
| DSH #2086 What if the future of humanity is not about escaping Earth, but remembering what humans were designed to become? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Sacha Stone to discuss sovereignty, ancient civilizations, hidden history, human consciousness, longevity, UFOs, Vatican secrets, Epstein, hemp technology, AI, spiritual warfare, and the possibility of a completely different future for humanity. Sacha shares his perspective on why the modern world is built around control, fear, poisoned food systems, broken institutions, and disconnected people. He argues that humanity is entering a major awakening where old systems collapse and people begin reclaiming land, health, family, faith, and sovereignty. The conversation also covers Atlantis, stargates, ancient technology, extraterrestrial theories, biological ascension, glyphosate, home birth, governments, Africa, the Vatican, disclosure, reptilian encounters, hemp-based manufacturing, micronations,...
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Sean Kelly
And that means staving off death to 250, 300 years of age, guaranteed, as long as you don't get hit by a bus or an asteroid.
David Icke
And in terms of the revelations coming through the Babylonian Vatican basements and the Epstein files and, you know, ritual satanic abuse and this godless calamity that we were seeing emerge from the civilizational basement, that is revelation.
Podcast Host
All right, guys, look who we got back on the show. We made it happen in Vegas. You haven't been here in a while. Thanks for coming out, man.
Sean Kelly
That's my great pleasure. Seven and a half hours in the traffic yesterday through the Mojave Desert. See you.
Podcast Host
I'm honored. I'm honored. What you been up to since I saw you at Conscious Life Expo?
David Icke
Just the usual stirring. We had an event at our land in Tennessee last week on the summer
Sean Kelly
solstice, which was a gathering of a
David Icke
lot of people from all around the world and some military intelligence folks and some shit stirrers like myself coming together to really reconvene from what we did last year in Tennessee, which was a consecration and proclamation event. Taking the land, it's about 65 acres that we've got there, and taking it back to the Genesis treaties of the First Nation peoples. And so last year we did a monumental event, consecration and proclamation event. Dr. David Mart and Laura Eisenhower. Nice love, Moss, Scott McKay and all my mates turned up and it was a hugely powerful event, essentially drawing a line in the sand and inviting Washington, District of Columbia and the war powers to kindly back the fuck off. And that land and the living soil is being returned now through the Genesis treaties of the First Nation peoples, back to the Rainbow Warrior tribe, which is you and me.
Podcast Host
We need. The soil has been destroyed, especially here.
David Icke
Right, right, right.
Sean Kelly
It's everything.
David Icke
It's air, water, soil, the human biome. It's all been under systemic attacks, but it'll continue to be so long as we abdicate our sovereignty and abnegate our conscience.
Sean Kelly
So they just.
Podcast Host
They passed a massive glyphosate bill in the US recently. They're going to double down on it. It's scary.
Sean Kelly
Yeah. And yet.
David Icke
And yet it creates a compression event that is so terrifying that it'll actually force action, dynamic action. So in that sense, the contrast, the devil always serves God's design. In that sense, the contrast is just going to create more and more pressure. Just the way that the whole era of covidiacy has become the axiomatic shift point for thousands of years of civilizational dystopia we needed a threshold event to wake up to and wake up through. And that was the COVID satanic intervention of human MRNA DNA using needles.
Sean Kelly
That was as bad as it gets.
David Icke
The diabolical interventionism.
Sean Kelly
The third party.
Podcast Host
I hope so. I hope it doesn't get worse. You never know. They're planning these other diseases to outbreak.
Sean Kelly
They can plan all they like.
David Icke
The human plasma, actualized human consciousness in action is a clarifying form of light, of plasma that will negate any synthetic molecule and any diabolical interventionism. Through glyphosate and fluoride and aluminum and barium and phosphate and strontium. I could name 300 different chemical compounds which are all designed to bring us into a tailspin, into an apocalypse. All of those, the cacophony of wickedness
Sean Kelly
and witchery at that chemical level assaulting
David Icke
the human biome all moves into remission the minute we move into consciousness. And I mean actualized consciousness, which is to say the living witness, like I am. Get thee behind me, Satan can only happen as a command when you are inhabiting and fully embodying consciousness. And that's what this compression of witchery and wickedness in the world on the geopolitical stage. And in terms of the revelations coming through the Babylonian Vatican basements and the Epstein files and ritual satanic abuse and this godless calamity that we're seeing emerge from the civilizational basement, that is revelation.
Sean Kelly
That's precisely the geometry that we need to reveal to the light in order
David Icke
to bring about that paradigmatic shift.
Sean Kelly
So in that sense, we should be thrilled that we're seeing what lies beneath for the first time.
Podcast Host
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's the first time right in our lives.
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Sean Kelly
For sure, in our lives, but it's happened before. I mean, we're a very ancient species. And the titans and giants that inhabited this Plane of existence. Let's just call it that. Millions of years ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago. Number one, when I start to speak like this, there's a caveat. You have got to disidentify with the idea that Newtonian physics prevails, or that Einsteinian logic math prevails, or that Darwinian theories prevail. Darwin, Newton, Descartes, Einstein, all of these archetypal progenitors of our reality framework.
David Icke
No, absolutely not.
Sean Kelly
Let go of those old dithering masons.
David Icke
All of them.
Sean Kelly
Let go of them. Newton. I'll excuse Newton, he was brilliant. But in the main, we've had the entire conceptual framework of our reality orchestrated for us by blithering old Victorian Edwardian masons.
David Icke
Really?
Sean Kelly
Stop. Right, yeah. So we have to now start to truly see why is Romania called Romania?
David Icke
That's because it's older than Rome, it
Sean Kelly
predates Rome, the Romanian language predates Latin. The alien base discovered recently in the Bucetti Mountains, just outside Bucharest, contains alien holographic technologies that can see the future, see the past. All of this came to light. Delta was called. They came in, sequestered that technology and that know how 20 years ago. But the point being, Romania is, is the oldest place on earth in terms of. If we want to go back to the genesis point of who was concocting the. The seeding of the human being in a laboratory, we want to go to the Anunnaki and the Enkin and Lil theoretics, then the laboratory is almost certainly in the Bucechi Moun outside Bucharest. Why are we not focused on that? Who's prohibiting us being able to go into these spaces and research our past effectively again? It's the midnight masons, it's the secret societies. It's that status quo.
