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Muslim Leader Exposes Who’s Really Controlling War | DSH #1961
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| DSH #1961 Is America fighting its own war… or someone else’s? Hassan returns to the show for a heated conversation on faith, money, power, Israel, Islam, war, and why he believes Americans are being pushed into conflicts that do not serve them. This episode starts with a deeper conversation about wealth, charity, and why material success eventually stops feeling meaningful unless it is tied to service. Hassan breaks down how Islam views money, why Prophet Muhammad chose humility over power, and why giving back is central to a spiritual life. Then the conversation moves into the most controversial topics of the moment: Epstein, Israel, Iran, AIPAC, Trump, Zionism, war, media programming, and the way Americans have been taught to view Muslims. Hassan argues that Islam is being targeted because it challenges the systems built on war, interest, hedonism, and division. He also explains why he believes Americans are waking up, why social media changed the narrative, and why faith ...
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Hassan
The same people covering up the Epstein files. The same people that engage in child sacrifice. Child. The same people that are promoting war and conflict. Their number one enemy is Islam. You could see wrong is wrong. And if you start to justify the killing of children to support your religious perspective or to support your political perspective, then you sold your soul to the devil. How many American politicians are loyal to AIPAC than to Israel over America?
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Host
Okay, guys, got Hassan back on the show his second time on and fresh off a couple of big debates. Thanks for coming, man.
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Hassan
Thanks man. Great to be back.
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Host
Yeah. I'm in your hometown now, right?
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Hassan
No, la. Well, my dad lives here, so I come out quite frequently. I think I've been here three, four times the last couple months. A lot of great people, a lot of great things happening.
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Host
Nice. You got a lot of clients out here, I bet too.
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Hassan
I do, yes. It's been a blessing, you know, I'm really passionate about identifying people that have been successful in their various fields, especially here in media and influence, but who care about giving back. Because unfortunately you often see that people, they accomplish a lot of material success, but they're empty inside. And you know, only the first 20, 30, 40,000amonth really is going to have a positive impact in your life. After that, the pleasure is found in giving back. So it's been a blessing to come out here, meet with some very successful people and talk about how we can have a positive impact for this world together, especially in these crazy times that we're witnessing.
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Host
That's what I've noticed. It's. For me, it's I think around 40k a month. Yeah, after that I don't know what to buy anymore.
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Hassan
No, it doesn't bring pleasure. And then it's a responsibility, you know, God's entrusted us with this wealth, but you can't be close to the Creator if you don't use what he's giving you to serve his creation. And that's what I found with a lot of these high net worth friends that I have. Man, once we start doing charity projects together, once they see the orphanages we're building, once we see the hate we're pushing back against and the positive impact their wealth is able to have on the lives of others, that's where they really find joy, you know. Otherwise, you know, what you possess really can possess you, you know, and that's why, you know, we have to remember wealth is a means, it's a tools. And that's one of my favorite prayers is, oh, God, put the world in our hands. But not in our hearts. I don't know if I mentioned this last time, but the material world, it's like the ocean, right? If the world and our hearts are like the ship, if the world enters into our hearts, it sinks us. And I think what's destroying a lot of people's happiness, peace of mind, tranquility, is instead of possessing their possessions, their possessions are possessing them. They become slaves to it. That's all they worship, that's all they seek, that's all they believe brings them happiness, forgetting that it's a tool. And the real happiness is found when you use it to change the lives of others around you for the better.
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Host
Yeah, yeah, I know in the Bible it mentions giving back to those in need, right? The homeless. Does it mention that in the Quran too?
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Hassan
100%. I mean that the whole essence is a true believer is one who gives from what God has given him. You know, when God gives you wealth, you're entrusted with it. God loves to see you enjoy that wealth. So, you know, buy nice clothes, eat good food, live a grateful life. But what the Quran says for the family of David, which is, you know, David is also a biblical figure, is do, O family of David. Gratitude. It doesn't say say gratitude, it says do gratitude. Because gratitude isn't about just what you say, it's about what you do. Do you use your wealth to help those that are needy? Do you use your wealth to uplift others? If you do, not only does that make the world better, but it really brings the joy in your life and then that is the wealth you really preserve. Because when we die, we're not taking anything with us. And that's what people forget. Death is inevitable. And we're not taking our possessions with us. The only good that we take is the good that we send ahead. It's the actions that we do, those are what result in true spiritual wealth when the soul goes on. So whatever wealth you just use for yourself for a good time, that wealth dissipates the wealth you use to help the poor, the needy, to support the oppressed, to feed the hungry. That is wealth that is stored with God for you, with your soul forever.
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Host
What was Muhammad's wealth? Was he pretty loaded?
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Hassan
You know, so it's amazing. Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, refused to keep wealth in his home.
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Host
Really.
