Nader: Social Media Success Don’t Get Left Behind | DSH #1427

Summary

Digital Social Hour Episode #1427

Guest: Nader Nevada
Host: Sean Kelly
Date: July 1, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this candid and compelling episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly sits down with entrepreneur and former high-level cannabis operator Nader Nevada. They trace Nader's experiences with federal investigations, the drastic shifts in the cannabis industry, and the larger implications of evolving laws and social attitudes. The discussion is both unfiltered and insightful, exploring how success, hustle, legal risks, and social media intersect in today's world. Nader provides rare first-hand perspective on "the game," then and now, and what it means to adapt and thrive in ever-changing economic and social climates.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Life Under Federal Supervision

Timestamps: 00:40–03:31

• Nader recounts spending 17 years "either out on bail, under investigation, or on federal supervision" ([01:21]), from 2007 to 2024.
• Expresses relief at finally regaining freedom and the ability to travel again, including getting his passport back.
• Story begins with a state case that garnered police attention due to early posts on social media, later escalating to federal charges involving marijuana.

Quote:

"There hasn't been a day since April of 07 to August of 24 that I haven't been either out on bail, under investigation, or on federal supervision."
— Nader Nevada ([01:21])

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2. The Federal Case: Scale, Loyalty, and Outcomes

Timestamps: 01:43–04:41

• Nader details a major federal marijuana case involving "22,000 pounds" (~10,000 kg); describes being caught up due to close association with his best friend (the main target).
• Praises his friend for refusing to cooperate with authorities: "They actually told him, man, we take half the time off you if you tell on him. And he said no." ([02:56])
• Notes their group loyalty was rare: "All the top people where we were at, nobody told on each other. Super rare." ([03:14])
• Federal conviction rate cited at "98%"—emphasizes inevitability of some form of plea deal.

Quote:

"The feds don't come until they already got you. Like, the feds is pretty much open and check case...98% conviction rate."
— Nader Nevada ([03:19], [03:39])

• Despite the scale, his sentence was probation and forfeiture of assets, crediting his friend for "jumping on the grenade."

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3. The Rise and Decline of Weed Economics

Timestamps: 04:44–10:36

• Explains massive change in weed's value—once "nothing's depreciated as much as weed" ([05:17]).
• Legalization and overproduction have crashed prices; what was "$5,500 a pound" is now "$1,300" ([05:17]).
• "Very few people have like real strong, strong like top shelf grade A. Everybody else...just good enough weed." ([07:45])
• Discusses differences between weed grown in Nevada vs. California and issues with product freshness (90 days from pick to store is "bad").
• Explains how new markets in states like Oklahoma and Michigan ended California's dominance: "People don't have to come to California to get weed...the market is messed up now." ([08:52])
• Describes past "high-rolling" era ("big chains...everybody had money"), contrasting it with today's riskier, fractured scene.

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4. Legal Ironies and Shifting Social Norms

Timestamps: 10:37–13:16, 20:50–22:54

• Reflects on the paradox of people receiving long sentences for an industry now legal in "39 states" ([10:50]).
• "Nobody should be in jail for weed," noting his friend received "108 months in the feds" ([10:56]).
• Calls out double standard: "You meet a guy out here that has three dispensaries...totally legit guy. You talk to somebody like me...and you'd be like, oh, well, you're a drug trafficker." ([20:37])
• Recalls that in Nevada, "a seed was a felony" when he was young, contrasting with open public consumption today ([20:59]).

Quote:

"Nobody should be in jail for weed...I don't feel like I was doing anything wrong."
— Nader Nevada ([11:10])

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5. The Fraud and Hype of Online Success Gurus

Timestamps: 15:46–19:19

• Dismisses ostentatious social media "drug dealers" as either fabricators or future felons: "Unless you can back your paperwork up or we can see you went through the process...I don't believe it." ([15:46])
• On motivational coaches: "Do you have successful businesses? ...Or did you just come up and you're balling because you got the subscribers? Like, were you successful prior to this or are you just selling a dream?" ([17:58])
• Predicts many will be "exposed" for lack of real receipts: "I think all that is going to kind of come out and then some people will last..." ([18:25])
• Expresses that he'd rather learn from those with proven track records, not viral personalities.

