Interviewer (1:25)

NFR is a blast. I went for the first time last year.

Sheriff Candidate (1:28)

Yeah, it's. We try and come out every year. I ruined it this year with the, with all of the politics stuff going on.

Interviewer (1:33)

Yeah, you're.

Sheriff Candidate (1:34)

We're gonna, we're gonna miss it this year. But we talked about it when we came in, when we flew in this morning. We saw people getting off the planes in their cowboy hats and everything else.

Interviewer (1:43)

Yeah, I think it starts in a couple days.

Sheriff Candidate (1:44)

Yeah.

Interviewer (1:45)

Yeah. Your life must. Must be pretty crazy right now.

Sheriff Candidate (1:48)

It is. It is Multiple things a day. And really, for this, it worked out good that just. We were. We were getting on a plane anyway, so we just took a detour to Vegas in between where we were going tonight. So it worked out perfect.

Interviewer (2:01)

Yeah. I appreciate your time. I'm sure you're super busy right now. Big race, right?

Sheriff Candidate (2:04)

It is.

Interviewer (2:05)

Did you expect, like to ever do this?

Sheriff Candidate (2:07)

No, never. Never. That this certainly is. It was never. I would have never in a million years thought about doing this. And it truly was only in the last couple of years with things just going absolutely nuts in California. It was a slow progression over the decades that I've been there. Three decades I've been there. But it's really been on a downhill trajectory since 2019. 2020.

Interviewer (2:33)

Yeah. A lot of people have been leaving Cali, right?

Sheriff Candidate (2:35)

Yeah. For the first time ever, people are leaving instead of coming.

Interviewer (2:38)

Wow.

Sheriff Candidate (2:39)

And the numbers don't even really show it. They show that it's a, that it's, the numbers are going down. There's more people leaving than there are coming in. But it's even worse than you would believe or what they want you to believe because they're counting the people that are coming there illegally. Oh. And so they're making that the overall population. You know, they're saying it was only, you know, 400,000 or something that, that left, but it was 600,000 that came in illegally that they're counting. So it's. We've. We've lost over a million people. And the bad part of that is, is those are the people that are productive. Those are the people that own their businesses. Their businesses are leaving and their, their employees are leaving and workers are leaving and our younger generation is leaving for a better cost of living. And that's the future of your state. So it's a. We're in a, we're in a rough spot in California right now.

Interviewer (3:30)

Yeah. When I lived there in Woodland Hills, the price of my apartment was the same as a house. House out here.

Sheriff Candidate (3:35)

Yeah.

Interviewer (3:35)

You know what I mean?

Sheriff Candidate (3:36)

Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. And when you, when you think about, well, that's where my kids are. The, the, the price of what they can rent, what they're renting now in California, that's a massive house payment in other parts of the state. And so they're like, man, for what would be best for their family is not to live in California anymore.

Interviewer (3:56)

Yeah. I got a lot of people in the real estate friends that are buddies of mine, they say it's really difficult to get things done in California. They got away sometimes years to build.

Sheriff Candidate (4:04)

Yeah, it's. We, we just learned that on a, on a, on a national scale, really. Unfortunately, in January, with the burning down of the Pacific Palisades, those beautiful multimillion dollar homes that were all lost. And from the very beginning, just because of the over regulation of California government, they Were saying that it would be between five and 10 years before they were able to build their home back. And I've got lots of friends that build houses and they build houses, single houses and communities. And they say that they should be building houses 90 days from start to finish. 90 days, you can build a house. And California is three to five years. And it's all regulatory, a bad regulatory climate that politics has created in California and we just need to get rid of it. We need to, we need to get rid of all of the, the things that are preventing building from happening.

Interviewer (4:56)

Yeah. Nothing's getting done out there, man. Even the homelessness issue, they got paid billions to try to fix that. It's gotten worse.

Sheriff Candidate (5:01)

Yeah, well, it got worse. And not only did it get worse, the money's gone and not, not accounted for. They don't even know where it went.

Interviewer (5:08)

That's a lot of money. 10 billion, 25 billion. 25.

Sheriff Candidate (5:11)

25 billion that they can't account for.

Interviewer (5:13)

Holy.

Sheriff Candidate (5:14)

And the sad part about that is, I mean, you could ask me, I'll let you do it next, last year, or even you could say in 2023, tell me where you spent your money and I could go back in my records and tell you where every dime of my money went. But somehow they can account for $25 billion. We have to realize that California government has gotten so broken under a one party system, a one party rule, that there is no more accountability. And it's it. They, they truly do operate like monopoly money. It's not their money. It's not, it's not hurting them, it's not coming from them. They just want more of it. And if they need more of it, they just take more of it from taxpayers.

Interviewer (6:01)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (6:01)

And when you have no concept of saving money or trying to fix something that's broken financially, it just gets worse and worse. And that's what we're seeing. We're truly banking on that pendulum of not only economy, but of politics in California. We went so far in one direction that was so far broken. We know we've come back and we're on our way back down to normalcy. We are banking for me in this campaign. I'm banking on us hitting the bottom of that pendulum right about the time of the June election. And then we'll just carry it into November because California knows that we're broken and we need a different change of direction, a new path forward to make sure that we're productive again, to make sure that we basically have a California society again that can function 100%.

Interviewer (6:53)

I would love Cali to do well. You know, being neighbors, I want Cali to do well. You know, it helps me.

