Older Millennial: The RNC's Social Media Problem: Why Conservatives Struggle Online | DSH #1483

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Older Millennial: The RNC's Social Media Problem: Why Conservatives Struggle Online | DSH #1483
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: The Older Millennial
Date: August 8, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly sits down with "The Older Millennial" at the Student Action Summit for a candid and wide-ranging conversation about why conservatives struggle on social media, the evolving generational divide in politics, and pressing issues facing America today. From cancel culture to immigration, from the conservative movement’s lackluster digital strategy to the state of U.S. foreign policy, the discussion is lively, unfiltered, and often humorous.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Personal Political Journeys and Ideological Shifts

• The Older Millennial describes not growing up politically conservative, echoing the adage, “If you’re not liberal in your 20s, you don’t have a heart. If you’re not conservative in your 30s, you don’t have a brain.” (01:53)

  • “I just didn’t care. … And then it kind of smacks you in the face.” (02:05)

• Describes evolving views on issues like abortion, shifting from “I don’t care” pro-choice to pro-life after direct conversations and research. (08:21)

  “I was convinced to be pro-life. … If somebody’s got a good argument, I want to hear it.”
  — The Older Millennial [08:36]

2. Conservatives’ Online Struggles & Social Media Bans

• Conservative creators face outsized challenges on platforms, with the guest claiming to have been banned on TikTok 66 times before finally getting verified.

  “I’m on my 67th account. … I’ve had more than a million followers 20 times.”
  — The Older Millennial [22:33]

• The RNC’s dated, ineffective approach to social media is critiqued:

  “They are all—they don’t understand how it works. … The left crushes it.”
  — Sean Kelly [22:21]

• Left-leaning creators have more support and fewer bans compared to conservative voices, contributing to a digital imbalance.

3. Shifting Youth Political Trends

• Noted that today’s young generation is trending conservative due, in part, to early exposure to adult challenges and feeling alienated or blamed by left-wing narratives.

  “You become conservative when the real world hits you … they’re having to grow up a lot faster, [and] become conservative a lot faster.”
  — The Older Millennial [03:52]

• The perception that the left no longer appeals to young people by being the “party of rules and regulations.” (04:10)

4. Immigration, National Identity, and Assimilation

• Skepticism of modern U.S. immigration policy:

  “It was a strength when you were bringing people in who wanted to be Americans. … Now … they just want the benefits while repping their culture.”
  — The Older Millennial [02:19]

• The importance of prioritizing American identity over hyphenated identities is emphasized:

  “We’re the only country in the world that hyphenates. … Why would you be an African-American? Just be an American.”
  — The Older Millennial [03:22]

5. Critiques of the Political Left and Cancel Culture

• Claims the left resorts to personal attacks rather than policy debate.

  “When they bring personal into debates, … you’re losing when you do that.”
  — Sean Kelly [01:36]

  “They don’t have valid political arguments. They have insults and hatred.”
  — The Older Millennial [01:41]

• On cancellation and apology culture:

  “On the left, if you say something that offends people … now you’re left out in the cold. … You can never be woke enough.”
  — The Older Millennial [05:27], [05:44]

• Conservative influencers characterized as more ideologically committed but financially unsupported:

  “Every conservative influencer I know is struggling moneywise.”
  — Sean Kelly [22:01]

6. On Foreign Policy and America First

• Strong critique of U.S. involvement abroad and provision of foreign aid.

  “America has a weird FOMO with everything else in the world. … We’re not focused on America.”
  — The Older Millennial [12:03], [12:41]

• Cites the irony of “America First” being controversial, while other leaders (Macron, etc.) operate similarly for their nations.

  “Saying you’re America first doesn’t mean you hate the world. … Make your own bed, clean your own room before you try to save the world.”
  — The Older Millennial [12:58]

7. Economics, Capitalism, and Industry Capture

• Open defense of meritocracy and capitalism, skepticism of socialism.