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6. Adapting to the "Social Media Era"

Timestamps: 19:19–20:50

• Nader underscores the importance of adapting:

  "I feel like if you're not getting money with the Internet and you're not part of this, you are going to get left behind." ([19:26], repeated from [00:40])

• Contrasts his history of discretion ("all the pictures I got, they were just either by myself...") with the new era of digital exposure ([19:51]).
• Reveals plans for a two-part documentary: Part 1 on state case, Part 2 on fed case.

  "We're not trying to glorify being criminals...just saying be a product of your environment. If you see a niche that you can make some money, do it." ([20:09])

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7. Perspectives on New Drug Markets

Timestamps: 11:28–13:16

• Skeptical mushrooms will ever match weed's volume: "You could smoke an ounce of weed. If you consumed the ounce of mushrooms, you're probably pretty up and like, you couldn't do it." ([11:33])
• Price point much lower; people "microdose," but not as much overall usage.

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8. Experiences with Law Enforcement and Legal Loopholes

Timestamps: 12:19–15:18

• Shares story of being raided for wax ("manufacturing drugs"), but beating case over technical definition:

"On the search warrant it said marijuana, cocaine, guns, whatever, but marijuana was only flour...Law changed in 2014. In 2015, they tested it. 2016, they came with the indictment." ([12:19])

• Credits late attorney John Mammon with finding last-minute legal avenue:

"He ended up beating that case for me." ([12:52])

• Describes old police tactics: trash surveillance, seizing cars for trace amounts ([14:09]–[15:22]).

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9. Cannabis Culture, Consumption, and Social Shifts

Timestamps: 21:28–24:14

• Finds cannabis consumption lounges underwhelming compared to alcohol-based venues: "I'd rather sell alcohol than weed." ([21:30])
• Weed is an "accessory thing," not the main event:

"It just makes everything a little bit better...It's kind of an accessory to everything." ([22:31])

• Shares story of getting extremely high with Snoop Dogg on a Palms balcony—a full-night smoke session ([23:00–23:30]).
• Describes how carrying loud weed at conventions was a social icebreaker, especially with women.

Quote:

"Me and Snoop sat on the balcony and just smoked until sun came up. It was pretty tight, I ain't gonna lie."
— Nader Nevada ([23:03])

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Notable Moments & Quotes

• On Federal Reach:
  “The feds don’t come until they already got you.” ([03:19])

• On “Viral” Hustlers:
  “Anybody can just come up on some money. You can get rich once...You do it twice, three times. Ok, you might have a hustle to you.” ([17:01])

• On Changing Times:
  “It’s not like when we were kids and the only successful people...were actors and athletes. Now, you can get some money. You just gotta know where to look for it.” ([19:26])

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Segment Timestamps Guide

• Learning freedom after 17 years: 00:40–03:31
• High-stakes marijuana cases and group loyalty: 01:43–04:41
• Weed market economics and legalization fallout: 04:44–10:36
• Legal contradictions and social perception shifts: 10:37–13:16, 20:50–22:54
• Calling out fake social media gurus: 15:46–19:19
• Surviving and adapting in the internet era: 19:19–20:50
• Legal battle details and loopholes: 12:19–15:18
• Cannabis culture anecdotes and Snoop Dogg story: 21:28–24:14

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Closing Notes

Nader closes by sharing his social media (@nader_nevada) and reiterates his philosophy: if you move with authenticity, hustle, and adaptability, you can always “shake a hand, make a friend.” The episode is a raw look at the rise and fall of underground entrepreneurship, the absurdities of federal and state cannabis law, and the new frontiers (and fakes) of hustle in the social media age.

