Pastor John Amanchukwu (1:58)

For kids that are four and up. And so that's the focus of my campaign. I've been handcuffed. I've been kicked out of eight school board meetings by sheriffs.

Interviewer (2:09)

Wow.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (2:09)

I'm oftentimes grabbed up, yanked on, sometimes threatened by law enforcement because of my message. But the fight continues.

Interviewer (2:18)

That's crazy. Are you seeing this in certain states, certain cities, or is it everywhere in the country?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (2:22)

You know, that's a good question. Oftentimes people suspect that red states don't have these problems. I'm in a red state, North Carolina. We're trying to keep it red. Right. But I've been to North Carolina to speak out. I've been to Florida to speak at their school board meetings. There in Florida, I came against a Satanist who wanted to ban the Bible in the library because we were trying to remove the filthy books.

Podcast Host/Announcer (2:47)

Wow.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (2:47)

Right. And on the day that I came to town to speak at a school board meeting, the Satanist got sick and didn't show up. And so Satan lost again.

Interviewer (2:59)

Wow.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (3:00)

And. And so, yeah, and I went to a school board meeting, another school board meeting in Florida, and I was kicked out of that school board meeting because I addressed some of the graphic books also. And so it's in Florida, it's in Texas, you know, and so we have to keep the main thing. The main thing, we should protect the hearts and the minds of children. But for people who want to push this upon kids, we have to call them out. They are not good people. They are not decent people. They're not trying to create a space where all kids can belong. They are perverts. That's who they are. That's what they are. And we cannot give an inch. You know, as a result of my national. National campaign, there are three takeaways that I have. Perverts are perverting the hearts and the minds of our kids. Number two, parents are unaware. If you take your kid to Babylon, don't be surprised if they come back as Babylonians. If you take your kids to a school system that supports gender insanity, don't be surprised when your son comes home saying, you know, mom, I think I'm a cat, and now I want to bring a litter box to school. They call those people furries. It's evil. And number three, pastors have failed to do their job. You know, I think now more than ever, we should expect the Christian pastor and the Christian church to speak out against what's taking place in the public school system. You know, some people call it indoctrination. Some people call it grooming. But I like to call it mental because it assaults the soul, it stains the brain, and it robs children of their innocence.

Interviewer (4:46)

Wow. You're saying this as a pastor, so first of all, thank you.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (4:48)

But, hey, you know what? You shouldn't have to thank me for doing so, But I understand where you're coming from. We live in a day where, you know, weak pull pits create weak Christians. And so since pastors have become soft and spineless.

Interviewer (5:06)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (5:06)

And afraid to call Sin, Sin. You know, you have some pastors who are afraid to preach certain parts of the Bible because they don't want to sound offensive.

Interviewer (5:18)

That's crazy.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (5:19)

And you know, the gospel, the word of God is confrontational. The early church would cut you before they consoled you, right? And so the gospel will get in your mess and convict you. A person can't come to Christ and turn from iniquity and sin unless they're first convicted. When I consider the gospel message that I heard at the age of 19 when I was in sin, you know, it was the truth of God's word that brought me to my knees, you know, and so I think now more than ever, pastors have to lean in and do their job. And if you are afraid to speak truth to power, if you're more concerned with keeping butts in the pews, find a new profession, because this one isn't for you.

Interviewer (6:06)

Bars. Why are pastors soft now?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (6:08)

You think they're gay? That's. I mean, they've gone gay. I mean, what do you. What do you. What do you want to hear?

Interviewer (6:15)

I didn't expect that.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (6:16)