  “You can’t have equality of outcome without equality of effort, and you’re never going to have that.”
  — The Older Millennial [14:38]

• Criticizes industry consolidation, e.g., Big Food, Big Pharma, Visa/MasterCard:

  “They might as well be a monopoly. … Power is so centralized right now … you have an oligarchy at that point.”
  — The Older Millennial [15:12], [15:46]

• Cites excessive interchange fees and lack of congressional will to change:

  “Congress isn’t interested in changing. … Did this benefit Congress? Yes, that’s why they did it.”
  — The Older Millennial [17:52], [18:05]

8. Government Reform, Corruption, Influence

• Outlines ideas for Congressional reform: term limits, salary tied to state median income, remote work for legislators.

  “Being in Congress shouldn’t be a career. It should be a service that you give.”
  — The Older Millennial [18:12]

  “Everybody in Congress should be paid the median salary of the state they represent.”
  — The Older Millennial [18:38]

• Wants to ban corporate and personal donations to political candidates.

  “Every candidate for office should have a set amount of money that they can spend, and there should be no donations.”
  — The Older Millennial [19:51]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-------------|--------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:53 | The Older Millennial | “If you’re not liberal in your 20s, you don’t have a heart. If you’re not conservative in your 30s, you don’t have a brain.” | | 03:52 | The Older Millennial | “You become conservative when the real world hits you … they’re having to grow up faster.” | | 05:27 | The Older Millennial | “On the left, if you say something that offends people … now you’re left out in the cold.” | | 08:36 | The Older Millennial | “I was convinced to be pro-life. … If somebody’s got a good argument, I want to hear it.” | | 12:03 | The Older Millennial | “America has a weird FOMO with everything else in the world. … We’re not focused on America.” | | 14:38 | The Older Millennial | “You can’t have equality of outcome without equality of effort, and you’re never going to have that.” | | 18:38 | The Older Millennial | “Everybody in Congress should be paid the median salary of the state they represent.” | | 22:33 | The Older Millennial | “I’m on my 67th account. … I’ve had more than a million followers 20 times.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Immigration & National Identity: 02:12 – 03:27
• Youth Trends & Party Image: 03:27 – 04:25
• Social Media and Conservative Struggles: 22:21 – 23:02
• Congress Reform Proposals: 18:12 – 19:46
• Industry Consolidation & Credit Card Monopoly: 15:12 – 16:27
• On Foreign Aid and U.S. Involvement: 12:03 – 14:29

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Conclusion

A frank and engaging discussion, this episode explores the challenges faced by conservative voices online, the philosophical rift between young Americans and establishment politics, and offers specific critiques on government, media, and the conservative movement’s missteps in digital outreach. Whether or not one agrees with the guest’s views, the conversation is packed with insights and provocative takes on politics, media, and the future of American conservatism.

Transcript

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[The Older Millennial]

And I'm. I'm. I'm not one of those people who's like, oh, you shouldn't be allowed to have a high interest rate. Like, look, if your credit history sucks, did you get a higher interest rate? That's on you.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Like, it's your. It's your fault for taking the loan. I'm 100% in favor of that, but you got to get the predatory stuff out of there. You know, it's just. It allows them to target.

I don't want to say stupid people, but. Stupid people.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay, guys, we got the older millennial. Here we are at Student Action Summit. How's the. How's the event been for you?

[The Older Millennial]

It's weird being in a place where everyone agrees. I'm used to everybody fighting me on everything.

[Sean Kelly]

I've been getting an attack lately online. Huh.

[The Older Millennial]

It's been. It's been an interesting couple weeks, man.

[Sean Kelly]

I saw you made a whole video describing the breakdown.

[The Older Millennial]

It was just. It's. It shows that the other side has a level of. There. There's really no. Nothing they won't do. Right. Which is wild to me because we're. We're just having a political discussion, and they take it personal.

[Sean Kelly]

When they bring personal into debates, it. In my eyes, you're losing when you do that.

