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A
Right now, you know, I just take it day by day and try to figure out where I can get some money and what, you know, I see all these things that are going viral now and like, it's a different time. I feel like if you're not getting money with the Internet and you're not part of this, you are going to get left behind. It's not like when we were kids and the only successful people that had easy jobs were like actors and athletes. Now it's like, nah man, you can, you can get some money. You just got to know where to look for that. Yeah.
B
All right, guys. One of the craziest stories you're probably gonna hear on the show, and that's saying a lot. 1500 episodes, but we got cash here today. Thanks for coming on, man.
A
How you doing?
B
Yeah, it's good to be free, finally. You've been fighting federal cases and Investigations for what, 17 years now?
A
Yeah. Crazy.
B
And it's finally over.
A
Yeah. There hasn't been a day since April of 07 to August of 24 that I haven't been either out on bail, under investigation, or on federal supervision. Vision.
B
That's nice.
A
It's pretty good to have that like off my back now and be able to travel and go places and get my passport back, you know. It's pretty cool. Yeah.
B
So how did that all start in April of 2007 was when the first one happened.
A
Just being on the radar, like, you know, it's crazy because I feel like I was one of the original people who ever like got in trouble for being like posting on social media before. It was like really thing. Cuz that definitely got the attention of like some local cops. And then I had like a big state case. Well, there was some funny business with the police in there, man. And then ended up getting taken care of. And then I fought a federal case, probably one of the largest marijuana cases that they seen in the Fed system.
B
How many pounds was that?
A
They say like 22,000 pounds. It's over 10,000 kilograms is how they do the marijuana, like the fed, so.
B
Holy.
A
£22,000 is what they say.
B
That's insane.
A
Yeah.
B
So you fought that one for a while then.
A
Yeah, I did. Like prior to Covid and then going through all of it, you know, it was a. It was a messy situation. I don't wish nobody to go through that. They don't really. They always get what they want at the end of it. So I end up everybody on my case. It's like 16 CO defendants. Geez, my Best friend was the, like, the main target of it. He. He had a little. Couple incidences where he got on their radar. And because him and I were just so similar, like, there really wasn't a lot of evidence on me. But because we do everything so similar, same cars, same lifestyle, same jewelry, everything was always the same.
B
And they looped you in?
A
They looped me in. They actually told him, man, we take half the time off of you if you tell on him. And he said. He said no. And he should be home by about next year. Thirteen more months, I think he'll be home.
B
That's a real one.
A
Yeah, he's as solid as they come, man. Free that guy. Free Kev. Like, he's as good as they come in.
B
How many of the 16 started turning on each other and snitching?
A
All the top people where we were at, nobody told on each other.
B
Nice. Like, I feel like that's rare, right?
A
Super rare. Super rare. Like, when you see these cases, like, you know, everybody either has to move as one unit or, like, then they start telling on each other and people start taking deals fast and, you know, confirming what they already speculate. Yeah, but the feds don't come until they already got you. Like, the feds is pretty much open shut case.
C
Yeah.
B
98%.
A
98% conviction rate. Yeah. So you're going to. You're end up going to take a deal. Like, everybody on our case, we collectively was like, man, we just take the deal.
B
They just want the money, right?
A
Yeah. That's what I ended up having to do. I had to afford a lot of money. Like, they really did. I, you know, thank God I didn't have to do no jail time. My buddy kind of like, jumped on the grenade for us on that one.
C
Yeah.
A
I had to forfeit a lot of money. Like, four years probation, federal supervision. So damn, you know, it sucks. They get what they want. He tried to offer him some money. They wouldn't take no more money. They were like, no, we got enough money. We want some time out of you. Because our investigation was messed up because it was so much money. They thought it was like cocaine and like that.
C
Yeah, right.
A
And you know, when they put their money into that investigation, it's like millions of dollars they probably put into that over the course of a couple years.
B
With lawyers and agents. Huh.
A
Somebody's got to, like, sit down, you know what I mean? They got to have. Even when they realized it was just marijuana, because we were going up to Garberville and, like, way before it was A popular thing, distros in la before it was popular and then now, you know, everybody's in the business. Nothing's depreciated as much as weed has.
