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Occult Researcher Breaks Down Hidden Christian Texts | DSH #1976
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| DSH #1976 Morgue returns to Digital Social Hour for a deep conversation on the Epstein files, dark elite power structures, Gnostic texts, forbidden gospels, psychedelics, consciousness, reality, and why humanity may be trapped in a system built on fear and division. He breaks down why he believes the Epstein files are only a small window into a much larger pattern, how ancient religious stories shaped the human psyche, why he sees the material world as closer to a “collective dream,” and how psychedelics, quantum mechanics, occult symbolism, and forgotten texts changed the way he sees reality. This episode goes from ancient Christianity to simulation theory, from Lucifer mistranslations to the Gospel of Thomas, from CIA remote viewing to subconscious programming, and ends with a reminder that personal transformation might be the first real step toward changing the world. Chapters 0:00 Epstein Files, Elite Power, and Dark Energy 5:25 Division, Consciousness, and the Need for ...
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Morgue
And essentially he's not very nice. He kills a lot of people, basically. Quantum physics and philosophy and whatnot gave me sort of the intellectual understanding where psychedelics gave me the conscious experience of like, this is what it feels like.
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Podcast Host
Got it. Because it put you in that state of not a material world. The psychedelics.
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Morgue
Yes. It opened my mind up to the fact of the limitless of the human mind.
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Podcast Host
Okay, guys. Got Morgue back on the show last episode did well. So had to invite him back while I'm out here. Thanks for coming back on, man.
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Morgue
Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm excited.
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Podcast Host
Absolutely.
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Morgue
A lot going on lately.
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Podcast Host
I want to start off with the files. The Epstein files.
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Morgue
Files, yeah. Well, I mean, that's kind of on the mind of the nation and the world. And look, I mean, the thing is, is that it's absolutely horrific, terrible, disgusting, but it's really exposing something to the public that just has been going on for a very long time. This, that. This isn't really a surprise or a shock to me. This occurs in the fact that the billionaire class think that they have this power over humanity and they treat themselves like gods. And so being able to have that exposed out into the open is a way for us to actually have the public begin to acknowledge that this system is not working for them. It is actively working against them.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
And I would say that specifically with like the work that I do in esoterica and occult and religious studies and things like this is. This stuff is very highly influenced by very real dark energy. And for example, I talk a lot about Gnosticism and the God of the Bible and all that. I mean, the stuff that's in the Bible is worse than the Epstein files.
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Podcast Host
Wow.
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Morgue
Like, if the God. If God was a person, he'd be in the Epstein files. So we got, you know, God literally accepts a burnt virgin sacrifice. You can't get more satanic than that. He sanctions the rape of young women. In the Gnostic text, he rapes Eve and tries to sexually assault her. His daughter or her daughter.
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Podcast Host
I didn't know that.
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Morgue
And it's just goes to show that when. My point is, is this idea has been infected the human psyche for so long. And when you are infected with these stories that shape the psyche, this results in what we have today in these billionaire elite dominant class who think that they rule the world and they want to show how powerful they are by doing these horrific acts with children because they get this high off of it is just absolutely. Yeah, it's disgusting and immoral and the Point is, is that it's time for people to like wake the fuck up and realize that we're just seeing a little glimpse of stuff that's been going on for a long time.
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Podcast Host
Right? Yeah. So if this class has been around for a while, then there's no stopping it at this point.
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Morgue
Well, I do think that it is possible to stop it, but in my opinion, the way to sort of stop this sort of thing, I mean, there's a lot of little steps you can take, of course. Right. Like people should be prosecuted, people should be held accountable, people should go to jail.
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Podcast Host
But aren't they above the law system?
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Morgue
Exactly right. There's this two tiered system where they operate above the law. There's. They operate at a different level from you and I or the average person on the street. You know, anyone else would be strung up if they were implicated like this. But there's this two tiered system. And so that. Yeah, that. You're absolutely right. And that kind of goes to my point is that, you know, little steps can be taken, but is it really going to work? And so what I really like to focus on is in the long term, for any truly lasting change to occur, there has to be a global shift in consciousness. Like humanity literally has to reach the next level of consciousness because we live in a, in a, in a, in a consciousness of division and fracture. And the elites take advantage of that to keep humanity divided and fractured.
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Podcast Host
Right.
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Morgue
And so these, you know, like, again, I talk a lot about Gnosticism. There's these dark beings known as archons that literally feed on fear, anger and dark human emotion. And it says in the forbidden Gospels the way they control humanity. It says they want to keep humanity their slaves forever. Says the way they do it is through propaganda. They manipulate language, they manipulate consciousness, they, they keep people divided. Like division is the main method to keep people in line. And you can see that the billionaire class today is a direct manifestation of that archonic power. Now luckily, there's an antidote to that archonic power of division is unity. And so it's very important to enter into a space where we understand, like what we are, where we are and why we are really here so we can step up as our own true saviors rather than being, you know, confined by this evil rich elite, you know, pedophile bullshit.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
Or on the contrary, just sitting around waiting for the Savior to come down from heaven to save us. Neither of those things are true. Like it's up to us. Like we can make the world any way we want.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
We have just allowed these to make it the way they want. So it's up to us to transform all.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. They're playing God almost, right?
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Morgue
Absolutely. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Division's all I knew growing up. I feel like most people can relate to that. Right?
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Morgue
What's that? Division.
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Podcast Host
Division's all I knew. Like whether it was through religion, whether it's through. Oh yeah. Politics. There was always division occurring in my life.