[The Older Millennial]

100. I mean, it's ad hominem attacks and all that stuff, and. But the thing is, they don't have valid political arguments. They have insults and hatred. Never going to win.

[Sean Kelly]

Have you always been conservative growing up?

[The Older Millennial]

No. I mean, there was always the joke that people said, if you're not Liberal in your 20s, you don't have a heart. If you're not liberal. If you're not conservative in your 30s, you don't have a brain. So I grew up pretty. I wouldn't say I was conservative. I just didn't care.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[The Older Millennial]

You know, you get. You get that idea of, like, I don't care what's happening in the political world, and life is going to Be fine. And then it kind of smacks you in the face.

[Sean Kelly]

Absolutely. Now, immigration. So you have an interesting take on immigration. So you used to think it was a good thing, and now you're not a fan of it.

[The Older Millennial]

No, I. It's. People always say that, like, immigration is a strength or, you know, and I think we've kind of gone beyond that because it was a strength when you were bringing people in who wanted to be Americans. And now I think people are coming here, they don't want to be Americans. They just want the benefits of America while representing their culture. And it's fine to keep your own culture. Like, even, you know, my mother, she's not. It wasn't American, but it's. She wanted to be an American. Like, that's the biggest thing, right?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Both my parents were immigrants, and I feel like that was the heyday, Right?

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Now it's like.

[The Older Millennial]

Well, now you just get. I mean, like, there's the reality of if you import the third World, you become the third World. And I don't think we're. We're going after the best anymore. And I think there just has to be some rules, and we're just not having any rules.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Because at the current rate, I've seen stats of, like, the white population percentage over time, and we're going to be the minority in, like, certain amount of years, I believe.

[The Older Millennial]

But I'd be perfectly fine with white people by being the minority. It's. It's. It's about the type of person, not the color of the person. Like, if you want to come here and you want to be an American, regardless of what color you are, be an American. You know, we're the only country in the world that hyphenates.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

It's like, why would you be an African American? Just be an American. Yeah, yeah. You. You make yourself lesser when you hyphenate.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a good point. That's a very good point. The left has no argument to win the youth. So you believe the young vote is going more towards the right these days?

[The Older Millennial]

Well, they talk about how the youth now is more conservative than ever before. And I think the reason for that is because I think you become conservative when the real world hits you. Like when you got to start paying bills, you start doing stuff like that. And I think that the real world is hitting young people a lot faster than it did for even our generation.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So they're having to grow up a lot faster, having to become conservative a lot faster. And there's no argument on the left for them to go to. I mean they're, especially if you're a young man, you know, everything is your fault. So how does that win? You're never going to win somebody if you blame everything on them.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

And I don't think young people feel heard on the left. I think they feel talked down to. And like Democrats used to be the fun party, they used to be the cool people and now they're the party of rules and regulations of what you can say, what you can do. That's never going to appeal to young people.

[Sean Kelly]

100.

[The Older Millennial]

Nobody here wants to be told what to do. They just want to be told, you know, what the best things are to do. And hopefully they get guided to do those things.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. The young men I see on the left, I'm not, I'm not too impressed with them.

[The Older Millennial]

Like Harry, man is a hell of a term.

[Sean Kelly]

I'm not like, like, I'll, I'll agree rarely with things they're saying, to be honest. Like.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah, I mean, well, that's the same thing. Like if Dean is your image, somebody like Dean or Parker is your image of what you should grow up to be. That's a sad image. That's a sad image for our future. I don't want to meet men who aspire to be like Dean.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[The Older Millennial]

Or Parker and, and everybody. And they even have their bad stuff in their past. But who they are today is not what men should aspire to be. And I'm not saying I'm a great example. I'm saying that people like Charlie or, you know, people like Russell Brand, like people that are out here willing to say the things they believe in and willing to be assertive about it. That's who you should aspire to be. Because even if you have dumb ideas, be loud about it and be assured of your ideas.

[Sean Kelly]

Own up to it.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. They just teach you to say what people want to hear.

