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Skinnyfromthe9: From Getting Shot to Signing with LA Reid: The Skinnyfromthe9 Story | DSH #1493
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And, like, at the time, I'm not knowing I'm shot. I just know I'm trying to get up and I can't, like. And it's crazy, bro, because, like, I used to think, like, you see people, like, in wheelchairs and shit like that. Like, why can't you just walk? Just get up and walk. You really can't. Like, once you hurt a bone or like, something like that, like, no matter how hard you're trying to, like, get up, you just can't.
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B
All right, guys. Skinny from the nine here, someone. We. We grew up real, really close with each other, so. Yeah, it's crazy to see, like, this full circle moment, right?
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A
Yeah, it's crazy. Bridgewater, Somerville, nuts.
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B
A lot of people can't relate to that.
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A
I know. It's crazy. Even when I was coming over here telling everybody, like, yo, we actually, like, basically went to high school together.
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B
Yeah, we got made fun of growing up.
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A
Well, you know, back then, I feel like, you know, today, in today's age, I feel like everybody's trying to do the social media thing, you know, like, everybody's trying to be a podcaster or a rapper or go viral on TikTok and shit like that. But like, back then, like, coming from. We're from, like, there's those little towns. Like, that shit was, like, frowned upon. Like, like, go to college, get a degree. Like, stay in school, get a job.
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B
Yeah, you were like, a loser if you went to community college, right?
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A
Or if you just did anything in the performing arts, just trying to rap or make music or anything. Anything out of the box is just.
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B
Like, you know, I want to give you your flowers, though, because you were the first to come out and make it in the social media space from basically Somerset County.
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A
I appreciate that. I feel like some people, like, I don't know, forget that because, you know, just the Internet and shit. But, like, I appreciate you even, you know, just giving my flowers and just, you know, acknowledging that.
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B
No, 100%. I didn't even know that was possible. You know what I mean? You were the first to, like, come out.
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A
I made a lot of people a believer. Like, I feel like just back home, like, I just made people like, yo, this is reality. Like, look at him. Like, look at Skinny. Like, this could work.
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B
Yeah, dude. I honestly had no idea that was possible. I was going the college route and I was depressed as.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I'm so glad I do this now, honestly.
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A
Yeah, you did the. You were selling the jerseys.
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B
Yeah, I was doing jerseys.
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A
Do that.
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B
No, that. That kind of died.
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A
I mean, that blew up, though.
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B
It blew up our top year. Well, it's like.
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A
It was like the first.
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B
Dude, Honestly, I think PNB Rock was, like, one of the first, even before me.
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A
Because I remember you said, pull up to my house.
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B
Yeah, it was around the same time I pulled up.
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A
Yeah, pulled up. And I pulled up to my mom's.
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B
My mom's house.
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A
Back then, I was getting like 50,000 likes, like 200,000 story views.
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B
Bro, you were popping. Yeah, it was nuts.
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A
I posted that shit, and I felt like that shit just went crazy after that.
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B
No, I appreciate you doing that because I was just starting out at the time, and you actually supported me.
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A
Yeah, I was always down to help people from, like, just back home, like, anything, you know, anything. I just always wanted people to succeed, you know, And I feel like just coming. Where we from, like, it's not like Miami, like, California. Like, it's Central Jersey. Like, nobody's doing nothing. Like, you know, it's very, like, just. What's that word? It's not city. Like, it's. It's. What's the opposite of city? Suburb, suburb, real suburb. So nobody's really doing nothing. Everybody's just. Everyone has their life planned out.
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B
100. What do you think gave you the creative spark when you were living out there?
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A
I just. For the people, like, a lot of people don't know, like, my childhood wasn't the best. You know, I didn't move to Somerville till I was probably, like, 13. And, like, I feel like some people forget that. People think that I grew up in Somerville my whole entire life because I just never really, like, talked about my past life. But, you know, I had a mom with seven. My mom, single mom, seven kids. You know, my dad went to prison, my stepdad went to prison. You know, just a single mom, we're getting evicted everywhere we go, shit like that. It wasn't until I turned, like, 13 where my dad got out of prison and my dad was ready to be a father, and my dad took me and my brother Josh in at that point, that's when it was like I had stability and, like, just. I always wanted to make music. Like, I just. I just wanted to make music. I wanted to tell my story. And, like, I just felt like I was destined for something more. Like I was destined for greatness. So I just. It was just always. It was. It was either that it was like music or nothing, you know?