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Hassan
He would be given gifts, sometimes a lot of wealth, gold, animals. And before the end of the day, he would have it all distributed to the point where once he was gifted a lamb, and so he spent the day he gave out all of the lamb except the leg he kept for his family to eat. And his wife asked him, why did you give away the whole lamb except the leg? And he said, because the reality is I kept the whole lamb except the leg. The leg we eat, we lose. The lamb we gave in charity, the that is with God invested with us and we will have it on the day we need it most when we return to God. The Prophet Muhammad, we believe Gabriel came to him with an angel and said, listen, God has allowed this angel. If you so wish, it will make the mountains of Mecca gold for you or you can live as a humble servant. Do you wish to be a servant worshiper of God or a king worshiper of God? Prophet Muhammad looked at Angel Gabriel and Gabriel did this stay humble. He said, I rather be a humble servant of God. I eat one day and I go hungry one day that I can give thanks and give gratitude and have empathy to those that are needy. Once he was actually walking around at night and he ran into his companions and they were all asking what's going on? And they all had stones tied to their stomachs to ease off the pain of the hunger. He used to pray, oh Allah, make the provision of my family just sufficient for the day. He was not one that loved to keep wealth at once, even his wife. He used to sleep on a straw mat. She folded it so that he would get more comfort. And he woke up and he said, did you do something different? She said, yes, I folded the mat. He said, no, don't do that. Because I found it more difficult for me to wake up in the middle of night to worship God because it was too comfortable. You know, he wasn't looking for the kingdom of this life and in fact that's what's powerful. And he started preaching his message and remember what was his message. So the Arabs were a society that were governed by classist wealth. It was the powerful and the wealthy against the weak and the hungry. And he started saying, listen, God doesn't look at your wealth. He looks at your actions. He looks at your sincerity. He looks at your humility. He looks at the good you do for others and that these idols of wood and stone are not your God. God is unimaginable. He is beyond time and space. He's not some idol that you carve with your own hands. Worship God alone. We came from God. We're going to return to God and be good to your fellow man. They hated that message because it was disrupting the social order. In that social order, it's the wealthier you were, the more powerful you were, the more beloved to God they believed you were. So when he's preaching a message of equality, that it's not your wealth that sets you apart, but your actions and your character. They were afraid you would disrupt the social order, so they literally went to him and they said, listen, if you're after wealth, we will all chip in from our wealth and make you the wealthiest amongst us. If you're after woman, we'll give you the most beautiful woman from our daughters to marry. If you are after power, we will make you our leader. But just stop preaching this message of monotheism and oneness and equality. We'll make you the wealthiest, the most powerful amongst us, but give up this message. And if he was truly after material good, well, mission accomplished. They would have made him ruler of Mecca, which was the heart and the hub of Arabia at the time. He said, listen, if you were to put the moon in my right hand, the sun in my left hand, or vice versa, if you were to give me the sun and the moon, that I control it, I would not give up preaching this message of gratitude to God alone. This life is a mirage. It's a simulation. We're here for a short time. We're going to return to God. We have to answer to God. And we won't be successful if we start worshiping gods of wood and stone or we start oppressing each other based on wealth. That was his message.
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Host
It's come a long way.
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Hassan
Yes. And that's the incredible thing, is that he was an orphan in Arabia, calling towards equality amongst humanity, calling humanity to worship God alone. And he was oppressed and persecuted. Him and his followers tortured, killed, targeted. And yet his message now has reached every corner of the earth. And the Muslim community is united globally. You know, I meet people in Africa, Kenya, Europe, around the world. And when we see each other, we say, peace be with you. And we hug each other as brothers and we invite each other to eat at each other's homes. Even though we never met, we just bumped into each other at the mosque. But it's universal brotherhood. That's what's so powerful about Islam. And that's exactly why now the elite pedophile, warmonger, corrupt people are targeting Islam. If you want to see where the truth is, look at who the most evil people in the world are targeting. The same people covering up the Epstein files. The same people that engage in child sacrifice child. The same people that are promoting war and conflict. Their number one enemy is Islam because It frees humanity from being slaves to. To wealth, from being slaves to desires, from being slaves to nationality, to ethnocentrism. It frees humanity to worship one God alone and to be united. And they're afraid of that unifying force. A unifying force that brings all people together. Chinese, Asian, American, white, European, all as brothers. And saying, listen, we actually share a modern, a universal set of morals. Right? It's wrong to drink until you're intoxicated. It's wrong to engage in wars just to gain land and kill innocent, innocent children. It's wrong to oppress one another. Let us be united. It's wrong to have interest, which makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Right? All of these things, you know, onlyfans. All this crap that destroys society is wrong. That's what they're afraid of. A universal, unifying message that unites humanity around morals. Morals that destroy the economic systems, that let these billionaires be on the track to become trillionaires. I mean, these guys profit off of. They profit off of interest. They profit off of war and violence. And Islam is a powerful message against all that. That's why they're targeting Muslim community.
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Host
So. Yeah, I actually didn't see any Muslim in the files.
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Hassan
Exactly.
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Host
That's pretty crazy.
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Hassan
It's exactly. Exactly.
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Host
A lot of, you know, a lot
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Hassan
of Christians, a lot of those that are the strongest supporters of Israel, and I think there's the link. Look, there's no doubt about it. Epstein was an agent for the Mossad and for Israel, and all of these corrupt politicians have sold their soul. Why do you think right now Trump dragged us to attack Iran? We're fighting Israel's war.
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Host
Yeah.
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Hassan
Our children, our sons and daughters as Americans, are going overseas to die for a foreign nation. If that's not treason by our leadership, I don't know what is.
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Host
They just announced today they're going to send troops on the ground.
