Morgonn McMichael: Birth Control's Hidden Impact on Motherhood Revealed | DSH #1469

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Digital Social Hour Episode Summary
Episode: Morgonn McMichael: Birth Control's Hidden Impact on Motherhood Revealed | DSH #1469
Release Date: July 29, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Morgonn McMichael, Contributor at Turning Point USA

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1. Birth Control's Impact on Motherhood

Morgonn McMichael opens the discussion by addressing the controversial topic of birth control and its influence on women's desire for motherhood. She asserts that birth control diminishes the desire to become mothers, linking this to declining birth rates among younger generations.

• Morgan McMichael [00:01]: "Did you know that women on birth control don't want to be mothers?"
• Morgan McMichael [00:07]: "When you are on birth control, your desire for motherhood and actually wanting to have a child is not as prevalent."
• Sean Kelly [00:18]: "Wow, that would explain a lot because our generation is not having kids."

2. Personal Journeys from Liberalism to Conservatism

Both Sean Kelly and Morgonn McMichael share their personal experiences transitioning from liberal environments to embracing conservative values. Kelly attributes his shift to witnessing the divisive 2016 election and moving out of the liberal-leaning Jersey.

• Morgan McMichael [01:06]: "What made you change your mind?"
• Sean Kelly [01:08]: "Trump's 16 run is when I started, like, slowly changing."
• Morgan McMichael [01:15]: "I was in high school."

Kelly recounts his time in the Bay Area, highlighting experiences of perceived censorship and bias in his education.

• Morgan McMichael [01:19]: "I was living in Bay Area, in California... my high school gov teacher graded down my papers when I used Fox News versus CNN or MSNBC because apparently Fox News wasn't the truth at the time."

3. The Role of Turning Point USA and Empowering Young Conservatives

McMichael emphasizes the significance of Turning Point USA in providing a platform for young conservatives, especially young women, who lack representation in conservative commentary.

• Morgan McMichael [01:49]: "I got involved actually five years ago... being able to commentate Gen Z culture and politics is pretty cool to see."
• Morgan McMichael [02:30]: "I definitely had a little feminist in me... I am super excited to be in the future. I'm getting married in a month..."

4. Critique of Modern Feminism and Its Effects on Women

The conversation delves into the impact of contemporary feminism, particularly its portrayal of career over motherhood. McMichael critiques the narrative that emphasizes corporate jobs and dismisses traditional female roles, arguing that it leads to dissatisfaction among women.

• Morgan McMichael [02:34]: "A lot of the lies that are told to women through feminism... sitting at a desk eight hours a day because they've never actually been told it's okay to just embrace your femininity and be a woman."
• Morgan McMichael [03:41]: "You have different priorities... it's okay to embrace your femininity and be a woman."

5. Traditional Gender Roles and the “Tradwife” Phenomenon

The discussion shifts to the resurgence of traditional gender roles, with both hosts advocating for the fulfillment derived from embracing inherent roles as spouses and parents. McMichael addresses the backlash against the "tradwife" movement, arguing that prioritizing family over career is a valid and fulfilling choice.

• Morgan McMichael [03:47]: "What a concept."
• Morgan McMichael [03:54]: "The tradwife thing that blew up... your priorities change when you get married."

6. Hookup Culture and Its Societal Consequences

McMichael criticizes hookup culture, linking it to broader societal issues such as declining marriage and birth rates. She argues that the lack of accountability in casual relationships contributes to personal and societal instability.

• Morgan McMichael [08:59]: "Hookup culture I think is something that has destroyed Gen Z..."
• Morgan McMichael [09:37]: "It's why abortion has become such a huge issue in our country..."

7. Abortion: Ethical and Legislative Perspectives

Morgan McMichael offers a staunch anti-abortion stance, advocating for legislative measures to restrict abortion access. She discusses the necessity of viewing abortion as the termination of a human life and supports heartbeat bills with specific exceptions.

