Ryley Niemi: A 21-Year-Old’s Most Controversial Political Takes | DSH #1780

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Ryley Niemi: A 21-Year-Old’s Most Controversial Political Takes | DSH #1780

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Ryley Niemi
Date: January 23, 2026

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Overview

In this confrontational episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly sits down with 21-year-old political provocateur Ryley Niemi for a candid—and highly controversial—conversation. Niemi, known for his unfiltered opinions on topics ranging from abortion, birth rates, immigration, and race to conspiracy theories and culture wars, presents unapologetically hardline views that challenge even the expectations of the American right. The dialogue covers Niemi’s political origins, his issues with feminism and LGBTQ+ rights, explicit takes on race and IQ, as well as his ongoing feuds with fellow political commentators.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins and Political Involvement

• Young Start: Niemi describes entering the political arena as early as sixth grade, frequently debating teachers and eventually leaving high school early due to COVID-19, then dropping out of college over vaccine mandates.
  • “I've been in politics since like 6th grade, 7th grade, I'd look at my teacher straight in the face, call her a liptard and just laugh at her.” (01:03)
• Activism: First political campaign was for his girlfriend’s mom; his on-campus debating began with a table reading "Trans women are men" at Texas A&M, noted for its conservative environment. (01:28)

2. Abortion, Contraception & IVF

Abortion

• Philosophical Argument: Niemi rejects conventional pro-life rhetoric in favor of claiming a fetus is valuable not for what it currently is, but for its potential future as an adult.
  • “We value someone's life because they have 80 years of life ahead of them. ...So although a fetus...maybe it can't feel pain, maybe it doesn't have a heartbeat...But I'm pro-life down to conception because at the point of conception that life will grow up to be a fully grown adult.” (02:19–03:14)

Birth Control & Plan B

• Advocacy for Nationwide Ban: Niemi wants all forms of hormonal birth control, IUDs, and Plan B banned on grounds they prevent implantation after conception, which he considers abortion.
  • “Birth control, IUDs and Plan B, I believe, should all be banned within the United States.” (04:49)

IVF and Surrogacy

• Moral Objection: Strongly opposes IVF both for destruction/freezing of embryos and what he deems the exploitation of surrogates, equating surrogacy to prostitution.
  • “You're going to pay some 25 year old woman for being a surrogate 50 grand...to ruin her social state. And I think that should be banned for that reason in the same way prostitution has been.” (00:00, repeated at 06:54, 07:48)
  • Claims the selection of embryos and potential destruction is “playing God” and refers to selecting for eye color, etc., as “Frankenstein crap”. (06:49)

3. Conflict with Emily Wilson and Demographic Concerns

• Beef with Emily Wilson: Niemi accuses Wilson, a conservative influencer, of encouraging young women not to be stay-at-home moms, which he claims depresses white and Asian birth rates and accuses her of being funded by “the Jewish lobby.”
  • “That seems like some Israeli funded crap right there to try to lower the population of white people and Asians in America. So that's why I think Emily Wilson is being paid off by not Israel exactly, but the Jewish lobby.” (08:06)
• Fears of Demographic Collapse: Cites low U.S. birth rates as an existential threat, drawing parallels to China and speculating COVID-19 was released “to kill off the elderly.”
  • “Who is going to take care of us?...they're having this big issue in China right now with their demographics...” (09:51–11:32)

4. Antisemitic and Conspiratorial Claims

• Global Control Claims: Niemi asserts "the Jewish elite...control the world," specifying he targets those whom he claims follow “racist” Talmudic teachings.
  • “There is no debate about whether or not the Jewish elite do control the world. I think the debate is whether or not they're evil or good.” (11:54)
• Conflation of Social Change with Jewish Influence: Claims Jewish authors are behind articles promoting “sexual degeneracy,” citing surnames as evidence. (13:11–13:32)

5. Racial Theories and “White Supremacy”

• Race, IQ, and Civilization: Niemi outlines a “weather theory,” arguing that Northern climates selected for higher intelligence and work ethic among Europeans and Asians, resulting in global disparities across racial groups.
  • “It seems kind of racist to say, like, the darker you get, the lower your IQ is, on average. But it's correlated because the darker you are, that means the closer to the equator you are, right?” (21:04)
• White Supremacy: He accepts the label in certain contexts, arguing that whites and light-skinned Asians are “superior in almost every metric” except some sports, and that this is not a matter of debate.
  • “If someone believes that the white race is superior...I don't think there's, like, that's just a fact.” (22:07)

6. Immigration and “Brain Drain”

• Selective Immigration Policy: Advocates “brain drain” immigration—only accepting highly educated, high-income applicants from non-European countries, with strict quotas for each nation.
  • “I think there should be, like, brain drain programs where, like, we say, okay, we're going to have a quota...we'll kind of look at the income...education...crime that they've committed. If they come from a good family, then they're allowed...” (25:32–26:09)
• Labor Market Critique: Claims that immigrants, particularly from Latin America, drive down wages and force Americans to live in crowded, lower-standard housing. (26:31–27:44)

7. Welfare, Food Stamps, and “Parasites”

• Opposition to Food Stamps: Believes welfare “enables parasites” and should be abolished, arguing hunger would force people to work and “no one will starve.”
  • “If people aren't on food stamps and they're hungry, they're going to want to work real quick...No one's going to starve in America.” (27:51–28:22)
  • Critiques obesity among welfare recipients, arguing “the average woman on food stamps is obese, not overweight.” (29:18)
• Administrative Bloat: Criticizes school and government administration, claiming the vast majority of administrators are unnecessary “parasites”:
  • “There are more administrators in a school district than a teacher...America has a large parasite issue with immigrants coming in, getting on food stamps...just Americans and specifically a lot of black Americans getting on food stamps.” (31:25–33:15)