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Morgue
Oh yeah, I would imagine so. I mean it's built into the systemic, it's built into the system and you
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Podcast Host
don't need to divine about it. Like it's just there. Know what I mean?
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Morgue
Yeah. It feels normal, it feels natural and it's. It's designed to be easily digestible.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. When do you think we, we were lost a society where there wasn't division? Do you think that was ever a case in. In the past?
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Morgue
I don't think that in the past. I mean, no. I don't think that we've ever been a truly united society. I think certain pockets of humanity have popped up here and there's. It may have been united in certain degrees, but like humanity as a whole, I don't think they have gotten that far yet because I look at the evolution of consciousness in stages and right now we're at the stage of self awareness and what I'm trying to do with my videos and whatnot is get people to the stage of all awareness. Okay. And so I believe that certain pockets of people have popped up throughout history who have had this higher awareness of all awareness and it's. And through them have been able to create pockets of people. But to happen on a massive global stage requires a shift across all humanity or at least a very large portion of humanity. And that's why I really value social media. Because in one sense social media keeps us imprisoned and in a low state of consciousness. But it can also be used as a tool to spread information as well. So yeah.
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Podcast Host
It's like a double edged sword, right?
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Morgue
Very much so, yeah. Absolutely.
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Podcast Host
Speaking of swords, you brought sword again.
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Morgue
No, I didn't. Hey, anytime you want me to bring a sword, let me know. I got other stuff too. I got hooks, I got lots of.
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Podcast Host
You could swallow a hook.
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Morgue
I put a hook in my nose and twisted out my mouth.
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Podcast Host
Oh my gosh.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Does that hurt?
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Morgue
It's not comfortable.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
I don't know if people know I used to work at a freak show. So that's how I stun artist and all that. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
I went to David Blaine show in Vegas.
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Morgue
Oh, how was that?
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Podcast Host
Good. He was sticking ice picks through his arm, really jumping off, like, must have been at least 50ft.
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Morgue
I haven't seen what he's doing in a long time, but I remember the 90s or something. He was really, you know. Yeah, he was really popular.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, he's trying to be the modern day Houdini.
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Morgue
Yeah, yeah.
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Podcast Host
Was that an inspiration for you? Houdini?
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Morgue
I mean, honestly, Blaine was more of an inspiration than. Than Houdini. When I was growing up, Blaine was kind of the first magician that I ever really encountered that was doing it in the way that he did. And so I was actually, I was actually a magician before I was a stunt artist. And so I've always been drawn to this idea of like presenting people with a mystery and getting them to like think outside the box because that's what had always been my thing. Even when I was doing magic tricks. It wasn't just like, oh, look at this cool thing. It's like, open your mind to possibilities, you know, start thinking about things.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, I can see the similarities with what you do now. You're trying to get people to think outside the box.
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Morgue
Yeah, absolutely. 100.
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Podcast Host
I was on your YouTube. Your latest videos are covering the Gospel of Thomas, right?
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Morgue
Yes. So if you're talking about the one I think. Is this the one about Jesus's childhood?
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Podcast Host
Yeah, his childhood.
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Morgue
Okay. It's a weird one. So just to be clear, this is the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. There's another book called the Gospel of Thomas. They're very different books.
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Podcast Host
Got it.
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Morgue
So I just want be clear. So the Infancy Gospel of Thomas is not the Gospel of Thomas and it's not Gnostic, but it's its own. It's its own book. And it's a very, very interesting, very strange one. And essentially, if we go by the Bible, we don't know much about what happened during Christ's childhood. It's just, oh, he's born in Bethlehem. And then fast forward to when he's in his teenage years and he's teaching in a synagogue. And then fast forward to when he's an adult. So you don't really see very much at all what happened between being born and an adult, except this one little scene of him teaching some people. So what the Infancy Gospel of Thomas is. Proposes to do is say, well, here's what happened when Jesus was a child. And. And it's a really wild one. It starts off when I believe he was five, maybe four, but I think five. And essentially he. He's not very nice. He kills a lot of people basically.
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Podcast Host
At five.
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Morgue
Yes, at five.
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Podcast Host
Obviously killing people at five.
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Morgue
So the thing is, is that. So he. So it opens up with Jesus, like, playing in the. In the dirt.
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Podcast Host
And.
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Morgue
And he's like, using his Jesus powers to move water around. And this other kid who's kind of like a bully, like, messes his water up, and then he basically tells the kid something like, drop dead or something, and the kid dies.
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Podcast Host
Whoa.
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Morgue
Oh, no. He said to shrivel or you won't bear fruit anymore. And he shrivels up or something like that. He's not in a good condition. He's almost. He's like. He's shriveled.
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Podcast Host
Got it.
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Morgue
And his parents freak out. Later on, another kid bumps into Jesus. And Jesus takes. Tells the kid, you're not going to finish where you're going. And then that kid drops dead. The parents complain. Jesus blinds the parents for complaining. And it. So it sounds really bad, right?
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Podcast Host
God was ruthless.
