Private Jets: The $100K Secret Most Entrepreneurs Miss | Sarah Naska DHS #977

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Episode: Private Jets: The $100K Secret Most Entrepreneurs Miss | Sarah Naska DHS #977
Release Date: December 13, 2024
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Sarah Marie

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Introduction and Background

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly welcomes Sarah Marie, a multifaceted entrepreneur specializing in real estate, finance, investments, and corporate aviation. Sarah shares her inspiring journey from Savannah, Georgia, to launching her brokerage in Los Angeles, highlighting the pivotal moments that shaped her career and personal growth.

Notable Quote:
"I work in real estate, finance, investments. I also have a brokerage, SMH Aviation for corporate aviation."
— Sarah Marie [02:03]

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Career in Aviation and Real Estate

Sarah delves into her foray into the aviation industry, describing it as a midlife pivot driven by a desire for travel and new challenges. She recounts her decade-long ascent from a flight attendant for private owners and charter companies to establishing her own brokerage, SMH Aviation. Her experience underscores the lucrative potential and extensive networking opportunities within the private aviation sector.

Notable Quotes:
"I worked myself up from the bottom up to management, and then elite clientele."
— Sarah Marie [02:05]

"A lot of cool stories, for sure."
— Sarah Marie [03:12]

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Personal Development and Relationships

The conversation shifts to Sarah's personal life, particularly her long-term marriage and subsequent divorce. She reflects on the importance of personal growth and setting boundaries, emphasizing how evolving beyond limiting beliefs has been crucial for her both professionally and personally.

Notable Quotes:
"I outgrew him for sure."
— Sarah Marie [14:44]

"Personal development is super important to relationships that are lasting."
— Sarah Marie [15:07]

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Spirituality and Church Experience

Sarah and Ryan discuss the role of the church in Sarah's life. Raised in a church by a single mother, Sarah later distanced herself from church organizations to focus on corporate America. She critically examines the parallels between churches and business corporations, addressing issues like financial management and abuse of power in mega churches. Despite her critiques, Sarah acknowledges the positive community impact of many churches.

Notable Quotes:
"The church is very similar to a business corporation."
— Sarah Marie [09:13]

"I am a firm believer in the organization of the church."
— Sarah Marie [11:15]

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Health Challenges and Resilience

Sarah opens up about her battle with cervical cancer, detailing her resilience and mindset in facing serious health issues. She discusses the emotional toll of cancer, her surgical experiences, and the importance of maintaining mental clarity and positivity through adversity.

Notable Quotes:
"This is an amazing. I have my amazing kids. I get to choose what I want to do and think."
— Sarah Marie [13:38]

"Life is the end goal. Quality of life."
— Sarah Marie [29:10]

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Networking and Business Strategies

Highlighting the significance of networking, Sarah explains how her work in private aviation has led to valuable connections and business opportunities. She emphasizes the importance of authentic relationships and maintaining a trusted inner circle to sustain and grow her ventures.

Notable Quotes:
"You have to trust people, you know, and you don't have enough margin or energy to give all of yourself to everybody."
— Sarah Marie [32:28]

"Keeping your circle small and boundaries strong are very important."
— Sarah Marie [33:12]

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Personal Interests and Hobbies

Beyond her professional life, Sarah shares her interests in personal development, murder mystery podcasts, and exploring new technologies like social media for business growth. She discusses her recent ventures into content creation for aviation and her plans to educate others about private aviation.

Notable Quotes:
"I'm really into, like, murder crime."
— Sarah Marie [43:36]

"Social media was not a thing when I was growing up. We had pagers."
— Sarah Marie [36:37]

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Closing Remarks

In the concluding segment, Sarah provides listeners with ways to connect with her, offering resources for women entrepreneurs and those interested in corporate aviation. She encourages aspiring entrepreneurs to reach out for support and guidance, reinforcing her commitment to empowering others in their professional journeys.

Notable Quote:
"I'm passionate about women entrepreneurship... DM Me Goals on Instagram."
— Sarah Marie [45:03]

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Key Takeaways

1. Diversification of Career Paths: Sarah's transition from finance and real estate to corporate aviation exemplifies the benefits of diversifying one's career to pursue passion and leverage new opportunities.

2. Importance of Personal Development: Continuous personal growth and setting boundaries are essential for maintaining healthy relationships and achieving business success.

3. Authentic Networking: Building and maintaining a trusted inner circle can significantly impact business growth and personal resilience.

4. Resilience in Adversity: Facing health challenges with a positive mindset and mental clarity can empower individuals to overcome significant life hurdles.

5. Empowerment of Women Entrepreneurs: Providing resources and support tailored to women can help dismantle long-standing barriers in entrepreneurship and finance.

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Connect with Sarah Marie:

• Website: sarahmarie.net
• Instagram: @sarahmarie.net
• For Women Entrepreneurs: DM "Goals" on Instagram
• For Corporate Aviation Inquiries: DM "jet" on Instagram

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Thank you for tuning into this episode of Digital Social Hour. Stay inspired and empowered on your entrepreneurial journey!

Transcript

[Sarah Marie]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

I wonder what causes there to be so much different.

[Sarah Marie]

Separation, man made rules, denominations. Right. Everybody kind of has their own spin. Their expression of worship is going to look very different, but then it kind of breaks down to what their fundamental beliefs are. We don't believe in praying in tongues or we don't believe in miracles for today or. And so they kind of pick and choose some things out of the Bible, what they do and don't agree with based on their personal experience.

[Ryan Reynolds]

All right guys, got Sarah here from la. You ready to do this thing? Let's do it. What you been up to lately?

[Sarah Marie]

Several things. Thanks for having me on your podcast. I'm super excited to be here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sure.

[Sarah Marie]

I just made the move out to L. A. So I'm coming from Savannah, Georgia.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, Big change.