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Transcript

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[Nader Nevada]

Right now. You know, I just take it day by day and try to figure out where I can get some money and what, you know, I see all these things that are going viral now and, like, it's a different time. I feel like if you're not getting money with the Internet and you're not part of this, you are going to get left behind. It's not like when we were kids and the only successful people that had easy jobs were, like, actors and athletes. Now it's like, nah, man, you can. You can get some money. You just got to know where to look for that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

All right, guys. One of the craziest stories you're probably going to hear on the show, and that's saying a lot. 1500 episodes, but we got cash here today. Thanks for coming on, man.

[Nader Nevada]

How you doing?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's good to be free, finally. You've been fighting federal cases and Investigations for what, 17 years now?

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy. And it's finally over.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah. There hasn't been a day since April of 07 to August of 24 that I haven't been either out on bail, under investigation, or on federal supervision.

[Podcast Host]

That's nice.

[Nader Nevada]

It is pretty good to have that, like, off my back now and be able to travel and go places and get my passport back, you know? It's pretty cool.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So how did that all start? In April of 2007 was when the first one happened.

[Nader Nevada]

Just being on the radar, like, you know, it's crazy because I feel like I was one of the original people who ever, like, got in trouble for being, like, posting on social media before. It was like, really? Because that definitely got the attention of, like, some local cops. And I had, like, a big state case where there was some funny business with the police in their man and that ended up getting taken care of. And then I fought a federal case, probably one of the largest marijuana cases that they seen in the fed system.

[Podcast Host]

How many pounds was that?

[Nader Nevada]

They say like 22, 000 pounds. It's over 10000 kilograms. How they do the marijuana? Like the Fed so.

[Podcast Host]

Holy.

[Nader Nevada]

22000 pounds is what they say.

[Podcast Host]

That's insane.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So you fought that one for a while then.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, I did. Like prior to covet and then going through all of it, you know, it was a, it was a messy situation. I wish nobody to go through that. They don't really. They always get what they want at the end of it. So I end up everybody on my case. It's like 16 CO defendants.

[Podcast Host]

Geez.

[Nader Nevada]

My best friend was the, like the main target of it. He had a little couple incidences where he got on their radar. And because him and I were just so similar, like there really wasn't a lot of evidence on me. But because we do everything so similar, same cars, same lifestyle, same jewelry, everything was always the same.

[Podcast Host]

And they looped you in?

[Nader Nevada]

They looped me in. They actually told him, man, we take half the time off of you if you tell on him. And he said, he said no. And he should be home by about next year. Thirteen more months, I think he'll be home.

[Podcast Host]

That's a real one.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, he's as solid as they come, man. Free that guy. Free kid, like he's as good as they come in.

[Podcast Host]

How many of the 16 started turning on each other and snitching?

[Nader Nevada]

All the top people where we were at, nobody told on each other.

[Podcast Host]

Nice. Like, I feel like that's rare, right?

[Nader Nevada]

Super rare. Super rare. Like when you see these cases, like, you know, everybody either has to move as one unit or like then they start telling on each other. Then people start taking deals fast and you know, agree. Confirming what they already speculate. Yeah, but the feds don't come until they already got you. Like the feds is pretty much open to check case.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. 98, right?

[Nader Nevada]

98. Conviction rate. Yeah. So you're gonna, you're end up gonna take a deal. Like everybody on our case, we collectively was like, man, we just take the deal.

[Podcast Host]

They just want the money, right?

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, that's what I ended up having to do. I had to work with a lot of money. Like they really did. I, you know, thank God I didn't have to do no jail time. My buddy kind of like jumped on the grenade for us on that one. Yeah, I had to forfeit a lot of money. Like four years probation, federal supervision. So damn, you know, it sucks. They get what they want. He tried to offer him some money, they wouldn't take no more money. They were like, no, we got enough money, we Want some time out of you. Because our investigation was messed up because it was so much money. They thought it was like cocaine and like that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, right.

[Nader Nevada]

And you know, when they put their money into that investigation, it's like millions of dollars that they probably put into that over the course of a couple.

[Podcast Host]

Years with lawyers and agents.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, somebody's got to like sit down, you know what I mean? They got to have even when they realized it was just marijuana because we were going up to Garberville and like way before it was a popular thing, distros in la before it was popular. And then now, you know, everybody's in the business. Nothing's appreciated as much as weed has.