B
I heard that. Yeah, the black market's dead now, right?
A
Black market, green market. Like even if you see out here in these dispensaries right now, they're, they're losing money. 50 ounces, you can't make any money on that. You know, 38 tax on it. You know, you gotta pay for your real estate, nutrients. You got to pay for your retail space, you got to pay for your person to sell it working for you. There's really no money left in there. I, I don't see the profit margin. And I know people that wanted $30 million for dispensaries and grow operations out here that they'll take like six now. Jeez. Yeah.
B
Even planet 13 I heard is losing money. And they're like the biggest nothing, nothing's.
A
Depreciated as much as weed. In like 2008, I used to pay like 5, 500 a pound. Crazy pound of weed today is probably like 1300 bucks.
B
Is that because they legalized it and made them way more cheaper?
A
No, I think it's because back then not so many people were growing like you know, you had grow houses right now because there's all these operations that are huge, people have warehouses is growing on a bigger scale but also at the same.
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A
Same time. It's not as micromanaged as good. So you have a lot of like mediocre weed. Yeah, Very few people have like real strong, strong, like top shelf, grade A. Yeah. Everybody else is like, they don't want good weed. People want good enough weed. And that's all they're growing really now?
B
Well, now the weeds insanely strong, right? Compared to really?
A
No, I think some, I think some things have gotten better because you know, obviously things are going to get better, you get better. But as a whole, I think there's more mediocre weed out now than there is great weed. I think the weed out here in Nevada is just too dry. The pick date to the sale date is 90 days.
B
Is that good or bad?
A
Bad.
B
That's too long.
A
You wouldn't want 90 day old vegetables, right?
B
Yeah, 90 days.
A
Vegetable was sitting down for 90 days. You'd be kind of grossed out by it, right?
C
Yeah.
A
So same thing. As soon as you pick it, it's dying. You have like a sweet point. You would like to get it in the consumer's hands within about three weeks.
C
Yeah.
A
Picking it, trimming it, getting it all the way together. Really like two weeks if you can.
B
Damn. 90 days.
A
California is different. Like that's why they're always going to be the best where you go in the world. California is Going to be handsome.
B
That's where most of it's grown, right? Cali, Not.
A
Not so much anymore. Because that's why the markets are all messed up. You have states like Oklahoma that you had like one or two guys who thought they were smart go to Cal, from California to Oklahoma. And now people don't have to come to California to get weak. Market is messed up. Now we were ahead of the game because we had transport. Transport is where all your money's at.
B
So with the trucks and everything.
A
Trucks, airplanes, whatever you're going to use.
B
But damn, you had planes. Let's go.
A
It's not as difficult as you think, man. You can get. You can get anything pretty much anywhere you want it to be. You just gotta have the nuts to do it.
B
I mean, dude, I had on the biggest car carjacker in the, in the world last week and he was transporting 100 cars a week overseas.
A
He got nuts.
B
Crazy, right?
A
Like, you just gotta believe in your hustle. I think if you believe in your hustle, whatever you're doing, just try to be the best at it.
C
Yeah.
A
I try to surround myself around the best of the best. Whether it was like music or weed or whatever business that I had any interest in, I've always tried to put myself around the best of the best of it. So if you believe it, I think you can achieve it.
B
That's how you grow, right? You're not going to grow if you surround yourself with amateurs.
A
Nah. But like now you have like Michigan and Oklahoma, where people don't have to come all the way to California to get the weed.
C
Yeah.
A
And they're growing weed. But I would rather drive four hours from Tennessee to Oklahoma to pick up weed than take a chance of putting my money on an airplane, coming back, bringing it back, and a lot of risk in that. So, like, the weed market has just really gone to. Especially like, I feel like this year is really just from what I hear and I see from people talking like it's a fucked up time right now. It's not like it used to be like, prior to Covid, man, that's like when you see, you know, like the guys coming with big chains and like everybody had money.
C
Yeah.
