NBA Players Are Scared to 1v1 This YouTuber... | DSH #1949

Summary

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Digital Social Hour: "NBA Players Are Scared to 1v1 This YouTuber..." | DSH #1949

Podcast Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: MK (Matthew K.)
Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly catches up with viral YouTube basketball phenom MK, known for revolutionizing the 1v1 format. MK returns nearly two years after his first Digital Social Hour appearance and discusses the meteoric rise of his career, the evolution and global expansion of his 1v1 challenges, and the cultural and business impact of his unique brand of basketball. The conversation is fast-paced, candid, and full of bravado, blending stories of viral moments, club shows, and global adventures with deeper insights into ego, inclusivity, risk, and the future of sports entertainment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

MK’s Meteoric Rise & Format Innovation

Timestamps: 00:41–05:49

• MK has exploded in popularity since his last appearance, reaching "2 billion views a month" across platforms (01:06).
• His recipe for success: fast-paced, highly-edited 1v1 basketball games, usually up to five points, favoring entertaining moments and succinct storytelling.
  • "That's the biggest compliment I get on the streets is like, yo, mk, you're changing the game. I actually watch your videos from start to finish." (04:41)
• MK’s dad is his main editor, condensing even 40-minute games into 1-3 minute highlights to optimize for watch time and algorithm success.
  • "My dad is the one that edits..." (05:12)

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The Future: Governing & Professionalizing 1v1

Timestamps: 02:11–03:44, 17:31–19:18

• MK dreams of evolving 1v1 basketball into a global league, similar to how FIBA 3x3 was institutionalized.
  • “Why the fuck isn’t one on one not [in the Olympics]?” (03:14)
• He openly shares his format, encouraging others worldwide (e.g., K Showtime) to replicate and grow the space, while also looking to be “the governing body” for 1v1.
  • "My goal is to basically be that like governing body of one on one… anyone can just flourish in that market." (02:24)
• Custom rules make the format uniquely exciting: up to 5 points, special bonuses for dunks and ankle breakers.
  • “One on one, up to five, dunks are worth two. Ankle breakers, layup worth two, ankle breaker, dunk worth three. It’s the most exciting form of basketball you’ll ever watch.” (18:46)
• Talks are underway with "massive partners" to form an official league.
  • “We’re working on it right now with some massive partners. I can’t speak on those partners…” (02:59)

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On NBA & Mainstream Basketball: Boredom, Ego, and Challenge

Timestamps: 03:44–07:59

• MK finds the NBA’s 5v5 “boring,” citing that full games lack entertainment outside of drama or beef.
  • “I swear to God… I fall asleep [courtside at NBA games]… it’s boring. Fourth quarter, I’m lit, but you know.” (04:13)
• The shorter format of 1v1 keeps attention locked: “With the ones… it’s like a three minute max. Three minute, but one to three minute game. Everyone’s just tapped in.” (04:41)
• MK accuses NBA pros of avoiding 1v1 challenges with him, calling out Isaiah Thomas specifically for not playing, even after being offered MK’s own shoes.
  • "I've played bare feet in Costa Rica before. You don't need shoes. I'll give you my shoes. And he still didn't play." (08:12)
• He brands refusing to play as “corny” and ego-driven:
  • "It doesn't become basketball. When you become a prima donna, ... that's whack for sure. Play for fun." (08:37)

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Inclusivity, Win Rate, and Format

Timestamps: 06:33–14:19

• MK boasts a self-reported 98% win rate, up from 96% last year.
  • “Last year was 96. Right now it’s 98.” (06:36)
• Emphasizes his inclusivity – he plays against anyone: women, children, grandpas, amateurs—"it’s inclusive, so that’s what I do love."
• He’s honest about his women matchups: “My win rate with girls right now is like 70." (12:08)
• "In ones to five, anyone has a chance,” making every game engaging and full of upsets or surprises (12:21).
• Most losses occur due to fatigue in later games: “The losses come from the last game. ... That’s when I’ll lose 100% of the time." (13:14)

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International Growth & Dangerous Situations

Timestamps: 11:12–17:29, 25:58–27:48, 41:52–45:16

• MK has played and filmed worldwide: Brazil, Turkey, Abu Dhabi, Serbia, Greece, Italy.
• Wildest location was the favelas of Brazil—AK-47s on the sidelines, danger evident.
  • "I was walking through an alleyway, I felt an AK47 tip just touch my calf..." (42:22)
• “In Sao Paulo… the guy in the back was cussing me out in Portuguese… this guy comes up… ‘don’t talk to those guys behind the fence because they're real.’” (43:53)
• International events can draw thousands—sometimes too many for a game even to happen:
  • "With the professor. 10,000 people showed up. We ordered like 40 police… We couldn’t even play." (26:45)
• MK prides himself on engaging with local cultures, learning languages, and wanting to highlight undiscovered talent, especially in places like Africa.
  • “I really tap into the culture. I learn languages, I eat their food, I dress like them, I go visit the monuments. And I think, like, that's what's special…” (25:20)

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The “Villain” Role, Fame, and Persona

Timestamps: 06:04–07:47, 23:00–24:52, 28:18–28:28

• MK has leaned into an unapologetic, “nonchalant” villain persona:
  • "I'm just, I'm just me. Before I was like really calculated… now I just don't care.” (06:07)
• Despite haters branding him as an “asshole,” he’s earnest about being approachable and building real relationships with fans, even taking individual time for photos across the globe.
  • “People see the crazy content, but I like to take pictures with everybody. I like to have, like, at least a 30-second conversation with each person.” (28:02)
  • "The number one question I get asked about you... Is he actually an asshole? …I always tell people you’re one of the nicest guys I’ve met." (28:22)

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Social & Business Impact

Timestamps: 02:11–19:07, 33:11–34:37, 39:43–47:27

• Other creators, especially globally, are now copying MK’s format—an effect he encourages.
  • "Guys in London are doing it, guys in Toronto are doing it everywhere around the world. I encourage that." (02:24)
• Brands, pro teams, and major media companies have reached out for partnerships, contracts, and even show/podcast ideas.
  • "I've had leagues, very high league, like high level leagues, reach out to me and be like, choose a team you want to play for. You have a contract." (18:14)
• He’s interested in further expansion into women’s leagues, music (freestyling and studio collaborations), fashion, and TV.
  • “A girls league would be insane with my style of one on one.” (22:08)
  • “I've gotten really into, like, designing clothes. I've gotten into writing my book, writing some show scripts...Modeling...the one on one basketball league governance show is a huge thing for me.” (39:43)

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Memorable Quotes & Entertaining Moments

MK on NBA Star Avoidance:

"I've played bare feet in Costa Rica before. You don't need shoes. I'll give you my shoes. And he still didn't play." (08:12)

On Losses & Perception:

"There's not any losses to post, Sean. Like, I'm serious...I've played how many...like 500 to a thousand games this year?" (13:54)

On Building 1v1 as a Sport:

"My goal is to basically be that governing body of one on one…anyone can just flourish in that market. It's just, it's a 1v1 market. It's owned by everybody. But like the idea, the concept that IP is mine." (02:24)

On Playing in Dangerous Areas:

"I was walking through an alleyway, I felt an AK47 tip just touch my calf...That’s pretty scary. It’s like guys that are like £300, monsters on motorcycles with government grade guns. Pretty scary." (42:22)

On Global Recognition:

"Every country I go to, it’s no different…Airport security. I was on a plane the other day and the guy...messaged me like, it was a pleasure having you on board. How did I fly?" (24:13)