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Morgue
Yeah, it sounds. It doesn't sound good. It sounds like he's. He's this evil, you know, child. But when you actually look at it, because, you know, I always look at these stories in terms of symbolism, like, what's it actually trying to teach. And when you look at it, even though it's presented in a very, very violent way, it's really interesting because what it's showing is basically like. So in the beginning, when Jesus is playing in the mud, he. He creates 12 little clay sparrows and then gives them life and they fly away. This is obviously an allegory for the 12 disciples, right? And so there's stuff like that hidden throughout. And so what's essentially happening is that Jesus is considered the Logos or the Word. And the Word is sort of like the programming code of reality. So Jesus is the word, the code of reality, instantiated into an individual. So whatever he says becomes real. That's why Whitney tells a kid, you're not going to finish where you're going. He drops dead. He tells another, you know, tells the parents they won't be able to see anything. He says whether it's good or bad basically happens because he represents the underlying structure or code of reality. And this is further shown later when a teacher wants to teach Jesus his ABCs. Basically, he wants to teach Christ the ABCs. And Jesus tells the teacher, you have no idea what you're talking about. Let me tell you what alpha or A really means. And if you can understand the alpha, then, hey, maybe you can understand the beta or the B, you know, Whether using the Greek Alphabet. So, and he essentially begins to break it down in terms of how these letters structure reality. So he'll describe, like the letter A, how there's one side and another side connected by a point, a line in the middle, which is connecting like heaven and earth, basically. And he's using these letters to describe, like, how reality is actually structured. And again, you can think of it like a programming code. They also, back then believed that the Hebrew Alphabet constructed reality as well, which is also interesting because the Hebrew Alphabet is. They have no numbers. The letters are the numbers. So every letter corresponds to a number. So to say reality is made of letters is to say reality is made of numbers.
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Podcast Host
Interesting.
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Morgue
And so it's very much like a very proto simulation theory almost where things are run by this underlying structure, this underlying code. Anyway, he teaches. He's teaching this teacher the ABCs. And the teacher, he basically has a breakdown and goes insane. Another teacher tries again. That teacher ends up dropping dead as well. So because they can't handle like all this, they were like, damn, we just wanted to teach you how to read and write. And you're telling us the nature of reality, basically. So there's a lot of interesting things to it. And it. But it does have a positive resolution in that towards the end, people start realizing, hey, this Jesus guy, he is divine. And once they recognize that he begins to. He basically heals everyone that was hurt before, raises everyone back from the dead that had died and all that. Yeah. So when you look at it, you know, in a symbolic way, what it's really talking about is how when you are dead or deny spirituality, you. You are dead. You are. You're blind to the truth, or you wither up and don't produce fruit or good works anymore, et cetera. But when you accept and acknowledge the divine, then you are no longer withered, you're full, and you're producing good fruit and you have the eyes to see, et cetera. So it's a very violent and weird story. But when you look beyond that at the symbolism, it's actually really interesting.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, that is fascinating. I've never heard of this text. So is this a banned text or is it.
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Morgue
Oh, yeah, it's not. Yeah, the church didn't like any of these texts. So like I said, it's not gnostic, but it's certainly not a church book. The church life.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, they don't want that out there.
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Morgue
Yeah, I mean, as you can see, I mean, it doesn't really fit very well with their narrative of Jesus Yeah, so like, I don't believe that this literally happened. Right. Like, I don't believe historically Jesus as a kid was going around knocking kids off.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
But I believe that it, it embeds symbolically truths of existence.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Interesting. And was that written before the Bible or when did that.
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Morgue
After.
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Podcast Host
Oh, after.
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Morgue
Yeah. Well, if we're talking about like, yeah, the Gospels and all that. Yeah, after.
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Podcast Host
Okay. Interesting. Yeah. I always find the timelines weird. They don't add up to me there.
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Morgue
Oh yeah, well, it's because, I mean, so again, my opinion is that these are stories. I think that there are, there's some historical elements to it. Like, I believe Jesus existed as an enlightened individual with the powers that be, saw as the threat and killed. I don't believe he walked on water and was risen from the dead and all that sort of thing. I believe that those are embellishments. It was very, very common to do that back then. You know, you look at the Greek stories and the Greek gods doing all these wild things. It was very, very common thing to do that back then. And then the other thing that most people don't know is that the Gospels were actually written anonymously.
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Podcast Host
Really?
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Morgue
The, the, you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, they slapped those names on later as like a branding.
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Podcast Host
Wow.
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Morgue
Strategy.
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Podcast Host
They know that.
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Morgue
Yeah. So a lot of people are like, oh, well, I don't know about the Gnostic Gospels because they weren't really written by so and so neither were the, the gospels in the Bible.
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Podcast Host
Geez. And every religion has similar things with their text. Right. How they don't accept some of them. I know with, oh yeah, Islam has the hadiths or whatever.
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Morgue
So yeah, you always find that these certain, you know, heretics in the, in different denominations. But I actually really like that because heretic comes from the word heresis, which means to choose. So heretic is someone who makes a choice, who chooses. And so I think that's a compliment because you're not just blindly following, you're using your mind to choose something.
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Podcast Host
Right. Yeah. I mean, even with the Bible, there's so many versions these days.
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Morgue
Oh yeah.
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Podcast Host
I don't even know where to start. You know, I was trying to read it because I'm doing a lot of Christianity content now.
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Morgue
Oh, nice.
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Podcast Host
I'm moderating a lot of debates. But the. I showed someone the version I was reading, he's like, don't read that one. The King James one.
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Morgue
Oh, the classic King James Bible.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. He said not to read that one for some reason.
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Morgue
I mean, they're so like the King James Bible. I mean, it caused a lot of problems. Like, the King James Bible introduced Lucifer. And the name Lucifer appears in no modern Bibles, only in the King James and maybe the new King James.
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Podcast Host
Wow.