A
And now it's scary because everybody used to have money. Right. So these guys get accustomed to this lifestyle and like, you know, now everybody's robbing each other. Like, no, there's no face card in the game anymore. It's. It's different.
B
Free Fetty Wap, right?
A
Free. All of them, man.
B
He got for weed. I think it was. It's crazy that people are getting long sentences for weed when it's legal.
A
My best friend got nine years.
B
Yeah, but it's legal in like, what, 20 states now?
A
39 states.
B
I. Holy crap. 39.
A
39 states have some type of form of legalization in it right now, and.
B
People are getting 10 to 20 years for it.
A
We, my, my boy got nine, got 108 months in the feds. And I felt like that was crazy to get sentenced like that, but with the programs and everything, like, know Trump put like that first step act. He, they, they're shaving some of that time down. But still nobody should be in jail for. We like, I don't feel like I was doing anything wrong.
B
You didn't kill anyone.
A
No. And I feel like Amazon will be doing this in 10 years. Like, we were a little bit ahead of each other of the competition, a little bit ahead of everybody else. You might get me for like operating without a business license. I would take that charge, like. But to be known as like a drug trafficker now for the rest of my life off of that is kind of crazy.
B
Yeah, that's nuts. What do you think the next move is? You think it's mushrooms? Because weed is dead. So that's.
A
No, because I don't believe people can consume mushrooms at the rate you can consume weed. Like, you could eat out, you could smoke an ounce of weed. If you consumed an ounce of mushrooms, you're probably pretty up and like, you couldn't do it. Like back to back people micro dose people would smoke weed. They overdose. Like facts, you know what I'm saying? It's hard to consume and then the price point is just really low. Like mushrooms is 500 a pound.
B
That's it.
C
Yeah.
A
Damn.
B
The chocolate bars are like. Yeah, that's how they make them.
A
Yeah, you make chocolate bar. You processed it, you make, you know, you cater it to somebody that wants it like that. You know what I mean? Like all the weed now is like that. Now everybody wants a happy Meal. People buy ace of weed with a toy inside. It comes with a back. Like a little like it should have stupid to me. Like, give me my weed in a sandwich, man, if we were gonna do that.
B
Did you catch the. The pen wave? Because those were hot when I was in college, the weed pens.
A
So my state case, I had a lot of problems because they raided a big house out here and there was a lot of wax at the time. And the reason I end up beating that case was because in 2013, when my house got raided on the search warrant. It said marijuana, cocaine, guns, whatever, but marijuana was only flour. It wasn't wax. It had to be THC to be wax. So they waited three years to indict me for that. Whoa.
B
So they kept the.
A
They kept it. The law changed in 2014. In 2015 they tested it. 2016, they came with the indictment.
B
No way. That shouldn't be allowed.
A
It was a crazy thing. And like my lawyer caught it like the day before we were going to take the deal. They were going to offer me a little, little deal. And he was like, wait, no. And he went and he looked in the law books. John Mama. Rest in peace To John Mama. You know, I think he was one of the best lawyers out here in Vegas. He played himself in casino, but that's dope. Yeah. He ended up beating that case for me. He ended up. We end up getting like two misdemeanors because everything in that whole situation was. It was more of like a personal thing.
C
Yeah.
A
Some funny business on their side. I feel like it wasn't just if it was just by the books, you know. Hey you. Sometimes the mouse gets caught by the cat, but that wasn't the situation there. But going back to what you're saying, like the wax. So I didn't with it because the wax ends up being manufacturing. It's like cooking meth when I end up catching that. When I had to go into that indictment, they. They really were tripping because in Nevada, pro making drugs or manufacturing Drugs is a 10 to life sentence. So damn to me, I stay away from all that stuff. And then my personal preference has always been flower.
C
Yeah.
A
So you know, it's hard for me to really like mess with anything that I don't like. You know what I mean?
C
Yeah.
A
Did you know still something you believe in.
C
Yeah.
B
Did you know that raid was coming or. It's complete shock, complete surprise.
A
It was a lot of funny. Like they definitely let you know that they're. They're watching and they're coming.
C
Yeah.