What expression. What answer do you want? They're gay, all right? They become insipid. You know, the Bible tells us this in Second Timothy. It says, second Timothy, chapter four, verse one. It says, I charge thee, therefore, before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom, okay? It says, preach the word, be instant in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and doctrine. Then it tells you, for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their lust shall heap to themselves teachers having itching ears. What that means is Christians who don't want to be reproved or rebuked or convicted, they'll go to churches, the Joel Osteen churches, the churches that cut the prices, as one preacher once said, to keep the people coming. You know, there's a preacher that once said that we have a Walmart marketing system in the church. We cut the prices to keep the people coming, right? We tell people that, hey, you can go to heaven and work as an abortionist. You can go to heaven and be married to a man. You are a man or married to a woman, and you are a woman. You know, God is okay with whatever you do. We're no longer telling people that there's something called judgment. The thing that ultimately convicted me at the age of 19 was the judgment of God. I did not want to be in the hands of an angry God. And the apostle Paul tells us that every man shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ to give an answer of what they have done in their bodies, whether it be good or bad. Then Paul goes on to say this. He said, and knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men, knowing that hell is what's going to come to those that are lost. We do everything that we can to win as many people as possible. That's what he's saying. Because we know that God's wrath is kindled against those that reject him. We don't reduce the standard, we don't cover up the scriptures that people don't want to hear. We say what needs to be said. And of course we say it in love. I get that part. But for people who want to hold on to sin when you speak truth, they don't feel love. They're angered.

Interviewer (9:06)

Wow.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (9:06)

They're upset. Matter of fact, they get on rooftops and they kill mighty patriarchs like Charlie Kirk. Not because Charlie Kirk punched someone, not because he was cursing people out on that day in Utah, not, not because he was flipping the bird at the audience even though they would do dastardly things against him, but because he spoke the truth. He's now a martyr aged 31, just because he proclaimed the truth. And there are pastors today who, you know, they may not be in a position where they might be martyred, but they might lose some followers, they might lose some members and members equals.

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Pastor John Amanchukwu (11:11)

See, when the mentality is that when the sheep become a number in your pocket and not a number on heaven's roll, that's where the problem comes. And so many pastors today say, you know what? We won't reprove, we won't rebuke, we won't do all of those things. We'll just exhort you and make you feel good. We're going to make you feel good all the way to hell.

Interviewer (11:40)

Wow. And that's what's happening to the modern churches. Right?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (11:43)

That's where we are.

Interviewer (11:44)

How do you find good churches then, these days?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (11:47)

Number one, you have to know that it's the word of God ultimately, and a pastor being willing to shape your biblical worldview that matters. Smoke machines, lights, plush pews, you know, comfort ease. Your favorite barista. Making coffee at church doesn't matter.

Interviewer (12:13)

Churches are doing that off.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (12:14)

Yeah, of course. Serve the coffee, make people comfortable. Get your scone, get your baguettes, get your croissants. You know, it's all good, but, you know, find the preacher who's going to tell you what, Thus saith the Lord from Genesis to Revelations. Find a church that's more concerned on building you up and at times, tearing you down through the scriptures based upon how you are living. You know, a good church is a church that prioritizes truth and God's word over the pastor's personality. Then find a church that not only is shallow enough to be a starter church for the Christians that don't have much depth, the babes. But it's a church that's given towards discipleship that will help you get from point A to point B. Maybe you're dealing with an addiction. Maybe you're dealing with a crisis in the past. Maybe you need Christian counseling. Not secular counseling counseling, but Christian counseling. Find a church like that and then find a church that's not solely focused on Sunday morning, but they're going into the market. Marketplace.

Interviewer (13:39)

I like that.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (13:40)

And compelling men and women to engage the culture wherever you are. That's a good church.

Interviewer (13:47)

I like that. Community, right?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (13:48)

Yes.

Interviewer (13:49)

Yeah. Before Charlie passed, he was very concerned with the spread of Islam to the West. Do you share that sentiment with him?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (13:55)

Yes, I do. I'm. I am concerned with the spread of falsehood. Okay. I am concerned with the spread of hate. If a person is a Muslim and they're not projecting hate on me, be a Muslim. All right. Practice Islam as much as you want.

Interviewer (14:19)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (14:20)

But what we're seeing today is an infiltration and an animus that some Islamists have towards the American idea that has to be condemned, that has to be shunned, that has to be fought against. Okay. And Islam itself is not compatible with Western civilization. Sharia law, Sharia law, you know, the ideology of having up to four wives. So as long as you treat them all equally, that's incompatible with Western civilization, is incompatible with the scriptures as well. And so I think now more than ever, we have to discern and see if a person is a radical extremist and they're trying to project not only their viewpoint, but dominance in the matter where they're willing to take up arms and go kill people for the sake of Allah.

Interviewer (15:25)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (15:26)

That's what we need to contend with. And I don't. And all Muslims are not there. I think that's a fair, fair, fair assessment. But the sad thing is the doctrine, the Quran is there.