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B
Yeah.
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A
So that my. My life was my inspiration, you know, and then. And then, you know, like, people like, fetty. Wap blowing up. Got to give Fetty his flowers for being from Jersey. I was like, probably like a senior in high school when he blew up. And I was just watching that and like, that even made it more like, I'm like, yo, this shit could really happen. You know, Like, Fetty just blew up. Like, he's going crazy. And it just really made me want to take it even more serious. Like, I started going to real studios and started, like just working at. I got like three jobs. I was working at Wendy's, working at shoprite, working everywhere. Just saving every single paycheck. I had to just pay for, like fucking studio time, pay for music videos, paid to buy these beats and just shit like that. And, you know, it finally like worked out, you know.
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B
Yeah. How many years in would you say you got some traction?
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A
It wasn't like, I feel like, like I was, you know, I was dropping music my whole entire life, you know, like, even like just being a freshman, even middle school, like going to Somerville Middle School. I was dropping music all the time. But, like, it wasn't good, but it. I didn't quit. I just kept trying to get better at my craft, get better at my craft, get better at my craft. And then it finally worked out, you know, and probably like, you know, probably after high school is where you could say, like, I started really taking it serious because, like, it was like that, that this is like, it's fourth and goal. Like, something's got to happen. Like, I'm at a high school. I'm not trying to be a bum. I'm not trying to, you know, so that would like. I probably graduated when? I don't know if I graduated the same year. What time?
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B
What year I graduated? 15.
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A
Yeah, I probably graduated like 2015 and then that was time. I didn't blow up till 2018. Well, I blew up the ending of 2017, like around Thanksgiving. 2017. So what? Two years. 15, 16, 17. Yeah. And then, yeah, everything just worked out.
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B
I remember you came to my mom's house after signing that million dollar deal, bro. Crazy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Million dollar deal with LA Reid.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was. That was epic. That was epic.
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B
Did you get the money all at once? Like, how did that work?
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A
So I ended up getting, like, portions, you know, I ended up getting like, probably like $500,000 upfront when I signed. I think I got like another like 250 after we had dropped the first single, and then I think another 250 when I dropped my first project.
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B
Damn, that's nuts. Was that single Love Blast or was that the single?
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A
No. See I kind of regret signing to LA Reid because I just feel like they had no structure, you know. And like I kind of got fucked over when I signed my deal. Cause like at the time like I never really spoke about this. When Love Blast dropped and like it was going super, super viral like it was like number 10 on like the Soundcloud charts of like new and upcoming artists. That's what really like put me on like the spotlight for like labels because that's what they check, you know. Like is your music trending without, without a label?
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B
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A
Are you able to like, are people listening to you? So like I got blessed when I got on the charts of the SoundCloud so when that happened everybody hit me up. So labels and like managers and shit like that. And like long story short, I ended up signing like a like a little like management deal to like this guy, his name's J Mogul and it kind of like I didn't, I lost my exclusive, exclusive right to pick who I wanted to be signed to.
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B
Damn.
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A
So as I'm take. But at the time I didn't know that. So at the time like Interscope is hitting me up like John Janick, Joey IE300, Todd Moskowitz inner I said Interscope, Atlantic, so many people hitting me up and I'm taking all these meetings and like that they're flying me and my family out first class, putting us like in crazy hotels like paying for all of our food and like that. And I ended up getting a meeting with LA Reid. He's like yo, I'll give you a million dollars if you sign to me. And like I took the meeting and you know we, we, we negotiated while we were there and like at the end of the meeting I was just like I'll let you know what I want to do. So like as we're leaving the meeting and shit like that, I'm talking to the manager Jay mogul, and he's like, yo, we're gonna go with LA Reid. And at the time, I wanted to go with Atlantic because I just felt like they had a better structure at the time. And, like, you know, they were popping, you know, they kind of had the formula back then. It was like, get a Lyrical Lemonade video, like, do a no Jumper interview. And then like, we put you on tour with, like, a big artist, and then from then on, like, you're kind of set. It's kind of like. It's kind of autopilot after that. So I didn't get. I didn't. I lost my exclusive. So I'm telling them, like, yo, I don't want to. I don't want to go LA Reid. I kind of want to go to Atlantic. Long story short, we kind of, like, you know, bickered back and forth, and he was just like, yo, like, you lost your exclusive right to even pick who you want to be signed to, to be honest. But, like, so it's not really even a discussion, you know, like, we're going with La Reid. And he wanted to go with La Reid because he was getting 15% out of whatever deal I was going to take. So I forgot how much Atlantic was offering me. Maybe they were offering me, like, 300k. So what's 15% out of 300k versus 15% out of a million? So he had his best interest. He didn't have my best interest because anybody would have known that Atlantic was definitely, like, the route to go.