8. Marriage, LGBTQ+ Rights, and Feminism

• Gay Marriage: Believes “gay marriage” is not real marriage and that public displays of homosexuality should be illegal; contends “the whole point of marriage is a man and a woman to stay together forever and have children.”
  • “I actually think it should be illegal to be gay in public because children are going to be watching that...It’s sexual immorality, it’s sexual degeneracy being pushed by the Jews.” (33:54–35:53)
• Feminism and Divorce: Claims feminism, birth control, and no-fault divorce have destroyed traditional marriage and birthrates.
  • “If women work, they eventually become depressed. If men don't work, they eventually become depressed.” (29:18)
  • Calls out Emily Wilson and others for “promoting feminism” and undermining traditional families. (36:25–36:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Surrogacy & Prostitution:

  • “It is very evil to take advantage of a woman's body like that. ...So I think being a surrogate is kind of similar to being a prostitute in a way.” (00:00, 07:48)

• On Pro-life Down to Conception:

  • “We don't value a baby because of its current state. We value a baby because of what it will become one day. ...I'm pro life down to conception because at the point of conception that life will grow up to be a fully grown adult human being.” (03:14)

• On Emily Wilson and Falling Birth Rates:

  • “That's why I think Emily Wilson is being paid off by not Israel exactly, but the Jewish lobby, who time and time again over the past 70 years has been trying to lower the population of white and Asian people in the world.” (08:06)

• On Jewish Conspiracy:

  • “There is no debate about whether or not the Jewish elite do control the world. I think the debate is whether or not they're evil or good.” (11:54)

• On Race and Geography:

  • “On average, the darker someone is, the lower their IQ is going to be, on average. ...the debate should not be about that because that's just a fact no one wants to admit.” (21:04–21:34)

• On Immigration:

  • “Import the Third World, become the Third World...when they come with their standards of life, they're wanting to work for a very low amount of labor.” (26:31)

• On Food Stamp Recipients:

  • “The average woman on food stamps is obese, not overweight. The average man on food stamps is overweight. ...So I'm pretty sure they got a good few weeks before they're going to need food stamps. Geez. A few months, dude.” (29:18)

• On Marriage Equality:

  • “I'm fine with gay people...but they should not use the word marriage when they do this. ...I actually think it should be illegal to be gay in public because children are going to be watching that.” (33:54–35:53)

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Key Sections & Timestamps

• Surrogacy, IVF, and Pro-Life Positions: [00:00–07:48]
• Beef with Emily Wilson and Demographic Collapse: [07:58–11:32]
• Antisemitic and Global Conspiracy Claims: [11:54–13:32]
• Racial Theories and "White Supremacy": [18:03–22:21]
• Weather, Migration, and Culture: [22:21–25:11]
• Immigration, Labor Market, and Food Stamps: [25:27–33:52]
• Marriage, LGBTQ+ Rights, and Feminism: [33:52–37:36]

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Tone & Style

Ryley Niemi speaks in a rapid, brash, and unapologetic manner, frequently peppering his arguments with blunt analogies and aggressive rhetoric. His extreme views are presented in a matter-of-fact way, often blending fact, opinion, and conspiracy without distinction. Host Sean Kelly challenges some points but largely lets Niemi’s monologues stand, sometimes expressing surprise or skepticism.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is an unfiltered plunge into a worldview that mixes far-right traditionalism, conspiracy theories, and a stark worldview about race, gender, and society—with little regard for mainstream controversy. Listeners should be aware of the extreme and often offensive nature of Niemi’s arguments. The episode offers a raw look into the cultural and political battles being fought by a new generation of provocateurs.

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[End of Content Summary]

Transcript

[Riley Neemi]

You're going to pay some 25 year old woman for being a surrogate 50 grand or whatever. She has this pregnancy, woman's hormones change, we know this woman's hormones change alive and women will become emotionally attached to the baby that they're pregnant with. And when this woman gives birth to the baby, taken away from her instantly in the hospital, she has this emotional attachment to a baby that she was never able to raise, never able to hold. So it is very evil to take advantage of a woman's body like that. You're paying a woman all these large sum of money, 50 grand, 100 grand, maybe 200 grand, to take advantage of her body, to ruin her social state. And I think that should be banned for that reason in the same way prostitution has been. Now, obviously it's the woman's free choice. But we can say, look, some women are desperate. No amount of money can suffice for the mental damage that they will suffer from being a surrogate. So I think being a surrogate is kind of similar to being a prostitute in a way.

[Interviewer]

Okay, guys, here at amfest with Riley Niemi. Yeah. Seen you walking around doing little debates here and there. So good to see you in person.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah, good to see you in person.

[Interviewer]

You're a young, young person in this industry. How old are you?

[Riley Neemi]

I am 21 years old. Wow.

[Interviewer]

How long you been in politics for?

[Riley Neemi]

I mean, dude, I've been in Politics since like 6th grade, 7th grade, I've been debating teachers. I'd look at my teacher straight in the face, call her a liptard and just laugh at her. She like questions her, her career choice.

[Interviewer]

Were you on a debate team in high school?

[Riley Neemi]

No, I wasn't. No. I actually went to high school for only six months because of COVID happening. So the second semester, ninth grade was cut out. Tenth grade cut out from COVID Then I graduated early and then I went to college in what was supposed to be 11th grade. Then they required the COVID vaccine. So then I dropped out of college, started working 80 hours a week, and here I am today in politics. But I slowly started working more and more up into politics. First political campaign I worked on was two and a half years ago. It's actually my girlfriend's mom. And then, let's see, just been expanding from there. My first campus debate where I put a table out, it said trans women are men at a Texas A and M. That was about a year and a half ago.