Podcast Host
It's everywhere.
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Even in Egypt.
Sean Kelly
I lived there for three years, so. Especially in Egypt.
Podcast Host
Oh, yeah. I just saw photos of the Sphinx. The head is way smaller.
Sean Kelly
Yes.
Podcast Host
In the body. So do you think they.
Sean Kelly
The head has been variously shape shifted
David Icke
and changed and kind of recarved in a sense.
Podcast Host
That's what it looks like. It was way smaller than the body.
David Icke
Yeah.
Podcast Host
So I don't know what's going on with that. And they won't let you excavate there.
Sean Kelly
Well, I mean, my erstwhile dear friend,
David Icke
I hadn't seen her for some time.
Sean Kelly
Elena Danan, the French archaeologist.
David Icke
She was the one who was going into the Sphinx. The masons kicked her out of Egypt in the end.
Podcast Host
Wow.
David Icke
Because she was making certain revelations.
Sean Kelly
But yeah, it's a curious. I'll be back there later this year.
David Icke
I'm leading a retreat there.
Sean Kelly
To Egypt?
David Icke
Yeah.
Podcast Host
What's the retreat for? Just to show people the truth.
Sean Kelly
It's a mythic retreat. Yeah, I'm basically doing cosmogenesis, archaeocosmology and cosmogenesis, which is taking people back to the genesis point of this seeding of humanity and then looking at all of
David Icke
these totems and temples and archetypes and
Sean Kelly
rediscovering the true meaning behind them outside of the again, the old Masonic Encyclopedia Britannica.
Podcast Host
Did you see what happened to CERN this week?
Sean Kelly
I did.
Podcast Host
They shut off and now everyone's saying their days feel longer.
Sean Kelly
Well, it's quantum flux. And to be sure, CERN was seriously screwing with the fabric of so called time space.
David Icke
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Podcast Host
That's interesting, right?
Sean Kelly
Well, it's interesting in that CERN failed. I predicted that three, four, five years
David Icke
ago that it would categorically fail in
Sean Kelly
its objective to identify the atom seed of black sun technology.
David Icke
Well, good luck.
Podcast Host
Because it has a consciousness. Right. You won't be able to find it.
David Icke
Yeah, yeah.
Podcast Host
Double slit experiment.
Sean Kelly
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's creepy, creepy, creepy stuff. And the only question we need to be asking is how did we ever permit or permission our governments to participate in those kinds of grotesque multi billion dollar experiments? Were you ever consulted?
David Icke
I certainly wasn't.
Podcast Host
Our tax tellers went there and went to many other places.
Sean Kelly
Yeah. So human beings again have been sequestered. Harvest of humanity and sacrifice of innocence. Sit down, sit to the side.
David Icke
Nothing to see here.
Sean Kelly
Do what you're told or go straight to prison or the execution chamber. So yeah, that describes the human condition of subjugation and just being used as a utility by elements and powers that have agendas and are working with very, very advanced technological agendas. And what is that to do with like who is playing out the CERN theater? Is it human beings? No, no, these, these human beings are proxies of a certain star nations and let's put it that way.
Podcast Host
Right.
Sean Kelly
So the human theater is, and the theater of this Earth plane, Tara, is where the cascade of all of the star nations finds temporality, finds themselves able to interact in temporality. And that is why the human being is subject to so much scrutiny and so much interest and historically has been the subject to so much abduction and splicing and dicing. Precisely because the human genome is the galactic genome, which is to say we carry the God code in that sense. And all the Star nations in this temporal universe have got to can only
David Icke
find their way back home through the human genome.
Podcast Host
Wow. Is that why we used to have the Stargates here?
Sean Kelly
Yes, because everything is connected. The atom seed. The X marks the spot again. The atom seed of this entire universe is this Earth plane.
Podcast Host
That's fascinating.
Sean Kelly
And what is the issuance of the Earth? The highest technology that issues of the Earth is the human being. Emphasis. The angelic indigo human being. That's the good human. That's the one that operates at frequency X and above, you know, so yeah, a good human, an actualized angelic indigo human being is the highest expression of divinity in the temporal universe. That's you and me. You and I have the capacity for that. No other entity.
David Icke
No other being.
Podcast Host
Wow, you have humans ranked pretty high on the hierarchy.
Sean Kelly
The highest.
Podcast Host
The highest.
Sean Kelly
We are the alpha point.
Podcast Host
Holy crap.
Sean Kelly
Yes, the alpha point. So whereas the Alpha Centurions are far more advanced spiritually. And the androids, Andromedans, and the Syrians and Orions and Thetans, they are all. And even the Zeta Reticulans and the Reptilians, they are very advanced technologically. Very advanced technologically. They can bend and warp time, they can do all sorts of things, but the point is they cannot get back to source. The only way is through us.
Podcast Host
Interesting.
Sean Kelly
The Jacob's Ladder is the human being.
Podcast Host
So that's why they cross breed.
Sean Kelly
Yes, that's why they're hybridizing us. That's why blood is everything. That's why genetic intervention and vaccines and adrenal crime, that's the whole obsession with the human genome is connected to interventionism and the degree to which they can or cannot hack into the human gene.
Podcast Host
Humans are very close to source.
Sean Kelly
We are the only conduit to source in that sense. For the temporal universe.
Podcast Announcer
Yeah. Wow.
Podcast Host
I'm fascinated because I always thought as we evolve into aliens or whatever, that we're closer to source. Like that higher dimension.
Sean Kelly
That's the part of the flip. We've been led to believe that we need to move towards the object. No, the object needs to move toward us.
David Icke
And we simply need to collapse into the state of witness that we naturally, intrinsically, are.
Sean Kelly
So the diabolical human theater invites us
David Icke
from birth when we're slapped, pulled out
Sean Kelly
of, yanked out of our mother's birth canal, had the umbilical cord cut with surgical steel, which is the worst possible
David Icke
isotope frequency that could connect to symbiotic
Sean Kelly
flesh that gets cut and then we're spanked in order to cry and Howl. And all of a sudden we're interacting with this Earth plane and everything therefore thereafter is a trial of separation. And we're then seeking to be Freudian about it. And not to try and be crass, but I'm being quite serious about this. The search thereafter is either the mother's nipple or daddy's cock. So that becomes the Freudian premise of oh, help me, Daddy, help me, Mommy, Save me, someone. Because we're in a state of. We're in a state of trauma reflex
David Icke
almost from the moment we're born.
