Natural Alternatives That Big Companies Don't Want You To Know | Tracy Lee DSH #949

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour | Episode #949: Natural Alternatives That Big Companies Don't Want You To Know with Tracy Lee

Release Date: December 4, 2024
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Tracy Lee

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1. Introduction to Tracy Lee and Firearms Passion

Tracy Lee, a long-time resident of Las Vegas and a firearms enthusiast, shares her journey into the firearms industry and how it intertwines with her career and personal interests.

• Firearm Selection and Experience:
  • [00:25] Tracy discusses the prevalence of counterfeit olive oil as a segue into her firearm collection, emphasizing the importance of authenticity.
  • [00:52] “I plead the fifth.” – Tracy humorously addresses questions about carrying firearms in casinos.
  • [02:20] Tracy recounts her first experience with firearms, inspired by UFC fighter Dan Henderson, which ignited her passion for shooting.

2. Involvement with UFC and Content Creation

Tracy delves into her early involvement with the UFC scene, highlighting her role in content creation before the advent of mainstream social media.

• Content Pioneer:
  • [08:22] “I was the unofficial social director for the UFC...” – Tracy explains her role in organizing pre and post-fight parties, capturing exclusive content.
  • [08:55] “I've been building content from way before anyone was really building content.” – Emphasizing her early adoption of content creation.

3. Health Challenges and Dietary Changes

Tracy opens up about her prolonged battle with anemia and the severe health issues she faced due to an improperly managed keto diet.

• Anemia and Kidney Stones:

  • [12:07] Tracy shares her struggles with anemia, leading to debilitating kidney stones.
  • [14:10] Describes the painful experience of passing multiple kidney stones while maintaining her active lifestyle.
  • [12:20] “I can’t even target when I started because I didn’t know I was anemic...” – Highlighting the impact of her health on her shooting abilities.

• Dietary Missteps:

  • [12:26] Tracy details how high oxalate foods like spinach and almonds contributed to her kidney stones.
  • [17:11] “I have to really pick and choose the way you’re gonna eat...” – Emphasizing the necessity of a controlled diet.

4. Transition to an Animal-Based Diet

In response to her health issues, Tracy transitioned to an animal-based diet, focusing on nutrient-dense foods to combat anemia and improve overall health.

• Dietary Shift:
  • [20:08] Tracy credits Paul Saladino for introducing her to the animal-based diet.
  • [21:12] “I eat a lot of grass-fed beef... raw liver...” – Outlining her dietary staples.
  • [23:14] “I eat half an ounce a day of raw liver...” – Discussing the benefits and precautions of consuming raw liver.

5. Concerns About Processed Foods and Additives

Tracy expresses her skepticism towards processed foods, preservatives, and common additives, advocating for whole, unprocessed ingredients.

• Processed Food Critique:

  • [18:25] Tracy explains her elimination of plastics, preservatives, and pesticides from her diet and daily life.
  • [30:07] “I've removed all those from my diet as much as possible...” – Detailing her avoidance of seed oils and processed ingredients.

• Natural Alternatives:

  • [29:22] Tracy shares her homemade sunscreen recipe using beef tallow, coconut oil, beeswax, and zinc oxide.
  • [31:10] “A lot of the olive oil is scams...” – Warning against adulterated olive oils and advocating for quality sources.

6. Personal Lifestyle Changes and Product Choices

Tracy outlines the numerous lifestyle adjustments she has made to support her health, including changes in cookware, personal care products, and clothing.

• Lifestyle Adjustments:

  • [19:07] “I got rid of all of those. They all have phthalates in them.” – Referring to air fresheners and other household products.
  • [27:37] Tracy discusses the hidden toxins in everyday items like sports bras and deodorants, opting for natural alternatives.
  • [29:24] “I'm making my own skincare now...” – Highlighting her move towards DIY personal care products to avoid harmful chemicals.

• Sustainability and Ethical Choices:

  • [24:33] Tracy mentions sourcing meat from local farms and hunting, emphasizing quality and ethical consumption.
  • [25:17] “I'm looking to get another freezer... to buy a quarter cow...” – Planning for sustainable meat storage.

7. Social Media and Public Awareness

Tracy discusses her approach to sharing her health and lifestyle journey on social media, navigating censorship, and educating her audience.

• Content Strategy:

  • [33:32] “I haven't talked about the health stuff too much...” – Tracy reveals her cautious approach to sharing health-related content.
  • [34:03] Tracy addresses the challenges of social media censorship when discussing natural health alternatives and critiques of big corporations.

• Engagement and Education:

  • [47:54] Tracy encourages listeners to verify product claims and educates on the importance of ingredient transparency.
  • [42:18] “I use Yuka...” – Discussing tools for evaluating product healthiness, while noting their limitations.

8. Final Thoughts and Future Directions

Tracy concludes with reflections on the broader implications of dietary and lifestyle choices, the influence of big corporations, and her ongoing commitment to health and authenticity.

• Critique of Big Corporations:

  • [34:06] “Big food companies are owned by the tobacco companies...” – Tracy criticizes the conglomerate nature of major food corporations and their impact on public health.
  • [35:26] Tracy expresses optimism about political figures like Robert Kennedy Jr. advocating for healthier America despite corporate opposition.

• Personal Resilience and Advocacy:

  • [45:33] Tracy emphasizes the importance of personal agency in making health-conscious decisions.
  • [51:24] Tracy provides her social media handles for listeners to follow her journey and learn more about her initiatives.

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Notable Quotes:

• “A lot of the olive oil is scams. Like, they're mixed with and rendered down with a lot of canola oil...” – Tracy Lee [00:02]
• “I plead the fifth.” – Tracy Lee [00:52]
• “I've been building content from way before anyone was really building content.” – Tracy Lee [08:55]
• “I can’t even target when I started because I didn’t know I was anemic...” – Tracy Lee [12:07]
• “I eat a lot of grass-fed beef... raw liver...” – Tracy Lee [20:08]
• “A lot of the olive oil is scams...” – Tracy Lee [30:07]
• “Big food companies are owned by the tobacco companies...” – Tracy Lee [34:06]
• “I eat half an ounce a day of raw liver...” – Tracy Lee [23:14]

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Conclusion:

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Tracy Lee provides an insightful look into her personal journey towards health and authenticity, navigating the complexities of modern diets, and challenging the prevalence of processed foods and corporate influences. Her candid discussions offer valuable perspectives for listeners seeking natural alternatives and striving for a healthier lifestyle.