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Hassan
That's insane. It's like we haven't Learned from spending 20 years and trillions of dollars to replace Taliban with Taliban. Regime change doesn't work. You know, regime change is more likely to happen in the US because of what we're doing than it is to happen over there. But why should our sons and daughters die for Israel's interests? It's clear Epstein was in favor of attacking Iran. It's clear that's what Israel wanted. You have the top counterterrorism official resigning. Yeah, who? If. If he doesn't understand global peace and security, no one does. And if Trump wants to backtrack and say the guy didn't know what he was talking about. Well then why was he the head of counterterrorism? And why didn't you fire him? So that's obviously a lie. And either way, even if it was true, it makes matters worse. Why would Trump put people in power that don't deserve it? But nonetheless, he saw, he said, listen, there is no strategic benefit or advantage for America to attack Israel. It may to attack Iran. Yeah, it may benefit Israel, it may benefit the companies and the investors that make billions off of selling weapons of war, but it doesn't help the average American that now has to struggle to fill their gas tank, that can't afford to pay rent, that can't afford groceries. And so the people of Iran suffer, the people of America suffer, while these billionaire pedophiles are benefiting and profiting. And the only way they can really advance that agenda is by promoting anti Muslim hate. You have to see the victims of these bombs as being less than human. Yeah, you know, I mean, how else do we tolerate, on the very first day of bombing, over 175 Iranian school children were killed. We literally also took out their government leadership. I mean, what would we say of another nation if they attacked us? And the first day they take out our president and they also bomb our girls school and kill almost 200 of our girls. I mean, isn't that terrorism? Isn't that evil? And so a person of God, their loyalty isn't to any particular person, person in a position of power. Their loyalty is to ethics and morality and principle as a person of God. Regardless whether you come from a Muslim background, Jewish background, Christian background, you could see wrong is wrong. And if you start to justify the killing of children to support your religious perspective or to support your political perspective, then you've sold your soul to the devil. You just don't realize it.
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Host
Yeah, that's demonic, right?
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Hassan
Absolutely demonic. And what blows my mind, I may challenge people. Read the second chapter of the Quran. It literally says, if you tell them, cause not mischief on the earth, they say we are but peacemakers. No, they are the transgressors. But they don't even realize it. That's what the Quran says. When you tell these people, stop causing war and havoc and bloodshed, they respond saying, we are peacemakers. You look at Netanyahu, you look at his corrupt government, you look at even Trump, all they keep saying is, we're peacemakers, we have the board of peace, yet they're the ones causing, causing the war. And now if you, you know, everyone should check out Tucker Carlson's work and the BB files. I mean, Netanyahu admitted to a lot of crazy things. Day six looks like it was orchestrated October 7th.
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Host
I mean, October 7th.
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Hassan
Yeah, October 7th. I mean, he literally admitted to committing what would be a terrible federal crime in the US funding Hamas, sending them $35 million a day in cash. He was providing funding. Again, this just helps them advance their narrative. Now, here's what blew my mind, Sean, because I couldn't believe this. You know, one of my recent trips to la, I met with a very prominent Zionist, you know, who's very proudly devout in his faith. And he told me just straight up, like, we believe God promised us Greater Israel, and that includes parts of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iran, Iraq. I mean, it includes a good chunk of the Middle East. And he said, this was promised to us by God and we're going to get it no matter what. And it doesn't matter how many people die for us to get. And I was shocked. Like, people can see this. And I didn't even push back because I just wanted to hear. And I was honestly a bit in shock to hear this. But they're like, yeah, so we hope that the people in the Middle east surrender peacefully. But otherwise. And I asked him, so no matter how many children have to die, no matter how many women have to die, it's okay. Said, listen, it was promised to us. We're going to get it no matter what. So we just hope you do it peacefully. And that's what's wild to think, that God is allowing you at any price to acquire land and power. It doesn't fit well with the heart.
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Host
It doesn't sound like God.
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Hassan
No, it doesn't sound like God because God is one. You and I have the same God. I can't claim to have any special relationship with him, that my blood is more sacred than yours. If I dishonor you, if I steal your wealth, if I cause your blood to be shed, what I'm doing is harming the creation of God. God is just as much yours as mine. And if we think that people have less value before the Creator because of their ethnicity, their skin color, then we're obviously not realizing God is the provider of ethnicities. And it all goes back to Him. It's all part of his beauty. And that's what the Quran says. It's from God's signs that he gave you different colors and different tongues. These are signs of his beauty that we can learn. If the Quran says it isn't that the real righteousness, it comes from your relationship with God and your character, not with your ethnicity or your skin color. And that's what's wild. I mean, you really, really have an entire now nation that is nuclear armed whose leaders believe that the blood of others is less valuable and is expendable for them to achieve their goals. And what they're doing is using their money and their influence in the Epstein files to move American politicians not to act in the of the American people, but rather to act in Israel's interest at the expense of the American people. And Israel did a study, we might mention this last time, Israel did a study that the best way to get support for the American people, to support them using their sons and their tax dollars to advance Israel's agenda is to demonize Islam and demonize the Muslim community. And that's why, listen, when those that are using America against our interests want you to hate something, you should ask, you begin to ask questions. People starting to ask questions. I mean, they're starting to ask questions about 9, 11. Now we're asking questions about October 7th. Everything we've been fed is a lie. We've been programmed as Americans and taught to hate Muslims. Why? Who stands to benefit from that? And what is the message of Muslims? I mean, and you know, it's not working as effectively because what's different is, look, I went to public school, right? I have friends that I've known for 30 years. They've seen me from the dorky kid in elementary school, grow up to be, go to law school, grow up to be a lawyer. They know us in and out. And when they hear what is misrepresented about Islam versus the decades of friendship they know with Muslims and they see how we've grown up, we people who honor God alone, we don't worship anyone but him. And we love to serve his creation. We love to help others regardless of their race or religion. What they see is very different than what they've been programmed to believe. And they're believing their eyes, not their ears, which is a great thing for bringing unity and justice. So I think the next generation is, is not going to be as favorable for what Israel is doing. It's not going to be as favorable for Islamophobia.
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Host
I agree.
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Hassan
You know, and I think people are actually searching for more. Like they want to know where they came from, where they're going. And Islam just has a universal message. God is one. He's beautiful, he's the source of beauty. We came from him, we returned to him, you want to be good with him, be grateful to him, worship him alone and just be good to his creation. Universal message that unites humanity.