[Interviewer]

Okay, Is that a liberal campus?

[Riley Neemi]

Texas. Texas A and M is a very conservative campus. But the liberals who are there are was parted. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Well, what's, what would you say in your expertise is, what are you most confident in when it comes to topics for to debate?

[Riley Neemi]

I would say debating about abortion, immigration and gay marriage, you know, lgbtq, anything like that? I guess like gun control as well. Pretty good gun control, yeah.

[Interviewer]

When it comes to abortion. What's your stance there?

[Riley Neemi]

So I think a lot of pro lifers take a really big straw man argument. Like a lot of pro life are straw men themselves with the argument for abortion on the pro life side because they'll say, oh, the fetus, at this stage it has a heartbeat. At this stage it can feel pain. So does a chicken. We don't value something's life because it can feel pain or it has a heartbeat. We value someone's life because they have 80 years of life ahead of them. That's why a baby is valuable. A baby is essentially really dumb. Dumber than a pig, dumber than a dog. But why do we value a baby more than a pig or a dog? It's because it has 80 years of life ahead of it. But. So we don't value a baby because of its current state. We value a baby because of what it will become one day. A fully grown adult man like me and you. So the same thing applies to a fetus. So although a fetus, yes, maybe it can't feel pain, maybe it doesn't have a heartbeat in the first two weeks or one month. But I'm pro life down to conception because at the point of conception that life will grow up to be a fully grown adult human being.

[Interviewer]

That's an interesting argument. I hadn't heard that take actually.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah, it's like I feel like the right has been hijacked by people who push these arguments and I just, I just get pissed off about it. So I like to speak out a lot about how that it's actually like the main thing. That's why we value babies. Because if babies are going to have 85 years of life ahead of them, we wouldn't give a crap about that. That's why they're so valuable, so precious. So we. To treat unborn life just like that. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And taking it a step even further, you want birth control ban too, right?

[Riley Neemi]

Yes, I want birth control ban. So I'm pro life down to conception. And a lot of people don't know this, but birth control and plan B, which are both progestin or different types of progestin, they will actually cause a failure of implantation. So now, the board of OBGYN, the board of the OB GYN board, I think it was 1969, they legally changed the definition of pregnancy to not conception until birth. They changed it from implantation until birth. Implantation is about five days after conception. So what they're able to do there is they're able to market things like Plan B. And birth control is not being an abortion because legally, according to the US Government, they are not an abortion. But realistically, most people think that a pregnancy does start at conception, Even pro choice people, pregnancy starts at conception, right? Birth control and Plan B. If you conceive and you have a child inside of your womb, no matter how small it is, no matter how many cells this human being is, when it tries to implant on your uterine wall five days in, when it's like a hundred cells big or whatever, it will fail. It will kill it. So I'm against birth control, Plan B and IUDs. Anything that prevents implantation. Now, condoms. I view them as immoral. Me and my girlfriend said, when we. When we're married and when we have sex, we're not going to use them.

[Interviewer]

Go.

[Riley Neemi]

We're just going to have a lot of kids, basically. But birth control, IUDs and birth control pills, IUDs and Plan B, I believe, should all be banned within the United States.

[Interviewer]

What about ivf?

[Riley Neemi]

Ivf, yes, that as well.

[Interviewer]

What if someone's dealing with infertility, they.

[Riley Neemi]

Can go ahead and adopt a kid.

[Interviewer]

You would tell them to adopt?

[Riley Neemi]

I would tell them to adopt a kid. Because it's like, oh, we're going to have our own kid. But like, this pride about having your own kid is about, like, you know, we're going to do it the way, you know, it's traditionally done. We're going to have our own kid. I'm not going to raise someone else's kid. Then you do ivf. This is like some weird Frankenstein crap. But also what's incredibly immoral about IVF is the fact that when you do ivf, you're not taking one egg and one sperm, combining it together, and then, boom, you have a zygote, put it inside of a. Of a woman who will carry it, a surrogate, right? You are taking in IVF, you are taking about 10 to 20 embryos, right? You or you take 10 to 20 sperm with IVF, you combine them together to get a zygote, and then you only use one of them, huh? So they'll have like 10 zygotes in a test tube in an IVF lab. They usually do 12 on average.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

And they'll ask a couple, hey, you know, like four of these are healthy. The eight of them aren't. So out of the four, this one has blue eyes, this one has green eyes, the other two have brown eyes. Which one do you want? They'll say, we really like green eyes. Right. And they'll take that one. And what did they do with the other three? Kill them. Oh, wait, no. Well, actually they'll freeze them. So it's, it's just as moral. Yeah, it's like it's actually okay to freeze them. No, no, it's not. Because eventually they're going to kill them. Or turning them into a facial cream to get rid of wrinkles. Framley Wilson or something like that. Right. So you consider Zygos life? Yes. Anything at the point of conception?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Okay, I didn't know they made.

[Riley Neemi]

That's its own unique DNA. So that's an individual human being. Now is it an intelligent human being that deserves life? That's the debate. But a person's life does begin at conception like it does. Your DNA does start right at the point of conception. 23 chromosomes from the father, 23 from the mother make 46. And that is the start of any organism's life. Yeah, start.

[Interviewer]

I think picking the eye color and hair color is a bit extreme to me. That feels like playing God a little bit.