[Sean Kelly]

Well, Dean's making an apology video every week at this point. Like, those never work out.

[The Older Millennial]

Well, that's the thing on the left is that you can never be woke enough. You can never be liberal enough. You're always going to like, the benefit is I can say something offensive and people can go, well, he's saying what he thinks. But on the left, if you say something that offends people, that now you're, you're, you know, left out in the cold.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So you can never be woke enough. So it's, it's scary to be on that side.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. And I saw you tweet that there's nothing Trump could do to make liberals happy.

[The Older Millennial]

There's nothing because like I said in the video, it was like if the stock market goes up, it's because he's helping rich people. The stock market goes down is because he doesn't know how to manage an economy. It's the same thing on every issue. It's, you know, it's, you know, Gad said.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So he talked about how the only way something could be true is if there's a way to prove it wrong. And there's no way. There's no argument where you can make a liberal like Trump because like if he cured cancer, they'd complain about all the, all the out of work oncologists. So it's like there's, there's nothing he can do. So it's. But the benefit is if there's nothing you can do to make him happy, you don't have to care about their criticism because you'll never get their praise.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that's a tough spot to be in, huh?

[The Older Millennial]

I think, I think most of us conservative creators on all the platforms, we recognize that.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. You've accepted at this point.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. It's, it's a volume of hate you just have to deal with.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. I'm sure in your earlier days you tried to convince them to change, but at this point you're like, screw it.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. Now it's just about educating. Like when I make a video stitching Dean, I'm not talking to Dean. I'm talking to the people who might have questions about what Dean's saying. And I can open a conversation with them because those people are so committed to being, you know, people like Dean, Parker, Harry, they're so committed to their ideology that they don't want to have a conversation. They just want to win.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

And so have the conversation. Let the good ideas win. They don't want to do that.

[Sean Kelly]

Is there anyone on the left you think you could have some middle ground with, like someone like Destiny or.

[The Older Millennial]

So the problem with Destiny is I always thought like he's a fast talking, great debater, but his personal issues kind of removed me from wanting to have a conversation with him because I was asked to debate him, but his. With that stuff going on and I don't want to, that's a legal thing. But it's just you can't co sign a person like that. But I mean, I'm, I'm always down for having a conversation with anyone. I've talked to Parker, Dean, Harry, so many people on the left. Because the conversations need to be had. So there's nobody I won't talk to.

[Sean Kelly]

Really?

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

All right, guys, Sean Kelly here, host.

[Digital Social Hour Host]

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[Sean Kelly]

Sponsor these episodes, but also I took them before filming. Each day felt amazing. Just filmed 20 episodes straight and I'm not even tired, honestly. So I would say they're very unique. It's going to be the future of health and medicine.

[Digital Social Hour Host]

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[The Older Millennial]

Feel the drop and go code yourself.

I'll talk to anyone.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah, why not? What? The worst thing that happens is they convince me of something. And that's fine. If you convince me with facts, I'll be on your side.

[Sean Kelly]

How's that happen to you?

[The Older Millennial]

When it comes to, like a good example, I, I was pro choice. I was more like, I don't care type of pro choice. And I sat down with a lot of, a lot of Christian conservatives, a lot of pro life people, talked to people at abortion clinics and did my research, and I was convinced to be pro life.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[The Older Millennial]

So. And that happened probably about six months to a year ago. And so, yeah, I'm willing to be convinced. If somebody's got a good argument, I want to hear it.

[Sean Kelly]

Will Zoran Mamdani convince you to vote for him?

[The Older Millennial]

The problem with Zoran Momdani, because, like, socialism never works. It's never worked. But the whole idea is, I mean, you're talking about a guy who.