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B
Damn. So you think you would have had a totally different career if you signed with Atlantic?
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A
Absolutely. I would have got the Lyrical Lemonade video. I would have got. I mean, I did the no Jumper interview, but, like, a few of those. Yeah, I would have got just better. Just better. Like, I don't know, like, opportunities, you know?
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B
Yeah.
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A
So.
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B
Damn. That's nuts. Yeah. I hear a lot of horror stories in the music industry with people signing the wrong deals.
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A
I'm one of the ones that got into some shit like that.
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B
Were you able to get out of that?
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A
Yeah, I ended up getting out of it, but it wasn't for, like, years, you know, like, it was like, a lot of work. And then, like, by the time, like, I wasn't dropping. I wasn't allowed to drop music for a long time. So, you know, my music kind of, like, faded away. Fans forgot about me, people forgot about me. That's just. That's just what it is.
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B
You know, People forget quick in the music industry.
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A
Right, exactly. Because there's always somebody new blowing up. So you know you're always gonna. If you're not constantly dropping and I want a job. I wanted to drop music. I just wasn't able to because now I'm going through legalities and shit like that. So shit kind of just like fucked me over. Low key.
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B
Damn. So why you moved out here to Vegas?
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A
Moved out to Vegas because, you know, it's just better. One is cheap as fuck out here. I don't give a fuck what nobody say. Like, it's cheap as fuck out here versus being in New Jersey or like the east coast. They're just expensive as fuck, you know, like you get a nice like two bedroom, one bedroom out here for like half the price that you would get it in New Jersey.
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B
No state tax too, right?
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A
You know, just got to control that gambling. It's cheap to live out here, but then when you start gambling, that becomes. You don't know what the is going on at that point.
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B
You're a big gambler, Low key.
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A
I picked up a big gambling like, habit living here.
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B
Damn. What's your game? Blackjack, dude.
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A
I play everything. I play free bet, blackjack, craps, baccarat. But like, my go to is like baccarat and craps.
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B
And let's talk about running into a certain individual at one of these casinos.
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A
Okay, what you want?
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B
Steve will do it. That video went viral, dude. I didn't even know you lived here when that video came out.
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A
Right. See, I feel like that was like a big like misunderstanding because like my boy Junior, that's like my manager. Yeah, Junior the mechanic. We, we, we gamble a lot. He gambles too. So like we're at Red Rock one day, we're just chilling and shit, gambling and shit. And him and his wife, they make rugs, right? They make like personal rugs. Like they made one of me and PNB rock. And he, he saw I, I didn't see him, he saw Steve will do it. So like, he got up and went to go try to talk to him and basically was trying to like promote his business. But after he was gonna promote his business, he was gonna be like, yo, like, I'm with Skinny. Like, let's do something. Like we should do some content, whatever it is. But like, he didn't even get the chance to even present himself. I guess from what, from what my understanding that, you know, he was gambling a lot and he was losing like a lot of money at that time. But like, that's the. He kind of like told not in those words, but like the way, like, J. R told me, Junior was kind of like. He kind of basically told him to fuck off. Like, not saying fuck off, but like, just that attitude. And, you know, or maybe. And my boy J.R. got money. Like, J.R. has money. So it's not even like we're like, oh, you're just broke as like, you're looking for a handout. Like, that's kind of how my boy Junior took it. So. But like I said, I wasn't even there for that first interaction. So then Junior comes back to the table, like, yo, that guy Steve will do. It's a jerk. I was like, damn. Like, I don't know. You feel me? He's like. And he was like, yo, I'm about to. I'm about to go tell him about himself. Like, I'm about to tell him, like, you're a jerk. So we get up, we start walking and shit. And you know, at first, Junior, I don't know if you saw the video. At first, J. R is being respectful. Like, it's the security of the casino. The security of the casino. And like, whoever Steve would do it, they