[Riley Neemi]

Like even without that with ivf, you still are going to kill multiple zygotes. And another evil part about ivf, outside of the immoral immorality of killing multiple zygos, is the fact that when a woman is a surrogate, right, you're going to pay some young woman who's 25 years old, right. Very healthy. You're going to pay some 25 year old woman for being a surrogate 50 grand or whatever she has this pregnancy. Woman's hormones change, we, we know this, right? Woman's hormones change a lot. And women will become emotionally attached to the baby that they're pregnant with. And when this woman gives birth to the baby, taken away from her instantly in the hospital, she has this emotional attachment to a baby that she was never able to raise, never able to hold. So it is very evil to take advantage of a woman's body like that. You're paying a woman all these large sum of money, 50 grand, 100 grand, maybe 200 grand to take advantage of her body to ruin her social state. And I think that should be banned for that reason. In the same way prostitution is banned.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Now obviously it's the woman's free choice. But we can say, look, some women are desperate. No amount of money can suffice for the mental damage that they will suffer from being a surrogate. So I think being a surrogate is kind of similar to being a prostitute in a way.

[Interviewer]

Wow. You mentioned Emily earlier. What is your beef with her? Because she mentioned you when I had her on recently. Her friend Xavier mentioned you. Let me hear the backstory on this.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah. So Emily Wilson, about like six months ago or so, she posted videos saying that all these, you know, young girls, because a lot of her followers are young girls. And the other part of her followers, a bunch of guys who sim for her and probably jack off through Instagram or something. Right. Because she's a. But, but okay, maybe she's not a whore anymore. Okay, I've heard some things. Okay. I don't know, maybe she's not anymore. But I've heard a lot of things. But the beef with Emily Wilson started about six months ago when she posted a video on Instagram to her follower of a bunch of young women. And she was saying, don't be a traditional wife. Don't rely off of a man. They're going to screw you over. They're going to take advantage of you. Get your own job. Basically, don't rely off of a man. Don't be a stay at home mom. Get your own job. And the chances of this happening are slim to none. So in anybody that you know, any of your friends, the chances of that happening for them, for a rich man to swoop them up and treat them nicely is slim to none. So good a job. Now, I don't know if you know this, but that seems like some Israeli funded crap right there to try to lower the population of white people and Asians in America. So that's why I think Emily Wilson is being paid off by not Israel exactly, but the Jewish lobby, who time and time again over the past 70 years has been trying to lower the population of white and Asian people in the world. That's why the birth rates are so low. But when she posted that, that is an extremely feminist take to say not to not be a stay at home mom. You're not going to find a rich man. Don't do it. She's killing young women's hopes and dreams and essentially telling them go to college, get a career. And that lowers birth rates. America's birth rates are already below two births for a woman. They're at about 1.6 right now.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I think it's even lower now.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah, possibly. I mean, that 1.6 figure, I think, is from 2023. Yeah. So women aren't having enough kids in the United States. I don't think people realize that is the most important thing if you're not having at least two kids per woman.

[Interviewer]

2.1, I believe.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah, 2.1. Yeah. Because some will die. Right. You know, in early, early childhood. But if you're not having at least like 2.1 kids per woman, you are screwing your future over. The future of the nation. None of this crap matters. A lot of people say, oh, you know, feminism increases the gdp. Birth control will increase the gdp because more women can work and delay their families and start a family at 35 years old and have one kid. Come on. We know a lot of women who waited until 35 years old to get married and then they only have one kid because, dude, they're 35. Right. You can't have their second kid at 40, because then at that point you're. A lot of women are infertile. So, yeah, that's the beef with Emily Wilson is that she is encouraging young women to not live a traditional lifestyle, to work their own career, and to not rely off of a man, which is an extremely feminist take for someone who claims that they're a conservative. Yeah, she claims that she's a conservative. A MAGA girl. Look at me, I'm a Republican girl. Emily Saves America. She's going to save America. How is she going to save America? How is Emily save. How is, how is Emily Saves America going to save America? By convincing young women to lower the birth rate even more and lead us to a demographic collapse. And a lot of people don't realize this isn't like, oh, in 500 years from now, there's only going to be a thousand people in America. No, me and you are going to be old one day. Who is going to take care of us? And I don't mean like, oh, what, what, you know, which of our kids are going to take care of us? I mean, who's going to make the food? Who's going to work the farms? Who's going to work in the factories if there's no young people to take the jobs to supply for the old people. Right. They're having this big issue in China right now with their demographics because they have the one child policy from I think like 1985 to 2010 or 1980 to 2015, either one. But I actually think China released Covid to kill off their elderly populations. They don't have to take care of them anymore.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Riley Neemi]

Because of the demographic issues. So I don't think it was frost. I think it was for their own population. They released it.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Riley Neemi]

Because it. It majorly affected old people. It barely affected younger people. That's true.

[Interviewer]

A lot of you look at the deaths. It was mainly old people.

[Riley Neemi]

I think China did it to fix their demographic issue.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Riley Neemi]

That's the thing I just had going on in my head. No evidence, but the incentives there.

[Interviewer]

Do you see China as a threat?

[Riley Neemi]

I see China as a lesser threat than the. The Jewish elite who, come on, we do know, control the world. Like, there is no debate about whether or not the Jewish elite do control the world. I think the debate is whether or not they're evil or good.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Riley Neemi]

And if you look at some of the religious texts of the Jewish people, like the Talmud, I mean, it says that gentiles are animals. Even the best of them should be killed. Right. So I'm not going after people that are ethnically Jewish, but people that are religiously Jewish and specifically follow some of the teachings of the Talmud that are incredibly racist towards gentiles. Those are the Jews that I'm not friends with.

[Interviewer]

The extreme anti Judaism.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah. It's crazy. Like, a lot of them try to tie themselves in with Christianity or being white. Yeah. And, you know, I'll ask Jews all the time, like, hey, do we worship the same God? I'm a Christian, you're a Jew. And they'll say yes, because they like to lie or something.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

And I'll say, really? Awesome. I didn't know you worshiped Jesus. I'm gonna go to, like, shake their hand and go, look, there's a Jesus's.