For more information and to follow Tracy Lee's ongoing journey, visit her social media profiles:

• Instagram: @TracyGuns, @MSTracyLee
• YouTube, Facebook, Twitter: Search for "Tracy Lee"

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This summary is intended for informational purposes and reflects the discussions and viewpoints expressed by Tracy Lee during the podcast episode.

Transcript

[A]

Believe in really as much as possible.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because a lot of the olive oil is scams. Like, they're mixed with and rendered down with a lot of canola oil often. So unless you read your labels and see where your olive oil is coming from, there's a good chance you're not getting true olive oil.

[B]

I could see that. Because there's no way they can make it for five bucks at the grocery store. So they sell it for. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

All right, guys, got Tracy Lee here today. Someone I've known for a while now in Vegas. Yeah, four years now.

[A]

Four years.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah. I love it out here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Love living in Vegas.

[B]

You pulled up.

[A]

Carrying what? Oh, yeah, always. I always carry. And it's funny because people have no idea I'll be wearing the skimpiest outfit. And they're all like, so where's your gun? And I'm like, trust me, I got it.

[B]

Nice. So even the casinos you bring?

[A]

I plead the fifth.

[B]

I know some of them are strict. That's why I asked. But Vegas is concealed state, Right. So you could kind of bring it wherever.

[A]

Yeah, but there's certain ones that have signs at the door that I may or may not see when I walk in.

[B]

I. I bought a Glock when I moved here.

[A]

What did you buy?

[B]

Just a regular 1. Glock 9 millimeter.

[A]

1917.

[B]

I think so. Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Is it big, right? Really big or medium size or small?

[B]

I'd say small, actually.

[A]

So There's a Glock 43, which is really tiny, but I don't think you would shoot that. Your hands would be, too.

[B]

It was like, 500 bucks.

[A]

I assume it's a Glock 19.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I got to learn how to use it.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

You'll take me?

[A]

Yeah, I'll take you.

[B]

Where do you shoot out here?

[A]

Well, I run social media for the Pro Gun Vegas out in Boulder City. So we can go use their range, or I go to the desert, and I go for indoor ranges that go to range 702.

[B]

Okay. What. What drove you to get so passionate in that. In that space?

[A]

So I was traveling around the world with the ufc, and I guess Dan Henderson took me shooting for my first time. And that was after one of his fights in Portland, Oregon. And we. We went to shoot skeet afterwards. And translating, shooting at moving subjects on, you know, in the. In the cage to shooting on a range, it translated super well. So. Oh, yeah, I. Yeah, I. I got addicted. And then I built a relationship with one of the gun ranges Here in Vegas, the gun store. And we used. I used to take all the fighters there and they would let me shoot for free.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

If I brought fighters in because they were huge fight fans and we're talking about I think 2009, 2010. So I mean, it became an era where we were going shooting and then we go out to the racetrack and race cars down at exotics racing. We do dune buggies. You know, I was always taking guys because I had a website where I would shoot behind the scenes of the fight industry. So I got addicted to shooting guns in that process. And then in 2015 I actually started taking classes. Bought my first gun then and the rest is history. So I'm almost 10 years in the firearms industry. Like really, really in depth in the firearms industry.

[B]

That's badass. Do you do those shooting competitions ever?

[A]

I do shooting competitions. I'm not like some hardcore shooting competitor, but I shoot ironically, I shoot an AK competition once a month.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

And you know, that's why it's kind of sad with everything going on the news today. You know, it's sad that this guy decided to use an ak.

[B]

I was just gon. Why do you think he picked that gun specifically?

[A]

I'm not sure. And it could have to do with Ukraine. You know, they use a lot of AKs overseas in, in Russia, Ukraine and so on and so forth. So it could have something to do with that. But yeah, the minute I heard there was an ak, I was like, oh God, you knew? Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Damn. Are they that common AKs? Yeah.

[A]

There's a big subculture for AK47s. We prefer overseas AKs to USAKs. But there are some good quality USA case coming out now.

[B]

Interesting. So why are the overseas ones better?

[A]

They're just the original ones that built them.

[B]

Oh. So we tried to copy them.

[A]

Right, Exactly. So there's a. There's a lot to the process of building them that. There's a lot to the process of building them that, that they do better.

[B]

It's like cars. There's not many good American made cars.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So America, in terms of gun quality, we don't rank that high.

[A]

I mean, there are some great companies, but it seems like, I mean, Glock is from Austria.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

You know, and that's a small country. Right.

[B]

They make all the Glocks. Wow.

[A]

There might. I think there is actually probably a factory here in the States, just like all of the overseas, you know, car companies. They all have factories here in the United States too. But they're originally designed overseas a Lot. Not all guns, but a lot of guns are.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah, I think I started shooting UFC around 2006.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

End of 2006, I was, my first fight was Stefan Bonner versus Forrest Griffin two. I didn't make the first one, but.

[B]

The second one super early.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So did you see it like taking off like this?

[A]

No, we didn't know. I mean, I thought at that time that was already taken off. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't super mainstream, but it was, it was more mainstream than underground at that point. I didn't, I didn't get in there at the full on underground aspect where, you know, it was called no holds barred, you know, so I've been, I've been around fighters and fights for a very long time and it's been interesting seeing it all change. I mean, they just did the fight at the Sphere, right. And I was watching a lot of responses to it. I didn't go, it was really cool. It looked, it looked incredible, but I didn't even watch it on tv. But the responses I saw from like Brendan Schaub had really negative responses. He called it Rainforest Cafe. He said, it looks really cool, but it didn't taste good.

[B]

Well, the fights probably played a part in that.

[A]

Yeah. And I was really surprised that they didn't have. And, and I don't want to knock any of the fighters, but I was surprised they didn't have, like, superstar fights.

[B]

Yeah, well, Jones got injured, Conor McGregor's injured. I think the timing was just bad.

[A]

Yeah. You know, so hopefully maybe they'll do it again with a bigger and better card and again, not to knock any of the fighters because Valentina is an amazing fighter, Merab is an amazing fighter, and congratulations to both of them.

[B]

Yeah, just from a fan's point of view, that kind of style doesn't translate well.