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Additional Highlights

• Competitive Stakes: MK has wagered for not just money but wild prizes—cars, the infamous “N-pass,” etc. (40:03)
  • "I actually have the end pass. Grants any holder permission to say the N word. It's official documentation." (40:31)
• Content Creation Tips: The importance of “angles,” storytelling, condensing games for maximal impact and virality.
• Fan Engagement: MK’s stories about crowd management, from LA Fitness surprise pull-ups to being filmed even when not on camera. (34:24)
• Upcoming Projects: Writing a book ("Open When Ready"), designing clothing, developing a TV show, expanding internationally and into music. (45:19–47:32)
• On Streaming: Though open to it, MK says, “Streaming is tough. It’s a difficult life…If I’m going to stream, it needs to be a huge event. Like one on one. Crazy. Like a UFC card, but for ones.” (38:29)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & How MK "Blew Up": 00:41–02:11
• NBA & Why 1v1 is Better: 03:44–07:59
• Inclusivity, Win Rate, and Playing with Anyone: 06:33–14:19
• International Stories/Danger: 25:58–27:48, 41:52–45:16
• On “Villain” Persona & Fame: 06:04–07:47; 23:00–24:52; 28:18–28:28
• Building a 1v1 League: 17:31–19:18; 22:08–22:26
• Business & Creative Expansion: 39:43–47:27

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a lively, wide-ranging conversation that captures MK’s energy and iconoclasm. It offers a fascinating look at how a single creator can shift the basketball content paradigm, bridging the gap between streetball authenticity and mainstream sports while building global recognition, fan engagement, and conscious brand expansion. If you’re interested in entrepreneurship, viral content creation, or the future of sports and entertainment, this is a must-listen.

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Transcript

[A]

A lot of those NBA guys, a lot of those pro guys, they need to like hop on the court. They're scared. There's some guys that like have just coincidentally been at a run when I'm playing and I'm like, let's run the ones. And they're too scared. Isaiah Thomas isn't in the NBA anymore, is he?

[B]

No, he's not.

[A]

So why didn't he play? But I'll play Wemby. I'll play like Luka. I'll play. I'll play anybody. I stayed in the favela. I was living in a pacified favela since the police were there. I go into the alleyway to my crib and there's guns. I got to pass by guys with guns. I was walking through an alleyway. I felt an AK47 tip touch my out.

[B]

I see people hating that. You don't post the losses too in the comments.

[A]

There's not. There's not any losses to post. Sh.

[B]

All right, guys, got MK back on the show. It's been like almost two years, right?

[A]

Yeah. This is like tradition now. Every time I'm in Vegas, we.

[B]

I try to get you. Every time you're here, man.

[A]

Take him in for a chat.

[B]

And you've been blowing up. My God.

[A]

I've been going crazy a little bit since our last episode. Like, yeah, actually not a little bit like crazy craziest blow up.

[B]

You just switched to one on ones, I think when you came on the

[A]

first time and gone like, bro, like 2 billion views a month.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

On across all platforms, traveling the world, lots of insane collabs. So I'm happy. Like, that's why I wanted to like just touch base with you because our conversations are always really good. It doesn't feel like a pod. It just goes on forever.

[B]

That's what I try to do, man. But two bills nuts. That's what clavicular is getting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you're pretty much top dog climbing Clav.

[A]

We got to go. I was just saying this. We just did impulsive. And I was saying, wouldn't it be the sickest idea if Clav. Because he just opened his nightclub, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know how he said he likes to like stand above and watch the girls? Imagine like gladiator setting. He's like standing above. He opens up a space. And I'm just playing ones in his club. That'd be pretty g. Yeah. Like gladiator type.

[B]

I think clubs are going to have to start doing something new cuz people aren't drinking like they used to.

[A]

No, it's boring. You know, it's a little bit boring. It's the same thing. Like, I've been going around the world, obviously, and part of it is like partying, like checking out the clubs, checking out the night scene. And it, it's like, yeah, I like it. It's the same thing every time. You got to spice it up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's something that we've done is like. Well, actually, we've actually done that idea. Play ones in the club. Everyone loved it.

[B]

Really.

[A]

Just like adding new twists on everything is important. I think that's dope. Yeah.

[B]

I'm sure people are trying to copy your format now, right?

[A]

I encourage it. You do A lot of people like K Showtime. I basically like gave him the formula. I told him, I met with him. I was like, yo, like, run up the ones, go up to five.

[B]

You don't care.

[A]

No, I told them, bro, I said, go up to 5. Go to Asia or something like that. Play as many games as you can. Upload once a day. Do exactly what I'm doing. You're gonna blow up. Guess what happened? I went from like 200k to like 450k on IG in like a few months. Guys in London are doing it, guys in Toronto are doing it everywhere around the world. I encourage that. My goal is to basically be that like governing body of one on one to where it's like, you know, anyone can just flourish in that market. It's just, it's a 1v1 market. It's owned by. By everybody. But like the idea, the concept that IP is. Is mine.

[B]

Yeah. And you want to centralize it eventually

[A]

into one league, govern it, centralize it, all of it. And it will be a league where we're working on it right now with some massive partners. I can't speak on those partners right now, but within the next, I'd say year or less, we're going to have something like that kind of like fee. But we're working towards like a FIBA level.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know how they did three on three and now it's in the Olympics. Why the fuck isn't one on one not.

[B]

Dude, that'd be fire.

[A]

And we proved it now. Like, I've proved it and now it's like we're developing an ecosystem that's proving it as well.

[B]

Bro, if you get one on one in the Olympics, that's your.

[A]

It will.

[B]

You're a goat at that. No, if. That's incredible. Yeah, three on three is fun to watch, but Something with ones. People just love ones.

[A]

No, I'm keeping a buck. 3v3. I like it. It's cool. 5v5 right now. It's boring. One on one is exactly where it's at. People just don't know how to like, make it big.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I do. And that's exactly what I'm passing on to the world.

[B]

I feel nice. You really think NBA is boring right now though? Like 5 on 5 format?

[A]

The only, like, exciting thing in 5v5 is when there's like beef or like tea time. Like when someone gets a fine or when there's like, you know, arguing or.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or highlights. Like people are really going on to watch the highlights. I can't watch a full game. I've met, I've been to a lot of games this year. Courtside Swedes. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, I swear to God, I have picture proof. I fall asleep.

[B]

No way.

[A]

No. Like, I don't wear these glasses.

[B]

These.

[A]

I wear the other shade. The metal Oakley glasses are like blacked out. And I'm just like this.

[B]

I just fall asleep.

[A]

I swear to God.

[B]

That's wild.

[A]

It's boring. Fourth quarter, I'm lit, but you know. Yeah, my wait.

[B]

I mean, you're grinding though. You're traveling. A new. A new city every week, I feel like.

[A]

But still, it doesn't negate to the fact that it's boring.

[B]

I don't watch full games anymore. I watch only highlights and even highlights to x speed on YouTube.

[A]

Really? Yeah. So you have a short attention span.

[B]

Very short.

[A]

But like with the ones. And you can be honest with my ones. For instance, like, will you watch the entire clip? Yeah, that's the thing. That's the difference. It's like a three minute max. Three minute, but one to three minute game. Everyone's just tapped in. That's the biggest compliment I get on the streets is like, yo, mk, you're changing the game. I actually watch your videos from start to finish. And obviously that's why the platforms are pushing it. But it's also like, it feels really good because it's like. That means it's entertaining as fuck. 101 shit's happening.

[B]

Well, the algorithms are based on watch time, so you're clearly dominating that.

[A]

And we have to cut down those videos. So my dad is the one that edits and he'll go like, it'll be like a 40 minute game sometimes or 20 minute game, 10 minute game. And he has to condense it to one to three minutes. Can you imagine and that's what we're doing now with the long form. We're putting out a lot of like my entire games and people are loving that too, which is interesting.