[Interviewer]

Jewish booth behind it. Yeah, did you see that one? Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Well, I think those are. Those are Christians that are extremely pro Israel. But I was messing with the Gen Zion people, and I'm like, really? We worship the same God. They're like, yeah. And I'm like, I didn't know you worship Jesus, fan. Awesome. And then there's.

[Interviewer]

That's funny.

[Riley Neemi]

You, you, you.

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Riley Neemi]

They just got a little.

[Interviewer]

Where are these. Where's this extreme section located in the world? Like, are they in Israel? Like, where do they live?

[Riley Neemi]

Where do they Israel? New York City. Hollywood.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Riley Neemi]

I mean, like, if you look at anything that promotes sexual degeneracy, you've probably seen articles that say, like, why? It's. Why it's good for young women to have sex with 25 men before they get married. I don't know if you've seen oh, that's crazy. Or there's another one, another article that says why cuckolding is good for a relationship for like a marriage. Right?

[Interviewer]

God.

[Riley Neemi]

And guess who the authors are Every time they have a Jewish last name. Wow.

[Interviewer]

Every time.

[Riley Neemi]

That's nuts.

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[Riley Neemi]

Too.

[Interviewer]

Man, I watched you on Jubilee doing a two on two debate, I think.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah, it was me. CJ Pier versus some girl named Naomi.

[Interviewer]

Naomi? Yeah, she's been on the show.

[Riley Neemi]

And then also Parker got a job. He's pretty hard.

[Interviewer]

Was Parker formidable in your opinion, or was he kind of easy?

[Riley Neemi]

I think he's very intelligent. I don't think he has a lot of knowledge or wisdom. Obviously has a high iq. I mean, how does he get a million followers, millions of followers, if he doesn't have a high iq? Yeah, but I don't think he's very knowledgeable. Like, you know, he's knowledgeable, but he's not wise. Right. Because somebody could be knowledgeable, know all the statistics about every little thing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Racial demographics, all that. But it takes wisdom to call out BS and to know what's right and what's wrong. And, you know, I'm 21. I don't have the best knowledge. But how do I put this? I'm not going to debate something unless I'm 100 sure certain about it.

[Interviewer]

You know, I feel that. So, yeah, no, I agree with that because, like, Parker has good recall with facts and Statistics and can bring up obscure things, but he doesn't have the life experience.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah. And that's why he's a liberal.

[Interviewer]

That's. Yeah. Liberal. That's why I think Destiny's better overall.

[Riley Neemi]

You know, I actually respect Destiny. I think Destiny's actually one of the few liberal commentators that aren't paid off by Israel.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Just the way that he acts. I don't think he is. I think Parker actually, you know, it's funny with Naomi. With Naomi, this is going to be a funny thing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

People. One of my friends were asking Naomi how she. And this friend's got to remain a name. But one of my friends who's asking Naomi. Right. The black girl in Ghibli, how he gets her money. And she says, oh, I do brand deals. Right. So she does brand deals. She gets money from brands, right.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Riley Neemi]

If you look at her social media, she has never done a product placement ever. So what are these brand deals that Naomi is doing?

[Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah. So she's getting all this money being able to fly around wherever to all this political stuff. She's getting brand deals.

[Interviewer]

I do often think, who in the political commentary space is getting paid off? It's like something you have to have in the back of your head when you see these vulgar posts or videos or whatever.

[Riley Neemi]

You got to see their incentives behind it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And they're so influential these days that there's no doubt there's some sort of. Whether it's direct or indirectly being paid. No doubt.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah. And for me, like, I have high proof that in ninth grade, I was trolling liberal protesters. Yeah. I put on, like, dreadlocks to piss off some black girls mad about cultural appropriation at a protest about cultural appropriations. I. I go really far back with trolling. Trolling liberals, and I kind of got that out of my system a little bit. Like, I feel like a lot of people, when they first enter. A lot of these guys in the, like, late teens, early 20s, when they first enter the political sphere, they're kind of disrespectful to a lot of people. And the liberals that they debate call them, like, fat, ugly, retarded or whatever.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Like. Okay, more like fat and ugly. Like, retarded might be a valid term depending on the liberal that you're debating. But I feel like I got a lot of that disrespectful stuff out of my system in middle school and high school, because I've been doing it since I was 12.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

So now I think I'm kind of refined in the, the way that I debate with people and the way that I treat other people that I'm debating. But yeah, dude, at the end of the day, I think Emily Wilson is being paid by the Jewish lobby to try to further to lower white and Asian birth rates. Because that's what the Jewish people are afraid of. Because they know those are the only people that can fight back. Because they know black people, Hispanics and people from the Middle east they don't need to worry about. Very easy to control. But they know whites and Asians, they know that we're hard to control.

[Interviewer]

Hey, I'm both, so.

[Riley Neemi]

Yeah, I know. I'll take the compliment.

[Interviewer]

Half tough.

[Riley Neemi]

Exactly.

[Interviewer]

What do you think about the white supremacist movement that everyone's talking about?

[Riley Neemi]

I mean like, define white supremacists or whatever. Like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I guess it's kind of subjective, right? Yeah, they put Fuentes as the face of it.