Interviewer (15:40)

Right.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (15:41)

And so we need to be mindful of that.

Interviewer (15:43)

Do you feel like a lot of them are misguided Muslims?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (15:46)

Yes, I, I, I, I do. They're, they're misguided. They're. Some, some are a product of their environment. You know, the women are beaten into submission. Christianity frees women. You know, Islam doesn't. Yeah, some are beaten into submission. I do, I, I do, I do agree with, with that. And then some are steeped in a culture where to be a radical extremist is their way of life, and they serve their faith the best by doing demonstrative things against Americans. And so I do think we have to address that. One of the things that I can honor Muslims for in comparison to Christians is that they're willing to be militant in their beliefs. Oftentimes Christians purport to be believers, but they don't know their word.

Interviewer (16:47)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (16:48)

They don't pray, let alone five times a day.

Interviewer (16:50)

Makes sense.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (16:51)

They're not con. They're not convinced and convicted of what they believe in.

Interviewer (16:56)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (16:56)

And so if there's anything that we can pull from them, it's the wherewithal to be who you say you are till the end.

Interviewer (17:04)

I know forgiveness is important for Christians when it comes to someone like Candace, who I saw you call out, went super viral.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:09)

Oh, you saw that? Yeah, I called.

Interviewer (17:11)

I think a lot of are you. Are you?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:12)

I know. I didn't oh, you. I didn't say anything about Candace.

Interviewer (17:14)

Oh, you didn't?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:14)

Okay, well, I'm teasing.

Interviewer (17:16)

Well, you got me nervous there.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:18)

I was like, no, I'm messing with you.

Interviewer (17:21)

All right.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:22)

What?

Interviewer (17:22)

I.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:22)

It wasn't so much that I called out Candace, although I did mention her name. I called out her behaviors.

Interviewer (17:30)

Right. There's a difference, though.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:32)

You know, the first time that I met Candace owens was in 2024 in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

Interviewer (17:39)

Oh, yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (17:39)

All right. And when I met her, I was so excited to see her. I didn't have a piece of paper or a book for her to sign. And so I grabbed my hand and said, candace, will you sign my hand? Right. And when I get home, I'm. I'm going to tell my wife I'm never going to wash my hand again a day in my life. She loved it, and I loved it. It was. I had a great time with her. You know, she's been a solid voice on the conservative right for a long time. She has, but she's drifted in some areas, you know, and so what I was calling out is her demonic and evil behaviors. When you say that, you have proof that Turning Point sold Charlie Kirk out and betrayed him, and you want to burn it down. And when you start talking like that, that's an issue. When you start saying that Judeo Christianity is a scam. Right, Right. And she starts off saying that it was, you know, the. And Bibi Netanyahu, potentially. And then she's talking about Egyptian planes.

Podcast Host/Announcer (18:47)

And.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (18:49)

Potentially, maybe even Erica, because if you say that everyone betrayed Charlie, then that means that his wife betrayed him. So when you start speaking like that, knowing that the Bible condemns slander and sowing seeds of discord.

Interviewer (19:05)

Because she's Christian. Right.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (19:06)

And she's a. She's supposed to be Christian. You know, it was reported to mean that even before she became Catholic that she was once praying to the universe. You know, and so maybe that's some astrology kind of stuff, and maybe that explains why she was having a dream and communicating with Charlie. Maybe there's some occult kind of influence there, which teeters on necromancy because we don't communicate with dead people. You know, it's one thing to have a dream, but to have a conversation and they tell you that they were betrayed, I mean, that's. That's going too far.

Interviewer (19:43)

Oh, wow. So are you not supposed to. If someone's dead in your. And they show up in your dream, is that considered talking to dead people?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (19:48)

I mean, if you. If you. If you have a conversation with them, you know, interesting. And so we're supposed to tell a dream as a dream. You know, maybe it was something she ate that night. You know, four children under four children under the age of five, maybe she's going to dealing with some postpartum issues. You know, who knows? But to now take that dream and make it law and gospel, do a show on it, begin to push your beliefs based upon that dream. That's. That's demonic and evil. And the Bible speaks about how you should handle the fatherless and widows. Oh, yeah. You know, God says that I will. I will hear the cry of the. The widow or the fatherless if they cry out to me, and I will act on their behalf if they do cry out to me. And so the Bible speaks explicitly about how we should treat widows. Now, should we investigate the case? Should we try to find out as much information as possible? Yes. All right. But in the same manner that she turned over information to France when she felt that she was potentially going to be. No, in the same manner that she turned over information about the French Assassin.