[Podcast Host]

I heard that. Yeah, the black market's dead now, right?

[Nader Nevada]

Black market, green market. Like even if you see out here in these dispensaries right now, they're, they're losing money. 50 ounces, you can't make any money on that. You know, 38 tax on it. You know, you gotta pay for your real estate nutrients. You got to pay for your retail space. You got to pay for your person to sell it working for you. There's really no money left in there. I, I don't see the profit margin. And I know people that wanted $30 million for dispensaries and grow operations out here that they'll take like six now. Jeez.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Even planet 13 I heard is losing money. And they're like the biggest nothing, nothing's.

[Nader Nevada]

Depreciated as much as weed in like 2008. I used to pay like 50, 500 a pound. Crazy pound of weed today is probably like 1300 bucks.

[Podcast Host]

Is that because they legalized it and made them way more cheaper?

[Nader Nevada]

No, I think it's because back then not so many people were growing like you know, you had grow houses right now because there's all these operations that are huge, people have warehouses is growing on a bigger scale but also at the same.

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[Nader Nevada]

Sometimes not as micromanaged as good. So you have a lot of like mediocre. Yeah, very few people have like real strong, strong like top shelf grade A. Yeah. Everybody else is like they don't want good weed. People want good enough weed. And that's all they're growing really now.

[Podcast Host]

Well, now the weeds insanely strong, right? Compared to.

Really?

[Nader Nevada]

No, I think some. So I think some things have gotten better because you know, obviously things are going to get better, you get better. But as a whole, I think there's more mediocre weed out now than there is great weed. I think the weed out here in Nevada is just too dry. The pick date to the sale date is 90 days.

[Podcast Host]

Is that good or bad?

[Nader Nevada]

Bad.

[Podcast Host]

That's too long.

[Nader Nevada]

You wouldn't want 90 day old vegetables, right? Yeah, 90 days vegetable was sitting down for 90 days. You'd be kind of grossed out by it, right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

So same thing. As soon as you pick it, it's dying. You have, like a sweet point. You would like to get it in the consumer's hands within about three weeks.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

Picking it, trimming it, getting it all the way together. Really? Like two weeks if you can.

[Podcast Host]

Damn. 90 days.

[Nader Nevada]

California is different. Like, that's why they're always going to be the best. Okay. Where you go in the world, California is going to be handsome.

[Podcast Host]

That's where most of it's grown, right?

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[Nader Nevada]

Not so much anymore. Because that's why the markets are all messed up. You have states like Oklahoma that you had like one or two guys who thought they were smart go to Cal, from California to Oklahoma. And now people don't have to come to California to get. Get weak. Market is messed up. Now we were ahead of the game because we had transport. Transport is where all your money's at.

[Podcast Host]

So with the trucks and everything.

[Nader Nevada]

Trucks, airplanes, whatever you're going to use.

[Podcast Host]

But damn, you had planes. Let's go.

[Nader Nevada]

It's not as difficult as you think, man. You can get. You can get anything pretty much anywhere you want it to be. You just got to have the nuts to do it.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, dude, I had on the biggest car carjacker in the. In the world last week, and he was transporting 100 cars a week overseas.

[Nader Nevada]

He got nuts.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy, right?

[Nader Nevada]

Like, you just gotta believe in your hustle. I think if you believe in your hustle, whatever you're doing, just try to be the best at it. Yeah, I try to surround myself around the best of the best. Whether it was like music or weed or whatever business that I had any interest in, I've always tried to put myself around the best of the best of it. So if you believe it, I think you can achieve it.

[Podcast Host]

That's how you grow, right? You're not going to grow if you surround yourself with amateurs.

[Nader Nevada]

Nah. But like, now you have like Michigan and Oklahoma, where people don't have to come all the way to California, get the weed.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

And they're growing weed. But I would rather drive four hours from Tennessee to Oklahoma to pick up weed than take a chance of putting my money on an airplane, coming back, bringing it back, and a lot of risk in that. So, like, the weed market has just really gone to especially, like, I feel like this year is really just from what I hear and I see from people talking like it's a up time right now. It's not like it used to be like, prior to Covid, man, that's like when you seen all like the guys coming with big chains and like everybody had money.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

And now it's scary because everybody used to have money, right? So these guys get accustomed to this lifestyle and like, you know, now everybody's robbing each other. Like, there's no, there's no face card in the game anymore. It's. It's different.

