukraine. I can't figure out why, but I think generally we want to stop that. And yet, you know, I use the example over the last, let's call it two and a half years, three years that we've been in, you know, at least in a proxy war with Ukraine basically funding it to the tune of over $250 billion. I know there's another 60 billion in the last package on top of that. So. And that's probably where some of that misplaced 250 billion from the Pentagon say, so let's call a half a trillion dollars, give or take, in the Ukraine. I'll watch Republicans like Mitch McConnell say it's the number one issue for Republicans across the country. I'm a guy that actually goes across the country. I speak to people, you know, 300 people there, 5,000 people here, 10,000 people opening up for my father, whatever it may be. I've done a survey at every one of my major speeches. I probably won't have to do it anymore because everyone in this room agrees with me. But I've done it now in front of over 150,000 people. Is Ukraine a top three issue for you? And is it a top 10 issue? So far, it's been a top three issue for exactly zero people. It was a top 10 issue for four people. Wow. The first guy I asked him, I'll give him the mic. Like, why is it a top? Well, I'm from Kyiv, Ukraine. I was like, look, I'm going To give you a pass. Second guy misunderstood the question. He thought it was a double negative. So it turns out he was actually on our side. The next guy was a. I guess he was a board member at Raytheon, so of course he wanted it. And another guy had done business there for like 20 years. So he's like, it's not really a top 10 issue, but it's like 10 and a half. Yeah, 150,000. I speak in front, like, I've spoken in front of more people in the last two weeks than Mitch McConnell. Real Americans, meaning like in places not beltway people, than Mitch McConnell has in his entire 700 year career in the Senate. And four people basically out of 150,000. I mean, that's, that's very statistically significant. You know, when we look at polling, polling is done with 1500 people. I've done it with 100 exact. You know, it's like four people, really.
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Sean
Not even top three.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Not even. Not even top three. So it's not an issue. But that's what's crazy. There's such a misalignment between so many in D.C. and the people who actually put them there. And so again, what I'm so excited about, I hope, for in the next four years is that we just expose it again. You see what's going on now that X is like a platform where both sides are actually heard. You can have opinions out there, you can get real information out there. If it's conservative opinion, it actually has a chance of sort of breaking through that barrier that used to be put up with the censorship complex and everything that was going on there. I think that's so fundamentally critical because I just want Americans to understand what's going on. Washington thinks the average American is really stupid. I don't. I actually believe that they get it. They understand. You saw sort of after the election when people are like, my God, you know, I. Who cares if you can't afford groceries? Like, three year olds aren't going to be able to decide for themselves without parental consent if they should go through gender affirming care. I'm like, what. What is wrong with, like, what is going on? Like, they're so out of touch. And you see that in the media also. So it's great to see sort of, you know, the trust in media die. It's great to see the ratings die off. And it's awesome to see sort of independent media, just people having conversations, whether it's, you know, your podcast, whether it's mine, whether it's Charlie Rogan, whoever it is. You're having these long form conversations, not a two minute soundbite on, you know, mainstream media where everyone's rushing in there to get the four things they had to hit and no real depth or thought. They're just sort of spewing talking points without getting in any detail. So as people start embracing that, they're getting more informed and with that they're putting a lot more pressure on their politicians to actually represent them.
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Sean
Absolutely. Do you think Elon Musk saved social media?
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Donald Trump Jr.
I think 100%. I think he saved free speech. You know, I think, you know, without, without that. And again, I'm a guy that's been on there for a long time, right. I had a pretty big following before we ever got into politics. We were, you know, from the TV show the Apprentice or whatever. And I'm, I always did my own. And I was one of the early guys to talk about like the censorship thing before people really saw what was going on. And I'm like, wait a second. The second I got into politics, I was getting, you know, let's call it 5,000 retweets a post. They're like, well, what's different? It's like, well, I got five. They're like, well, it's the same. I go, no, no, five, like single digit. Like, you know, like five. Like five retweets. Like. So I saw what was going on, I saw how biased it was, started calling it out and, you know, honestly, I think without it this last time, you wouldn't have gotten that. You saw it even in 2020, you know, Hunter Biden laptop. 17% of the public were like, I know. Not about that. I wouldn't have even voted for it. But that's the difference between an election and not now. I'm sort of glad it worked out this way. Even though we went through sort of four years of hell with the lawfare and the nonsense and the, you know, the continued lawsuits and, you know, all of that because now we had a chance to start over with knowledge. Right. My father got into Washington D.C. in 16. You know, his first night in the White House was his first night ever in Washington D.C. so it's like you're starting from scratch. You don't know anyone. You don't know who the guys you can trust are you. There's so many people that have the R next to their name and they're like, okay, they're going to do what we ask. It's not at all true.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
So now with that four Year, hiatus, you saw who's trustworthy, you saw who's going to actually execute. You see who's going to stick around for you. And, you know, they will execute. Now, on the mandate that my father was given by the American people, you know, that to me is. Is super critical. Had it, you know, had. We just sort of rolled over in 2020, the same guys kicking the can down the road, I think we have an opportunity to do something that's just fundamentally transformative to government, bringing the people into it. I think what Elon's doing, you know, with Doge on that is amazing. But I think without that, without X, you know, true social, these kinds of things, with that continued censorship that we saw from the other major social platforms, the real stuff, the real facts would have never gotten out there. I mean, absolutely. You saw what Kamala Harris, Tim Wallace, you're like, I mean, these didn't even seem like serious people to me at times. And yet. And by the way, the media even agreed with that, like, six months before she sort of took over in a couple.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
She went from, like, this is the worst VP ever. She's terrible at speaking to, like, look at how great it is. We get to have the first xyz. It was insane, but, like, because of the unbiased nature of it, and both sides were very present, but because both people got to see both sides of the story for the first time in a long time, I think they were able to actually come to a decision that made sense instead of a decision that was insane.
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Sean
Absolutely. Because you had traditional media against you, you had the legal system against you, but the alternative media, I think, is.
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Donald Trump Jr.