[A]

I'm not sure I didn't see it. I saw a lot of social media from people that were there, and it looked amazing. And I saw it looked like Mortal Kombat, you know, the stage on Mortal Kombat kind of thing. But. But I didn't see it on tv, so I don't know how well it translated on tv, but, I mean, looking at what Brendan said, it didn't translate very well.

[B]

Yeah. And you used to be involved with the parties right before the fights and after the fights.

[A]

So I took that upon myself. I was the unofficial social director for the ufc and I would throw pre parties. I would get sponsors, it would get fighters to, you know, host the parties or I would host them myself. I had my own website, it was called Combat Lifestyle. So I would shoot the fights, the weigh ins, so on, so forth. And also I would shoot pre parties, post parties. That's why I threw them. So I had the content.

[B]

That's smart.

[A]

So I've been building content from way before anyone was really building content.

[B]

Right, because you were doing photography before even social media existed.

[A]

Right, right. I mean, I. I always like to joke that I've been doing social media since before it was called social media.

[B]

What gave you that foresight? You think you just liked it?

[A]

You know, I was on so many of the different websites, we're talking Friendster and MySpace and all that stuff, and, you know, I messed up on MySpace. I was one of those, why would I accept all these people as my friends when I don't know them? And you got forbidden and Tila Tequila and all those people accepted everybody that requested them and they ended up with hundreds of thousands of followers and, you know, book deals and TV deals and so on and so forth. They are no longer alive. So maybe it's fortunate that I didn't do that. But it was probably, you know, put them into bad situations in having that much fame at such a young age. But I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, those. Those rarely work out, those child stars.

[A]

So they weren't quite child Stars. But, you know, back. That was back in the day.

[B]

They skyrocketed overnight fame. Back in the day, having 100k on MySpace was like a huge deal.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Yeah. You mentioned TV shows. You're about to be on a reality TV show.

[A]

Yeah, I have a reality show coming out end of September. It is called American Air Gunner Challenge. So it is kind of like. I've been told it's kind of like Top Shot, but I actually don't watch TV very often, so I haven't seen Top Shot. It's like Top shot for air guns. And it comes out on the Outdoor Channel. There's eight competitors. We went out to Arkansas in the heat of summer at the beginning, you know, in May, and we had to deal with a lot of weather. There's one day we almost had, I think lightning storm, hurricane type thing. Touchdown. But it was a lot of fun. I had a great time out there. And when we landed in Arkansas, we were all on the plane together, coming from a layover in Dallas. When we landed, we took a group picture together. And the girl that took the picture for us was like, oh, that's the last time you're gonna like each other. And we're just like, oh, my God. You know, hearing that the previous seasons didn't necessarily get along. We had the most fun. It was so hilarious. And I'm actually in the process of editing a video using the full House music and the Full House theme.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To put us all together in a video introducing us right before the show launches.

[B]

Nice. What platform is it going to be on?

[A]

Probably Instagram, TikTok, YouTube.

[B]

Okay. So you went independent route.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I mean, for this. I mean, because we're all going to collab on the video and it. Yeah. So as far as the video introducing us. Yeah, that's all us.

[B]

Got it. Got it.

[A]

Now we. Yeah, we were doing TikToks and, you know, dance videos throughout while we were filming. Just as long as we didn't show the actual show.

[B]

Smart little behind the scenes. You're always thinking like that. Right. Capturing the.

[A]

I did. I did follow me get or, you know, watch me get ready for. As a reality show contestant.

[B]

Yeah, that's cool. I want to talk about the health stuff. This is where it gets interesting.

[A]

Yeah. Because it's so political, too. Just like firearms are really political right now. The health stuff is really political. So I've had some health issues and been anemic for the past seven, eight years at least.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I can't even target. When I started Because I didn't know. I didn't know I was anemic for a long time. So I started in November. I guess I can go back a little bit. I did the keto diet in 2017-2019. I was in ketosis all the time, but I didn't know that spinach and almonds and almond flour and a lot of the things that you eat on the keto diet are high in oxalates. So I ate those things as if my life depended on it and ended up with kidney stones.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I ended up with three kidney stones in 2019. I passed him in September. I was on a range in Arizona, followed by a range in Florida. So a week of, you know, or five days of passing kidney stones.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

While I'm training and shooting.

[B]

You had that many?

[A]

I had. Well, so that was one kidney stone. It took me, you know, four or five days to pass. And like clockwork, I was taking CBD and ibuprofen to get through it. Get home. I think I've got, you know, I don't know, a bladder infection or kidney infection or something. Get home. Think it's a bladder infection. I address that. And then I have another kidney stone in October, and this one put me in the hospital. And so they did a CAT scan and figured out, oh, you have kidney stones. I said, oh, that's probably what happened in September. You got two. Two more. So I passed a kidney stone in October. And then. So September, October, and then the third one was in December. So the December one. Actually, the funny thing about the October one, I had scuba lessons that day. So I was like, okay, I'm going to drive home. And they're, no, you're not. They gave me Dilaudid and Trauma dollar.

[B]

What?

[A]

So I'm on narcotics, and I'm. I'm going to drive home. They're all like, no, you're not. So my friend Myra comes and picks me up. I'm going to Thailand the next month, so I need this. This scuba certification. She drives me to my scuba class, and I puke out the door on the way there, and I get scuba class, and I. There. They're like, thanks for being late. I was about 10 minutes late. Have my hospital bracelet on. I'm all like, well, I got. I got my hospital bracelet on. They're all, you didn't have to come. So everybody thinks I'm crazy because I went to Scoop class, but it was only the classroom portion. If I had been getting in the water that day, I wouldn't have Gone. Just to clarify. But, yeah, I puked one more time during class. Finished class trooper. But I had to do it, so. And that's the type of person I am. Try and push through anything. Fast forward to the third kidney stone. I'm in Houston, Texas, for an 8K competition.

[B]

Travel a lot.

[A]

Yes, I do. I'm out there for an AK competition and event. And the morning after the competition, I'm getting ready to head to the airport, start passing the third kidney stone. Oh, I think I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. And they had no ibuprofen, and I ended up taking. What's that powder? Ibuprofen powder.

[B]

Ibuprofen.