[Sarah Marie]

Huge change. White knuckled an RV across the US out west with my kids and the dog to start a new brokerage out in Los Angeles, real estate. So I work in real estate, finance, investments. I also have a brokerage, SMH Aviation for corporate aviation.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That sounds cool. How'd you get into aviation?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, so that I got into Aviation about 10 years ago. It was kind of like a midlife Crisis in my mid-30s. I was like getting stir crazy wanting to travel a lot more. So I was like, what could I do? I was already working in finance, investments and real estate, state and executive leadership development. But I was like, what do I want to do? So I looked into kind of, like, what's the best way to make the most money and travel? So I looked into private aviation for flight attending, and I started doing flight attending for private owners and charter companies and traveled across the country, across the gr, across the globe, and internationally. So I just started my foot there. I worked myself up from. From management, from the bottom up to management, and then elite clientele. And then I decided to start my own brokerage after 10 years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Good for you. Started from the bottom.

[Sarah Marie]

Now we hear start from the bottom, go to the top. Yep.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's cool. Yeah, that's the cool thing about the aviation business. You get to travel the world.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, it was a really amazing experience. It's, you know, less than 1% get to experience that kind of lifestyle, and you get to see a lot. You get to experience a lot, and it was just really cool. A lot of cool stories, for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I bet. Yeah, we'll have to dive into some of those. What. What caused that midlife crisis, though, you mentioned?

[Sarah Marie]

I mean, I was just working a lot with pa Was doing a lot of church work, and I was just on my computer a lot working with people, and I just wanted to see the world. I grew up traveling, so I just really wanted to get out and do more. I'm a curious mind, so I kind of hit that stage. I was like, let's tackle a new project. Let's get new challenges going. And so, yeah, started out doing flight attending, and then I hit my kind of stride there for about 10 years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Was it a specific airline you started at?

[Sarah Marie]

So these were private owners and charter companies. So through aviation, you can hire a jet as a charter or a leaseback, and you can work that as a contract. So I did contract work, said yes or no to any flight that I wanted to do, and kind of just built up my clientele from there through aviation brokerages across the country or private owners that had a jet that wanted a flight.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Girl, I like that route. Yeah, I'd rather do that than work for commercial airlines.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I would not do commercial if my life depended on it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, no offense to those employees, but they don't look happy sometimes.

[Sarah Marie]

I personally couldn't deal with the anxiety of being on a plane like that. I don't even like traveling commercial, let alone wanting to work in it for my day job. So, yeah, that was the thought behind it. When I went private, I was like, I don't want to deal with chaos and craziness, but I want to make A lot of money, so I can invest it and then travel. And then in that, I just fell in love with aviation more and more. And the clientele kind of crossed over because I was working in finance and assets. So I just bring my computer, I talk to the clients on the plane. I would work on my investments. When I got to Hawaii, I'd sit for a week, make some good money.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What a great life.

[Sarah Marie]

So it was a good run for a lot of years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's so cool.

[Sarah Marie]

It was a good run.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm big on energy, and when I'm in an airport or, like, a public flight, it's like, yeah, really tough.

[Sarah Marie]

It's. It's terrible to have all your energy sucked by other people, and your mood is dictated by that. You're trying to work, trying to keep a clear head. It's private's the way to go.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. When I fly private or semi private, because I fly JSX a lot, it's like a way different vibe. It feels amazing. I actually look forward to the flight instead of, like, dreading it.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, JSX is a good. That's what, 30. 30 people on there?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it's super small, but it's, like, barely any more expensive than, like, a regular.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, that's the thing. There's a lot of opportunity in aviation. It's a lot more affordable than people think.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Absolutely.

[Sarah Marie]

And it's, you know, you're buying back your time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, yeah. And I'm sure you got to network with some amazing people while you're doing that.

[Sarah Marie]

Between the FBOs and on the. On the flights itself or the locations that you go, because you're an elite, you know, jet or elite clientele, you get a lot of exposure, a lot of networking is involved, and. Yeah. What's a private airport? Oh, yeah, the private airports are called FBOs.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got it. I didn't know that. Yeah, there's a couple.

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[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I remember right here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. F1 last year was completely full. You couldn't even land.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I actually came to. Not the Formula one, but I got to go to the Grand Prix or just I picked up some executives that were going down there taking clients down there. They had extra tickets. That was one of the job perks.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nice.

[Sarah Marie]

Hang out with the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, that's about us in the box.

[Sarah Marie]

And watch the Grand Prix. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What a time.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's so cool. You said you used to work at the church a little bit.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, So I did executive leadership development and I worked in. We had a church for 20 plus years. We did ministry. So. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You still doing that or.

[Sarah Marie]

No, No, I actually quit the church about a year ago, year and a half ago. Formally as a career and focused solely on corporate America.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got it.

[Sarah Marie]

Dabbling into both industries for 25 years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Was that a tough choice for you?

[Sarah Marie]

It was, but it was. There was a lot of tough choices around it. But leaving the organization of salary, church life, that I didn't. I don't miss that at all.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's my one qualm with churches actually.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

