Ryan Mcbeth: Trump Isn’t Pro-Russia. The Real Problem Is Inside the Pentagon | DSH #1571

Summary

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Digital Social Hour | Episode #1571

Guest: Ryan McBeth | Host: Sean Kelly
Date: October 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly hosts intelligence analyst, author, and YouTuber Ryan McBeth for a multifaceted conversation ranging from the future of the Russia-Ukraine conflict and the myth of “Trump is Pro-Russia,” to Pentagon priorities, military technology, Middle East dynamics, unconventional warfare, and the process of writing alternate history. The discussion mixes global geopolitics, personal anecdotes, and candid opinions, delivering unfiltered insights into the defense world.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. How Will the Russia-Ukraine War End?

[00:00 – 00:33; 38:17 – 43:33]

• Two Likely Scenarios:
  • Russia collapses as a nation, unable to sustain the war.
  • Negotiated settlement—neither Russia nor Ukraine gets all their demands.
  • “I actually believe that second option.” – Ryan McBeth [00:19]
  • “There’s lose and lose more... The question is, who loses more?” – McBeth [35:22]
• Prolonged wars are possible (“Seventy years before [Russia] takes all of Ukraine” [38:02]), but unlikely to last that long in modern times.
• Even if Russia seizes territory, McBeth sees their international isolation and economic problems as a net loss: “Who’s going to trade with them? How do they get their economy back?” [35:38]
• Ongoing analysis: McBeth tracks Russian fuel prices to measure the impact of Ukrainian drone strikes on oil refineries. [36:17]
• Drone Warfare: A glimpse into the future—Ukrainians deploy robotic assault vehicles and AI-enabled hunter-killer drone swarms. [41:43–43:33]
  • “These drones were shooting guns.” [42:28–42:31]
  • “Once you start an AI program, you can’t turn it off.” [43:44]

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2. Trump, Russia, and the Real Problem in the Pentagon

[38:40 – 39:57]

• McBeth challenges the narrative of Trump as consistently pro-Russia:
  • “I don’t think Trump supports Russia.” [38:42]
• The real issue, per McBeth, lies with Pentagon leadership, namely Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby:
  • “He has a raging war boner for China, like, bigger than mine.” [39:03]
  • Colby’s focus on China explains disruptions in military aid to Ukraine—resources are prioritized to prepare for a potential China conflict rather than supporting Ukraine.

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3. Alternate History—The “Last Republic”

[01:22 – 07:14]

• McBeth’s book imagines a world where Brigham Young and the Mormon pioneers founded an independent nation (Deseret) that persists into the modern era and sometimes clashes with the US.
• Details matter: McBeth travels to research real locations for accuracy, weaving music, history, and political satire into his narrative (“In my novel, Mitt Romney was president of Deseret. Trump was actually a Democrat. And he won two terms after Obama.” [06:12])
• The book investigates social problems, like “Lost Boys” resulting from polygamy, and riffs on present-day immigration debates (“We’re going to build a wall, and Deseret’s going to pay for it.” [06:57])

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4. Mormon Missionaries: America’s Linguistic Asset

[02:54 – 04:08]

• McBeth discusses how Latter-Day Saints (LDS) members return from missions fluent in diverse languages, significantly bolstering US military intelligence and translator/interrogator ranks.
  • “We would have a harder time protecting America without the LDS Church based in America.” [02:54]
  • “Their interrogator translators are so crucial to us understanding what is going on in other countries.” [04:08]

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5. Chinese Military Power & Parade Optics

[07:25 – 12:15]

• China’s military parades are more about spectacle than substance:
  • “When you look at China and these guys are marching in perfect step, well, that’s because they spent three months rehearsing that. So what are they not doing during those other three months? Training.” [08:21]
• Many vehicles are visually modified (“vis mods”), lacking operational anchor points—suggesting many are for show only.
• New small arms (QBZ 191) are being widely distributed, significant for such a large military (2.2 million personnel [10:21]).
• McBeth predicts US-China conflict within a few years:
  • “We will be at war with China in 2027 or 2028.” [11:12]
  • “When a dictator says something, you believe them… Xi Jinping’s literally said we’re going to invade [Taiwan].” [11:18–11:23]

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6. Israel, Palestine, and the Limits of Counterinsurgency

[13:53 – 35:22]

• McBeth shares firsthand reporting in Israel, navigating both the operational side (security briefings, device risks) and the human toll (covering attacks).
• Attempts to apply Iraqi “Sons of Iraq” strategy (arming moderate locals) to Palestine:
  • “I thought, why can’t we do this with the Palestinians? …When I went to Israel and I actually talked with some of the soldiers… I went, oh, I was wrong. We can't do that.” [25:21–25:38]
  • “If we armed moderate Palestinians… as soon as they were done killing Hamas, they would turn right and march right into Israel.” [25:44–25:50]
• McBeth is critical of Israeli leadership and their doctrine:
  • “Everyone at brigade level and above couldn’t find their ass with a flashlight, a map and a four-hour meeting.” [26:26]
  • Conscription leads to a brain drain at upper levels; those unable to do anything else or who are “really good” rise to general.
• Civilian casualties and “acceptable ratios” differ greatly between US and Israeli militaries (“We had an NCV [non-combatant casualty cutoff] of maybe 5. In Israel, at least one brigade was 20 to 1.” [28:12–28:45])
• Discusses the “middle ground” Israel is fighting in—not full counterinsurgency (COIN), not full-scale conventional war—leading to doctrinal confusion and high civilian casualties.

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7. Weaponization of Information and the Gaza War

[34:54 – 35:20]

• “Information warfare” is increasingly the battleground—Hamas can’t win militarily, but influences global opinion via civilian casualty narratives.
• “Hamas knows that they can’t win by force of arms. … The only way they can 'win'… is information war.” [35:00–35:20]

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8. War Crimes, Law, and the Reality of Modern Warfare

[28:52 – 32:14]

• McBeth delves into what constitutes actual war crimes (e.g., “perfidy” and the legal limits of battlefield deception), and how social media often misinforms or criminalizes actions that are legal under the laws of war.
• Displacement as a component of genocide—debates whether Israel’s choices could be smarter (“If Israel was smart, what they should have done was open the border down at Khan Yunus…” [31:01])

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9. Personal Threats, Fans, and Life as an Intel Personality

[16:38 – 21:16]

• McBeth’s growing fame leads to both positive fan encounters and dangerous situations (being stalked, threatened, or assaulted), sometimes requiring him to draw his gun.
• “I had a guy chase me down Route 495 in a Honda Civic… I have my gun out and I'm like, crap, I'm gonna have to… get into a gun battle on 495.” [18:04–18:30]
• He emphasizes never seeking confrontation, despite being well-armed and trained:
  • “When you choose to carry a gun, your very next motivation is never to use that weapon.” [19:07]

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10. Tech, Cars, and Everyday Life

[20:01 – 22:10]

• Personal anecdote: Gave up Tesla after negative encounters and technical issues, returns to his favored Ford Ranger:
  • “It was never me. I am a light truck guy.” [21:13]
  • “Tesla… there’s too many crazy people who want to come after me… because I’m driving a Tesla. They don't like Elon Musk.” [21:36]
• Both Ryan and Sean discuss car culture and climate effects on Tesla batteries.

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11. The Most Intriguing War: The “Toyota War”

[46:31 – 49:53]

• McBeth’s favorite obscure conflict: Libya’s invasion of Chad—won not by high technology but by the Chadian army’s use of rugged Toyota pickup trucks and machine guns (“technicals”):
  • “We just want pickup trucks and machine guns… and we can win the fight.” [47:13–48:32]
• Explains how these “technicals” became war staples, from Somalia to the Taliban.