[A]

It comes. It starts at the b. It comes in a little packet, and it's powder. I tried to take that, and it doesn't come in a pill, so it doesn't have the coating. It doesn't go down easy. I puked immediately. So I go to the airport. I'm on the plane dying and pacing, sweating at the back of the plane. And the. The flight attendants are like, are you okay? And I go, kidney stone. And she goes, oh, my God. What can I get you? How can I help you? So she knew immediately. So it probably took me 14, 16 hours to pass that one.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It was horrible.

[B]

It's terrible. And that was all from the keto diet.

[A]

That was from the keto diet. And that was because I didn't know. And now there's tons of stuff that comes out, tons of videos out there that explain how bad oxalates are for you. They're little, sharp, razor thin, you know, pieces that the vegetables use as their defense mechanism.

[B]

Right.

[A]

They have no. No way to defend against you eating them. Not like animals have defense mechanism. That's their defense mechanisms. So when you have oxalates in your system, some people are more sensitive than others. They bind to calcium and they turn into kidney cells.

[B]

Wow. So when you see all these vegans and vegetarians, right.

[A]

There's a good chance that they are living with a lot of kidney stones.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

And especially stuff like spinach and leafy greens and kale and so on. So I'm one of those people that definitely looks at a list and knows what I can and can't eat now.

[B]

Yeah. I used to love kale chips. Oh, my gosh. But I cut them out completely.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I used to eat them all the time.

[A]

What made you stop?

[B]

I think Dave Asprey could have been one of those guys that were Talking about it, you know, oxalates, probably something like that. Yeah. Plus all the parasite stuff now is really sketchy too. And they're saying it's in a lot of vegetables, raw vegetables, parasites in almost anything.

[A]

If you let your dog lick your face, you got parasites in it. And that brings me to what I've been working on since November. I'm getting rid of what I call the five Ps. If you include parasites, it's six Ps. It is plastics, preservatives, pesticides, processed foods, products, you know, everyday products, and parasites. And so I've been going through and I made a long list, and I'll show you that list at some point of all the things that I'm trying to change and get rid of out of my diet. And you can actually add pfas, phthalates to that P list. You know, it's funny that they're all P's, but, yeah, I've been cutting all that stuff out of my diet. So I changed all my cookware. No more plastic. I drink. I don't drink out of plastic bottles. Even. These are bad aluminum. Like, not. But they're. They're coated in plastic.

[B]

Oh, they are.

[A]

So inside they have plastic in them. So. Yes.

[B]

I didn't know that. So all cans have plastics in them? Yes.

[A]

All soda cans, they have a plastic inner line in them. So not trying to knock cocoa, love. This is delicious. It just has to do with all cans. They have an inner lining in them of plastic. So I got rid of plastic bottles. I carry around a stainless steel cup with me everywhere. It's over there. I changed. No more plastic containers. Everybody does their meal prep. I use glass containers now for that. I got rid of the plugins. That was another piece.

[B]

Oh, the air fresheners.

[A]

Air fresheners, Yep. And the. The little trees that you hang in your car.

[B]

Oh, those are terrible.

[A]

Got rid of all of those. They all have phthalates in them. And what's crazy is when you smell them, it's like your body actually, it's not necessarily smelling good. It's. It's telling. Sending your body a signal to. To smell something different. So it's kind of masking it, but it's not getting rid of those horrible smells.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I'm not a professional in this. I am not, you know, fully educated. I'm self educated in all of this. I'm an autodidact. And everything that I've been doing and learning has been alongside Misha Tate, the UFC fighter, and she has Done a lot of teaching me. I spend a lot of time in her hyperbaric chamber to help with my anemia, to help oxygenate my blood. So I know I'm all over the place with this, but there's so much to talk about. I don't think we can even touch on it in one hour if you wanted to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, I've been doing all that and changing all that and it has helped some of my health issues. I went from, I know this is horrible to say, but I went from having two to three month long periods down to having normal length periods now.

[B]

So you were having them for two months?

[A]

I would have a period for not the heaviest days, would be the first seven to 14 days.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then I would have consistently keep going.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they're supposed to be a week, right?

[A]

There's supposed to be probably, I mean, normal three to five days.

[B]

You were having it for two months?

[A]

Two, three months.

[B]

For how long?

[A]

The last seven, eight years.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

So my anemia was through the roof. And so going to an animal based diet, eating red meat every day, eating eggs, getting carbs, carbohydrates, natural carbs, I'm okay with. So on an animal based diet, who? I found out about the animal based diet through Paul Saladino.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

And I'm a big fan of Paul Saladino. I'm a big fan of Sean Baker. Is it Baker? His last name?

[B]

Yeah, I've seen his stuff.

[A]

Yeah. And he's the guy who started the carnivore diet. And it's amazing what you see that the carnivore diet has done for people and the animal based diet has done for people. When you look at what the FDA has told people for the last God knows how many years, and you talk to Jordan Peterson and he says the food pyramid is a total marketing ploy and a total scam. And I 100% believe it. 11 servings of food Pyramid carbs a day. That is absolutely insane. Because we look at it. Now that I know what I know, the keto diet's not wrong. You just have to do it right. And a lot of people do the keto diet wrong. And that's what I was doing. So I leaned more into the animal based diet, which again is red meat. I eat a lot of grass fed beef. I'm eating raw milk. It's hard to find in Las Vegas. I ate raw kefir, which you can find at Sprouts. I'm eating raw cheese as much as Possible. I don't know if you saw me bring in a hunk of raw cheese.

[B]

No, I love raw cheese.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm, I also am, like, eating frozen blueberries. I'm eating raw honey. And the big one I'm eating just started recently is raw liver. I eat grass fed raw liver and I tell people all the time because I put videos up of it on my stories. Don't call me Liver Queen because I don't love this. I don't love raw liver.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I eat it raw because if you cook raw liver to 160 degrees, that will get rid of the bacteria. It will also get rid of all the nutrients that you're taking the raw liver for raw liver for in the first place.

[B]

Did you get inspired by Liver King?