• Morgan McMichael [09:42]: "My personal opinion, no. I am pro-life from conception to natural death."
• Morgan McMichael [12:54]: "A lot of lives."

She also critiques Planned Parenthood, highlighting its historical roots and arguing for its defunding due to ethical concerns.

• Morgan McMichael [14:07]: "Fantastic. I don't think federal tax dollars should have ever been going towards that organization."
• Morgan McMichael [15:07]: "They do phenomenal programming with that. And also birth control."

8. Birth Control: Health Implications and Societal Impact

McMichael discusses the negative side effects of birth control, including mental health issues and infertility. She argues that birth control is chemically altering women's brains and diminishing their natural desire for motherhood.

• Morgan McMichael [15:16]: "Birth control, which has harmed women very much."
• Morgan McMichael [16:02]: "Birth control chemically changes women's brains... you can just take birth control. One pill solves all your problems."

9. Government Assistance and Social Systems Critique

The conversation addresses government assistance programs like SNAP, EBT, and Medicaid. McMichael criticizes the abuse of these systems, advocating for reforms to prevent dependency and encourage self-sufficiency among beneficiaries.

• Morgan McMichael [18:45]: "Facts over feelings. It's true."
• Morgan McMichael [18:51]: "The abuse of the system is what I'm not a fan of... processed foods are contributing to obesity."

10. Mandatory Vaccinations and Parental Rights

McMichael expresses opposition to mandatory vaccinations, emphasizing the importance of informed consent and parental authority in medical decisions for children. She criticizes hospitals for coercive practices related to vaccination compliance.

• Morgan McMichael [21:46]: "I was surprised too."
• Morgan McMichael [22:10]: "They cause a scene. They try and threaten you and gaslight you into thinking you're a bad mother or father if you're not wanting to vaccinate your child."

11. Closing Remarks and Future Endeavors

In the closing segment, McMichael shares her excitement about her upcoming marriage and encourages listeners to follow her endeavors online. Sean Kelly wraps up the episode by promoting future content and expressing gratitude towards sponsors.

• Morgan McMichael [22:46]: "We're having a good time here at the Student Action Summit. And I'm just excited, honestly. Wedding in a month."
• Sean Kelly [22:58]: "Stay tuned. Guys, check her out. See you next time."

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Notable Highlights:

• On Birth Control and Motherhood:
  "Women on birth control don't want to be mothers." ([00:01] Morgan McMichael)

• On Feminism's Impact:
  "It's okay to embrace your femininity and be a woman." ([02:34] Morgan McMichael)

• On Abortion Legislation:
  "We would save millions of lives in this country." ([12:54] Morgan McMichael)

• On Government Assistance Abuse:
  "Processed foods are contributing to obesity." ([18:51] Morgan McMichael)

• On Mandatory Vaccinations:
  "You are the parent. The government is not your kid's parent." ([22:02] Morgan McMichael)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly engages with Morgonn McMichael in a candid conversation covering contentious topics such as birth control, feminism, abortion, and government assistance programs. McMichael provides a conservative perspective, advocating for traditional gender roles, pro-life legislation, and skepticism towards current social systems and medical mandates. The discussion offers listeners a deep dive into the challenges and viewpoints shaping contemporary conservative thought.

Transcript

[Sean Kelly]

Like, they would all celebrate.

[Morgan McMichael]

And it's unfortunate how they celebrate abortion. Did you know that women on birth control don't want to be mothers?

[Sean Kelly]

Really?

[Morgan McMichael]

That's been proven now. I saw an article a couple weeks ago about how when you are on birth control, your desire for motherhood and actually wanting to have a child is not as prevalent.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow. That would explain a lot. Because our generation is not having kids. Okay, guys, Morgan McMichael back on the show. We're at Student Action Summit, Turning Point USA contributor. It's been a fun event so far.