[Riley Neemi]

But, but like, like if somebody were saying, or you white supremacists, like, what does that mean? Oh, you believe that like white people are a superior race, like a better race than other races. It's like, yeah, well, look at any European country with white people. Look at any black country. Which ones are better off, which ones have lower crime rates, which ones have a higher, higher standard of living, who has more money, who has more belongings? It's always white countries. If you go to countries where it's mixed race, America is a mixed race country. White people are better off. You go to countries in Africa where Europe colonized them and took advantage of them. White people are better off there. You go to countries in Africa like Ethiopia, where they actually defeated Italy when Italy was trying to take them over as a colony. They're not doing too well in Ethiopia. People make memes about Ethiopians starving.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

So no matter like where you go, no matter where you find people that are from sub Saharan Africa, they're not very well off. Like it, it sucks to say it, but like they are not well off wherever you go. You look at Hispanics, they're kind of in between. Like now I think being white gives you an advantage in IQ and temperament and long term thinking. And that's just due to the weather because I mean people who live in the more up north, they have to prepare for the winter, the harsh winter, then like a decent summer. Right in the like New York City or something. Yeah, it's going to be like 95 degrees in the summer or something and really, really cold in the winter. You have to go back and forth, back and Forth with Europe. That's what they've been doing for thousands of years. Well, if you live in Oceania, if you live in, like, if you live in Fiji or something, on the island of Fiji, you could just sit there, lay back, and grab a coconut off a tree. If you're living on the coast of Nigeria at any time in human history, you're like, I love the coconut tree. The coconut tree. Give me food. And you just. You just grab the coconut, you crack it open, you eat the coconut. You know, there's always food. It's always plentiful. You don't need to build a shelter. While Europeans had to think ahead of the time, they had to say, we need to prepare for the winter. How are we going to store this beef? Okay, we're going to salt it. We're going to have exam. We're going to have advanced preservation techniques to preserve the food. We're going to build large shelters out of stone. We're going to need to figure out architecture, building civilization. How are we going to store the food? Who's going to control it? Who's going to. Who's going to secure the food, make sure no one else steals the food. Like, Europeans and Asians have had to do so much from season to season that it led to the smart ones being the only ones who reproduce and the ones who were dumbasses did not reproduce, while people in Africa or Oceania or Latin America, since they don't have as that large of a seasonal change because they're closer to the equator. Yeah, they don't need to prepare as much. And so it seems kind of racist to say, like, the darker you get, the lower your IQ is, on average. But it's correlated because the darker you are, that means the closer to the equator you are, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Darker you are, the closer to the equator because you have more sun, so you need more melanin to protect you against the UV rays. And that also coincides with the weather and temperament. So on average, the darker someone is, the lower their IQ is going to be, on average. And I, like, I know this will probably get clipped and I'll be called a big racist, but, like, it's true. Now, this shouldn't be a debate because, I mean, it's obvious. Like, it's. It's way too obvious. Nobody. Nobody wants to admit it. Nobody wants to be that guy. I mean, except a few people in the past few years, but nobody wants to admit it that the darker you get, the lower your IQ is going to be, on average. The debate should not be about that because that's just a fact no one wants to admit. The debate should be about what do we do about that. Should we treat black people differently? Should we make different laws for them? I think no. Right. And so with this whole white supremacist movement, it's like if someone believes that the white race is superior or like light skinned Asians are superior, I don't think there's, like, that's just a fact. Like it's just in almost every metric they're superior. Except in what? Basketball, football. We're not superior. Asians aren't getting into football. Right? Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Asians are not athletic.

[Riley Neemi]

But when it comes to things that actually build a civilization, white people and light skinned Asians are going to have a large advantage. So superior in architecture, finance. Engineering. Really anything that has to do.

[Interviewer]

How did you figure out that weather link? Because I've never heard that take. But logically that makes a lot of sense to me because when I go to islands like I travel a lot, people are just chilling, bro. They're like, I feel like you don't need to be smart to make money on an island.

[Riley Neemi]

And also you notice that when people move to like Oceanside or Orange county or something, San Diego off the coast, they're going to be super intelligent people that like grew up in like the Inland Empire in California, they're from Dallas, they're from Vegas, they're from Phoenix or something. And then they move their kids to like the, the coastal area. When their kids grow up, they, they grow up to. A lot of them grow up to be dumb asses that are like stoners and surfers.

[Interviewer]

Trust fund baby.

[Riley Neemi]

Because of that weather. Well, I think it's because of that weather. They're so laid back. They don't have a seasonal change.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Riley Neemi]

They don't have an internal clock in their mind. They're from their ancestors telling them to get a move. Right? Prepare for the winter, prepare for the summer.

[Interviewer]

Seasons are important.

[Riley Neemi]

Seasons are important. So that's why you see the culture on the coastline like being extremely lazy. And like that's just from like a few generations. Well, it's looking hundreds of generations in Africa or like Latin America or Oceania where, you know, it's, it's going on for hundreds of generations and it's, it's showing. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

No, when I moved from Jersey to la, I hated it. Everyone was lazy. I lasted five months.

[Riley Neemi]

Why do you think the east coast is so like hyper, hyper hustle culture, bro. If you're, if you're in Washington D.C. and you don't run up the escalator on one side. And if you're standing on the one side where people run, they're going to push you. Same with New York.

[Podcast Host]

If you're not walking fast. Yep, you're going to.

[Riley Neemi]

Exactly. That's how the east coast is. But the west coast, it's entirely different. Why? LA is a major city, New York is a major city. Why is there different? It's because of the weather. Yeah, but imagine that over hundreds of.

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[Riley Neemi]

So the people who are in these spots where the weather changes, they're going to have a higher chance of reproducing and passing on that those genetics of being super fast paced to their offspring. All the people who are lazy and laid back in New York become the bumps on the street of New York. While in LA you're allowed to be a little bit laid back and lazy.

[Interviewer]

What's your take on immigration? Do you want to stop all of it? Do you want legal still coming in?