Sheriff Candidate (6:58)

Absolutely. And there's a. There's a very old saying about California that how goes California, so goes the rest of the country, or something like that. So goes California, so goes the rest of the country. And it's very true. The unfortunate part of that is decades and decades ago, it was the mass success that California had spread throughout the country. And then the horrific policies that politics has created over the last several decades has also crept across the country. And California has led that. And we need to, we need to stop it. We need to turn it around. We need to realize that you don't go down the same path when you know the path is broken. You've got to change direction. You got to do something different, course correction and make those changes so we can start being successful again, start being productive, give people a chance. And I think that that's where we are right now.

Interviewer (7:56)

Arnold might have to come out of retirement.

Sheriff Candidate (7:59)

Yeah, he came out a little bit in this last. We had a special election just now. It was a, it was a German gerrymandering election. And he did come out of retirement a little bit and tried to help that, but it was, it was a little bit too little, a little bit too late. There was the, the mass push to get that thing passed, that new. That it was a proposition on our Prop 47. Prop 50.

Interviewer (8:25)

Oh, 50.

Sheriff Candidate (8:26)

Prop 50, just this last November.

Interviewer (8:30)

What was that one about gerrymandering? Oh, okay.

Sheriff Candidate (8:32)

It was, it was. They basically gerrymandered the state. We were already gerrymandered to begin with, but now it's just absolute complete.

Interviewer (8:40)

Wow. So you can't get through.

Sheriff Candidate (8:41)

No. So we have, You've got roughly the 45% somewhere around. There are non liberal Democrats if you just go off of registration, but when you look at our politicians in Washington, there aren't any. And now they just. Well, there were a couple, there were a handful. Now they've just gerrymandered the election. So in this, this midterm election, they've rigged it where theoretically, on paper, there will not be a Republican representative in federal government anymore from California.

Interviewer (9:12)

That's not good.

Sheriff Candidate (9:13)

No, not at all. And it's, it's, it's so dishonest, unethical, immoral, anti Constitution, unconstitutional, anti American, but yet they did it anyway. So it's a, it's, it's a rough patch that we're going to have to fix. It'll take probably a minimum until 2030 before it fixes itself. So it'll be, it'll be something tough that we're going to have to deal with for a while. But it's California. We're resilient. We'll keep fighting through it.

Interviewer (9:44)

What I've realized in politics, the most qualified person usually doesn't win, unfortunately.

Sheriff Candidate (9:49)

No, you're exactly right. I, I, I, I've said this for years. We won't fix our political processes, our political environment, until we get rid of the party. When you get rid of the D or the R after the person's name that you're voting for, that will force people to start having to vote for integrity, honesty, character, leadership. Because those things don't come into play now.

Interviewer (10:16)

Right.

Sheriff Candidate (10:16)

It's just you either. If you're a Democrat, you only vote Democrat. If you're a Republican, you only vote Republican. And I say it all the time. If Charles Manson in California, if Charles Manson ran for governor as a Democrat and he was the only person on the ballot, he would win. Because people in California, if you're a Democrat, it doesn't matter who you're voting for.

Interviewer (10:35)

Yeah, it holds weight.

Sheriff Candidate (10:35)

Yeah. It's just, oh, Democrat. That's what I vote for. And so now we have Charles Manson as a governor, and we have to get past that. We have to start voting for character. You have to start voting for someone that you actually can believe has the leadership ability to get things done that betters California instead of some type of a political or even a personal agenda.

Interviewer (10:58)

Agreed. You're running as Republican, though, right?

Sheriff Candidate (11:00)

I am, I am. And, and the thing about that is, is lots of people told me, oh, you're going to have to change. It's California. Change to be a Democrat or change to be an Independent. I'm not changing for anybody. I every, it's, it's obvious who I am. I've been registered as a, as a Republican since I was 17, 17 and a half. And I'm not going to change just to try and be the typical politician to get somebody's vote. We have politicians in California that routinely change their political party just based on where they live and what they, if they want to try and run and win. That's not, that's, that's what I stand against. Yeah, it's, it's be authentic, be real, be legitimate, and let people know who exactly they're voting for. And I, I don't want them to vote for me because I'm a Republican. I don't want them to vote for me if I wasn't a Republican. I want them to vote for me because they know that I have California's interest at heart, not my own. I'm doing this for Californians, not for me. If it's personal, it's time for me to retire and enjoy retirement. I know that I can make a difference in California. I know that I'm doing it for everyone else, not for myself. And I think that really, in the end, the reason why I made that final decision to do this is I think people are ready for that.

Interviewer (12:18)

I mean, it's resonating. You're getting on some huge shows, you're getting a lot of views, things hitting off with these people.

Sheriff Candidate (12:22)

Yeah. You know, the last three polls, I've been the top candidate. I'm leading the polls in California in the governor's race, the last three of them that have come out and they're saying that that's the first time a Republican has led a statewide election in California since Ronald Reagan.

Interviewer (12:38)

Wow.

Sheriff Candidate (12:39)

In 1967. 68.

Interviewer (12:41)

That's impressive.

Sheriff Candidate (12:42)

So it's been a long time coming. I think people, for me, and as we travel, people that are, that don't particularly get involved with elections that haven't voted before, I mean, they're in their 40s and 50s and say that they've never voted before. And even some that are probably moderate Democrats have said, you know, I may not believe in everything that you talk about, but I know we need you as our governor and I'm going to support you. Or we need to make sure that we get you in there. Because people are just seeing that I am doing it for Californians. I'm not doing it for some special interest group. And I think that that's what's going to pull us through in the end for sure.

Interviewer (13:25)

What are the biggest issues you want to tackle first?