[Podcast Host]

Free Fetty Wap, right?

[Nader Nevada]

Free all of them, man.

[Podcast Host]

You got for weed. I think it was. It's crazy that people are getting long sentences for weed when it's legal.

[Nader Nevada]

My best friend got nine years.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, but it's legal in like what, 20 states now?

[Nader Nevada]

39 states.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap. 39.

[Nader Nevada]

39 states have some type of form of legalization in it right now.

[Podcast Host]

And people are getting 10 to 20 years for it.

[Nader Nevada]

We, my, my boy got nine, got 108 months in the feds. And I felt like that was crazy to get sentenced like that. But with the programs and everything, like, you know, Trump put like that first step act. He think they're shaving some of that time down. But still, nobody should be in jail for. We like, I don't feel like I was doing anything wrong.

[Podcast Host]

You didn't kill anyone.

[Nader Nevada]

No. And I feel like Amazon will be doing this in 10 years. Like, we were a little bit ahead of each other of the competition, a little bit ahead of everybody else. You might get me for like operating without a business license. I'll take that charge, like. But to be known as like a drug trafficker now for the rest of my life off of that is kind of crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's nuts. What do you think the next move is? You think it's mushrooms because weed is dead, so.

[Nader Nevada]

No, because I don't believe people can consume mushrooms at the rate you can consume weed. Like, you could eat out. You could smoke an ounce of weed. If you consumed the ounce of mushrooms, you're probably pretty up and like, you couldn't do it. Like back to back people micro dose people would smoke weed. They overdose. Like facts, you know what I'm saying? Hard to consume. And then the price point is just really low. Like mushrooms is 500 a pound.

[Podcast Host]

That's it. Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

Damn. Like that.

[Podcast Host]

The chocolate bars are like. Yeah, that's how they make them.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, you make chocolate bar, you processed it. You make, you know, you cater it to somebody that wants it like that. You know what I mean? Like all the weed now is like that. Now they. Everybody wants a happy meal. People buy Ace of weed with a, a toy inside. It comes with a back. Like a little like it should is stupid to me. Like give me my weed in a sandwich if we were going to do that.

[Podcast Host]

Did you catch the. The pen wave? Because those were hot when I was in college, the weed pens.

[Nader Nevada]

So my state case, I had a lot of problems because they raided a big house out here and there was a lot of wax at the time. And the reason I ended up beating that case was because in 2013 when my house got raided, on the search warrant it said marijuana, cocaine, guns, whatever, but marijuana was only flour. It wasn't wax. It had to be TTHC to be wax. So. So they waited three years to indict me for that. Whoa. So they kept the, they kept it. The law changed in 2014. In 2015, they tested it. 2016, they came with the indictment.

[Podcast Host]

No way. That shouldn't be allowed.

[Nader Nevada]

It was a crazy thing. And like my lawyer caught it like the day before we were going to take the deal. They were going to offer me little deal. And he was like, wait, no. And he went and he looked in the law books. John Mammon, Rest in peace. To John Mamma. You know, I think he was one of the best lawyers out here in Vegas. He played himself in casino, but that's dope. Yeah. He ended up beating that case for me. He ended up. We ended up getting like two misdemeanors because everything in that whole situation was. It was more of like a personal thing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

Some funny business on their side. I feel like it wasn't just. If it was just by the books, you know, hey, you. Sometimes the mouse gets caught by the cat, but that wasn't the situation there. But going back to what you're saying, like the wax. So I didn't with it because the wax ends up being manufacturing. It's like cooking mess. Because when I end up catching that, when I had to go into that indictment, they, they really were tripping. Because in Nevada making drugs or manufacturing Drugs is a 10 to life sentence. So dance to me. I stay away from all that stuff. And then my personal preference has always been flour.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

So, you know, it's hard for me to really like mess with anything that I don't like. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

Did you know something you believe in?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Did you know that raid was coming or. It's complete shock, complete surprise.