Sean Kelly
And certainly we have adults leaning in on us, programming us with mutant syntax, which is language. And that syntax is inviting us into the false light and saying, you know, become a lawyer, become a thing. And no part of that is leaning into us and saying, welcome into this plane, this third density plane of existence, you beautiful soul. Congratulations for steering yourself into this vector of time space. Oh, by the way, you're so much closer to the heavens than we are. What can you teach us? We don't lean into babes and ask them that we should do, because if we shut up and stop speaking to them and blah blah, blah, and programming them, especially in the first few months, they would start to speak. Their stellar linguistics would come out instantly.
Podcast Host
Really?
Sean Kelly
Yes. They would start to speak in Pleiadian and Andromedan. We prohibit and inhibit it by speaking this mutant Saturnian syntax to them. Yeah. And so we have to seriously flip and invert our entire understanding of Genesis and of what it is to be birthed into a plane of existence. Again, these are wisdom carriers. Wisdom flame. They are that much closer to God and to Source. We should be receiving them and receiving the benediction of what they can bring, frequency wise. And in terms of the universal stellar
David Icke
linguistics that they can bring in.
Sean Kelly
Very interesting.
Podcast Host
So home birth for sure then.
Sean Kelly
Well, without a question of doubt why anyone would choose to go into a hospital. We've been so programmed with a bunch of strangers.
Podcast Host
That's probably. We can look up how many percentage of births that is, but I'd imagine it's 80 in America. Maybe even more than that. Yeah, that's crazy.
David Icke
I guess. 90 plus percent. But I have.
Podcast Host
Holy crap. We'll see what this says. That's nuts either way. Yeah, yeah, I'm already looking into it because I want to have kids soon, man. Yeah, home birth, right?
David Icke
Absolutely.
Sean Kelly
And do it, do it with water as well. I mean, it's a beautiful thing.
Podcast Host
Yeah. Race for plan about a hospital, bars. Yeah, 90%. That's nuts. Yeah, 90%. Look into that guys. Because not only the birth process, but then they're giving the vaccines by design.
Sean Kelly
I mean again, the child is supposed to move down the birth canal and there are a number of bacterium that are sticking through the plasma on the walls of the birth canal. And it's that plasma, that bacterium that is supposed to engage onto the child and the child is then supposed to be induced into oxygen and sunlight. And as they're induced into the light and the air and then hit the mother's nipple and get that colostrum in the minute that colostrum interacts with the child's, the plasma field on the skin of the child. That's what creates, literally catalyzes the biome of the child. The immune system of that babe is catalyzed through air, through light, and through the bacterium on, on the plasma. That child, which is why it's a C section, is such an inhibition and should be avoided at all costs unless absolutely critically necessary. Death should never have C sections.
Podcast Host
Yeah, people do. Plant C sections. Uploads my mind.
Sean Kelly
It's crazy, right?
Podcast Host
They take them out early.
Sean Kelly
It's crazy. You're literally taking one leg of a three legged stool away from that child. In terms of their own capacity to
David Icke
grow and the immune system, that means anything thing.
Podcast Host
So there's C section babies. You think they get more sick than natural birth?
David Icke
Study it without any question.
Podcast Host
Wow.
David Icke
Yeah.
Sean Kelly
The biome is, is, is, is deeply affected by that.
Podcast Host
They need to talk about that more because people don't ever say that.
David Icke
Yeah.
Podcast Host
You know, there's a large percentage of C sections, especially in America. Yes, we give a lot of those over here.
Sean Kelly
That's right.
Podcast Host
Yeah. It's not good. You said one thing on another show I want to talk about. War might not exist by 2032. That's four years from now, right?
Sean Kelly
Your math is terrible.
Podcast Host
Five. Sorry.
Sean Kelly
Six.
Podcast Host
Six. Oh my God. I always forget the year.
Sean Kelly
Okay, six.
Podcast Host
Sorry, you're right. Yeah. Six years from now.
Sean Kelly
Yes. Correct.
David Icke
Correct.
Podcast Host
You still believe that?
Sean Kelly
I don't believe anything. I mean, I'm looking at this through the lens of witness. It's not possible for war to exist beyond 2032. From where we stand right now, from the way we're seeing again this casc moving in to shift point, the morphogenetic upshift threshold event is something which is so palpable, and it's by my reckoning that's going to hit us well before 2030. Look, full disclosure is looming toward us. So by 2030, every human being on the planet will know that we are the universal genome and that we are the galactic genome. That the human being is a composite, an aggregate of all the star nations. That's what we are by definition. So that's going to be known. That'll be the new premise of how we view ourselves. Whereas historically we've been viewed as something else. Some apes that evolved into that. Again, that Darwinian model was so diabolical. Evolution, yeah, right. Which is no bearing on reality, none whatsoever. But when the new bearing on reality is that I am birthed into this world and I am the aggregate of the entire cosmos genetically that means we are alpha Omega, we are the. And when we, that's the second coming, this is the new influx of light that's coming is a recognition of the majesty, the divinity that's intrinsic to the human. Angelic. Again I say a caveat. I caveat by saying the angelic indigo human. Because we have got to identify with that aspect. We have hitherto been identifying with a far darker aspect of who we are and who we were, which is why we've been involved for at least 13,000 years since the fall of Atlantis. We've been in a blood cult. We've been orchestrated through the brotherhood of the snake in that sense. So the Khazarian mafia, the Babylonian priesthood, the secret societies, government itself, the Vatican complex. What lies beneath that Saturnian ritualistic, blood ritualistic, adrenal, chrome harvesting, Saturnian satanic complex is the psycho civilizational basement. It's rotten. But as it's now being exposed to the light, that infection is able to heal because of the emergence of this new quanta of vibral light. And the new quanta of light that we're moving into is a galactic phenomenon. It's something which happens every 13,000 years. As we swing through the grand procession of the equinox. We move through a photon band. That's a fact. And as we compress into that photon band, that light form is the quantum light that carries our memory from Atlantis from 13,000 years ago, from before the great deluge, the Noah and the Ark story. So that memory was locked in, embedded into the quantum 13,000 years ago when Earth passed through that light field and that light conducted an audit of the Earth and said, how do you want to play? Are you ready for an upshift, an upgrade? And we collectively responded at the, I guess, spiritual level. No, we're having too much fun playing with Atlantis with Atlantean technology. And we were not ready, willing or eager or able to engage more for Genetic upshift at that time, that's fine, no judgment there. But calamity befell because we moved into the galactic underpass and then there was a great deluge and a reset and then we survived. And it's taken 13 odd thousand years ago to now pass up again through the ecliptic into this photon band again, as we now transit from Pisces into the age of Aquarius. That is the geometry of revelation right there. That's the grace of God. That's the emergence convergence threshold event. And it's impacting every single creature on Earth. And in Earth as well as the plane of the Earth at the subatomic level, there is photons literally impregnating every single subatomic particulate that makes up this reality matrix. And so that vibral light is enlightening everything from the inside and doing a clarifying and a cleansing. That's why the civilizational basement is being revealed and exposed. Otherwise it wouldn't. It would remain sequestered and hidden. So revelation is an absolute science. And each one of us are able to step into a frequency zone where we step into that zero point, become the witness, withhold judgment, stop identifying with false light, stop gargling ketamine and taking all sorts of synthetic molecules into our system, which are prime inhibitors. I've been warning about this the last two years, begging everyone around me, please stop, cease and desist, cease and desist or you will move into a bifurcation process and become part of the luciferic agenda. Which is fine. There's your transhuman synthetic, you know, singularity point that Google schmoogle just predicted three weeks ago, three or four weeks ago, saying, oh, the singularity event for humanity is occurring end of 2045. Well, I've been saying for at least five years, publicly, no, the date line 0 is 2046, and that is vertical biological ascension at that date line. So to your question, will war continue by 2030, 32? It cannot. It cannot. It's not possible.