[Morgan McMichael]

It has a busy event. It's hot outside. But I am so excited to be here. I mean, thousands of students are here, adults from across the country, and it's pretty awesome to see you this summer.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. This is needed because when I was in college, I had no guidance. I was just in a liberal institution.

[Morgan McMichael]

Getting brainwashed, getting canceled and brainwashed for being a conservative. And thank goodness that Charlie Kirk exists with Turning Point usa. I mean, I know I'm super thankful for events like this. I got involved actually five years ago. And so coming to this event now as a contributor, being able to commentate Gen Z culture and politics is pretty cool to see.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, Well, I was so brainwashed. I was liberal.

[Morgan McMichael]

You were liberal.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Morgan McMichael]

What made you change your mind?

[Sean Kelly]

I grew up in Jersey. I would say Trump's 16 run is when I started, like, slowly changing.

[Morgan McMichael]

Same. I was in high school.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. And getting out of Jersey probably helped.

[Morgan McMichael]

That helped.

[Sean Kelly]

Jersey is a very liberal state.

[Morgan McMichael]

Really. I was living in Bay Area, in California. Grew up. I mean, I was in like the belly of the beast, Silicon Valley, California, where my high school gov teacher graded down my papers when I used Fox News versus CNN or msnbc because apparently Fox News wasn't the truth at the time. So that was funny. 2016 election, though. And I think that was really the turning point for a lot of Gen zers millennials. Seeing how just polarizing that election was.

[Sean Kelly]

I see what you did with. With Turning Point.

[Morgan McMichael]

No pun intended.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. And you were in a sorority too, right?

[Morgan McMichael]

I was canceled in my sorority. Almost kicked out when I was in college. And that kind of led me to Turning Point actually, was because when I was in college, I went to a Turning Point USA event. That's kind of what kickstarted me into this entire conservative movement. And I realized that my voice was so necessary, especially for young women. There were not a lot of female commentators other than, you know, Tomi Lahren, Megyn Kelly. But other than a couple of voices that were kind of on the big scene. There weren't a lot of young Gen z voices in 2020, leading up to 2024 election. More have come now, but I just saw such a necessity for young girls to have somebody that was speaking the truth and not just being an influencer.

[Sean Kelly]

That's so true because I think a lot of young female votes cater to the left. Right.

[Morgan McMichael]

On average 100%. I mean, still today, I think a large part of the feminist movement. A lot of the lies that are told to women through feminism. This fourth wave isn't what we saw with getting the right to vote. And it's really unfortunate how much young women have been lied to. And I think that social media and changing the culture is where we change women's minds.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Were you a feminist back then?

[Morgan McMichael]

A little bit. I won't say I was a full feminist. I was never like super pro abortion. I was never like super feministy. But I definitely had a little feminist in me. And what's so unfortunate is the biggest part was going to college, going to a corporate job, sitting at a desk and. And that being more fulfilling than getting married, staying at home and being a mother. And it really makes me sad when I see women in their 30s that feel like they're more fulfilled sitting under fluorescent lighting for eight hours a day because they've never actually been told it's okay to just embrace your femininity and be a woman. Like, you don't have to compete with men for the rest of your life. And that's something what I am super excited to be in the future. I'm getting married in a month and I couldn't be more excited for this next season of my life.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I'm getting married in three months and. And my girl just keeps the house. Amazing. And we got a great relationship.

[Morgan McMichael]

Isn't it great when men and women can actually fulfill the roles that they were inherently God given? What a concept.

[Sean Kelly]

Nuts. And that whole tradwife thing that blew up, blew up.

