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A
What's your theory on who becomes a ghost? Do you think it's people that have unfinished business or I guess, what do you think the process is after death?
B
A lot of times people are still connected with heartstrings to individuals that they love deeply and sincerely. So, yeah, they'll interact with them and they'll have a passing by, more or less. But there's some individuals that don't have a loved one to connect with, so they linger instead. And that's why they usually stay in those environments, because they don't have anyone else to connect with. Foreign.
A
Guys, Complex Con Day two here with Ro Fisher. We're going to talk some conspiracies today.
B
Yes, sir. Let's do it.
A
How you been, though?
B
Pretty good, man. How about yourself?
A
Yeah, good. Let's start off with the Luxor Hotel. That was the first hotel I ever stayed in when I came to Vegas.
B
Same.
A
So you believe it's haunted?
B
Absolutely. There's too many entities within it. Science has already proven to us that energy is real. So once we understand that, it's easier for us to follow that, you know, these energies are having different effects on the people in the environment that is in. If we have bodies that are actual decrepit corpses that are inside of the casino, they still have spirits attached to it. Along with the Titanic that has several different. Sorry, they have several different memorabilia that's still inside of there that was possessed by. By different spirits that have passed away in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
A
Yeah.
B
Along with King Tut's tomb that we have as well, which was alleged to be cursed, too.
A
That's nuts. I've been to that Titanic museum.
B
How'd you like it?
A
It was interesting, but I never even connected the dots that. Yeah, a lot of people died on that ship. So I wonder if their spirits transferred to that museum.
B
Of course, you guys are dealing with a lot of properties that are there and different possessions that these spirits once had. So, yeah, they're going to have some kind of attachment, especially if they can get back on the land again instead of being trapped inside of the bottom of the ocean. Of course.
A
I always wondered how spirits can attach to certain objects.
B
A lot of the times it's because it's an object that they frequent a lot, you know. So if it's a cup that someone deals with on a daily basis, it's easy for their energy to be entrapped inside of that cup or even surround that cup. So that's why you have houses that are usually possessed. But a lot of these ghosts won't want to connect to something that's anchored literally to the bottom of.
A
Would you say you're pretty sensitive to energies?
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
So you can sort of detect hauntings and negative energies.
B
Absolutely. I've dealt with different ghosts throughout my life. I started when I was like, nine years old. I started interacting with some ghosts.
A
Yeah.
B
But it went further. When I worked at a nightclub, I actually was interacting with seven different ghosts inside there.
A
I'm sure at nightclubs there's a lot of, like, negative energy, right?
B
Oh, yeah. And that goes hand in hand again with. With that science point that. With that scientific point that we have. You have a lot of these energies that are going to affect the room that it's in. If you have a bunch of negative ions inside of a room with positive ions, the positive ions get outnumbered constantly because the negative energy is stronger.
A
Wow.
B
So you have to be very persistent with your positive energy. That's why they talk about, in the religion base, staying close with God, because your energy is going to cancel out all the rest of the negative energy around you. Otherwise, it's easy to be consumed by it as well.
A
Interesting. Yeah. I have noticed when I go through depression or anxiety, I'm more prone to being spiritually attacked.
B
Of course. Absolutely. Because your guards are down. So it's more susceptible to being infiltrated by these negative energies around you. And whatever goal or mission or mo someone has in the area that they're wishing something, it doesn't mean that the wish is going to come to them, but they're still calling this in their area in the vicinity. And if you're there in a negative spot, it's going to be attracted to you.
A
Absolutely. That's why I've noticed with a lot of these cheaper, older hotels in Vegas, they seem to really be a breeding ground for this negativity.
B
Absolutely. You got a lot of people there.
C
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B
In despair who are feeling down and depressed. And sometimes they also have mental illnesses as well that they're letting loose with their energy as well. So in Circus Circus, there was a very well known case of that in room 123.
A
Yeah.
B
There was a mother that was there and she was distraught and she had mental issues and she ended up unfortunately taking the life of two children that were hers and her own.
A
Wow. When was that?
B
This was a few years ago, a few decades back. About 30 years ago. So since then people have heard moaning and groaning, scratches and even seen the words help me written on the mirror from the children.
A
Holy crap.
B
Yeah, it's intense. So I'm starting a group. I have a team that's going to go out and do paranormal searches. There's a bunch of areas like that in Las Vegas. It's not just an anomaly.
A
Well, a lot of people end their lives here.
B
True. Yeah.
A
Gambling or whatever.
B
And Luxor is another place that a lot of these people have ended their lives jumping off. When I first came to Las Vegas to visit, someone had unfortunately jumped off from the top of the stratosphere and they were cleaning it up and within 20 minutes everybody was able to go inside.
A
Holy crap. From the stratosphere.
B
Yeah.
A
That is nuts.
B
Yeah, it's intense. It's a very hard sight to see and, you know, there's twitching and it just really affects you afterwards.
A
Yeah.
B
But yeah.
A
What are you looking to get out of these investigations?
