Sarah Stock: “Empathy” Is Making Homelessness WORSE | DSH #1784

Summary

Digital Social Hour – Episode #1784 Guest: Sarah Stock
Host: Sean Kelly
Title: “Empathy” Is Making Homelessness WORSE
Date: January 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Digital Social Hour features Sarah Stock, a notable commentator, as she discusses controversial approaches to homelessness in America, social expectations around marriage, current right-wing controversies, mass migration, and academic trends. The conversation ranges from personal anecdotes to heated takes on cultural and political trends, maintaining a candid and provocative tone throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Empathy” Debate and Homelessness (00:00, 13:47)

• Stock’s Core Argument:
  Sarah Stock questions the prevailing idea of “empathy” in handling homelessness, claiming that allowing homeless individuals to remain on the streets is a form of neglect rather than compassion:

  “Is it not having empathy for them to just let homeless people destroy themselves and die on the streets?... It would be much more empathetic and loving to take these people and put them in an institution.” — Sarah Stock [00:00, 13:59]

• On Mental Health and Addiction:
  She argues that most homeless individuals today suffer from addiction or mental health issues, making them unable to “consent to their own demise,” thus warranting intervention.

• Critique of “Left” Approaches:
  Discussing “anti-homeless architecture” and campaigns focused on preserving homeless people’s rights, she suggests such approaches are misguided.

• Host’s Experience:
  Sean Kelly relates feeling less safe and more wary around the homeless over time, shifting from giving directly to using shelters for donations.

  “I used to have a lot more empathy… but now these days, like, I need to value my safety.” — Sean Kelly [13:47]

• Call for Institutional Solutions:
  Sarah openly questions why institutionalization isn't more widely considered:

  “I don't understand why we can't do that or why this isn't something that's talked about more.” — Sarah Stock [14:43]

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2. Viral Wedding Story, Social Pressure, and Gender Norms (01:17)

• Wedding Going Viral:
  Sarah discusses her upcoming wedding, notable for going viral due to criticisms over her engagement ring size.

• Critique of “Three Months’ Salary” Ring Rule:
  Both Sarah and Sean ridicule excessive expectations, noting how social media pressures deter many from marrying due to unrealistic standards:

  “It’s just like a crazy social expectation... this is why young people aren’t getting married anymore.” — Sarah Stock [02:32]

• Trad Wives & Internet Infighting:
  Sarah details online drama with “Emily Saves America,” related to attacks on traditional/conservative women’s roles.

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3. Politics, Israel, and Foreign Influence Claims (05:00, 07:55)

• Foreign Government Funding Accusations:
  Both guest and host discuss being accused of “shilling” for Israel or Qatar, dissecting how such allegations swirl in online conservative circles.

  “If you don’t want America to be funding Israel’s wars … apparently you’re getting paid by a foreign government.” — Sarah Stock [07:09]

• Propaganda and College Experiences:
  Sarah recounts being offered payment to bring pro-Israel events to campus, highlighting soft-power tactics used by states with political interests.

• Personal Safety Abroad:
  Stock expresses concerns about visiting Israel, referencing the case of an American journalist allegedly detained by Israeli authorities.

  “I literally feel like I would feel safer going to Russia or China than Israel.” — Sarah Stock [07:36]

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4. Canada, Urban Decay, and Immigration (11:09, 12:21, 16:06)

• Canadian Upbringing:
  Sarah, a dual US-Canadian citizen, shares her experience living in Canada, noting high costs of living, poor weather, cleanliness, and demographic shifts:

  “The whole city smells like pee and there’s homeless everywhere. But then also it’s like no one speaks English ... it’s like you’re in a foreign country or something.” — Sarah Stock [11:09]

• Homelessness in US Cities:
  Both describe a sense of urban decay in major US cities, with widespread homelessness linked to safety concerns for ordinary residents.