[Morgan McMichael]

And I will say one thing about the tradwife phenomenon because I've gotten hate about that of like, well, you're a female, you know, you're engaged, you want to be a stay at home mom. You are about to be a wife. You. Yet you're over here working and posting content. And the one thing I will say to that is that you have different priorities. Your priorities change when you get married. Your priorities shift when you have a job versus having kids. And women nowadays, instead of actually embracing their roles of being a mother, and it's okay to have hobbies. It's okay to like go on a podcast and every now and then going on a podcast, posting on social media isn't me neglecting my future children. You know, you, you are still able to have hobbies. Like mothers and wives have very necessary jobs. And no, that's not sitting at a desk eight hours a day. If you do have a full time job and you are a mother. Yes, you are being selfish and you are neglecting your children and you are not putting them before yourself.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow. The one counter argument that I kind of agree with because it is hard to like live these days is like one income household is pretty hard to pull off.

[Morgan McMichael]

It is.

[Sean Kelly]

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[Morgan McMichael]

Feel the drop and go code yourself. Push back on the dual income household versus single income household. I think we have an identity crisis in our nation right now of entitlement where people feel the need to have luxury items. They need to drive the brand new car, they have to live in a two story, 4,000 square foot home. When in reality it is possible to live on a single income. You have to make those sacrifices for your children. You can be a stay at home mom because when you break down the cost of having much, it costs to have full time childcare. If you're going to work, you're spending close to 30, $40,000 a year to put your kids in daycare.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Morgan McMichael]

So when you break down how much it actually is costing for you to have a job, to have dual income, like the cost benefit of you being a stay at home mom, I think outweighs how much money you would be, I guess, having with your second income. Of course, every family is different, but I think we have this problem in our country where people feel the need to have it all and not make as many sacrifices. And instead of sacrificing your job and actually being active parenting in your children's lives every single day, you're sacrificing them so that you can have this quote unquote, better lifestyle. But is it actually a better lifestyle if your children are being put at a disadvantage by you not being at the home with them every day?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, because there's a lot of trauma when your parents aren't around. It is on the kid.

[Morgan McMichael]

And that's statistics. Like that is truth telling that if your mom is at home with you every single day and your fundamental age is growing up, you are set up for a better path of life. It doesn't matter how much money you're making, you could be a very poverish family. But if your mom stays at home with you and loves you, you're already set up for, I think, more success than somebody who has money but has an absent parent on both sides.

[Sean Kelly]

Absolutely. Would you ever go back on the Whatever podcast?

[Morgan McMichael]

You know, I've been asked that a lot. I've enjoyed my time on the Whatever podcast. I've been on, I think four times now. And the last time I went on was an eight hour show. So that was a little brutal. But I respect Brian with what he does and I do think there are a lot of necessary viral clips and conversations that happen. I'm not opposed to going back on, but I think. I don't think I'd be able to do eight hours again.

[Sean Kelly]

Eight hours is nuts.

[Morgan McMichael]

Eight hours was a long time.

[Sean Kelly]

He invited me on. Plus you gotta drive an hour. Cause it's far.

[Morgan McMichael]

I flew out, it's in Santa Barbara, so I had to fly out, you know, get a hotel room. So I. I think, I think maybe in the future I might go back on, we might do some fun debates. I mean, there's a lot of, I think valuable conversations to be had that come from it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, he's definitely put feminists in there him. And what's that one guy that goes on a lot?

[Morgan McMichael]

Andrew Wilson.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, Andrew Wilson.

[Morgan McMichael]

He's gone. And Andrew's Wife I know has gone on a lot and they do a lot of the debating on there.

[Sean Kelly]

They seem to have a good relationship, honestly, they do.

[Morgan McMichael]

You know, they're married. Like I respect their relationship and it seems like they're bringing a lot of light to the bad culture that is out there, you know. And I think if there's one positive thing that does come from the whatever podcast, which I do feel like I've been able to add, is you have to add light to the darkness.

[Sean Kelly]

Right. Are you against the hookup culture?

[Morgan McMichael]

Oh, 100%, yeah, same 100%. I mean, hookup culture I think is something that has destroyed Gen Z, the notion that you can sleep with whoever you want with zero consequences. I think this is why also abortion has become such a huge issue in our country is that you can have a sacred act, you can do a sacred act with zero repercussions and then have this abortion. It's like there needs to be accountability, right? And I do think that it is detrimental not just to women, but also men. It is why I think our birth rate is down. I think it's why our marriage rates are down because it has fundamentally destroyed women and men in our generation.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you think there's any, any situations for abortions to be acceptable?

