Summary: "Russia Will Lose This War”: Veteran Explains What’s Really Happening - Jake Broe | Digital Social Hour #1633

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Jake Broe (Military veteran, YouTuber, Ukraine war analyst)
Date: November 21, 2025
Theme: A candid, in-depth conversation examining the Russia-Ukraine war, the landscape of pro-Ukraine vs. pro-Russia media, the role of American politics and figures like Trump, the propaganda mechanisms of authoritarian regimes, the broader geopolitical consequences, and the state of global democracy.

Overview of the Episode

Jake Broe, a military veteran and prominent pro-Ukraine YouTuber, joins Sean Kelly to unpack the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war’s realities, debunking myths, discussing propaganda and social media manipulations, analyzing US and Russian leadership dynamics, and predicting the long-term fate of Russia. Broe provides granular insights—from frontline realities to macro geopolitics—with a particular focus on the war’s psychological, historical, and economic impact.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pro-Ukraine vs. Pro-Russia Narratives on Social Media

Pro-Ukraine Content Dominates: YouTube is essentially blocked in Russia; YouTubers supporting Ukraine have much larger reach ([02:31]).
Authoritarian States Censor Dissent: Russia, Iran, China, North Korea have limited access to open social media—propaganda is tightly controlled ([02:36]).
Pro-Russia Voices Online are Small but Loud: Often paid propagandists, not genuine truth-seekers ([03:56]).
Jake’s Media Strategy: He never engages pro-Russia influencers because they’re “not good faith actors or genuine people for me to do a debate with them… they live in an alternate reality.” ([03:57][-04:34])
Russia’s Propaganda via Religion: Russian Orthodox church operates as a wing of Kremlin disinformation, contrasting with the destruction of other faiths' places of worship in occupied Ukrainian territory ([06:47]).

2. Historical and Ethnic Context of the War

Ukraine’s Distinct Identity: “Ukraine has an older ethnic identity than Russia… the Cossacks, the language, everything is distinct and unique, but the Russians… have been trying to eradicate this ethnic identity… This war is a genocide.” (Broe, [08:30])
Goal of Russian Expansion: Putin sees his role as restoring the Soviet sphere of influence, controlling or outright occupying former republics ([17:33]).

3. Western Policy, US Politics, and Trump’s Influence

Biden vs. Trump Approaches: Biden’s cautious, wary of global market disruption; Trump transactional, focused on business deals and personal enrichment ([09:10], [15:03], [15:50]).
Trump’s Failed Peace Push: Trump’s belief that Russia would win quickly fell apart when “the front lines have barely moved in 10 months—over the last thousand days, Russia has only taken an additional 1% of Ukraine’s territory.” ([12:19])
Trump’s Negotiation Rituals: Broe: “Trump always chickens out” (CNBC-coined ‘taco’—’Trump Always Chickens Out’), frequently threatening action but not delivering ([13:00]).
Trump’s Business Ties: Deep, problematic connections to Russian businessmen and admiration for Putin’s “empire” power, not money ([15:03], [16:26]).

4. Russia’s Path, Putin’s Goals, and the Collapse Threat

Putin’s Legacy Motivation: “He’s not motivated by money… he wants to be the man known for undoing the collapse of the Soviet Union.” ([17:33])
Cycle of Russian Expansion and Collapse: “Based on historical precedents, Russia is the most likely country in this world to collapse. They’ve done it twice in the last 110 years… getting very close…” ([19:32])
Containment vs. Collapse: West wants to prevent both an outright Russian victory and a dangerous Russian collapse leading to loose nukes and chaos ([20:28]).
Sanctions' Impact: Half of Russia’s national wealth fund frozen—$300 billion, unlikely to be returned; used instead for Ukrainian reparations after the war ([29:12]-[30:54]).

5. State of the War and Ukraine’s Resistance

Russian Military Incompetence & Losses: “The Russians are so corrupt and so incompetent... over three years, taken only an additional 1%.” ([54:20] and earlier)
Courage in Ukraine: Tales of besieged cities (e.g., Mariupol) and civilian/military resistance ([54:20]-[56:17]).