Didn'T have a real job till he's 29. He was a SoundCloud rapper named Mr. Cardamom, and he went on all his mother's money, all her capitalist money, and has a 10 million dollar trust fund and had a huge wedding in Dubai. That's not a socialist. That's somebody who has enough money that they can live comfortably while taken away from other people. And, and government owning grocery stores and stuff like that's not a realistic idea. Or taxing the millionaires. More like, I'm all fine with rich people paying taxes, but you're, you're already the highest tax state and you're going to tax the rich people who have the ability to move more when they can just move across. They can go to Pennsylvania or they can go to New Jersey. Like, that's just a dumb idea. Right? There's better ways to do things.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you like where taxes are at now? Do you want them lowered or do you want them raised?

[The Older Millennial]

So I do like the reinstitution of the 2017 tax cuts because, like, for me, it made me pay more because I was a high earner at the time, so I paid more in taxes, but it balanced it out really well.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So, like, I'm fine with taxes being higher. I just. It matters where you're spending the money. If you're going to keep spending like they are. I don't want taxes higher. But if you're going to cut the. Cut the crap and actually spend it on things that matter, okay, I'm all for it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I agree.

[The Older Millennial]

I care about where you spend the money, not how much money you take. For me.

[Sean Kelly]

Right. Doge sounded good at first. Doesn't look like it's panning out, but.

[The Older Millennial]

I think it was. I think it was too much about the flash instead of the practical application. It should have been. It should have been the work done. And there should have been a, you know, a daily report of this is what we're going after and actually sit down and convince people of it. It was just flash of like, oh, we saved 190 million. It's like, that's not a real number to people. Show me what you cut. Don't just tell me the number. And I, I think as much as I like Elon, I think when it comes to social issues or communicating with people, he's terrible.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

And so that can't be your spokesperson. Like, that can't be the person that communicates with everyone. Just let him be rich. Let him do things, bring in people who actually know how to talk to people.

[Sean Kelly]

You think him and Trump will ever make up?

[The Older Millennial]

I think rich people are always going to get along. They're never like. Like Trump and Hillary and, like, they. They're obviously all okay with each other. They hang out together. It's. They go to dinners and stuff. It's. They don't really hate each other. Rich people don't actually hate each other. They just. They play it for show.

[Sean Kelly]

You think so?

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah, I. I do. Do. I think they're actually having a problem with each other? Probably on some petty level?

[Sean Kelly]

The Epstein stuff seemed to just.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah, but I mean, it's. They're both petty. I mean, Trump is. Is a master of being petty, and Elon is getting very good at it. So I don't think there's actual beef. I just think there's a bunch of talking.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Where are you out on this whole Epstein thing? That's what everyone's talking about.

[The Older Millennial]

If Pam Bonnie. If Pam Bonnie doesn't deliver, she's got to go. Think so she got to get rid of. Because now I'm hearing talk that there's other people that'll say they'll leave if she doesn't leave. Dan and Cash can't lose Dan and Cash. So I. But, like. And I'm. And I was a huge Pan Bonnie fan because I live in Florida, but she's not delivering. And I. I don't support Trump and the Republicans. I support candidates. I support politicians who do what they say they're going to do. If she's not going to do that, she's got to go. It's that simple.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Bring in somebody who will do what you said you're going to do and I'll be happy with them.

[Sean Kelly]

What do you think the most pressing issue is right now?

[The Older Millennial]

In America, in the country, Our involvement around the world. Just feeling like we need to participate in everything. It's like America has like a weird FOMO with everything else in the world. It's like, just let the world do what it's doing and, you know, we can help where we can. But starting to send weapons back to Ukraine is insane. You know, getting involved in other conflicts is nuts. It's just, it's. It just none of it makes any sense stuff. But I would. That's my biggest concern is we're not focused on America. Like, if we're going to make America great again, you. You have to focus on America. It's. It's just be like if you were saying, I'm going to make my show great and all you did was focus on other people's shows, it's not going to help.

[Sean Kelly]

It's ironic.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

It's so weird to me that saying you're America first these days is a hot take.

[The Older Millennial]

It's the weird thing is that people act like. Like Macron is France first.

[Sean Kelly]

He does.