[B]

Wow. So he's got a good eye to like know what to cut out and keep.

[A]

Absolutely. You have to. But what I'm saying is even in the long form videos, when it includes the entire game, there's so much happening every second from the crowd, from a father in the bag, from security or whoever, every moment is lit. In the ones there's no dull moment.

[B]

I notice you keep it different every video.

[A]

Honestly, it is different every video. It's a different character, it's a different environment. Maybe I didn't sleep that day. Maybe I'm like feeling great. And that's the beauty of it. Every video is different. It's reality TV at its. its realest.

[B]

Yeah. Me, I feel like you've also embraced that kind of villain role too.

[A]

I've. I play. I just feed off the energy, whatever energy is given. But I've noticed like to the, to your point about the villain role, I'm just like, I just don't give a fuck anymore. I'm just, I'm just me. Before I was like really calculated. Like, how is this going to work? Like, how is this going to happen now? I just don't care. I'm going there to have fun. And when I have fun, lots of shit is talked. I'm. I'm playing how I want to play. I don't care. And that's what people love most. Yeah, that nonchalant shit.

[B]

And it's working, bro. 98 win percent.

[A]

That's F. Yeah, let's go. Nice. It's not 96. Last year was 96. Right now it's 98.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

And now that I'm injured a little bit. Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm going to keep the 98 for a while.

[B]

We'll dive into that. But I mean, you're playing some decent people too.

[A]

I'm playing anybody. And that's like the thing that I love most people would think I hate it is when people are like, oh, you don't play comp? You don't play comp. I play against everybody. I play against females, I play against young prospects, I play against pros, I'll play against uncles, dads, grandpas, I don't give a cuz people love watching it. It's. It's an amazing, amazing thing when a grandpa can get buckets on me. Like that's awesome. That show that's bringing out real basketball, everybody's welcome. It's inclusive, so that's what I do love. But I also say that a lot of those NBA guys, a lot of those pro guys, like, they need to fucking, like, hop on the court. They're scared.

[B]

Have any of them played you yet?

[A]

Nah, they're scared.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I played some pro guys, like, in different leagues.

[B]

International, right?

[A]

Yeah, international, for sure. They love it. That's why I love them. But, like, when it comes to, like, leaguers, and I have nothing wrong with the NBA, I love those guys. A lot of guys are my friends in the NBA, but it's like, in the off season. Let's run it.

[B]

Yeah. Summer league. Let's set some up for you.

[A]

You feel me? Let's do it in Vegas. Absolutely.

[B]

If you're back.

[A]

I know a lot of my boys that are in the nb. They would play. That's why I won't, like, ever mention them or call them out. But there's some guys that like, have just coincidentally been at a run when I'm playing, and I'm like, let's run the ones.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're. They're too scared.

[B]

I wonder if it's like, they don't want to get injured or risk it.

[A]

Isaiah Thomas isn't in the NBA anymore, is he?

[B]

No, he's not.

[A]

So why didn't he play?

[B]

I saw that and he commented back.

[A]

Oh, he commented a lot. He was mad as.

[B]

Yeah, he said you were being fake.

[A]

And I saw I'm being real, brother. I walked in. I. I'm sorry. I. I was there playing. He walked in. He was like, I didn't come for you. I didn't come to watch watch you play. Okay. But regardless, you were still at the court. You saw a massive crowd that I pulled. Everyone begged you to play. I said, let's play. He's like, I don't have my shoes, bro. I've played bare feet in Costa Rica before. You don't need shoes. I'll give you my shoes. And he still didn't play.

[B]

That's wild.

[A]

Corny. And he's like, oh, that's not for the culture. You just want to get views on your YouTube or whatever. It's like, bro, I'm already getting the views. I don't give a about you. Like, we can turn all the cameras off for the culture, you idiot. Everyone's going to be filming anyways. Like, you know, I mean, like, how dumb are you? It's for the culture. You're not even the league anymore. Play the game. Have fun with it. Let's enjoy one on one together. That's what basketball is. And people are like, that's the ego part. It doesn't become basketball. When you become a prima donna, you're like, nah, I don't need to play. I don't need to play. That's whack for sure. Play for fun.

[B]

Love the cops.

[A]

What happened? What happened to the love of the game? Yeah, everyone's like, oh, loving basketball. I love basketball. What happened to that?

[B]

Yeah, people are pretty scared. They're walking on eggshells. NBA needs more villains.

[A]

I don't care about losing. These guys care about losing. There's. There's no raw. There's no problem with losing. Yeah, drop that ego.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, you're still winning a lot. 98 win rate.

[A]

I'm winning a lot. And I. And I'd love to lose. That's why I'm challenging these guys. It's like, I don't care to lose, so come and play me. Isaiah is like the best one I can think of because I do respect his game. He's a short little pit bull. I'd love to challenge myself against that. But even like, I'll play Wemby. I'll play like Luca. I'll play. I'll play anybody. It doesn't matter because I want to lose. Like, 98% win rate is not healthy. Yeah, that's not good.

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[B]

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[A]

I was, yeah.

[B]

Did you challenge him or.

[A]

I did. He's like literally not allowed to run. So when he was doing his event, he was like speed walking. Because it's like a rule. Sign a contract, of course. But you know, when the offseason happens, I'm not going to be like pushing them and like that. Like, let's just play a normal game. Let's see how it goes.

[B]

Dude, honestly, with him, I wouldn't be surprised if the offseason was off limits too.

[A]

I don't mind. I understand that. Actually, I understand that. But when a guy like Isaiah Thomas is crying in the comments. Yeah, it's just corny, bro. Like, why are you running the comments? Just play. I feel that I made pip squeak.

[B]

You played some woman. Have you ever lost to a. To a girl?

[A]

Many times. Really many times. Is it because I'm taking it easy on them? Maybe. But like, not even like, they're hitting. If you watch the games against creators, they're hitting ridiculous shots. Against college girls. Like, they're fast, they're hard to keep up with. Unorthodox style of play. I'm not used to guarding girls, so I'd say my win rate with girls right now is like 70.

[B]

So it's lower than guys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What the heck.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe it's because I'm underestimating them, but I do try my hardest. I play defense. I'll rough them up. And yeah, because it's like, I want to make it equal, you know, that's what it is. And they're solid.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I don't discriminate.

[B]

I also feel like in ones to five, anyone has a chance. Right.

[A]

That's why I always tell everybody that's like, that's what the beauty of it is, actually. When you go up to 11. It's very hard to like beat an NBA guy.

[B]

Becomes a cardio contest.

[A]

That's what it is. When I played in T max league.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You remember that? It was up to nine and it was running like so like you score or sorry, you miss. You can get the rebound and score and then you check like live with us. It's like one shot, only up to five. If I played Drake, I. I just met with him the other day and I was joking. I was like, yo, like, if we play, you have a chance to win because if you just hit two shots, you're already.

[B]

He's got a jumper too.

[A]

Exactly. And I don't really like playing defense, so rappers, women, pro players, like, that's why I play like grandpas. Like, you all have a chance to play. Why not just. Just do it. Up to five, anybody can win.

[B]

I don't blame you for not playing D because you're playing 10 games straight. You're probably gassed.

[A]

Gassed. That's the coolest stat that I was telling someone at dinner yesterday. The 98 win rate is like, it's amazing. But when you, when you factor in my losses, the losses come from the last game. So it's like the 8th to 10th game. That's when I'll lose 100% of the time. I don't think. Tanner, have I ever lost like before? Maybe like one time.

[B]

Wow, that's insane.

[A]

Very rare. It's always like the last game and it will be like the best player who plays me then.