[Nader Nevada]

It was a lot of funny. They, they definitely let you know that they're. They're watching and they're coming.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

You. I feel like you got to move on point at all times. Like move as if they're always watching. Move as if they are going to raid tomorrow morning. That's kind of how I like, you see it. You know, they were going through my trash can for like a year. Damn. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's nuts.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah. All the stuff you see in like the movies and stuff like that, that has some. Some truth to it, they really be doing dumb.

[Podcast Host]

Was that DA or was. Who was that?

[Nader Nevada]

That was actually state police out here.

[Podcast Host]

State police were done.

[Nader Nevada]

And at the time, because it was 2013, they were finding like, on the. On the affidavit that they submitted to the judge, they were showing what they found on like the trash digs. It's like.02 grams of marijuana. 1.1 grams of marijuana. Like today. A judge would laugh at that. You know what I mean? But back then, you know, just to show you how much the times have changed, that was 12 years ago. You know, they see he's like a Rolls Royce for me at the time, and told the bank, hey, this guy's. We suspect him with drug trafficking. We found a small piece of weed in the car. This is evidence of drug trafficking. We're going to give you guys the car back. If you give it back to him, we're going to take it a second time and then you guys are out of the money. So they end up selling the car and paying me the difference.

What's it called? The equity that was in the car when they sold it at auction.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[Nader Nevada]

Because they were like, you can have any other car you want, just not this car. That's how the bank was with me.

[Podcast Host]

That's nuts.

[Nader Nevada]

But it just goes to show you how much we've come just from dealing with weed. Like 0.2 grams of weed back in the day was enough to get search warrants and crazy and seize cars. And today, like, you find that on the floor.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. For real. So when you see these guys going on podcasts, these drug dealers, and you pretty much know it's Cap, right?

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[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, I don't believe, like, unless you can like back your paperwork up or we can really see, like you went through the process and, you know, I don't believe, you know, like, they just had that situation over there with the no jumper guys. You know what I mean? Like, either you're full of or you're gonna get in trouble. And we're gonna see the. The truth, right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

So, like, I got in trouble so I can talk about it. So I'm not full of everybody else. I don't, I don't. I don't believe it. Like, and it's your story. You could tell it how you want.

[Podcast Host]

I feel like at your level, you would have known most of the top guys for sure.

[Nader Nevada]

It's like any. Any field if you deal with, like, doctors in Las Vegas, all the doctors know each other. The real doctors know each other. The guys who are really moving and shaking. Like, there was definitely at all the states, like, people were. Anybody that was getting some money knew who you were or you see them. Like, we would see them at all Star games, Super Bowls.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

BT Awards, any of these type of things. Like, the guys who are moving, shaking, fights and stuff like that, you're going to see them. You're going to see them there. If you really getting some money, we want to see it. You're going to spend it. You know what I mean? Like, money's worthless until you spend it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

All the guys that are getting fast money, if. If you're not spending it, I don't really believe you've got it or we're getting to it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You got to show that. You got to.

[Nader Nevada]

We got to see it. Like, where the cars at? Where's everything else? And then there's a lot of seasonal ballers, too.

[Podcast Host]

I love that term.

[Nader Nevada]

There's a lot of seasonal ballers. Like, I seen guys get two seasons in real quick and then never see them again. You know, like, we want to see consistency. How far back does it go? I want to see. I want to see how long you've been getting money. Did you? Because anybody can just come up on some money. You can get rich. If you get rich once, you might have got lucky. You do it twice, three times. Okay. You might have a hustle to you.

[Podcast Host]

What are your predictions for Wes Watson? You think he can maintain this. This lifestyle?