A
You just. I feel like you got to move on point at all times. Like move as if they're always watching. Move as if they are going to rate tomorrow morning. That's kind of how I like you see it. You know, they were going through my trash can for like a year. Damn.
C
Yeah.
B
That's nuts.
A
Yeah. All the stuff you see in like the movies and stuff like that, that has some. Some truth to it. They really be doing dumb.
B
Was that D A? Who was that?
A
That was actually state police out Here.
B
State police were done.
A
And at the time, because it was 2013, they were finding like, on the. On the affidavit that they submitted to the judge, there was showing what they found in, like, the trash digs. It's like 0.2 grams of marijuana, 1.1 grams of marijuana. Like today, a judge would laugh at that. You know what I mean? But back then, you know, just to show you how much the times have changed, that was 12 years ago, you know, they seems like a Rolls Royce for me at the time, and told the bank, hey, this guy's. We suspect him with drug trafficking. We found a small piece of weed in the car. This is evidence of drug trafficking. We're going to give you guys the car back. If you give it back to him, we're going to take it a second time, and then you guys are out of the money. So they end up selling the car and pay me the difference. What's it called? The. The equity that was in the car when they sold it at auction. Damn. Because they were like, you can have any other car you want, just not this car. That's how the bank was with me.
B
That's nuts.
A
But it just goes to show you how much we've come just from dealing with weed. Like.02 grams of weed back in the day was enough to get search warrants and crazy and seize cars. And today, like, you find that on the floor.
B
Yeah. For real. So when you see these guys going on podcasts, these drug dealers, and you pretty much know it's Cap right from.
D
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A
Yeah, I don't believe them. Like, unless you can, like, back your paperwork up or we can really see, like, you went through the process and, you know, I don't believe, you know, like, they just had that situation over there with the no jumper guys. You know what I mean? Like, either you're full of, or you're going to get in trouble and we're going to see the. The truth. Right?
C
Yeah.
A
So, like, I got in trouble so I can talk about it. So I'm not full of everybody else. I don't, I don't. I don't believe it. Like, and it's your story. You could tell it how you want.
B
I feel like at your level, you would have known most of the top guys for sure.
A
It's like any. Any field if you deal with, like, doctors. In Las Vegas, all the doctors know each Other. Yeah, the real doctors know each other. The guys who are really moving and shaking. Like there was definitely at all the states, like, people were. Anybody that was getting some money knew who you were or you see them. Like, we would see him at all Star Games, Super Bowls.
C
Yeah.
A
BT Awards, any of these type of things. Like, the guys who are moving, shaking fights and stuff like that, you're going to see them, you're going to see them there. If you really getting some money, we want to see it. You're going to spend it. You know what I mean? Like, money's worthless until you spend it.
C
Yeah.
A
All the guys that are getting fast money, if. If you're not spending it, I don't really believe you got it or we're getting to it.
C
Yeah.
B
You got to show that you got.
A
We got to see it. Like, where the corners at? Where's everything else? And then there's a lot of seasonal ballers, too.
B
I love that term.
A
There's a lot of seasonal ballers. Like, I've seen guys get two seasons in real quick and then never see them again. You know, we want to see consistency. How far back does it go? I want to see. I want to see how long you've been getting money. Did you. Because anybody can just come up on some money and get rich. If you get rich once, you might have got lucky. You do it twice, three times. Okay. You might have a hustle to you.
B
What are your predictions for Wes Watson? You think he can maintain this. This lifestyle?
A
I think those guys bite off more than they chew. I think once you kind of get exposed, it's all kind of downhill from there. As far as those guys go, man. I think all those guys, you know, like, once the cat's out the bag, we all kind of see what it is.
C
Yeah.
A
Kind of just like pressing people. You, you trying to be like a. A drill sergeant football coach on these guys. And we're not really seeing, like, I don't know, we're the real results. You know, I haven't. I don't believe these guys because where was the money before it? Like, if you're going to coach me or you're going to tell me how to do something, be successful in something else other than just talking on the phone?
B
Facts.