actually made the situation worse because, like, JR is being. I don't know if you watch the video, J. R is being really respectful, but the. The security is like, pushing, pushing him back. So like now you're making something that was very calm and very, like, passive. Like, you're actually making him get aggressive because, like, you're pushing somebody back who's just trying to speak. So now then JR Gets heated, Junior takes his shirt off. Then Junior likes. Then Steve tried to, like, Steve, basically. Now Steve's being disrespectful to Junior. So now they start clashing. Mind you, if you watch the video, I'm literally just standing there. I'm just standing there. I'm just watching this happen. So. But Junior not being famous. Junior not having, like, no Instagram following. Like, you wouldn't know who J.R. was. So, like, he obviously, when they were arguing, he saw my face. He knows me. So he immediately just dmed me and just started talking hella shit. And like, he didn't really even give me the chance to explain myself. He kind of was just like, fuck you. And like, fuck me? What did I do? I didn't do nothing. I'm just here, right?
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I just felt like that was kind of fucked up. But, you know, if it was up to me, we could, like, redo that whole situation again and, like, just talk it out and like, like, bro, like, shit, if you felt offended about My boy like, shit. My boy.
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B
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A
Will apologize and, like, if you felt offended by anything I do. My bad. You know, we're men. Fuck that shit. That shit don't really, like if you're watching this, Steve. My bad, bro.
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B
You know that shit was everywhere, right? Every outlet, John out of proportion. Yeah.
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A
You know, Completely.
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B
Did you get banned from the casino?
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A
Nah, yo, I didn't even get banned right away. Fight got banned, like, six months later.
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B
Really?
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A
And I wasn't even. I didn't even get banned at Red Rock. You know, Red Rock is a station casino.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I do. I do a lot of my gambling at station casinos. So I'm at Santa Fe. I don't know if you know where.
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B
I said Santa Fe.
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A
It's a local casino. It's a. No, no. It's a local casino, so. But it belongs to Red Rock.
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B
Okay.
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A
So. And it's, like, close to where I live. So I'm over here at Santa Fe. I hit a 9, 7. Like, had 23 car 97 at $25 on there. It should pay me, like, almost like $5,000. As soon as I hit it. Security, everybody comes over. Like, you know you're banned, right? I'm playing dumb. I'm like. Because I know that Santa Fe is a station casino. So I'm like, nah, I don't. I'm not banned because they got to formally band you. So they were like, nah. I'm like, nah. They're like, yeah, you had, like, a situation at Red Rock. I was like, I still got my money, though. But then I was like, you can't come back here. But I was mad as hell because I like going to that casino. So.
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B
Yeah, Station's got a lot of good casinos.
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A
Yeah. They got Durango.
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B
Durango. Green Valley.
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A
Green Valley.
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B
And they're building a new one.
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A
Right. I had to, like, go bring my fucking gambling somewhere else.
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B
So just because you're loyal to your boy, you get banned from.
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A
Right, but it wasn't even like that. Like, my boy didn't even do anything.
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B
I mean, he took his shirt off and caused a scene, but.
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A
But it's because the security is being aggressive.
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B
Right.
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A
As somebody who's just talking to you normal.
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B
They were probably trying to protect Steve because he's a big customer for them. You know what I mean?
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A
Yeah. But you gotta treat everybody with respect and fairness, you know?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, you don't you can't just judge a book by his cover. Like, I understand Steve's rich as, so like they're probably trying to keep people who like, broke, you know, like, but like Junior has had money. Like he has money, so you don't even know what you're talking about.
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B
Yeah. You know, that's nuts, dude. Have you made up with Adam? You guys cool now?