Sheriff Candidate (13:28)

The biggest thing that we have to attack? There can't be something number one, because for me, public safety is always going to be number one. We can't. Doesn't matter what the cost of living is in California if you're afraid to go outside of your house.

Interviewer (13:43)

That's why I left my car got broken into. It was a nightmare.

Sheriff Candidate (13:46)

So we have made over the last maybe like 12, 15 years in California, we have made crime not a crime. So with me as the governor with a 32 year public safety background, crime will be made a crime again. We have to hold criminals accountable. But at the same time, that can't be my only mission because the thing that's driving people away from in California is the overregulation of businesses, business taxes and the cost of living. So those things have to be attacked immediately. Lowering the cost of a house, lowering the cost of gas, groceries. Everything in California is more expensive. Energy is more expensive than any other place in the country. Wow. And we just have to fix that. We know that it is only like that because of excessive business regulations imposed by the state. So if we can do away with those, then now we're making it a business friendly environment that's bringing more businesses, more workers, more employees, higher wages into the economy. That stimulates it to begin with, how it should be stimulated. And then you're making the state work anyway, at the same time making people feel like they're safe living in their homes or going outside their homes. And now you make California a desirable place to live again.

Interviewer (15:00)

Yeah, yeah. We said off camera, average median price for a house is 950,000 right now.

Sheriff Candidate (15:05)

Yeah. And the, the average for the country is 400.

Interviewer (15:09)

So it's over double the average of the country.

Sheriff Candidate (15:11)

Yeah. And, and it's because of regulation. It's government regulation, it's government fees, it's government red tape, bureaucracy. And truly, if you really get down to it, it's a, it's an appeasement of special interests through the regulatory process that is preventing growth, that's preventing homes from being built. They, they want to claim that there's a homeless crisis in California. Well, build more homes then. If the government would allow builders to just build more homes, then we would have more homes and the price would automatically come down. But when they make it so expensive to build a home, the builder can no longer build. So nobody's building. Now. The, I mean, it's economics, basic economics. You have to have a product if you're going to sell it. If there's, if there's no demand, it's supply and demand type thing and the demand is so high there's no supply. So we've got to do something to change the supply. And if you get rid of the government red T tape, now you have builders that are willing and capable and able financially to build homes. And now that to sell that with a whole bunch of people wanting to buy it, you got to be competitive. So now the price comes down.

Interviewer (16:18)

It's not, it's not rocket science. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It blows my mind that they make it so difficult. I got friends that won't even touch California.

Sheriff Candidate (16:25)

Yeah.

Interviewer (16:25)

Because of this.

Sheriff Candidate (16:26)

Yeah. It's sad. That's why businesses are Leaving?

Interviewer (16:29)

Yeah. Elon Musk left.

Sheriff Candidate (16:31)

Yeah.

Interviewer (16:31)

He took tens of thousands of employees.

Sheriff Candidate (16:33)

He did. And, and millions and millions, if not billions of dollars, probably billions from the state and. And took it to a business friendly state taxes. I recently met with a manufacturer, an owner of a manufacturing business in California and he said that he missed the dinner meeting and he wouldn't have went anyway in the end. But the meeting was with that it was 20 business owners of manufacturing businesses in California and they met with the governor of Oklahoma for a dinner. And after that dinner, 18 of those businesses are now moving to Oklahoma.

Interviewer (17:10)

No way.

Sheriff Candidate (17:10)

Yeah.

Interviewer (17:11)

That's a lot of lost revenue for Cali.

Sheriff Candidate (17:13)

Huge. It's huge. And that should be happening where me as the governor of California is having dinner with people in other states and saying, come to California, we have a lot to offer you. But where we are now is every business. There's no business in the country that's saying, ah, let's move to California and be productive. It's not happening.

Interviewer (17:32)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (17:33)

Our businesses in California are leaving because of the, the environment that's been created there and we just have to change it.

Interviewer (17:39)

Yeah. It's also. Is it the highest state tax or second highest?

Sheriff Candidate (17:43)

No, we're the highest tax.

Interviewer (17:44)

Highest. Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (17:45)

Yeah.

Interviewer (17:45)

New York, second, I think.

Sheriff Candidate (17:46)

Yeah.

Interviewer (17:47)

Which wouldn't be an issue if the funds were being used properly, but.

Sheriff Candidate (17:50)

Right. I mean there's a lot of people that say I wouldn't mind paying my taxes if my tax money was being used as a benefit. And I believed in where we were spending our money. But when our tax money is just completely wasted on pet projects and disappearing and not knowing where it's going, being laundered, basically, now that we're seeing, I mean, the things that we're learning now of where our tax money is going through these non profits and NGOs.

Interviewer (18:17)

Oh, it's dis.

Sheriff Candidate (18:18)

And go back into the political cycle to get people reelected again. I mean that's a failure of government right there on its face. And we, I mean ethics, morals, everything about that is wrong. And we've just got to get to a place where we're using our money for what government was intended for. The number one role of government is public safety. Number two is infrastructure. My number three is education. I think we. It is, it is the government's role to make sure that we raise a generation that's going to be productive Americans, Californians, because it's California. And so education is number three. But then with California overall, it's that cost of living. It's what can you do to make sure that everyone's. That the money that people do have is being stretched further and being used for the best of them, not for someone else. And for a special interest. There's plenty of, plenty of people in California that are making major, major money off of taxpayers. And we're suffering for. We're paying the price of a few people getting mega rich off of taxpayer money.

Interviewer (19:30)

That's awful.

Sheriff Candidate (19:30)

Yeah.

Interviewer (19:31)

That's disgusting. And Newsom's just going to leave and run for president.