A
Right. Like, do you have successful businesses? Do you. Have you done things that's difficult in your life? Like, what did you go to jail for? I don't really know what dude went to jail for, and I don't know all the details to it all, but it's like, was you getting some money? You talk all this money stuff. Any of these guys that are coaching and telling you all this money stuff, Like, I want to see where the money is at. Like, do you have, like, the receipts from it and can we see it or.
C
Yeah.
A
Did you just come up and you're balling because you got the subscribers? Like, were you successful prior to this or are you just selling a dream?
C
Yeah.
A
So guys like that, I feel like that's going to get exposed in the next couple. Like, by the end of this year. I feel like a lot of these online coaches that don't really have any receipts of their success or really did anything, I think all that is going to kind of come out and some people will last. Like, you got some people, you know, who are really motivating people and helping people and are real coaches, like CEOs and stuff like that. If you just praying on weak people, I think that's kind of fucked up.
C
Yeah.
A
You know, I think that's what those guys kind of doing. Like, you got. You want to make some money. You don't have no money. Give me the last little bit of money you have and I'll show you how to get some money. Like, but you not really show me how to get some money. You might show me how to, like, edit a Tik Tok video and tell me that that was what I paid for.
C
Yep.
B
I'm not a fan of that.
A
You know, like, I want to. I want to hear successful people tell me how to get some money. You know, like, I got some successful friends. I sit around them and I listen because they. It's there guys who got Just went viral. I don't really feel like you should.
B
Give me life advice with you, bro. What's the next move for you? You looking into some businesses and stuff.
A
We're always gonna hustle. We're always gonna have some businesses going right now. You know, I just take it day by day and try to figure out where I can get some money and what. You know, I see all these things that are going viral now and, like, it's a different time. I feel like if you're not getting money with the Internet and you're not part of this, you are going to get left behind. It's not like when we were kids and the only successful people that had easy jobs were, like, actors and athletes. Now it's like, nah, man, you can. You can get some money. You just got to know where to look for it at. Yeah.
B
Because you've been low Key for your whole life. And now social media is going to be a new thing for you.
A
Yeah, it's kind of different. Like, you know, to be outside and stand in front of the pictures. Like all the pictures I got, you know, they were just either by myself because I didn't want to put nobody else in with it, or it's like with somebody who I can take a picture with. Now it's a whole different thing. Sitting in front of cameras versus being behind the cameras.
C
Yeah.
B
You doing anything? You're doing a documentary, you said.
A
Yeah. Company reached out, they want to do a documentary. We're going to do a part one and a part two. Part one would be the state case and part two be the fed case and really show it's not. You know, we're not trying to glorify being criminals. We're just saying be a product of your environment. If you see a niche that you can make some money, do it. I feel like you can apply that to anything. It's not just like, this is what was in front of me. It doesn't mean that, oh, this person's a bad person or this person's a good person. Like, you meet a guy out here that has three dispensaries and you think, he's a totally legit guy, he's a good guy. You talk to somebody like me and you'd be like, oh, well, you're a drug trafficker. Like, you know, so it's, it's a different. It's a different time now. Like, you know, you got to get in where you fit in and try to make this money how you can.
B
They demonize weed. For my parents generation, I feel like.
A
Absolutely. Like, I remember out here in Nevada when we were in school, a seed was a felony.
B
Just having a seed.
A
Just having a seed in the valley.
B
Back then, that's crazy.
A
And now you look at it and like, you know, you got guys walking around here and they're smoking right outside in front of the sidewalk on the strip.
B
Yep, no problem.
A
No, it's definitely changed. It's definitely changed.
B
Yeah, my mom used to freak out, bro.
A
Yeah, we used to do all kinds of precautions to smoke weed. I remember we used to smoke weed in the garage in 120 degree weather just to not get caught. Like, that was dumb.
B
Hot box in the car.
A
Yeah. Now, you know what I mean? Like, they're making pot lounges. They're doing all this stuff. It's crazy.
B
Those aren't doing well. I heard the consumption lounges.