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Morgue
I'm. I'm not sure if it's in the new King James or not, but basically hardly any Bible has the name Lucifer at all because it was a mistranslation. So the word Lucifer was a mistranslation. It just refers to the planet Venus in the morning. Morning star. It was an astrological term. And so even the Jerome who was translating it from Hebrew to Latin, even in his footnote said, oh, Lucifer isn't really even the right word. We're just doing it for ease of understanding. And then furthermore, Lucifer wasn't even capitalized. It wasn't meant as a proper name. It was meant as. As a term to refer to a star. And then so because of that one little thing and a lot of historical elements, you got this whole backstory of Lucifer as this pre Satan fallen angels or. That's not in the Bible.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, people think he's a devil, right?
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Morgue
Yeah, people think that Lucifer is a fallen angel that became the devil. That's not true. What? Yeah, not. Not at all.
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Podcast Host
In like every movie, I feel like too Hollywood movies.
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Morgue
Yeah, I know. That just goes to show you how far back it goes. Lucifer was a term that the Romans used at. For. For astronomy to refer to Venus in the morning. You go back to the Greeks, they called it phosphorus, which means light bringer. Same thing to refer to planet Venus in the morning. So it was. So the, the interesting thing is that the Venus, Lucifer is associated with the bringing of the dawn light and the planet of love, Venus. So you really have this figure. It's of love and light. And then Christianity came around, it was like, you know what, we're gonna make that guy the devil. The complete opposite. Right. So.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So do you actually believe in a devil then?
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Morgue
I believe in a force that can be symbolically represented by the devil.
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Podcast Host
Not a literal one person.
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Morgue
No. Right, Correct.
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Podcast Host
Got it. Yeah. Everyone always thinks of one figure when they think of the devil.
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Morgue
I think so too. Yeah. But I mean, you can, you can have an image in your head of what the devil may look like to you, but I don't think it literally. I don't think the devil literally exists as how he's described in the Bible.
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Podcast Host
Got it.
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Morgue
Because even in the Bible, in the Old Testament, the devil wasn't the enemy of God in the Old Testament, he was called Hasatan, which means the adversary or the accuser. And he kind of worked like a prosecutor in the court of God. He would work for God. He would find sinners and be like, hey, this guy's sinning. And they were not enemies. He'd been God's courtroom all the time. It wasn't until the New Testament that Satan had trans sort of transformed into this, like, you know, God versus light versus Dark sort of thing.
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Podcast Host
Is that because it was a different author or what do you think happened there with the Old and the New Testament?
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Morgue
Well, there was just a lot of things happening at the time, especially with, you know, them starting to absorb ideas about, like, hell didn't exist either in the Old Testament, really. Yeah, Hell's not in the Old Testament. They just have something called sheol, which means the pit or the grave. And that's where everyone goes, whether you're good or bad. You go to the pit, you go to the grave. They didn't have the concept of hell. So, you know, if. If hell were true, you'd think God would maybe want to mention that. But apparently he slipped his mind for, you know, however many thousand years. And then in the New Testament, that's when hell starts to be brought up. But even then, it's not as like Jesus talked about Gehenna as, you know, being burned in Gehenna, but Gehenna was, and that gets translated as hell. But Gehenna is a real place in Jerusalem. Like, you could go there and take a selfie, and it's an actual place. So Jesus was using metaphors and parables like, hey, if you. If you, you know, live a trashy life, you're going to end up in the trashy, you know, trash heap of Ghana, basically. But people took it and run with it, ran with it to the idea of. Of. Of hell. But back then, too, you had sort of the Greek religions really pushing this idea of like, the underworld and Hades and all that, and that kind of got absorbed into the Christian tradition and took on the form of. Of hell.
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Podcast Host
Wow. The Greek tradition influenced the Christian tradition in some capacity.
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Morgue
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
That's interesting.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. The Greek gods, that's a fascinating topic. I'm sure you've done a deep dive into that, too.
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Morgue
I mean, the whole New Testament is written in Greek.
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Podcast Host
So is it Aramaic? Right. Or is that the New Testament?
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Morgue
The New Testament, as far as I know, all the copies that we have originally written in Greek. I could be wrong about that.
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Podcast Host
But you're right. I think it got translated after.
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Morgue
Yeah, very possibly.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. And you lose a lot of meaning through translation, right?
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Morgue
Oh, don't even get me started on how much meaning you lose on trans. I'll tell you the one that pisses me off the most. It's the word repent. So, repent. You usually think, oh, repent for the kingdom of heaven is near. That's. That's a very famous saying by Jesus. If you look at the Greek, the word that they translate as repent is metanoia, which means to change your mind, not feel bad, not feel guilty, change your mind. Or meta as in higher mind. Just so. And then he taught also that the kingdom of heaven is within. So when he says, repent for the kingdom of heaven is near, he's saying, change your mind. There's a new state of consciousness right there for you to grasp.
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Podcast Host
Wow, that's a big difference.
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Morgue
Yeah. And now it's like, oh, feel guilty for your sins or else you're going to burn forever. Unless you grovel before a cosmic master. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
So how do you navigate that as someone who reads a lot of these ancient texts and like, are you kind of reading it with a different perspective because, you know, the translation could be lost?
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Morgue
Oh, absolutely. I think that I'm always very cautious about understanding how things are translated. Uh, like I said, there's so many things that are translated incorrectly. Sin is another word that's translated incorrectly. Sin comes from a Greek word that means misalignment. It's not about doing something evil, it's about missing the mark.
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Podcast Host
Wow.
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Morgue
So, like, if you are an archer and you fire an arrow at a target and it misses, you're not evil. You're misaligned. So sin is really about misalignment, being misaligned from your purpose or the divine source, etc.
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Podcast Host
And look at what they've done.
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Morgue
And look what they did.
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Podcast Host
Crap.