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Host
Yeah, yeah. It's almost like we're living in multiple realities. Right. Because you ask a Christian nationalist or a Zionist what's the biggest threat to the West?
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Hassan
They say Islam 100 they do. And, and but ask them their talking points and see where they came from and you can actually, it all goes back to talking points that have come from Zionist funded lobbies and think tanks and institutes that misrepresent Islam. And everything they're claiming about the Muslim community is what they're doing. Right. They're saying we want to take over. How many American politicians are loyal to AIPAC and to Israel over America?
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Host
90.
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Hassan
Literally. I mean you have Lindsey Graham, you have Ted Cruz. They're literally. I became a member of the Senate to protect Israel. That's treasonous. You should become a member of the Senate to serve the American interest. I mean, Lindsey Graham talks more about Israel than does about his home state. You know, he should be the Senator of Israel, not the senator of the people of North Carolina, whichever state he's from. And I think Americans are waking up to it. So there's a lot of funding, hundreds of millions of dollars. People can check out the reports. Fear Inc. Fear Inc. 2.0. Put it in Google, read the report about where the money came from. It came from the Adelsons. You know, it came from very proud and vocal Zionists that have spent hundreds of millions to make Americans fear Muslims. And then they portray Israel as our greatest ally and that must be supported to protect against the threat. Meanwhile, they're taking our tax dollars, they're taking our children literally to die in wars that only benefit them at no benefit to the American people. So they're the biggest gaslighters, brother.
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Host
Yeah. It's the greatest psyop of all time, 100%. And they're using the Bible and weaponizing it, saying we're in the end times.
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Hassan
It's wild. And it's like, look, if you love God, why do you want to bring about the end of times on earth? That's another thing that's very ironic. You know, in the Islamic tradition, we believe there's end times, we believe the Messiah will return, we believe Jesus will return and Muslims and Christians will unite to stand behind him, as we discussed last time. But we are responsible to live and life every single day as if we will live forever in this earth. The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, he taught us he said, if you hold a sapling in your hand, you're about to plant a tree and the Day of Judgment is about to start. You see it about to start still. Finish planting that tree. You're responsible to work this earth for goodness. You're responsible to cultivate the earth. You're responsible to do good work no matter what. You're not responsible for bringing about chaos to bring about the end of times. You know, so people just got to wake up to it, man.
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Host
People are waking up. Yeah, I mean, it used to work. I think pre social media worked really well. Like even myself when I saw 9 11, I was like, programmed to just not dislike but not trust Muslims 100%. And all the movies and the war movies.
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Hassan
Yes. So there's a really good reel you can watch on YouTube called Real Bad Arabs R E L. And it shows how for decades before 9 11, Hollywood, you know, represented Muslims in a way that is very detestable, you know, and building these certain narratives around them. And then sort of 911 sort of sealed the deal. So people were pre programmed, and then 911 was like, see, we told you so. You know, so it's a long time and a lot of money behind it. But again, I think people now are starting to ask the important questions around these issues and hopefully, you know, wake up to take our country back. Because I think, look, there's a political battle and a spiritual battle. On a spiritual side, it makes sense that we honor all the faiths and really respect those who love and honor God the most. I mean, the Bible says you shall know them by their fruits. So look at the fruit of what Israel is doing. Look at the pictures of Gaza. Could anyone who loves God really decimate a city like that? It's impossible. It's impossible. But you look at the fruits of the Muslim community. We're giving charity, we're giving back. So there's that on the political level, though. I mean, it's really time that American politicians put Americans first. And that's why I think we're seeing a lot of, you know, vocal voices right now. Aaron Baker in Florida running against Randy Fine. You got James Fishback, you know, running for governor. And they're saying, hey, let's, let's keep our tax dollars at home. People can't afford to live in the U.S. and meanwhile, we're funding not just bombs, but health care for Israelis when, when we ourselves don't have any.
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Host
We pay for their health care.
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Hassan
We pay for the. More Israelis have health care than, than Americans. It just, It Comes. It's. It's why it's wild. It's wild because again, we're giving them billions in subsidies, but billions in weapons. They have the resources to provide health care. They have the resources to provide free housing, you know, to their people. Meanwhile, look at the homeless problem we got in America. Look at the healthcare problem we got in America. We got to wake up. They're using us.
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Host
Yeah. Yeah. Also, shout out to Dan Bazaran. I think he just announced he's running against Randy Fon.
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Hassan
Yes, he did. And he called me the other day and speaking about running in Florida. So, you know, it's exciting to see voices that live the best of this world from a materialistic perspective. I think Dan is a great example. I mean, he, as he would himself would say, was just lost in the hedonistic circle that they want us to be lost in. Right? Live life chasing pleasure. And what he realized is, as the Quran teaches, as Islam teaches, as all, as Jesus taught, as Moses taught, as Abraham taught, happiness is not found in being a slave to your temptations and to the pleasure. Being a hedonist, living a hedonistic lifestyle, doing everything that yourself desires will leave you empty. If you really want to find happiness, be a force for good in the world, speak truth in the face of injustice, use what God gave you to have a positive impact. And that's why you find people like Dan, who lived a lifestyle that was very different years ago now willing to sacrifice everything to call out Israeli control over America and being willing to really risk and lose, you know, tens, hundreds of millions. I've seen too. He's not Armenian. He's Armenian. Yeah, he's Armenian.
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Host
I thought his dad was or something.
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Hassan
I'm not sure if. If he has any. Any family members that are. But no, he. He's very outspoken, right? Because he, he was again, he grew up in an environment where like many other Americans, just taught to, you know, nine, 11 Muslims, they're the enemy, they're the threat. And now he's like, well, who taught me to think that and why and who does it benefit? And who's actually controlling my government? Who's behind the Epstein, you know, case?