[B]

So he's.

[A]

That's not an excuse. I lost. I'll take that loss. I love losing. Cuz it brings more views. It's. It's amazing. I'm happy for the guy. I get to put him on the platform. But it doesn't happen often.

[B]

I see people hating that. You don't post the losses too in the comments? Not.

[A]

There's not any losses to post, Sean. Like, I'm serious. Like I have to post. Like we play. I've played how many. What? What is it today? It's April. April something. April. We've played how many games? Would you say like 500 to a thousand games this year? Yeah, bro.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Like, I don't lose. So if I have to post 500 games and I've lost three of them, that might, that might even not get posted this year.

[B]

That makes sense. Yeah.

[A]

You do. So many pods. So you understand. Yeah. Not drop for a bit.

[B]

I get it. Yeah. I was gonna ask. With your injury, you're probably chilling because you got a backlog of content, right?

[A]

Tons. We have, like, long form that would last us two years. I'm still uploading from my last Brazil trip, which is when, like, we linked up, maybe. It was crazy.

[B]

I saw your last Vegas run. You posted one of those recently.

[A]

Yeah, bro, that was time ago. And then, like, when it comes to, like, the reels of me playing, maybe, like, I'd say, like, a year's worth of content.

[B]

I mean, it's smart you did that, because some guys get injured and then they're screwed, you know?

[A]

Yeah, it's a. It's a safeguard. It's also just for the love of the game. Like, when I go on the court, even if there's no cameras, I want to play as many ones as I possibly can.

[B]

Yeah. Walk me through the injury, man. I haven't seen you go public with

[A]

what I haven't been injured in eight years.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Which is amazing. So thank God for my body. But I'd say, like, with this injury, I wasn't even mad. If it was, like, a sprained ankle or, like, a broken leg, I'd be pissed. Well, this one, I was playing defense with my left hand up, and the ball hit against my arm as I was, like, hitting it down. And the strong guy I was playing against, when I went to go down, he went up, and then it just twisted like this, and it just. I didn't even hear a pop. I just knew it was like, damn. And then all of a sudden, it's just like, my arm got stuck. I thought it was a cramp, maybe. I was like, guys, my shoulder's dislocated. They're like, really? I'm like, yeah, maybe. Let me see if it's a cramp. I was like, no, that's dislocated. And I was like, let's go to the hospital. Pop it back in.

[B]

Geez. So how long you out for?

[A]

It depends. I have, like, tons of really good doctors worldwide, and it's been. It's varied. It's been like one month, three months. I'm gonna sit somewhere in between, maybe a little bit less. I'd say like a month and a half. Yeah. So it's going quick, bro. There's so much fun stuff that I do. There's so much traveling that I do that doesn't even feel like I'm injured, to be honest.

[B]

You didn't have to cancel anything crazy.

[A]

No. So, like, we had a whole world tour lined up. We had. Let's say we had Greece, we had Croatia, We Had Macedonia, Cyprus.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Italy, Paris, people hoop out there, Africa. And a lot of them will still be played because I will heal very quickly. As I'm seeing right now. Did the mri, there's not too much damage at all. But instead of playing now, this is the beauty of one on one that I want to just highlight. I did an event the other day in San Antonio and like a bunch of people played and I was just emceeing. And with that one's format, the views went crazy. It's like at least 5 million views across all platforms from a game I wasn't even playing in because people love the one so much. So what we're going to do is when we go on these world tours, the main, the focal point is highlighting the best players around the world. I'll put them against each other. Let's. Let's see if someone can do what I do. Let's see if someone can win five games in a row. Let's find the next one v one king and let's breed them to become, you know, one's all stars. And it's to my point, I think I said before on the last pod, some of these guys that are playing ones in my league, with my format, they're getting pro contracts to go play like fives or threes.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

In other countries, that's beautiful.

[B]

That's not.

[A]

When a scout's watching a guy play one on one, they see everything. They see body language. They see like, how they can trash talk. They can see how they defend in an open area with no help defense, how they can score. So I'd say ones is brilliant. It's a brilliant idea for scouts to like watch and scout for their team professionally. College, high school, whatever you want. And that's what we're doing. That's the governance of it all. Nice.

[B]

I'm sure you got some offers too. Or any of those.

[A]

I've gotten tons of offers. I've had. I. I always, like, I'm just gonna repeat myself, you know, everyone's seen the last pod. But let's just say this on the record. Like, I've had leagues, very high league, like high level leagues, reach out to me and be like, choose a team you want to play for. You have a contract.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

On God.

[B]

That's nuts, bro.

[A]

And I'm just like, I don't want to play. Really. I don't want to.

[B]

Even if there was a certain dollar figure, you wouldn't take it.

[A]

Nah. I've had media Companies reach out to me to say we want to document your whole story. Playing in it, going from ones into the league and then on top of that, the contract. So lots of money involved, a great experience. Our last talk, I wanted to go pro, but I just don't want to right now. Yeah, not just pro, even the NBA. I don't know if I'd do it.

[B]

You changed your whole perspective.

[A]

I just love ones so entirely. It's my sport. I want to say I created it. I didn't like, you know, I created this style of ones. One on one, up to five dunks are worth two. Ankle breakers, layup worth two, ankle breaker, dunk worth three. It's the most exciting form of basketball you'll ever watch. And the numbers don't lie. We're doing numbers that are bigger than the NBA.

[B]

That's insane. I didn't know those. I didn't know there was a three pointer. I knew there was the two with the dunk.

[A]

Three pointer is dunk. Ankle breaker and dunk. It's like the home run of baseball, but for about one on one basketball.

[B]

Yeah, I got to see some of those highlights.

[A]

Yeah, I've done it like maybe like 10 times.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, it's fire, but it's very hard to do. Right. So that's why you get rewarded.

[B]

Yeah. Would you ever add like a, a four point shot or something like that?

[A]

No, only three because the games are up to five.

[B]

True. Yeah, four would be.

[A]

If we were to like really institutionalize it, like Olympics. Maybe I'd go to seven just to keep the games a little bit longer. But five to seven is a sweet spot. You don't want to go. No one wants to watch a fucking game up to 11. Nobody wants to watch a game up to 30. There's been a lot of like people do that. Oh yeah. Like the Michael Beasley. Lance Stevenson was up to 30. It's like no one's watching that. Like, you know, and they are watching it. But like, let's be real, you're bored. Your turns into it turns, they're gassed, they're getting lower quality buckets. And people watching are focused on eating their popcorn and talking to their side ting while they're watching the game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Feel me. Like with, with ones up to five and seven, you're locked in. You're watching the entire way through. And I've had the craziest audience of people. I've had girls that hate basketball. I've had old men come up to me in the streets saying they Hate basketball, but they watch this, so that's the point. Like, no one wants to watch a game that long.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah, it's predominantly males. Yeah. At least 80.

[B]

Same with me. Yeah, Yeah. I feel like they just love stuff like this, but that's cool. You got some females watching too. 20.

[A]

That's what I love. I love it. It's amazing. And like we were in Butt nor in California coming up here, and this girl recognized me. She's like a high school girl. She's like, oh my God, is that mk? Like, when I play soccer, I'm talking the same way you are. And I'm like, holy. Like, that's dope, that's fire. And I want to do like girls ones as well. There's no discriminating, like, even if it's girls versus guys. But a girls league would be insane with my style of one on one.

[B]

Yeah, there's no really girl one on one player right now, right?

[A]

No. Can you imagine just putting up a bag for Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, I'll go nuts. That go stupid. I mean, I got to educate myself more on women's basketball, but I think that's the next step is like playing these women and seeing like, how they can compete against me, vet them and then make that league For. For open. For women as well.