• Mass Migration and Demographic Change:
  Sarah calls mass immigration the nation’s central issue, advocating for deporting illegals, denaturalization in some cases, and a total “moratorium” on new immigration to prevent cultural and economic fragmentation:

  “It’s literally necessary … We want to have a country. We want to have a unified group of people … What do Americans have in common at all anymore?” — Sarah Stock [17:17]

• No ‘Plan B’ for Native-born Americans:
  Asserts that, unlike immigrants, native-born citizens have nowhere else to go, expressing anxieties about becoming a minority:

  “We don’t have a Plan B. This is our home, and everyone else kind of does.” — Sarah Stock [19:36]

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5. Conservative Infighting (19:46)

• Candace Owens vs. Others:
  Sarah sharply criticizes Candace Owens, calling her theories incoherent and libelous regarding the “Charlie” situation. She accuses Owens of making unfounded public accusations.

  “When she got pressed … she literally said, ‘Well, I don’t have any direct evidence … but it’s a feeling.’ … her fans are crazier than she is.” — Sarah Stock [20:45]

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6. Academic Trends and Pedophilia Debates (22:13)

• Pedophilia Destigmatization Claim:
  Sarah details an investigation into academic efforts to “destigmatize pedophilia,” claiming some elite academics campaign to redefine clinical terms and legitimize “ethical” outlets for pedophilic attraction:

  “There are academics from Harvard … part of a group that seeks to destigmatize pedophilia because they basically think it’s bad to shame people for having attraction to children.” — Sarah Stock [22:13]

• LGBT Discussion & Social Trends:
  The conversation briefly turns to whether an increase in people identifying as LGBTQ+ is due to social influence versus innate causes, with Sarah arguing environmental factors play a large role.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Homelessness and “Empathy”
  “It would be much more empathetic and loving to take these people and put them in an institution.” — Sarah Stock [00:00/13:59]

• On the Engagement Ring Controversy
  “I still don’t understand why it went viral … There was this whole like, viral energy around attacking the people hating on my ring.” — Sarah Stock [01:41]

• On City Life in Canada
  “The whole city smells like pee and there’s homeless everywhere … it’s like you’re in a foreign country or something.” — Sarah Stock [11:09]

• On Foreign Influence Accusations
  “If you don’t want America to be funding Israel’s wars … apparently you’re getting paid by a foreign government.” — Sarah Stock [07:09]

• On Mass Immigration
  “We want to have a country. We want to have a unified group of people that we feel like we have something in common.” — Sarah Stock [17:17]

• On Conservative Drama
  “Her fans are crazier than she is … it’s like the monster she created.” — Sarah Stock [21:13]

• On Pedophilia in Academia
  “There are academics from Harvard … who are part of a group that seeks to destigmatize pedophilia.” — Sarah Stock [22:13]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00 – Stock critiques “empathy” approaches to homelessness
• 01:17 – Viral engagement ring/wedding story
• 05:00 – Discussion of being accused of foreign influence
• 07:55 – Experiences, propaganda tours, and safety abroad
• 11:09 – Observations about Canada, Toronto, and immigration
• 12:21 – US cities and homeless crisis
• 13:47 – On feeling unsafe around homeless people
• 16:06 – Immigrant assimilation and moratorium idea
• 19:46 – Comments on conservative infighting (Candace Owens)
• 22:13 – Destigmatization of pedophilia in academia

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Closing

Sarah Stock can be found on X (@SarahCStock), YouTube (Sarah-Stock), and Instagram (@SarahCStock). She signs off with thoughts on mass migration and social trends, while Sean congratulates her on her upcoming wedding and wraps the episode.

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Tone:
Candid, confrontational, unapologetically direct, and openly critical of conventional sociopolitical stances—true to the “unfiltered” ethos of Digital Social Hour.

Transcript

[Sarah Stock]

And what's weird is, like, liberals maybe feel on the right think that having empathy for them is. I don't know. Sure. Giving them food and not violating their rights by letting them live on the streets. Like, I'm sure you remember when the left did all these campaigns saying, like, this is, like, anti homeless architecture because they don't want homeless people to sleep on the benches. It's like, is it not having empathy for them to just let homeless people destroy themselves and die on the streets? And, like, you're not even doing anything to help them. There's no way for them to consent to that because they're mentally insane or they're addicted to drugs. So you're not violating anyone's consent. They're not even consenting to their own demise. It would be much more empathetic and loving to take these people and put them in an institution. And I don't understand why we can't do that or why this isn't something that's talked about more.

