Shane Ginsberg: Courses vs. College: The Smarter Investment?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Shane Ginsberg: Courses vs. College: The Smarter Investment?
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Shaney Rich (aka Shane Ginsberg of Street Polar)
Date: August 19, 2025

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Main Theme

This episode features a candid, controversial discussion between Sean Kelly and social media personality Shaney Rich, exploring the debate between traditional college education and alternative paths such as online courses. The conversation also touches on media bias, generational programming, the rise of street interview content, and the impact of cryptocurrency on personal finance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Online Courses vs. College: Value, Scams, and Investment

• College as an Overpriced, Outdated System

  • Shaney Rich argues that college tuition (up to $60,000 per year) is often a poor investment, especially when students learn business from professors who have never owned a business, in contrast to practical, often cheaper online courses.
  • “How is somebody going to call a course seller a scammer for selling... a $3,500 course. But college is 60 grand a year over four years. You don't even know the student loan agreement that you're signing. And you learn business from a professor that never even owned a business.” —Shaney Rich [07:18]

• Online Courses: Pros and Cons

  • Both acknowledge that some courses are scams, but good ones exist, particularly those taught by proven practitioners.
  • Shaney says he would pay for a podcast course from Sean because of Sean’s track record.

• Colleges as Vehicles of Ideology

  • Shaney claims colleges are echo chambers, enforcing ideological conformity, and punishing dissent (e.g., students getting failed for being pro-life in essays).
  • “That ideological part of college comes down to the institutions and the teachers, and that’s what causes the massive brainwashing.” —Shaney Rich [07:01]

2. Programming and the Media's Influence

• Media Bias & Echo Chambers

  • Mainstream media and the education system are described as major sources of societal “programming.”
  • “They've been programmed by the media, which is... the biggest threat to the American people.” —Shaney Rich [03:30]

• Legacy Media vs. New Voices

  • Podcasts and street interviews are lauded for providing platforms for diverse viewpoints outside the legacy media’s bias.
  • “That’s why creators like you (Sean) are also thriving, because you're giving the audience a chance to hear from people they normally wouldn’t hear from.” —Shaney Rich [01:50]

3. Street Interviews: Raw Truth and Social Impact

• Growth and Scalability

  • Shaney details the explosive popularity of his “Street Polar” interviews and how he's scaled to a multi-city operation.
  • Bans on mainstream platforms (10 times on TikTok, twice on YouTube) forced adaptation and helped focus his team’s growth.

• Authenticity and Audience Appeal

  • With the rise of AI and “fake” content, genuine street interviews resonate with audiences hungry for raw, real opinions.
  • “People need to hear the truth. And street interviews is the best format to get the truth because it's a double validation...” —Shaney Rich [09:46]

• Hostile Environments and Censorship

  • Shaney claims that confrontations and hostility happen mostly on the political left; right-leaning interviewees are generally more open.

4. College Campus Ideologies and Experiences

• First-hand and Anecdotal Accounts

  • Shaney (a school dropout who never attended high school or college) shares stories he’s heard about conservative speech suppression at universities, furthering his point on institutional bias.
  • “If they say that they're pro life, they get an F automatically.” —Shaney Rich [06:34]

• Campus Culture Critique

  • Both host and guest paint an unflattering picture of campus life, characterizing most students as “degenerates,” and suggesting college is overrated as a social or networking environment.

5. Money, Hustle, and the Alternative Path

• Shaney’s Unconventional Journey

  • Dropped out of school after eighth grade, started a successful credit repair business, and built a media brand—all without a formal education.
  • “I didn’t go to high school. I didn’t go to college. I don’t have a GED or any degree. And so I had to kind of shape my own view of the world.” —Shaney Rich [03:44]

• Motivation Beyond Wealth

  • Despite financial success and entrepreneurial drive, Shaney claims money is not his primary motivator; it’s about telling the truth and challenging media narratives.
  • “The importance to me is doing what I believe in... My passion and what’s fun is going on the streets, building an organic presence, showing people the truth.” —Shaney Rich [09:11]

6. Bitcoin, Crypto, and Generational Wealth

• Early Adoption and Family Story

  • Shaney first bought Bitcoin as a 14-year-old using lemonade stand money, inspired by his father, who liquidated stocks and a house to go all-in.
  • “My dad's like, Shane, you gotta go buy this. So I went and did lemonade stands on the weekends to make like 100 bucks a weekend and put that into crypto.” —Shaney Rich [11:23]

• Perspective on the Future of Crypto

  • Argues that true value of Bitcoin is much higher than current exchanges report, future price targets of $1 million+ are probable due to supply constraints and institutional adoption.
  • Recommends “Bitcoin Super Cycle” by Michael Turpin as essential reading on the evolution of crypto markets.