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12. Reflections on World War II and the Morality of War

[49:53 – 51:56]

• Discussion of “the last good war”—with distinct good vs. evil narrative, and continued cultural fascination.
• Raises moral complexities:
  • “If we lost the war against the Japanese… we probably would have been put up on war crimes charges for dropping incendiary [bombs].” [50:48]
  • More died in Tokyo firebombing than in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. [51:00–51:56]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I wake up and I go to sleep every day thinking about how we can rapidly—and most efficiently—kill Chinese soldiers entering Taiwan.” — Ryan McBeth [12:13]
• “When a dictator says something, you believe them.” — McBeth on Xi Jinping’s Taiwan invasion preparations [11:23]
• “You have to view it in the totality of the circumstance.” — McBeth, on interpreting war crimes and social media coverage [30:29]
• “Everyone at brigade level and above couldn’t find their ass with a flashlight, a map and a four-hour meeting.” — McBeth, critiquing Israeli military leadership [26:26]
• “I've often said whenever you see someone firing a Javelin anti-tank missile, I want you to imagine dropping a Ferrari from a building, like in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.” [40:13]
• “There’s lose and lose more… The question is, who loses more?” — McBeth, on war outcomes [35:22]
• “If you can't pick them up, don't pick them up.” — Army wisdom, as recalled by McBeth [21:02]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–00:33 & 38:17–43:33 — McBeth on the endgame for Russia/Ukraine
• 11:12 — “We will be at war with China in 2027 or 2028.”
• 26:26 — Scathing critique of Israeli command structure
• 30:29 — Understanding war crimes in Ukraine
• 39:03 — “Elbridge Colby has a raging war boner for China…”
• 40:13 — The real cost of a Javelin missile
• 42:28 — “These drones were shooting guns.”
• 47:13–48:32 — The “Toyota War” and lessons of pickup-truck warfare
• 51:00–51:56 — Firebombing Tokyo vs. atomic bombs

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Closing

A fast-paced, no-holds-barred conversation, this episode delivers sharp analysis on global conflicts, the complex interplay of US politics and policy, the changing face of warfare, and the reality of military life in (and out) of the spotlight. McBeth’s experience and wit shine, making this episode a must-listen (or must-read) for anyone interested in world affairs, the military, or the strange possibilities of alternate history.

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Transcript

[Ryan McBeth]

Love asked me how this thing's going to end. Russia and Ukraine, it's going to end one of two ways. Either Russia fails as a nation because they just physically can't keep up with the war. Number two, there is some sort of peace plan put into place. Russia doesn't get Crimea back, they don't get the Donbas back.

[Ryan Macbeth]

There's peacekeepers in Donbas.

[Ryan McBeth]

Maybe for non aligned nations, whatever.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's the other way.

[Ryan McBeth]

Some sort of negotiated settlement. Ukraine doesn't get everything they want, and Russia doesn't get everything they want. I actually believe that second option.

[Interviewer]

Okay, guys, third time's the charm. We got Ryan. Not many guests make it on three times, man, so. Thank you. Pour up a glass.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Outstanding. So I. I absolutely love rye whiskey.

[Interviewer]

Oh, wait, could you keep the mic closer?

[Ryan Macbeth]

And I. I hope.

[Ryan McBeth]

I hope you enjoy. Cheers.

[Ryan Macbeth]

May you be in heaven. Tenness for the devil knows you're dead.

[Interviewer]

Is this the bottle I got you the first time you came on, or is this a different brand?

[Ryan Macbeth]

That. It's the same. I. I only drink this.

[Ryan McBeth]

I drink Angel.

[Interviewer]

I remember you requested it. I was like, what is that? Okay.

[Ryan McBeth]

It tastes really good. It is deliciousness in a bottle. And you can keep this.

[Interviewer]

Thank you.

[Ryan McBeth]

This is. This is absolutely yours. Sure.

[Interviewer]

Some guests would enjoy that, so thank you. It tastes really good. I will say I love this. Smooth. Very smooth. I wouldn't even need anything else.

[Ryan Macbeth]

No, I mean, I. I put a.

[Ryan McBeth]

Rock in it just to make it a little bit cold.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

I love this.

[Interviewer]

Well done.

[Ryan McBeth]

Over eye whiskey.

[Interviewer]

New book, obviously. Last Republic. That's why you're on another Padron, right?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, that's. That's why I'm, like, traveling all throughout the Southwest. Last Republic was a book I wrote.

[Ryan McBeth]

That imagines Brigham Young, the Mormon pioneer and prophet. He envisioned creating an entire country instead of just the territory of Utah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Initially, they were thinking about doing that because the Mormons got kicked out of every place they ever went.

[Ryan McBeth]

They just want to be left alone.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And so this book kind of imagines an alternate history where he actually did.

[Ryan McBeth]

That and what happens 170 years later when they clash with America. Well, that book's been out for about six months. I started writing a sequel, and I have to research various areas. So I drove, I flew into Arizona. I researched Winslow, Arizona, which is going to be the site of the big battle in my next book. And then I'm going to Las Vegas.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Because I'm here with my brother, and. And then I'm heading up to Salt.

[Ryan McBeth]

Lake City to Do a bunch of research, look into some archives and look at the. The Pioneer Museum where you can see.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I've been to the Pioneer Museum before.

[Ryan McBeth]

It was 10 years ago, but it has all the artifacts from the Mormon exodus, the hand carts that they had. You know, some of these guys, they, they, they marched without shoes. Either because they wore out their shoes or they wanted to save their shoes for a new life in Utah.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

You know, they marched through the snow barefoot.

[Interviewer]

Jeez.

[Ryan McBeth]

Like it was.

[Ryan Macbeth]

If you read about the Mormon exit.

[Ryan McBeth]

Is actually pretty fascinating.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And people ask me, are you a Mormon? Like, no, But I'm just their number one fan.

[Interviewer]

I asked you about it.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I've often said we would have a.

[Ryan McBeth]

Harder time protecting America without the LDS Church based in America.

[Interviewer]

Whoa.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And you want to know why now, don't you?

[Interviewer]

That's a hot take. I want to know why.

[Ryan McBeth]

Because so many LDs go away from mission, so Latter Day Saints, they go away for a two year mission and they go to a host country and they learn the language of that host country. They live in that host country. And when they come back, they have this language skill. Now. They don't send them to Arab countries, Muslim, predominantly Muslim countries, they don't do that. They do send them to Hong Kong, so they learn Chinese in Russia. So if you need to speak, if you need someone who speaks Bontu, odds are there was an LDS missionary who went to South Africa and learned the language. And. And he returned back home.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

And joined the army.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And so there is a unit in Utah.

[Ryan McBeth]

I believe it's a Utah National Guard unit. I believe it's an intelligence brigade. I can't remember the darn nomenclature of the brigade, but they. We would have a harder time defending America if it wasn't for the Mormon Church.

[Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Ryan McBeth]

Absolutely. Very interesting. Their language, their interrogator translators are so crucial to us understanding what is going on in other countries. That is cool.

[Interviewer]

Well, first of all, I love that you actually go boots on the ground and are willing to fly places to do research. That's really cool to me.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's. That's kind of the neat part about.

[Ryan McBeth]

Writing in a way. It's like people, trust me, they give me $11 and they say, ryan, tell me a story. But I want it to be cool.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And in order for it to be.

[Ryan McBeth]

Cool, I need to get the details right. One good example is in my novel, Winslow, Arizona is technically part of Deseret territory. That is enemy territory. Occupy Deseret now.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Remember that eagle song? Take it easy. There's the line standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Well, so in this world, when I write this book, I have to think, all right, did the Eagles still have.

[Ryan McBeth]

That line in that song?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Maybe they did.

[Ryan McBeth]

Because in this timeline, the United States goes to war with Deseret in 1931 over the construction of the Boulder Dam. They do a horrible job. It's the Depression. They're fighting on territory they don't know. The tank really hasn't been invented yet. It's not really in service in the US Army. Guys get lost in desert. Deseret hands their ass to the Americans, and they take most of Northern Arizona, and that becomes Helliman Province in my book.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And so that's. There's a question of when the eagles create the song. Take it Easy.

[Ryan McBeth]

Do they say Arizona? Singing on the corner of Windsor, Arizona, you going?

[Ryan Macbeth]

And I decide, yes, they do, because there's. Their grandparents probably fought in 1931. And there's a lot of Americans who.

[Ryan McBeth]

Don'T view Heliman Province as valid. They view it as American territory. The Deseret took. Interesting. So that's a thing to say during this battle. Someone recalls that. That song.

[Interviewer]

So you take the history part serious, but then you also incorporate, like, fantasy.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Absolutely. I mean, in. In my novel, Mitt Romney was president of Deseret. Trump was actually a Democrat.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And he won two terms after Obama. He was a Democrat. And one huge problem that America had.