[A]

Not at all. It had nothing to do with Liver King. It had to do with Paul Saladino.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yep. He eats raw liver every day. And it's funny because I was looking at some of the podcasts you did. One of the guys on there said he started losing all the hair on the front of his legs because of an overabundance of vitamin A. Liver has a ton of vitamin A and you can definitely have issues from the toxicity of it. So I feel like Liver King was doing people an injustice by telling them to eat all this liver and potentially, you know, hurt themselves or kill themselves on it because of how toxic it is. So I eat half an ounce a day of raw liver and that's it. I probably can do a little bit more than that because that works out to three and a half ounces a week. They say between four and eight ounces a week, but you don't want to eat a ton of it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because of that toxicity.

[B]

What about the bull testicles?

[A]

I have not tried. What, what do they call those? Rocky Mountain oysters. Is that what that is?

[B]

Something like that. Liver King eats them.

[A]

Yeah. No. Nope. Sorry.

[B]

Those are probably hard to find. I haven't seen those anywhere.

[A]

I don't know. I, I, I buy all my meat from the butcher block and I haven't searched their freezers to see if they have bull testicles, but they have kangaroo and they have camel and they have elk. You know, they have venison there, so.

[B]

I'm a fan of elk and venison.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I have a freezer full of deer right now.

[B]

Oh, yeah? That you hunted or that you bought? Oh, wow. Yeah. Where were the deer at? In Nevada.

[A]

So the deer was in Michigan. And I also hunted a ram up in Utah.

[B]

A Ram.

[A]

A ram. So that's lamb.

[B]

Oh, lamb, yeah. There's wild lamb out there.

[A]

Well, I mean I. That particular one. I was on a ranch.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

So it was a 65 acre ranch and it was my first time hunting. So I went, I got a turkey and I got a ram.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

And as much hunted meat as I can put in my freezer, I am down to do. I'm looking to get another freezer right now so I can buy a quarter cow and grass fed cow and put that in my freezer.

[B]

I've been looking into that. Because you save a ton of money.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Because it's like a couple thousand. Right.

[A]

I'm a big fan. Well, that's not what I want to do it. I want the healthy meat. I don't want the farm processed meat. Just like the farm processed the farm salmon.

[B]

Oh, I would never eat that.

[A]

Horrible. It's horrible. And we go back to talking about parasites, the amount of parasites in those meats.

[B]

Just seafood in general too. With parasites. I cut back sushi heavily.

[A]

I cut back sushi as well. And I love sushi so much.

[B]

I used to go to sushi Neko all the time.

[A]

Right. And I went to sushi. I went to Jenga.

[B]

Jenga.

[A]

Jenga over on Flamingo. And I love that place so much. But because of the, of the parasites, I have cut back a ton.

[B]

And the microplastics.

[A]

And the microplastics, exactly.

[B]

Yeah. Those are awful.

[A]

And that's, I mean, again, changing all the, all the stuff in my life as much as possible. Like, wait till you see the list. And there's a list of things I have that I'm thankful I didn't do. And one of them was the vaccine. I am so thankful I didn't do the vaccine.

[B]

Same.

[A]

And I'm also thankful I didn't do any tattoos. And some tattoo ink is good, but some of it is really bad.

[B]

So that's actually affecting people tattoos. How so?

[A]

There's toxicity. Excuse me, Toxicity in the inks. And I'm trying to think what else. After I got my boobs done, I didn't. I stopped wearing bras and I started wearing sports bras. So the sports bras that I've worn for the last, you know, almost 20 years have been cotton, mostly cotton. They have a little bit of spanix in them, but they've been mostly cotton. Do you know that there's phthalates in a ton and forever chemicals in a ton of the athletic wear that we wear and a ton of the shion sheen shine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Teemu stuff.

[B]

The fast fashion stuff.

[A]

The fast fashion stuff. So there's tons of phthalates and forever chemicals and BPAs and all that kind of stuff in those things. And I for the last 20 years have worn fruit of the Loom sports bras which is think I'm very thankful because that's where our, all our sweat ducts are. All the things that are really important that absorb this stuff. I'm just thankful that out, not out of knowledge, just sheer coincidence that I did that.

[B]

Yeah. Apparently some of those boob jobs, they used poor quality materials.

[A]

Right? The bags.

[B]

Yeah, the bags. And it leaches into the bloodstream, right?

[A]

Yeah. I have to do some research on that. I'm trying, I'm trying to get through everything, all the products, everything that I've done, you know, everything I've done in my past and everything that I'm doing currently in my future. And the list is long. If I can change 50 to 80% of what I've done or what I'm doing, I think that if I don't already have some kind of long term disease and cancer that I potentially won't get it.

[B]

You could detect that now too with Prnuva. What is full body MRI scan. Oh yeah. Detects disease pretty early. Yeah. Look into them. It's exciting that these companies are starting that are more preventative now.

[A]

Is there somewhere in Vegas that you can get that done?

[B]

I don't know if they're in Vegas, it might be in la. But there's a lot of these preventative tests now that you could do like blood test, gene tests. Have you done any of those?

[A]

I just did a blood test last week so I haven't gotten all the results back.

[B]

Which company did you use?

[A]

Oh, I didn't use one of the companies. I actually did my annual at the doctor and then made it, gave him a list of all the blood testing done.

[B]

Nice. That's cool. Yeah. Because if you don't do that, they'll just test like basic stuff.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

It won't be comprehensive.

[A]

It was, it was like fighting with my doctor. He's a what? He looks at the list. He's all, I wouldn't normally prescribe half this stuff. I said, yeah, but I want it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so I went through and then I talked to Quest Diagnostics to see what my insurance was going to cover and fortunately everything I chose my insurance.

[B]

Really? That's rare. I feel like it wouldn't cover.

[A]

So I, I bet you there's a lot that That I missed, but I'm still learning all of this.

[B]

Nice. And you make your own sunscreen too, right?

[A]

I do.

[B]

How do you do that?

[A]

So I take the beef tallow that I render from beef fat and you mix it with unrefined coconut oil, beeswax, and. Oh my God, why did I just space that beeswax and zinc oxide? So unrefined coconut oil, the beef tallow that I render and beeswax and zinc oxide.

[B]

Okay. I love coconut oil. I use it for oil pulls.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You do that?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you. What do you think of it?

[B]

Amazing. If you go back to my first episode, my teeth were so yellow.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I've been thinking about doing that. So you use unrefined coconut oil?

[B]

No, I use coconut oil. What's the difference?

[A]

So unrefined, it doesn't go through a lot of the processing, so it's a little bit healthier.

[B]

Really? Okay. I got to look into that.