7. Viral Moments and Humor

• Controversial Viral Clips

  • Recounts a viral interview segment:
    “Would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?”—Shaney: “I’d rather date an illegal immigrant... Because if she talks back to me, I can call ICE and get her deported.” [14:09]

• Street Interview Impact

  • Shares how viral moments create real cultural discussion, attract intense online attention, and often confirm the views being presented.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Liberals are dumber than a bag of rocks. Like, they don’t even know what they believe in... I’ll sit here and debate a liberal until they want to walk away. And they always walk away.” —Shaney Rich [02:25]
• “Why are these kids not learning how to pay their taxes? Why are they not learning how to start a business?” —Shaney Rich [03:44]
• “The education system... that mental programming that you're subject to... most of this population is brainwashed.” —Shaney Rich [03:39]
• “If you launched a course tomorrow on how to start a podcast, like, I’d pay for it. Because look at the empire that you’ve been able to build.” —Shaney Rich [07:18]
• “You’re just being poisoned in not only knowledge, but with food too.” —Sean Kelly [08:30]
• "People didn't think [Bitcoin] could hit 100k... Now it dips under 100 and it comes right back, right. It just keeps creating new all time highs." —Shaney Rich [12:07]
• "I'd rather date an illegal immigrant... Because if she talks back to me, I can call ICE and get her deported." —Shaney Rich [14:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:41] – College costs vs. online courses, lead-in to main debate
• [01:50] – The impact and popularity of street interview content
• [03:44] – Shaney’s background: dropping out of school, entrepreneurship, critique of education content
• [05:06] – Hostility in street interviews, differences across political lines
• [06:10] – Experiences on liberal college campuses, stories of ideological bias
• [07:18] – Deep dive into the comparison of course sellers and college “scams”
• [09:11] – Shaney’s true motivation: message over money
• [11:23] – Shaney’s early Bitcoin story, family’s financial risk
• [12:07] – Predictions on Bitcoin’s future value and importance of institutional investment
• [14:09] – Viral question: dating a liberal or illegal immigrant; Shawney's controversial humor

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Conclusion / Where to Find Shaney Rich

• Instagram: @shaneyyricch
• X (formerly Twitter): (banned multiple times)
• Street Polar Media: Active teams in several major US cities

“If you want some authentic interview amazing... Check them out guys.” —Sean Kelly [14:58]

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Overall Episode Impression

This episode is a no-holds-barred, sometimes provocative conversation challenging the audience to rethink the value of college, the role of alternative education, and the degree to which media and institutions shape public opinion. Those interested in culture wars, new media, crypto, and alternative paths to success will find plenty of food for thought—and likely, a bit of controversy.

Transcript

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[Shaney Rich]

But college is 60 grand a year over four years. You don't even know the the student loan agreement that you're signing. And you learn business from a professor that never even owned a business. And it's like, so why is that not being called a scam? And I'm not saying that, you know, some of these courses aren't scams. We both know some of they are. But there are great courses out there that you can learn, whether it's e commerce, content creation, righteous networking, foreign.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay, guys, we got Shane here from Street Polar. You've definitely seen this guy's videos before. You get a stupid amount of views these days. Yeah, thanks for helping out.

[Shaney Rich]

Thanks for having me, bro.

[Sean Kelly]

Where's the latest interviews you've been doing up recently?

[Shaney Rich]

Like what platforms, locations we've been. So now, you know, when I first started creating straight interview content, it was just me and. But I got banned so many times. I've been banned 10 times on tick tock, twice on YouTube. And so now we have Street Polar media. So over 15 different in house Street Polars. We have a team in New York, Miami, Tampa, we have a team in Texas, we have a team in la, and we're just continually expanding there.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow, that type of content's been crushing lately.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah, I think, dude, like, you know, with all the AI content on the feed and you know, all the content that is just not realistic. I think people really want to see the truth. Right? Like, that's why your podcast is thriving, because you're having all sorts of voices left, right? Non political political. Like you give everyone a platform. Right. Which is something that is not traditionally done within the legacy media. And so like, that's why creators like you are also thriving because you're giving, you know, you're giving the audience a chance to hear from people that they normally wouldn't hear from.

[Sean Kelly]

Right. So do you go to liberal universities? You go everywhere?

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah, all the time. Like, we were just at the no, Kings protest weeks ago.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that must have been sketchy.