[Ryan McBeth]

With Deseret was Lost Boys, which means.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That there were in Deseret. Polygamy is still a thing, you know, but it's rare.

[Ryan McBeth]

Like, maybe 10% of all couples are polygamists. It's just not practical in modern society, only the very wealthy and the very rural have multiple. Multiple wives.

[Ryan Macbeth]

But there is a problem with Lost boys.

[Ryan McBeth]

These are boys who can't get married. And so what do these boys do? Well, they cross the border into America to work illegally.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And Deseret's not sending their best. They're sending the losers who couldn't get married. And so Trump says, we're going to.

[Ryan McBeth]

Build a wall, and Deseret's going to pay for it.

[Interviewer]

Sounds similar, Right?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Well, that's the neat part about writing.

[Ryan McBeth]

An alternate history, because you put in.

[Ryan Macbeth]

These little Easter eggs, people can go, hey, I remember.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

But thank you for inviting me on to talk about this book, but I can talk about lots of other intel stuff.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. What's. What's fascinating in your world lately. I know you're constantly investigating all this stuff.

[Ryan McBeth]

China just had a massive victory Day parade. It was a parade that they used to celebrate their victory over Japan in 1945. And we saw a lot of new Chinese equipment, some which might be vis mods or visually modified equipment, meaning it isn't actually real, but they're making it look like it's real.

[Ryan Macbeth]

They marched really well. I know a lot of people look.

[Ryan McBeth]

At our military and they look at the parade that President Trump did for.

[Ryan Macbeth]

The army's birthday, and their marching wasn't great. The, the old guard, their marching was.

[Ryan McBeth]

Spot on because that's what they do. Yeah, right. Old guard, they march all the time. Their marching was great. The.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Regular army, some are good, some are okay, but we spend all our time training. And so when you look at China and these guys are marching in perfect step, well, that's because they spent three months rehearsing that.

[Ryan McBeth]

So what are they not doing during those other three months? Training.

[Interviewer]

A lot of optics, you're saying?

[Ryan Macbeth]

It is a lot of optics. Another thing I noticed was that a lot of the vehicles looked visually modified.

[Ryan McBeth]

In the sense that they didn't have anchor points.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So on many military vehicles, you want.

[Ryan McBeth]

To have these little, these cleats so you can tie down equipment, tie down Pioneer gear like picks, axes, shovels, extra equipment, you would tie it off to a certain place.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So looking at some of their equipment.

[Ryan McBeth]

They didn't have those tie downs.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So to me, that's an indicator of.

[Ryan McBeth]

This isn't actually a ready piece of equipment. This is something that they put, put into service just for this parade. Dragon missile.

[Interviewer]

So they want everyone to think they appear with advanced technology, you're saying.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And I, I think they certainly do. One interesting thing was their new rifle.

[Ryan McBeth]

Was the QBZ 191, which kind of looks like, kind of looks like an HK416.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Now granted, there's only so many ways.

[Ryan McBeth]

To make a rifle, right?

[Ryan Macbeth]

But they used to have this bullpup.

[Ryan McBeth]

Rifles called the QBZ 95. That was the rifle that was made famous when they took over Taiwan. We all looked and these guys were wearing, had these bullpup rifles with a magazine in back and you know, oh my God, China has this new rifle.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And you know, I often said, like, it's almost like a goth phase.

[Ryan McBeth]

Like every country goes through a bullpup phase.

[Ryan Macbeth]

They think like, hey, a bullpup rifle would be great. And then they try it out for 20 years and they go back to an HK416 type, right?

[Ryan McBeth]

A standard layout type.

[Ryan Macbeth]

What's interesting is that this was the.

[Ryan McBeth]

First parade I've seen where every single person has a QVZ 191 and they first fielded that in 2019. The Special Forces started using it in 2023. And now granted, we're not seeing the units that don't have this rifle yet, but they were able to fill out at least a division's worth of people with this rifle, so.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so they made a lot of them.

[Ryan McBeth]

Well, yeah. I mean they have to make enough for an army of 2.2 million people.

[Interviewer]

Jeez.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right?

[Interviewer]

That's how big their army is.

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[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah, I mean, I'm including other military forces as well, or rocket forces or cyber forces. It was roughly 2.2. I'm doing this off the top of my head, but I. Yeah, that's correct.

[Interviewer]

Do you see China as a big threat to America?

[Ryan Macbeth]

We will be at war with China.

[Ryan McBeth]

In 2027 or 2028.

[Interviewer]

Really? You're that convinced?

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Why? So what makes you so compelled?

[Ryan McBeth]

Because Xi Jinping's literally said we're going to invade. Oh, really?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, that's. That's kind of how it works. When a dictator says something, you believe them.

[Ryan McBeth]

He's told his army to be ready by 2027 to invade China, which is their 100th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party. And the pla, the People's Liberation army is a. It's not the army of China, you know.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Oh, the Chinese army.

[Ryan McBeth]

Well, they're not the Chinese army. The People's Liberation army is the army of the Communist Party in China.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And that's kind of why they have these weird names. Pla.

[Ryan McBeth]

People's Liberation army. Plagf. People's Liberation Army. Ground forces, Plain People's Liberation Army Navy. Because the People's Liberation army is the military wing of the party and they have a ground forces, a navy, an air force, a cyber force force, a rocket force.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So it's kind of interesting.

[Ryan McBeth]

It's.

[Ryan Macbeth]

If you look at actual Chinese history.

[Ryan McBeth]

You look at the actual revolution In China, which was kind of put on hold for World War II and then it renewed afterwards.

[Ryan Macbeth]

When you look at that, it was actually very common for Chinese political parties.

[Ryan McBeth]

To have armed wings and that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So it is, it is perfectly normal.

[Ryan McBeth]

In Chinese culture to have an armed wing of the political party. But China, I, I wake up and I go to sleep every day thinking about how we can rapidly and more, more most efficiently kill Chinese soldiers entering Taiwan.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap. That's your thought process?

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's when I wake up in the morning, I'm thinking, how can we kill Chinese?

[Ryan McBeth]

And when I go to bed at night, I'm thinking, how can we kill Chinese soldiers as they come off the boat?

[Interviewer]

So you would never visit China?

[Ryan McBeth]

I wouldn't be allowed to because I sold the security clearance. Wow. It was tough enough going to Israel.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. That must have been a process, huh?

[Ryan McBeth]

I had, I mean, I have to get a briefing and then, because the.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Israelis are our friends, but allies. They're allies. Depending on who you talk to, they're allies, but they're not necessarily our friends. Right. So I can tell you, like, you know, going to Israel, like, you go.

[Ryan McBeth]

With, all right, I need to buy a second laptop.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

I need to buy a second phone.

[Interviewer]

Because you didn't trust having your devices there.

[Ryan McBeth]

No, not one bit. Wow. Not one bit.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I, I have a lot of respect.

[Ryan McBeth]

For the Israeli military. I have a lot of respect for Israel, the country. But there, there, there is a level of, you know what, I know what your capabilities are.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And so I'm going to kind of go my own route.

[Interviewer]

Smart move.

[Ryan McBeth]

Do what I need to do to protect myself.

[Interviewer]

What was your objective going there? What were you trying to invest in?

[Ryan Macbeth]

So I was, I, I, I have.

[Ryan McBeth]

Another job working for Newsmax, which is.

[Ryan Macbeth]

A, not a conservative, but it's a.

[Ryan McBeth]

Conservative cable news channel. Yep. And they sent me there to do two stories. One on the, There was a rocket attack on some Dru's children in the north. This is by Hezbollah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Hezbollah was firing rockets.

[Ryan McBeth]

One went onto the soccer field, killed 12 children playing soccer. And I had another story about the 69th Hammer Squadron and what they did over Iran is they flew for 12 days straight, they flew to Iran, they refueled a midair over northern Iraq, the Kurdish controlled portion. They dropped bombs on Iran and they came back and there wasn't a single casualty. They didn't lose a single plane.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Ryan McBeth]

And what they did was, was pretty darn amazing. So that was kind of my mission we had.

[Ryan Macbeth]

There was some other stuff like I.