What really saved you guys 100%. You know, you saw it and. And you could see it wasn't even what happened there. It's what didn't happen there. You know, when my father does three and a half hours on rogue and impromptu, people are like, oh, wow, there's there. You know, it was sort of interesting listening to it, to watching him go into the detail of, like, stuff that happened in the Civil War and why that was like. It was like, oh, there's like. There's a lot of depth here that you just wouldn't see in conventional media. And then watching Kamala Harris have the opportunity to do it and also turn it down was equally telling.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Because it's like, there was no depth there. There was nothing beyond sort of the, you know, the teleprompted sound bites. I'm not saying she should have done it was probably the right decision. For her not to do it.
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Sean
You think so?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Because I think she would have failed miserably. I mean, you see the speeches, you see the interviews. I mean, she couldn't do 15 minutes, 20 minutes with Brett Baer asking the same questions that she'd been asked in like the three other interviews that she did in the month prior. It's like nothing was a surprise. Like, if you can't, you still don't have an answer to what you would have done differently in what was clearly a fairly failed administration with it then, like, what are you doing here? Yeah, how if you can't do 15, 20 minutes with Bret Baer on Fox News, how are you going to do against Putin? How are you going to do against Xi? You know, and it was just very telling for me, so. And I think it was very telling for the American people they saw that were like, why can't she do this? She's been asked that question. You know, she didn't do many interviews. She hid from that and just sort of allowed the mainstream media narrative to create a caricature of her that didn't exist, that she was great and competent and so impressive. But every time she got behind a podium or got in an interview, even a non hostile interview, she, I mean, she almost ended her political career on the View. Like, imagine being like a leftist, like going on the View. It's like, like, how much more home team can it get than that?
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Sean
For real?
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Donald Trump Jr.
And she still couldn't get it right. You know, I think everyone just saw that in front of them. We're like, okay, like we've come to our senses.
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Sean
Absolutely. How do you feel about the transition lately there's been some weird stuff coming about Biden, right? How he's handling it.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, but I mean, well, now you're hearing, you know, what was the article today? And well, it turns out that Joe Biden was actually pretty senile and aides had to try to spoon feed him basic answers and we had to keep meetings to three or four minutes because like, I'm like, I've been saying this for a year. Like I've been saying this since, you know, I mean, we ran against them in 20. I'm like, there is something way off here. And the fact that they hid that from the American people, you know, these stories are coming out now. Being honest about what's clearly some form of dementia or whatever it is. Like, everyone saw it. Like, I got criticized, right? Oh, you're being ageist. Because I'm like, no, the guy is the president of The United States. He's in charge of the nuclear football. Like, if American lives are in danger, he's the guy getting a call at 3:00 in the morning. He got lost on stage three times this week.
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Sean
Are you serious? Well, I didn't see that.
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Donald Trump Jr.
No, not, not this week. I'm just saying over the last four years, I mean, it was like every week I'd do like a parody of him getting like confused and lost on a stage or like, like, like everyone saw it.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And, you know, you'd watch, you know, Joe Scarborough. This is actually the best Joe Biden's ever been in his career. I'm like, really? Does anyone actually believe that? Like, I, you know, watching that sort of propaganda, you know, go out there was both scary, but I think important. You know, I think honestly, had they thrown him, you know, sort of under the bus earlier, maybe they could have gotten away with it. Maybe they could have gotten some other sort of puppet candidate in there, you know, and perpetuated, you know, a lot of this. I think Americans do want to know who is actually running the country right now. It's not Joe Biden. I mean, Jill Biden did more campaign stops than him in Iowa during the primaries. It's like, why is the first lady doing more campaign stops than the actual candidate? Like, it doesn't make any sense. But, you know, I think the tell all books that will come out shortly as people from that administration start to do the grift thing are going to be, are going to be pretty epic. And I think it's going to be pretty scary when Americans figure out just how bad it actually was. Because it's probably worse than I even imagined. And I've probably been pretty vocal about it for quite some time.
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Sean
And you're on the inside. There's going to be some stories, but.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Like, we saw them all transpire. You know, I mean, I got, I got fact check on social media. I did one of those where like, he went and like the crowd is that way and he did a 180 and there's just a curtain and he's like trying to shake hands with like an imaginary person. I'm like, there he is. Like, no, no, no, he wasn't shaking hands with someone. He was pointing to the crowd. I go, the crowd was opposite. Like, it's on tv. Like, I'm supposed to not believe what my eyes are showing me. Like, you know, the desperation to try to cover up was, was pretty crazy, but still effective because, you know, the reality is like, for me you know, I do this every day now.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
You know, there's a lot of Americans that are just, you know, they have a hard time just, you know, feeding their families, trying to survive on, you know, between the inflationary stuff, what I call it, you know, the Biden Harris cost of living crisis, you know, it's become problematic for a lot. They don't have time to pay attention to it every day. And if you're just sort of listening to that mainstream narrative as your 5 minutes of news consumption today, you know, maybe you don't realize it, but I think so much of that's changed. I mean, the lies have just gotten so bad that people are actually paying attention. I think that's really important. People. People do need to pay attention to what's going on.