Podcast Host
Wow, it's hard to picture. It's been my whole life.
Sean Kelly
Of course it is. I grew up in a war in Africa, so I was the one for 16 years hiding behind grenade screens and living under machine gun fire. And yeah, that, that was my entire life. That's why I was so traumatized and then sought answers to the questions that emerge. What brings about that kind of diabolical premise of a society or a planetary gestalt? How can we allow for blood cult and the orchestrate orchestra of evil and chaos to Prevail. Surely there are people making decisions. And that was really the inquiry that I set forth to understand, and I've pretty much understood, I believe, the premise of it, and understand how we kept inheriting these bad dreams and bad stories from earlier generations that were also mind fucked and locked into systems, theories and logic that made sense in a very limited, from a very limited perspective.
Podcast Host
Wow. So dreams can be passed down generationally.
Sean Kelly
Well, they are, they're embedded into the, into the, the so called DNA and that, that's braided and that cascades down through epigenetics into you. And so you're carrying the compound and aggregate traumas of your ancestors, which is why the human being and the center point of the so called human heart, which is midpoint, somewhere between the belly button and the actual heart is an energetic center where the gut instinct issues from that zero point of where your true seat of consciousness is. Once you move into a state of grace, a state of the I am the witness, you are able to absolve those diseases in the blood. You're able to absolve your ancestral trauma patterns in one perfect action. That's actually the function of the angelic human is to awaken to that propensity and to absolve all the ancient traumas of the so called past. And in one moment that becomes noosphere, activation and upshift and then vertical ascension, biological ascension follows from that. Because ascension is a biological process, it's not a spiritual process.
Podcast Host
What do you mean by that biological?
Sean Kelly
Just that. Just that there is a transmogrification that will occur to the human form. It's already happening.
Podcast Host
Really? Is that what wisdom teeth are in a certain sense?
Sean Kelly
I don't know. That's an interesting question, but I need to sit with that. What I know is that the human body temple is able to receive coding sufficient to systemically begin to reverse aging. Provided you are commensurate. Your frequency is commensurate with this emergent light field that we're moving through. At the psycho planetary level, forgive me, at the level of the solar system, in the galactic plane. This new emergent light, if we are commensurate to it, to the geometry of that light, it activates within us the self existing, self revealing, self fulfilling template. The blueprint, which is an angelic blueprint. So what exists behind Sean Kelly, the entropic? I don't know how old you are, but after the age of. I don't think you've hit that threshold yet. But after the age of 27, 28, as a male entropy kicks in after the age of 22, 23. As a female entropy, really? Yes. So systemic age reversal takes you back ultimately as a male to 27, 28, and as a female 22, 23. We know that. So technologies exist today. I know because I'm involved with certainly protecting one of them, microbiological formulas and let's say, medical science applications that are able to arrest death, systemically prove and systemically begin age reversal. So as of, as of two months ago, the last time I checked in with the particular science group that I'm talking about that we're involved in, they had reversed aging of all of the lab rats by. I think it was. I think it was 45%. So a rat that was 90 years of age had reversed back to 50, essentially.
Podcast Host
Holy crap.
Sean Kelly
Right. And in all biological markers.
David Icke
All biological markers.
Sean Kelly
And that means staving off death to 250, 300 years of age, guaranteed as long as you don't get hit by a bus or an astronaut. So that's. That's assured now, and that's technology that's with us today. And that's only what I know of with my. With my work. What Russia and China and others may be sitting on, I couldn't guess at. But I think we've tapped into the leading technology. I mean, seven, eight years ago, I was involved with advanced microbiology with the endogenous production of the clotogene. And I put out a product at that time, which is still trying to get ahead. I pulled out. I've not been involved with that for a few years, but I'm just saying I'm aware, have been for at least 10 years, Advanced Microbiology. And I can tell you categorically today that we're at that shift point already where you will not be dying before the age of 250, 300 years of age. Categorically not.
Podcast Announcer
Wow.
Sean Kelly
Your generation. No way. Not even my generation. Because we can now systemically reverse age. Now, who or what are the forces or elements or powers that are prohibiting and inhibiting those technology advantages, getting to the high street, so to speak? That becomes a relevant question. And I could speak to that at great length, because if we know exactly who and what those forces, is that
Podcast Host
a worldwide thing, you think, or just us?
Sean Kelly
No, it's worldwide.
Podcast Host
Okay. Because I know the US is with pharma and all that is a whole nother topic.