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Morgue
Yeah, it's bad.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, it's a big deal. Now. I remember growing up as a kid, like, really scared of sins.
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Morgue
So you grew up as Christian or. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Probably until like middle school. Then I was like, what is this? You know what I mean? Started questioning stuff.
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Morgue
Yeah, I was. I was terrified of all that. You know, the idea of hell, the idea that God can just like read your mind, constantly teaching your kids stuff like that is. Is.
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Podcast Host
No, it's bad.
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Morgue
It's really bad.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. I remember, like, trying to act good for Santa Claus, all that stuff.
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Morgue
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's basically the same thing with God. Act Good. Or else you're gonna except you'll burn in hell forever. And I just get a lump of coal.
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Podcast Host
And they completely made up the whole Santa thing.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Like, I hate to break it to you, there's kids watching, but. Oh, yeah, Crazy, man. Are you reading anything specific right now? You kind of just piecing together things?
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Morgue
I'm always reading a lot of different things. I mean, I could say that the latest text that I did a video about is a Gnostic text called the Concept of Our Great Power, which talks about the rise of the Antichrist, which is really interesting. So, like I said, in Gnosticism, they had this idea of the Archons, which are the dark rulers of this world, and the fact that we are basically trapped in this simulated reality. And I really like this particular text because addresses the reader and straight up says, like, this is a dream. You need to wake up and just like, see something that written, you know, a thousand years ago, over a thousand years ago. It was really cool to see something like, so direct as you are asleep in a dream, you need to wake up. And it also says, have you never questioned what you are or where you come from? And then it basically goes into this idea of. The reason why it's called the Concept of our Great Power is because we are all from the Great Power, if we were just to understand it. But the Archons don't want us to realize our Great Power, so they do all these distractions and it gets into this entity called the Archon of the West. It says the Archon of the west will arise and travel to the East. And this is very important because west symbolizes. It's the setting of the sun. So it symbolizes darkness, light going out. Where east is illumination. It's where the sun rises. It's the. The new dawn. And so the Archon of the west, of the darkened regions is going to travel to the illuminated regions in order to trick humanity and deceive humanity. And he will become this great leader and basically imitate and twist the teachings of Jesus to control the masses, basically. So that's very. Yeah, it's very interesting.
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Podcast Host
That was written a thousand years ago.
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Morgue
At least it's more longer than that.
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Podcast Host
Interesting. And you said something about the Antichrist coming.
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Morgue
Well, the Archon of the west would be the Antichrist in that sense. Right. So that the Archon of the west is this Antichrist who comes in response to the fact that they're basically pissed because Christ came and woke a bunch of people up. So, like, what are we going to do now we're going to send in the Antichrist, the archon of the west, who they literally call the imitator, to twist the message of Christ and teach a false version of, of Christianity.
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Podcast Host
And that's exactly what happened, right?
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Morgue
Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Podcast Host
Holy crap. They predicted that happening.
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Morgue
Yeah. I mean, in, in a lot of these texts, like for example, the Gospel of Judas, Jesus straight up says, tells the disciples, you guys are all going to lead humanity astray and do violence and you're all going to do it in my name. And that's, that's a, that's a very interesting gospel as well.
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Podcast Host
He told the disciples that.
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Morgue
Oh yeah, yeah. He straight up told the disciples that. That basically, basically you guys work for the devil is basically, essentially what he said to the disciples.
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Podcast Host
No faith in them.
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Morgue
Yeah, no. So what who he did have faith in though was, was Mary Magdalene. So he gave the secret teachings to Mary according to these Gnostic gospels. Yeah. So according to these secret gospels, he gave his secret teachings to Mary Magdalene and his brother James. So not the 12, but Mary Magdalene and his brother James.
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Podcast Host
He gave either of them write about it or disclose the secrets ever.
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Morgue
Well, we have the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. Now of course, I don't believe it was literally written by Mary Magdalene, just like I don't believe Matthew, Mark and Luke and John were literally written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. But it tells the story of what it was that Jesus taught Mary. And it's same thing in the Gospel of James. It tells James what Jesus taught him. And essentially they're very, very similar. It's how to overcome the archons after death. Like, basically you're going to be approached by these dark beings and you have to be able to give them these sort of like cosmic passwords to be able to pass or else you're going to, they're going send you back into reincarnation again.
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Podcast Host
Interesting.
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Morgue
And essentially, I mean, long story short, it's very complicated, but you essentially have to prove to them that you know what you really are and where you really come from and what God really is. And if you get any of those questions wrong, they're going to send you back to earth, basically.
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Podcast Host
So it's almost like a test when you die.
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Morgue
Yeah, yeah, yeah. According to those gospels.
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Podcast Host
Yes. And do you think that's how it actually plays out when you die?
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Morgue
So again, I think that it plays out in item, like are you really going to be approached by these, you know, dark horned entities with a clipboard, you know, strapped to a lie detector to Test or something like that? No, I. I highly doubt that. But what I do think that it shows is that these forces are real and you have to have the enlightenment and knowledge of the. To be able to answer those questions for yourself.
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Podcast Host
Right.
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Morgue
Or else you're going to be pulled back to Earth because you haven't achieved. I. So I look at Earth as a way to. Like, if you're playing a video game, it's where you level up and if you haven't leveled up enough, you can't get to the next level. You're going to. You have to replay level one again. And so, yes, I do think that you need to know that. You need to know what you are. You need to know where you are. You need to know what the concept of God is and the sources, or else you're just going to be sent back to try again, basically.
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Podcast Host
I agree.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. I do see it very similar to a video game.