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Sean
I mean, the lies are crazy. Why did it take three years to find out there's 26 undercover agents at the J6 raid?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, and I said it, like, early when I'm like, well, it seems like they're opening the doors to people. Why won't they release the videos? Because it, you know, why won't they do all of these things? Like, why can't we just have transparency? I mean, you want to. If you want to go down the rabbit hole. It's like, you know, the alleged bomb at the RNC and dnc, like, well, so why did Secret Service pass by it a few times? There was never a problem with the bomb sniffing dogs. Like, I've been to the Secret Service training program like in I guess Maryland or Virginia. I've watched the dogs work. I actually got in a bite suit to see the attack dogs as well as the, like, there's no way they missed that. Unless it wasn't real or it was a setup or that was the backup plan. How did that story. If there was a bomb outside the DNC and the RNC and the, you know, Vice President elect was at the dnc, why didn't that become a story if it wasn't like a backup plan for, like, hey, we were able to instigate something else that's a really big deal. A bomb outside the DNC and it's like, gone. We don't want to get into the details. The video imagery gets reduced to a level that people can't really see the details anymore. How is that possible? It like, crazy to the level of like, cameras from, like, the 70s. Like, that's not what those cameras were. Why, why can't we see that? Yeah, same with Russia. Russia, Russia. They are the phones of all the people that were working on it, we lost all the tax messages. You see what's going on with the January 6th committee now. You know you have members of those committees clearly witness tampering to try to get a result. And I was like at the time, I'm like. And I did 10 hours of congressional testimony on that one too. And I'm like so you mean to tell me that there's someone that says that my father was able to and attempted to try to disarm two heavily armed young Secret service agents to take over the beast and drive it down to see his support like crazy. Does anyone really like. But that was the narrative. Like they like by the way, if he was able to do that, I'd actually be more impressed if a 75 year old guy at the time could beat the hell out of like two heavily armed, well trained Secret service agents take over the presidential limo. And that's thing so body armored. It's not that easy to crawl over that. I'm like, like, like imagine actually believing that. Yeah, but they sold it for months, you know. Now it turns out it's all one big lie. And you know they, in the last cr. We can't have anyone to be compelled in Congress to testify about these things. You mean like the people who represent us just get a clean pass? They can lie, they can manipulate that and we're going to give them that pass in a continuing a resolution so that we can never actually find out the truth. I mean that's scary stuff man. Like it makes you wonder if it's a dystopian society.
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Sean
No, it really makes you wonder if he lost, would the truth have ever come out?
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Donald Trump Jr.
100%. No. I mean I think that was their real hope. It's like, hey, we can just bury the. I think they're still trying to do it. I mean that they tried to do it yesterday.
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Sean
It's just weird timing.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Christopher Ray resigns the day. It's, it's just all so convenient. Right? There's all of these things, right. You talk about sort of the first assassination attempt of my father. Like, like, you know, I know these guys. Well a lot of the, A lot of the, let's call it like the door kicker level guys at the Secret Service are awesome guys. I'll be, I had a detail for four years. These will be friends for life. These are true patriots, great guys. But like the fact that leadership would put a bunch of people that aren't trained and then they put local guys and then no one's on the same radio channels. Like there is no scenario imaginable where an armed shooter is known for 10 minutes and they still allow the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party to get on a stage. Then he's on a roof for multiple minutes and no one knows. And the roof happens to be inside 150 yards. And it's the high ground. Like, like this is history 101. Like you always guard the high ground. Like you never let, you never seed the high ground. Like, this is not something that those guys don't know. But like that is clearly a leadership failure. And I don't believe there's that level of coincidence. Like, and then how many, how many super radicalized 20 year old kids, Sean, do you know, that have zero social media footprint? They were, it's like they were radicalized out of.
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Sean
I don't know any.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And I've met thousands of anyone. This is the world in which we play. I mean it like, of course, like no digital footprint whatsoever. He just wanted to assassinate someone out of thin air. And then magically the body is cremated within hours. And it's like, interesting. I mean, it's actually, it's so implausible if you look at all of the facts of all of these things, to not assume sort of the worst. Right. I mean, the conspiracy theorists have been batting, you know, let's call it virtually a thousand for the last few years. Sometimes it just takes a few months to realize it. Right. The big one I always used in my sum speech is like, of course Wuhan virus started in Wuhan, in the lab that studies the exact virus. And if you said that though, and you were in academia or if you had a government grant, you were out.
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Sean
Same with Lyme disease, of course.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Like, by the way, having had Lyme, it's brutal. Like, you know, when it comes back, like, you know, because I lived in, you know, in Connecticut and Bedford, you know, within 50 miles of like Lyme, Connecticut. I grew up there. Like, of course it came there like, and came from the lab that studies these bioweapons over there. That's literally the, the closest access point across the Long Island Sound from that. And it's like, of course that happened, like, so. Yeah, it's just, it's happened so much and to such a great extent that it's important. It almost feels like like addiction, right? You have to kind of hit rock bottom before you can recover. And I think we're getting to the point where like Americans are realizing we've hit rock bottom, that they're starting to pay attention, that they're watching for the signs. They're not just getting spoon, you know, believing the lies that they're spoon fed, they're actually questioning them. And once we question things, I think that's how we get to real answers.
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Sean
I mean, you saw with the election, it was a landslide. Were you shocked?
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Donald Trump Jr.
I wasn't shocked because I've been the guy that's been on the ground.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
This is my third time around. You know, I think I did probably close to 100 events in October, you know, you know, 4, 3, 4 a day for weeks on end, like, whatever it is. So it felt so good on the ground. Better than 16, better than 20. Like, but after going through 20, I was like, I don't know, I just can't account for how bad they're gonna cheat.
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Sean
You asked of Trump.
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Donald Trump Jr.
So it's like I felt, you know, but. But it's true. And by the way, so many people now realize it when they're like, how did Joe Biden get 80? Like, you look at sort of the way elections work. It's all 73 to 75, 76 to 74, like 82, like Joe Biden, like, and, and he only outperformed in like, you know, Philadelphia and Atlanta and Detroit and Milwaukee, these Democrat strongholds. Like, he outperformed Barack Obama in 08. Joe Biden did. Like, with his history of sort of racial divisiveness and all that. Like, no one believes that credibly. Yeah, right. Like, you may be okay with the answer because you happen to be a leftist and you're like, I'll just take the win. And, you know, but like, you can't be serious. And I think when the people saw this one, they were like, oh, yeah, that's right. And it was because we actually finally ramped up a game to kind of counter that stuff. You saw how many lawsuits had to be filed to stop them from playing these games. And, you know, we just didn't have that apparatus the first time around or in 20 because you didn't think you needed it at 20. Sort of showed you how flagrant they'd be and you had to actually, you know, be. Be reactive to the insanity. And so for me, it felt so good from what I was seeing. And it wasn't just sort of the white dude in a manga hat anymore. Now it was like, literally, I think per capita, right? Not, not overall, but per capita in the last three, four months of the election, I think I took more selfies with African American men than, you know, than Anyone?
- [25:52]
Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And I was like, that hadn't happened before.
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Sean
The vote changed for African American men. Right.
- [25:56]
Donald Trump Jr.