[Interviewer]

All right, guys, here at amfest with Sarah Stock, let's go.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. I literally just got into the conference now, and it's, like, almost over, so I've just been having FOMO this whole time.

[Interviewer]

So you woke up late, huh?

[Sarah Stock]

Well, okay, yeah, I did wake up late, but also, it was just. Yeah, we only got here from California. It was a long drive, all day yesterday, and. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Oh, so you weren't here yesterday?

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, no, I wasn't.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Yeah. I think it ends tomorrow, right?

[Sarah Stock]

Yes. And I'm flying out tomorrow, so I won't really be here for that either, but at least I got to experience a bit of it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. What's. What's new in your world?

[Sarah Stock]

Well, I'm getting married in two weeks.

[Interviewer]

That went viral, by the way.

[Sarah Stock]

Yes, that went very viral. And, yeah, it's. It still doesn't feel real that I'm literally having my wedding two weeks from now.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

It's, like, the biggest day of my life. So that's kind of obviously the main thing on my mind right now.

[Interviewer]

But congrats on that. I can't believe how viral that went. I mean, yeah, you probably didn't expect.

[Sarah Stock]

It, but I still don't understand why it went viral. I mean, I. I don't understand, like, all these people hating on my ring, but then for some reason, like, the. There was this whole, like, viral energy around attacking the people hating on my ring. I don't. I didn't really get it, but the.

[Interviewer]

Red pill just kind of tackled on. Yeah, you know.

[Sarah Stock]

Exactly.

[Interviewer]

Pearl Davis got a hold of it and yeah. A couple other shows. I mean I didn't really get it. I got my wife a two karat ring which was about your size, I.

[Sarah Stock]

Believe and I, I picked out my own ring.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I could have bought a bigger one. I could have bought a smaller one.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, he would have gotten me whatever I wanted. But this is just the ring I wanted and I don't want to waste money on it.

[Interviewer]

It's a lot of money. I spent a lot of money and yeah, I mean the average person cannot afford like a four karat ring. Like it's over $10,000.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh, exactly.

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm glad it didn't affect you too.

[Sarah Stock]

It's just like a crazy social expectation that like this is why people, young people aren't getting married anymore. It's like you have to have, you have to have a home. You have like a man has to be able to provide and own a home first. Yes. You'll to afford a ring that costs like what, three months salary is the expectation you're supposed to have this massive wedding with. Everything has to be Instagram worthy, everything has to be perfect and people will have two year engagements just to plan a single day party. Like none of it makes any sense when like it's just like such a high barrier to entry for getting married. It's like, yeah, of course. And people don't even focus on the marriage, it's just on the wedding.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I can see why people don't get married if, if that's the case. I didn't know the three month salary rule, but that's a lot of money.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

For a ring.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh yeah.

[Interviewer]

Three months. Jesus. So I would have spent what, 90k? Jesus. Yeah, 90k.

[Sarah Stock]

It's like a, it's kind of just like a female competition thing to like try to, you know, you want to try to like have like a bigger ring than the other woman to prove something. You know what I mean? It's like that means you're loved more.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

And stuff. So I guess that's what Emily Saves America. I was trying to get at with that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. How did you, did you even know her before she made that tweet?

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, there's a little bit of Laura there because she had posted a video a little while before. Basically just hating on trad wives, like stay at home moms by saying they're boring. You know, their lives are boring. They're trapped by a man. It's a stupid decision.

[Interviewer]

Whatever.

[Sarah Stock]

And I. I didn't attack her personally, but I was like, this is really bad rhetoric. Like, this is someone who is supposed to be a face of our conservative movement. Why are you attacking women who are choosing to do the traditional conservative thing? You know, so. So that sort of happened a while before. So I think she, you know.