Sean Kelly
No, I think you'll find that Europe is a whole lot worse.
Podcast Host
Really?
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Than the US A whole lot.
Podcast Host
What?
David Icke
Yeah.
Podcast Host
I'm shocked.
Sean Kelly
Italy a lot worse.
Podcast Host
What? 5x Italy has one of the longest lifespans.
Sean Kelly
I thought, well, that's because of olive oil and excessive sex and olive oil. No, forget Spain and Italy. Mediterranean. There's reasons for longevity out there. So what you're talking about is synthetic molecular intervention and pharmacological poisoning. That's what you're talking about. So. Yes, you're right about that. You're right about that. There are pagan lifestyles that still exist in the European culture, out in the rural communities. Absolutely. But if you study people in Berlin and Rome and London.
David Icke
No.
Sean Kelly
You'd find them just as synthetically.
Podcast Announcer
Wow.
Podcast Host
So all the major cities.
Sean Kelly
Yeah, pretty much. But the point being that the draconian influence of government is worse in Europe than it is in America.
Podcast Host
Really?
Sean Kelly
That's the point I was trying.
Podcast Host
Well, I know about the Vatican for sure. Right.
Sean Kelly
No, I'm talking about governments controlling even Canada, the commonwealth countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand. That's why these countries look at the deaths. The spiking post Covid in New Zealand is off the chart. Off the chart, New Zealand, yes, because New Zealand is the first litmus test of the satanic cabal. Always.
Podcast Announcer
Wow.
Sean Kelly
They'll first roll out in Australia, Canada and New Zealand, then England and core European countries, and then obviously Africa by extension. Because Africa hitherto has been horsewhipped by Belgium and the Netherlands and France and Spain and Portugal and England. Yeah, the old colonists. That's changing now. By the grace of the eternal God, that's changing. I'm deeply embedded as you know, and involved in African politics and hereditary redemption, what's going on on that continent. But that's all changing now.
Podcast Host
Yeah, I know Canada's rough. Their healthcare system's a nightmare. You gotta wait two years to see a doctor in certain parts.
Sean Kelly
Yeah. And I. Okay, I'm. I'm. I'm fairly well into my middle age. I've never seen a doctor in my life.
Podcast Host
Really?
Sean Kelly
Never.
Podcast Host
Not once.
Sean Kelly
Not once.
Podcast Host
Never got a broken bone.
Sean Kelly
The only time I got poisoned was a well, well known story. People know my work, know I was poisoned in 2016 and for three months nearly died. That was three days after a former defense minister in Lithuania. I'd just been addressing the parliament, and he had told me when I arrived in the country that I was on.
David Icke
On the. On the. On the.
Sean Kelly
The red screen and that. That I needed to disappear. After addressing the parlor, he said, go home to Bali for six months, Sasha, and just disappear. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Icke
I've heard that before.
Sean Kelly
And three days later, bang, I was zapped with a, with a frequency. A weapon that we now understand was DNA signature targeted bioweaponry.
Podcast Announcer
Wow.
Sean Kelly
And that was in a hotel room in Oslo. They had that in 16. Yeah, 2016.
Podcast Host
Because there's people looking into that now.
Sean Kelly
Well, because they were test bedding a 5G infrastructure in Scandinavia, Norway at that time, we found out. So only once I got zapped and, and, and did we then learn about what happened to me. And I then made a film. The following year, 2017, I made a film called the 5G Apocalypse, the Extinction Event. And in 2018, when I was doing the Westminster seating at the Tribunal for Human Trafficking and Child Sex Abuse and I was staging the International Tribunal's Judicial Commission in Westminster, Trump was visiting the Queen a few weeks after that for his first state visit. And Supreme Command came to my home to thank me for the a, for what we'd done with the Westminster seatings, exposing pedophilia and even the Epstein files and Pizzagate. All that stuff we were exposing in the court at 2018, that's early. Well, eight years ago, long before anyone else. And then thanked me for that and then also went on to tell me that my film the 5G apocalypse was being used as part of the training manual at Pentagon level. Which was fantastic news for me because I've always been an outsider, but I knew that what we'd studied and put into that film was absolute science. Warning the world about the weaponization of the biosphere through frequency.
Podcast Host
Yeah. And now they're working on 6G, 7G, 8G.
Sean Kelly
They're way beyond that. I don't think we even need to worry about that. And I'll tell you why. Sean goes back to the geometry of the emerging light is catalyzing inside the actualized human being sufficiently for this so called junk DNA in good humans to activate now and create this new plasma field, which is an actualized plasma shield that eradicates or resets any intervention at that so called subatomic level. So we don't need to even worry about frequency interventions anymore. By the grace, the emergent grace of this new light form. As long as we are conducting right action and standing in pure truth, it's simple as that. It just comes down to that.
Podcast Host
That's exciting because there was a lot of missing scientists and a lot of them allegedly direct energy weapon related incidents. So that's exciting that you're saying that.
David Icke
Yeah.
Sean Kelly
There's no question in my mind about this at all. The new science is not about how we can outwit or outflank or outrun the devil. You're not going to beat the devil on the devil's own checkerboard. We don't even need to play checkers with the devil. We simply need to step into the Witness. The I am, know your divinity, know youw Majesty. Assume that mantle. Take that throne as a son of God, a daughter of God, a child of God. More than that, a living man and woman of the living soil, that is the child of God. To own this earth plane and to own this incarnation and say, this is why I chose to steer my soul into this vector of time space in this delightfully fucked up plane of existence. I've come for a very good reason. And behold, I've arrived. To own and embody and enact that. What allows you to become the manifesto of outcomes is embodiment and enactment.
Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. There's people in ancient texts that lived a long time. Right, right. Hopefully we can hit those 250, 300 like you're talking.
Sean Kelly
Oh, Matthews was 10,000, so.
David Icke
10,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sean Kelly
We're going into the immortal paradigm. So once. Once you hit 250. 300 years of age, trust me, it means within seven years, that's. Even that becomes moot.
Podcast Host
Holy crap.
Sean Kelly
We will be at a point where we can simply choose to plasma project and leave. And that's rainbow body study. What happens even today amongst the Yellow Cap Lamas and the Tibetan monks? Dalai Lama witnessed one of his own masters enter the rainbow body.
Podcast Host
I saw that.