Sheriff Candidate (19:35)

Yeah.

Interviewer (19:35)

And he might win.

Sheriff Candidate (19:36)

It's looking like he's not going to win.

Interviewer (19:37)

I hope he doesn't.

Sheriff Candidate (19:38)

He's not going to win. There are. There are too many people in California that have been harmed that will never allow him to do the same thing to the country. There are far too many skeletons in his closet. There are far too many bad decisions. I mean, just as his time. We don't even have to go back to him being in San Francisco just from the time of being governor, lieutenant governor is bad enough for eight years, but just the eight years of him being the governor, absolute disaster for California. And how anyone in the country would say, oh, yeah, bring that on. I want that for the rest of us in the country, it's not going to happen. What we are seeing now is he's trying to remake himself. He's trying to make the rest of the country believe that he is something that he's not, because those of us in California know that it's just a complete thing.

Interviewer (20:32)

Yeah. He started his own show. He's going on podcasts, he's rebranding for sure.

Sheriff Candidate (20:36)

Big time. Big time. But you can't hide from the truth and you can't hide from your past.

Interviewer (20:40)

Man, he's got quite the past.

Sheriff Candidate (20:42)

He does. And the beauty about technology now is it's at the. It's at your fingertips, like I do is pick up your phone and you can find the truth about the things that he says.

Interviewer (20:51)

Truth always comes out.

Sheriff Candidate (20:53)

Yeah.

Interviewer (20:53)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (20:53)

You know, with California, that's what we're seeing now is everything that they talk about in politics in California has nothing to do with California. They don't want to talk about the cost of living. They don't want to talk about the cost of gas. They don't want to talk about taxes, about regulation, about special interests and activism and all those things. So instead, we talk about, we hate Trump, we hate immigration, we hate the federal government, all of these things that have nothing to do with the status of California.

Interviewer (21:20)

Right.

Sheriff Candidate (21:21)

But yet that's where the media cycle is and the push from politicians is, let's fight President Trump instead of letting everyone be aware that California's up for election again and we've failed you.

Interviewer (21:35)

Right. They're distracting, right? Yeah, yeah. With the ICE raids, with the National Guard, whatever it is. Yeah, it's all a distraction.

Sheriff Candidate (21:42)

100% a distraction. So. Especially in California. So we don't talk about the failures of California.

Interviewer (21:49)

Yeah, but people are waking up, though, right over there.

Sheriff Candidate (21:51)

They are. And I think that's why the polls are showing me in the lead.

Interviewer (21:54)

Well, even with Trump's term, I think it was the most voted on the right in a while. Right In Cali.

Sheriff Candidate (21:59)

Numerous. I can't remember the number 12 counties changed to red in this last election. The highest that a Republican has received in California for many, many, many years.

Interviewer (22:12)

And you guys let illegals vote, too, unfortunately. Yeah. So that might.

Sheriff Candidate (22:17)

And the good part about that is now that's all being exposed. So we all know that that can't happen. That's illegal. I mean, you have to be a citizen to vote. Why would you want. Why would you allow. Now we'll pick New York. Why would you allow people from New York to vote in California elections? You wouldn't. Why would you allow someone from El Salvador, any other country, China, to vote in American elections? You wouldn't. And the fact that we have been allowing that and denying it and trying to hide it, but now it's being exposed. People are just. It's like, okay, enough is enough. We need legitimacy, we need honesty, we need integrity. And I think that's where we're. That's. That's what this election is going to be about.

Interviewer (23:08)

Yeah, hats off to you, man, because you probably could have retired in a few years, rode off into the sunset.

Sheriff Candidate (23:13)

I could. I could. And it's actually, it was a. It. I will admit that there was a brief period of time when, selfishly, I said I wasn't going to do it. My wife and I had talked about it for over a year. We prayed about it, talked about it with the kids, made sure it was good with. They were good with it. We explored the environment of California, whether it was going to be possible. And in the end, I became a little selfish and I said, I'm not going to do it because I was looking at retirement. It's like, I don't have to do this. I can be like everyone else and leave California, have a better life, have more money. And in the end, it was, no, I'm not going to quit. I'm going to fight. I'm going to make a difference for everyone else in California. And that's why I chose respect.

Interviewer (24:03)

Was it a specific moment that caused you to or just accumulation of.

Sheriff Candidate (24:07)

Excuse me. I think especially in interviews, I always say I'm never afraid of any question. But the problem with asking me as a question is I answer it. And I would never not be honest. And the reality of this decision is I had said no to my wife and I told people, my inner circle, that I was not going to do it, decided against it. And my wife and I were very fortunate and able to go to the presidential inauguration. And. And we were sitting there, it was so cold and everything got canceled and pushed inside.

Interviewer (24:47)

Oh, yeah, it rained, right?

Sheriff Candidate (24:48)

Yeah. And it was just bitter cold outside. And so we were sitting in the hotel watching. They had big screens all over the place. And we were watching the speech, watching his inaugural speech. And it was his speech talking about what he's going to do for America. And as he's talking and my brain thinking, this guy has everything that anyone could ever want.