[Ryan McBeth]

I got a chance to cover. So funny story, I got a chance to cover a couple of stories that I interviewed the Israeli president, who doesn't do anything. He's kind of a figurehead. But I was able to ask one question, and then President Netanyahu came to speak, and I actually fell asleep. I was.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So exhausted because I, I, I, I like Newsmax. They've always treated me well, even though.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'm not a conservative. They still treat me, you know, like a, like a, you know, like a valued contributor. But they were working us, like 5 in the morning, 11 at night.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You, you have to file, you, you know, because they need to make money too. Right.

[Ryan McBeth]

They're not sending us there for a vacation. They're there to work.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Like, I had a number of Israelis say, like, ryan, come, come, come and, come and meet my family and come to Shabbat and do this and do that and like, that. I am working. You know, I'd love to meet your mom. You know, she hot? That was actually kind of the weird thing. Like, I'm 50 years old. I know I don't look good, but I'm 50 years old. I was thinking, like, man, maybe I'll be. There's got to be a lot of divorces from the war going on for two years. There's gotta be plenty of women my age who are single now. Didn't see it. I saw plenty of people were like, are you, Are you?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's funny. It's cool. You see, to see you have fans out there, though.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It is very, like. Do you get recognized internationally?

[Interviewer]

I don't travel internationally enough, but definitely domestically. Like, at airports. I'll get stopped.

[Ryan McBeth]

Oh, you're very tall.

[Interviewer]

I'm tall. I'm Asian with curly hair. I'm definitely recognizable.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Not a lot of people look like me, but you have a pretty distinct.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean, I wear a hat.

[Interviewer]

You're probably walking around with whiskey, whiskey.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Cigar hanging out of my mouth. Right.

[Interviewer]

You.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Sorry, you can't smoke here. Yeah, it's okay. I'm Ryan Macbeth.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean, I get recognized a lot, which is the first couple of times it was weird.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And I don't, I don't mind it. Like, now I'm at the point where.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'll say to somebody, would you like a selfie? Because I can tell they want to.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

But they don't want to, like, be weird about it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And I, I would say 99% of all my react, My interactions with fans have been positive. One time, a guy, like, was Coming out of the bathroom. Yeah. And this guy touched my shoulder and.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I turned and I grabbed my gun and it cleared leather. I was ready to go.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean, I've had Russians threaten me. I've had other Americans threaten me, you.

[Ryan McBeth]

Know, And God knows the. The pro Hamas people.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

With their planet. Right. And the guy was like, no, no.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I just saw you. I wanted to. I look over at. His family is over there. The guy, like, was that I was up. I think I was seeing Oppenheimer.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And like, I came out of the bathroom and the guy touched like, don't touch someone.

[Interviewer]

Never.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's weird.

[Interviewer]

Never.

[Ryan McBeth]

That's weird.

[Interviewer]

No, there's. There's lines. You don't. Especially bathrooms aligned for me. Like, that's a weird spot to greet someone, especially at the urinal.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

While you're eating. I feel like it's a little invasive at a restaurant, you know?

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I don't.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'm trying to think.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Have I been. I don't think I've ever been known.

[Ryan McBeth]

To ever come up to me at a table at a restaurant, but at the airport all the time.

[Interviewer]

Airport for sure.

[Ryan McBeth]

Airport all.

[Interviewer]

Any haters ever come up to you?

[Ryan McBeth]

I once had a guy chase me down Route 495 in a Honda Civic, a black Honda Civic that had been painted, like, hand painted black with like, brush paint and then written on it in white, paint us off NATO borders.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So this guy was.

[Ryan McBeth]

Was. Was driving down 495 in Washington D.C. where I live. Yeah. And he's trying to cut me off and, like, trying to get me to stop. And I have my gun out and I'm like, crap, I'm gonna have to.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Freaking get into a gun battle on 495. Right.

[Interviewer]

Like, so he recognized you or was it a road rage thing?

[Ryan Macbeth]

I don't. No, no, no. He rec.

[Ryan McBeth]

He was following me.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

Which has happened before.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah. Like, I had a guy follow me around ikea.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah, I was at Ikea and this dude was, like, following me around ikea.

[Interviewer]

Dude. That's wild. At what point do you confront them for that?

[Ryan McBeth]

You don't.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I don't think so. You know what's. What's weird is occasionally you see, like.

[Ryan McBeth]

Ultra liberal people go, like, you know.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Oh, you know, these gun owners, they don't want to come into the city because they're afraid of the homeless. They're afraid of, like, when you. When you choose to carry a gun.

[Ryan McBeth]

Your very next motivation is never to use that weapon. Right. Ever.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So you don't even put yourself into.

[Ryan McBeth]

Situations so you don't confront anybody.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You can't. You walk away. In the case of the guy on 495, I was. I got off on an exit. I went. I had a Tesla at the time.

[Ryan McBeth]

I just typed in the police station closed.

[Ryan Macbeth]

The police station went right there.

[Ryan McBeth]

Guy pulled away.

[Interviewer]

Smart.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I'm not.

[Ryan McBeth]

I don't.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Look, I pay. I think I pay $60 a month for USCCA.

[Ryan McBeth]

You know, the platinum plan. No, that doesn't mean I want to use it.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Makes sense.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Especially in the state that you're in. You could. You could be the one that gets in trouble for using it.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You could be. I mean, you have to be smart about it. I mean, it's something that you use to defend yourself if you ever have to. But you shouldn't go looking for it, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ryan McBeth]

Never go looking for it.

[Interviewer]

And then Elon switched up. Is that when you got rid of the Tesla?

[Ryan Macbeth]

I did get rid of the Tesla. Did you watch that video?

[Interviewer]

I actually didn't.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So I, I, you know, I had.

[Ryan McBeth]

A Tesla for the longest time, and I was in.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I liked my Tesla. So funny story.

[Ryan McBeth]

I had a Ford Ranger, A candy apple red Ford Ranger. I was in the military. I had that thing for. Since 1998. When I got to. When I started working at Accenture, doing intel stuff, doing the intel software, I was a manager. I'm like, crap, you know, I should probably get it.

[Ryan Macbeth]

But I'm like, taking out. Taking people out to lunch. Taking clients out.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And new employees in 1998, candy apple red, you know, Ford Ranger, extended cab with a tape deck.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right. Like when I was a sergeant in the army, it was a.

[Ryan McBeth]

It was a.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It was great. Right, because you couldn't get a fat.

[Ryan McBeth]

Chick in there yet.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You can only date skinny girls. Right?

[Ryan McBeth]

But I guess you could put them in the bed. But my old first sergeant said, if you can't pick them up, don't pick them up.

[Interviewer]

Good rule.

[Ryan McBeth]

Good rule.

[Ryan Macbeth]

But I remember, you know, I'm driving people to.

[Ryan McBeth]

To lunch, and it's like, man, I.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Need to get a better car.

[Ryan McBeth]

So I bought a Tesla, but it was never me.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Like, it wasn't me.

[Ryan McBeth]

I am a light truck guy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And so when. When I had. When I was driving in Washington, D.C. and I have a D.C. carry permit, someone, he started approaching my vehicle. I couldn't see his hands. He started going, f elon Musk. You know, as he's approaching me and.

[Ryan Macbeth]

A gun comes out again, and the light turns green.

[Ryan McBeth]

And I, I just go, like, that's the best way to handle it. Lights green. Go, don't. And that's when I thought, I need to get rid of this car. Because there's too many crazy people.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And who want to come after me.

[Ryan McBeth]

Not because I'm Ryan McBeth, but because I'm bribing Tesla. They don't like Elon Musk.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You know what the other thing that pissed me off? The B pillar trim always kept popping out. I had it fixed like twice and it just kept popping out.

[Interviewer]

Same with mine.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Ford fixed this 30 years ago. And so I went and I bought a Ford Ranger.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And I'm happy again.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I like my light truck. I can carry plywood in it. I still do carpentry.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I'm an SUV guy myself. I had a Tesla Model 3. I'm too tall for it. And it was never me. And out here in Vegas, man, the battery would die in like two trips.

[Ryan McBeth]

Really?

[Interviewer]

And then I'd have to charge it. Yeah. Because hot out, the battery dies quicker.

[Ryan McBeth]

I actually, I didn't know that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I would figure here.

[Ryan McBeth]

It'd be great. You probably have solar on your house and all that.