[B]

Yeah. That'd be nuts if you could find a female mk.

[A]

Oh, yeah. There's definitely some out there. I've played some, like, shy. She's like. She's a former Duke player, and she plays, like, overseas. She's from Toronto. She was talking mad to me when I was playing. I'm like, yo, like, am I playing a dude right now? Like, she's, like, screaming at me and, like, making me feel like, yeah, I even have a good friend. She's right here. She doesn't even play basketball, and she was playing my boy the other day and talking mad. I'm like, yo, that's me. Like, she's watching the videos. Like, she's talking mad. But winning. Yeah. It's crazy. Bouncing off the guy's head and shit. I love it.

[B]

I think every sport needs it, man.

[A]

Yeah, they do. It's exciting. Yeah.

[B]

Like, some sports are so, like, polite. The athletes are friends with each other, and it's just like, dude, I don't want to watch this.

[A]

There's the biggest appetite for alternative sports right now.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Period.

[B]

Yeah, I think you caught. Great timing, man. How's it been navigating the fame? Because you've been blowing up since our first episode.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

I'm sure it's been up and down.

[A]

I had my good. So the guy I'm working on my TV show with for one on ones, Yaz, insane producer. He's done a ton of stuff. He's like. I told him a story because I went to go to this club.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The biggest party school in Canada, and it's called Delilah. And I went. I was partying, and I had to go to the bathroom, and I was like, yo, when I went down to the bathroom, 50 people all came to the bathroom just to, like, see me and take pictures with me. And, like, he's like, yo, that's crazy, because Eminem told me the exact same thing when I met with him. He's like, when did you feel like the fame actually hit? It's the same story when people follow you to the bathroom. It's another level that's different. And I. I love meeting new people. That's why I'm happy about it. And I always try to learn about other people when I. When I see them. But in terms of the fame, like, it's been, like, huge. Every country I go to, it's no different.

[B]

You're worldwide, which is. That's true fame to me, because some people are famous in the Us, you know, they can go.

[A]

They don't know that. No one knows you in other places.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

But everywhere I go. Airport security. I was on a plane the other day and the guy, he didn't talk to me on the plane, but he messaged me like, it was a pleasure having you on board. How did I fly?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It's crazy. Yeah. Pilot, police, like firefighters, government, lawyers, politicians, anybody you can imagine. Yeah, yeah. That's all levels, all walks of life.

[B]

Yeah. It's like you're like the Ishowspeed of basketball. I feel like.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Because he could go to any country.

[A]

I want to go with ishowspeed to Africa because he absolutely killed Africa and he had so much fun. And that's another plan we have set up potentially in August, September, like later in this. Later on this year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To go to like a Zimbabwe or like a Kenya or like, I don't know, South Africa.

[B]

Yeah. He showed up last night. Did you see his body slam last night?

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And I don't. He doesn't have to play. I feel like him just like, oh, he's showing me, showing me the, the universe of, of Africa. Just like enjoy Africa with him, but play ones and bring those crowds together. It would go dumb, dude.

[B]

That'd be the most viral collab of the year. I feel like, I think we're both getting crazy views. Have you played in Africa yet?

[A]

No. That's why I want to go so bad. And I'm ready to go. We've had some talks with them and I think that'll be like, life changing for me, like, as an experience, because I really want to, like, you know that everywhere I go. The reason why the fame has gotten so high, because I really tap into the culture. I learn languages, I eat their food, I dress like them, I go visit the monuments. And I think, like, that's what's special about Africa. It's uncharted territory for me. I'll learn so much. And I think like, they don't know about one on one basketball and they'll fucking love it. Like, I want to play, like, I want to play in the best courts. I want to play in the dirt, bare feet, like, you know, I want to do all walks. I want to play against anybody and everybody.

[B]

Dude, there's some Hoopers out there.

[A]

I know. There's fucking eight foot tall people.

[B]

Yeah. They had a team in the Olympics last time. Sudan or something. Yeah, Sudan.

[A]

Yeah. Against usa. They went stupid.

[B]

They almost beat them yeah.

[A]

And that's what, like, there's so much untapped talent all around the world. It's very difficult for them to like reach that level of fives basketball or even threes ones. Is this next. This next category that I've opened up for anybody to shine worldwide and I'm going to find them myself. Not a lot of people do it. Yeah.

[B]

You've played all over Abu Dhabi. Spain, Italy, Serbia, Brazil and the favelas.

[A]

It's crazy all the time. And those like the ones you name in Turkey as well, Greece, like, they're all so special in their own likes, but I love all of them and I think like, Abu Dhabi is a crazy one. We didn't even get to play there.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, you went with the professor?

[A]

With the professor. 10,000 people showed up. We ordered like 40 police. We had like 10 security assigned to us. People were so excited, we couldn't even play.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

Imagine we couldn't even play one on one. And that was the biggest compliment. So I'm gonna head back there when everything settles down and, and play for sure.

[B]

How did it blow up like that? You just made one post and made

[A]

one post a day before? No. On top of this helicopter pad, like hotel, me and professor like, yo, pull up. We're gonna run twos and then Professor's gonna coach me in the ones. You know, legend passing the torch.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was just iconic. And then too many people. Dude, that's insane. We had our little green room, little hut, little building. There's like thousands of people just outside waiting for us to come. We went out and it was just too packed.

[B]

Who called it off? The government step in or something?

[A]

The government ordered like 40 more police and then we still couldn't get it done. It's just difficult to move everybody out of the way. Wow. But we've prepared for next time for all the countries. Now we have like a clear system to like move everybody out of the way so we can play and everyone can watch and be comfortable.

[B]

And yeah, you got to get in and out.

[A]

Right. That's the problem. Because you know me, I'm a good guy. Like, everyone sees the, everyone sees the crazy content, but I like to take pictures with everybody. I like to have like at least a 30 second conversation with. With each person.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

When I'm lining up and there's like a thousand people, we're just in London, it was raining and I waited for an hour and a half to take pictures with every single person that came because that's special to. I want to make an impact. I want to, like, you know, I want to be a good guy, and I am a good guy. But it's difficult now. It's like, it's very in and out.

[B]

I wish people saw that side of you. You know the number one question I get asked about you?

[A]

Tell me, is he actually an asshole?

[B]

Yeah. What do you mean, asshole?

[A]

You tell them.

[B]

Yeah, I always tell people you're one of the nicest guys I've met.

[A]

Oh, thank you. Yeah, I cry. I wore the clear shades. I'm a cry no.

[B]

But I get asked every time I bring you up. It's crazy.

[A]

So you guys just hit number one on the business in business.

[B]

Number nine overall. Number four on Spotify.

[A]

Congrats. You're like one of the most talented guys I know. But I want to ask you, since we're on the number one business podcast, how smart do I look right now? These shades, dude.

[B]

You didn't have these last time.

[A]

No. Like, I look, like, intelligent, Like, I

[B]

don't look like for you.

[A]

I look like Matthew. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, we were looking at you on camera and I barely recognized you.

[A]

The books in the back.

[B]

Look at you, man.

[A]

I'm sophisticated, brother. So talk to me. Respectfully.

[B]

My bad, dude.

[A]

Sit up straight when you talk to me.

[B]

I need to work on that.

[A]

Oh, congrats on your marriage as well.

[B]

Thanks, man.

[A]

I'm hype. That's really awesome.

[B]

We're eight years in, you know.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Yeah, you're next.

[A]

No, I don't know, maybe right now I might. I might like, you know, do like, marry a doctor or something. Look how I look. I might become Dr. Matthew myself.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. With your lifestyle, it'd be tough, I think.