[Morgan McMichael]

My personal opinion, no. And I know that's controversial. I, I am pro life from conception to natural death and I think that when we see abortion now it is being used for, I mean just the.

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[Morgan McMichael]

It's being used not what it's intended. I mean it's intended to obviously end a life. And so personally, no, I am completely anti abortion from a legislative perspective, understand why we have these heartbeat bills. And that is something that I do fully support legislatively. And I think that the left could agree with this. And I think this is something that I would love to see happen in the future. Every single state have a heartbeat bill, like with exceptions of incest and with exceptions of sexual. Because if you have those exceptions in there and you say, okay, let's say eight weeks, we'll cushion a little bit more. We won't do six weeks, we'll do eight weeks. I personally believe that is still a human being. That is a life conception. Science proves that. But if you know you are pregnant eight weeks, we would save millions of lives in this country.

[Sean Kelly]

That'd be a lot of lives.

[Morgan McMichael]

A lot of lives.

[Sean Kelly]

Mason the climber, shout out to him. You know who that is? Yeah. So he showed me some late term abortion photos. That messed me up. Honestly.

[Morgan McMichael]

It's her. And you know what I wish that in when you are in public school, sex ed, they teach, you know that sex ed comes from Planned Parenthood.

[Sean Kelly]

Really?

[Morgan McMichael]

In America, public schools are their sexual education. It's coming directly from Planned Parenthood and You want to know what they do not show? They show a birth video, but they do not show an abortion video. And I think that if a abortion video was actually shown mandatory in class, hey, this is what an abortion is. And actually saying it is ending a life. This is what you are choosing to do and showing what that looks like. I think there would be a lot more pro life people in this country, 100%.

[Sean Kelly]

I think if people actually saw it, they would definitely change.

[Morgan McMichael]

And that's what happens is Planned Parenthood doesn't do an ultrasound. They don't actually. They want to take away the fact that it's a life. That's why they say the lies. It's a clump of cells. It doesn't matter. You're making this choice for you. No, you are ending the life of a completely different human being that is not you. And you never actually get to meet that person. You never get to hear their heartbeat when you go in for an abortion. And I think it is detrimental to women.

[Sean Kelly]

Right. What do you think of Planned Parenthood getting defunded?

[Morgan McMichael]

Fantastic. I don't. I don't think federal tax dollars should have ever been going towards that organization. Did you know that pregnancy resource centers outnumber abortion Centers, Planned Parenthood, 3 to 1? And why isn't that talked about more? Why aren't the pregnancy resources that are available to young women talked about more than abortion being an opportunity? And it honestly breaks my heart because I think that every single life is valuable and is worth living because you never know what that person is going to be created to be. We live in America. We don't live in this caste system. You could be born into poverty and end up being one of the wealthiest people in this country. And that is something that is so sacred and special about America is the opportunity that we have. And so when you look at an organization like Planned Parenthood, which was founded by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenist, it is astronomical to me that the feminist movement has been able to.

[C]

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[Morgan McMichael]

Warp that into being pro woman. And so thank goodness that they have been defunded because they do not need a dollar of taxpayer dollars.

[Sean Kelly]

They did phenomenal programming with that. And also birth control.

[Morgan McMichael]

Birth control, which has harmed women very much.

[Sean Kelly]

So.

[Morgan McMichael]

I mean, birth control chemically changes women's brains, who. They're attracted to your cycles. And I think that's something that also women have been lied to is that you can just take birth control. One pill solves all your problems. When in reality that one pill will cause all of your problems.

[Sean Kelly]

I remember when I was in high school and college girls would look forward to getting on the pill. Like they would all celebrate and it's unfortunate.