[Interviewer]

I do have solar on the house, but yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

This is like one of the few.

[Ryan McBeth]

Places solar makes absolute sense.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah. I think we made it back already.

[Ryan McBeth]

Like it's, it's sunny all the time here.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

You like living here, right?

[Interviewer]

I like it. Summers are a little rough. You know, I go to the east coast in the summers. D.C. and New York. Film out there for a bit.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Do you actually take advantage of like.

[Ryan McBeth]

The, the casinos and the shows?

[Interviewer]

I go to the shows, yeah, the casinos. Food is pricey, so locals don't really go there.

[Ryan McBeth]

Really?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, we eat off Strip.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So. Do you know Jake bro, the Ukraine guy?

[Ryan McBeth]

No.

[Interviewer]

Is he out here?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, he's here.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'm going to see him probably tonight. We're going to dinner.

[Interviewer]

He's a Ukraine guy. Like, he's pro Ukraine.

[Ryan McBeth]

Pro Ukraine. He has a whole show he does about Ukraine. Here's what's going on in Ukraine. He raised millions of dollars.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Ukraine.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'm actually trying to raise 100,000 for my 50th birthday.

[Interviewer]

Nice. For what?

[Ryan Macbeth]

For non lethal stuff because I have a security clearance still.

[Ryan McBeth]

So I can't like send lethal aid over. I can't send money because, like you.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Send money to an organization that's using.

[Ryan McBeth]

Lethal aid and it's like as of on a list, like, you're screwed.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

So I, I, my thing is Non lethal aid. We're talking about first aid kits, trucks, gasoline.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Ryan McBeth]

Just stuff. Stuff people respect.

[Interviewer]

We'll link your donation link in the video.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's really kind of.

[Interviewer]

I used to see the Ukraine stuff all over my social media. Now I feel like it's all Israel on my feet, at least. I don't know about yours.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean, there's.

[Ryan McBeth]

It's.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's a horrible thing to say, but.

[Ryan McBeth]

The lines in Ukraine are mostly static. But if so, there's really not much to report on other than, hey, Ukraine is using this new kind of weapon. I mean, I can talk about some of the drones that are coming out of Ukraine, some of the advances in AI automated targeting, but I think one of the issues with Israel is that it'll get clicks a lot and what makes money.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right. Because we're at the point now where people are.

[Ryan McBeth]

No, no one's in the middle.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

You either think Israel's a genocidal monster or you think that Israel's just trying to defend itself. Right. There's really no one in the middle now.

[Interviewer]

That's true. Everyone's chosen their side.

[Ryan McBeth]

Everyone's chosen their side.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And for the most part, it seems like a lot of people have gone over to the terrorist side.

[Interviewer]

They've gone to the Palestine signs. Right. On Twitter. At least that's what I see.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean, it's. It's. What's kind of interesting about the whole.

[Ryan McBeth]

Thing is that when I, When I first. When I went to Israel, I had. I used to have this idea, and General Petraeus had the same idea, which was, we need to create a Sons of Palestine, which in Iraq. We created the Sons of Iraq, which were moderate Iraqis who were Sunni Muslim. And we paid them $250 a month, and we gave them a rifle and two weeks of training and said, okay.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Go defend your country.

[Ryan McBeth]

Go man this checkpoint. Go find these terrorists and kill them.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right.

[Ryan McBeth]

Go take back your country. I thought, why can't we do this with the Palestinians?

[Ryan Macbeth]

General Petraeus said the same thing. And then when I went to Israel and I actually talked with some of.

[Ryan McBeth]

The soldiers and I talked with some.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Of the victims of October 7th, I.

[Ryan McBeth]

Went, oh, I was wrong. We can't do that. Wow.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Because if we armed moderate Palestinians, as soon as they were done killing Hezbollah.

[Ryan McBeth]

Or as soon as they were done killing Hamas, they would turn right and march right into Israel.

[Interviewer]

You think so?

[Ryan McBeth]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

Without a doubt.

[Interviewer]

Because Hamas is painted as the villain.

[Ryan McBeth]

They're the villain.

[Ryan Macbeth]

There's no, you know, there's no, there's.

[Ryan McBeth]

No other better way to put that. They're the villain. When you look at, I mean, I.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Saw a video where and it actually.

[Ryan McBeth]

One of Israel's mistakes.

[Ryan Macbeth]

But don't get me wrong, Israel has made a lot of mistakes and I've.

[Ryan McBeth]

Called them out on certain things.

[Interviewer]

That's why I like the way you report too.

[Ryan McBeth]

When they've made mistakes, I'm like, dude, you're screwing this up. Don't do this.

[Interviewer]

You don't have blind allegiance towards one side.

[Ryan McBeth]

I don't.

[Ryan Macbeth]

But speaking as a former army sergeant.

[Ryan McBeth]

Army nco, I can look at Israel.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And go, you're screwing this up because.

[Ryan McBeth]

You'Re trying to do this on the cheap because you don't have professional non commissioned officers. And when I went to Israel, like everyone who was at brigade level and below, they were amazing. Everyone at brigade level and above couldn't find their ass with a flashlight, a map in a four hour meeting.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that is interesting.

[Ryan McBeth]

Right?

[Interviewer]

So poor leadership.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I have never met a people so.

[Ryan McBeth]

Confident in their own incompetence.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's just, it's absolutely like, how the.

[Ryan McBeth]

Hell are you guys a country?

[Interviewer]

I wonder how it got to that point where the leadership struggles like that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I don't know. I mean, I guess what I can.

[Ryan McBeth]

Think of is that for the most part a lot of people who join. So Israel is conscripted. Right. Everyone joins. And if you are.

[Ryan Macbeth]

If for the most part people do their. It's almost three years now if you're.

[Ryan McBeth]

Male, I think it's two years for female.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You do your, you do your time.

[Ryan McBeth]

And you get the hell out and you go do something else.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And then you're a reservist until like.

[Ryan McBeth]

You either 40 or 43 or 45, I can't remember the exact number. It depends on what you did.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So for the most part people do their two years and they get the hell out.

[Ryan McBeth]

And then the next thing they do is they backpack all around Lake Asia and India and they come back and they start college. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Ryan McBeth]

And they start a business where they come to New York and open up a stereo shop. Right.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Like they do like one of the.

[Ryan McBeth]

They do that in order essentially. But one thing nobody does is stay in.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So the people that stay in are either really good at it or they.

[Ryan McBeth]

Can'T do anything else.

[Interviewer]

They don't have a plan B.

[Ryan McBeth]

They don't have a plan B.

[Interviewer]

That makes sense.

[Ryan McBeth]

And if, if those people just kind of keep rising up. Yeah. Eventually they're at Brigadier General level and they're in command of the division, they're in command of the theater.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And they're like, yeah, we're going to have an NCV, a non combatant casualty cut off of 20. We can kill 20 civilians in order to kill one bad guy. In the US army we had an.

[Ryan McBeth]

NCV of maybe 5.

[Interviewer]

Really 5 to 1.

[Ryan McBeth]

And that like 99% of the time it was zero if we were going to kill.

[Ryan Macbeth]

If we were looking for Daddy El.

[Ryan McBeth]

Batty, and there was one civilian with Daddy El Batty, we couldn't kill Daddy.

[Interviewer]

Wow. And they're willing to go 20 to 1.

[Ryan McBeth]

In Israel, at least one brigade was holy crap.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Which is that a lot.

[Interviewer]

And that's where I think the big issues are that I see at least on social media when there's civilian casualties. Right.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean look, you just because one thing a lot of people don't seem.

[Ryan McBeth]

To understand, they saw this with Ukraine.

[Ryan Macbeth]

People said, oh my God, that's a war crime. Like actually it's kind of not. You are allowed to do that thing because war is so foreign to so many people.

[Ryan McBeth]

Or they only know what they saw in Call of Duty. They don't understand what is a war crime and what is not a war crime. One good example is perfidy, where you can't wear the enemy's uniform, where you can't feign surrender in order to gain an advantage. You can't do that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You can use deception, but you can't.

[Interviewer]

Like a spy.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Or like you can shout for someone like, yeah, over here, come over here. We're friendly troops over here. And then when the guy gets there.

[Ryan McBeth]

You'Re not friendly and you go, you.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Can do that, but you can't wear.