A
I don't Think they do well, because I'd rather sell alcohol than weed. Right? People get high. That's like, I went to Amsterdam. I flew all the way to Amsterdam to go smoke weed. Once we got there, we started smoking. I'm like, okay, now what? Into it was like, thank God. Like, Amsterdam's like the most museums in the world per capita is in Amsterdam. But, like, we literally got all the way over there, smoked, and, like, looked around and was kind of like, now what? You know what I'm saying?
B
You went straight to the red light district.
A
Nah, we definitely glanced by it, though, peeking over there. And I don't think nobody wanted to get caught spending their money and getting that reputation. But no, it was definitely. It was definitely some cool. But consumption lounges, I don't feel like they do well. Like, you only gonna sell chicken fingers.
C
Yeah.
A
Pie heads don't really drink alcohol like, you sell out. If you have a restaurant out here and you have a bar, your bar does 65 of your revenue. Consumption lounge, like, what are you gonna charge me? Like, a sacking fee, like, instead of a corking fee? I don't really see how that works out too well. And what makes me really want to get off my couch and go smoke weed at you on your couch? Yeah, you know, like a hookah lounge. Okay. Hookah's a lot of work. You got to have somebody come. But I don't. And you can have alcohol. I would have a hookah lounge over. Over a weed consumption lounge. People smoke weed wherever. Weed is like an accessory thing. It's not the thing you want to do. It just makes everything a little bit better. You want to go to the club, you want to go watch a movie, smoke weed, it makes everything just a little bit better. You have sex, smoke weed, it makes it a little bit better. It's not the main thing you want to do. It's kind of an accessory to everything you want.
C
Yeah.
B
What's the highest you've ever been? Who are you with? And what happened?
A
Me and Snoop got high. Pretty, pretty high. One time.
B
You had a little smoke off.
A
Me and Snoop sat on the balcony at the Palms one time. We was like a. Like a late. It was like a hotel party that we were at, and really, it just ended up being me and him sitting on the balcony smoking. Like, you know, chick would come out every once in a while when he come smoke with us and just take a picture with him. But really, me and him just sat on the balcony and just smoked until son came up. It was pretty tight. I Ain't gonna lie. Like, know who Snoop was and being a little kid looking up to him and then like being able to have that story is pretty tight.
B
Yeah, that's a once in a lifetime opportunity. I feel like.
A
Yeah, there's some pretty cool people out here. We. And we attracts cool people to you. We just open up a lot of doors for me, you know what I mean? You get around the right people, like even just have it in your pocket. It smells good. I remember we used to walk around at the AVN convention out here and have weed in our pocket and every chick would walk by like, oh, you got that? That's our little. That'd be just our little way to like get in with the girls and be chopping up with the girls.
B
Yeah, that's so smart. I didn't even think of that.
A
Any. Anything you go, man. Just leave it open. Just put it in your pocket. Believe it open.
C
Yeah.
B
This is a perfect spot for it. Same thing here with all these influen.
A
Everybody here would want to come and see. Hey man, you got that? You know, and if it's good weed and it's loud, you're going to attract everybody around you.
B
Oh yeah. And your shit's loud.
A
Good.
B
Allegedly. Well, dude, it's been cool. Where could people find you on social media and keep up with you?
A
Natter_nevada. It's n a d e r_nevada. I'm just around, man. If you see me outside, come say hi. It's all good. Shake your hand, make a friend.
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Oh yeah, check him out guys. Stay tuned. He's gonna be blowing up over the next few months. See you next time.
Digital Social Hour Episode Summary: "Nader: Social Media Success Don’t Get Left Behind | DSH #1427"
Release Date: July 1, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Introduction
In Episode #1427 of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in a candid and revealing conversation with guest Nader, a controversial figure who has navigated the tumultuous waters of federal investigations and the evolving landscape of the marijuana industry. The episode delves deep into Nader's personal experiences, the state of the legal cannabis market, and the role of social media in modern entrepreneurial success.
1. Nader’s Legal Journey and Recent Freedom (00:01 – 00:52)
Nader opens up about his prolonged struggle with the federal legal system, spanning 17 years of bail, investigations, and federal supervision.