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A
Me and Adam became cool like, like four years ago. Oh yeah, me and Adam's been cool, bro. Like, Adam, Adam, me and Adam, we got like a love hate relationship, you know, Ever since like, I feel like I've been cool with Kenyalla.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know. You know, him and Kenyella got like some type of beef. I feel like he like tries to throw shade sometimes, but like we talk all the time, you know, it's like fucking content, you know? Fuck that shit. I don't, I don't be taking none of this shit to heart. Like I took my heart out of this shit. Like I already know. Like this shit just be all fun and games, bro. I don't take none of this shit serious.
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B
Yeah, there's a lot of beef on the Internet that's just content and people see each other.
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A
Then it's a. It's a video. Yeah, it's a video. Like it's fucking hilarious.
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B
Yeah. I like being myself though. I try not to like, fake.
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A
Yeah, I feel like you don't really show your face too much, you know, like you're like more of like focusing on the.
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B
The guest. Yeah, well, I have an 8020 rule, you know.
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A
What's that?
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B
I try to Give the guest 80% of the talking time.
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A
Okay. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So that's like what you do in podcasting.
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B
That's what you have to do. Because sometimes the host talks too much.
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A
If you talk too much, you're going to forget the host. The guest is going to forget what? Forget what he was going to say and then you miss out on a good story. 100% slash content.
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B
Yeah. So you're at peace with all your previous beef? So like you've forgiven everyone?
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A
Yeah, man. Like, yeah, like even like back home, like just local shit, bro. Like, I don't know if you know him, you know DJT.
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B
Yeah. Terrence, was that the fire incident at 1?
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A
We're not even gonna speak about that. But it's more like we had like our own little situation. Like I recently just seen him. Like we were hella. We were. We were good friends before this shit.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like before, like the fame and clout but, like, when the. When. When that shit popped off, you know, we had like, a little beef, but that's really my boy, man. And, like, he be doing his thing too, with the DJ shit, you know?
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B
I've heard his name a few times.
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A
Yeah, he's doing his thing with the DJ shit, bro. You know, a few other people back home. My boy Chima, AKA I don't know if you know him. Damson. Damson, He. He was a rapper, but, like, he switched to a car. But, like, Damson Jenkins going crazy. Like, he just did a scene with Blacked, you know, Black this.
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B
Now what is that?
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A
It's like a big, like, company. Yeah, like. And he's from. He's from. He's from. From, like the town.
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B
Damn.
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A
So anybody, whatever it is, whether it's like rap music, DJing, clothing, anybody who, like, just like, got to get to like, that means take it a step further. Like, get mainstream, you know, you gotta give them their flowers, you know? So shout out. Shout out to those guys.
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B
And you still talk to Treyway, right?
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A
Yeah, I still talk to Shotty. Free Shotty. He calls me all the time. We chop it up and shit like that. He should be coming home soon one day.
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B
Oh, really? I thought he got along.
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A
Yeah, I'm. You know, when people are locked up, they always say they coming home soon. You know, you gotta be positive, right? Even if you got 20 years from now, you're coming home soon because you're coming home one day. If you don't got life, you coming home one day. So there's something to look forward to.
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B
Yeah, I remember when they sentenced him, I was like, holy. Yeah, Like, I didn't expect it.
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A
That a free shoddy man. He's a good guy, bro. That whole was 6:9 and all that. I feel like 6:9 was capping a little bit.
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B
Did you get.
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A
I know some people. Some people definitely did take advantage of him for sure, you know, but like, when you really break it down to, like, who took advantage of you? Like, Shotti. I feel like I've seen Shotti with my own eyes. Like, ready to risk it all for 6ix9 inevitable, you know, like, ready to like. And he has kids and shit like that. Ready to risk everything just to see 6ix9ine succeed. So, like, on that aspect of shit, man, like, I feel like that was fucked up.
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B
I wonder what 6ix9ine's doing these days.
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A
Yeah, who knows, bro?
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B
I haven't seen much about him lately, right?
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A
Maybe I saw he was doing like.
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B
Some Spanish Music used to be everywhere, though, dude. That. That peak was like.
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A
That was a crazy.
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B
That was like Andrew Tate level.
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A
Yeah, like, that was. Yeah, that was crazy, bro. Like, 2018 was a year to be alive.
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B
I don't know if another artist will ever be able to get that.
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A
Nah.
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B
That quickly.
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A
Nah, six nine did his thing, bro. Like, I don't care what people say. He did his thing.