[Ryan McBeth]

The enemy's uniform while you're doing it.

[Interviewer]

I never knew that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's actually perfect.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's good to know.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Or if you're surrendering, you can't fake surrender and then whip out your guns.

[Ryan McBeth]

And ah, can't do that either.

[Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So I saw just a couple of.

[Ryan McBeth]

Days ago there was a Ukrainian who convinced a bunch of Russians to come over him to him and he shot him. And they said this is a war crime.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Well, from the distance we're out viewing this thing from the drone, I can't.

[Ryan McBeth]

Tell who's wearing what camouflage because it's all just kind of green. So I don't know if this is perfidy or not. And I don't know what they're saying on the ground.

[Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Ryan McBeth]

You know, I don't know if the Guy is claiming, I'm surrendering.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. So it could have been anything.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It could be anything. And that's something. Yeah. If you're pro Russia, you're going to.

[Ryan McBeth]

View it one way. If you're pro Ukraine, you're going to be at the other way. You need to view it in the totality of the circumstance.

[Interviewer]

What was the war crime that Netanyahu was being tried for? Because I saw that online is being.

[Ryan McBeth]

Tried for or wanted for. You know, I actually don't know, but you can probably pick your poison on that. I'd actually have to think about that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Because I am not a lawyer.

[Ryan McBeth]

And it would be like a Hague thing to say. Like, all right, you know, we are.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I guess. I guess. So. Here's.

[Ryan McBeth]

Here's kind of the funny thing.

[Ryan Macbeth]

One. One thing you could probably say is.

[Ryan McBeth]

Israel is displacing people, which I don't know if that's necessarily a war crime, but I guess one component of genocide might be displacement of peoples. However, like, one of the things that I always kind of wondered about the conflict was if Israel was smart. What they should have done was open the border down at Khan Yunus, at the Kerem Shalom crossing. Open all their crossings, let women and children into Israel, put them up in camps.

[Ryan Macbeth]

If you want to come in, come in through the crossing.

[Ryan McBeth]

We're going to search you as you come in. We're going to put you in a camp. We're going to give you food, we're going to give you water, we're going to give you medical care. We're going to set up a school for your kids. And then we're going to walk north through Gaza and kill everybody who isn't dressed like us. That would have been the smart thing.

[Ryan Macbeth]

To do or ask.

[Ryan McBeth]

Egypt, open up your border at Rafa Rafa crossing. Let people in, build a camp. Egypt wouldn't want that because they're terrified of the Palestinians. They hate them because they're associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood? Is this not so nice terrorist organization inside of Egypt?

[Interviewer]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Oh.

[Ryan McBeth]

Oh, my God. The Egyptians, they hate the Palestinians.

[Interviewer]

Wow. I haven't looked into the Muslim Brotherhood, but that might be another rabbit hole I got to dive into.

[Ryan McBeth]

They hate Palestinians, so ideally we should.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Have done that, but if Israel had.

[Ryan McBeth]

Done that, people would go, oh, my.

[Ryan Macbeth]

God, they're displacing the Palestinians from their land. The reason that you see a lot.

[Ryan McBeth]

Of civilian casualties in this particular war is that this is the first time I can think of in modern. Yeah, I think this is the first time I've ever seen a LISCO conflict, a large scale combat operation where we didn't let people leave.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Now Israel did let people, like, all.

[Ryan McBeth]

Right, well you can go from Gaza City down to Khan Yunis and then we're going to have you go from Khan Yunis all the way back up to Gaza City.

[Ryan Macbeth]

They did that thing, but we didn't.

[Ryan McBeth]

Let them leave the area. They're still in an area with tunnels and tunnels are everywhere. There's more tunnels underneath Gaza than there are subway track in New York City.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Ryan McBeth]

Between 350 and 450 miles. And the number keeps changing every day as they find more stuff.

[Interviewer]

And are people escaping through those or.

[Ryan McBeth]

What are they being done?

[Ryan Macbeth]

No, no, it's just that one of the reasons you see all these destroyed houses, it's two reasons.

[Ryan McBeth]

The first is IDs, improvised explosive devices. So the bad guys, up to 70% of the houses in Gaza have IEDs and stuff.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So if you're an Israeli squad, you're.

[Ryan McBeth]

Like, I'm not clearing that building. Bring in the D9, bring in the bulldozer, crash the house.

[Interviewer]

They don't chance it.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah, no, they don't chance it. The other thing is tunnels. There's so many tunnels underneath that when they find a tunnel and they put explosives in it and they collapse the tunnel, all the houses on top collapse as well.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So one of the issues that Israel's had is that, you know, there's essentially.

[Ryan McBeth]

Two types of warfare. Liscal, large scale combat operations, state on state actions like World War II. That's a Lisco thing. And there is coin, counterinsurgency. That was Vietnam. Try to win hearts and minds, get the people on your side, that kind of thing. I think the reason the war in Gaza is kind of ending up the way it is is that Israel's trying to do something that's in the middle. And so what they're ending up with is losses, unacceptable losses on the civilian side. And this general sense of like, we don't know what we're doing and you don't know what you're doing because there is no doctrine for it. There's no doctrine for this middle of the road thing. There's COIN doctrine, those counterinsurgency doctrines. General Petraeus wrote it.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I'll, I'll give Israel my copy. Maybe they ought to follow it, you know, but if you're trying to do list operations and there's still people inside the community. Yeah, you're going to kill a Hell.

[Ryan McBeth]

Of a lot of people.

[Interviewer]

And that's where information warfare comes into play. And then they blast it everywhere. And now a lot of people are against them. Right.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Well, Hamas knows that they can't win.

[Ryan McBeth]

By force of arms. Right. Hamas is finished. They are dead men.

[Interviewer]

You think so?

[Ryan McBeth]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

They're dead men.

[Ryan Macbeth]

There, there's.

[Ryan McBeth]

Israel will hunt them down until there's not a single man left. That being said, the only way they can win, and I'm putting that in.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Quotes, because there's no win.

[Ryan McBeth]

There's lose and lose more. I've said the same thing about Ukraine.

[Ryan Macbeth]

He was like, oh, you say Ukraine is going to win? No, Ukraine is going to lose. And Russia is going to lose.

[Ryan McBeth]

The question is who loses more.

[Interviewer]

You don't think Russia wins if they get the land they wanted?

[Ryan Macbeth]

No, I still consider it a loss.

[Ryan McBeth]

Because who's going to trade with them? How do they get their economy back?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Because you have these oligarchs, these Russian.

[Ryan McBeth]

Oligarchs who helped fund this war against Ukraine. They're the ones paying the high taxes. They're the ones getting hit with. I think it's a 21, 22% inflation.

[Interviewer]

Geez.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Gas prices in Israel are up to.

[Ryan McBeth]

Like, I want a dollar dollar. Oh, three a liter, which might seem cheap to us, but.

[Interviewer]

A liter?

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah, you have to do the conversion to rubles.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I don't know the conversion.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And it was once like 33 cents per liter.

[Ryan McBeth]

Okay, so like going up like. God, three times. Yeah, right. Two times. Three times.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's a lot.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'm actually doing some research about that right now. I'm looking at some of the. Because Ukraine keeps striking Russian oil facilities. There's 80 Russian oil refineries.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And my, My theory is like, every.

[Ryan McBeth]

Time they strike an oil refinery, does the price of gas go up?

[Ryan Macbeth]

So I downloaded all the Russian gas prices week by week, trying to map every single strike. I know. That's what I do.

[Interviewer]

You're the only one that does that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I am the only one that does that. You're right. But then I have this. This intelligence packet. I.

[Interviewer]

You could leverage that to make money. I bet. Somehow.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I mean, I do. I mean, I have my sub stack. It's only $5 a month. And when you join my substack, you get access to all these papers. I just wrote a paper today.

[Ryan McBeth]

Well, not today. I mean, I wrote it two months ago, but I just released a video today that was the subject of a paper. The video was about this paper that I did that was about all of the Russian efforts in Africa, in the Arctic, in the Middle East, Because Russia.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Has some bases in Middle east and.

[Ryan McBeth]

They have bases in Africa. They're expanding into the Arctic. As global warming heats up and more areas melt and you have Russian permafrost, you know, like that, that part of Siberia becomes easier to mine. You know, a lot of natural resources are going to be exposed, and Russia is perfectly positioned to exploit those natural resources.

[Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Ryan McBeth]

If they can find the funding to do it, because the funding is going to come inside Russia. Most of their oil extraction equipment is western. So, okay, they might win.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Let's say they, they do manage to.

[Ryan McBeth]

Capture Ukraine, which if we're going by square kilometers gained every week, It'll be about 70 years before they take all of.

[Interviewer]

Damn. Seven more years.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Seventy.

[Interviewer]

Oh, seven.

[Ryan McBeth]

Seventy. That's how slow Russia.

[Interviewer]

The wars never last that long, so that's.

[Ryan McBeth]

There's 100 years war.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Ryan Macbeth]

You know, yeah, it was like in.

[Ryan McBeth]

The medieval times, but yeah, modern wars.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I guess, no, they don't.

[Ryan McBeth]

Tend to last that long because I, I, I. People have asked me how this thing's going to end, Russia and Ukraine, and.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I've said that it's going to end.

[Ryan McBeth]

One of two ways. Either Russia fails as a nation because they just physically can't keep up with the war. They can't.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. With Trump's support, that probably wouldn't happen though, right?

[Ryan Macbeth]

I don't think Trump supports Russia.

[Ryan McBeth]

I.

[Interviewer]

Boy, what a statement right there.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, yeah, flip that up. Yeah, that's, that's a good one. That, that there's a short for you right there. I don't think Trump support Rush.

[Ryan McBeth]

Trump supports Russia. But there is a person, an Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. His name is Elbridge Colby.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You look the guy up. Elbridge Colby looks like every guy who.

[Ryan McBeth]

Ever fired your dad.

[Ryan Macbeth]

All right? But he happens to be the Undersecretary.

[Ryan McBeth]

Of Defense for Policy. And this guy has a raging war boner for China, like, bigger than mine. And.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's hard to do.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's hard to do. And so that's why, like, remember a.

[Ryan McBeth]

Couple months ago, we suddenly stopped all armed shipments to Ukraine, and the President was like, what the hell did you do that for?

[Ryan Macbeth]

That was Elbridge Colby.

[Ryan McBeth]

Oh, he just took it on his own to just.

[Interviewer]

Wow, he had that authority to do that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's not that he hates Ukraine, it's that he really hates China. And to him, every single weapon system.

[Ryan McBeth]

We send over to China is. Or every single weapon system we send over to Ukraine is one less we can use against China.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's one of the reasons, like there's a lot of YouTubers doing all these videos about we're going to invade Venezuela.

[Ryan McBeth]

Oh my God. Over Elbridge Colby's dead freaking body. Are we invading Venezuela?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

That would take so many resources, so many missiles that we just don't have.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, we got to save it for China.

[Ryan McBeth]

We got to save it for China.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And we might. You know we fired a hellfire at.

[Ryan McBeth]

One trend fast boat, right? Hellfire is $60,000.

[Interviewer]

Damn. Just for one missile. Holy crap.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I've often said whenever you see someone firing a Javelin anti tank missile, I.

[Ryan McBeth]

Want you to imagine dropping a Ferrari from a building league in Ferris Bueller's Day off.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah. That's not roughly how much it costs.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so that's the first way you could see it ending. Russia fails. What was the second way?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, so the first way Russia fails.

[Ryan McBeth]

As a nation, they collapse. And you have a bunch of warlords fighting each other in Russia. And that's how Ukraine gets back Crimea and the Donbas. This number two is there is some sort of peace plan put into place. Russia doesn't get Crimea back, they don't get the Donbas back.

[Ryan Macbeth]

There's peacekeepers in Donbas.

[Ryan McBeth]

Maybe for non aligned nations like Myanmar.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right.

[Ryan McBeth]

They can send troops. Or Brazil, they might send troops to be on the border. And then you have like a, almost like the multinational force and observers in Israel and Egypt where you have an A zone, a B zone and C zone and you're allowed a thousand troops in the A zone and you know, 10,000 troops in the B zone. The C zone is whatever.

[Ryan Macbeth]

That's, that's the other way I see it anyway.

[Ryan McBeth]

Some sort of negotiated settlement. Ukraine doesn't get everything they want and Russia doesn't get everything they want. I actually believe that second option is most likely. I don't necessarily see Ukraine getting Crimea back unless Russia collapses. It's just, it's, it's too, it's a bridge too far. Yeah. There is one narrow land strip going into Crimea. It would have to be an amphibious operation. Amphibious operations are hard. And Ukraine just doesn't have the troops to make a breakthrough like that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

They are working on like robotic assault vehicles.

[Ryan McBeth]

So like maybe they self driving or.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, so commanded by a person now. So essentially there was just, I think.

[Ryan McBeth]

Back in December there was a national guard unit, Ukrainian National Guard unit that sent these killer robots into a Russian position. They were actually able to shoot and.

[Ryan Macbeth]

They captured people robot and they were guided by people with joystick controllers. And the, the, the robot would send.

[Ryan McBeth]

Data up to a drone that was hovering. And that drone was acting as a relay station to.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Signal.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah, they had an all drone attack. It was mainly small wheel drones using pks, which are machine gun, A medium machine gun.

[Interviewer]

These drones were shooting guns.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Wow. I need to see a video of that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, I could say that's crazy.

[Interviewer]

So that's the future of war right there.

[Ryan McBeth]

Well, that and drone swarm. So Ukraine has already worked on drones where they have a spotter drone and they have two killers. So it's a hunter. Hunter, killer.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, and these. So you.

[Ryan McBeth]

Or the, the. Oh my God. It's a copy of the Shit.

[Ryan Macbeth]

The Seth.

[Ryan McBeth]

The Seph drone already has a programming controller where you say, okay, I want you to fly to this area, I want you to look for a tank. If you can't find a tank, I want you to find an armored personnel carrier. If you can't find our personnel carrier, try to find a command vehicle. And so the drone is using AI pattern matching, image recognition.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah, that is nuts. There's a tank.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Okay. Now the next phase of that is.

[Ryan McBeth]

You have a controller and you have two attack drones. And these two attack drones are like, all right, what are we looking for? And the controller goes, all right, well, we're going to try to find this thing. If we can't find it, we find this thing. And so the two attack drones hit their targets and the controller flies back and lands.

[Interviewer]

Is there a way to disable those at the moment or.

[Ryan Macbeth]

No. The funny thing is that for the.

[Ryan McBeth]

Most part, once you start an AI program, there's no.

[Interviewer]

You can't turn it off.

[Ryan McBeth]

You can't turn it off.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You can use something like a semaphore.

[Ryan McBeth]

So you might show like a visual, visual representation of a letter or a character. And that'll let you know, get on program. And then when you see this other character. Okay, off program. And you need that to like. Let's say you launch these drones from a certain location and they're supposed to come back to another location to land, but that location is compromised. You might put panels there that spell out a letter. Yeah, so the thing reads that letter and goes, oh, I have to go to the secondary site.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Because as soon as you put a radar or if.

[Ryan McBeth]

As soon as you put a radio on something, it can be jammed or it can be hacked.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's what I was wondering if, if someone was sending a drone to the U.S. could we disable it, I guess remotely somehow with jamming or something?

[Ryan Macbeth]

It would. So, like, are they launching the drone from.

[Interviewer]

From the US I guess they'd have to, right? Because it'd be too far away. If they launch it from somewhere else.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You could probably so. One of my big fears.

[Ryan McBeth]

I mean, I occasionally go down to Virginia Beach. There's a girl I know down there.

[Interviewer]

You know, love the ladies.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Well, it's. It's. It is. It is absolutely amazing what I do. Yes. I will drive four hours. But although it's interesting is every. Every.

[Ryan McBeth]

Every year this girl's condo association tries to ban smoking.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

In the building.

[Interviewer]

Oh, they don't like you there.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And, you know, I'm like, listen, if. If they succeed. Sorry, we're done. Cigars over a woman. Absolutely. And why do you think I drink so much? I Look at Norfolk. Look, the Port of Norfolk.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And Norfolk Naval Base, which is where we have most, I think, all of our carriers on the East Coast.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's. It's right next to each other.