With like the payouts and stuff.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. So what is it that you. What is your. Just.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I hear these stories like these mega churches and how they're using the money and the owners are buying, like, expensive things or whatever. And it's like, I don't know. I'd love to hear your perspective on that if that happens.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. So in my perspective, I think that the church is very similar to a business corporation. You have to run it as such in the sense that you have to have overhead to supply everything that's going to go on and what you're doing. Most churches, if they're really functioning well, they're going to be doing a lot of community outreach and events. You need people that are willing to work 40, 50, 60 hours to do the grunt work of service, going into people's houses, cleaning for them, doing yard work, whether it's, you know, events that you put on. This takes hours of time, like you would expect for any other corporate, like, vendor to go to an air show. It takes hours and days and weeks to do a lot of this stuff. Planning for years. So it turns into a business because you need people to work it. And people can't live off of 20, 30, $40,000 a year anymore. And so the church is a nonprofit, so the nonprofit doesn't really bring in a lot of money. So then they're constantly trying to get donations. So there's obviously an abuse of power in a lot of churches and a lot of mega churches. And I've seen stuff, too, that makes me want to throw up. You know, I'm just like, yeah, thank God that I am not associating God with that kind of church, because that's not who God is. That's an expression of ego, excessiveness, maybe grandiose personalities or just, you know, gluttony, whether it's money or food or whatever it is. So I. I definitely can see why people would have, like, a thought about that in a negative way, because most people, when you see it, it's kind of gross. But ultimately, the people that are really doing a lot in the community, there's a lot of really good, solid churches that need money to support, like, communities and that can sit with people that are going through hard seasons, that need that pastoral care, the hospital visit. So I'm a firm believer in the organization of the church. I think it should be an expression of who you are as a person. And, you know, everybody's got to eat. So I think people should be fed and paid well if they're in service, because I don't think just because they're doing stuff, people don't want to do that it's not highly valuable, so I could see that. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I could definitely get behind that. I think the mega churches are where it gets a little extreme.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. And I think it's just more people, more money to manage and more opportunities to kind of, you know, take advantage of situations. But, yeah, ultimately it's just. It's just like anything else. You need money to pursue something that your vision is to go forward.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Absolutely. So church has been a big part of your life, growing up and everything too?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. I was raised in the church by a single mom, and she. She lived a radical life and she made a lot of radical choices. She actually left my dad when I was two from an abusive relationship. She had three kids under the age of eight and went to a women's house for abused women and children and troubled teens and left in the middle of the night. This is early 80s when there was no laws to protect against domestic abuse for a partner. So she. She didn't have any support or help. And so she went to a shelter. She started to rebuild her life. She stayed with family and friends, extended friends, and then decided to put herself through college. So I. I learned a lot about faith through my mom and through her life, and she raised me with my foundation of faith.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Humble beginnings.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, humble beginnings, for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I grew up in a single parent household too.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I hear a lot of guys talk about it. I've never heard a female actually talk about growing up in a single parent household.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I mean, she's obviously. She was my hero and she lived a beautiful life, and I can't imagine the stuff she had to go through in the season of life, in the economic times that she was in, in the governmental times she was in, and all the experiences that women dealt with prior to even today. There's so many things that women have been held back on. So I really highly respect her. I found myself too, in a single parent situation, which is something I never expected. I was married for 23 years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

And so now I'm kind of mirroring her life, which in itself is super weird to think about, but it's actually really beautiful and powerful because I took a lot of her life lessons and I don't look at it as like a hindrance or like a handicapped. I think I'm like, this is amazing. I have my amazing kids. I get to choose what I want to do and think how I want to think and lead my life and lead my kids into a legacy that I feel is lasting and powerful, and so I don't feel like it's a handicap for me. Clearly, I would love a male support.

[Ryan Reynolds]

They're important.

[Sarah Marie]

I think men and women are better together. 100. And I think a woman should not necessarily be doing it on her own. But if it comes down to it, I think there are choices that need to be made. And I think if it comes to that, then that's okay. And I feel. I feel really good about it. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. The other partner's not stepping up. It could actually be doing more harm than good. Right. So it depends on the situation.

[Sarah Marie]

100%. More damage can be done by staying than actually taking the leap of faith to leave.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I think a lot of people stay too long.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah. I think I stayed probably eight years too long.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Whoa. That's a long time.

[Sarah Marie]

Yep.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So you had the thought eight years prior.

[Sarah Marie]

I looked back through journals, and I had been writing the same feelings for about 12 to 15 years. When I packed up to move out west in LA, I thought, oh, my gosh, this is 2009. This is 2011. Um, so, yeah, I. I have endurance, so I'm pretty good at stuff.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I could tell.

[Sarah Marie]

So I endured a little bit in that marriage, and I'm sure he did too, because we were not compatible in the long run. A lot of. A lot of factors that play into that, but, yeah, definitely.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Do you think you were growing faster than. Than he was?

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yes. And that's actually a conversation we had years earlier, but, yeah, I outgrew him for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's common in relationships. One. One person's going a little quicker and the other one is comfortable at that stage. Right?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. It's easy to do when you divide and conquer and you build an empire together and you're like, oh, you do this, I'll do that, and let's come back in the middle. And that was kind of what we had done in that season. But, yeah, personal development is super important to relationships that are lasting. And if you get together super young in a relationship, like, I was 20, he was 19, and now I'm 44. I have a very different mindset on things at 44 than I did at 2100 based on life experience. So, yeah, I'm. I'm a firm believer in mental health and doing the inner work and doing the deep dive and so that you don't sabotage your relationships and you can build on what, you know, a lasting legacy. Build on love and life and.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And personal developments needed at every level. Some people think because they're super rich. They don't need it.

[Sarah Marie]

But, no, I think the richer you are, the more you need it, because you don't want to, you know, outgrow your wealth. You know, you don't want to be your own cap to your own ceiling. And, yeah, I agree. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I see a lot of people with big egos, and it's like, dude, that's going to ruin you in the long run.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. Pride comes before a fall, and the egomaniac or the ego that leads the way is definitely going to be the one that falls first.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. You got to keep it under control. And I feel it creeping up even to this day. It's something that's like, an ongoing thing.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, it is. And, like, this is a silly reference, but I was in, like, the Louis Vuitton store with a girlfriend. She was buying a gift for another friend, and I could feel this materialism thing just landed jumping on me, and I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I want this and I want that. I want this. And I started feeling this thing. And I'm in Vegas, and I'm like. And I'm like, I step out of the store, I'm like, holy cow, that was powerful. Obviously didn't buy anything, but I listened to my body of how I felt in the environment, and I was like, dang, there's some materialism going on here. This is crazy. Oh, any Vegas step out of that? Yeah, not just Vegas, any city, but the feeling of it, knowing that I don't usually want this stuff. Now I'm in here, I'm like, I want it. I want it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I mean, they got it down to a science with the lighting, the music, the smell.