[Interviewer]

Oh, so she already didn't like you. Okay, so she wanted trad wives, or you wanted trad wives and she didn't. Is that what happened?

[Sarah Stock]

Yes, exactly.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sarah Stock]

That. That was what it is. But.

[Interviewer]

A whole battle and then where's the. The beef at now? Have you made up. Have you talked.

[Sarah Stock]

I haven't talked to her. I would make up with her. We could. Maybe we can. Some other things. I don't care. I don't really. Like.

[Interviewer]

There's bigger battles, I think.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. I don't really hold GR against people for that sort of thing, but I.

[Interviewer]

Think with all the infighting on the. Right now.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Bigger battles than ringside.

[Sarah Stock]

Hey, it was like she was getting paid by Israel. Right. And now she's getting paid by Qatar.

[Interviewer]

Saw that.

[Sarah Stock]

So now we might have, like, a little bit more in common. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

Did you get accused of that stuff Israel? Oh, you did too?

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. The whole getting paid by Qatar. Not as much as other people.

[Interviewer]

Were you at Qatar? Like, what happened?

[Sarah Stock]

No, I've never been to. It's just like, if you don't want America to be funding Israel's wars and you don't want Israel to be controlling our government, then you're also. You're apparently getting paid by a foreign government is sort of the.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

The argument, which doesn't really make sense.

[Interviewer]

To me, but I've been hit with the Israel one. I have not been accused of the Qatar one yet.

[Sarah Stock]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

But I'm sure with some of the guests I've been having on and come.

[Sarah Stock]

Well, even with the Israel thing, I mean, not everyone who is shilling for Israel is getting paid. Like, so I think there are people who just for whatever religious reason, like, even Christians support Israel. I think they're wrong. But it's kind of silly to accuse everyone of getting.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's be honest. Someone's getting paid, whether it's direct or indirect, but not all these guys.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean?

[Sarah Stock]

Definitely. It does exist.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. 100. On any. Any government or. Or big company.

[Sarah Stock]

I've been offered Israel trips before. I've been. I just graduated from college and I was presented with opportunities to bring some pro Israel speaker to my campus and get paid like $2,000, which like, maybe if I was like another college student and I didn't really care about, I would have like taken them up on that as a college student, you know what I mean? So they're definitely doing that.

[Interviewer]

No, I've been offered the flight. Yeah, believe me, I've been offered. But is that like getting paid just because you took a flight though?

[Sarah Stock]

Well, I think a lot of times they bring you on these tours so like everyone I know that's had this situation, like they sort of just bring you on a propaganda tour and while you're there they want you to be like posting like pretty pro Israel stuff. Like that's sort that to me, people that I've spoken to, like that's kind of the expectation and that's what happens. And they're kind of just like hit with propaganda the whole time. And on some of them it works. And like a lot of people, I think in our conservative movement, it's not maybe even necessarily that all of them are getting paid, but it's like some of them went on these propaganda tours and they're like, oh yeah, I love Israel, you know what I mean? Because they like had a cool experience there and they believed everything that was told to them.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that to me is weird. Like, I mean Qatar or not Qatar, Dubai wants to fly me out, but it's for a business conference for me to do interviews.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, yeah, that's a little bit different. It's kind of, it kind of sucks too. Cuz like I want to go to Israel at some point too. Just cuz I like seeing new places. Like yeah, like that's where Jesus was born. That's where he died. I want to see those sites. But it's also like now you can't really go and let like, like now it's like I don't want to go to Israel because I just, you know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

If I ever went there, I would never post it.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, exactly. So it's like, it's kind of like. And then also I'm kind of like scared of the Israeli government. Like I don't, I don't know, I think I would literally feel safer going to like Russia or China than Israel.

[Interviewer]

In terms of the government. You would probably need like someone there to guarantee your safety.

[Sarah Stock]

Exactly.

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean? Have you been pretty outspoken about Israel or.