Interviewer (21:09)

Yeah. French Legion.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (21:10)

Yeah, the French. How do you say that?

Interviewer (21:12)

Legion.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (21:12)

Yeah, the French Legion. Yeah. She turned that over to the American government. You know what I mean? And she turned that into some people there. And so I think we should do the same thing when it comes to these tips that she's receiving about Charlie Kirk's case. Turn that over. Let them handle them. If you have private information, let's keep it private until we get to trial. You know, let's not tank the jury. Let's not skew them.

Interviewer (21:38)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (21:38)

Let's be strategic. And just because Erica hasn't been as loud and vocal and boisterous as her doesn't mean that she doesn't want justice for her husband.

Interviewer (21:52)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (21:53)

Your noise level doesn't speak to the credibility of your heart.

Interviewer (21:57)

Right.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (21:59)

Really? Your temperance does.

Interviewer (22:01)

Yup.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (22:02)

And so that's where we are. Do I pray for Candace? Yes. I pray that she sees the error of her ways. You know, she's grieving in some senses, and in some cases, I think that she's just deluded. And I pray that she has a conversion, that her heart changes.

Interviewer (22:24)

I hope the conversation with Erica helped.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (22:26)

Yeah, I pray that it has. But what we've seen thus far post that, I don't know. You know, I wish the best for Candace Owens. I wish the best for Erica Kirk and Turning Point usa. I don't want anyone to assassinate Candace, and I definitely don't want anyone to assassinate Erica Kirk at tpusa and people who work alongside TP usa, like myself. Yeah, I wouldn't want that. I don't condone that. You know, we should be able to be able to disagree in a wholesome and biblical way. And some of the things that we're hearing from her, it's just ungodly.

Interviewer (23:04)

Yeah. When I saw Erica forgive the murderer on stage, I was, I was brought to tears, honestly.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (23:10)

Yes, yes.

Interviewer (23:10)

That was so powerful. That's why I asked you about Candace. And if someone like that should be forgiven, you know.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (23:15)

Yes, yes. We don't indeed, we should forgive. We can forgive the murderer. We can forgive people who murder people, that is pick up weapons and shoot them. And we can forgive people who assassinate people's character. Yeah.

Interviewer (23:36)

Literally.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (23:36)

You know, basically, she's been, Candace has been the, the hit, the hit woman. Her, her scope, her sight is set on several people, and she believes that she has solid information. And I think that if you have solid information, turn that over to the powers that be that can do something about it.

Interviewer (23:59)

Yeah.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (23:59)

You know, don't try to try the case out in public beforehand. That's where the problem is. Comes in. And I pray that she adjusts on some areas. And there's nothing wrong with asking questions. You know, I, I, I believe, you know, that Israel is God's chosen people. The word of God says that. It tells us that those who love thee will, will prosper. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that just because you're chosen, you get to do whatever you want to do. Say what? What, Whatever you want to say. And just because you're chosen as God's chosen people, that doesn't mean that you're automatically going to heaven. Chosen people go to hell.

Interviewer (24:40)

Really?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (24:41)

Yeah. You, you have to accept Christ as your Lord and savior.

Interviewer (24:44)

Okay.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (24:45)

And if they reject Christ as their Lord and savior, then they're going to hell.

Interviewer (24:50)

Interesting.

Pastor John Amanchukwu (24:51)

Yeah. So chosen people.

Interviewer (24:53)

Chosen people can go to hell too, guys. Well, Pastor John, thanks for your time, man. How can people watching this support you and get involved with you?

Pastor John Amanchukwu (25:00)

Yes. Go to my YouTube channel. Go there and support me. It's at R e v W Truth. That's Rev Wu Truth. Go follow me on my YouTube channel. Thank you.

Interviewer (25:13)

Awesome. Thanks. God bless you guys. Peace.

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Interviewer (25:21)

Thank you.