[Sarah Marie]

Yes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The people in there and who you're with can also influence you. So they got it down.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Even gambling. They want you to gamble, and they'll get you on the tables.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. Definitely pulling at that moral compass. For sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I don't gamble.

[Sarah Marie]

I don't either. I like to invest my money. I don't like to spend it on things. But if it's an entertainment, you know, maybe you're at a slot machine or maybe you want to play blackjack or something. You have fifty hundred bucks. Whatever your entertainment budget, you can do it. But as a whole, I'm not into that kind of stuff.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's different. Yeah. What have you been investing in lately?

[Sarah Marie]

So crypto, obviously, has taken a massive jump.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Bitcoin's at 84, 000.

[Sarah Marie]

I am literally shocked. I was just texting my guy In Miami today.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I just sold online last week. I'm kind of upset, but.

[Sarah Marie]

No, that's why I was texting him. I should. I was like, I should have just held on.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, you sold.

[Sarah Marie]

I sold a lot over the last year and a half because it was cr. You know. You lost money, I lost money. And now that there's a new administration in there, I think it's going to look very different back to 2020 type of times, or before 2020 when we were trading, a lot better. So I think that's going to be a good thing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. If you could withhold that bear market that lasted two, three years. You're chilling right now A little bit.

[Sarah Marie]

A little bit still, but not what I had.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

But let's see. I'll log in and see what it's at.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We'll see what happens. This next bull run is going to be crazy. I think I'll hit 100k.

[Sarah Marie]

You think so?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. It's already at 84. Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

It's the highest it's ever been, Right?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Trump's not even in office yet, so.

[Sarah Marie]

I know this administration is going to do some wild things. Based on the. The world leaders that have joined on so far, it's pretty impressive to see the support that he's received from across the world.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Maybe not so much in our home country, but the average person, I think some people like and some people don't. But living in L. A, I get a little more of an earful.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. So I spoke at a church in LA a couple weeks ago. Spoke at Mosaic.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah. I was actually there.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, you were there?

[Sarah Marie]

I was in the audience. I signed up because they asked me to go to the leadership advance for the church because I go to Mosaic.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Sarah Marie]

That's where I go to church.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. So I went because you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's awesome.

[Sarah Marie]

Because of them.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Interesting audience for me, obviously, because that's a super liberal audience and, you know.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So just speaking there was interesting.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. How did you feel when you left?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Great. People were coming up to me saying. I was like, really cool. Honestly.

[Sarah Marie]

Good response.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. So I was like, all right.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, you did incredible. It was great.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It was my first time on stage. That big.

[Sarah Marie]

Living the dream.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Irwin's a great guy.

[Sarah Marie]

He's amazing. I love that family. I know. I don't really know them that well, but I followed them for, like, 30 years back before online was a thing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

We had cassette tapes back in the 80s.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Crazy.

[Sarah Marie]

He actually was like a part of my Bible college and so like, he would speak at it and come in and go out in Florida in 2000. So I remember him for a lot of years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, he just came on last week and just hearing his story about how he was doing his work for 15 years, making minimum wage.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. It's like, wow, he's the original hard worker. Like, you just see him just plowing and. And they're also so relevant and they're so creative. The family is so gifted in communication and just what they bring to the world in general, it's. It's beautiful to see he's so knowledgeable and it's healthy. He's a healthy leader. I'm telling you, I've been a part of the church for so many years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's changed my opinion on church.

[Sarah Marie]

Incredible. Like, and for what I come under because I had a lot of spiritual abuse and a lot of religious, like, stuff over the years. I. For me to sit under his leadership has been extremely healing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's awesome.

[Sarah Marie]

And empowering, because some people would be so embittered at the church, you know, for all the things that I've experienced, and just walk away completely from God. But it's like, if you can find a healthy leader and learn and glean from them as a person and then spiritually apply it to your life, you will. You'll have an experience and a lot of change, for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A lot of people tie their identity to their church that they attend.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah. And so if that crumbles or the person that you're following crumbles, and all of a sudden there's hurt and people, you know, just fall off. They fall through the cracks through hurt and disillusionment a lot of times, especially in the religious circle. So. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Because then you blame the whole religion.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. You turn your back on God and it's like, hey, that was a person who was in their ego.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yep.

[Sarah Marie]

Don't turn your back on God. He still loves you. You know what I mean?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I do believe in something now.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think I said at that talk I was atheist before the show.

[Sarah Marie]

I heard you say that. I didn't know. I didn't know a ton about your spiritual history. That's awesome.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Well, I went to church a little bit, but as a kid, you're, like, bouncing off the walls. Like, you're. You know, church setting is not really.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. It's conducive. So it depends on also the environment. Like, you saw mosaics. Very different.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

If you go on a Sunday, it's not. Kids can Bounce around really?

[Ryan Reynolds]

So they just let them wander around?

[Sarah Marie]

I mean not wander but like they, their own kids space. But like if they were brought into worship, they would be allowed to bounce around. It wouldn't be controlled. Like, hey, don't do that. Like it's a very free environment. That's so depending on where you go, it might be a different experience.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah. I really found my purpose through God.

[Sarah Marie]

It's a. I love that. I think, I think it's just a matter of time for, you know, once you people in argue with like theology all day long, but they cannot argue with a changed life.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

You know, you can't argue with my experience. I had this experience. You can't argue with that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I've seen so many miracles. So at a certain point it's like.

[Sarah Marie]

What was your miracle that was like most eye opening or that you, you didn't think like could be explained away.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I've had a couple near death experiences I've had. I've witnessed people recover from stage four cancer. I've just seen like surgeries that the likelihood of you surviving and they survive. Yeah, just like so many stories like that. It's like at a certain point is that a miracle or was that supposed to happen?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I think God is a just God and I think he cares and I think he listens to people and when they pray. So that's. That's amazing. You're experiencing miracles.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Absolutely.