[Sarah Stock]

I, I would say not as much as other people. Like, it's not really, I guess my number one issue or anything. But yeah, like I'll speak about it. Yeah. I mean, I know an American journalist that I used to work with that was quite literally kidnapped by the Israeli government. He was placed in solitary confinement with little to no food for three to four days. His name's Jeremy Lofredo. He's like shared the story in detail.

[Interviewer]

He's a U.S. citizen.

[Sarah Stock]

Yes. He's like completely.

[Interviewer]

He's like, oh, how is that possible?

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy.

[Sarah Stock]

He was on a journalist trip. He was in the West Bank.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. But a U.S. citizen, that's. That's just crazy to me. Wow.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. They tried to accuse him of like espionage or not espionage, but.

[Interviewer]

Well, I know they don't like outside journalists. Yeah, that's. I think everyone can agree on that.

[Sarah Stock]

It was, it was a terrifying story and it was just so crazy because when that happened, I was, I was assuming that there were people that knew him that I knew that usually defend free speech in America or other countries like Canada, Australia, whatever. And so it is kind of crazy. Like if that happened in America, like if America was arresting journalists for doing journalism, like this would be the biggest human rights crisis ever.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

And like every conservative would be speaking against that. But when it's like a foreign government does that to our people, you don't even want to criticize that government.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

And that's crazy.

[Interviewer]

I guess free speech isn't everywhere.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You actually went to Canada.

[Sarah Stock]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

You did not like it?

[Sarah Stock]

Well, I. So I was born in Canada.

[Interviewer]

Oh, you were born there?

[Sarah Stock]

I'm a dual citizen. Canadian, American. I live here now. Marian. Americans are going to stay here. But I did grow up in Canada.

[Interviewer]

In Toronto?

[Sarah Stock]

No, I grew up in Ontario, but I've. I lived in Toronto for a summer doing journalism like man on the street type videos. And no, that was not really the best.

[Interviewer]

Not safe.

[Sarah Stock]

I'm just not a fan of Toronto.

[Interviewer]

I don't hear the best things about it.

[Sarah Stock]

Well, there's really just like.

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[Sarah Stock]

Sean Mobile qualities. In terms of cities, like I like a lot of cities actually, but it's like so overpriced. Obviously. Weather is not great in Canada. It's like cold most of the time. In addition to that, like the whole, whole city smells like pee and there's homeless everywhere. But then also it's like no one speaks English even. Yes. It's just been flooded with Indians.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sarah Stock]

So it's like the entire city, it's like, it's like hard to find like a English speaking person. It's like you're in a foreign country or something. So I was doing journalism there and it. Sometimes I would be like, I feel like I'm like the only white person I've seen in blocks. And that's kind of crazy because this is like Canada.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

You know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

That's how I feel in Miami sometimes.

[Sarah Stock]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

Everyone speaks Spanish there.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It's pretty crazy other cities. Have you been at Dearborn, Michigan yet?

[Sarah Stock]

No, I have not.

[Interviewer]

You haven't reported there yet?

[Sarah Stock]

I have not. I don't know if I want to go.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that might be dangerous, right? Yeah, I think Cam Higby just went there, so. Okay, well, we'll leave it to him to that dude gets assaulted.

[Sarah Stock]

Ohio. Maybe next year.

[Interviewer]

What's going on there?

[Sarah Stock]

Those are the Haitians reading. The cats eating the dogs.

[Interviewer]

They're still wreaking havoc over there, I guess so.

[Sarah Stock]

I haven't heard anything about that in a while, but yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Major cities are being overrun these days in America.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh yeah. And it's, it's like there's no, like, I can't even think of a single major American city that's like a nice place to live anymore, you know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

Even here I was. I'm sure you've seen all the homeless people walking around even.

[Sarah Stock]

Because I think of Phoenix as like, sort of like a clean, nice city. Like most people I know here are nice. Like well dressed, everything like that. And you walk outside, it's like, why is there homeless people everywhere?

[Interviewer]

Every block? Yeah, every block. Yeah. It was sketchy last night, walking around.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh yeah.