[Nader Nevada]

I think those guys bite off more than they chew. I think once you kind of get exposed, it's all kind of downhill from there. As far as those guys go, man, I think all those guys, you know, like, once the cat's out the bag, we all kind of see what it is.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

Kind of just like pressing people. You. You trying to be like a. A drill sergeant, football coach on these guys. And we're not really seeing, like, I don't know where the real results, you know, I haven't. I don't believe these guys because where was the money before it? Like, if you're going to coach me or you're going to tell me how to do something, be successful in something else other than just talking on the phone.

[Podcast Host]

Facts, right?

[Nader Nevada]

Like, do you have successful businesses? Do you, have you done things that's difficult in your life? Like, what did you go to jail for? I don't really know what dude went to jail for. And I don't know all the details to it all, but it's like, well, you getting some money, you talk all this money stuff. Any of these guys that are coaching and telling you all this money stuff. Like, I want to see where the money is at. Like, do you have like the receipts from it and can we see it? Or did you just come up in your balling because you got the subscribers? Like, were you successful prior to this or are you just selling a dream?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

So guys like that, I feel like that's going to get exposed in the next couple probably like by the end of this year. I feel like a lot of these online coaches that don't really have any receipts of their success or really did anything, I think all that is going to kind of come out and then some people will last. Like, you got some people, you know, who are really motivating people and helping people and are real coaches, like CEOs and stuff like that. If you're just praying on weak people, I think that's kind of up. Yeah, you know, I think that's what those guys are kind of doing. Like, you got, you want to make some money. You don't have no money. Give me the last little bit of money you have and I'll show you how to get some money. Like, but you're not really showing me how to get some money. You might show me how to like edit a tick tock video and tell me that that was what I paid for.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.

[Nader Nevada]

You know, like, I, I, I want to, I want to hear successful people tell me how to get some money. You know, like, I got some successful friends. I sit around them and I listen because they, it's there guys who kind of just went viral. I don't really feel like you should give me life advice.

[Podcast Host]

I'm, I'm with you, bro. What's the next move for you? You looking into some businesses and stuff?

[Nader Nevada]

We're always gonna hustle. We're always gonna have some businesses going right now. You know, I just take it day by day and try to figure out where I can get Some money and what? You know, I see all these things that are going viral now and like, it's a different time. I feel like if you're the Internet and you're not part of this, you are going to get left behind. It's not like when we were kids and the only successful people that had easy jobs were like, actors and athletes. Now it's like, nah, man, you can, you can get some money. You just got to know where to look for it at.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because you've been low key for your whole life and now social media is going to be a new thing for you.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, it's kind of different. Like, you know, to be outside and, and stand in front of the pictures. Like, all the pictures I got, you know, they were just either by myself because I didn't want to put nobody else in with it, or it's like with somebody who I can take a picture with. Now it's a whole different thing. Sitting in front of cameras versus being behind the cameras.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You doing anything? You're doing a documentary, you said.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, company reached out. They want to do a documentary. We're going to do a part one and a part two. Part one would be the state case and part two would be the fed case and really show it's not. You know, we're not trying to glorify being criminals. We're just saying be a product of your environment. If you see a niche that you can make some money, do it. I feel like you can apply that to anything. It's not just like, this is what was in front of me. It doesn't mean that, oh, this person's a bad person or this person's a good person like you. You meet a guy out here that has three dispensaries and you think, he's a totally legit guy, he's a good guy. You talk to somebody like me and you'd be like, oh, well, you're a drug trafficker. Like, you know, so it's a different. It's a different time now. Like, you know, you got to get in where you fit in and try to make this money how you can.

[Podcast Host]

They demonize weed. For my parents generation, I feel like.

[Nader Nevada]

Absolutely. Like, I remember out here in Nevada when we were in school, a seed was a felony.

[Podcast Host]

Just having a seed.

[Nader Nevada]

Just having a seed in Nevada. Felony.

[Podcast Host]

Back then, that's crazy.

[Nader Nevada]

And now you look at it and like, you know, you got guys walking around here and they're smoking right outside in front of the sidewalk on the strip.

[Podcast Host]

Yep, no problem.

[Nader Nevada]

No, it's definitely changed. It's definitely changed.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, my mom used to freak out, bro.