Podcast Announcer
Yeah.
Podcast Host
He could turn his body into light, right?
Sean Kelly
Yes. Well attested. All that's left is fingernails and hair and meat, metal fillings from the teeth. That's it. So each of us have got the capacity to again move the body into a dissolution if we choose to. But the point is that those rainbow bodies of those old Tibetan monks were decayed old bodies that had been around for a long time. Now, if you look at one of the great masters in Burma to this day, and I can show you photographs of him after, if you like, is. Is over well over 1100 years of age.
Podcast Host
And he's alive today.
Sean Kelly
We get this straight. 1000. Yeah, I think he's 1100 and about. What's the year is this? What?
Podcast Host
2020.
Sean Kelly
We're 2026 now. So he's about 1126 or 25 years, if I'm correct. It's. It's roundabout. There's well over a thousand years of age.
Podcast Host
Wow.
Sean Kelly
Yeah. Wizardo. Wizardo.
Podcast Host
I gotta get him on the podcast.
Sean Kelly
Well, you'd have to go to Burma. You'd have to go. He comes out, I believe, every two years. He comes out for. I think it's three days. Every two years he comes out to perform. He stands in the mercurial fire, which is lit, and he's untouched by it. He steps out of the mercurial fire and then he performs a darshant onto people who've come to visit him. And then after three days, he retires again for another two years. Wow, that's well known. I'll show you the photographs of him in the mercurial fire and his incredible visage, this incredible face. I've got them on my computer.
Podcast Host
Did you talk to him? Does he speak?
Sean Kelly
No, I've not been to see him yet. I've been invited. I've been invited to go when he next comes out, and I intend to try to do that. And that's to get to. I have to get to Burma for that. But there's also an oracle for the Moroccan royal family, the Maghrebites, and I hope I'm not gonna get into trouble by spilling the secret, but I spent a lot of time with the royal house there many years ago when I began my peace foundation. I spent a couple of years interacting very closely with the members of the royal. And I was taken by three of the princes up the Atlas Mountains one day to meet the 800-year-old oracle of the Moroccan royal house. So I put some delightful photographs of that somewhere. We had to take horses, obviously jeeps, to get to the Atlas in Marrakech, and then horses to get up a certain height, and then horses couldn't go further. We had to get on mules or donkeys, and they took us even further. And then we got off those, and by that point it was cold and we were above the clouds and the rest of the entourage were all stoned on marijuana. I don't touch anything. So I was the only sober individual with 2 kilometer sheer drops on these cliffs. It was terrifying. We got to the top and then we had to go into the spring, which I'm told somewhat reliably is the deepest spring on earth. So the top of the Atlas Mountains, and it was freezing. We had to submerge into that, come out the other side, be received by these little mountain people, little mountain Berbers, who took us, me and the three princes, and we went to where the oracle lives, which is a crack in the rock face at the top of this mountain, like an eagle's nest. Not A joke. And he's lived there for 800 plus years.
Podcast Host
Wow.
Sean Kelly
And attested by 800 years of the Maghrebite royal house. They all get their initiations from him. He wasn't bloody there. The Berbers told us he'd gone walkabout. And when he goes walkabout he disappears for a year at a time. So it hadn't been a pre planned thing. It was at. It was, you know, they were trying to give me the gift whilst I was in Morocco of taking me to meet this oracle. But I can tell you that that was absolutely true, that that man has been on record for 800 years in that part of the world. But the more I've gone into the subject over these years and I've met some of the immortal yogis who've come. Actually one time the head of the one yogi movement, famous yogi. I can't remember his full name right now. I've got some beautiful photographs I can show you there as well. But he came to visit me twice in England. I went to spend time with the Vaidyaratnam Raghavan, the jewel of Ayurveda, the great master in India. I went to live with him for a month years and years ago. I've spent a fair bit of time in the past in that echelon and exploring the dimensions of the ancient Vedas and the true form of the human body. I call it a body temple because the human body is a temple. That's why the pyramid and the Parthian and all these Fibonacci golden ratios, they're all an extension of what's hardwired into the physiognomy of a human being. Yeah, incredible stuff. But we are designed and wired for immortality in the same way that we were designed and wired for absolute pure truth. So the great lie was that we can't be told the truth. Because when, you know, I was taken to this premiere last week in Hollywood with Spielberg's new film. Oh, disclosure, sorry, worst film I've ever seen. Number one, have to say that.
Podcast Host
Damn, I'm not watching it then.
Sean Kelly
Ghastly film propaganda. Ghastly absurd midnight masonic propaganda. And Spielberg a delightful shuffling apologist for the satanic status quo. In that sense, unlike Stanley Kubrick, who to his credit at least tried to assuage conscience toward the end of his life by making Eyes Wide Shut, which went some way to telling the truth about the ritual satanic nonsense going on at that level. But other of these great iconic film directors, alas, were co opted when they were young into that program and they're part of just a controlled narrative. And for sure, that Disclosure film was so yawn. The stuff I was looking at 25 years ago with my foundation and meeting with people at that time, 20 years ago, I was meeting with people with my foundation who were spoon feeding aliens. And so we know what's been going on in that civilizational. In that, forgive me, that deep state basement. We've known about this for a long time. Laura Eisenhower is a beloved friend. She's a great font of wisdom when
David Icke
it comes to this as well.
Podcast Host
Absolutely.
Sean Kelly
But, but so for Steven Spielberg, for all this kind of buildup to this Disclosure, a film coming out and being this great, heralding this great new era of truth, please. All we saw was some gibbering alien gray in a wheelchair, you know, at the end of the last nine minutes of the film, making out that these black eyed Zeta reticulum type alien grays are friendly. No. Like, why was there no Andromedan or Pleiadian or Alpha Cintrin, any of the high frequency ETs? It's almost as though this film, Disclosure day, is designed to get us used to interacting with the Draco class of aliens to imagine that they are friendly, which they are foundationally not. So I see it as part of a satanic complex.
Podcast Host
Yeah. Those are the ones kidnapping, right?
Sean Kelly
Not anymore. I don't think you're gonna. I don't think you're gonna find anyone's allowed to be abducted now.
Podcast Host
Oh, really? When did that. When did that stop?
Sean Kelly
I think abduction stopped in 2020 first. 21st of December 2020 was the end.