[Sarah Marie]

Hopefully you'll experience many more.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, hopefully.

[Sarah Marie]

What did you used to write? Like. What do you mean?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just like silly stuff. When I was a kid, if my stomach hurt, I would pray. If, if I felt lonely, I'd pray. But I used to pray a lot.

[Sarah Marie]

That's amazing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Almost every day.

[Sarah Marie]

I mean that's what, that's what it is. It's just relationship. Right. It's not an, a place to go, an organization or an experience. It's literally just relationship. It's you communicating how you communicate to a living God that hears you and responds in his. In his way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, a lot of the stuff would come true, to be honest. Yeah, so I think it's a form of manifestation too.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I mean manifestation. I think sometimes people depending on the side of church you're on, some of these words can get like caught up in translation with certain religions, like they think visualization and manifestation and some of these things are all occultic.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Really?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. It depends on how extreme of the faith you're in. I've been in a few circles that are pretty extreme. But with that said like there is so much to it with scripture. It's like it says in scripture to call things that are not as though they are. Well, what is that? What is calling something that's not as if it is manifesting or calling a vision, being a visionary and visualizing it forward. So there's so many scriptures that back up that stuff. So I firmly believe it. But it's one of those things that depending on who you talk to, they'll say, is that demonic? Are you really worshiping God? Are you, you know, are you New age? Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's good to know. So there's a lot of division within the.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh yeah, the church is very divided, huh? Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I wonder what causes there to be so much different. Separation.

[Sarah Marie]

Well, man made rules, denominations. Right. Everybody kind of has their own spin. Whether it's an assembly of God versus a Baptist versus a Protestant, a Presbyterian. Their expression of worship is going to look very different. It's going to be quieter if you're a Presbyterian. Now if you're at Mosaic, it's going to be loud and, and all kind of music.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[Sarah Marie]

So they kind of divide on those little things, carpet colors, pews, children's ministry. But then it kind of breaks down to what their fundamental beliefs are. We don't believe in praying in tongues or we don't believe in miracles for today or. And so they kind of pick and choose some things out of the Bible, what they do and don't agree with based on their personal experience. And then they teach off of that. And there's a lot of pastors that do that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I could see that. Because a lot of the Bible is subjective, right? It's not.

[Sarah Marie]

It's very subjective. Love for interpretation and based on how you're filtering it, you can see things.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, that's super interesting. Yeah. So I guess you really got to do your research on where you go.

[Sarah Marie]

To church and yeah, I think the big thing is trusting your intuition, trust in your gut. If you feel like you're in the right spot, you'll know it. You know, like I didn't. I was going to check out a bunch of churches when I moved to LA and I realized I was like, oh my gosh, I forgot Erwin lives here. Oh my gosh. I remember I went to Beverly Hills High School years ago when he was here. Oh, I'll go Sunday. So I took my kids and we went and it was amazing. I was like, I don't need to check out anybody else. Like, there's a lot of great pastors in la, but I'M like, I don't need to sit in any other leader. Like, he is healthy, he's sound, he's amazing. We're good. We found home, so. Yeah, you'll know when you find home.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's cool. You dealt with a major surgery.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah. This. This last year I had cervical cancer, so I dealt with that. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sorry to hear that.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, it's okay. It was just kind of like, hey, you got to deal with this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Irwin went through that too.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

First time he came on the show, he talked about it.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. You don't expect to kind of go. Go through something like that, you know? I've dealt with cancer a lot, actually. Lost my mom to breast cancer 12 years ago. My ex partner husband had stage 4 cancer and I dealt with that during COVID So there's a lot of touch points with cancer in my life through extended family or friends. And. Yeah, so I dealt with it and I was just like, well, I guess we're. We're doing it and it's just basically, they took out my female organs. Basically left my. Left my ovaries. But I'm still a lady. But yeah, it was a surgery. They did a hernia. They had to fix a hernia and a bladder issue that they found in there from a C section from years ago. But, yeah, so they fixed it all and then we're good. That's it. We're ready to rock.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Was that the scariest moment of your life?

[Sarah Marie]

No. Honestly, I didn't really care.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Really? You were too.

[Sarah Marie]

I mean, I was just like, this is something else I have to muscle through. I had just walked through a divorce, which was terrible. I had just left a church community, which was terrible. I left a lot all my friends and family, which was terrible. I've lost my sister. I've lost my mom. There's a lot of terrible.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A lot of loss.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. So that wasn't. That wasn't terrible. I was conditioned, kind of more like.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Kind of got numb to the loss.

[Sarah Marie]

Not necessarily numb, but just like, this isn't that hard. This is doable. I can do this. I'm not going to stress about this. It's the surgery. I got to keep my mental health clear. We're ready to rock. Let's heal, recover, and move forward.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

That's kind of the approach I took with it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Was that genetic, you think, the cancer?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I think there's some genetics stuff going on there. I actually have a genetic doctor that's trying to do all these tests in la and I'm like, I don't want to know.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sometimes it's better.