6. Propaganda, Censorship, and US Social Media

Elon Musk and ‘Grokipedia’ as Pro-Russia Disinfo: “Grokipedia directly sources information from the Kremlin.” ([33:29])
American Oligarchs Prefer Autocracy: “They are pro-autocracy because it is easier and more efficient for them to do business. Elon loves China…” ([35:27])
Personal Experience with Social Media Suppression: “My first Twitter account got deleted... I was a pro-Ukraine YouTuber in 2023 and I’m confident Elon... messes with private accounts on Twitter all the time.” ([36:33])
Censorship Nuances: Private platforms have rights to enforce community standards, but true government censorship is a different beast ([37:09]-[39:03]).

7. Fundraising for Ukraine and Community Efforts

Jake’s NGO Work: Over $7 million raised for Ukraine in last two years, delivering critical equipment through Estonian partners. “I don’t know any other YouTube channel aside from Sternenko that is consistently fundraising over a million dollars every couple months.” ([49:22]-[50:44])

8. Broader Geopolitical Risks: China and Global Security

China’s Vulnerability: China’s energy and food dependencies make it more susceptible to containment in a US conflict, unlike Russia ([41:40]-[43:04]).
US Posture: “The US policy has always been containment... If China invades Taiwan... nothing gets in, nothing gets out of China for six months and hundreds of millions will starve.” ([42:29]-[43:03])

9. Domestic US Politics—Systemic Problems

Cynicism on Both Parties: Deep criticism of both MAGA Republicans (described as ‘cult’) and ineffective Democrats. Predictions of generational shifts, primary challenges, and the need for new policy visions from the left ([67:22]-[70:03]).
Economic Anxiety: “For the average 30-year-old… first time in American history people are not prospering more than their parents’ generation.” ([69:08])
Tariffs & Economic Policy: “Who pays the tariff?... Americans. A tariff is a tax on imported goods.” — Broe, debunking Trump’s narratives ([64:34]-[65:59]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Pro-Russia Influencers:

“They’re not good faith actors or genuine people for me to like do a debate with them. I’m willing to have a conversation with anyone if I think they’re open to taking in new information or accepting reality as fact, but they don’t. They live in an alternate reality completely made up.” – Jake Broe ([03:57])
On Russia’s Religious Propaganda:

“The only church you’re allowed to join or be a part of is the Eastern Orthodox Church of Russia. Because they control all the priests, they control the Sunday sermons, they control the messaging, and it’s not very Christian. They are pro war, pro death, pro die for Putin.” – Jake Broe ([06:47])
On the Stagnation of Russian Offensives:

“Over the last thousand days, Russia has only taken an additional 1% of Ukraine’s territory.” – Jake Broe ([12:12])
On Putin vs. Trump:

“For Trump, everything is a business deal. How can I gain more power and wealth for myself and for my kids?... And Putin just looks at him and laughs. I’ve already got all the money I could ever want or need. The treasury of Russia is my personal bank account.” – Jake Broe ([16:26])
On Russia’s Repeated Historical Collapses:

“Based on historical precedents, Russia is the most likely country in this world to collapse. They’ve done it twice in the last 110 years.” – Jake Broe ([19:32])
On Why the War Endures:

“Putin is not giving us a choice. Putin could stop this war today and declare victory. Everything he’s taken, that’s all he’ll take... But Putin is now taking this personal because it’s his legacy.” – Jake Broe ([20:35])
On US Sanctions Freezing Russian Wealth:

“Half of the wealth fund of Russia on day one of this war was instantly frozen. It’s still frozen today.” – Jake Broe ([29:18]) “This money is going to be used to rebuild Ukraine. Everything that Russia has destroyed, they’re going to have to pay that.” ([30:54])
On Elon Musk’s Russia Ties:

“Elon’s Grokipedia uses the Kremlin as their primary source for anything having to do with Russia, Putin or Ukraine.” ([33:35]) “Elon does not support democracy. He does not like the democratic process because it is inefficient for business.” ([35:27])
On Trump’s Tactics with Zelenskyy:

“When Trump says, you know, give me your mineral, you know, the mineral deal, give me all of your mineral rights or whatever, Zelensky… has to be polite, you have to be nice, but you just tell Trump no....Trump was applying pressure, trying to bully and intimidate Zelenskyy to surrender this territory...And Zelenskyy just told him no.” – Jake Broe ([57:00])
On American Political Cynicism:

“Now, at this point, I just think MAG is a cult. Doesn’t matter what Trump says and does. People have their own beliefs and why they support him. And I’m not going to change anyone’s mind at this point. It’s been 10 years. Everyone has their final opinion on Donald Trump.” – Jake Broe ([65:49])

Timestamps for Important Segments

[01:06] Jake’s transition to war coverage and channel growth
[02:31] Why pro-Ukraine YouTubers have bigger audiences
[06:47] Russia’s use of Orthodox Church for propaganda, destruction of other churches
[09:10] Trump’s (and Biden’s) handling of the war
[12:12] Russia’s minimal territorial gains after thousands of days
[15:03] Trump’s deep business ties to Russia
[19:32] Russia’s historic collapses and Putin’s ambitions
[20:28] The West’s dilemma: contain Russia, but prevent collapse
[29:12] Russian state funds frozen in the West
[33:29] Elon Musk/Grokipedia disseminating Kremlin talking points
[35:27] American oligarchs’ preference for working with dictators
[41:40] China’s vulnerabilities compared to Russia
[49:22] Jake’s YouTube-driven fundraisers for Ukraine
[54:20] The siege of Mariupol and Ukraine’s resistance
[62:35] US government shutdown and health care policy
[65:49] Broe: “MAG is a cult… everyone has their final opinion on Donald Trump.”

Closing Thoughts

This wide-ranging episode offers a sobering, unsparing perspective on the Russia-Ukraine war, US and Russian leadership, propaganda’s dangers, and the shifting tides in domestic and global politics. Broe's candor and deep knowledge provide unique clarity and urgency.

Where to find Jake Broe: [YouTube: Jake Broe]
Support Ukraine: Fundraiser link available via Jake Broe’s channel.

Summary: "Russia Will Lose This War”: Veteran Explains What’s Really Happening - Jake Broe | Digital Social Hour #1633

Overview of the Episode

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pro-Ukraine vs. Pro-Russia Narratives on Social Media

Pro-Ukraine Content Dominates: YouTube is essentially blocked in Russia; YouTubers supporting Ukraine have much larger reach ([02:31]).
Authoritarian States Censor Dissent: Russia, Iran, China, North Korea have limited access to open social media—propaganda is tightly controlled ([02:36]).
Pro-Russia Voices Online are Small but Loud: Often paid propagandists, not genuine truth-seekers ([03:56]).
Jake’s Media Strategy: He never engages pro-Russia influencers because they’re “not good faith actors or genuine people for me to do a debate with them… they live in an alternate reality.” ([03:57][-04:34])
Russia’s Propaganda via Religion: Russian Orthodox church operates as a wing of Kremlin disinformation, contrasting with the destruction of other faiths' places of worship in occupied Ukrainian territory ([06:47]).

2. Historical and Ethnic Context of the War

Ukraine’s Distinct Identity: “Ukraine has an older ethnic identity than Russia… the Cossacks, the language, everything is distinct and unique, but the Russians… have been trying to eradicate this ethnic identity… This war is a genocide.” (Broe, [08:30])
Goal of Russian Expansion: Putin sees his role as restoring the Soviet sphere of influence, controlling or outright occupying former republics ([17:33]).

3. Western Policy, US Politics, and Trump’s Influence

Biden vs. Trump Approaches: Biden’s cautious, wary of global market disruption; Trump transactional, focused on business deals and personal enrichment ([09:10], [15:03], [15:50]).
Trump’s Failed Peace Push: Trump’s belief that Russia would win quickly fell apart when “the front lines have barely moved in 10 months—over the last thousand days, Russia has only taken an additional 1% of Ukraine’s territory.” ([12:19])
Trump’s Negotiation Rituals: Broe: “Trump always chickens out” (CNBC-coined ‘taco’—’Trump Always Chickens Out’), frequently threatening action but not delivering ([13:00]).
Trump’s Business Ties: Deep, problematic connections to Russian businessmen and admiration for Putin’s “empire” power, not money ([15:03], [16:26]).