Podcast Host
So recently era. Yeah. Was there a treaty with some.
Sean Kelly
I believe it was connected to what you would loosely coin, if you can conceal your laughter sufficiently, a galactic confederation of worlds, which, although it is a laughable notion, is more or less true. Absolutely. And that treaty event, I believe, exfiltrated at that time, which, curious enough, was the year of lockdown. And it's connected to why it was lockdown. It's connected to why it was locked down.
Podcast Host
Really?
Sean Kelly
Yes. So the 20th into the 21st of December, 2020 was the end of the end of time. 16th of August 1987, I think it was. Please God, I've got that date right. I'm normally good at this stuff, was the harmonic convergence triggered by my late dear friend Jose Aguelas, the great Mayan mystic, the reincarnation of Valent Votin Paco Votan, the Mayan God king. And he came back to this world, born in the 1930s, in the 70s, 80s, he decoded the Long Count Sulkan of the Mayans and put 2012 on the map. Yeah, Jose Arguelles. And 2012 became the biggest meme in the history of the world. And because it was connected to the end of time. So 21st of December 2012 occurred. And that was ironically Jose died in 2011, never stayed to even witness his own prophecy. But that cascaded forward from 2012 to 2020. So 2020 was really eight years after 2012 was really the end of the end of time of the Long Count Tzolkan in that sense. And because that signature came to a close, the Draconian Reptilian Inner Earth Reptilians were exfiltrated off Earth at that time.
David Icke
Really.
Sean Kelly
That's what I was again reliably informed. There are no in. I witnessed one Draco reptilian in 1996, and that was my first interfacing at that level. First and last. But my audience knows this. Well, I've spoken about. Only the last two years have I spoken about this. Although I told David icke this almost 20 years ago in my living room
Podcast Host
and I say run everything.
Sean Kelly
Yeah. And I've spoken to many people, high level, about my own experiences with extraterrestrial stuff. And I'm not a pundit in that arena and I have no interest in it, but I have my experiences and my sobriety can attest to what I've seen was absolutely happening. And it was profoundly interesting. Life changing stuff, meeting a Reptilian that many years ago. But I can tell you that the inner Earth imperial Draco Reptilians, as I understand it, were the Overlord Reptilian intelligences that were the progenitors of the orchestra of chaos, or of contrast that we have been subjected to for all of these thousands and thousands of years. So with those being exfiltrated off planet in 2020 is what has allowed for the emergence in the sense of this new light form. Because again, the fact that we're swinging through the ecliptic of the plane of the Milky Way, the fact that we've moved from Pisces into Aquarius, all of that is a clarifying, almost like a phase conjugate magic wand moving through the solar system, literally changing the geometry of light. I keep using that term because it's the only term I can use. And that means that certain permissions are no longer granted for certain aspects and elementals operating at certain frequencies are no longer permitted. That's it. And so they're being phased out of existence on the earth plane, which is what's happening to human beings.
Podcast Host
Wow.
Sean Kelly
So the attempt by the needles and vaccines and synthetic molecule intervention through air, water and soil has been to try and hack retard the process of the biological essential of humanity and moreover to hack into the genome of the human being. That's what the big play has been. That has failed.
Podcast Host
Yeah, they seem to be trying it with neuralink too. The brain chip.
Sean Kelly
I don't know enough about that. I don't pay much too much attention to whatever is happening in that arena of the transhumanist agenda. And I'll tell you why, Sean, because I recognize that the more we become transfixed into these new theaters of possibility, the more it takes away robs us of our instinctual prerogative to manifest the kingdom of heaven on earth. Now.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Sean Kelly
And I'm getting on like in Africa and Asia and elsewhere, getting on with actually those building in Tennessee, in North America as well, building blocks and actually beginning the new zero point social economy, New zero point social ecology. How we're bringing a sequestered technologies and so called Tesla free energy technologies into the market. Now we just unveiled 12 days ago, whenever the 21st was, was Midsummer's Day. We just unveiled three of our new earth technologies to our audience. Free energy systems.
Podcast Host
Nice.
Sean Kelly
You know, others, even mutual friends of ours, I just don't want to name their names. And without their permission, have also been incubating free energy technology for a long time with a lot of money going into those investments. So those technologies are kind of waiting to be brought in to the mainframe. Part of what I'm doing in Africa and the so called developing world is getting power purchase agreements and what have you lined up so we can bring those technologies in and match them to commercial agreements. That's the only time they're going to make sense.
Podcast Host
Yep.
Sean Kelly
And so bypassing the, the oil and gas hegemony.
Podcast Host
Yeah. And a big part of how you're doing that is with hemp. Right.
Sean Kelly
Hemp is a huge element because hemp in a sense is a catch all. It's a universal catch all phenomenon. So all you need to know about hemp is that prior to 1937, every farmer in the United States by law had to farm a minimum of 200 acres of hemp. And after the 1937 Marijuana Tax act was introduced, hemp was banned, as was cannabis. And that was a takedown of of airships which were also pegged to that. Ford, the biggest and pioneering automotive manufacturer in the world, was Already prepared. At that time, they'd built, built as you know, a hemp vehicle which is running on hemp ethanol. Beautiful car. And Henry Ford was prepared to release cars made out of locally farmed hemp. The tires were made out of hemp. Now, today, with advanced technology, we can extract graphene from hemp and silica and ceramic. So there's nothing we can't make from it. We make your computer, make the television screen that I'm looking at here. We can make all of this out of hemp and it will be bioresonant and have a greater 10, 11 times more tensile strength than steel.
Podcast Host
Wow. And the frequency is higher.
Sean Kelly
Yeah, frequency is God frequency. So we can. It's a gift from the stars. If you understand what the marijuana plant is. It was a gift from the star nation.
Podcast Host
Right.
Sean Kelly
It arrived on earth at a given point. It's a phenomenal story. Yeah.
Podcast Host
So you're pro cannabis. Yeah.
Sean Kelly
And it's there to offer us a zero point social economy. And we've never adopted it as such. Now we can do it. By that I mean, what, going to a supermarket or. No, no, going to a Walmart. Better going to Walmart. 100% of all the plastics in Walmart can be made out of hemp. Your entire vehicle that you drove to Walmart, everything, including the windscreen and the windscreen wipers and the hubcaps, every single component can be made out of hemp, except for what's. Anything that's made out of copper. Okay, so rare earth minerals or copper. The car could be running on hemp ethanol.