[A]

So you can get organic unrefined coconut.

[B]

Oil where you get that?

[A]

I mean, even. I don't know how good a quality, but even Walmart has the unrefined coconut oil.

[B]

I didn't even think about that. So even just coconut oil is processed. That's crazy.

[A]

Yep. And that goes into seed oils, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You look at seed oils, the process, and you know the scam that canola oil is, it is such a bad thing for our diets. I've removed all those from my diet as much as possible. So I'm cooking with homemade butter. I make butter at home. And I also am using beef tallow. I'm staying away from olive oil even. Really as much as possible.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because a lot of the olive oil is scams. Like they're mixed with and rendered down with a lot of canola oil often. So unless you read your labels and see where your olive oil is coming from, there's a good chance you're not getting true olive oil.

[B]

I could see that. Because there's no way they can make it for five bucks at the grocery store. So they sell it for. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's.

[A]

Why don't buy your olive oil at the 99 cents.

[B]

Hell no.

[A]

Or the One25 store, whatever it's called.

[B]

Now I buy my olive oil from Brian Johnson because I know he. He third party tested and everything, so.

[A]

So I've been looking at Brian Johnson a lot lately and I know he spends millions and millions of dollars and doing everything he's doing, but everything that he is doing, I look at his diet and so on and so forth is so different that what I see, the peers around me and the people I look up to are not doing what he's doing.

[B]

Well, yeah, he's vegan, so that's a huge difference. Plus, he's taking 120 supplements a day.

[A]

Right. And to me, I mean, I guarantee his supplements are high quality. But I stopped taking a lot of my supplements, and that's why I switched over to raw liver. Because the supplements that you get, if you're looking at the jar, has tons of fake, you know, synthetic supplements. We're talking about folic acid instead of folate, which you can get folate in meat and in liver. And we're talking about sienna cobalamin instead of actual B12. That's a synthetic B12. So a lot of those things I was going through and I bought iron supplements this week, and I'm looking at all the labels and all the crap in them, and I was just like, I can't do this. Like, I found titanium dioxide and a ton of the iron supplements, and I'm like, why is there titanium dioxide in this? Why do they need that? And then a lot of them had sienna cobalam in. I'm like, what is going on? So. And again, I am not educated when it comes to this stuff. I just know all the research that I have done that some of those things are really bad. So I made sure when I got the iron supplements, there's no coating on them. They're. They're little white pills that, you know, if you're not careful, it's going to dust off and they're going to, like, if you put it in a plastic bag, they'll probably end up disintegrating, you know, because. Because they don't have those coatings on. I way rather not have the coating on them. You know, I'd rather throw it to the back of my throat and hope it doesn't hit my tongue. And, you know, I don't want to taste it, but that's. That's what I have to do to get all this crap out of my diet. That's what I do.

[B]

Yeah, the more natural, the better. Do you find social media censoring you when you talk about this type of stuff?

[A]

So I haven't dove into talking about the health stuff too much. I do have a separate account for it. It was. It used to be called keto chasers, and I was doing it when I was on the keto diet. I changed it to healthy chasers because of the fact that I'm no longer specifically on the keto diet, but getting into ketosis, I think is very important. So I haven't talked about it a ton. I'm just now starting to put stuff out on that.

[B]

Got it. I've. I've had a couple videos censored.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm not surprised they're censoring anything that is hindering big pharma, that is hindering the food. Food companies, the big corporations, which I'm sure you know this, but I'm not sure everybody watching knows this, that all of the big food companies are owned by the tobacco companies. So you're talking about the Nestle's, the Kellogg's, the General Mills. They're all owned by the tobacco companies. The tobacco companies are excellent at marketing to our kids and excellent at marketing to us to get us addicted to their foods.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

With the sugars and the processed foods. And, you know, that's why I think that it's great that Robert Kennedy Jr. Has dropped out of the race and gone on Trump's side, because I feel like there's no way that big pharma and the health care system and the corporations would allow RFK to get into office with his mission that he's on to make America healthy again. But with him by Trump's side, if they can get into office, I think he has. He stands to be very successful at what he's trying to do.

[B]

Yeah. I'm really excited to see what kind of changes he gets because, yeah, those companies are so good at marketing to children. I still remember those serial commercials growing up, like the Cocoa Puffs and tricks for kids and all that, and Fruity.

[A]

Pebbles and Fruit Loops and all that stuff. And it's funny. Oreo. And I love Oreos.

[B]

I used to love those. The double stuff.

[A]

I love Oreos so much. Oreos just launched a Coca Cola Oreo. I saw it going viral on social media and on Facebook. I commented, all I see is red 40. Jeez. One side of the cookie is completely red. All I see is red 40. So I go and look up and someone goes, boohoo. Waha. That, like, that was their response. So I go to their page and this is probably not nice, but go to their page and I look, she's overweight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I very calmly say back to her, well, perhaps if you were concerned about stuff like this, instead of making fun of me, maybe your weight and your loved ones weights would be a lot more in control.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you know, it was funny. The whole thread of people commenting on the Oreos was people excited about the Oreos. And then my post was all these different people commenting. Oh my God. I thought the same thing. Oh, wow. You know, Talking about the Red 40 and, and siding with me on that. So I don't know if you've seen that. There's a lot of stuff when it comes to autism and they're talking that kids by 2030 or 2035, it's going to be one in two kids that have autism. They have about one in five right.

[B]

Now, which is crazy.

[A]

Which is insane. But autism didn't barely exist, you know, back in the 50s, 60s, as things have changed with our diets and so on and so forth, the. That's very prominent. And a lot of them react really negatively to heavy metals and to the dyes in our foods. And that's the Doritos and the Cheetos and all the Fruit Roll ups and so on, so forth. And it's funny. Have you seen the parasite? I don't know what it's called because I can't say it, but it starts with C O C H. It's a red parasite.

[B]

I haven't seen it.

[A]

That they're using to color food now.

[B]

What?

[A]

Mm, that's in a lot of foods. And you see they're making crickets in food now too.

[B]

I've seen the bug movement. Yeah. There's a couple celebrities that have been.

[A]

I sit there and I war with do I want to eat this parasite, you know, that is used to color food or do I want to eat these manufactured colored dyes? I'm going to eat the parasite all day long over those. Yeah. It's not a live parasite. They're using it as a coloring in your foods.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So do I want something natural versus unnatural? That's, that's where I.