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Sheriff Candidate (26:26)

Great family. More money than he can ever than any of his offspring will ever spend in their lifetimes. Financially, has it made. There's nothing that he could want and he is choosing to go through all of the crap that he is going through to make Americans lives better. And as he was talking through this and I'm going over in my own head what I want to do with retiring and I'M not saying I'm Trump, but on a very, very much lesser scale, I don't have to do this. My life is good. I'm at the end of my life, work wise. I can retire and we can be comfortable, but I know I can make a difference for a lot of people in California, and that's what made me change. And when he was done with his speech, I leaned over to my wife and I said, I'm gonna do this. And she's like, oh, no, what happened? But she knew. She knows why I'm doing this in the first place. We've had a great marriage, a great life, and it's been 32 years of me being a cop, of giving up of myself for other people. It's just nothing but public service and me trying to make other people's lives better. And sometimes it's at the sacrifice of my own family or at the detriment of my safety. And I think that's just my makeup. And so doing this, knowing that, I think she knew deep down we were set for retirement, enjoy life, and all that stuff. And then that, oh, no, here we go again. Yeah. But she knows why, and she knows what's in my heart, and she knows the real reasons why I'm doing it. And she's behind me.

Interviewer (28:18)

I love that.

Sheriff Candidate (28:19)

Yeah.

Interviewer (28:19)

A good woman by your side is game changer. It is. I just got married last month.

Sheriff Candidate (28:23)

Oh, very nice. Yeah, very nice.

Interviewer (28:26)

Change my life having her with me. I think without her, man, it'd be rough.

Sheriff Candidate (28:30)

You have to have that not only a person to ground you, but you have to have that, that confidant, that best friend, that person that whether it's good or bad, they take it all.

Interviewer (28:43)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (28:44)

And they can help you through the good and the bad. And it's. It's rare that you find that person, but Everybody needs that 100%.

Interviewer (28:51)

Especially with you being a cop for 32 years. You've seen some stuff, You've been very stressed, you know.

Sheriff Candidate (28:56)

Yeah.

Interviewer (28:56)

I can't imagine what you've been through as a cop in Cali.

Sheriff Candidate (28:58)

There's a lot. It's. It's a. You're seeing my, My. Every day is everyone else's worst day. Right. I mean, you don't call 911 because you're happy.

Interviewer (29:10)

There's no good news.

Sheriff Candidate (29:11)

No. And so everything is an emergency. So even from the day I started in this job, everything is someone else's emergency that I'm expected to solve and to help them through their emergency. And as you as you progress through your career, especially if you're going to be successful and promote and then even get to the point where now I'm the sheriff elected twice into that position. It's just more and more responsibility of solving more and more of other people's problems. And I think it's 32 years of on the job training has pretty much set me up to be the best person in this election to fix California because everything is an emergency. We're in a crisis in every aspect in California and it's something that I just don't even think about anymore. Oh, it's a problem, go fix it. Give me the issues, tell me what I need to know. And now let's fix it. And that's just how I really attack anything. And it's just going to be at a bigger scale.

Interviewer (30:13)

Yeah, I love that. You know, if I'm voting for someone, I want someone that's been there, done that, dealt with pressure. That's why when I saw him, Donnie went, I'm like, what is this guy dealt with? Yeah, you know what I mean? I know it's just the mayor, but he doesn't know how to run a budget. He doesn't know how to deal with high pressure situations.

Sheriff Candidate (30:28)

I think that I watched that campaign and unfortunately for campaigns with money and with, with media, especially a media that's biased in favor of you or against you, makes a huge difference. But the dishonesty, the, the statements that were made that are just so, I mean, maybe dishonest isn't the word. It's just disingenuous. It's like he can't do that or there's no way he can make that happen. He's just throwing that out there to, to play with people's emotions. We' to emotional in our decision making instead of tactical or of logical.

Interviewer (31:13)

Agreed.

Sheriff Candidate (31:13)

And we've lost that ability and gone to just all emotions. And when you play on emotions, I think that's what happened in New York and I think they're going to regret it. I think they're going to, in the, the next four years are going to be very telling there about public safety, especially because he's, he's not pro cop, he's not pro public safety and you know, taxing more people, you know that we have, we were, we were just in Florida and we were talking with a person who has, his, their best friend was a real estate agent in Florida and they said that the weeks leading up to that election, the amount of New York businesses and people that were in The Florida real estate market. There's no more homes available in Florida because everyone's moving from New York.

Interviewer (32:06)

Yeah. I don't blame.

Sheriff Candidate (32:06)

And it's. I think it's going to be very unfortunate because that's one of Denise and I's favorite cities.

Interviewer (32:13)

It's a great city.

Sheriff Candidate (32:14)

It's an amazing city. And it's unfortunately a place now where we don't want to go or we won't go.

Interviewer (32:22)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (32:23)

And it's. I feel bad for the people who are not able to leave there about what they're going to go through in the next couple of months or in the next couple of years. And really that whole California again, I mean, you look at San Francisco, San Francisco arguably is one of the most amazing cities in the world, or at.

Interviewer (32:46)

One point used to be. Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (32:47)

Yeah. And bad politics and policy completely destroyed it. I mean, it's a. It looks like a third world country now. Downtown businesses boarded up businesses all leaving residents that leave their windows down and nothing in their cars. Because if your windows are up, somebody's going to break into it and see what you have in there.

Interviewer (33:07)

Yeah. If you got a backpack in your backseat, it's getting dirty, it's going to be gone.

Sheriff Candidate (33:10)

And it's. That's a fact of life for them. And it's, it's something that, that they've. They've become accustomed to that is going to be now worse for New York. And it's not going to be fun to watch.

Interviewer (33:25)

Not at all. When you're living in a fearful state like that, it affects your lifespan, actually, for sure. Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (33:31)

Stress and anxiety. Stress and anxiety on your system takes years and years off your life. And if you are forced to live in that situation, then we have to realize that some people are. Some people can't afford to move or they can't leave their job, or there's just no way they can get out of where they. The situation that they find themselves in. They don't have the opportunity to go somewhere else. It's unfortunate for them that they're stuck there and they don't have a government that's actually working to make their lives easier or better.