0:34: “There hasn't been a day since April of 07 to August of 24 that I haven't been either out on bail, under investigation, or on federal supervision.”
0:52: Expressing relief, Nader shares, “It’s pretty good to have that like off my back now and be able to travel and go places and get my passport back.”
2. Origin of Legal Troubles and Federal Cases (00:59 – 04:02)
Nader recounts how his initial legal issues began in April 2007, triggered by his presence on social media, which attracted the attention of local law enforcement.
He details the escalation to a significant federal case involving 22,000 pounds of marijuana, highlighting the intensity of federal scrutiny during that period.
3. The Current State of the Marijuana Market (04:02 – 09:56)
Nader provides an incisive analysis of the legal cannabis market, emphasizing declining profitability and market saturation.
He discusses the significant tax burdens and operational costs that erode profit margins for dispensaries.
Nader contrasts the quality and sustainability of cannabis in California versus other states, citing logistical challenges such as long transportation times from Tennessee to Oklahoma.
4. Legalization vs. Federal Sentencing (09:56 – 12:36)
The conversation shifts to the discrepancy between state legalization of marijuana and persistent harsh federal sentencing.
Despite widespread legalization, Nader criticizes the severity of federal sentences, sharing his friend’s experience of a nine-year sentence despite legalization in many states.
He highlights the inconsistencies in the legal system and the ongoing stigmatization of cannabis-related offenses.
5. Insights into the Cannabis Industry and Market Dynamics (12:36 – 17:37)
Nader offers a critical perspective on the operational aspects of the cannabis industry, including law enforcement tactics and market commoditization.
He discusses the potential decline of the black market in favor of a saturated legal market, emphasizing the diminishing returns for entrepreneurs.
Nader also touches on the challenge of maintaining quality in the face of mass production and regulatory pressures.
6. The Role of Social Media in Modern Success (17:38 – 19:07)
Transitioning to the influence of social media, Nader emphasizes its critical role in contemporary success, especially for individuals who prefer to stay low-key.
He reflects on his personal shift from being behind the camera to engaging more directly with social media platforms to expand his reach and influence.
7. Upcoming Projects and Perspectives on Authentic Coaching (19:08 – 23:48)
Nader announces an upcoming documentary split into two parts, detailing his state and federal cases to shed light on the broader implications of being labeled a criminal based on environmental factors.
He critiques the prevalence of inauthentic online coaches, emphasizing the importance of tangible success and genuine experience over mere rhetoric.
Nader underscores the value of surrounding oneself with genuine, successful individuals rather than those merely presenting an illusion of success.
8. Personal Anecdotes and Reflections on Cannabis Culture (20:09 – 23:48)
The episode concludes with Nader sharing personal stories that highlight his long-standing connection to cannabis culture and its social dynamics.
He reflects on the changing perceptions of cannabis consumption, from clandestine activities during his youth to the more mainstream and commercially viable practices today.
Nader also critiques the business models of cannabis consumption lounges, comparing them unfavorably to traditional bars and hookah lounges.
Conclusion
Sean Kelly and Nader's in-depth discussion on Digital Social Hour offers listeners a multifaceted look into the intertwining worlds of federal legal battles, the evolving cannabis industry, and the indispensable role of social media in achieving modern success. Nader's personal narratives and critical insights provide a compelling narrative on resilience, adaptation, and the shifting paradigms of entrepreneurship in the digital age.
Notable Quotes
0:34 - Nader: “There hasn't been a day since April of 07 to August of 24 that I haven't been either out on bail, under investigation, or on federal supervision.”
4:04 - Nader: “Black market, green market. Like even if you see out here in these dispensaries right now, they're losing money.”
10:09 - Nader: “39 states have some type of form of legalization in it right now.”
18:22 - Nader: “If you're not getting money with the Internet and you're not part of this, you are going to get left behind.”
22:19 - Nader: “Me and Snoop sat on the balcony at the Palms one time... it just ended up being me and him sitting on the balcony smoking.”
Connect with Nader
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Stay tuned for more unfiltered conversations on Digital Social Hour as Sean Kelly continues to explore the lives of the world's most thought-provoking figures.