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Morgue
Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's a really healthy way to look at it, too. When we have so much going down on the world, too. When it, when it's like, you know what, at the end of the day, this is an experience that we're having. There's going to be good parts, there's going to be bad parts, there's going to be horrific parts. But that's just the nature of life. If you had a book where there was no villain, like, who would read the book? Right. Like, it's. Yeah, it'd be very boring. Yeah. They need both that contrast.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Dark and light. Do you see a end game to it all, or do you think it's a continuous video game?
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Morgue
So I do believe that there is an end of time, but I believe it's cyclical. So basically, I believe that at. At the very end of time, when we all have evolved, we will return to the singularity, the one. The realm of pure light, which is a realm of basically symmetrical, perfect perfection. Perfect symmetry in mathematical terms, perfect symmetry. But I don't believe that we will stay there for long. I believe that we will enter into asymmetry after that to fracture and shatter ourselves again. Because if you think about it, to be in a state of perfection forever would become hell. Like, nothing interesting would ever happen. You would just, like, sit there in light, being like, all right, cool. This is nice for a minute, but it would get pretty boring. Yeah. So essentially, there's this idea that we, we. We basically choose to throw ourselves into forgetfulness on purpose, to have the adventure of discovering it again. And we sort of do this again and again, over and over.
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Podcast Host
That's so true. Because whenever I picture heaven, I'm like, I would get bored.
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Morgue
Oh, it's awful. It sounds terrible.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
We'll just play harp all day. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
I'd be so bored with no suffering. Like, it's crazy to say that, but it just. If everything went my way.
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Morgue
Yeah. I mean, the, like, you know, imagine a video game where there was no challenge. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
When you cheat in a video game.
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Morgue
Yeah. Like, yeah. There's no fun. There's no point to it. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
I used to do that. And it felt like it was fun in the moment, but then long term, and.
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Morgue
And see, like, that's exactly why we wipe our memories, because if we didn't, it'd be like cheating and then it would. It wouldn't be fun.
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Podcast Host
So you got to activate those hidden memories, right?
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Morgue
Yeah, exactly.
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Podcast Host
What have you done to do that for yourself? Was it reading these texts?
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Morgue
Yeah. Well, one thing, one quick point I want to make real quick before we talk about that. Is that. So, like in Gnosticism, they talk about the realm of light and this entity known as Sophia, who. Who wants to create on her own without her partner. And when she does that, she ends up giving birth to the dark God of the Bible who creates the material world. So she's often looked at as both a savior figure because she wants humanity to come back to the light. But it's also kind of like there's this idea of like, well, she kind of fucked up, right? Everything was perfect. She kind of fucked things up. And her name means wisdom, by the way. Sophia is the Greek word for wisdom. So. So it's like, well, that doesn't seem like a very wise thing to do. But in my opinion, she's very misunderstood. And that is the wisest thing one could do because without Sophia breaking the symmetry, we would be locked in that state of just nothingness forever.
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Podcast Host
That's fascinating because the creator of the Matrix and Terminator, her name's Sophia. She's been on the show.
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Morgue
Oh, interesting.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
Yeah, that's a cool. That's a cool name.
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Podcast Host
Wow.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Sophia Stewart. Shout out to her.
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Morgue
Yeah, I don't know anything about her. I haven't heard of her. But you had asked what. What I had done.
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Podcast Host
Oh, yeah. How'd you unlock your. People call them past life memories or whatever you want.
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Morgue
Oh, yeah. So I think. So it's different for everyone.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
But for me specifically, what really catalyzed my journey into all this was studying quantum mechanics and psychedelics. So quantum mechanics is what exposed me to the fact that reality cannot be material. But you have all these founders of quantum quantum mechanics saying reality isn't material, it's not matter, it's mind. And like on and on and on, this, this insurmountable evidence that reality is clearly not material. And so that is what really started getting me to kind of go down the rabbit hole and really starting to intensely study physics and mathematics and philosophy etc and ultimately the occult because it's all tied together. But then also psychedelics helped in the po in, in the field of like actually experiencing it. So so quantum, quantum physics and philosophy and whatnot gave me sort of the intellectual understanding, whereas psychedelics gave me the conscious experience of like this is what it feels like, you know.
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Podcast Host
Got it. Because it put you in that state of not a material world. The psychedelics.
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Morgue
Yes. It opened my mind up to the fact of the limitless of the human mind. This is like how limitless? Because I equate the mind with soul, like not brain. I see the brain as an interface.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
So the brain is an interface and the soul or mind interfaces with the brain to be kind of like putting on a VR headset to interact in this domain. So it really opened my mind to the fact that our mind soul is truly limitless and just you know, amazed at the immense capacity.
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Podcast Host
It's like that movie Limitless, right?
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Morgue
I don't think I've ever seen it,
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Podcast Host
but I'm sure basically the premise is like we're only using 7% of our brains.
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Morgue
Oh, interesting. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
And I kind of see some similarities with how we're living. You know what I mean?
- [33:32]
Morgue
Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Podcast Host
Like even though it's a movie, but I feel like we're not activating our true capability.
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Morgue
Oh, 100% not. I mean you just look at humanity. So people are at vastly different levels of consciousness. Some people have never self reflected a moment in their life and you can tell, you know, so yeah, yeah, some
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Podcast Host
people are just living in, it's almost like they're living in a new, like a separate reality than us. I, yeah, like it's not the same world.