[The Older Millennial]

Just doesn't say it out loud. But every president, every person in a country should be for their country first.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[The Older Millennial]

There's nothing wrong with that. Like, it. Saying you're America first doesn't mean you hate the world. It just means that you want, you know, you're going to like. What was it Jordan Peterson said? His book make your make your own bed, clean your own room before you try to save the world. And that's what we have to do.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

You can't be. What, how much. How many trillions are we in debt now?

[Sean Kelly]

I don't even want to know at this point.

[The Older Millennial]

It's insane to borrow money to give to someone else. Yeah, that's. It's just. It's so dumb.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you see any room for foreign aid at, like, in any situation?

[The Older Millennial]

Well, I think for me, yes, I think there is room for foreign aid. But for me, I'm. I would be in favor of saying we're going to take a year with none.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[The Older Millennial]

And then let countries fail where they fail. Let other countries step up, you know, like there. I don't. I think if we cut off funding to, say, Rwanda. Right. There are other countries in the world that'll help. And I think we just need to step aside and let other countries do that.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

There's no reason we should be bankrolling the planet. Just doesn't. It's. I'm totally happy to help, but I think we need to take some time to not.

[Sean Kelly]

I think we're spreading ourselves too thin. Right. I get it, though, because China's acquiring a lot of countries and alliances. Right?

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. But the thing is with China, like, China's not a military threat to the US they may be an economic threat. Right. And. But the way they become an economic threat to us is they've embraced capitalism. Like, I've worked with my prior job, I worked with Chinese companies bringing their products into US Distribution. That's what I did for a living.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

And the way they've succeeded is through capitalism. And for some reason we can. The American people can see China succeeding that way and then, like, want socialism. It's like you. We saw what socialism did to China for decades.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

And they go to capitalism. It works. But now you want to get away from that. Like, it's like, find what works and stop doing it somehow. It's weird.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. You're a big capitalist.

[The Older Millennial]

Oh, absolutely. 100%. I believe in 100% meritocracy. If. If you can succeed because you want to. Cool. If you can't have equality of outcome without equality of effort, and you're never going to have that. So you can't have everybody have the. Everybody win.

[Sean Kelly]

What about the big industries, like big food, big pharma?

[The Older Millennial]

Well, I love that RFK is attacking that. I think he's just. I think he's very slow at it, but he understands the political process. But I mean, they're. Obviously, we've allowed monopolies to happen. Like these companies, even though they're not the same company. Like all the food companies. They're not a monopoly, but they all work together.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So they might as well be a monopoly or Google to have the power it has. Or, you know, it's just power is so centralized right now that you can't have, like, there's a great example is the credit card industry. For instance, you got MasterCard and Visa represent. What is it, 82% of all the swipe. So. And they're trying to pass the ccca, but somehow they're able to. Even though it's a bipartisan bill, MasterCard and Visa have enough power to not get it done it. So if you.

[Digital Social Hour Host]

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[Sean Kelly]

Thank you.

[The Older Millennial]

You have that power over our politicians to tell them you're not going to pass this bill, then we don't really have a democracy. We don't have a republic. You have, you have a oligarchy at that point.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. And speaking of credit cards, I was watching Tucker last night. He was saying some of them are charging 30 interest. Is that.

[The Older Millennial]

Well, you look at, you look at. Visa has 54% profit margin. MasterCard is 52.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[The Older Millennial]

And so. And their swipe fees, they represent 82% of the swipe fees. I think last year alone, it was like $47 billion in swipe fees.

[Sean Kelly]

Geez.

[The Older Millennial]

So it's insanity. It's. There's, there's such predatory. And, And I'm, I'm, I'm not one of those people who's like, oh, you shouldn't be allowed to have a high interest rate. Like, look, if your credit history sucks, did you get a high interest rate that's on you.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Like, it's your, it's your fault for taking the loan. I'm 100% in favor of that, but you got to get the predatory stuff out of there. You know, it's just it there. It allows them to target. I don't, I don't want to say stupid people, but. Stupid people.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

You know, and that's, that's. We got to protect those people.