[Morgan McMichael]

Just like how they celebrate abortion. Did you know that women on birth control don't want to be mothers?

[Sean Kelly]

Really?

[Morgan McMichael]

That's been proven now. I saw an article a couple weeks ago about how when you are on birth control, your desire for motherhood and actually wanting to have a child is not as prevalent.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow, that would explain a lot because our generation is not having kids.

[Morgan McMichael]

Well, and that kind of to me goes back to marriage rates and birth rates. Right. When you look at birth control, if it is chemically altering your hormones and altering who you are designed to be to where you're just completely dewiring yourself and it changes who you're attracted to. Right. Or if you get on it when you are married and all and you're not having to children, it's a no brainer to me.

[Sean Kelly]

So do you think birth control should be banned?

[Morgan McMichael]

I don't think it should be banned, but I don't think it should be free. And I think that needs to be informed consent that when a woman is prescribed birth control, if you want that birth control, you need to know that you're in increase for anxiety, of depression skyrockets, that you could be suicidal, that you will gain weight, you can get acne and probably will, and that these side effects are not going to be able to be fixed. Guess how many, like there are thousands of women that are on birth control and on some kind of ssri. They're on anxiety and depression meds because. And guess what? The anxiety and depression is caused by the birth control. But the pharmaceutical companies are never held reliable for those side effects. And it's unfortunate that these women go in for minor periods, they go in for minor anxiety, they go in for management of hormones. But birth control is not helping regulate your cycle. It is completely, completely dewiring and irregulating your cycle. And I think that we are in a chronic illness, we are in a gut health issue in our country where instead of people actually finding out what is wrong, they're just being prescribed this pill and unfortunately it's hurting them.

[Sean Kelly]

A lot of infertility issues right now.

[Morgan McMichael]

A lot of infertility. And why is no one asking, hey, maybe birth control might be causing your infertility?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I think it definitely might be because it is.

[Morgan McMichael]

It 100% is.

[Sean Kelly]

You see the Candace verse 20 feminist video?

[Morgan McMichael]

I did.

[Sean Kelly]

What do you think of that?

[Morgan McMichael]

Candace is a phenomenal debater. She knows her facts and especially when it comes to these women's issues. I mean, I honestly, I couldn't think of someone better to debate them. And I'm a big fan of the jubilee videos and I think these feminists honestly need to hear the truth. It's raw, honest truth. Get off your birth control, start eating whole foods and I guarantee you'll be a lot happier of a person.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I thought she crushed it because she used to be a feminist so she could speak from experience. Experience, Right. And now she sees what. People are crazy. I can't believe some of the girls on those videos. I couldn't believe it.

[Morgan McMichael]

Yeah. And I think, and I, I would be willing to bet that most of those girls are on birth control.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, probably.

[Morgan McMichael]

Mood swings, your irritability, your anxiety, your depression, your infertility. I would be willing to bet that the majority of quote unquote, women's health issues does stem from birth control.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a good comeback if I'm ever debating a feminist.

[Morgan McMichael]

Yeah. Are you on birth control? Yeah, they might. So it's kind of like, you know, are you on your period? Like, you know, they might get offended.

[Sean Kelly]

But facts, facts over feelings.

[Morgan McMichael]

Facts over feelings. It's true.

[Sean Kelly]

You tweeted out you're not a fan of wic, SNAP and ebt. Oh, that's a hot take, right?