[Riley Neemi]

I think that, I mean so with people that are like Hispanic or Middle Eastern Indian or like darker Asian and, and black as well from Africa, there are going to be some who are able to like reach the American Level, but that bell curve is further behind. But there's going to be a certain amount of them that will surpass the average, like, European American. Yeah. So I think that there should be, like, brain drain programs where, like we say, okay, we're going to have a quota of only 5000 people from India a year are allowed. Only China is a lot better. So we could say like 50,000 people from China a year are allowed.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Riley Neemi]

Or like maybe like 100 people from Nigeria a year are allowed into the US or something. Right? Yeah. So we'll kind of look at the. The income that they have, the education that they have, the crime that they've committed. If they come from a good family, then they're allowed into the United States. And a big thing with allowing immigrants into the United States. And the reason why it lowers our quality of life. You've probably heard the term import the Third World become the Third.

[Interviewer]

Right, right.

[Riley Neemi]

And so what that really means, though, is that when these people from Latin America. I'm just going to say the Mexicans. Right. Because that's like 90% of them. When these people from the third world come in, they are willing to work jobs for like $4 an hour, $5 an hour. Right. And because of that, it lowers the market, the market rate of labor. So then normal Americans will have to work under the table for $4, $56767 or $8 an hour. Right. And the reason why they're working $45 an hour is because their quality of life is so low, they don't care about a Netflix subscription, Hulu subscription, or having a nice car that has air conditioning in it. They'll get a bicycle, ride their bicycle to work, live in a house with 20 people. And because they're willing to do that, because these people from the third world are willing to live in a house with 20 other people, they are willing to work for four or five dollars an hour, lowering the market rate for labor, which makes all of us almost necessarily need to live with a bunch of roommates. And that's what a lot of Americans are having to do nowadays who have been here for generations. We're having to live with multiple roommates.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

Right. So that's what it means when you import the Third World, you become the Third World, because when they come with their standards of life, they're wanting to work for a very low amount of labor. And we have to match that because that's how capitalism works. So that's what happens when you allow.

[Interviewer]

Them in a couple more hot takes. To close off here. You want to get rid of food stamps? Yes. How come?

[Riley Neemi]

Well, I think with food stamps, a lot of people are like, well, you know, we should allow food stamps for about six months. And after six months, they don't get a job. Then we take them off of it. And this is going to sound really fucked up, but if people aren't on food stamps and they're hungry, they're going to want to work real quick. They're going to be begging for jobs, dude. They're going to be begging for jobs and, like, no one's going to starve, right? People might go a little bit hungry. No one's going to starve in America. Like, starvation and malnutrition is not due to economic factors. Right. You look at, like, the only country who's really starving right now, which is South Sudan. The only reason why it's starving is not because of money. They get a huge. A whole bunch of humanitarian aid. It's because the Sudanese government who they're fighting, right? Sudan and South Sudan, because South Sudan split off in like, 2012. They've been fighting. So Sudan tries to block all the humanitarian aid going there. They're trying to burn their food, get rid of their food. So they'll starve at the people in South Sudan until they come back to the main nation of Sudan and form to a larger nation. So starvation in the modern world is not due to a economic factor or not having enough money to afford the food. It's because of abuse. Right. So the only Americans who are starving right now are kids who are, like, being raised by crackhead parents, basically. Wow. So, like, I think getting these people off food stamps is going to make them have a little bit of hunger pains. And, like, I'm hungry right now. I want the hunt. I'm going for the hunt right now. I want the kill. I'm energetic right now. I'm in a. I'm in a state of ketosis. Right.

[Interviewer]

Fasting too, right now.

[Riley Neemi]

And, like, also, the average woman on food stamps is obese, not overweight. Really? The average man on food stamps is overweight. The average woman on food stamps is obese. Wow. So I'm pretty sure they got a good few weeks before they're going to need food stamps. Geez. A few months, dude. Right? So, like, when you fast, your mind just has a state of clarity and you're going to want to work a lot harder. And I know it sounds really up, but these people aren't living a very high quality of life. Like, at least for us men, like, women are different, but we want to work. Like, if women work, they eventually become depressed. If men don't work, they eventually become depressed. They don't work. Right. So that's a big difference between men and women. But I just think that food stamps need to be taken away. I mean, other, other than people who are born with a disability. I don't want to hear some retard say that, like, they became £500 and they got diabetes and now that's a disability. No, like, fuck off, dude.

[Interviewer]

You did that to yourself. Yeah.

[Riley Neemi]

You weren't born with a disability. Also with parking spots. Yeah. I don't care if somebody says, oh, I have a bad ankle. I'm like, well, you're also £300. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the £300 is the issue, because if I had a bad ankle, I could probably go without a handicapped parking spot. But, you know, it's just our country is having a large failure, I think, because a lot of people who are parasites, and not only food stamps, but a lot of people who are federal and state government employees, which, by the way, there are 20 million government employees from federal, state, county, and municipal city level governments. There are 20 million in the United States. There are parasites on this world. But think about how many people are subcontract, subcontracted by the government. The government needs to be cut by 99% of their federal employees. Right. Other than the military, of course. State. State governments need to be cut by 99%. Now, county level and city level, you're going to have like fire departments and police. That's different. But I'm talking about the people who are working in offices. Or you ever meet a woman who's like, oh, I work in administration for the school district.

[Interviewer]

What do you do?

[Riley Neemi]

Oh, well, I work from home, but what do you do? They're like, yo. You know, I'm just on zoom calls a lot and I talk. They don't do anything. Dude, why did you know that the average employee in a school district is an administrator, not a teacher? There are more administrators in a school district than a teacher.

[Interviewer]

That doesn't make sense.