[Ryan McBeth]

So who's to say you couldn't launch a shipping container drone attack against a bunch of aircraft carriers that are idling at the port?

[Interviewer]

Wow. We keep them all there.

[Ryan McBeth]

I believe so.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

That's interesting.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I think that's.

[Ryan McBeth]

That's where all of our aircraft carriers are. Home. Porter.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I might be wrong.

[Ryan McBeth]

I'm not really that much of a Navy guy. That's samurai of. Of what's going on with shipping. Should have him on the show.

[Interviewer]

He talked about forever.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Not Navy, like merchant marine.

[Ryan McBeth]

Huh.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Like, when he was in the first.

[Ryan McBeth]

Gulf War, he was on a ship called the Mercy, which was like a hospital ship. We have two of them, the Mercy and the Comfort. But he knows all about. Wow.

[Interviewer]

There's hospital ships.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah, we have hospital ships. I mean, it's a literal. It is a. Almost like a cruise liner, you know, but it has an operating theater inside of it.

[Ryan McBeth]

It has a deck to land helicopters on.

[Interviewer]

Wow. So you get medevaced onto the ship.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Onto the ship. And they'll work on you right there. Oh, and you'll do your convalescence on the ship.

[Ryan McBeth]

Absolutely.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Damn.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

It's cool, you know all this. I got a fun question for you.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

You've studied a lot of wars, I bet. I want to know which war is the most fascinating to you. Which one have you spent the most time researching about?

[Ryan McBeth]

Probably the Toyota War.

[Interviewer]

Toyota war.

[Ryan McBeth]

So Libya invaded Chad at one point, and essentially Libya under Muammar Gaddafi. They were invading Chad and, and Libya was using all this Russian equipment, all this stuff. And these soldiers in Chad, we offered help, the French and the Americans offered help to the Chidians. You know, what would you like? You want anti tank missiles? You want this, you want that?

[Ryan Macbeth]

And they're like, nah, we just want pickup trucks and machine guns.

[Ryan McBeth]

They knew how to repair Toyota pickup trucks. They, they knew their way around medium machine guns. Have you ever heard the term technical? Technical in what sense? As in a machine gun truck?

[Interviewer]

Oh, no, I haven't.

[Ryan Macbeth]

All right, so this, this actually started back in the term technical.

[Ryan McBeth]

Started back in Somalia in the 1990s, 1993 or so.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So essentially these warlords would weld heavy.

[Ryan McBeth]

Machine guns to their pickup trucks. And back then, aid agencies who were bringing food aid into Somalia, they had to pay these warlords to escort them as security to where they're giving out their food. And because you can't put down bribes to warlords on your expense sheet, as you know, and as a valid expense, you would put, they, you know, the people would put down technical payments. So these trucks became technicals.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So I think one of the fascinating.

[Ryan McBeth]

Things was the Chidian Chad army who decided like, you know what, we can't use these tanks.

[Ryan Macbeth]

We can't use armored personnel carriers.

[Ryan McBeth]

Our population is not educated enough to use these things. But we know pickup trucks. We have plenty of shade tree mechanics. We know how to use a heavy machine gun. This is what we need. You give us these things and we can win the fight.

[Interviewer]

They won with that setup. Holy crap.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Old school look. I mean, the Taliban used to use Toyota hooks, pickup trucks. Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

Think of a Toyota Tacoma.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Is it Tacoma?

[Interviewer]

It's a big car.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

What's the smaller one? There's the Tacoma and there's the tundra. So it's a Tacoma.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So it looks kind of like a Tacoma. Weld machine gun to the back. You can put four to six Taliban in the back as dismounts. So the, I don't know how well you can see stuff, but like if, if, if this is the enemy right here.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You know, you roll up, you roll up in your truck, you dismount the infantry. The infantry go around, the truck fires its machine gun and suppresses a target. The infantry come around, they tell the truck stops shooting and they assault through the objective.

[Ryan McBeth]

Interesting.

[Ryan Macbeth]

So a truck with a heavy machine gun is actually a pretty good weapon.

[Ryan McBeth]

Especially for indigenous forces or forces who aren't that well trained. You know, you're not learning complex mathematics or you don't have Laser systems that can break down. You got a truck, you know how to fix that. You go to Pep boys, get a part.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

And you got a machine gun and it's on a bunch of brave dudes who can dismount and assault through the objective.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

Interesting.

[Interviewer]

I haven't heard about war. My dad used to love war books. He would read so many World War II books, it was insane. He probably read every single World War II book.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's been over 100 years since World War II and we're still doing video.

[Ryan McBeth]

Games about it and stuff.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's almost like we need to move on to something else. But I think like for a lot.

[Ryan McBeth]

Of people that was, they taught in.

[Interviewer]

History school in history class growing up. So I think it kind of stuck with a lot of people.

[Ryan McBeth]

Yeah.

[Ryan Macbeth]

And you know, I think maybe it.

[Ryan McBeth]

Was the last good war.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right?

[Ryan McBeth]

The last where there was bad guys and there was good guys. Yeah, I mean, I, I kind of think Ukraine is kind of divided into good and bad as well. But you know, I also, I, I, I can see that there, there might have been an ideological purity to fighting as the west against, I said the west fighting as the Allies against the Axis. Yeah. Because I mean, the Japanese are cutting people's heads off.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You're probably a bad guy.

[Interviewer]

No, it's a valid, valid point.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Dropping poison gas on people. Probably a bad guy. We did some messed up stuff. Like I got. If we lost the war against the Japanese, World War everybody who. Well, I mean, just think about it this way.

[Ryan McBeth]

We probably would have been put up on war crimes charges for dropping incendiary.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You realize more people died from firebombing. The Japanese firebombing Tokyo, then Roshima, Nagasaki.

[Interviewer]

Wow. From firebombing.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Well, back then, like we, we are.

[Ryan McBeth]

We weren't that accurate when it came to dropping bombs. Especially with like jet stream and like you might be dropping 30, 000ft and.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You might have a bomb site that.

[Ryan McBeth]

Kind of can calculate where those bombs might fall under ideal conditions. But there's wind and stuff like that.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Right.

[Ryan McBeth]

Wasn't until we got lasers that we got good at. More accurate, more accurate. So in Japan, like in the case of Tokyo firebombing, we thought like, well, we'll just drop a bunch of bombs on these rice paper houses and the wind should blow it toward the factory.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You imagine doing that today Wouldn't do that. If we lost, if we had lost against Japan, we would have been in trouble. We would have been in trouble.

[Ryan McBeth]

They would have been beheading.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Dudes, yeah, without a doubt.

[Interviewer]

Wow. See, the atomic bomb is what. What saved us. I guess in a sense, the atomic.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Bomb is what saved us.

[Ryan McBeth]

But. But freaking conventional firebombing killed more Japanese in the atomic bombs.

[Ryan Macbeth]

Wow.

[Ryan McBeth]

That is nuts, isn't it?

[Interviewer]

Damn. Well, Ryan, you're a fun guy to talk to. I'd love to keep having you on whenever you're out here or when I'm in DC.

[Ryan McBeth]

Absolutely.

[Ryan Macbeth]

It's been an hour.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Ryan McBeth]

Oh, my God, an hour, man.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. 52 minutes. Where could people find your book, find.

[Ryan Macbeth]

You, find your show and find my book.

[Ryan McBeth]

Last Republic's on Amazon, the new book live stream and should be out by nove September. Publishing process is crazy. You got a editing and it's amazing anything is published. Yeah, you read a book about 20 freaking times. But you can find that at Amazon.com or bunkerbranding.com where you get a free sticker with it.

[Ryan Macbeth]

I hear you getting married.

[Interviewer]

I'm getting married in a month.

[Ryan McBeth]

How do you feel about that? I'm excited.

[Interviewer]

I've been with her for eight years, so she's the one. You know you've been married before, right?

[Ryan Macbeth]

Been married for. Who the hell would marry this? Like, seriously, like. Oh, honey, you need your medicine. Let me finish my cigar first and I'll get you your medicine. Okay. I would be a horrible husband. Don't ever marry me. Seriously.

[Interviewer]

You would be an interesting husband for sure. But yeah. Thanks for your time, man. This was fun.

[Ryan McBeth]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

Thanks for the whiskey. Cheers. Cheers. Nice.

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