[A]

Being a doctor.

[B]

No, being married.

[A]

Oh, being married.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

Well, you're traveling a lot. You know, you're in social media.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It'd be tough for the normal girl, I think, to.

[A]

Very difficult to find love these days. I think so at itself, but with me alone, yeah, it's very difficult. The challenges with women are difficult.

[B]

Yeah. Because you got the. The social media following is one thing, but also the money and just like,

[A]

you're like so many. Like. Yeah, there's so many.

[B]

You got a lot going against you.

[A]

Absolutely. We'll find it. We'll figure you advice. I got. I got the one of the best guys to give me advice.

[B]

So for me, I met her when

[A]

I was broke fire.

[B]

So it's a different.

[A]

So I just got to tell them I'm broke.

[B]

Yeah, but that doesn't work. It doesn't work is in your salary public. Is it revenue?

[A]

I just got to tell them I'm a different name. I'll be like, yo, my name is. I'll use my middle name. My name is Thomas. I'll wear these glasses and I'll just dress like this. I don't know, something maybe even less, like, less saucy. And I'll be like, yeah, I don't do much. Yeah, work for the government at my work.

[B]

But your face is just. You get so many views. They would know you, bro. I doubt a girl's meeting you. And they're like, who is that? Yeah, you know, you're right.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

The downside of being on social media, I kind of have it good because, like, I'm not. I don't consider myself famous, but, like, when people come up to me, it's really respectful. They're like a fan of the show, you know?

[A]

You are.

[B]

I don't get, like, fanboy or anything.

[A]

You huge. Yeah, of course you do, right? I bet you everyone's always like, yo, I want to be on your pod.

[B]

Well, that.

[A]

That's huge. Probably for sure. Yeah. What do you say?

[B]

I say, I'll check out your shit.

[A]

Everyone asked me, I want to play one on one against you.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

I'm just like. I get. I'm like, yo, don't like, it's just a bad idea.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, it's going to ruin you. And then we play and they're just like, fuck, that sucked. Like, yeah, they had fun, but it's

[B]

just like, damn, I set up a couple for you, and that's pretty much how it went.

[A]

Yeah. I did lose one game in Vegas against that little Phil Filipino kid.

[B]

I saw that. But you, you seem gassed.

[A]

No, bro, that was. That's one of the ones. That's. That was one of the ones, right?

[B]

It was the first game, but you underestimated him.

[A]

Yeah, he's like, five, two. Five, two.

[B]

I was reading the comments. People were like, you weren't trying?

[A]

But I don't know, I was like, I was. I wasn't taking him serious, but I was trying. So when you underestimate someone, there's a very high chance you lose.

[B]

Dude, those Filipinos, I can't guard Filipinos.

[A]

That's why I'm scared to go there, bro. Cuz, like, they're fast as they're strong. This kid's like, five. One looks like malnourished. Almost looks like he's like, not eating and he's strong as shit. And like, nothing I was doing was working against him. Couldn't shoot. This guy was nasty. Yeah.

[B]

There's a Filipino league out here. You can't be over six feet to play in it. And those guys are just different.

[A]

Like, what if I just, like, have a hunchback that day? You think I could play?

[B]

You're 6 2, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe you could lie about it.

[A]

I'm gonna just wear, like, super flats. I'm gonna wear these amiries super flats. Like this much. I might want to do the hunchback.

[B]

I doubt they're actually measuring.

[A]

No, but that's crazy. They actually have a rule.

[B]

Yeah, you can't be. I wanted to play in it and. No, they wouldn't.

[A]

You're Filipino.

[B]

I'm. I'm Chinese, but I could probably say I'm, like part Filipino.

[A]

And you could. It would work.

[B]

I think it'd work. There's also a mini hoop league. Have you ever done that? Like the eight.

[A]

That would go crazy. I think, like, one of the rules I might implement, maybe we're in talks, is like making the rims lower for the one on one league. Not like crazy, but imagine like a nine, seven or like a nine, six. Like a nine, six for girls.

[B]

I think you should.

[A]

And maybe 967. Do you see that meme or no?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good. Oh, it's annoying.

[B]

It's the most.

[A]

Am I getting kicked off?

[B]

No, it's the most googled word of the year or something.

[A]

Yeah, so like, imagine like a 967 rim and one on one and you can just like dunk on that. That would be crazy. So that's like something we're discussing. Because sometimes I'll go to the court, like one one crazy videos. Like, segment I did was the rims in Markham, Ontario were like 7ft. Montaria, Ontario. Account, Ontario as a province. And bro, it was like seven foot rims. And I was just doing the most. Like, I just blow past someone and just do a 360 casually. Yeah, it was fun. So to your point, in the mini league, like the mini hoop league, I think I would go crazy.

[B]

You should do it. I would try it. I would try it on a video.

[A]

I'll go dumb. I think I might do that.

[B]

I mean, you're already windmilling on 10ft.

[A]

Yeah. You know all of that that I do on, like, I can do like on a mini hoop. I can do on a real.

[B]

You'd be proud of me. I dunked last Week.

[A]

Did you? Yeah, you. I know you can. You're like what? You're like six eight, bro.

[B]

Six six?

[A]

Are you like six, seven?

[B]

Yeah, you with the six. Seven.

[A]

Shit.

[B]

No, but I dunked like a little white man dunk. Like a two hander.

[A]

As hard like a Chinese dunk.

[B]

Yeah, we're not that athletic.

[A]

Did you make like a Chinese like animated sound when you did it?

[B]

I pulled out the too little after

[A]

this kid was not saying like the, the. What is it called?

[B]

The animation. Yeah.

[A]

I feel like you would go crazy that I go viral.

[B]

I don't embrace my Chinese side. That.

[A]

No.

[B]

On the court. No.

[A]

I should, but I feel like that's the next level for. Yeah, like if you embrace that Chinese side, you'll go crazy. Like.

[B]

Yeah, no one's talking in Chinese.

[A]

No, it talks some in Chinese. Make like some grunts and like that. Yeah, that'd be viral. I'm gonna have to start like some anime.

[B]

I don't bring camera guys to my runs anymore because people will guard you different once you start bringing them.

[A]

Yeah, and they just move extra, bro.

[B]

They move, they try way harder.

[A]

But now with me, it's all the time. Even if there's no cameras. Bro, this is a crazy thing. We'll go to LA Fitness. It's a private membership gym.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll go and play and train with my bro Tanner. And we're just getting up shots. A crowd of like 60 people will show up in that hour and be like, yo, we want to play it. I'm like, bro, there's no cameras. You're not gonna get posted. I don't care. I just want to play you now without cameras. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still like, I'm still getting clipped, bro. It's crazy.

[B]

That's wild.

[A]

Yeah. Everywhere we go, people are just filming.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

It's unbelievable.

[B]

Yeah, Especially la.

[A]

I feel like Louisiana everywhere, bro. I was in Italy checking over my balcony at my hotel and people were filming me on the balcony.

[B]

No way.

[A]

My restaurants, I have a crazy story. I don't even know if it's worth talking about on this pod.

[B]

In Italy?

[A]

No, in. In Toronto. I went to go to dinner and my ex girlfriend, she messages me. She's like, because I went to go into the kitchen and do a tour and like, you know, to promote the restaurant. And she's like, oh, haha, you got kicked out of the restaurant. I'm like, bro, you're not even here. How do you know that? Bro? I get a. I get A message sent to me from another from. From her friend or whatever saying that I'm there. And then another one filming that I was at the restaurant. I'm just like, holy. Like, people are just like, can't go anywhere buying, bro.

[B]

Can't go anywhere.

[A]

No, it's bad. It's really bad.