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Host
I have on a lot of veterans on the show, and I feel really bad for them.
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Hassan
They're all waking up and it's terrible because they were the tools and it's. So it's our poor and our sincere and our loyal ones go and die under lies to benefit these elite billionaire pedophiles, you know, And I think that's the Greatest tragedy. So now I think real loyalty, it's not just to obey those in authority, it's real loyalty is to obey the Constitution. That's why I think, especially if members of the military, I mean, Pete Hesketh, or whatever his name is, he's. He's been very vocal about committing war crimes. Yeah, he's been very vocal to give no quarter. You have American generals, so you cannot give an order not to give quarter. You, you cannot bomb, you know, those that are already disabled, like the double taps on the ships that they were doing in South America. There are rules of warfare that apply to everyone. If our enemies were to break them, we would be shouting the moral high horse day and night. And yet now we're doing the same, if not worse. So people have to remember, especially the Nuremberg trials, just because you were ordered to break international rules of war and international law, that's not an excuse. And I think people have a duty to themselves and to God and to the Constitution and to the system of international humanitarian law that they refuse illegal, unlawful orders. You know, and I, and I think more and more now, soldiers are speaking up as people of conscience, saying, I don't want to go die for Israel. You know, that's not what I signed up for. And not only is it's me dying for Israel, but it's me hurting the global economy, it's me hurting the global infrastructure to advance an agenda that just doesn't make sense. I mean, look at where Trump was before all of this. Yes, he was having the Epstein issues, but hey, the dow was over 50,000, you know, points. He had a lot of support from his base, he had a lot of respect. And then it was a bait and switch. And his legacy is going to go down in a very bad way. People are going to ask serious questions, why did he do this? It doesn't help any of the average person agreed.
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Host
His, if he just ended it after his first term, he would have gone down as one of the greatest legend.
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Hassan
Yeah.
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Host
You know what I mean? This second term is destroying his legacy.
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Hassan
And there's no reason. That's the wild thing, right? Because it's not like realistically he can run again. So why still put Israel interests above Americans?
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Host
Why won't run again? But the machine wants.
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Hassan
The machine wants. And the machine doesn't care about the people. And that's why even this, what he's doing, is going to hurt Vance's chances. That's why Vance sort of trying to distance himself. But it's showing, you know, what happened With Gaza, when Israel killed hundreds of thousands of civilians and got away with. Basically told them, you know what, guys, we could actually do whatever we want, you know. So now you see them, we're not even talking about Lebanon. They're doing stuff in Lebanon. Lebanon, they're blowing up just entire residential buildings.
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Host
Israelis.
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Hassan
Yes.
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Host
I didn't even know that.
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Hassan
Yes, yes. Even. You know, there's tweets right now of Americans saying, look, I live my whole life to buy an apart downtown Beirut so that my kids can enjoy summers there, you know, and just entire civilian buildings being blown up. So they basically have the green light to achieve their greater Israel agenda. They know who's going to do anything about it. You know, Trump is in their pockets. It's very disturbing when you can get away with genocide like that in Gaza. Basically just emboldens them to continue going. So, look, I'm a firm believer that Israel is the greatest threat to the American people. Iran is not an enemy of America. Israel is. And I know people may not like that, but think about it. When did Iran blow up an American ship and kill American sailors?
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Host
Never.
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Hassan
Never did Israel. Liberty, right, the USS Liberty. When did Iran perhaps play a hand in assassinating the US President? They're trying to claim these recent things, but I think people need to look into what happened to JFK and what happen once he spoke out against Israel having a nuclear program.
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Host
John Kiriakou shout out to him. He just announced there's tons of files implicating Israel involvement with that assassination that they have not released. He said 10,000 files.
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Hassan
It's wild. They're literally protecting pedophiles and president assassinators that all go back to the same source, these people in Israel. Clearly, the Israeli leadership does not care about the life of those who are not part of their group.
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Host
How do you think they got so powerful for such a small country?
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Hassan
Great question, man. It really goes back, I think, to the Rothschilds, just trillionaire, powerful Zionist families that have used their wealth heavily to control the banks, the financial systems. And again, the problem is we say this and we're called anti Semitic. I don't have a problem with my Jewish brothers and sisters. And there's so many right now, American Jews that are struggling financially because of what's happening. And they stand with us, you know, condemning what Israel is doing. It's ironic, though, because if you see they themselves brag about their power. You know, you had a leader at Meta saying, oh, you know, we actually have been successful in shutting down people that are critical of Israel or Using the term Zionism and claiming that Israel censors America. Well, don't you see the irony? You're celebrating shutting down people who say Israel censors Americans. So. But I think people are now waking up. And the anti Semitic label just doesn't have the same effect because it's been overly used. And the truth of the matter, you know, who the real Semites are are the Palestinians. You know, this is why they outlaw DNA tests in Israel, because it's all these white Europeans, you know, claiming to be part of the lineage, when in reality the. The Palestinians that they're killing are much more Semitic.
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Host
I've heard that in the Native Americans too.
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Hassan
100% crazy, right?
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Host
100. That's why I call it the greatest psyop of all time. Because they're not even in the right.
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Hassan
Right. It's, it's.
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Host
They've hijacked it.