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Morgue
I, I, I agree because you know, I used to be ex Christian nationalist, I was raised Christian and I can remember the mindset that I had back then. It's like being in a different world because you see everything as like, oh, this table is a creation of God and I have this mission that God has given me and I am, it's just every, you interpret everything different. So even if you're living technically in the same world with the person, you're interpreting that world completely different.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. That's a crazy concept, right? Parallel universes and. But they're actually here right now. It's not really parallel.
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Morgue
Yeah, exactly. I don't believe in, like, literally. But, you know, to point. What we're saying is that consciousness kind of creates that idea of we're all in the same space, but we're all interpreting it in a completely different way.
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Podcast Host
Do you think every object is conscious living?
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Morgue
No, I think that. So I think every object is mind, but not necessarily conscious. So, like when you go to sleep and dream and you have a dream. Yeah, your dream chair. I wouldn't say it's conscious. Right. But it's mind because it's created from a projection of your. Of your mind.
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Podcast Host
Got it.
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Morgue
Right. So I would say that every. Like this. I wouldn't say is.
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Podcast Host
Right.
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Morgue
I wouldn't say is conscious, but I would say that it is a thought. A thought pattern. Right. So your thoughts aren't exactly conscious, but your consciousness is made up of thoughts. So I. Look. So the way I view reality is that this is a collective dream.
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Podcast Host
Hmm.
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Morgue
And so objects are collective thought forms, essentially. And so it's very similar to a dream. But when you go to sleep and dream, you can change stuff just by thinking about it because it's your mental frequency patterns that compose it. You can do that when you're in the waking world. Every soul in existence contributes to the pattern of the objective reality. And so you can't change something just by thinking about it, because it's not just your frequency patterns that make that up. It's every mind's in existence that makes everything I care.
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Podcast Host
Fascinating. Yeah. I need to play that at 0.5x speed to fully understand. But I do know a lot of the brightest minds, especially scientists back in the day, did a lot of work on their dreams.
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Morgue
Oh, very interesting.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. A lot of their. If you go back and listen to their writings or read their books, they said a lot of their inventions came in the dream world.
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Morgue
That's very cool. Yeah. I know Albert Einstein used to do. I think this is true. He used to do something called slumber with a key or something and he would. He would, like hold. It was. He held some object, I think it was. Right.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
And he would just like, start to drift off and then he'd drop his keys and wake him up and sort of that liminal space in between sleep and dreaming is like when he would have his best ideas.
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Podcast Host
I wonder why that is? Because I can relate to that when I'm like about to fully fall asleep. Crazy ideas.
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Morgue
Yeah. I mean, because what I really think it is is that it introduces novel ideas because our, when we're awake, our left brain hemispheric functions are very like our linear way of thinking, putting things into boxes, categorizing things, expectations. And then when you start to fall asleep, you enter into more of a right hemispheric mode. And so the sort of, the filtering mechanism is much more relaxed. So stuff that you might not have thought about before is able to come. Is able to come through.
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Podcast Host
That makes sense.
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Morgue
Yeah. And that's why I think it, you know, people who have like schizophrenia or psychosis, very similar that. That filter is very thin for them. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Have you tried Hemi Sync, what's it called? Meditation?
- [37:20]
Morgue
Very briefly, when I have more time, I'd like to do it.
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Podcast Host
I think.
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Morgue
Yeah, I think I did it for maybe like a week or something. But you got to do it for, you know, like nine months at least one of those things.
- [37:27]
Podcast Host
There's a group at Heritage, I forget the name of the place.
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Morgue
I think the Monroe Institute.
- [37:32]
Podcast Host
Monroe Institute. And they teach it and it just. Everyone I know that's done it has speaking wonders.
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Morgue
That's really cool. I, I'm very open minded to it. I would like to try it. And one reason why I'm kind of interested in it is they did a. You know, the CIA went to Monroe Institute and they, and they published a remote viewing, a. A report, a CIA report. Um, and I read the document and it explains the theory behind how it works. And it is very accurate to what I have found in my studies and the occult and esoterica and quantum mechanics, et cetera.
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Podcast Host
Wow.
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Morgue
And it was funny because sort of the, you know, after all these pages and pages of the report, you know, what's this? What was the, you know, the agent's final conclusion was basically like, well, it's not accurate enough to be used as a weapon, but it's extremely useful for expanding consciousness and understanding the self and reality. And so CIA was like, well, forget it. Yeah, we don't want it then for
- [38:27]
Podcast Host
one, knowing how to do that.
- [38:28]
Morgue
Yeah. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
It must be very powerful to be able to sync your, your two brains like that.
- [38:32]
Morgue
I'd imagine so. I'm always healthily skeptical, but I'm, I'm open minded to it. I want to try it.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
- [38:38]
Morgue
I want to try to try it. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
For me, with. I'm not trying to make excuses, but like With ADHD and autism, like, meditation has never really worked for me.
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Morgue
No, I could imagine.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Sitting for an hour straight, I just, My brain goes crazy.
- [38:48]
Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
You had any success with meditation?
- [38:51]
Morgue
Yes, I do more ceremonial ritual work than I do meditation. But I do do meditation occasionally. And I mean, something that helps is, you know, binaural beats. Binaural beats are very helpful, things like that. But yeah, I, I would say that I, I engage in meditation occasionally, but more so ritualistic type of activity.
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Podcast Host
Like psychedelics.
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Morgue
Certainly psychedelics, but not necessarily so psychedelics. Things like occult ritual, let's say, for
- [39:19]
Podcast Host
example, let's dive into that.