[Sarah Marie]

I promise you that I'm not going to live in fear. So thank you, but let's call that test off. But, yeah, a lot of females in my family have dealt with a lot of stuff like this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Whether it's breast cancer or cervical cancer, endometriosis, things like that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

[Sarah Marie]

I like to live that world. Ignorance is bliss.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I mean, I just got a Pruvo scan. It's like a thing in la.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Preventative thing.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah, I've heard about that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. But a couple of things came up and I'm like, damn. This whole week I've been thinking about it, you know, I got to be careful because I don't want to, like, actually manifest this disease into me, you know?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, No, I think, like, don't stress in that way because fear, obviously is false evidence appearing real. Right. So there's no way. There's no reason to be in fear about something of hypotheticals. And that's the thing, you know, you gather the information, make educated decisions and move forward in faith. Just make. Just make a clear, clear thought and move forward. But ultimately everything has to be kind of just compartmentalized because if you let it rule your whole life, you can, you know, and some people do, and they get stuck in that. That's okay. But that's not where I want to be.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And Google's dangerous place sometimes.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

When you're looking up these, don't Google. I know. Like, no, for real. Because I'm pretty holistic and natural. But when you Google these.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

For like, disease and stuff, none of that pops up.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. It's all like, no, it doesn't. And I. Even my doctors, I have hormone doctors, and I was trying to do holistic even with this surgery with. And he gave me. He's like, I'll give you till June. It has to be done by June. So I started holistic from January till April. I ended up doing it at the end of April because I was moving. I decided to move, but he was like, everything looking a lot better than I thought. So, you know, I think the holistic approach is the way to go if you can do it. But obviously if it's life threatening, you need surgery, you need chemo, do what you got to do.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Agreed.

[Sarah Marie]

But agreed. Life is the. The end goal.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Quality of life.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So what's your relationship with death after seeing it so many times?

[Sarah Marie]

You know what, it's funny because for a lot of years, I did I had kind of like a death wish, if that makes sense. Not that I wanted to die, but I was just not afraid to die. And I was like, life is good, but I'm good. I can go whenever. Like, I love you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Felt like you did everything.

[Sarah Marie]

I just felt like it was good, but it's not that good, you know, like, life is good, but I've done it all. I've had kids. It's good, you know, but for me, like, in the last few years, when I started doing a lot of really peeling back personal development, I really started to start to feel differently about life, which is wild. As the layers started to kind of peel off through, you know, vulnerability and transparency of just digging deep into these stuff that I've dealt with, I started to love life, and now it's like, oh, my gosh, I don't want to die. That's terrible. That's a terrible thought. And so it's funny because I have more of a healthy fear of death than I've ever felt, because I. I definitely don't want to die. And it scares me now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, you found a second wind, almost.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. I feel like I felt like I. I came back to life and I rediscovered my purpose. I felt like I was dead for a lot of years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think I went through a little mini phase of that.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I used to think about dying a lot and who would care? Like, who would be at my funeral type thing. But I really have that thought anymore now. I'm just so in the moment.

[Sarah Marie]

Well, you will definitely have a lot of people at your funeral, but not.

[Ryan Reynolds]

At the time when I was having these thoughts.

[Sarah Marie]

I would have, like, six people. No, I know. No, but I hon. Funny, because my cancer journey, like, the. The small little one that it was in April, I had very little support. And I had a church. I mean, I did nonprofit for 25 years. I did missions overseas. I've done so much to serve people. And after I quit the church and there was a lot of divide with that social circle because of me being a pastor's wife and things like that. It was a very. It was very lonely. I had, like, two girlfriends reach out, bring me dinners. I had two girlfriends from the church. I had one girlfriend reach out to me from Canada. She came down for the surgery, and my sister and my cousin. That was it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

Handful of people, which is something that, you know, you're like, dang. If I did die, that was sad. But I also just made a life. Huge life change. And I. I wouldn't have wanted the support from all those other people.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Because they weren't authentic and they clearly it wasn't a genuine relationship where they would have been there. Right. It was just an act of service to them, not to me.

[Ryan Reynolds]

100%.

[Sarah Marie]

I was.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sometimes it's good not to have a lot of friends, I think.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. You know, I try to keep my circle small. Like Jesus.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, how small was his?

[Sarah Marie]

Well, he had 12 and then the 12 disciples. And then he had three. Peter, James and John. And then John was the closest.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Sarah Marie]

It was like one had the intimate connection with Jesus. So it was like the 12 and then the inner circle was three and then the closest one was.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I like that. A little three tiered system. 12, three and then one.

[Sarah Marie]

So we should model our lives like that. And our businesses can function pretty well off that too.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I would say. I'm actually pretty close to that system. I got one guy can count on with everything. Three close friends and maybe like 10.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Friends.

[Sarah Marie]

That's amazing. I mean, I only have a handful that I. That you call inner circle. You got your family and your couple that you would tell things to.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

And it's important to keep it close because you don't. You got to trust people, you know, and you don't have enough margin or energy to give all of yourself to everybody.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No.

[Sarah Marie]

So reserve it for where you need to put your emotions and your energy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Family is a tricky one. I tried to please all my family at one point, but now I realize I need to be a bit more selective.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. I think something I've learned is boundaries, and that's with people. Pleasing through service over the years is not being everything to everyone. And that's okay. I know the Bible says to be everything to everyone and you can be that, but you don't have to be giving everything that you are to everybody that asks for it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yup. I used to be a huge people pleaser and I still am a little bit, but it was so bad back in the day.

[Sarah Marie]

Your quality of life is so different.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

When you're worried about what everyone else is thinking and you're just like, I'm just trying to make decisions for myself and lead. Like, I wouldn't do this if I didn't want to do this. I don't want to do this. So, yeah. Keeping your circle small and boundaries strong are very important.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Absolutely. For sure. You just went to Costa Rica, right?

[Sarah Marie]

So I went to Costa Rica for. I was researching. Researching out some property that I was looking at to purchase there. There's a 20 acre homestead farm.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

That I want to purchase. And it has enough fruit trees on it that's already planted to kind of fund the community and give back. But I wanted to build like a retreat center or a burnout center for entrepreneurs that go through extreme burnout or high, high elite celebrity clientele that need somewhere to go. So I was there researching out some land. I also went to a retreat, a retreat there with some CEO entrepreneur, female women. And it was good. We were up in the jungle in Uvita. You know, it got rainy and the air went out and you know, you got bugs in the jungle and the spiders. But it was, it was an amazing experience.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Costa Rica's on my buck list.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. It's definitely worth exploring. I've been several times. But this Uvita is very cool area.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Is that in the rainforest?