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Hassan
It's really insane. And, and that's why it's refreshing to see people waking up to it. Like, I didn't expect people to wake up like this so much because it's been so heavily programmed in the Muslim community. We're always sort of on the defensive. And, and, you know, heaven forbid you question the 911 narrative some years ago. I mean, now we're finally having powerful voices. And this is why, you know, it's actually great to see Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens starting to ask these questions. And I mean, Tucker and Candace going very strong. And look at the attacks that they're facing. I mean, and so they're shifting who mega is. You know, MAGA has become. It used to be Tucker Carlson and Candace. You know, now it's 11. You know, Shapiro, Laura Loomer, like all these Israel firsters. Yeah, it's wild, you know, did you
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Host
see Cash Patel's telegram bio? The Israel flag to is going before the American flag.
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Hassan
That's insane. And I believe it crazy.
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Host
You know, these guys are Israel first.
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Hassan
That that's what it is. So the American to wake up. They claim Muslims have some foreign. We don't got no foreign, bro. Look, I'm Syrian. I've condemned the Syrian government so much. You know what I'm saying? I've been so critical of all the Middle east governments because again, my loyalty isn't to someone who's on a seat. You know, the thing is, Americans should never be bootlickers. America was founded as a nation of non bootlickers. You know what I'm saying? We didn't just defer to the king in England because That's where a lot of the people who immigrated came from. And the colonists, no, we said we revolted over a 2% tea tax. Now we're willingly paying 40% tax to pedophiles to kill children across the country. And then when you question those in power, you get called all sorts of names, when in reality, hey, we're free people. We're being true patriotic Americans, holding government accountable and asking questions. You know, the founding fathers of this country certainly were not bootlickers. And if you're a bootlicker, you know, you're. You're more so on the other side,
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Host
man, they'd probably be disgusted if they
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Hassan
saw rolling in their graves, you know, rolling in their graves. So we got to wake up. We got to take our country back. And I'm excited. I mean, I think change is happening. The question is, you know, what is the price that must be paid for this change? Because as more and more people wake up, if, if they're not democratically able to take back their government, what's going to happen? The government could use the, the war right now to impose martial law, to take away people's freedoms, to prosecute journalists. We're seeing that happening more and more. And when you have a convergence of tech billionaires, authoritarianism, plus the expose of the Epstein files and the corruption of those in government, while they may consolidate the technology, the AI, the money, the wealth to really crack down on the people, and Gaza showed that those in power can do whatever they want and get away with it. So we certainly should not take our freedom and liberty in this country for granted. We really have to be politically involved. And it's not just the Democrat Republicans. You have people on both sides that are loyal to the machine. We need people to truly be independent. But I do fear for the future of this country if those in authority are unwilling to give it up.
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Host
Fear is an interesting so you actually fear stuff.
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Hassan
I have concern for the future. I mean, at the end of the day, look, I believe nothing will happen except what God permits. And in the end, there's no sad ending for the believers. That's the exciting thing. What's the worst that can happen in this life? They take it from you and you return to the Source. And if you return to the Source, living a life grateful to the Source, loving the Source, remembering the Source, and serving the creation of the Source, you got nothing but peace.
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Host
I feel that.
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Hassan
Enjoy.
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Host
Yeah, I try not to fall into fear and worry because that's what they
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Hassan
want, you know, 100. We have to be driven by love. And that's the interesting. Like, you know, I was speaking to some people and they're very angry about what's happening, right? They rightfully so you see the kids of all the dismembered kids and, and you're outrage. We are not driven by hate, we're driven by love. We love humanity. We love human rights, we love peace and justice. And that's what drives us even when we're aggressive against fighting the injustice. So we should always be driven by love. And then everything comes after that in terms of fear. You know, fear can lead to paralysis. So we shouldn't be despondent. We should remember that. Listen, regardless of the results outwardly, as long as we're fighting the good fight and we're taking the right positions, we're winning. Because this life is a test. And God is testing who will sell their soul, who will sacrifice their relationship with God and who will sacrifice for their relationship with God. You know, we'll be tested with our wealth. We can gain wealth by investing in bombs that kill children. Do we make that move or not? We're tested with speaking. Are we willing to speak out? See, the problem is right now, there's the 25th Amendment for a reason. The President clearly has lost his way. He's acting in America's best interest. But the problem is his cabinet, hand selected by him. They're all bootlickers. They wanna be in with him and benefit from that circle. And so none of them are willing to invoke the 25th Amendment and fix course for this country. So ultimately, life is a test. God is testing each and every one of us. And if we are taking the right positions and we're sacrificing for good, we're winning that test no matter what happens. And you know, one of the great Muslim scholars said, what can my enemies do to me? You know, if they kill me, it is martyrdom. I return to the most beautiful, generous creator. If they imprison me, it is seclusion for me to meditate and deepen my connection with God. And if they expel me, then it is traveling through the land.
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Host
Wow, you know, what a positive guy.
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Hassan
That's it. That's, that's the attitude. This is why they say if the kings of this world knew the treasure within our hearts, they would send their enemies out to get it. Because our happiness and our peace is not dependent on anything out here. Because all of that is external and fleeting. Our happiness is found within our hearts knowing that we're connected with God and we're serving him with each and every breath, which with each and every sacrifice. And we know our return is to him. So what is there to fear? One of my favorite verses in the Quran, oh, I love says those who say our Lord is God alone and they remain upright. They don't compromise their faith and their values out of fear, out of hate, out of desire. They remain upright and principled, seeking nothing but God alone. The angels ascend upon them that you have nothing to fear, nor anything to be sad about and have the good news of the heavens that await you. A gift from the most merciful. People are miserable because they're afraid for tomorrow or they're sad about yesterday. The believer is grateful in the present moment. He's not sad about what happened yesterday because he trusts God and he's not worried about tomorrow because he also knows God is in charge. He's at peace in the present moment. Yet that love will also lead him or her to have concern for the state of affairs of humanity. Because, you know, we're not psychopaths. If you don't have concern for the world around you, that's a problem. So you'll be at peace knowing that you know what, only what God allows will happen to me. But at the same time, you're going to be concerned. You know that that's a sign of someone who loves.