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Morgue
Yeah, so you could. Yeah, so occult ritual. So occult ritual is basically communicating with your unconscious in a symbolic way. And so you may do certain things. Like. I'll give, I'll give the classic example. One of the first things that you learn, if you're wanting to learn a cult ritual, is something called the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram. And basically what you do is you, long story short, you draw in your mind's eye pentagrams in the four cardinal directions and then you invoke the four archangels. But what you're really doing is when you start looking at the symbolism of all this is that each direction means something, each archangel means something. They're tied to the four elements. For example, so in the east is air, in the south is fire. In the west is water, in the north is earth, and all that. And so what these things represent is air represents intellect. Water represents emotion and intuition. Fire represents willpower. Earth represents groundedness and stability. And so what you're doing is that particular ritual. The point of it is to partition your mind into like, four major categories and then sort of clear it out. Like, like clear out all the, the noise of your thoughts that might be, you know, impeding you or certain, you know, the fiery will desires that might be distracting you or things to clear your, your, your unconscious through the water. And you, you engage in this, in this ritualistic symbolism for the purpose of the. Because your unconscious doesn't communicate in language. If you just sit there and think, well, I'm going to clear my mind and I'm going to. I mean, sure, that can help, but you're getting your unconscious to all. You're, you're talking to it and you're like, hey, this is what we're going to do. And then it helps you sort of in the background, it's kind of like learning how to, how to hack your mind, you know, through, through symbols.
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Podcast Host
So you're like hacking your subconscious.
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Morgue
Yes. 100. That's what, that's what's going on.
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Podcast Host
Thoughts or 90 something like that.
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Morgue
I don't know the exact statistic but it's vastly Overwhelming. Overwhelming year.
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Podcast Host
95 of your daily actions are done through your subconscious.
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Morgue
It's a very high number.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. Which people don't realize. They think they do everything that they're.
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Morgue
No consciousness is just this. I mean it's usually the iceberg. Iceberg metaphor is given the, the little tip that you see is consciousness and the rest of the huge portion underneath that's the unconscious. And we are mostly controlled by unconscious forces. And you know, who knows how to manipulate that real well people in. They, they know that. They know that people aren't going to be persuaded by arguments or whatever. They have to tap into the like the reptilian brain, the, the autonomic fight or flight. That's why there's so much fear, division, hate. Because the. It puts humanity in a trauma response and then they're gonna do whatever someone says. So. Yeah. People know about that.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
They crushed it during COVID Oh yeah.
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Morgue
I mean just throughout history time and time again.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. I mean Covid. They got so many people on that getting the vaccine and all that.
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Morgue
Yeah. I mean I don't know too much about that again to be able to say one way or another.
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Podcast Host
But you know, I mean I. My point is like they put everyone in a fear state.
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Morgue
Oh, 100% definitely a fear state. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
And that's what they want. And it's going to happen again. Right. You.
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Morgue
I mean we're constantly in, in you know, just look at everything that happens on a day to day basis.
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Podcast Host
Stuff with the files with who knows what's next.
- [42:36]
Morgue
Oh, it's insane. And that's very traumatic for the psyche and it starts to break down the psyche and I sure that they realize that and will use it to their advantage.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
I think it causes aging too.
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Morgue
I, I would, I would agree.
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Podcast Host
The lifespan's going down right now.
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Morgue
Is it really?
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Podcast Host
Yeah, it's 71 as males in the US right now.
- [42:51]
Morgue
What was it before?
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Podcast Host
I think it was at all time high. 74.
- [42:56]
Morgue
Oh wow. Dropped a couple years. Oh wow. I was just.
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Podcast Host
In the past five, ten years it dropped.
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Morgue
Damn. That's, that's, that's a lot for a couple years.
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Podcast Host
That means it could be going to the 60s soon. Isn't that scary? That's a very.
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Morgue
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
- [43:06]
Morgue
I, I didn't know that.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. That's nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Well, dude, this was. This was really fun. Are you working on any projects? Any. Any books or anything coming out soon?
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Morgue
Yeah, I'm actually working on a couple books right now. I'm in the process of writing them and I think people are gonna really like them, especially if they like what I talk about and want to know more about this stuff. Like, want to read certain things for themselves and figure out where all this stuff comes from. It's going to be something that's very important for people to read.
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Podcast Host
Cool. We'll link your YouTube and your. You sell them on Amazon or.
- [43:35]
Morgue
Those particular ones aren't out yet. I do have other books, though, that I can link you.
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Podcast Host
Oh, yeah, we'll link it below. Anything else you want to close Paramount?
- [43:43]
Morgue
Let's see. I mean, as always, I think that it's really important to always be working on yourself and have the power to transform yourself so that you have the capacity to help others as well. I think a lot of people sometimes don't realize that helping yourself is the first step. They think it's like, sort of selfish or something. But you need to be able to do that. You need to be in the right state of mind. You need to be healthy, you need to be financially secure. You need all these different aspects to be able to be in a place we are able to help others. And that's the important thing is to realize that, like, all the powers with you, like, you have the power. Everyone watching this has the power. It's just the. Do you have the capacity to tap into it?
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Podcast Host
Right.
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Morgue
Yeah. I love that.
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Podcast Host
Thanks for. Thanks for your time, man.
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Morgue
Absolutely. Thanks for having me.
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Podcast Host
Appreciate it. Yeah, check them out, guys. Have a good one. Thanks for staying all the way to the end, guys. It means a lot to me. If you could please leave a review on Apple. That helps us climb the charts. It helps us get way more guests, and it helps us continue growing the podcast and the team. So it would mean a lot to me if you left a review on Apple or wherever else you're listening. Thanks so much.