[Sarah Marie]

It's definitely in the jungle. It's. The ocean's right there. So you get kind of a mix of everything and it's just got like a surfing community. It's really cool people. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're big on personal development. I noticed you've gone to these retreats and doing a lot of self.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, so I've probably spent close to a hundred thousand dollars in the last two years on personal development.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

I had to hire a life coach to get a divorce because I didn't know if I was making the right decision. And I hired her for several months prior and she would help me teach me how to create boundaries. And what does that mean? And then when it doesn't work, what do I do next? So I'm really big on personal development and I think people should be healthy in their relationships and their work environments. With corporations, you know, and in the industry that I work in, it's, it's all customer service and you got to be healthy. You can't, you know, can't get triggered and pop off. When somebody doesn't like what you're doing, you kind of just make adjustments and keep moving forward.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. So you got good emotional control now.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I feel like I've had decent emotional control throughout my life. I think more compartmentalized than the average woman, but I think you just rein it in.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

And do better.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. You know, I've always been the opposite. I'm so logical that I don't have enough emotion. But now I'm working on actually.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Being better with that because you can't have none.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. Well, that's it. The last couple years since I started digging, that's when I say I started feeling I started getting out of my logic brain and more into my emotional brain. And that's like, oh, wow. It's different out here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Because you can use emotions to kind of. Yeah. It's your benefit, actually.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. You 100. Yeah. Emotions are a good thing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. But you can't let it, like, control you. That's. That's the problem.

[Sarah Marie]

No. Yeah. You are who you are. Your emotions don't tell you who you are. Your feelings don't dictate who you are. You are who you are, you know?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

So you kind of have to rise above feelings and thoughts on a regular basis.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Absolutely. Actually, video games have helped me control my emotions.

[Sarah Marie]

Really?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

That's good.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You can get really mad.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. Well, I was gonna say, I feel like that's the opposite because, like. Like, my son plays and he's throwing stuff and I'm like, yeah, dude, like, calm it down. But I. I think it's great that it provokes emotion.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it does provoke it. So it's on the person to control it from there.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So, yeah. I used to throw stuff and.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, my friend broke a TV in my house.

[Sarah Marie]

Dang.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it gets heated.

[Sarah Marie]

Are you making some money on that game? Well, now he's hoping so.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Now kids are making a living off video games. Growing up, I know you got made fun of if you played them.

[Sarah Marie]

The beauty of social media, the beauty of the Internet, the beauty of all the things that's digital, you know, it's.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Cool to see you adapt to it, too.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Because it probably helped you ton of business. Right. Ton of connections.

[Sarah Marie]

Well, it's funny, I was only on it. I got on Instagram last year for the first time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's late.

[Sarah Marie]

I was on it a little bit earlier, years earlier, just. I didn't know what it was. I'm like, what do you do with this? You just play with it. I mean, social media was not a thing when I was growing up. We had self. We didn't have cell phones. Tell us after college.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

We didn't have. We had beepers, pagers.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't even know.

[Sarah Marie]

You literally get this little box and you page your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your friend, and you would text them your number, like, call me. And they. When they got it, they're like, oh, I need a caller.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh. So just be.

[Sarah Marie]

Then they stop to a pay phone and they call.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

Anybody over 40 knows this crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I did have a house telephone. I remember that.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. So, yeah. So now that everything's just online, it's. It's been a learning curve for sure because just getting online last year, I'm like, oh, dang. It's not just for play, this is for work.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

And I've utilized it since then and now I'm scaling it. I'm doing a lot more content for the aviation stuff.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I love it.

[Sarah Marie]

A lot more educational space that's coming. So. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Do you have a podcast on the plane?

[Sarah Marie]

No, but we are going to be doing. I have another guy who's an investor and he is a private pilot as well and he does a ton in the brokerage space. We're going to be doing a lot of content. Taking ferry flights from LA to Vegas and just filming on it for fun or going to. We're going to Van Nuys on Friday to film a G5 and just talk about the breakdown, the cost, the price point, fuel hours. Educate people so they know more about private aviation and kind of what that space looks like and how affordable it can be for an entrepreneur.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's cool. One of the best investments I ever made growing up was in this company called jetsmarter.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I bought a membership and I met some amazing people.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, it is amazing. And what wasn't it was that the 900amonth one.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it was like 15k a year. So. Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. You buy in and then it's like a decent price point.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I would be on G4S from New Jersey to Miami.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I did that like three times.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. Those are amazing brokerages. If you can get in, that's one part of the aviation sector that you can kind of, you know, just do some fractional ownership, leasing the jet, charter it obviously sales looks very different for a different entrepreneur. Different. Different purchase price point and different need. Some people are going vacation, but most people are buying back their time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

For me, it was great because I couldn't afford the whole jet by myself. I was like 20 years old.

[Sarah Marie]

That's amazing that you're buying.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know, right?

[Sarah Marie]

So well done. Good job is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I wish goals be I'd be the youngest kid on the flight in sweatpants and like a hoodie and just meet amazing entrepreneurs. And it was inspirational.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. I met so many people when I was flying. Like met some really cool, cool people along the way that challenged me and were constantly saying, why are you still flying as a girl? As the flight girl, I love that this is the service. I know I work in finance, investments, but they're like, no. Really? I'm like, no. They're like, get where the real money's At. And I'm like, I know, but it wasn't until I went through the divorce that I was like, I can't fly and be away from my kids. I got to make the big jump. And so sometimes you have these things in your heart and kind of life pushes you to go there.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

And then you're forced to do it and then it becomes something you're, you know, successful at.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I love it. And you're around a lot of successful female entrepreneurs. So what, what do you think separates them from the rest?