Interviewer (34:05)

A lot of people just don't trust the government these days. You know what I mean?

Sheriff Candidate (34:08)

Rightfully so. I mean, look what we're learning about our government. I mean, what's been happening and the money laundering, the unethicalness, the. And it's both parties, and we're finding it's not. You can't just say it's Democrats if you. Depending on what news you watch, they talk about the unethical Republicans, they talk about the unethical Democrats. We've just gotten to a point where it's our own fault. One of my favorite quotes from history, from one of our founding fathers is Thomas Jefferson, and he said that the government that you elect is the government that you deserve. And that's where we find ourselves right now. I mean, we deserve where we are because we elected those people into that position that are making these rules and laws and regulations that are negatively affecting us. So it's almost like we did it to ourselves and we need to wisen up. We need to wake up and start putting better people into these positions.

Interviewer (35:08)

Yeah. Part of me wonders because money's such an important role these days in politics, like, if we actually even have a say in that, if that makes sense. Because guys just get so much funding.

Sheriff Candidate (35:17)

You're. You're right. And what we've learned, you know, in the last year with the. The government, taxpayer money, how we're learning that it's being laundered through NGOs and nonprofits and these different entities back into the political system. You give somebody $5 million and you get 1 million of it back into your political campaign, that keeps you in power, that keeps those contracts or keeps that money flowing in that, in that environment. I mean, that's. It just. It blows me away. Yeah, I. This is a little. Little corny, but, you know, Sacramento, I say all the time, Sacramento is the. Is the worst city in our state. We, I mean, we look at San Francisco or Los Angeles and you see those pictures on the, on the news of, of that environment. But the most corrupt city in our state is Sacramento.

Interviewer (36:07)

Really.

Sheriff Candidate (36:07)

And who better to send into Sacramento than the guy with the badge, the handcuffs and the gun and start taking care of business and making sure that people are held accountable for the bad things that they're doing to us in our state.

Interviewer (36:22)

What's going on over there in Sacramento, I haven't heard about this.

Sheriff Candidate (36:25)

And it's just the corruption, government corruption. It's the billions and billions and billions of money that's being laundered back into the system. It's disappearing where people are getting rich, special interests are winning out over regular Californians. It's just. Sacramento is an absolute corrupt city. Wow. And it. Our Capitol building is absolutely beautiful. But if you go there, you can't go there at night. I mean, I go there and I carry a gun, so it's okay for me. I can walk down the street at night. But I don't want to. Like, if I'm with my wife or something and we're walking to dinner, we'll just take an Uber.

Interviewer (37:01)

Because you're a sheriff saying this.

Sheriff Candidate (37:03)

Oh, absolutely. You can't just walk down the street. There was in the middle of the day, we were in Sacramento for a political event. We ate lunch at our favorite barbecue place there. We're walking back to our hotel and it's noon. It's between noon and 1 o'. Clock. And in the middle of an intersection is just some naked dude just screaming and yelling at people. And there were women walking and he's approaching them. And now, I mean, I can't not do something. So now I've got to put myself in the middle, in between him and these girls trying to walk down the street. There's no law enforcement around, but the amount of psychotic homeless people that are in downtown Sacramento, it's crazy. I mean, no pun intended, but it shouldn't be like that. And you have a beautiful downtown city next to our capital where when you walk down the streets, the buildings are boarded up, the windows are boarded up. They're old businesses that have gone because they can't function there anymore. The only thing going on in Sacramento currently is during business hours of government, because afterward everything is shut down. I mean, there's a couple of restaurants, but there's no stores. There's nothing.

Interviewer (38:24)

It's awful.

Sheriff Candidate (38:25)

It's horrible for the representation of our beautiful state. And it's almost like, well, if this is your capital city right around your Capitol, if that's what you think of California, what's the rest of the state? Why would you even be concerned about the rest of the state? That's how I look at it. There's no pride in our Capitol building. There's no pride in taking care of the grass around the Capitol steps. There's tents on the sidewalk from homeless psychotic people in the block surrounding the Capitol.

Interviewer (39:05)

Wow.

Sheriff Candidate (39:05)

And nothing's done. They don't do anything about it. It's like, well, there's zero respect for the actual Capitol building. There can't be any respect for the rest of the state either.

Interviewer (39:15)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (39:15)

And. And as silly as that sounds.

Interviewer (39:20)

I'll.

Sheriff Candidate (39:20)

Make sure that the downtown Sacramento area is. Is pristine and it is taken care of. And we will care about our building. We will care about our government entity that is supposed to care about the rest of the state. If you can't take care of yourself, you can't take care of other people.

Interviewer (39:35)

Yep.

Sheriff Candidate (39:35)

And that pride Kind of like a pride in ownership type of a thing. That has to mean something.

Interviewer (39:41)

I went to San Diego last Christmas. I'm not sure if you spend a lot of time out there, but I got one of the nicest hotels. It was like almost a thousand a night, five star hotel. And I couldn't even walk the street that the hotel was on. Yeah, there was that many homeless people on, on some type of drug. I don't know what they were on, but it didn't feel safe, man.