[Interviewer]

My. My editor walked back to the hotel and he said he had to like start running at a certain point.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh yeah. No, it's like scary. It's like, it's like we're in the Walking dead. I feel like everyone. People don't talk about, like how homelessness is such a big issue, but it's like you feel like you're in the walking dead. Like you don't know what these people are going to do. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

Because there's a drug issue now, there's a mental health issue. It's not just like a homeless issue.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Because homeless people used to be. Whatever.

[Sarah Stock]

Like, yeah, like maybe you would have someone whose house burned down and they need to couch surf or. I don't know, like that's a little bit different. Like almost every single homeless person now has either like insane addiction problems or insane mental illness issues. And usually it's both. And I don't feel safe, like being in the streets alone of any major city. And I don't think it should be like that.

[Interviewer]

I used to have a lot more empathy. Like, it sucks to say this, but, like, I used to have a lot more empathy for homeless people. I would give them food, give them water, sometimes money. But now these days, like, I need to value my safety.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. And what's weird is like liberals and even maybe people on the right think that having empathy for them is. I don't know. Sure. Giving them food and not violating their rights by letting them live on the streets. Like, I'm sure you remember when the left did all these campaigns saying like, we need. This is like anti homeless architecture because they don't want homeless people to sleep on the benches. It's like, is it not having empathy for them to just let homeless people destroy themselves and die on the streets? And like you're not even doing anything to help them. There's no way for them to consent to that because they're mentally insane. Right. Or they're addicted to drugs. So they're not. You're not violating anyone's consent. They're not even consenting to their own demise. It would be much more empathetic and loving to take these people and put them in an institution.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

And I don't understand why we can't do that or why this isn't something that's talked about more. But I don't know, it's like we're not loving the homeless people and we're not protecting children, women, like all the people who have to walk the streets and be around these crazy people.

[Interviewer]

Well, it's because people think government can solve it, and we think we could give the government money to solve it, and then nothing gets done.

[Sarah Stock]

Well, it's like they think you can just like, throw money at them and they're not going to have these, like, deep rooted issues.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's not how money doesn't work. Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

Never.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I used to actually, like, go to Venice beach and, like, donate, like, give out sandwiches. Now I just go straight to the shelter because safety is just, like, an issue now.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You know, some of these guys got weapons. Last night there was one with a knife and I was just walking around and I could see him eyeing me up. I was like, holy.

[Sarah Stock]

Venice beach is the worst. I remember I had to go never, like, stay at Venice beach for long and, like, have to go to the bathroom because there's nowhere to go. And then you go in the bathroom and it was like every single stall had feces, like, on the ground and like on the walls. Like, that was like a nightmare. I didn't even. I didn't go in there. It was like I almost threw up seeing that.

[Interviewer]

I would have held it in.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, no, I did. Because it's, like, horrifying. It's like we're like, we're allowing these people to just like, live literally, like wild animals and just like poo and pee everywhere.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, It's.

[Sarah Stock]

Why are we doing that?

[Interviewer]

Other than homelessness, what else do you think is a big issue?

[Sarah Stock]

This country needs to focus on 100% mass migration. Immigration issue. Yes.

[Interviewer]

Getting them out or.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah, get the illegal ones out. I think some need to be denaturalized and also just stop the flow. I mean, we're still. Even under the Trump administration, they're still letting legal immigrants come.

[Interviewer]

Are they in? I thought he closed down the border.

[Sarah Stock]

Well, illegal ones, yeah. But they're still letting mass waves of legal.

[Interviewer]

So do you want in a moratorium where they pause all. Yeah, immigration.

[Sarah Stock]

And people think that's extreme, but it's actually very precedented. Like, even in the past, we would let Irish people in and then it would be like, okay, the Irish are causing a few problems. Right. Let's. Let's take a. Let's just like, pause and figure out what's going on. Right. And that's how immigration worked. It would be like, we'll open the doors for a bit. We'll pause and let everyone integrate.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

And make sure we don't have anyone we let in who is causing a bunch of problems. And if we did, we send them back.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Because there's a housing issue right now. The jobs are being taken with AI and with the illegals, I think. So I guess a pause wouldn't be the worst idea.