[Shaney Rich]

It was sketchy, bro. Those people are stupid. Those people are dumb, bro. Liberals are dumber than a bag of rocks. Like, they don't even know what they believe in. You know, I think that they have nothing to do. And so for them, they just want to feel like they're a part of a movement. And so if they go to these protests, whether it's the pro Palestine, whether it's blm, whether it's, you know, a protest in LA about the illegal immigrants and the mass deportations, like, they don't care what the cause is, but it. It allows them to feel a part of something, and that's why they go out. And so, like, they always walk away. You know, me, like, yeah, I support Trump, but, you know, I like to say I have common sense. Right? Like, I don't. I don't align with one party one way or another. I believe what I believe in, but I'll sit here and debate a liberal until they want to walk away. And they always walk away. When you ask them why, it's. It's nuts.

[Sean Kelly]

Just saying why.

[Shaney Rich]

Just saying why. They won't ever expand on it. It's like, you don't think that if you are so strong in your beliefs that you. You're so strong in your beliefs, you don't think that you'll be able to expand on those beliefs. I mean, I would, you know, if you ask me why.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, well, because you base yourself on facts.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

A lot of people have these opinions and they can't explain why they have them. Because they've been programmed.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah, they've been programmed by the media, which is. That's the biggest threat to the American people.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Shaney Rich]

But with mainstream media, when you have.

[Sean Kelly]

Data on your side and common sense, you can argue from a logical position.

[Shaney Rich]

And the education system. I mean, look, like I dropped out of school in eighth grade. Wow. So I.

[Sean Kelly]

That's the youngest I've heard.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah. It's probably illegal, looking back on it. Like, they suspended my license, but I still drove anyway. But I wasn't. I didn't go to high school. I didn't go to college. I don't have a GED or any degree. And so I had to kind of shape my own view of the world. Right. But when you go from, you know, K to 12 and then four years or six years or eight years of college, that mental programing that you're subject to, you know, why. Why are these kids learning X2Y to, like, why Are they not learning how to pay their taxes? Why are they not learning how to start a business? Why are they not learning what an S Corp is and what distributions are? And so I think that also plays into, like, the fact that most of this population is brainwashed.

[Sean Kelly]

Did you have a plan when you dropped out or you just dropped off?

[Shaney Rich]

No, I mean, I. I had a credit repair company in eighth grade. Sixteen.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah. So I started selling credit repair. It crushed. And I sold that to a funding company.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Shaney Rich]

And I just started making these street interviews, and I. I didn't even really want the money. Like, I just. I was so frustrated with Biden. He was so. Like, I always say, the only good thing Biden did is he solved obesity because nobody could afford food. But beyond that, like, I was so frustrated with what he did with the gas prices, with what he did with the Afghanistan withdrawal, that I just started going out and talking to, like, urban voters, you know, who love Trump. And I don't think that was showcased enough or really at all that, like, black people love Trump, Hispanics love Trump, and they did back then, and they still do now. And so, like, I just found a unique edge there and then eventually was able to capitalize and build a business off.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. So you're doing interviews in the hood?

[Shaney Rich]

In the hood, bro. Like in deep. Deep in south beach, in the hood of la, In Atlanta. I spent, like, two years out there in Fulton county going to Lenox Mall, and it was. It was a good amount of time. It was fun, though.

[Sean Kelly]

Did it ever get hostile?

[Shaney Rich]

No, only on the left.

[Sean Kelly]

Really? Yeah. Ever on the right?

[Shaney Rich]

Well, I mean, if you ask the black people about the transgenders, they get a little upset. Like, it just offends them, you know? Yeah, they don't like that. That sort of topic. But, no, never really, like, hostile at all. I mean, they love Trump, like, especially during the indictments, during the mug shots, and just, like, how bad Biden was doing, you know, they loved it. All that. All that stuff that.

[Sean Kelly]

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[Shaney Rich]

They did against Trump. The law fair backfired heavily.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you have to go undercover when you're doing the left interviews.

[Shaney Rich]

No.

[Sean Kelly]

You don't care?

[Shaney Rich]

No, I don't care. I love controversy. Like, I want them to know I'm there so they can come up to me and talk to me.

[Sean Kelly]

Which college campuses stand out to you?

[Shaney Rich]

University of Georgia. Georgia was like the. The biggest. The biggest shocker, just how stupid people are. Like, one of my buddies said he went there and he had a transgender professor. Then he dropped out. Uga.

Ucla, usc. I mean, really, any college, you know, like, any college. Because even if you're. You go to that college and you are a conservative or you believe in it, like, you can't talk about it. Right. You know, like, I've heard stories, and again, I never went to college, so I don't know for. For a fact, but I've heard stories where people have been assigned, you know, are you pro life or pro choice? And explain this in a college essay. And if they say that they're pro life, they get an F automatically.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow.