African American men was huge. More women, but not to the same as the men. Hispanics. The level of that were coming up to be across the board. So it wasn't, it wasn't what you sort of expected where it's just, you know, some sort of, you know, blue collar, maybe former Democrat that turned. But it was, it was a such. Much less homogeneous.
- [26:16]
Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
A much more diverse group of people who were like, come out like, you guys better get this done. Absolutely enough. Like, we get it. We were wrong. Like we understand it. So it was cool to see. So I felt really strong. But again, I just still had this thing. Like I saw what they did in 20. I understand how well they play the lawfare game. I understand how much more heavily funded they are. I mean, the average congressional race, you know, they're outspending us 5, 10 to 1.
- [26:42]
Sean
Yeah.
- [26:42]
Donald Trump Jr.
You look at the stuff in ActBlue, you know, all the stuff coming out now is the foreign donations. And you know, one person donated 18,000 times in a 24 hour period like, like I. I don't think I could hit enter, let alone enter information. 18,000. So there's so much shade that you had to overcome that. In the back of my mind, as good as it felt, you're still like, I don't know, man. 50. 50. Yeah, but, you know, but again, versus, versus 16, 20 was an odd one because it was just, you know, people were there, Covid and whatever. It's just like it, it actually still felt pretty good. And we actually did more votes in 20, but you just weren't gonna overwhelm, you know, that, that machine with the mail and balloting and the games and you know, when, when I hear stories from people, I know I got 15 ballots to my house. Like, you know, or. Or I got seven ballots to the house I used to live at and my neighbor or the guy that bought my house forwarded it to me. I'm like, well, there's not seven residents in that house. How'd they go there? So I think we did a good job, you know, trying to be as reactive as possible. We just got to get a hold of this thing. I mean, you know, who wouldn't want actual free and fair elections? I mean, it doesn't seem that controversial when people. We can't have id. That's racist. I'm like, is it? Or is like saying that certain people can't actually figure out how to get id that Seems more racist to me than actually requiring it.
- [27:54]
Sean
Yeah, well, you saw the states she won and the map of how it said no voter ID in that state.
- [27:58]
Donald Trump Jr.
Literally it's Matt, like she. Any state that required voter id, I don't think she won.
- [28:03]
Sean
Wonder if they required id, would he have won? Maybe almost every state.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Then you look at the way they were doing immigration, you were looking the way they were flying people into various states. It was always a red state. I mean, it was clearly trying to, you know, create a, you know, an electoral shift. You know, but you're not allowed to say that because if you say that, you're. Even if the facts back it up, even if it's pretty clear what they're doing, even if there's plenty of Democrats out there saying it, and even if, you know, some of these super blue states are out there saying, like, of course, like, immigrants should be, you know, illegal immigrants should be able to vote or, you know, and then you sort of combine that with the fact that even if you're illegal, you know, you're counted in the census, which then sways sort of the shift in weight of your congressional seats and, you know, which states get to do what. Like. Like, of course they're doing what they're doing. Like, there's no, there's no other plausible explanation. Absolutely.
- [28:50]
Sean
Do you think there should be some reform on the campaign financing side? I'm in Nevada. I feel like Sam Brown could have won with some more financing. Same with Kerry Lake in Arizona.
- [28:58]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yes, but it's more complicated than that. I mean, I think some of the stuff with campaign finance is insane. You know what I mean? When you look at just, you know, and by the way, on both sides, when it's like, you know, guys donate $100 billion to here, to there, and like, what I'd love to see on the campaign finance side is, you know, at a presidential level, you know, you know, these guys are. Come out on here, spent a billion dollars and didn't win a single swing state, right? Over a billion dollars and end up in debt. We spent about 350 million. Like, how about this? Give everyone $300 million, see how they run a campaign. Because you're gonna have to run the country, like, run it like a business, right? Like, get it. You know, if you can outspend someone 3 to 1, 4 to 1, and still lose, like, what does that say about your leadership ability? Your, you know, how are you gonna make deals? How are you gonna. So I'd love to say, hey, a presidential gets this X both sides get the same amount. You know, a congressional gets a much less amount. You know, give, give them each $2 million and run, you know, have it fixed to cut that out and actually see how people perform. Because the reality is you see some of these people when you're spending 10 to 1, like, you know, a moron can beat a great candidate if the guy just doesn't, you know, has funding from out of state and all these things. It's, it's, it's really insane, you know, so, so that's a big problem has to be resolved.
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Sean
I can't wait for Maha.
- [30:17]
Donald Trump Jr.
Man.
- [30:17]
Sean
I'm a big RFK fan.
- [30:18]
Donald Trump Jr.
As am I. I'm the guy that sort of negotiated that deal. Oh yeah, yeah. Like I saw what was happening. And so, you know, it was sort of like he was running as a Democrat and all of a sudden he was, they were, you know, and then the second it was like, well now he's an independent, you could see him sort of boosting or trying to split the Republican vote. And I'm, you know, listen, I'm from New York City. Yeah. Had a lot of Democrat friends. A buddy of mine, business partner, former Democrat Omid Malik was, you know, best friends with Bobby's son or really close friends with Bobby son. He's like, Don, like I know Bobby a long time, you guys would get along great. Like we were both sort of in the outdoor stuff and he started sort of setting up some back channel conversations, just tight group. Because what they would do is if more people know, someone would leak it and then the media would try to create the division, right? They'd figure out a narrative, they try to break it up so that that alliance could never happen. I was like, as a father of five young kids, as a father who sort of, you know, believes in a lot of these aspects of health and not, not a fan of sort of some of the institutionalized way these decisions are made, both from the AG side in what's going into our foods as well as sort of, you know, the forced stuff on the, you know, on the big pharma side. I said like, let's start talking. Let's, let's figure this out. It was clear, like, hey, Bobby's like, we got to the point. Like I like a lot of what you're saying. You're probably not going to win and this is what's going to happen. Like, why don't we get together the things that you actually care about, like, why don't we give you a seat at the Table. Like, like, let's make that happen. Like I'll, you know. And so we started having that conversation. I brought in Susie Wiles, my father, obviously. We sat down and just basically didn't tell anyone until it was announced. Wow.
- [31:51]
Sean
So it was in the works for a while?