[B]

That sucks. That sucks. Yeah. I don't ever want to get to that level. Unfortunately, you will.

[A]

Number one podcast.

[B]

When I saw the show in the world.

[A]

Soon. You're going to sell the show one day. Okay.

[B]

The revenue is getting pretty crazy. The viewership's getting nuts.

[A]

Like, ad revenue.

[B]

Yeah. We're starting to get some offers already.

[A]

Are you going to be like the main host?

[B]

Yeah. So what happens is like, they'll pay you for a 10. Like, you know Charlemagne the God.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He sold his show for 200 million last year.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

So you stay as the host and then you. It's like a five or ten year deal.

[A]

That's hard.

[B]

Yeah. Rogan did it too. Rogan did 250 for 10 gas. Yeah.

[A]

I start podcasting.

[B]

You should start one.

[A]

Yeah, well, what should I do though?

[B]

That's the thing. You can't just start a pod and do.

[A]

Because yours is so niche down. As many crazy guests as you get, it is. You keep it niche down.

[B]

We go all in on short form, similar to you. That's our bread and butter. We're known for the clips, so you got to find your kind of angle. I wonder for you.

[A]

So if you were to ask me some questions right now. Three, two, whatever you want. Maybe like six or seven. Like, how many clips would you. How many what? Would you ask me to get a clip? Clip up right now. I know we probably already have tons of clips.

[B]

We already got a ton. Every time I write is a clip.

[A]

So give me one.

[B]

We got seven. Was Neon the worst basketball player you've ever seen?

[A]

Neon is a decent basketball player, but he's not built like that. He's not a dog. He's so scared. And I love him, but it's like his nuts don't drop. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, they're shriveled.

[B]

His T levels are low. Low.

[A]

I love him, but low. Like, he was so scared when I played. I had like, some guys I didn't even pull up with to the court just like barking at him. Like, just barking. Imagine. And he's just like, what the. And he even said it. The LA run we did. I promoted it a day before. No one knew Neon was coming. And he's like how the. Did like 500 people show up. So he wasn't expecting that. He's expecting to be private runs. And when we played like, it was. I felt bad.

[B]

I could tell, like, I. I still

[A]

dogged him, but I was like, bro,

[B]

like, you took his phone.

[A]

You took his phone. I was streaming. I was streaming while I was scoring up, but he just wasn't ready for it.

[B]

Poor neon porny on, man, get in the weight room. Maybe.

[A]

I don't know. He's gotta go to, like, military camp. Like my camp, Like MK camp.

[B]

That would ruin his branding, though. So it's kind of tricky. I feel like why he's known as like, the skinny, like, annoying kid.

[A]

What if he just got jacked and just turned into a demon and just like, you know, piping still with them?

[B]

That's a good question.

[A]

They would, bro, because they always love following his dating life. But imagine, like, imagine he actually like, pulled like a proper shorty, like, got jacked as. Yeah, he's rapping now really low with an Indian. She want to lower the Indian. That track's hard. I've been rapping it like, like over and over again. Pdg. Recently he made a song.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

He needs to get in the studio. He needs to get in the, like, in the weight room. He needs to play ball with me. And he needs like some dating classes to just like, pick out what female is good and what female is toxic. And he'll be a stud and he'll go stupid viral already. Viral. But, like, he'll go even crazier.

[B]

Would you ever get into streaming or you think that's too invasive for you?

[A]

Streaming is like, I'm open to it, but it's got to be the right time, the right place. I don't. I chose this life to not work a 9 to 5 job. Streaming is like how many hours a day? 16 hours of being performative. I can't do it. You know what I mean? It's just too much. There's too much work. I like being horizontal, bro. I like sleeping. I like laying down. I like chilling. So when I play, I like to lay down. Film a pod with you. Streaming is tough. It's a difficult life, which is why I respect all streamers. But I don't know, maybe I'll stream my games. We'll see. Yeah, if I'm going to stream, it needs to be a huge event. Like one on one. Crazy. Like a UFC card, but for ones.

[B]

Yeah, I feel that. I agree. I'm on the same page. I've been offered some deals, but you gave up a lot of your lifestyle.

[A]

A lot of it, yeah. Imagine how many hours these guys are streaming Respects. But it's fucking tiring.

[B]

Vegas would be hard, too, because you can't stream in the hotels.

[A]

Oh, you're not allowed to stream at all?

[B]

Not in mgm, no.

[A]

Fuck.

[B]

Yeah. So I don't know how it would work here, because that's what we're known for, the casinos.

[A]

Yeah, you're right.

[B]

You've been gambling out here this week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's your game?

[A]

Fontaine Blue. How do you say it?

[B]

Fontainebleau.

[A]

Fontainebleau. I was there. We did a deal with them, and I was gambling there.

[B]

How much did you lose?

[A]

Not that much. I'm not like, a crazy gambler. Like, all those wicked stories. I'm, like a weird gambler. Like, I'll just go in with my boys, have fun. Just pull out, like, 500 to a thousand dollars and just play roulette.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And just, like, choose number 33. Number 11. I'll be like, my. My guys, and they'll be like, advising me on what to bet. I just have fun with it. But I'm not, like, a true gambler. I don't. I don't really like gambling unless it's, like, me and the ones I won't gamble.

[B]

Oh, I got to hear some gambling stories with whooping.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Let me show you.

[B]

What's the most you bet on us?

[A]

Hold on. So I played for lots of money. Thousands of dollars, hundreds of dollars. Euros, Macedonian currency. But one of my favorite ones that I bet. This guy wanted to play me so bad. I'm like, bro, I don't want to play you. Like, shut the up. We're not playing. I'll offer you this much money. No, like, put something proper on the line. It's like, all right, I'll put this on the line.

[B]

No way.

[A]

So I actually have the end pass. Grants any holder permission to say the N word. It's official documentation. Feel that?

[B]

That's legit.

[A]

That's metal. That's a black card. Wow. Yeah. That's not the Amex black. That's the card.

[B]

Have you used it yet?

[A]

That. No, No, I just keep in safe and ready. Yeah, I roll with a lot of, like, black friends and stuff like that. They tell me that it's probably not a good idea that I use it. Right? But that was. That's what I play for. I play for crazy. You know what I mean? Cars. Money. But that one was impressive, actually.

[B]

Cars, though.

[A]

Yeah. I played for an i8 BMW. And I. I won, but I felt bad, so I just let him keep, bro. Yeah, I'm not too nice, bro. I'm not gonna keep that. That's up.

[B]

What did you wager against that?

[A]

Nothing. He's just like a. He's just like a fucking. He's a stud. He's. I feel that he's got a nutsack.

[B]

I would say if you wager some money, then it may be.

[A]

But no, but, like, the end pass is crazy though, right?

[B]

Yeah, that's nuts. That's a flex.

[A]

That's a flex.

[B]

That's like flexing an Amex black card.

[A]

Honestly, bro, it is a black.

[B]

I'm more impressed with that than a black card. For real. That's impressive. Not a lot of white people can say that word.

[A]

I don't know. It's not. You're not allowed to use it in all locations apparently. But I do have it if it needs to. If it needs to be shown, I do have it, but I don't. I don't see it.

[B]

I feel. What's the most dangerous place you've played? Was it Brazil or Mexico City?

[A]

What would you say?

[B]

Where you just felt unsafe? You were like, brazil. How am I going to get out of here?

[A]

I did my podcast in Brazil. Sorry? I did the podcast with you before I went to Brazil.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that correct?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, bro.