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Host
Yeah, love that verse, man. That's powerful. What are the odds that Israel and U. S loses this war to Iran, you think?
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Hassan
You know, that's a great question because
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Host
I see mixed headlines about it. Some people say we're destroying them and then you see the other side.
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Hassan
You never know what to believe now, especially with AI and the technology and everything it. I think we need to define what does winning mean and what does losing mean? My concern is that if the US And Israel aren't able to accomplish their objectives, that they go down the path of either a terrible massive attempt at a ground invasion or God forbid, nuclear weapons and just lose all sense of human decency. In a sense, the US has already lost in the sense that it didn't achieve its mission. Its. Its mission was to induce immediate regime change. That did not happen. But I worry because my concern is if Israel and America feel cornered, maybe they go to a point of no return. Jeez, you know, and how many innocent people must. And we justify it. Look, we listen, we all went to school, we forget. See, when you're young, you just think this is the way life is and ought to be. You don't realize. No, no, there's actual billionaires that have programmed the curriculum. School was designed not to make people great critical thinkers. School was designed to create a great generation of factory workers that sit in a row that, you know, do what they're told. And that's why the most successful people you see in the world are not the. The A students. They're typically the B. The C students. Exactly. Because they're not going to conform to the programming that they. They want you to do. So, you know, you grew up in school and we're taught, oh, yeah, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was just a necessary evil. You know, we had to do it. Nah, man, I don't know that we have to lie to ourselves and say we have to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians. The problem is, the narrative that is often taught is that these wars that have been fought are fought for good causes and for the benefit of the people, and they're inevitable. We're not realizing that these wars are being funded by the same bankers on both sides that are profiting on either side, that these wars don't serve the benefits of the people of these nations. But a very corrupt elite that don't care about that. They just care about money. I mean, bro, if you have a local gangster who's willing to kill a few people to gain a greater share of the drug sales in his region, you don't think that that grows with the level people are at? So if somebody in his local neighbor is willing to be a gangster and kill people to make some money, well, then the bigger gangster, which maybe is in the White House, is willing to, in a suit and tie, kill millions of people to benefit his investment partners and cronies. We're not even talking about the hundreds of millions of dollars that have been made before each and every one of Trump's announcements or as Trump announces. People are looking into that in insider trading, and it just. We're just getting overwhelmed with corruption. And that's the problem. They're throwing so much at us at the same time, and I think. I think they're being emboldened. Yeah, they can get away with it. But listen, at the end, everyone has to answer to God, and God doesn't let anything go.
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Host
Yeah, it all seems to tie back to money. So as long as we value money the way it is now, I don't know if this is problems going away.
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Hassan
Well, I think they want to go in the direction of, you know, money that is worthless, that is digital, that. That is controlled by the government. You see, that's, you know, A lot of these things that we're excited about, right? The self driving cars. I mean, I have two myself.
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Host
Yeah.
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Hassan
You know, digital wallets, digital money. All of it sounds exciting in the beginning, like a convenience, but we're forgetting it's all going back to the direction of control. You know, they could shut down my car, they could shut down my money. They can only allow me to drive on a certain day, only allow me drive to purchase and at certain times. And that's the direction. Palantir and all this AI and all these billionaires, the same guys that are behind the technology that is used for mass surveillance and can be used for control, are also supporters of Zionism in Israel. There's a link behind Technocrats. You know, it's wild. Yeah. And then you look at what happened with Tick Tock. Now people are getting banned left and right.
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Host
I got banned.
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Hassan
You got banned.
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Host
Yeah, months ago. That's why it was a big loss to the business because we were getting a lot of viewership.
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Hassan
That I can imagine. Bro, you were banned for the sake of Israel. I mean, I don't care what their pretext was. The consolidation of control by Larry Ellison. Nathan Yah himself said the next battle is a social media battle. We need to take TikTok, dude. They're shredding our freedoms for the benefit of, of, of Israel. So again, I'm concerned about the future. The fear isn't there because we know at the end we return to God. Yeah, but, but I do have concerns. And that's why, man, despite all the political work that I do, the legal work that I do, I always take it back to faith. Faith. Because at the end of the day, if you're good with the Creator, you can't lose. And so I love for people to start asking serious questions, ask, why are all these evil people attacking Islam? What is Islam about? And you know, is it possible for me to connect with my Creator? And yes, God isn't distant and his message isn't complicated and you don't have to do mental gymnastics to understand him. Just be grateful to the source. No matter what happens in this world, you're going to be all right once you leave it. And the real losers are those who have lost themselves by selling their souls to do evil. In this very short time, they're going to regret it. When they're resurrected, they'll be asked, how long were you on this earth? They say maybe a day or half a day. They won't feel like it was long. And then they'll say, man, I wish I could go back, that I could do good with the wealth God gave me, not do evil. But it'll be too late. You only got one shot.
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Host
So everyone gets resurrected, Everyone comes back.
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Hassan
Yeah, everyone gets resurrected. And then they have to answer for how they live their life.
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Host
Really.