- [31:52]
Donald Trump Jr.
Oh yeah. I probably worked it for a couple months. Oh, wow. You know, I spoke to his daughter in law for a while. You know, again, we got along great. And at first I was like really skeptical because I was like, you know, half of me is like sort of just the attack dog, right? So it's like if they're running against me, it's like, you know, when you're hammer, everything's a nail, right?
- [32:09]
Sean
Yeah.
- [32:09]
Donald Trump Jr.
Even though I like sort of a lot of what he was saying on the food side, I was like, well, if it's still against us, it's against us. I gotta fight. Once we started having that conversation, it was really fast. I was like, man, like this guy's gonna do better than probably anyone else. I could put it, you know, my father would put it HHS or FDA or whatever it may be. Right. And my father agreed with that too. And we're like, let's, let's just, let's fight together and let's just take this back. So what I love is same with Tulsi, by the way. Like I'd sort of same friend, same thing. It was like, hey, because again, former Democrat, former Hillary donor.
- [32:40]
Sean
Yeah.
- [32:41]
Donald Trump Jr.
Saw the light, saw the nonsense, saw that, you know, came on board, became a really good friend of mine, you know, late I guess 1920, and was just like, hey man, like I have these friends, like I think you'd actually get along with them great. And we just sort of made that happen. And I think when you look at the Republican Party or you know, it's called, you know, the America First Party. Really now, like Elon, former Democrat, doing an incredible job. Someone, I'm like, I want him to take over, you know, Doge, like you'll be awesome at it. I mean, that's one of the greatest minds of our era. And he's willing to do this. Like, this is a great thing for America. You know, Bobby on the hillside, Tulsi, dni, sorry, all the acronyms get me confused. Like these are people from different walks of life, different former political viewpoints all coming together to sort of fight for like a common goss of America. And that's awesome. It's great. You know, when you look at the Democrat party, it's the exact opposite, like you could be, like, 99% with them. But if you don't agree on, like, you know, I don't know, men playing in women's sports, like, you're out. You're ostracized. You know, I saw it with people, like, you know, when I realized I was one of the early guys in the men's and women's sports stuff, because I saw it. I have a daughter that's a great athlete. I'm like, this is nonsense. And it was, like, 2017 when I first started speaking. Before it was really a thing. But, like, it happened a couple times. I was like, this is bs like, this is insane. Like, and even then when she was, like, very leftist, Twitter, like, people would respond to me and they're like, oh, I hate you so much, but you're right. And I was like, this is a losing issue. But, like, that trans mafia had the ability to create this thing. Like, it was real, but no one actually cared, including people on the left, you know, and just to see, like, people who are incredible fighters for, like, you know, gay rights, you know, Martina Navratilova, like, you know, great female tennis player. She was, like, doing the gay rights thing in the early 80s when it wasn't cool.
- [34:29]
Sean
Yeah.
- [34:30]
Donald Trump Jr.
You know, when it was actually an effort, when you weren't, like, a hero just for, like, speaking your mind. It's a little different right now. Like, she was, like, one of the great female tennis players of all time, one of the great female athletes of all time. And she was like, yeah, men shouldn't be playing in women's sports. And they. They destroyed. Like, it was, like, 30 years of, like, LBGT. Like, activism was just out the window, and you're gone. You're just totally out. I'm like, yeah, it's nice. Like, it was nuts. And so I think, you know, again, exposing that was just a big part of all of this. So I think was huge. Yeah. And so, like, we're actually that party that's, like, open to other ideas, open to, you know, diversity. They talk about diversity, but it's only in, like, you know, skin color, you know, dei. It's dei, you know, it has nothing to do with diversity of thought. That's the only place where they want absolutely no diversity whatsoever.
- [35:21]
Sean
Yeah. Cuban was driving me nuts on Twitter, dude.
- [35:23]
Donald Trump Jr.
It's insane. And, like, I'm like. It's almost like there has to be, like, a payoff there, because, like, no one can be that insane.
- [35:28]
Sean
Cause he's smart.
- [35:29]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah.
- [35:30]
Sean
That was the weird part.
- [35:31]
Donald Trump Jr.
Like, you know, and by the way, like, he lived in a Trump building for years. Like, you know. Oh, wow.
- [35:36]
Sean
I didn't know that.
- [35:36]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. So it's like watching that shift, it's almost like there's got to be some sort of, like, I don't know, some Diddy file on. By the way, I'm not going to say that's the case, but, like, it almost had to be something. It's like, imagine, like, how few. You can't be that serious on some of these things, you know? And, you know, the campaigns were also so different when you had Bobby going out there, you know, and talking for 45 minutes about help. No bullet points, no notes, and it's like you have Cardi b or whoever. It was like, endorsing Kamala Harris is like, the prompter went out. Well, just tell us why you're here. Like, you're here because you believe this, right? It was like, okay, let me pull it up on my phone. I believe this because I'm like. And then you find out, like, they were all paid. She got millions of dollars, and, like, then Oprah gets paid. What was it, $2 million?
- [36:24]
Sean
And then she lied about it.
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Donald Trump Jr.
No, no, I wasn't paid directly. And you have to listen to the word choice very clearly. She. She wasn't played directly. No, no, no. It went to Harpo Enterprises. Harpo is, you know, the anagram for Oprah. It's her production company.
- [36:35]
Sean
Crazy.
- [36:36]
Donald Trump Jr.
So they're just willing to lie, and it's disgusting. And, like, so I did a funny book a couple years ago with my father. I have a publishing company just because so many of the big publishing houses would never publish conservative writers. So I was like. I just said, hey, we'll. We'll start a business and do this. And so I published a book for my father called Letters to Trump. And it was all these people who basically became haters that, you know, from the 80s on, he'd say, say these, like, stack, you know, from, you know, Oprah, you know, literally, Oprah wrote him a letter, you know, 15 years ago or whatever it was, saying, like, one day, like, we should run for president. I'd be your vp. What a ticket. That would be crazy. You don't hate. My father used to hang out at Mar A Lago all the time. You talked about, like, the Mar A Lago of, like, turkey burger or something on your show for years. We literally. My family, like, I was on it. We did the last show of Oprah ever when she was on network television. Wow. It was our family Doing it. Like. Like, all of a sudden, she hates Trump. But it's. It's just narrative and money.