[Morgan McMichael]

That's a hot take. Listen, it's not that I'm not a fan. I do think that it is necessary for some Americans. Some Americans do need that kind of government assistance. This is really controversial, especially because a lot of the Wicks SNAP EBT cards are being taken away or decreased. After this bill was just passed in the House and the Senate, Trump signed it, the big beautiful bill. And what I have to say is that the abuse of the system is what I'm not a fan of is that there are countless thousands of families and individuals who have been on these cards and are getting thousands of dollars of government assistance every single month. And it's not free. It is taxpayer funded. And what does that say, say to the millions of hard working Americans who maybe do live under the poverty line, but they are working 812 hours a day so that they can actually provide for their family and they have that grit. Section 8 housing. Same is not forever. That is so that you can work hard and get off your feet so that you can be a productive member of our Society. So the biggest controversy I have is a, they're given a lot of money and for too long. Second of all, there are no restrictions on the food. Well, there are some restrictions, let me rephrase that. There are some restrictions on the food that you can purchase. And you can get whole foods, you can buy meat, you can buy vegetables. But unfortunately a lot of these families are taking advantage of the system and only using the processed foods. And I want to compare this to also Medicaid because a lot of these families are also on Medicaid for their government assistance. So they're buying over processed foods, they're eating unhealthy and then at the same time they're also having to be prescribe medication for diabetes. They have to go to the hospital more often. They have chronic illness. And that I think is what is horrible to see in our country is the abuse of the system. And my question is why on an EBT card can you buy soda? Why can you buy sugary cereal? Why can you buy over processed foods? Because we have seen time and time again it is not more expensive to eat whole foods. You can buy ground chicken, you can buy ground turkey, you can buy steaks. But it's an education problem in our country. And I think that there just needs to be reform, which I know is happening, but it's the abuse of the system. You shouldn't be buying hundreds of dollars worth of processed foods in creating more obesity in this country. If you are living on government assistance, then you need to have education and actually be, I think, eating a little bit healthier and be working to get off of those cards. The system isn't designed for you to live on it forever.

[Sean Kelly]

More obesity and more money towards big Pharma too.

[Morgan McMichael]

Yep.

[Sean Kelly]

They become a never ending customer.

[Morgan McMichael]

It's a cycle. Government assistance, Big Pharma, big food.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. They're all working together, right?

[Morgan McMichael]

Pretty much.

[Sean Kelly]

Pretty much, yeah. I mean, they get started on medications for their whole life at that point.

[Morgan McMichael]

I mean, you're a, you are literally hooked on pharma for the rest of your life, every single month. Get your prescription.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. I was not a fan of the new coveted vaccine that just passed. Did you see that either?

[Morgan McMichael]

I'm not a fan.

[Sean Kelly]

I was surprised that came out of.

[Morgan McMichael]

I was surprised too.

[Sean Kelly]

I'd love to see their side of it. I'll give them time to explain it.

[Morgan McMichael]

But I'll see the facts. I want to look at it. I'm not a fan. You know, the mRNA, I think it's, it's not Great. I don't think any of the vaccines, honestly, should be mandatory.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, hell no.

[Morgan McMichael]

Like, if you. And the fact that even, like, when you go to a hospital, you know, if you don't give some of your. Some of the vaccinations to your newborn baby, hospitals threaten Child Protective services.

[Sean Kelly]

They cause a scene.

[Morgan McMichael]

They cause a scene. They try and threaten you and gaslight you into thinking you're a bad mother or father if you're not wanting to vaccinate your child. And I think that's honestly, like, criminal.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. They try to guilt you. I've had recent friends that have had babies, and they won't let you leave.

[Morgan McMichael]

At certain hospitals, they literally tell you, you cannot leave this hospital unless you give this child a vitamin K shot.

[Sean Kelly]

And more shots and more shots.

[Morgan McMichael]

And the vaccine schedule is not the same it used to be. I mean, informed consent. You are the parent. The government is not your kid's parent. And we need to continue to push back. I mean, it's a little tyrannical.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Morgan, where are you going next? Where can people find you?

[Morgan McMichael]

Keep up with you all over the place. We're all over the Internet. If you can spell my name, you can find me. M O R G O N N. We're having a good time here at the Student Action Summit. And I'm just excited, honestly. Wedding in a month.

[Sean Kelly]

Congrats, honeymoon.

[Morgan McMichael]

All the content from there on out. It's gonna be fun.

[Sean Kelly]

Stay tuned. Guys, check her out. See you next time.