[Sean Kelly]

It is nuts when you think about it, though, because as an online merchant, and you've sold stuff online too, like that 3% fee, it really adds up over time. Like, we probably paid six, seven figures just in fees.

[The Older Millennial]

Easy, easy. And that's the thing is most, most businesses, like, if you want to make things more affordable, you allow competition in the marketplace. It's the way to make anything better. And for some reason, when it comes to swipe fees, we're just like, no, we don't need competition.

[Sean Kelly]

And no one thinks about it either. They've done very well at, like, subtly just throwing it in there without.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. Because it's just an accepted thing now. You know, it's like people just, they don't even see the fee anymore. And it's just, I think you should have to talk about the swipe fee. Like, if you're going to, there should be a big sign saying swipe fee.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

You should not be able to get away with that.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, they should be like, honestly, I had Gary Cardone on yesterday and he owns like a card company. He was saying it should be like $0.02 per per swipe. That's what it should be.

[The Older Millennial]

And they would still make a ton of money.

[Sean Kelly]

They would still make a lot, a lot less.

[The Older Millennial]

But yeah, it shouldn't be a percentage. It should be a flat fee. This way everybody knows what they're paying. Whether you buy a boat or a soda, you're paying the same.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Like, imagine if it was just a nickel or 10 cents, whatever. Like, it'd be amazing.

[The Older Millennial]

They'd still be, they'd still make more money than they need to.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. You think we'll ever get to that point or you think not as much.

[The Older Millennial]

Power, not a change? No, Congress isn't interested in changing. Like, people always, people are always like, why did Congress do this? I don't understand this. And I always tell them, I said, don't look at it as to why would they do that to the American people. Look at it as to how it benefits them.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[The Older Millennial]

And the answer will always be yes. Did this benefit Congress? Yes, that's why they did it.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you have a better alternative to Congress or something?

[The Older Millennial]

No. I mean, the system that we designed is as good as it's going to get. The problem is, you know, you, you, you need to, you need to revamp it in the sense that one, you need term limits. You, this shouldn't be a career. Being in Congress shouldn't be a career. It should be a service that you give. And also if you want to get the right people in there, you, my, my idea was to, everybody in Congress should be paid the median salary of the state they represent. So if you're representing Ohio, the median salary are 52,000. That's what you make. Right this way. Now you're incentivized to raise the standard of living in your state. You shouldn't be at a state where they make 50 grand a year and you're making 172 grand.

[Sean Kelly]

Right. Because they all make the same.

[The Older Millennial]

Right, exactly. Yeah. And so they're not incentivized to help their state. Right. They're incentivized to help Themselves. So put it in a way. And also, I don't even understand why we still go to Congress. It's 2025. We can just zoom all this. Stay in your home state, work for your people, don't come to Washington. There's no reason for you to be there.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[The Older Millennial]

It's just Congress is. They, they, they forgot they work for the people.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. And that's how the bubble forms. And then they get out of touch with reality too, when they're in D.C. all the.

[The Older Millennial]

But you could see how disappointing some people are. Like Dan Crenshaw, for instance.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So high hopes for him coming out as a seal. And then he just showed himself to like he was a Harvard seal and he. We were hoping he was a lot of SEAL and a little Harvard.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Now he's a lot of Harvard and a little seal. You know, it's like, you know, it's. I, you know, like the guy, he's, you know, I'm so glad he served as well, but he's just not what we expected to be. Nobody is. When they get in there, it's what does they say Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Once you get that power, it's hard not to be corrupt.

[Sean Kelly]

What about big companies being allowed to donate to people in Congress?

[The Older Millennial]

I'm against it completely. Yeah. Every candidate for office should have a set amount of money that they can spend and there should be no donations. People shouldn't be able to donate. Companies should be able to donate. Just say you're going to run for office. You have a hundred thousand dollars of public money to run your campaign. And before the campaign, everybody should just fill out a questionnaire where you have to answer everything yes or no. You can't talk your way out of stuff. You have to answer this way. People can just call it up and call you on your bs. Yeah, it's like. But yeah, get the money out of it. It's like if somebody offers you a million dollars to do a show with somebody you hate, it's hard not to.