4. Russia’s Path, Putin’s Goals, and the Collapse Threat

Putin’s Legacy Motivation: “He’s not motivated by money… he wants to be the man known for undoing the collapse of the Soviet Union.” ([17:33])
Cycle of Russian Expansion and Collapse: “Based on historical precedents, Russia is the most likely country in this world to collapse. They’ve done it twice in the last 110 years… getting very close…” ([19:32])
Containment vs. Collapse: West wants to prevent both an outright Russian victory and a dangerous Russian collapse leading to loose nukes and chaos ([20:28]).
Sanctions' Impact: Half of Russia’s national wealth fund frozen—$300 billion, unlikely to be returned; used instead for Ukrainian reparations after the war ([29:12]-[30:54]).

5. State of the War and Ukraine’s Resistance

Russian Military Incompetence & Losses: “The Russians are so corrupt and so incompetent... over three years, taken only an additional 1%.” ([54:20] and earlier)
Courage in Ukraine: Tales of besieged cities (e.g., Mariupol) and civilian/military resistance ([54:20]-[56:17]).

6. Propaganda, Censorship, and US Social Media

Elon Musk and ‘Grokipedia’ as Pro-Russia Disinfo: “Grokipedia directly sources information from the Kremlin.” ([33:29])
American Oligarchs Prefer Autocracy: “They are pro-autocracy because it is easier and more efficient for them to do business. Elon loves China…” ([35:27])
Personal Experience with Social Media Suppression: “My first Twitter account got deleted... I was a pro-Ukraine YouTuber in 2023 and I’m confident Elon... messes with private accounts on Twitter all the time.” ([36:33])
Censorship Nuances: Private platforms have rights to enforce community standards, but true government censorship is a different beast ([37:09]-[39:03]).

7. Fundraising for Ukraine and Community Efforts

Jake’s NGO Work: Over $7 million raised for Ukraine in last two years, delivering critical equipment through Estonian partners. “I don’t know any other YouTube channel aside from Sternenko that is consistently fundraising over a million dollars every couple months.” ([49:22]-[50:44])

8. Broader Geopolitical Risks: China and Global Security

China’s Vulnerability: China’s energy and food dependencies make it more susceptible to containment in a US conflict, unlike Russia ([41:40]-[43:04]).
US Posture: “The US policy has always been containment... If China invades Taiwan... nothing gets in, nothing gets out of China for six months and hundreds of millions will starve.” ([42:29]-[43:03])

9. Domestic US Politics—Systemic Problems

Cynicism on Both Parties: Deep criticism of both MAGA Republicans (described as ‘cult’) and ineffective Democrats. Predictions of generational shifts, primary challenges, and the need for new policy visions from the left ([67:22]-[70:03]).
Economic Anxiety: “For the average 30-year-old… first time in American history people are not prospering more than their parents’ generation.” ([69:08])
Tariffs & Economic Policy: “Who pays the tariff?... Americans. A tariff is a tax on imported goods.” — Broe, debunking Trump’s narratives ([64:34]-[65:59]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Pro-Russia Influencers:

“They’re not good faith actors or genuine people for me to like do a debate with them. I’m willing to have a conversation with anyone if I think they’re open to taking in new information or accepting reality as fact, but they don’t. They live in an alternate reality completely made up.” – Jake Broe ([03:57])
On Russia’s Religious Propaganda:

“The only church you’re allowed to join or be a part of is the Eastern Orthodox Church of Russia. Because they control all the priests, they control the Sunday sermons, they control the messaging, and it’s not very Christian. They are pro war, pro death, pro die for Putin.” – Jake Broe ([06:47])
On the Stagnation of Russian Offensives:

“Over the last thousand days, Russia has only taken an additional 1% of Ukraine’s territory.” – Jake Broe ([12:12])
On Putin vs. Trump:

“For Trump, everything is a business deal. How can I gain more power and wealth for myself and for my kids?... And Putin just looks at him and laughs. I’ve already got all the money I could ever want or need. The treasury of Russia is my personal bank account.” – Jake Broe ([16:26])
On Russia’s Repeated Historical Collapses:

“Based on historical precedents, Russia is the most likely country in this world to collapse. They’ve done it twice in the last 110 years.” – Jake Broe ([19:32])
On Why the War Endures:

“Putin is not giving us a choice. Putin could stop this war today and declare victory. Everything he’s taken, that’s all he’ll take... But Putin is now taking this personal because it’s his legacy.” – Jake Broe ([20:35])
On US Sanctions Freezing Russian Wealth:

“Half of the wealth fund of Russia on day one of this war was instantly frozen. It’s still frozen today.” – Jake Broe ([29:18]) “This money is going to be used to rebuild Ukraine. Everything that Russia has destroyed, they’re going to have to pay that.” ([30:54])
On Elon Musk’s Russia Ties:

“Elon’s Grokipedia uses the Kremlin as their primary source for anything having to do with Russia, Putin or Ukraine.” ([33:35]) “Elon does not support democracy. He does not like the democratic process because it is inefficient for business.” ([35:27])
On Trump’s Tactics with Zelenskyy:

“When Trump says, you know, give me your mineral, you know, the mineral deal, give me all of your mineral rights or whatever, Zelensky… has to be polite, you have to be nice, but you just tell Trump no....Trump was applying pressure, trying to bully and intimidate Zelenskyy to surrender this territory...And Zelenskyy just told him no.” – Jake Broe ([57:00])
On American Political Cynicism:

“Now, at this point, I just think MAG is a cult. Doesn’t matter what Trump says and does. People have their own beliefs and why they support him. And I’m not going to change anyone’s mind at this point. It’s been 10 years. Everyone has their final opinion on Donald Trump.” – Jake Broe ([65:49])

Timestamps for Important Segments

[01:06] Jake’s transition to war coverage and channel growth
[02:31] Why pro-Ukraine YouTubers have bigger audiences
[06:47] Russia’s use of Orthodox Church for propaganda, destruction of other churches
[09:10] Trump’s (and Biden’s) handling of the war
[12:12] Russia’s minimal territorial gains after thousands of days
[15:03] Trump’s deep business ties to Russia
[19:32] Russia’s historic collapses and Putin’s ambitions
[20:28] The West’s dilemma: contain Russia, but prevent collapse
[29:12] Russian state funds frozen in the West
[33:29] Elon Musk/Grokipedia disseminating Kremlin talking points
[35:27] American oligarchs’ preference for working with dictators
[41:40] China’s vulnerabilities compared to Russia
[49:22] Jake’s YouTube-driven fundraisers for Ukraine
[54:20] The siege of Mariupol and Ukraine’s resistance
[62:35] US government shutdown and health care policy
[65:49] Broe: “MAG is a cult… everyone has their final opinion on Donald Trump.”

Closing Thoughts

Where to find Jake Broe: [YouTube: Jake Broe]
Support Ukraine: Fundraiser link available via Jake Broe’s channel.

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Summary: "Russia Will Lose This War”: Veteran Explains What’s Really Happening - Jake Broe | Digital Social Hour #1633

Overview of the Episode

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pro-Ukraine vs. Pro-Russia Narratives on Social Media

2. Historical and Ethnic Context of the War

3. Western Policy, US Politics, and Trump’s Influence

4. Russia’s Path, Putin’s Goals, and the Collapse Threat

5. State of the War and Ukraine’s Resistance

6. Propaganda, Censorship, and US Social Media

7. Fundraising for Ukraine and Community Efforts

8. Broader Geopolitical Risks: China and Global Security

9. Domestic US Politics—Systemic Problems

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timestamps for Important Segments

Closing Thoughts

Summary

Summary: "Russia Will Lose This War”: Veteran Explains What’s Really Happening - Jake Broe | Digital Social Hour #1633

Overview of the Episode

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pro-Ukraine vs. Pro-Russia Narratives on Social Media

2. Historical and Ethnic Context of the War

3. Western Policy, US Politics, and Trump’s Influence

4. Russia’s Path, Putin’s Goals, and the Collapse Threat

5. State of the War and Ukraine’s Resistance

6. Propaganda, Censorship, and US Social Media

7. Fundraising for Ukraine and Community Efforts

8. Broader Geopolitical Risks: China and Global Security

9. Domestic US Politics—Systemic Problems

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timestamps for Important Segments

Closing Thoughts