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Hassan
You know, God uses the example. Just like look at how we revived the dead earth. You know, in the winter, the leaves fall and God brings the trees back to life. We all have our winter. When we die, we return to the earth. But just like the tree comes back, we come back, we're resurrected, and we have to answer. There is justice. Justice in this world is inescapable. Everyone will get what they deserve. You know, And God doesn't let an Adam's weight of good go unrewarded and an Adam's weight of evil go without accountability. He's merciful. He loves to forgive. But we're here to be tested and we're playing for keeps, bro. This ain't no joke. This ain't no joke. Each and every person should imagine the moment where they're sitting in this realm and then all of a sudden they're not. All of a sudden the veil is lifted. All of a sudden they realize this life was a dream, it was an illusion. What regrets would you have? You're not going to be proud of the wealthy kept back. In fact, the Quran says the first thing people say when they die, those who didn't live a good life, My Lord, why didn't you give me some more time so that I could give him charity so I could use my wealth in the way I was supposed to use it? I could see that, you know, don't be a person of regret. We're in a dream world. And if you dream that you're wealthy, that doesn't mean anything for you. You're going to wake up. You're not taking your wealth with you in the same way. It doesn't matter how much wealth we have, the minute the angel of death takes our soul, we're not taking any of it with us. Again, as we mentioned, being the only good we take is the good that we send ahead. And that's why we don't want to be people of regret. We want to people of gratitude. Death is inevitable. And the saddest thing is to live a life just attached to the blessings, but not to the provider of blessings. You know, that's the wild thing. We get so enamored by the gifts, we forget the gift giver, you know, And Islam says, don't Be a slave to the gifts. Be a slave to the gift giver. And he only wants to keep giving. He just wants you to be grateful. Your return is to him. Don't do the greatest injustice. The greatest injustice is to worship other than him. Right? So as a Muslim, I don't worship Muhammad. I don't worship Jesus. I don't worship Moses. I worship the God that they all pray to. Jesus bowed down to pray to God. That's who we worship. That's who our return is. And the message is simple. Live a good life. Don't kill people for wealth, for money. Don't sell your soul. Live a grateful life. But it's a shame more people aren't answering. I think that's what gives me hope. Because I'll be honest with you, bro, if I didn't have faith and I thought all this evil people get away with it, it would drive one mad.
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Host
There's a lot of people like that.
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Hassan
Well, yeah. And you can't argue for morality without faith. If in a hundred years everyone on this earth will be dead and there's no consciousness that goes on, which contradicts everything. Quantum physics, even psychedelics. All the research shows us that we are more than this physical realm. In fact, consciousness is far greater than this physical reality. And so I don't. I don't know how people live a life not realizing that there is an ultimate justice. Otherwise there's literally no purpose to anything. And you can't argue for morality if there's no life after that. Yeah, there's no God, then how can you argue anything's immoral or moral? In a hundred years, none of it will matter because none of us will be around.
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Host
I think within our lifetime they're going to prove simulation theory. There's some people working on it right now that are really shout out to Danny Golan.
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Hassan
Oh, yeah, Danny's incredible. I've seen his work. I've met him. Big fan of what he's doing. Yeah, man, I think it's crystal clear. It's just crystal clear. The world is too choreographed, it's too beautifully designed. You look at the Fibonacci code, you look at the sequences, the signs are everywhere. And you just got to open up your eyes, man. I think the greatest proof for God's existence is that we exist. The fact that I am, that I see, that I hear. The problem is people take existence for granted. To see color, to hear sound, to be present, shows that there's something more than this physical. We're not the physical, right and the greatest things in life aren't physical. What is love? What is hope? What is fear? Consciousness, I think, is the greatest thing and the greatest consciousness is God's consciousness. The consciousness we came from, the consciousness we will return to. So we just gotta open our eyes.
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Host
I know you do debates also. Who do you want to debate next, Man?
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Hassan
I would love to debate Andrew Sudro.
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Host
I'll set that up.
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Hassan
Yeah, please make it happen. You know, I was very happy I bumped into him while I was traveling. He had a shirt. Christ is king. I started a conversation with it.
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Host
Oh, you didn't even plan it. You just.
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Hassan
Oh, no, I didn't even know who he was.
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Host
Oh, wow.
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Hassan
So I saw Christ. I'm like, do you believe Christ? He said, king of Kings. And I said, oh, that's. That's very interesting. We believe God alone is the King of Kings, but we love Jesus. And you started talking like, I'm actually a preacher. I'm like, oh, man, I would love for us Muslims and Christians to build stronger Muslim Christian relationships because I feel like Israel is tearing us apart or invite us. But I didn't realize it's very pro Israel.
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Host
Yes.
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Hassan
So when we sat down, I looked, looked him up like, oops, my bad. Because a lot of his content is strongly anti Muslim. And unfortunately, you know, well, for better or worse, I realize he just doesn't really understand Islam or Muslims as it is, or they may take the worst example of someone claiming to be Muslim and think that represents us. But I actually had very beautiful conversation with him and his wife for several hours at the cafe and I loved it, man. It was, it was an honor to have that conversation and I hope to continue it. My goal against. I don't like there's. People go to debates and their whole intention is like, destroy the other and expose the other, humiliate the other. That's not what it's about. We're all going to die. We got to find the truth together. And you're not going to do that. From place of hate and animosity.
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Host
Agreed.
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Hassan
You know, I would love to have more meaningful conversations with him this time on the record.
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Host
If you're watching this, man, let's do it.
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Hassan
Let's do it.
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Host
We'll. We'll link your law firm below your social media. Anything else you want to.
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Hassan
Yeah, thank you, man. Hit us up@muslimlegal.com if you need good lawyers you can trust and keep asking questions and keep being grateful and just, just ask yourself. I mean, people just got to take this, takeaway Ask yourself, who taught me to think this way and why? And who benefits?
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Host
Love that. Check them out, guys. Peace. Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode, if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear it. I read every single comment. It means a lot to me. Thank you so much.