B
Clarity. So that way everyone understands that it's not a suspicion or a conspiracy to talk about ghosts. It's a part of life. It's the next journey of it. You know, we have our anomalies in life normally and we have our anomalies in the afterlife as well. And some of those include being able to be in contact and interact with the living still.
A
Right.
B
Have you.
A
You said you had conversations with ghosts earlier?
B
Not conversations, but I had interactions. Interaction where basically I spoke out to let it be known that I'm not here on a malicious purpose. There's no ill intent that I have. It's just I'm here doing my job and I'M proceeding and I got left alone. Different people have ended up with scratches and being followed home, etc. And I think it's just being susceptible to that energy.
A
Yeah, I've noticed, like on ghost hunting shows, sometimes they get followed home.
B
Yes.
A
That's never happened to you?
B
No, not for me. It. When I was younger, I had a ghost in my home. That was the first interaction I had. But following that, the only interactions I had that were in my home were with personal people that I know who have passed away. Family, loved ones. And even to know before the news got out that they passed away, I already had an interaction in some cases.
A
What's your theory on who becomes a ghost? Do you think it's people that have unfinished business or. I guess, what do you think the process is after death?
B
I believe a lot of times people are still connected with heartstrings to individuals that they love deeply and sincerely. So, yeah, they'll interact with them and they'll have a passing by, more or less. But there's some individuals that don't have a loved one to connect with, so they linger instead. And that's why they usually stay in those environments, those areas, because they don't have anyone else to connect with.
A
So that's the importance of connection then.
B
Yes, especially while you can write down the living, connect with everyone that you can. Wow.
A
Do you think there's a way, if someone's stuck in that state, to transcend that?
B
There have been talks about possession, but I think that that's, you know, the opposite of what God is wanting for that passage. That's alienating the process and making it personal instead. To say that you want to come back again rather than just saying if it's a karmic cycle thing where you will have another chance to live again the proper way, rather than trying to possess somebody.
A
Yeah. Do you think ghosts can enter dreams?
B
Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that they can. I even think that ghosts have been able to infiltrate AI. I think some of the basis of what we're seeing, there's another dimension that's accessible as well. It's like Idle Hands. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that move.
A
Idle Hands.
B
Yeah, it was a movie with Seth Green. And what it talks about is hands that aren't at work is like the devil's playground. So if we have something that is emulating life as much as it possibly can without actual life, the life that is able to access it in the spiritual realm will take hold of it if it can.
A
Holy crap. That's nuts. You also think the Bali's is haunted, right?
B
That's correct. The Bally's hotel used to be the original MGM Hotel. And in 1988 they had a fire. That fire took the lives of many people that were inside of that casino floor and workers as well. Since then, there are cold spots inside of the Bally's hotel. And people who are even passing by on a hot day have experienced those cold spots. Damn.
A
What do you think causes the cold spots? Is it something the ghost, some type of energy the ghost is giving off?
B
I think that, you know, it's the opposite of what we have when we're living. You know, when we radiate energy, it's heat. A lot of times we feel hot, hot areas whenever somebody's around us or close by, even if you're not turning in that direction. I think it's just the opposite that they're trying to emulate energy and the closest that they can is cold.
A
Interesting. I wonder if ghosts can see humans.
B
Yeah, I think that it's not a sight thing. I think that they're just going with a conscious feeling as well. Right. You know, kind of like heaven. A lot of times people think of clothes, clouds, but instead it's mainly just an energy mass of matter. Because matter can't be destroyed, it's just recreated into another form of energy.
A
Yeah.
B
So if we look into space, we see purple, we see blue, we see pink. And that's just different particles of matter that just made its way into space. And that's why I think that's a collection of heaven. All that matter. That matter. Yeah.
A
Well, this has been fun, man. I got to get you in the studio for a full episode one of these days. But for now, where could people find you?
B
You guys can find me at IDK Row Official and you can also look at off the Grid network and see me on know your row with Maverick, Devon and Big Homie.
A
Check them out, guys. Peace.
C
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A
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Episode: Ro Fisher: Are Las Vegas Hotels Actually Haunted? (DSH #1718)
Date: December 29, 2025
Guest: Ro Fisher
In this intriguing episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Ro Fisher to tackle one of Las Vegas’s most persistent urban questions: are the city’s iconic hotels actually haunted? The conversation dives into the intersection of personal experience, paranormal theory, and the unique history of famous Vegas landmarks. Ro shares chilling anecdotes, explores the science of energy, discusses the psychology of hauntings, and muses on the metaphysical. The host and guest reflect on everything from cursed artifacts to the implications of spiritual attachment, offering a dialogue that is both contemplative and unsettling.
The episode is deeply conversational, mixing personal anecdotes with metaphysical speculation and a touch of dark Vegas history. Ro’s stories are delivered earnestly, occasionally with chilling specificity, and Sean’s sincere curiosity keeps the conversation engaging for believers and skeptics alike. The interplay between science, spirituality, and the mysterious underscores the haunted appeal of Las Vegas hotels.