[Sarah Stock]

I think it's literally necessary because it's. And it's. Yes. The economic issues are important, and I think that affects young people more than anyone. We want to have a future. We don't want to live in an apartment for the rest of our life and be wage slaves and whatever. We want to be able to have what our grandparents had. But it's not just economics. We want to have a country. Right. We want to have a unified group of people that we feel like we have something in common. We have a shared history. We have a shared future. And I just feel like we. Like, what does. What do Americans even have in common at all anymore?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

Right. And it's like, the more people we let in that treat our. Our country like an economic zone. And they'll be open about that, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

They'll say, I came here for the financial opportunity. If my home country had better economics, I would have stayed there. I've seen them say this, and this is how most of them feel. So they treat our country like it's just a place to extract wealth, where we. This is just our home. Right. But we don't have anywhere else to go.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

You know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I don't have a Plan B. Unfortunately, we don't have.

[Sarah Stock]

Not everyone has a Plan B. Not everyone has a home country where all their families at and whatever. It's like, this is our home. This is the only place our children are going to live, our grandchildren, and we don't want them to become a minority in a country where everyone else just got there.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah. If Newsom wins at 28, we got to start thinking of plan Bs. I think. I don't know where to go.

[Sarah Stock]

Well, I don't think there is a. I don't know. I don't think there is a Plan B. Like, for me, it's like, it'd be.

[Interviewer]

Tough in our space because free speech is important for our jobs.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I don't know any other countries, honestly, where.

[Sarah Stock]

I mean, Think about it. So, like, if. If white Americans become minorities in America, which is happening. Which is.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, we're.

[Sarah Stock]

We are literally on that trip. Even if we paused all immigration now, it would likely they will still be.

[Interviewer]

Because we're not having kids at a high enough.

[Sarah Stock]

Exactly.

[Interviewer]

So I think within our lifetime, actually, it will happen.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. So, like, if white Americans, like, if you want to be in a country where you're not the minority, where do you go? Europe. The same thing's happening there.

[Interviewer]

Well, certain countries are doing better than others.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I would say a majority of them are struggling even then.

[Sarah Stock]

It's like, I don't want to go to Europe. My ancestors built America.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

I want to say I feel like I, you know, they did this for me.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

I didn't do this for people on the other side of the world. They did it for me. Right. It's my country.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

And I don't know that's. I just wish more Americans realized that, like, we don't have a plan B. This is our home, and everyone else kind of does.

[Interviewer]

Have you taken any sides yet on all this fighting between Ben Shapiro calling out Megan and Candace? Who else is calling people out? Tucker's calling out Ben Shapiro. Are you just kind of staying in the middle of all of it?

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. So I think Candace Owens is insane, personally. I mean, I used to like her stuff, but I. I've just seen her. I just like her thinking. Just, like, devolve with this Charlie Kirk thing where I. I don't think anything she's saying is really coherent. I mean, I've watched it myself. Right. And her theories just. It doesn't make any sense. Like, sure, you can say pinpoint and say, yeah, there's some weird things. But instead she does this thing where she's like, we know. We know what they did. We know they're all in on it. The people closest to Charlie were. His life was like a Truman Show. He was portrayed by the closest people closest to him. And she's stating this stuff like it's a fact. And when she got pressed about this recently, trying to remember who it was. That.

[Interviewer]

Pierce.

[Sarah Stock]

Yes. By Piers Morgan. She got pressed about this stuff, and she literally said, well, I don't have any direct evidence that they knew about the murder, but it's a feeling. Right. So it's like, okay, so you're accusing Charlie's friends and family that just lost him, that saw him get brutally murdered of being in on it, but you don't even have any evidence, and you have millions of people watching this and believing this lie. And her fans are crazier than she is.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, her fans believe everything. Yeah. I would have loved to see that meeting she had with Erica. I wish they recorded part of it.

[Sarah Stock]

You know what it was? It was like, okay, so here's the evidence. We didn't kill Charlie and here's the evidence you're wrong about these things. So now. And we have evidence that you view this evidence. So now we'll just sue you for libel if you continue in defamation, say.