[Sean Kelly]

It's hard.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

I mean it's like I would probably do it honestly.

[The Older Millennial]

Like we all, we all have a price. I tell People got mad at me online because I was like, everybody has a price, you know, like, because people said if somebody offered you a bunch of money to talk for Kamala, would you. And I said it would have been. It would have to be a lot of money. But yes, there is a.

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[The Older Millennial]

Price? Yeah. Like everybody's buyable.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a hot take. But it's, it's accurate. Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Anybody who's like, if you offered me a hundred million dollars to support Kamala Harris, would I want to. No. Would it be. Would I have to stew on it a lot? Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Like it's, it's a reality. It's an economic risk.

[Sean Kelly]

It's life changing. Money.

[The Older Millennial]

Exactly.

[Sean Kelly]

At the end of the day, money is very important in today's world.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. It's just a reality. And it's like as much as I want to be ideological, I have to be practical as well.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

So. But the benefit for me on the conservative side is nobody offers us money.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

Nobody pays us to make.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a good point.

[The Older Millennial]

Yeah. We got no money in it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. We don't got that DNC money and.

[The Older Millennial]

We destroy each other when we do. Because like there was recently a company that came out and started doing help trying to make conservative campaigns and the minute any conservative influencer made a video about it, they were called out and were attacking Soda thing. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

It was insane. It was like we're destroying each other and. But that's how, but that's how ideological we are.

[Sean Kelly]

And I love that Every conservative influencer I know is struggling money wise. Yeah. It's, it's tough out here.

[The Older Millennial]

There's no, there's no sponsorships, there's no brand. I mean there are some little ones, but generally we have to support each other.

[Sean Kelly]

Yep.

[The Older Millennial]

You know, that's really. We have to be there for each other and like, you know that there's nobody there to help us out. I think the RNC is really terrible on social media.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

They are all. They don't understand how it works.

[Sean Kelly]

They need to hire some young guy that can just because I, I'll admit on Tick Tock that the left crushes it.

[The Older Millennial]

Oh, they're. Yeah, they're destroying us.

[Sean Kelly]

You're like the only one on the right. I know. On Tick Tock killing it because it's.

[The Older Millennial]

And the sad thing is I'm on my 67th account.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[The Older Millennial]

You know, I've been banned. I was banned 66 times. Finally they verified, actually.

[Sean Kelly]

66 times?

[The Older Millennial]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Holy crap.

[The Older Millennial]

So I've had more than a million followers. 20 times.

[Sean Kelly]

Gee.

[The Older Millennial]

I've had accounts. Generally my account would get to about 400,000 in about two months and it would get banned.

[Sean Kelly]

So you over and over and over and off. You didn't get.

[The Older Millennial]

Oh, I'd be great. Yeah. I mean, I had 2.7 million when I first started.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[The Older Millennial]

Then I got banned and then they just started. You know, every. Every time I got the 400,000, I'd be banned because it was ban evasion. Because I'd been banned the first time.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[The Older Millennial]

But luckily I did have a sit down with TikTok and they were way cooler than I thought they would be. And. And verified me. Got rid of all the fake accounts and now I'm a little protected. But, you know, I still have to stay within the guidelines. And look, some of the bands, I earned them. I'm not going to say I was, you know, I was a good kid, but a lot of them were just band evasion.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Well, thanks for coming on, man. Where can people find you?

[The Older Millennial]

You can find me on TikTok at the older, Millennial, on X at the same and Twitch Kick, all of that. So now I do this full time.

[Sean Kelly]

Awesome.

[The Older Millennial]

Quit my real job about a month ago. Since full time now.

[Sean Kelly]

Let's go, man. Thanks for coming on.

[The Older Millennial]

My pleasure, man.

[Sean Kelly]

Check them out, guys. PE.