Podcast Host
Wow.
Sean Kelly
Right, so the food, there are hundreds and hundreds of food products you could make from hemp. You can make hemp cola, hemp beer, hemp wine, literally. It is the most versatile, adaptive. I think it's 60,000 odd things can be extrapolated out of hemp. So think about it, Sean. If you get hemp now, remove the outlaw, right? Get it legislated back in. Farmers start to farm with hemp. We now have the technological capability to have a hem, what you call a hemp train. It's a processing unit. It looks like the size of this room. You feed the hemp in one side and it separates the hemp oil, the bast fiber, the microfibers, the green fibers. It separates everything for you and you've got your products. Then next door to this room you have a hemp manufacturing hub. You have a 3D print capability. You have cast and mold and extrusion technology. You can make everything out of hemp. Locally farmed, locally produced. Well, it means that your car is no longer $25,000, it's now $2,500. It means your bicycle has gone from being $1,200 to being $75. It means your wheelbarrow has gone from being $75 to 75 cents. Every single thing starts zeroing out. Cost of logistics, of energy, of conveyance, everything is reduced by 90 to 95%. Do you understand? That ends war. That's my point. Once you've removed the third party profiteering element and you just get into locally farmed, locally processed, locally manufactured, we can have designers in South Korea coming through the Metaverse and designing toothbrushes, designing ladders, designing bicycles, and then they could be push button printed out. Nowadays, that's where we're heading. So in the next three to five years, war ends because we move into a whole new zero point social ecology and social economy.
Podcast Host
Is Africa producing the most hemp at the moment?
Sean Kelly
I can't speak to that. I very much doubt it.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Sean Kelly
I very much doubt it. Which we've been urging. I've been addressing parliaments and government officials and officers to speak to them about hemp and urge them to read, to reinitialize. Yeah, cultural.
Podcast Host
It says South Africa is an emerging leader.
Sean Kelly
That's definitely emerging. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Podcast Host
Hopefully you can get it over there. The US make any or no?
Sean Kelly
Yes.
Podcast Host
Okay. That's good.
David Icke
Yes.
Sean Kelly
It's beginning.
David Icke
It's beginning.
Podcast Host
Nice. What else we got, man? We covered a lot. This is fun. Anything else you're working on or excited about talking about right now? Any projects?
Sean Kelly
Well, I spoke to you about the new X Earth platform.
Podcast Host
Yeah. We'll include a link to that which
Sean Kelly
is the most important work of all, because that's the cornerstone, the underpinning to what makes all of this possible. Developing micronations in different parts of the world, reinitializing the understanding that we have with who owns what. Are you an owner of your farm or your home, or should you become a steward? Should you not take your farm or your house and put it into an irrevocable universal trust and then become a custodian, a beneficiary of the trust, which you can pass on to your heirs and successors, but the government gets nothing out of that. They can't steal money off you any longer. They can't tax you on it. Set your family up as your own private church with your ecclesiastical trust. That's going to cost you a few thousand dollars and get you smart. All of a sudden, you can move into a prosperity paradigm. But you're no longer the owner of the farm. The trust is the owner of the farm. You're a beneficiary of the trust. So that kind of new metric of understanding, ownership, stewardship versus ownership, is very much a part of the New Earth movement that we've been teaching through our university and through the Sovereignty Academy.
Podcast Host
Nice. We'll include links to that below. Thanks for coming on again, man. It's good seeing you. Pleasure. Yeah. See you soon. Check them out, guys. Peace.
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Digital Social Hour – Episode #2086: Sacha Stone Exposes How Scientists Have Already Reversed Aging
Original Air Date: July 29, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guests: Sacha Stone, David Icke
This episode plunges into the intersection of ancient wisdom, cutting-edge science, and controversial world events. Sacha Stone, activist and founder of the New Earth Project, joins Sean Kelly and David Icke for a wide-ranging, unfiltered discussion that moves from the suppression of advanced technologies and age reversal science to suppressed histories, governance, and humanity's cosmic role. Expect bold claims, spiritual philosophy, and a challenge to conventional thinking—touching on everything from hidden alien bases to immortality, from health sovereignty to the dismantling of war itself.
Genesis Treaties & Land Sovereignty (00:55–03:32)
Secret Societies & Hidden History (05:10–07:23)
Suppression of Radical Science (08:41–09:43)
Age Reversal Technologies (26:01–29:05)
Suppression & Control of Technologies (29:05–31:32)
Human Genome as ‘God Code’ & Cosmic Key (10:21–14:45)
The Birth Process as Spiritual Event (13:04–17:15)
War’s Imminent Demise (17:38–23:46)
Healing Generational Trauma (24:46–25:59)
Ascension as a Biological Process (26:01–29:05)
Living Immortals and Rainbow Body Phenomenon (35:45–39:32)
Free Energy & Technological Liberation (48:29–50:47)
Hemp as a Universal Solution (49:37–54:29)
Reframing Ownership through Trusts (54:40–55:53)
On the Age of Human Lifespans:
On Human and Cosmic Identity:
On ending war:
On Hollywood & Disclosure:
| Timestamp | Segment Description | Notable Speakers | |--------------|------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------| | 00:55–03:32 | Land sovereignty, Genesis treaties, systemic attacks | Sacha Stone | | 05:10–07:23 | Challenging scientific orthodoxy, Romanian mysteries | Sacha Stone, D. Icke | | 10:21–14:45 | Human DNA as “God code”; birth process critique | Sacha Stone | | 17:38–23:46 | The end of war, “photon band” cosmic cycles | Sacha Stone | | 24:46–25:59 | Inheriting & healing generational trauma | Sacha Stone | | 26:01–29:05 | Age reversal breakthroughs, immortality technology | Sacha Stone | | 35:45–39:32 | Living immortals, rainbow body, ancient yogis | Sacha Stone | | 48:29–50:47 | Free energy tech, hemp as a universal solution | Sacha Stone | | 54:40–55:53 | Irrevocable trusts & new social stewardship | Sacha Stone |
Summary prepared for listeners seeking a comprehensive distillation of the episode’s provocative theories, scientific claims, and spiritual perspectives.