[Interviewer]

That they were ready to sue her, so.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh, that has.

[Interviewer]

I'm sure she.

[Sarah Stock]

I mean, four lawyers. I wonder why. It was lawyers that were.

[Interviewer]

I'm sure Erica brought legal cuffs. Yeah, I was.

[Sarah Stock]

Eric, I'd be pissed.

[Interviewer]

I she toned back since I haven't been following her. She does.

[Sarah Stock]

Oh, yeah. Well, since that video, she was basically like walking back on a few things and now her fans are all mad at her and our fans now think like, she's in on it too. And like she's a fed, which is like really funny. It's like the monster she created. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

So they think Tucker's a fed and Candace is a fed now.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Crazy times. We're in. What's the next investigation you got planned or anywhere you're going?

[Sarah Stock]

I don't really have any investigations planned right now. I guess in terms of like investigative journals. One thing I was looking into was, which I have a very in depth article about. This is left wing academics trying to endorse pedophilia. And this is a real thing. There are academics from Harvard, from like plenty of these elite institutions who are part of a group that seeks to destigmatize pedophilia because they basically think it's like bad to shame people for having attraction to children. And they've been doing this for a while and then you see they've actually been changing the literature are changing. They have lobbied to basically change the definition of pedophilia in the DSM 5. So this is like sort of where we're headed right now. Right. I think this is the next thing. And I don't think anyone knows about that. So that's one thing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I haven't heard about that. It doesn't shock me, though. Yeah. Because I feel like that makes sense to me.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah. It's sort of this whole idea that's like. Because if people, if you think about it, if you make the argument you're born gay, you can't control who you're attracted to, it's only one step further to say, well, you're born attracted to children. Right. You can't control that. So we shouldn't shame people for being attracted to children. And so there's plenty of these groups in Germany. They're legalizing child sex dolls and that sort of thing. So they're trying to say, oh, there's an ethical way for pedophiles to engage in pedophilia. Right, right. And then it's like, I'm pretty sure the reason there's so many pedophiles right now. This is, like, a very dark subject.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

Is because there's so much child.

[Interviewer]

I can see that.

[Sarah Stock]

And that's what.

[Interviewer]

More exposure.

[Sarah Stock]

That's what leads them down this path. So the idea that you're going to stop that by giving them more of it instead of just, like, locking them away forever, I. I think that's crazy.

[Interviewer]

The gay stuff fascinates me because, yeah, there's more gays now, but it makes you wonder, like, was that because you instilled thoughts into children's heads?

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Or is it because they're more open to speak out? Or both. It could be both, but, yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

I mean, I don't. I don't think people are. I don't think there's, like, a gay gene. I don't really know what the. I don't think there's one factor, though. I think there's, like, multiple environmental factors.

[Interviewer]

Yes.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I mean, when I grew up, like, it was a big deal if you came out as gay, like, in Jersey.

[Sarah Stock]

And that's, like, cool. Like, if you're straight, you're born.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Now it's sick. Like, if you come out as gay, people hype you up.

[Sarah Stock]

Well, it was like, every girl in my high school was, like, bi.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sarah Stock]

They're all dated guys. And I feel like that's like a big. That's a big thing, right?

[Interviewer]

All the girls. Vegas is known for that.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

All the girls are by there.

[Sarah Stock]

It's like, I feel like if you're. If you're a girl and then you're like, I'm bi, usually just means you're a hoe, you know?

[Interviewer]

Like, I love that.

[Sarah Stock]

That's kind of true.

[Interviewer]

Where can people find you, though?

[Sarah Stock]

People want to find me. I'm on X. That's where I'm most active at. Sarah C. Stock. I'm on YouTube. Sarah Dash stock. And I'm also on Instagram. Sarah Cstock.

[Interviewer]

Congrats on the wedding and enjoy the honeymoon.

[Sarah Stock]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Good to see you. Yeah. Check her out, guys. Peace.

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[Interviewer]

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