- [37:36]
Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And it makes you wonder when you see some of these people, like, all the celebrities that were coming out for Trump and started to do it, then the Diddy stuff breaks, and all of a sudden they were radio silent, and then magically, they were endorsing Kamala Harris. I'm like, dude, there's something there, because there's never that much smoke without some fire, right? Almost impossible.
- [37:53]
Sean
The Eminem one hurt me, by the way.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Okay. Like, I grew up listening to it, so I'm like, how did, like, he become, like, such a. Like, it's. It's hard to believe. Like, it's like, you know, like. And there's no way he actually believes this. Yeah, like, it's. It's.
- [38:09]
Sean
That one shocked me, actually.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. It's like, I don't care anymore, because it's like, I think we've shown sort of the celebrity endorsement doesn't actually mean anything, because, you know, again, when they're pushing something, when people are saying, I can't afford groceries. I can't afford gas, I don't really care what they have to say. I mean, we proved that. It didn't stop them from trying. But again, when I give stone speeches for my father, I don't get paid to do that. If I want to, I go do it for my father because I believe in these things. I think it's important when these people are like, oh, yeah, I'll go do that for $5 million. I'm like, $5 million? When Americans can't afford groceries, by the way, you shouldn't not just only listen to that person's advice and just ignore it entirely. You should never listen to their music again. If they're just profiteering off of that while, you know, Americans are suffering and then artificially, simultaneously trying to boost the candidate that was literally in charge that allowed those conditions to take place that created the inflation. I'm like. They're like, well, when Kamala Harris is in charge, I'm like, guys, like, she is in charge. She's the vice President of the United States. Like, she is the number two person in charge, by the way. She's probably or could have been the most powerful vice president in the history of America, because Joe Biden's clearly not the guy doing it. He's clearly not there. He's clearly absentee. Like, that seems like it would be a great opportunity for you to step in when you're like, we're gonna do this on day one. I'm like, why not do it now? Why wouldn't you start? If you have these great ideas and they're going to fix things, why, why, why don't you do them? Even today? Yeah, you may be lame duck, but, like, get something done that makes sense. Not just a pork bill, like cr, you know, funding all sorts of ridiculous things. Pay raises for Congress. That's not cr. CR is like a. A push till later that's permanent. Yeah, they get the raise, it's never coming back down. You know, we saw all these things. We're not going to prosecute people in Congress who may have broken laws, people who may have, you know, perjured themselves or manipulated witnesses. Like. Like, don't we want to know that? Like, we can't even compel their testimony. We can't even ask them about it. Crazy, right? When you look at the, you know, Joe Biden pardoning pedophiles, why would you part of the Chinese national with, like, 47,000 images of infants in sexually compromised positions, why would you part at a Chinese national? Unless, of course, China has something on you or Hunter or another Biden that was profiteering from China. Like, why would you go soft on pedophiles? Like, 8,000, 8,000, whatever it was, pardons, you know, pedophiles, People who took advantage of cities financially to the tune of tens of millions of dollars just because they were Democrat donors. Like, these are not like, hey, I think this person was, you know, unjustly criminally prosecuted. Like, this is just like, clearly you know, some sort of pay to play scheme or a payback for something else or, you know, a way to cover up something else because it's so fraudulently abusive to me, it's scary.
- [41:04]
Sean
Pardon Hunter.
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Donald Trump Jr.
What's that?
- [41:06]
Sean
He pardon Hunter.
- [41:07]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, well, and like, I knew that, by the way, I knew I was. I was talking about that on my, you know, my rumble podcast for, like, of course he's gonna pardon Hunter. Like, no, no, he's not. He's never. He's literally said he's not gonna do it. I'm like, yeah, no, because it wouldn't be politically expedient for him to do it right now, but he's gonna wait until it doesn't matter. He either wins and does it or he loses it and does it. Like, of course he was never going to do it. But watching the media be like, no, no, he said he's just trying to take that shit off the table. Like, of course. And by the way, As a father, I kind of understand it, but, like, the Biden DOJ did so much. When you actually talk about what Hunter really did, the way they let the statute of limitations expire on the real crimes, the, you know, the foreign influences. Like, the gun charge was kind of nonsense. It was real. If it was the Don Jr gun charge, I'd be in Gitmo right now. Yeah, but, like, so it was a crime, but it's, like, over the grand. In the grand scheme of the things that the Biden family was doing, the way they were profiteering, I mean, you know, grandchildren getting benefits from, you know, CCP controlled entities. Like, you know, like, we were actually, like, international business people. That's what we did before we got into politics. Yeah, we still do, but, like, we had a track record of that. Like, they became international business people. The day he assumed the Vice presidency, Like, it's a little different.
- [42:20]
Sean
Yeah.
- [42:20]
Donald Trump Jr.
And yet. No, no, no. It's like the. You know, I wrote about it in my book when I did liberal privilege. Like, it's just like, what? After, you know, money laundering for Russian oligarchs, I'm like. Like, I'm the guy that did 50 hours of congressional testimony for Russia. Russia, Russia. Like hunters, money laundering, the wife of the mayor of Moscow, the money tied to human trafficking and sex trafficking rings, and everyone's like, well, no, it's a little different. I'm like, no, no. Like, that's a real connection. Like, you don't become the mayor of Moscow without Putin.
- [42:46]
Sean
Yeah.
- [42:47]
Donald Trump Jr.
You're trying to figure out a connection to me, to Putin. It's. It's. It's insanity. And yet I had to do 50 hours of congressional testimony for treason, a crime punishable by death. Hunter gets, like, a total pass and made millions on it. Like, we're living in bizarro world madness.
- [42:59]
Sean
You've been under legal attack since 16.
- [43:02]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. I mean, yeah. And then it got worse after. After 20, because then it became, you know, the business and then my father and that. You know, I mean, you know, does Anyone really believe January 6th was an insurrection at this point?
- [43:13]
Sean
No. I did want to bring this up. You were one of the first, if not the first, to vouch for J.D. vance.