Sheriff Candidate (39:58)

It's not safe, especially after dark. And the bad thing, we love San Diego. And we're only, we're an hour and a half away from San Diego there, you know, the red light district down there is, is, it's amazing, the restaurants and everything else. But my wife and I, the last time we were in San Diego, same thing it was, it was for a flight. We were catching an early morning flight. But we spend a nice hotel, we'll walk just downtown, we, we'll go to a nice restaurant. And you're walking by people that are passed out with needles in their arms. The smell. Disgusting. Yes. I mean, we couldn't enjoy our dinner because it was kind of like an outdoor environment. The windows are open, it's got a patio. And inside the restaurant, the odor, urine. The smell of urine was so strong, we couldn't even enjoy our dinner. And we need to start taking pride in California. And then it goes more toward the homeless issue of these people that are living on the streets. There is absolutely zero compassion from our government officials that are allowing this to happen. Where is the compassion for other humans to allow them to rot in their own skin, die on the street, live on the sidewalk? Where is the human compassion? It blows me away when someone in my line of work, I know what drugs do to people. I know what drugs do to your brain. I know what drugs do to your body. And when you're under the influence of drugs, you cannot, you're incapable of making a rational decision. The state of where we are, I mean, we're free. We're America. There's freedoms and everything else. In order for us to help someone that is living on the streets, they have to want help. They have to accept the help. And if you ask a crazy person on the street that's homeless, hey, man, can I help you? Can I get you a job? Can I help you? Can I get you a place to stay? They look at you like you're crazy. I mean, the names that they're going to start calling you, it's like, you get away from. There's nothing wrong with them. They think that they're okay. And it's the drugs, it's the psychosis, it's the alcohol, it's the mental illness. It's all of those things wrapped in together that's causing this issue. And we are allowing it to happen, and we're paying for it. Californians, our taxpayer money is paying for these people to be there. We are enabling this type of behavior, and we're making the homeless situation worse. It's exponentially worse. Every single year. We're spending more and more and more, and there's more and more and more every single year.

Interviewer (42:38)

Yeah. It's almost like money doesn't fix it. Right.

Sheriff Candidate (42:40)

It's a. Well, money makes it worse. Money is. Is. We've created an industrial complex. It is now the homeless industrial complex, where taxpayer money is going to nonprofits and NGOs to buy up buildings to make people rich. Administrator 99 of their cost is administrative.

Interviewer (42:55)

Wow.

Sheriff Candidate (42:55)

And then they help one person per year, and then they claim a success because they helped a person. Oh, my God. And they got millions and millions of dollars for it. There are some that have helped up to zero. They've. They haven't treated or helped anyone, but they're getting millions of dollars a year. They're living the life, but the problem's getting worse and worse and worse, and it's because we've created that problem. So all of those people that are making all of that money, including the politicians who are getting that money in return on the back end for their campaigns, donations. If you fix the situation, if you eliminate the homeless, all of that money's gone.

Interviewer (43:37)

So they don't even want it gone, though.

Sheriff Candidate (43:38)

They don't want it gone.

Interviewer (43:39)

Wow. So they're going to put money over human life, basically.

Sheriff Candidate (43:42)

Absolutely. That's California politics. California politics. Our special interest. And money is more important than Californians.

Interviewer (43:50)

That's just insane to me. Like, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

Sheriff Candidate (43:54)

It's a. I think it's. It's the type of person that you are. You're not in. If you're not in state government, you would be doing a better job because you wouldn't be able to sleep at night. We're electing people that can do this on a daily basis, and they sleep fine. They have no moral, ethical compass that gives them that guilty feeling of, man, I shouldn't be doing this. I mean, you look at our current governor. He is pure evil.

Interviewer (44:19)

I remember when he cleared out San Fran to meet the president of China.

Sheriff Candidate (44:22)

Oh, yeah. Two days. Took him two days. That's it. He is pure evil. In the amount of Californians that he has sacrificed, that he has made millions, if tens of millions of people's lives miserable for his own political benefit. That's evil.

Interviewer (44:44)

I agree.

Sheriff Candidate (44:45)

That's evil. And so you have. He sleeps fine at night because he's evil. You wouldn't be able to do it. I couldn't do it.

Interviewer (44:54)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (44:54)

There's no way. I couldn't do it. It's not going to happen. My integrity. So my biggest fear in life, and I don't even know if it's a fear in life. I mean, you want to do the right thing, you want to be moral, you want to be ethical and all of those things. But deep down, for me, I can never do something that would embarrass my parents. I would never want to do something that would embarrass my parents. And now it's. I can never do something that would not only embarrass, but be hypocritical to my kids. So I do things because it's morally correct and it's the right thing to do and all of that. But that moral compass is I can't not do it because I couldn't sleep at night. And we. Unfortunately, that's a rarity, if at all.

Interviewer (45:45)

In California in politics. Right?

Sheriff Candidate (45:47)

Yeah.

Interviewer (45:47)

That's so crazy to me. Do you know who you're running against yet?

Sheriff Candidate (45:52)

There's far too many people. I think there's 80.

Interviewer (45:54)

80.

Sheriff Candidate (45:55)

I think there's like 80 people that have. That have said that they're running for governor. Wow. All of those don't mean anything. There's. There's obviously, there's. There's prominent people that are running there. I think there's probably somewhere close to 10 very prominent Democrats.

Interviewer (46:09)

Okay.

Sheriff Candidate (46:11)

There's. There's really. On the Republican side, there's only two that have a remote chance at all. It's either myself, which I'm the one leading the polls, and then the other Republican is Steve Hilton. I like Steve. Steve and I get along great. We see each other often.

Interviewer (46:27)

Did he start the Hilton hotels?

Sheriff Candidate (46:29)

No. No relation. No relation. He's relatively new to our country. He was recently a citizen.

Interviewer (46:35)

Wait, he's from England?

Sheriff Candidate (46:37)

He's from England. And so I like him. I like everything that he's saying, but he's basically just repeating the same things I'm saying.