[Shaney Rich]

And it's like that ideological part of college comes down to the institutions and the teachers, and that's what causes the massive brainwashing.

[Sean Kelly]

What do you think of Trump cutting funding to Harvard?

[Shaney Rich]

I think it's great. Yeah. I mean, look, dude, like, you speak to a lot of course sellers, right?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Shaney Rich]

So how is somebody going to call a course seller a scammer for selling, for. Let's say they're selling a 3, 500 course. But college is 60 grand a year over four years. You don't even know the student loan agreement that you're signing. And you learn business from a professor that never even owned a business. And it's like, so why is that not being called a scam? And I'm not saying that, you know, some of these courses aren't scams. We both know some of they are. But there are great courses out there that you can learn, whether it's E commerce, content creation, righteous networking, real estate. I mean, there's so many different, you know, niches. And I'd rather learn from somebody that's done the business right. Like, if you launched a course tomorrow on how to start a podcast, like, I'd pay for it. Because look at the empire that you've been able to build. But then I go to school to learn marketing from a professor that's being paid 80 grand a year, that never actually marketed a business or owned a business. Like, it's backwards.

[Sean Kelly]

That happened to me. I was literally in marketing class at Rutgers, and he said he had literally, like, Three failed businesses and he's a marketing professor.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

And he never had a successful business.

[Shaney Rich]

And how much, how much was the tuition at Rutgers?

[Sean Kelly]

Well, I was in state, but even in state now is still like 15, 20K. I think.

[Shaney Rich]

That's insane.

[Sean Kelly]

Out of state's like 40, 50K a year.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah, a year.

[Sean Kelly]

Isn't that nuts?

[Shaney Rich]

And you don't even know what, what you're signing.

[Sean Kelly]

No.

[Shaney Rich]

As a young 18 year old fresh out of high school, like, what's the interest rate?

[Sean Kelly]

And the dorm I was in was built in the 60s. Literally, as soon as I got in my room, there was a letter saying there might be asbestos in the building. That was my college experience. And the food they give you, oh my God, we could go so many ways with college. But yeah, you're just being poisoned in not only knowledge, but with food too.

[Shaney Rich]

And with your environment as well.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[Shaney Rich]

Like all the other kids are mostly losers. I mean, some of them, not good kids come out of it and you find and you network. But you know, the parties. Right.

[Sean Kelly]

Like, the majority are degenerate.

[Shaney Rich]

The majority are very degenerates. And so they're like, I want to go to college just to have four years of having fun. It's like, why not create wealth now? Amass that and then have fun for the rest of your life.

[Sean Kelly]

Right? So that was always your goal, get wealthy early.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Where does money rank in terms of importance to you?

[Shaney Rich]

Oh, it's not, it's not, it's not the importance. Like, the importance to me is doing what I believe in. Like, dude, if I wanted to tomorrow I could make way more money. Law, I could launch a course probably tomorrow. You know, even I literally could do that tomorrow. And I've thought about it, but at the end of the day, like, that's not my passion. My passion and what's fun is going on the streets, building an organic presence, showing people the truth and taking over from the legacy media. Because CNN is so biased. FOX is so biased.

[Sean Kelly]

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[Shaney Rich]

Like, people need to hear the truth. And street interviews is the best format to get the truth because it's a double validation, right? So you see a random interviewer and a random interviewee and then you're on the other end of the screen like, oh my gosh. Like this, you know, controversial opinion that's being said isn't so controversial anymore. Like, I feel that I can say it out loud. Right. It's similar to what Elon did, buying X. Right. Like Elon bought Twitter, rebranded it to X. And then you had people like Sean McGuire and Sequoia Capital now coming out and donating to Trump. Like that would have never happened. You have Meta now and Google and all these platforms that have stopped censorship.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, right.

[Shaney Rich]

Because of Elon. So like all it really takes is one person to pioneer an industry and then from there it just, it spreads like a wildfire.

[Sean Kelly]

There's been careers built off street interviews. Hawk to a girl.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Came from a street.

[Shaney Rich]

One viral clip. Right?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Shaney Rich]

And she rugged that meme coin. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

That was the fastest downfall I think I've seen.

[Shaney Rich]

I've never seen a rug pull that fast though. And she didn't even make that much money. I've seen some crazy.

[Sean Kelly]

But she refunded everyone.

[Shaney Rich]

I think she did.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Shaney Rich]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

Like way after.

[Shaney Rich]

But yeah, probably like 25% of.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. When influencers get into crypto, it's. It's a bad idea.

[Shaney Rich]

No good.

[Sean Kelly]

Huh?