- [43:18]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, I got to know him early. I read his book. Like, I think probably. I forget what year it was, but, like, early, and I was like, wow, I love this. Like, it was just a great story. Like, so, you know, just the story that he was able to, you know, overcome, you know, coming out of, you know, Appalachia and, like, just incredible. And when it sort of came out, it was like, like, never Trump. I was like, oh, no. Like, this is like. And what was great about it was like, he was one of the first people to just, on his own, be like, you know what? I was wrong about this. Like, these policies are actually working. So I got to know. I got to know him before his sort of Senate run, and I. We became pretty good friends through some other friends of mine. And, like, I sort of did the sort of pre. Pre Trump endorsement, sort of de facto Don junior Endorsement, and really worked that one hard. You know, other guys got involved. You know, Tucker Carlson, like, I was like, man, this guy's smart. He's totally with us. Like, just gets it. He'll do a great job. So, you know, sort of early, you know, normally stay out of the Republican primary. Let it. Let it fight him out. But you just see, you know, some of the special interests get in to support their chosen puppet candidate. I'm like, no, man, this guy could be a rock star in the Senate. So I sort of went all in on that. He did. You know, we won. Won his Senate race, spent a lot of time helping him out on that. And then, like, in the Senate, he was just like. I was like, this is like, we need. We need 50 JD Vances. We need 100 JD Vances in the Senate. But, like, we need, you know, at the time, it was basically a 50, 50 Senate. We're like, we need more JD Vances. He was so good that when it. When it happened, I was like. Like, this is the only one. And part of it for me was like, I don't want it to just be four years of Trump and then we go back to the old ways. I want this to be sort of a transformational presidency. He's the guy that can get it there. He's the guy that's not afraid of breaking those walls, and you need someone else who can then carry that. Like, we didn't have a sort of like, America first bench.
- [45:00]
Sean
Right.
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Donald Trump Jr.
You know, I mean, you know, a couple years ago during the primary was like, you know, before the primary started, I was like. Like, I was, you know, a leader in the. I'm like, it's great. Like, I appreciate. It's a great compliment, but I'm like, I've never expressed an interest in actually running for office necessarily. You know, I mean, so it's like, you know, I can't be at the bench. You need someone who actually wants the day job, too. And so, you know, I Saw that as someone who can definitely, you know, be one of the guys that could carry that torture. I think, you know, other guys are starting to come out, but we had to just get rid of that stranglehold of these rhino Republicans had on the Senate and started slowly flipping. And I think we did that, you know, with the Tim Sheehy and with the Bernie Moreno and these things this cycle. You know, I think we have a great chance of sort of cycling out some of those bad Republican senators that, you know, just cost us all these things. So, you know, I went all in on J.D. i think, with my dad for the VP thing. I mean, you know, there were a lot of billionaires that had their chosen. And, like, the guy's like, guys. I was like, no, no. Like, you have no choice. It was funny after that first debate or the. The only debate with Tim Walls, because I don't think. I don't think Tim would have subjected himself to another thrashing like that. I was doing the spin room, and I was in there for, like, two hours. You know, you go do the media row and like, you're just interview after interview after. And my phone's ringing in my pocket. I'm. I. I get out of this thing. It's like one in the morning, and it was my dad like 12 times. I'm like, Like, I. And he, he. I pick up the phone, he goes, you know, don, I did that one for you. But that was a 10, Don. That was a 10. It's always like. And JD was crushing it on the Sunday shows when he was just sort of handing it to these reporters that are used to sort of the Republican just sort of accepts the Democrat narrative. Like, okay, fine, January 6th was an insurrection. But, like, he didn't do that. He took the fight to them. He sort of just beat him to death with facts. Just destroyed him. And, you know, the debate was sort of the final. There were a lot of Republicans that came up to me, some of that, you know, big. Like, I was so mad at you for pushing that because I thought XYZ would be the guy. And he was like. And they were like. And I was totally wrong.
- [46:54]
Sean
That was me.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Was it you?
- [46:56]
Sean
That was me.
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Donald Trump Jr.
That was you. Who was your guy?
- [46:59]
Sean
I don't know. I just. For me, I wasn't as involved in politics, so I didn't even know who he was. Yeah, you know, he wasn't a front runner.
- [47:04]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, okay. Yeah, there were a lot of guys. There were a lot of guys that did know, but. But again, they had their Guy. And I also want to make sure it's not like I don't want the sort of. Just the simple. The billionaire class controlling their puppet candidates to do whatever they want. Like, it was like, there's a guy, you know, independent, thinker, created businesses, came out of, you know, serious hardship growing up, you know, to become, you know, not. Not just a successful businessman. You know, he went to Yale after going to the Marine Corps. Not. Not as like, okay, I went to Yale, and I'm going to do my obligatory in. Somewhere in the. You know, like, sort of, you know, just an amazing story. And so I was like, I. I really. I. I expect. I don't think I have any political capital with my father for, like, the next 75 years.
- [47:45]
Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Because I went so hard on any. It, you know, created some headaches, and there were a lot of people pissed off about it, but I think. I think now I've been totally vindicated.
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Sean
Yeah. I love it, man. Tom Holman's one of my favorite guy, man. I can't wait till he gets an action.
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Donald Trump Jr.
It's needed. He's gonna be great. He's. He's been a good friend for a long time. You know, it's what you need. You need guys that just have, you know, the balls to actually do these things.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
You know, like, it's. What America. I mean, like, when you see these things, especially in those, you know, border states and everything like that, like, it's a plurality of America. It's not like it's like, it's a close issue. Like, there's a lot of people that want this, you know, much more than 50%, and it's like, we got to do that. We got it. I mean, think about the stats, Sean. Like, 600,000 criminals allowed into the country. This is from the US government stats. They know they're criminals, and they let them in anyway. Wow. 13,000 murderers. Like, who would let a murderer into a country? 16,000 rapists and sex offenders. They know the numbers and they're telling us, and they let them in anyway. Like, I'm like, fine. Some sort of work or whatever it may be. Fine. You let a couple of people in. I. I got some of it. Like, you know, the guy committed murder, and you're like, nothing we can do. We need to pat the fucking voting blocks. It's insane. Like, it's so frustrating. Madness. Yeah. I mean, 16,000 sex offenders, and it's like, it.