[Nader Nevada]

Yeah, we used to do all kinds of precautions to smoke weed. I remember we used to smoke weed in the garage in 120 degree weather just to not get caught. Like, that was dumb.

[Podcast Host]

Good old hot box in the car.

[Nader Nevada]

Oh, now, you know, I mean, like, they're making pot lounges. They're doing all this stuff. It's crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Those aren't doing well. I heard the consumption lounges, I don't.

[Nader Nevada]

Think they do well. Because I'd rather sell alcohol than weed. Right. People get high. That's like, I went to Amsterdam. I flew all the way to Amsterdam to go smoke weed. Once we got there, we started smoking. I'm like, okay, now what? Into it was like, thank God. Like, Amsterdam's like the most museums in the world per capita is in Amsterdam. But, like, we literally got all the way over there, smoked and, like, looked around and was kind of like, now what? You know what I'm saying?

[Podcast Host]

You went straight to the red light district.

[Nader Nevada]

Nah, we definitely glanced by it, though. We definitely was peeking over there. I don't think nobody wanted to get caught spending their money and getting that reputation. But no, it was definitely. It was definitely some cool. But consumption lounges, I don't feel like they do well. Like, you would gonna sell chicken fingers.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Nader Nevada]

P. Heads don't really drink alcohol like you sell. If you have a restaurant out here and you have a bar, your bar does 65 of your revenue. Consumption lounge. Like, what are you gonna charge me? Like, a sacking fee, like, instead of a corking fee? I don't really see how that works out too well. And what makes me really want to get off my couch and go smoke weed on your couch? Yeah, you know, like a hookah lounge.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Nader Nevada]

Hookah's a lot of work. You gotta have somebody come, but I don't. And you can have alcohol. I would have a hookah lounge over. Over a weed consumption lounge. People smoke weed wherever. Weed is like an accessory thing. It's not the thing you want to do. It just makes everything a little bit better. You want to go to the club, you want to go watch a movie, smoke weed. It makes everything just a little bit better. You have sex, smoke weed, it makes it a little bit better. It's not the main thing you want to do. It's kind of an accessory to everything.

[Podcast Host]

You want to do. What's the highest you've ever been? Who are you with and what happened?

[Nader Nevada]

Me and Snoop got High, Pretty, pretty high.

[Podcast Host]

One time you got a little smoke off.

[Nader Nevada]

Me and Snoop sat on the balcony at the Palms one time. We was like a, like a late. It was like a hotel party that we were at and really it just ended up being me and him sitting on the balcony smoking. Like, you know, chick would come out. Every once in a while I want to come smoke with us and just take a picture with him. But really me and him just sat on the balcony and just smoked until sun came up. It was pretty tight, I ain't gonna lie. Like, know who Snoop was and being a little kid looking up to him and then like being able to have that story is pretty tight.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

[Nader Nevada]

I feel like. Yeah, yeah, it's some pretty cool people out here. We. And we attracts cool people to you. We didn't open up a lot of doors for me. You know what I mean? You get around the right people. Like even just having in your pocket. It smells good. I remember we used to walk around at the AVN convention out here and have weed in our pocket and every chick would walk by like, oh, you got that? That's our little. That'd be just our little way to like get in with the girls and be traveling up with the girls.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's so smart. I didn't even think of that.

[Nader Nevada]

Any, anything you feel, man, just leave it open. Just put it in your pocket. Believe it open.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. This is a perfect spot for it. Same thing here with all these.

[Nader Nevada]

I mean, everybody here would want to come in. See. Hey man, you got that? You know, if it's good weeding, it's loud, you're going to attract everybody around you.

[Podcast Host]

Oh yeah. And your shit's loud.

[Nader Nevada]

Good. Allegedly.

[Podcast Host]

Well, dude, it's been cool. Where could people find you on social media and keep up with you?

[Nader Nevada]

Natter Underscore Nevada. N A D E R Nevada I'm just around, man. If you see me outside, come say hi. It's all good. Shake, shake your hand, make a friend.

[Podcast Host]

Oh yeah. Check him out guys. Stay tuned. He's going to be blowing up over the next few months. See you next time.