[B]

100 so crazy. One and two in five years. That means everyone watching this. If you're planning on having kids, you got a 50, 50 chance.

[A]

And, and if you are planning on having kids, it's really concerning as far as what your diet is because kids are being born with cancer because of what their parents are eating going into it.

[B]

So even the mother, what they're eating.

[A]

And the father, not just the mother, it's the father as well.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Because he's half of that baby.

[B]

They don't think about that.

[A]

You don't think about that. And I mean it's, it's in your alcohol. If you think about it. Your alcohol is, is made from like your beer is made from hops that are sprayed with glyphosate. And glyphosate is one of the most prominent pesticides out there. And glyphosate is, you know, it's doing all different kinds of things to your body. It's an endocrine descript disruptor. It is, you know, causing people to be sick. And that becomes a part of your sperm and that gets passed down as, you know, as you have a baby.

[B]

Wow. It gets passed through the sperm?

[A]

Well, I mean, not directly, but, you know, the unhealthiness of it. I can't say again, please don't take me as. I am not the end all be all on this. I'm doing my own research and I'm possibly not articulating well, but yes, I mean, your unhealthy habits are passed through the sperm. Yes.

[B]

Damn, that's scary times, man. Because glyphosate lasts for decades, they're saying.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

So you can't just get rid of it easily. Right, Right.

[A]

It's in your system. And then heavy metals as well. And I mean, they found lead in. In what are the kids, Lunchables.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

[A]

Lead in lunchables. I mean, it's in everything. And you have to really pick and choose the way you're gonna eat. So I'm eating whole ingredient foods as much as possible. I am going to the local farms. I pick my own fruits and vegetables at the local farms. I'm picking up pasture eggs, organic eggs, as much as possible. You know, I'm doing all those things. We can't get it. We can't get rid of it like it's in our rainwater. But we can reduce it as much as possible. We can make those choices.

[B]

And speaking of lunchables, did you see Mr. Beast and Logan Paul just launched a competitor?

[A]

No, I didn't.

[B]

Lunchly.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't know that. So what. What is their shtick on it? What is their.

[B]

I was disappointed because they had a chance to make that like a healthy competitor, but instead they put a prime bottle, Mr. Beast chocolate bar, and then processed deli meat. And that's a lunch, Lee.

[A]

So. So they're just going head to head. That's it. They don't care about it didn't seem.

[B]

Like that I gotta read the exact ingredients. But I feel like that was an opportunity that they could have, you know, made some movement on the health.

[A]

Well, especially with prime having lawsuits against it for having certain ingredients in some of their prime bottles. I Don't think all of the prime products have it, but I think it was. I don't remember exactly what substance was in it, but it was three times the amount that was legally allowed.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. And he went through a lawsuit on that.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Recently. Within the last year, I believe.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, anything artificial is going to be obviously not good for you in some capacity.

[A]

And then even they. They banned it from Gatorade. Gatorade had this substance in it as well.

[B]

Oh, really? Well, Gatorade's terrible for you too. Correct. And we drank that all the time as athletes growing up.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

And they market it in a way.

[A]

Where it was healthy.

[B]

Right. It was good for you on the field to get those electrolytes.

[A]

Yep. And electrolytes are important. I won't argue that at all. But getting the right electrolytes and looking at your labels, that's the biggest thing I can't tell you. I probably annoy the hell out of people all the time. I look at labels of things that they're eating and I'm like, this is crap. This is crap. What am I supposed to do? Yeah, there's an app for everything. But what, what app is it?

[B]

Yuka?

[A]

Yeah, I used Yuca. I don't always agree with yuca because of me being on the animal based diet. Yuca, for example, I use coconut aminos to make a garlic sauce, an Asian garlic sauce that I used to cook with. And when you scan it in yuca, it will mark it as being bad and then give me referral to all these different soy sauces. Well, guess what? I'm trying to get soy and that estrogen out of my. Out of my system. I don't want that. And so I'm using the coconut aminos instead, which has no soy in it. And the reason why it marks it as bad is because it's got too much sugar. Well, it has blossom nectar, which again, going back to what I'm. What I'm doing in my diet, natural sugars is okay. I'm not trying to do any processed sugars and I'm definitely not doing any erythritols and xylitols and all the fake sugars except for allulose. Have you heard of allulose?

[B]

No.

[A]

So allulose. And again, don't quote me on this. Allulose is the closest thing you can get to sugar without actually being sugar. It doesn't. Your body doesn't digest it, so it just passes it through. It's probably about 70 to 80% the sweetness of Sugar. And of anything that I've seen out there and all the research that I've done, it is the only sugar substitute that has been. That seems to be doing good. But it's a lot newer than erythritol. At one point, people were like, erythritol, xylitol were great. And now they're shown to be toxic, causing heart. Heart issues, heart conditions, and so on and so forth. And when people say monk fruit, okay, monk fruit's great as long as it doesn't have erythritol. But it is often binded with erythritol.

[B]

Wow. So allulose. I got. I got to look into that because we like baking at our house.

[A]

Yeah. And. And the. The cool thing is a lot of people don't know the secret. If you use allulose in your ice cream, it. Or even in your cookies, it makes them softer. It doesn't harden the way sugar does. If you don't. If you don't do the ice cream right. You know, if you want to just make your own ice cream at home, the olus actually keeps your ice cream softer.

[B]

Wow. Good to know. Because I love soft cookies. People that eat the hard ones are freaks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, what do you do?

[A]

Crunchy around the edges and soft in the middle.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It has to be soft in the middle, like when it's hard the whole way through.

[A]

Do you know how hard it is to say no to crumble cookies?

[B]

I don't like crumble. It's too sweet for me.

[A]

Yeah, they are. They're very sweet. But I'm just saying, those kind of cookies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's very hard.

[B]

Oh, yeah. The average person can't turn that down.

[A]

Right. But I mean, again, it's like 50.

[B]

Grams of sugar in one cookie.

[A]

No. And that's another thing. I don't drink coffee, so I never. I never got into drinking, you know, Starbucks. And when. When I would. Every once in a while, I'd have a Frappuccino, but I'm having a 1500 calorie drink. That. The only way I drink it is if I put all the sugar, all the caramel, all the whipped cream to hide the coffee taste. So why am I drinking it at all?