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Sean
I heard him on tucker Carlson saying 12 million confirmed illegal immigrants in the country.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And I bet it's more like, imagine how many they don't know.
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Sean
Right.
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Donald Trump Jr.
What about the terrorists? You know, if they caught 75, whatever it is, terrorists, imagine how many got in. Like, they're more sophisticated than someone that's spending their life savings having a coyote drive them across. I mean, these are people that are tied to networks that are well funded. If they caught 75, imagine how many they just didn't catch because they were able to get in through more sophisticated beings. Imagine how many of those cells are forming around the country. And it's like. And they just allowed it to happen. It's literally if, you know, the sort of. If you invoke the sort of proverbial Manchurian candidate. If you look at the Democrat policies of the last four years, and you were to say, like, if you were an enemy of America and you had control of America, what would you do differently to destroy America, then? What would you do differently than, say, Democrat policy of the last four years? The answer is nothing. You'd literally do nothing. It's literally hard to believe they could represent any Americans, given the insanity of the policies. It's so scary. And it's. Yeah. So hopefully that all changes. So we gotta, you know, we gotta get after it. And hopefully it's not just four years, it's gonna be 12 years.
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Sean
I hope so. I think that's needed because it takes time to implement the changes.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Like, everything takes time. I think my father's the perfect sledgehammer to break down this stuff, Elon, being involved, like, to expose it to the American people, to break it down. And then you need people that can then run with it and continue that. You can't just. Have you saw how quickly, with Joe Biden, just thousands of executive orders in two minutes, undo everything. Then even last week, trying to sell off the remaining parts of the border wall that were paid for, like, why, you know, the American people gave a mandate. You're just going to keep letting them in? Because, again, it's not about being good to immigrants. It's about changing voting demographics and voting blocks in various states.
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Sean
Yeah. And like you said earlier, that's probably not even Biden doing that stuff.
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Donald Trump Jr.
He doesn't know what's going. Come on. Like, no. If Joe Biden pulled up in an Uber, Sean, are you getting in it?
- [51:04]
Sean
No.
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Donald Trump Jr.
No, you're not. You, like, you. You wouldn't let Joe Biden run a convenience store. Like, but, you know, so, like, I don't think anyone actually believes he's running the country. We'd like to know who Is. I'd like to know who is. They're certainly not elected officials. Right. And again, that, you know, that's scary. So exposing that deep state, it's very real, it's very aggressive. When you look at all the coincidences, when you look at all the conspiracy theories that have proven to be true, like there's no other plausible explanation than to say that that's obviously happening.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And I think that's why they were fine with Kamala Harris. She didn't need to be competent because they were still making the decisions.
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Sean
Absolutely. You saw the FBI got caught editing crime statistics.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, of course. You know, or they'd conveniently release them like after a primary or after an election, or they. They'd go back and edit it. But that's no different than the job numbers.
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Sean
Right.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Name. When they went with the job numbers or the economic statistics, they'd look at this glowing report, you know, next cycle. Well, it's been adjusted down. Well, you showed me something that's good. The adjusted number, which was real, was really bad, but that's like page 37, you know, on the back page. So you're literally lying to the American public. And it's one thing if you get it wrong once, if you're edit, you know, revising the statistics down to a really bad number from what was a decent number or even a good number. It's so much six, seven point swings. There's no way they don't know that. They just don't care.
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Sean
And no one's held accountable for that. No accountability, did nothing.
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Donald Trump Jr.
That's why I've gotten some grief from the mainstream media for it. I was like, expand the press room. Like, get, you know, get guys like you. Let them have a seat in there, please, because, like, you know, let Rogan be in there. You know, the New York Times has been a propaganda, you know, you know, propagandist for the Democrat party for years. You look at the stuff that they lie about. Same with a lot of that mainstream media. If they're only functioning as the marketing arm of the Democrat party, then just because you've been there a long time doesn't mean you get to keep that seat. It's sort of like members of Congress, like, they get to be in charge of committees they know nothing about because they're prestigious and they've been there a long time. As opposed to having someone who knows what they're talking about actually on those committees. Yeah, like the press briefing room should be. Open it up to everyone who's actually Credible, who has a following, who has an audience. Let people have that real information, not where something's told there. And then it's filtered through that lens of that mainstream media, which is doing literally the bidding just again, of one side.
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Sean
And they would get way more views if they did that too.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Oh, 100%.
- [53:20]
Sean
Like MSNBC is struggling. ABC struggling.
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Donald Trump Jr.
They're all struggling.
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Sean
I mean, they're not pulling numbers. Like Theo Vaughn is like hot Joe Rogan.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Not even close. I mean, it's. And the numbers are down 40% from where they were a year ago. It's like people get it, you know, so, you know, why is someone with, you know, 1, 100, the following of someone else? Why do they get the front row seat? The other guy's not even allowed in the room.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
You know, why is it only sort of the left wing? You know, you may not agree with everything that Breitbart says, but, like, you can't. The guy only gets in the room once in a while. Yeah. Why, like, expand it. Let 10 times more people in there. You know, hold people accountable. Don't just give that legacy media that front row. And the only people that get to ask questions because they haven't earned that right anymore. They've proven, frankly, that they don't deserve that right at all based on what they've done and what's been demonstrably proven to be all of the lies that they peddled.
- [54:14]
Sean
Absolutely, Donald. It's been fun. Where can people find your podcast and keep up with you?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, I'm on Rumble, my triggered podcast. I do a couple days a week on there, Mondays and Thursdays at 6pm they can check me out there, obviously on the usual social platforms, you know, Twitter, Truth, Insta, all over the place. You can probably find me if you look, at least on X. I won't be. I won't be banned anymore. But there was a time where you, you know, I'd show up on maybe page 20 of the search algorithm for my exact handle.
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Sean
Yeah.
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Donald Trump Jr.
So hopefully some of that's changing for the better, but. Yeah, check it out. I appreciate it, man.
- [54:47]
Sean
Yeah. See you guys.
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Donald Trump Jr.
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