[Sarah Marie]

I think women in general are really incredibly powerful. I think if you look at any part of the world where women are congregated, whether it's prison, whether it's hospitals, whether it's in a work world or in a home, they're very creative and resourceful with their, with what they have. And so there's a lot of women that just create businesses out of nothing. Oh, you need a script writer. Aquin hand script. And so I think women are very resourceful. And so in the entrepreneur space, I just think women that do the hard work and keep showing up and keep doing the reps every day, just those are the ones that stand out. It's, it's the non negotiables that you keep doing what you're doing not because you want to, because you know, you have your end goal in mind and you're working your way backwards. You know what I mean? You have your vision for your life. And so with the women that I'm around, it's really inspiring because you get to sharpen each other and you get to be challenged and encouraged and inspired. I think women are super inspiring. You can do a lot of things and create a lot of different difference in this world, which a lot of women do, that they give back, whether it's nails they're giving back to kind of help make another woman look beautiful or whether it's, you know, education or, you know, women seem to like to rally together.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, that's cool. Do you see them have limiting beliefs about their potential?

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of limiting beliefs with women still today. As a generalization for sure. Women did not even have the ability to work their own company or run their own Finance till 1988.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

That's without a co signer of their husband or their father or a male colleague. 19. That's 36 years ago.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So they couldn't start a company.

[Sarah Marie]

They couldn't be their own female led company with their own female led financing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Sarah Marie]

Now I work in Private equity. And I'm lending money to women that are in the entrepreneur space that are helping people at a low percentage, super, super low, to give them a hand to kind of scale. And that's just 36 years later.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Crazy.

[Sarah Marie]

And before you need a co signer. So it's just crazy. Where we've come from in a short amount of time now there can be a women president. You know, like that was on the table this year 36 years ago. Women were just fighting for the right to work.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nuts.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

There's going to be a woman president in our lifetime, I think.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think Tulsi Gabbard could have a real shot at it.

[Sarah Marie]

There's some solid people out there.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. If not her, I could see. Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

There's, you know, it does pose with like, I've always thought this, now I might get some flack for this. But I, I'm not 100 sure if I think a woman president is the best person really. Like, I think if the woman can lead with logic and not emotion. And that's kind of where the emotions comes in. Because I think men do better leading in logic. A lot of times I'm not sure, I'm not sure if a woman would do the same job as a man in that sense. Now together. Yes. This is why I love the power couples.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Because you can sharpen each other. But.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So maybe as a VP or.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I mean, if she's present though, it.

[Sarah Marie]

Will be interesting to see. Now I know there's other prime ministers and people that have done it over the life of the years, but it's just, it'll be interesting to see how it does in an American culture. What that looks like. I could say because women are pretty. Can be pretty. Like we've seen it in the last campaign trail. There's a lot of emotions, a lot, a lot of slip ups with their talks. They pop off and say stuff. Not that all women do that, but I think that as a, as a woman myself, I know I have to rein that in. So that could be a potential downfall for a female president.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But yeah, I mean, I don't think people should get mad because that's just human nature. That's biology. You can't argue that women are wired differently.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Their hormonal cycle is a month long.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Ours is 24 hours.

[Sarah Marie]

I know. You get new testosterone every 24 hours. Lucky you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You guys. It takes a month. So I know certain days of the month are going to be harder than others. You know, I Got it in my calendar.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, that's a good man right there. Okay, take some notes, people. You gotta be real, though, because you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got to know where they're at. Yeah, you can act a little differently.

[Sarah Marie]

That's amazing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Maybe surprise him with Boba or something that day.

[Sarah Marie]

I love it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah. You need to start, like, a leadership dating podcast.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I gotta get, like, Bradley's been giving a lot of dating advice lately.

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, really?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Sarah Marie]

That's hilarious.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's got a funny show.

[Sarah Marie]

I've caught up a little bit with him. I haven't watched it lately. That's funny.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What have you been watching these days?

[Sarah Marie]

Oh, I'm really into, like, murder crime.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, you're one of those girls.

[Sarah Marie]

Terrible. I know.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Those podcasts do well.

[Sarah Marie]

I like. Well, yeah, no, as far as entrepreneur stuff, that's what I watch on TV sometimes. But, like, entrepreneurs, I like, obviously, the Mind Shift podcast. I love that. I like Huberman. Yeah, that's, you know, I. Real estate ones, like the Bigger Pocket podcast. I follow certain missionaries that are doing some stuff in the world, and I like listening to their stuff, their stories in the community, what they're doing. But, yeah. Wow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You didn't strike me as a murder mystery.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I like the science. I like the forensic science side of things. Like, I like just. I'm like, I can solve their crimes well before they even. There's, like, a cold case. I'm like, dude, you missed it. How did you miss this? And it's so cold case. I'm like, should I call somebody?

[Ryan Reynolds]

There's Reddit communities that solve murders. Did you know that?

[Sarah Marie]

I've seen it. Yeah. You might have to join Crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You might have to join one of those. My extra time, that must be so fulfilling. Actually, like, you, you provided this evidence and it led to a case.

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, I mean, it probably would. I can't imagine they sleep very well at night in general just because of their line of work. Well, even the detectives, they're. They're seeing all this stuff, you know, and they're like, I can't imagine it being a job I would ever want to be a part of.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But, yeah, hats off to them, watching.

[Sarah Marie]

It secondhand without the graphic stuff. I don't want to see the dead body, but I definitely want to kill the killer.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, feel that. Feel that, Sarah, where can people find you and keep up with you?

[Sarah Marie]

Yeah, so I'm passionate about women entrepreneurship, so any. Any entrepreneur that's looking to scale their business. I have a goal setting worksheet that I want to share. So DM Me Goals on Instagram on these sarah marie.net the Sarah Marie on every social site. And if you're interested in corporate aviation or jets or anything with fractional ownership, charters or purchasing the sarah marie.net Message me the word jet and I'll make sure that I can get to you. Got off market stuff and on market stuff and all kind of connections across the globe. So yeah, whatever I can do get you started, we'll do it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Awesome. We'll link below. Thanks for coming on.

[Sarah Marie]

Thanks so much for the chat. Appreciate you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thanks for watching guys. If you want to fly, hit her up. Peace.