[Shaney Rich]

Have you ever got into crypto and done.

[Sean Kelly]

That's how I made my money in crypto. No, I never launched my own coin.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah, but what were you buying? Bitcoin, E. Everything.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. All the top stuff. I dabbled in the meme stuff.

In when I was in college.

[Shaney Rich]

So what year was that?

[Sean Kelly]

Six years ago.

[Shaney Rich]

Six years ago. I started buying Bitcoin in 2018.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn. ETH was.

[Shaney Rich]

ETH was 100. Bitcoin was 3K. I remember I first bought it, I was 14. Because my dad sold all of his stocks and bought bitcoin.

[Sean Kelly]

Wow. Good for him.

[Shaney Rich]

And sold a house and bought it.

[Sean Kelly]

Good for him.

[Shaney Rich]

And it was 6K. Bitcoin was 6K. And I'm a little 14 year old kid. My dad's like, Shane, you gotta go buy this. So I went and did lemonade stands on the weekends to make like 100 bucks a weekend and put that into crypto.

[Sean Kelly]

The hustle.

[Shaney Rich]

And it was 6k. And then Bitcoin went to 3k and everyone said it's a scam. They said sell now. Thank God I didn't listen. Thank God I didn't buy. And now what is it? 118.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Just hit all time high.

[Shaney Rich]

It's. It's significantly undervalued as well. Like the exchanges are not giving us the real price. I think right now the price of bitcoin is probably 180, 190k. It's not, you know, what's being shown on the exchanges.

[Sean Kelly]

There's People thinking, saying it will hit a million.

[Shaney Rich]

Oh that it'll hit a million. It'll hit far beyond that.

[Sean Kelly]

You think so?

[Shaney Rich]

I mean a million's programmed at the end of the day. Like people didn't think it would hit 100k. Nobody thought it was 100k. I remember when I'd go to sleep bitcoin was you know, 7, 8K. I'm like what if I wake up tomorrow and I see 100k? Like that was so out of reach. Then it broke that psychological barrier. I mean a bunch of other stuff happened in between but it broke that psychological barrier and now it dips under 100 and it comes right back, right. It just keeps creating new all time highs. It's been through you know, disgusting bear markets that would have wiped out, I mean it has wiped out most of the crypto industry other than bitcoin itself. You know.

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[Shaney Rich]

There was the Mount Gox in 2014, then in 20, you know 17 when it went to 18K and then it just tanked and it went all the way down to 3K. Then there was FTX in 2021 and 2022 and the meme coins and the, and the NFTs. Then there was you know a dip there. Went back to 60, went all the way down to 20. And it's the only one that keeps continually making new all time highs. I mean we've never had a currency with only 21 million circulating supply. That's just unheard of, you know. And then we have now companies adding bitcoin to their balance sheet. Like how much, how much bitcoin does Michael Saylor own? Like 597,000 Bitcoin.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Shaney Rich]

Like Tesla has it. We now have the institutions buying in a really good book. I don't know if you read it, Michael Turpin, the Bitcoin Super Cycle. No, look into that. It's a really interesting book and it's just talks about how the four year cycles are gone.

[Sean Kelly]

Michael lives In Vegas. I've met him a few times. I'll definitely give that a read. Yeah, we'll end off with this question. Would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?

[Shaney Rich]

I'd rather date an illegal immigrant.

[Sean Kelly]

Why?

[Shaney Rich]

Because if she talks back to me, I can call ICE and get her deported.

[Sean Kelly]

That's a blunt answer, but yeah. Yeah. And that was one of your viral interviews I saw, right?

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah, that was one with Gary the numbers guy. Gary the numbers guy. I love Gary, dude. He doesn't hold back. And. And somebody asked him would you rather date a liberal or date an illegal immigrant? And he's like, I don't want to date a liberal. They're whores. You know, they always run their mouth. They talk. And then a liberal woman comes right over and proves his exact point. And that's why it went so viral is it just resonated with the audience.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Where could people find you, man?

[Shaney Rich]

Let them know they could find us. Shaney Rich on Instagram S H A N e y y R I C C H Instagram x banned like 15 times on tick Tock. So not there. And then street polar S T R E e T P O L L.

[Sean Kelly]

E R Check them out guys. If you want some authentic interview amazing.

[Shaney Rich]

And make sure you guys subscribe to the digital social hour podcast. Make sure you add it. We need to get number one on iTunes, number one on Spotify, subscribe on YouTube, wherever you guys are watching and show as much support as you can. Cuz Sean has the number one podcast in the game because he doesn't give up.

[Sean Kelly]

Thank you, bro.

[Shaney Rich]

Yeah.