[B]

Wow. There's that many calories in that. That's.

[A]

I think. I think it's something like 15.

[B]

Yeah. There's no point in drinking it at that point then.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All the calories and sugar. That's not even coffee at that point. Right?

[A]

Yeah. So, I mean, if I were to drink straight coffee. I just never acquired a taste for it. And the same thing with alcohol. Never acquired a taste for alcohol either.

[B]

Yeah. Well, that's probably good for you.

[A]

Yeah, agreed.

[B]

When did you go blue? Like, with the hair and the nails and everything?

[A]

Oh, the blue has been coming up on six years. And what's really funny is people ask me, well, why blue? Well, blue is my favorite color, but at the time, I was working for my free cam, so you're familiar with my for cams? My Free Cams, it's a cam website. Like, you know, the. The dancers and the strippers, and it's. It's. They actually the owner of my free cams owns Only Fans now.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So it was like a before Only Fans thing.

[A]

It still exists. And that's one of the biggest sponsors of the porn convention every year. But I worked for them as a photographer. They would hire me to go to all the porn conventions across the country and sometimes in Canada. And I would shoot photos of the girls as they're camming at the My Free Cams booth in, you know, whatever city we were in. And then we would do all different kinds of events. He would get, you know, Diplo to spin for a party of 200 girls, and no guys were allowed except for the three guys at the top of the company. And anyways, a lot of the girls had different color hair. And I had told myself a long time ago that I wasn't doing no more drastic hair changes. No more. I chopped off my hair once. I went bleached blonde once. No more drastic hair changes. But for over a year, I wanted blue hair. So I finally was like, okay, I'm gonna do it.

[B]

Nice. Now you got to find some natural hair dye, right?

[A]

Well, actually, I think the. The hair dye, I haven't looked into it yet because, like I said, I'm going down the list. It's a process. But the hair dye I use, I think is vegan.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. That's good at least.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Because a lot of the beauty products, man, I feel bad for these women because social media makes them want to look beautiful and then put all this toxic chemicals all over their bodies.

[A]

Yep. I mean, Yuka doesn't even begin to cover a lot of those products. So there is another website that does research, and a lot of the products that you use, and I forget what it's called.

[B]

Text me it and I'll link it below so people watching can find it.

[A]

What, the web? It starts with an E. Is it.

[B]

A Site or an app?

[A]

It's a website.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it will. It will check a lot of the products that you are using in your everyday lives.

[B]

Yeah. Because the makeup, the body wash, the.

[A]

Deodorant, it's all skin care stuff, too. Is that they're checking.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Fortunately, my. My foundation through Mac is pretty good, according to that website.

[B]

Nice. That's good.

[A]

So I was like, oh, thank God.

[B]

There's some deodorants I used to use that would score zero out of 100. I was like, wow, I was using that for years.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

So my body wash is like that.

[B]

It's. It's a high score.

[A]

Yeah, it's a. It's a low score.

[B]

Oh, it's low.

[A]

Yeah, it's bad.

[B]

What brand were you using? Not to put them on the spot, but I use.

[A]

I use Swagger by Old Spice.

[B]

Yeah. My deodorant was Old Spice, so.

[A]

So the Old Spice deodorant didn't score that bad on Yuka.

[B]

Really?

[A]

But the body wash scored bad.

[B]

Oh, my deodorant. I used that one in Gillette, and they were both possibly.

[A]

But no, I. I checked it recently.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah. So I switched over to a more natural deodorant, but I ended up having allergic reaction to it.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

So I'm still in the process of figuring out what deodorant I want to use, but I'm making my own skin care now. I'm making my own tallow balm, and I put it, you know, all over my skin, and it has made my skin, my heels, my hands the most soft.

[B]

Really? From tallow?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I need to try that because my lips have been chopped and I put.

[A]

It on my lips.

[B]

Yeah. In Vegas. And then my. My hands are always pretty rough.

[A]

So I'll bring you some.

[B]

Okay. A little tallow on the lips?

[A]

Yeah, I'll bring you some. I have some jars at home.

[B]

Does it smell like meat?

[A]

No. So I render it three or four times to get rid of the meat smell, and then I put Doterra essential oils in it. So that's another thing people have no idea. If you're looking for essential oils, say on Amazon, if you do deep dives into some of those, a lot of them are coming from China. A lot of them coming from China. And the products, even at Whole Foods, I don't know if you know this. A lot of the ones that come from China, there's no regulations there. So they might put organic on the bottle and on the label, but it's not necessarily organic.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. You can't trust it.

[B]

A lot of people trust that O word organic, you know.

[A]

And you know, I switched over to tons of organic stuff, but I know that it's a marketing ploy and there's certain ways around things that. That companies get to be able to use that organic label, but it's not necessarily organic. But at the end of the day, I feel like organic is going to be better than non organic.

[B]

Probably. Yeah. Even candles. Got to be careful. Candles.

[A]

Yep. I cut candles out and then Misha made me a candle. I was like, okay, I trust this one.

[B]

Yeah. So crazy. I just. Everyday items we used for years growing up.

[A]

No more. What's the spray? Febreze no more.

[B]

Oh, hell no. My freshman year in high school, we're called Febreze and freshmen and we brought Febreze cans to the pep rally. We probably took months off our lives spraying it all over the place.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, everything thing, if it comes from a US company, chances are it's really bad.

[B]

Crazy. Well, unless.

[A]

Unless the small companies, the, you know, the. The companies that you find online that are making their stuff as natural as.

[B]

Possible, but then they get acquired by the big companies, so then you gotta find a new one. And it cycles every six months.

[A]

Yep. You know, it's unfortunate, but.

[B]

Well, I'm glad you shed some light on this. It was cool hearing your story. Where could people find you and learn more from you?

[A]

Oh, I have so many social media accounts, but I use Tracy guns for my firearm stuff the most. I also use Ms. Tracy Lee. So M S T R A C Y L E E on Instagram, I'm on YouTube, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Twitter. I'm all of them. So I'm easy to find because my bright blue hair.

[B]

There we go. We'll link below. Thanks for coming on, Tracy.

[A]

Oh, thanks for having me.

[B]

Yep. Thanks for watching guys, as always. See. See you next time.