Interviewer (46:46)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (46:46)

And as far as. As a past and a history and whether or not on the Republican side, someone capable of winning in California, I really am the only one that has a, has that chance. I'm the only current elected official. I'm the only person on the Republican side that's even won an election before. So it's, you know, a history, a resume, those types of things. Hands down, I'm going to be the choice in California. But there's there's at least a, probably a dozen choices on the Democrat side.

Interviewer (47:19)

And I'm sure heavily funded some of them.

Sheriff Candidate (47:23)

I think they probably, they all have decent funding right now. The way the Democrat machine works is as we get closer to the election, the Democrat machine will get behind one or maybe two.

Interviewer (47:35)

Yeah.

Sheriff Candidate (47:36)

Consolidate and put a lot of their money toward that candidate. And we don't, I don't think we know yet who that's going to be. I don't think they know who it's going to be.

Interviewer (47:46)

Yeah, I hope they don't just outspend you, honestly.

Sheriff Candidate (47:49)

I hope we know they're going to outspend us. But we, we don't think it's going to matter, really. We don't think it's going to matter. I think we're going to have plenty of money to get our own message out there. And the, the, the thing about my campaign is everything that, everything that I've been elected to the office of sheriff, there's two and a half million people in our county, so we're one of the largest counties in California, and I'm the fourth largest sheriff's department in the country.

Interviewer (48:22)

Wow.

Sheriff Candidate (48:22)

So we're big. When it comes down to this election, I think people are going to be able to look and say, that's who we want. That's the guy that's been doing it for longer. We can trust him. We can believe what he's talking about. He's not the typical politician. Even though I've been elected to office, I'm not your typical politician. I'm not going to say something. I mean, not that you would, but in any person asking me a question, you're going to get the truth from me. I'm not going to think, oh, my gosh, what's the crowd? What should I say to make this person happy? That's the typical politician. And where we know they're all dishonest. And you don't get that from me. And it's, I think that's my appeal. That's why people are attracted to my campaign a little bit. And we're just very confident that the money that we're going to need, we're going to have and we're going to be able to get that message out. Everything bad about my life if there isn't anything but I've already been through two major, major elections. There's nothing new that you can throw out there against me. And people see that. People know that. Where everyone that I'm running against has got some major skeletons, some major issues, some major flip flops. Major, you know, where do you stand? You've changed your. You can't change your beliefs. Why do you keep changing your mind and everything? So we're in a good environment for us to finally win in California.

Interviewer (49:52)

Can't wait, man. Yeah, you got a 32 year track record too. You got results out there in the public for sure.

Sheriff Candidate (49:57)

For sure. And it's resonating and I'm very confident that that's going to work. We have the. There are 58 sheriffs in the state and they're all supporting me.

Interviewer (50:07)

Wow, that's huge. All of them.

Sheriff Candidate (50:10)

It's very huge.

Interviewer (50:11)

You got all the police officers supporting you.

Sheriff Candidate (50:12)

Yes. And we're working on fire for the most part. Fire departments are all supporting us also. They're still going through their official endorsement committees and processes and everything else. But public safety is going to be number one in California. We all want to be safe, whether it's from criminals or from natural disasters where the fire departments come in. And so that massive effort in this campaign from a ground crew of police and fire, that's roughly about 300,000 people total in California. That's a pretty good ground game of trying to spread the message of getting something better in California and rallying behind one person. Person.

Interviewer (50:53)

We got to get James o' Keefe at your election votes. Make sure they don't rig that.

Sheriff Candidate (50:57)

Yeah, we have to. We. I think we're all beginning to understand that that election, the election process has been taken advantage of and there's a lot of fraud going on. Mail in ballots have got to go.

Interviewer (51:09)

They got to go. Do they still have those in Cali?

Sheriff Candidate (51:11)

They do.

Interviewer (51:12)

Oh, no.

Sheriff Candidate (51:13)

It's a, it's a statewide mailing ballot and we're going to have to combat that this time by beating them at their own game. We won't be able to fix it until I win. And then when I win, that will be one of the first things that goes. You can't have a secure election when you don't even know who's voting.

Interviewer (51:30)

Yep.

Sheriff Candidate (51:31)

And it's got to be an in person vote, hopefully on this next ballot, we're going to have a proposition on the ballot for ID to vote. So it'll be voter id. You have to provide ID to be able to vote, which should be common sense mandatory. And then we'll get rid of the mail in ballots so you have to vote in person, too. And then you really work toward a more secure, fair, true election.

Interviewer (51:56)

Well, Sheriff, thanks so much for your time. This was a really fun episode, man. I really hope you win.

Sheriff Candidate (52:00)

Thank you. I appreciate it. It looks like we're going that direction. And really, as much as I'm doing it for California, I'm doing it for the rest of the country, particularly our neighbors and all of you here in Nevada, because I don't. I don't want it spilling over into Nevada anymore.

Interviewer (52:17)

We already got a lot of people leaving, Kylie coming here.

Sheriff Candidate (52:20)

We don't want them to leave. And. And I. I'm hoping that I even steal a few of the people that you do have here that. That left from California for. Not because they wanted to, but because the politics really forced them out. Yeah, we're hoping to bring those back, too.

Interviewer (52:33)

Awesome, man. Well, we'll link your stuff in the video. Thanks for coming on, man.

Sheriff Candidate (52:36)

Absolutely. Appreciate it.

Interviewer (52:37)

Check them out, guys. And if you're in Cali, vote for him in June. Moon. See you next time. Peace.

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