[Riley Neemi]

Why the fuck did that happen? How the did that happen? I thought administration should be like a 1 to 20 ratio with teachers. But I think that America has a large parasite issue with immigrants coming in, getting on food stamps. And not only that, but just Americans and specifically a lot of black Americans getting on food stamps. And there's some white ones too, but it's disproportionately black on food stamps. There's a lot of parasites in America stealing from us, stealing from our taxes. If we didn't have to pay taxes, a lot of people here would be able to afford an apartment without a roommate. Right. If we got rid of a lot of these illegal immigrants, right? Property. Property rates would drop. Property, sorry, property values would drop. Which would also lower the rent. Right? Rent would probably go lower in half. Yeah. So the issue here isn't the rich and wealthy stealing from us. And like, dude, I'm not like my, my net worth is less than six figures, right? Like, I'm not some rich and wealthy guy trying to be a dick or whatever. But it's not the rich and wealthy, okay? It's not the rich and wealthy that are, that are destroying us, dude, because like, they don't need more than billions of dollars. The rich and wealthy are not destroying America. It is actually the poorest of America that are taking down America, dragging it down. Their parasites. They're taking food, they're taking resources, they're taking housing for free or subsidized housing from the government, from the American people. And where's the government get the money for? To give them food stamps. To give them subsidized housing from the American people. So whenever somebody is like, oh, I'm so morally righteous, I support food stamps. I'm not a Republican like you. Are you far right white nationalist? No. You're not morally superior because you're not giving food to those people. You are forcing people via the irs, right? Because the IRS will force you to give your money to them. If you don't. If you keep yourself in your house, you don't answer the door, they're going to eventually aim guns at you and take you at gunpoint into prison. You will go to prison if you don't pay your taxes. When you have social programs, you are forcing Americans essentially at gunpoint or threat of going to prison to pay for these programs. So all these people who claim that they're morally righteous with claiming that they support food stamps is bullshit. They need to donate the food themselves, donate the housing themselves, donate money themselves instead of forcing others, because that's what taxation is. Any government programs, people need to realize anything they support the government doing, you need to think, is this worth forcing the American people via gunpoint or threat of going to prison from the irs? Is it worth making the American people pay for this by force? Is it worth it? And I don't think food stamps is.

[Interviewer]

What about gay marriage? Do you Want that banned?

[Riley Neemi]

Yes. Well, actually, gay marriage is an invalid term. So what is marriage nowadays? Right? Marriage can mean anything. Marriage can be me and my girlfriend getting married and having eight kids and she's a stay at home mom, homeschooling them. Marriage can also mean two gay guys who are like polyamorous having sex with other people that live in separate houses, that don't ever have any kids and then they divorce four years later. Two very different things. Why do they have the same word? Why do they have the same word? Two? These words need to mean very different things or these two things are very different. They shouldn't have the same word to describe them. And what do you call it with gay marriage? The whole reason I'm against it is because marriage is a very specific thing. When a man and a woman promise to come together forever. I don't believe in no fault. The worst either. It is when a man and a woman come together forever and then have children. So when people take the word marriage and they, they water it down, it is disgusting. They could do whatever they want. These gay people could do whatever gay stuff that they want, but they should not use the word marriage when they do this. An abomination that they do. And an analogy that I have is if when I say that gay marriage is watering down the word marriage, an analogy I use is I went to community college for one semester and since I got all A's, you know, which I did, I want to be called Dr. Neemi. I want to be called Dr. Nimi now. And well, I can't. Why not? Because it waters down the term for people who actually got their doctorates or a PhD. Right? It waters it down for those people. So it doesn't mean the same thing. We can't have this huge blanket term. So I'm fine with gay people being able to do with whatever they want and their own privacy. I actually think it should be illegal to be gay in public because children are going to be watching that. So I actually think doing gay acts should be illegal, but it's only if you get caught. So there should be no investigations, like, you know, the FBI reading your house to find out if you're gay. But if you get caught doing gay crap in public, you should be arrested or fined or something because children shouldn't have to watch that. It's sexual immorality, it's sexual degeneracy being pushed by the Jews. I mean, we know this. It's. It should be illegal to be gay only if you're caught, right? And yeah, like the whole point of marriage is a man and a woman to stay together forever and have children. And then now it's this huge blanket term to describe two people who are like in a business contract together where they share their money. And then now you have prenups. So what the is marriage? Yeah. If you have prenups, you're allowed to get a divorce. It doesn't have to be be a man and a woman. You don't have to have kids. What the is a marriage then? It's not even a business contract at that point. It's nothing. Yeah, it's null and void. There's no meaning behind the marriage anymore. And so yeah, I mean that's just the big thing. And also divorce rates are so high because women are on birth control. I don't know if you know how women change their, their male preference when they get on birth control, but yeah, dude, there just been a big thing with Emily Wilson and Xavier. I heckled them out in the meteor row out there. And he brought his entire production crew, Ex Mutage Productions or whatever. He's filming a show. They had three cameras on me, a guy with the boom mic like this. They had a four man camera crew show up and me and him went back and forth for 10 minutes. People are gathering around, listening, but we were basically talking about Emily Wilson attacking we're basically talking about Emily Wilson attacking Sarah Stock. We were talking about how the fact that Xavier is basically really liberal even though he claims to be conservative. Right. You know, catching up with the conservatives at Hamptons. Right. It's like, bro, you're not conservative, you're gay. Emily Wilson's a who promotes feminism and maybe she's not a whore anymore. I've heard some things that she's turned, turned it around, but I don't know, I, I haven't really seen that much of a change with Emily and she hasn't. I don't think she's taking that video down, telling young women that they should be, you know, feminists, not be stay at home moms. So. Yeah, that's my, that's my thing.

[Interviewer]

Well, no, that was great. Where could people find you?

[Riley Neemi]

Awesome. So my Instagram is going to be Riley Neemy. It's spelled R Y L E y dot N I EMI and I could actually just, yeah.

[Interviewer]

Check my. We'll link the Instagram. Riley Neemi. Thanks for your time, bro. That was fun. Yeah, man. Check them out, guys, please.

[Riley Neemi]

Awesome.

[Podcast Host]

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[Riley Neemi]

Thank you.