[A]

When I went to Brazil, we had like AK47s the size of you on the sidelines, white. Yeah. I can't put that in the videos.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I'm playing against like their brother or something like that. So they can just be like, ha. If I'm like bouncing off their head.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I stayed in the favela. I was living in a pacified favela. It seems the police were there. But like, I go into the alleyway to my crib and there's guns. I gotta pass by guys with guns. I was walking through an alleyway, I felt an AK47 tip just touch my calf. That's not so like, that's pretty scary. It's like guys that are like £300, monsters on motorcycles with government grade guns. Pretty scary.

[B]

Yeah. You didn't get a nice ass hotel when you were there?

[A]

No, I had no money, bro. Like when I did the pod with you first, like, I wasn't like balling like that. I could afford my trip at a basic level. The second time I went, I stayed in Copacabana. Like, proper is like more like bougie. But we still went to the trenches, bro. I have the guy who's like, you in the favela. You disrespect me? I shot you. He got shot to me, and he wasn't kidding. No, bro. He's like, like, you know what I mean? I was so scared. And maybe you see it in the video, maybe you don't, but I was

[B]

like, yo, anyone would be.

[A]

Let's be honest, if I, like, do something wrong, like, he'll just call his brother and find me and shoot me. Yeah, they're connected there, bro. They use radios and.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah. And like, yeah, it's scary, man. That. That was bad. I think, like, in Sao Paulo, it's still favela territory. I was saying some crazy. Yeah, the guy in the back was cussing me out in Portuguese. He's like, feel the puta. Like, like, your mother. All this. And I'm like. I said something back in Portuguese and the guy comes up to me, the only English speaking guy. He's like, yo, I advise you, don't talk to those guys behind the fence because they're real. And they didn't even say. He's just like, they're real.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I'm like, what do you mean? Like? Like, is it that bad? He's like, yeah, that's like, the gangsters don't do that.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I was like them, but then I showed love at the end. So we never have problems like that.

[B]

How many languages do you speak?

[A]

I speak a lot of languages. Not fluently, but I say Portuguese, like 90. I did a whole podcast in Portuguese, like, listening and then speaking English. Speak a little bit of Italian, a little bit of Spanish, a little bit of Greek, a little bit. A little bit of English, sometimes Turkish. I know one word. You just go like that and just walk up in Turkey, like you're gonna take it. Well, you're married, but yeah. If you have any boys that go to Turkey, walk up to a girl, just be like. And they'll just get laid instantly.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

I'm serious.

[B]

That works.

[A]

Yeah. No, I feel like I'm serious, bro. I've done it. Just walk up on me. What? So just smile at them like this.

[B]

That's like a cat call in Turkey.

[A]

And it works.

[B]

I feel like you're trolling, bro.

[A]

No, bro, I'm serious. Try it.

[B]

You're gonna get someone hurt.

[A]

Or just tell them, like, just be like, walk up to a girl or like a guy and just be like, yo, baklava is Greek. When you're in Turkey, say It.

[B]

Isn't it Greek?

[A]

There you go.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's like breaking news to me. It's from Turkey.

[A]

They always argue baklava. Baklava is, like, one of the biggest, like, best desserts.

[B]

Dude, it's my favorite dessert.

[A]

Yeah, it's fully Greek, so. But the Turks like to say it's them.

[B]

Yeah. Wow. What's in that notebook?

[A]

I wanna. I wanna. I wanna bring it up. I'm writing a book right now. It's called Open When Ready. So, like, when you open it, like, you gotta be ready. Are you ready or.

[B]

No, I'm ready to hear this.

[A]

Okay. Well, I'm writing it right now. It's done pretty soon. It's like kind of like a designer table book. Like, I don't know, you know those. Like, you know, like the Louis Vuitton. Is that. Yeah, yeah. So kind of like that or whatever. But this one has, like, crazy info. You read it, it's gonna speak to you any page that you want. But I have, like, all walks of life. I have, like, favela gangsters. I got, like, celebs. I got, like, the best artists in the world that write in my books. I filled up probably like 10 to 15 of them this year.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

But whenever I find someone I with genuinely that's got a good heart, everything you write in this book comes true in general. So, like, you're gonna take a moment, right? You're my dog, dude.

[B]

Thank you. I'm honored. Yeah, I'm big on writing down your. Your dreams.

[A]

Yeah, it could be your dream, it could be my dream. It could be, like, in general. It could be whatever you want. I'm gonna read it later, and then you might want to sign it. Otherwise, I'm just going to take credit for it and use it as my own and put it in the book. I like how you just, like, went to it quickly. I. With that, don't let anyone.

[B]

Should I say what I'm writing or.

[A]

No, no, leave it for the book. When it drops, you might be in there and you signed it to. I would have taken it. Damn it. Damn it.

[B]

That's cool that you do that, though.

[A]

Yeah, man. It's gonna be sick. I'll send you a copy when it's ready.

[B]

What's next to you, man? What's the next big thing?

[A]

I think there's, like, so many things that I'm working on right now. I've gotten really into, like, designing clothes. I've gotten into writing my book, writing some show scripts, some TV scripts are like movie scripts. Modeling. Believe it or not, no matter how ugly I am or fat, I'm getting modeling Runway stuff. The one on one basketball league governance show is a huge thing for me. Just because it needs to be done for, like, for sports in general. I think, like, there's an appetite for it and everyone loves it. So a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. And then I want to do some sort of, like, podcast. I think it'd be fun traveling the world, continuing to learn, continuing to, like, elevate others through, like, ruthless, raw, authentic competition. Those are kind of like the things on the agenda.

[B]

I think you could do a cool pod since you travel to so many cool spots and doing locals. Absolutely, you know?

[A]

Absolutely. I think music is another one where it's like a language. I just made a song with Rondo de Sosa. He's a huge Italian artist, super boyed up with Drake. We just went in the studio in California, randomly just made a track. And that's like a language where he doesn't really like. He speaks English pretty good. Pretty good. But I've done a track in Brazil with a guy who doesn't speak any English, and it's like, that's that language where you can like, get off your chest, become brothers and making a piece of art. So a lot of music is. I make like rap songs, all that music videos. Especially while injured. Why not just have fun with it?

[B]

Yeah, I gotta. I gotta listen to some of you.

[A]

I'm send you some. Just don't release it. Or you can use it as the digital social hour, like intro music.

[B]

Can you freestyle?

[A]

Yeah, no, no, I'm not gonna freestyle.

[B]

I was gonna say we can end off with freestyle.

[A]

Can you freestyle?

[B]

Hell no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

When I used to smoke weed a lot, I. I thought I could. Everyone did back in the day.

[A]

I feel like you'd be just cool enough if you could just do like the anime grunt sounds and you'd be good.

[B]

All right. Next time we play together, if I dunk, I'll. I'll do it.

[A]

When a freestyle, we'll have like a session.

[B]

No. Oh, you'll make grunt sound.

[A]

Okay. Can you. Can we get one right now?

[B]

Ah.

[A]

Oh, no, bro, I gotta get it with your organs, bro.

[B]

What?

[A]

You gotta get it with your organs. Like from your stomach. Like. Oh, no, bro, you gotta let it linger. Oh, no, that's like a. If you was. If you were to compare that to a fart, that's like a. Yeah, everyone laughs at you when you do that. Like, you gotta be like, you gotta let it linger. Like, you gotta own it, you know? Like, better. That one's good. That's like a. That's like an anime villain right there.

[B]

We'll end it there.

[A]

Yo, Appreciate you, brother.

[B]

Guys. Peace. Thanks for staying all the way to the end, guys. It means a lot to me if you could please leave a review on Apple. That helps us climb the charts, it helps us get way more guests, and it helps us continue growing the podcast and the team. So it would mean a lot to me if you left a review on Apple or wherever else you're listening. Thanks so much.