- [21:06]
B
You rode that wave too. Good timing for you, right?
- [21:08]
A
Right? Yeah, you know, well, I was supposed to get a song with 6ix9ine. Like, when I did get signed to La Reid, this is how I even know Shotty. So I was supposed to get a song like when I got signed. And this is before, like, 6ix9 inevitable. People hated him at 1. People forget at one point, he was loved. So I had just signed my deal. L A Reid was like, yo, who you want to do a song with? You know, me and my brother, we decided that 6ix9ine would be a good look. So we. We wanted to do the song with 6ix9ine. So, you know, the. My label inquired with his label, and I think Shotti ended up, like, being on that call. And, like, Shoti, it came to Shadi's ear, and we were gonna do the song and then L A Reid, like, changed his mind, like, last minute. So it never happened. But then I probably ended up seeing Shotty, like, probably like a month later at a mall in Jersey. I forgot what the mall was. He was shopping and, you know, he was like, yo, skinny. And I was like, yo, blah, blah, blah, what happened with that song? I thought he was about to do a song and shit like that. And I was like, yeah, my label, I don't know, they changed their mind. But he was like, yo, come, I'm just introduce you to 6ix9ine. Like, come with me tonight. And yeah, we were just rocking out since then.
- [22:20]
B
Damn, that's crazy. So your label was really getting in your way, man.
- [22:23]
A
Low key, bro. Like, even Love Blast, bro. Like, Love Blast was going stupid.
- [22:26]
B
Yeah, that song, like, that was the song.
- [22:28]
A
Like, now that it's going stupid, we supposed to get a remix, you know, we supposed to, like, like, do so much shit with that song. They completely scrapped it and then wanted to work on a whole new song. And, like, the song did numbers, like, Back when I was broke.
- [22:41]
B
That was a good one too.
- [22:42]
A
Yeah, but, like, feel like we were supposed to fucking put the gas behind Love Blast and then follow up with Back when I was broke, but they completely scrapped Love Love Blast. And just went back when I was broke and I just felt like that was stupid.
- [22:55]
B
Damn. I wonder what their thought process was in all this. Because obviously they want.
- [22:58]
A
From what I've heard, from what I've heard, people like labels, they want to take credit for everything. So anything they did before you, I mean, anything you did before them, their hands weren't in on it. So it's like they don't really want to be associated with it. They rather like, now let's do something where we could take credit for like, we gave you this beat, we help you make the lyrics. We did this, we did that, you know?
- [23:18]
B
Yeah. So what's your strategy now? Because the game's changed a lot, right?
- [23:22]
A
Like, it's a landscape really, bro. I just been. I'm still just doing music. I got this one song I'm about to drop. It's called See youe. It's going, it's pretty. It's getting a lot of good feedback on Instagram. I'm just making music, bro. And like, you know, just reaching out to artists new and old and, you know, just getting back to what people like, loved about me, you know, And I'm smarter, a lot wiser now, you know, I got a lot of connections, so I'll just be reaching out and shit like that. And yeah, we, we figuring it out.
- [23:50]
B
You seem way more level headed now, man. I know you were in a lot of drama, like when we were growing up.
- [23:54]
A
Yeah, man. Like, I just feel like, dude, I just, I feel like if I would have blown up anywhere else, like, a lot of people wouldn't have gotten mad. But because we were such. From a town where there's no success when it comes to as far as like performing arts, you know?
- [24:09]
B
Yeah.
- [24:10]
A
People just get mad that it wasn't them or they can't grasp the. They can't fathom, like, how did he do it and not me? I'm sure that happens to you. Like, how did he, like, sell these jerseys? And like, I didn't think of that. Or like, you know, and it's like, you just didn't have the grind, bro. Like, you didn't have the grind. You didn't have the patience. You should never give up on nothing you do because you don't know how close you are to reaching where you're supposed to get to, bro.
- [24:37]
B
My friend showed me a group chat. There's like a group chat of all like 100 guys from my school. They were saying, like, I can't wait till Sean fails.
- [24:43]
A
Like, like, I've and it's crazy, bro. Like, I've never been like that, bro. Like even like growing up, like just in high school, everybody. There was a few other people that made music. Like in Bridgewater and in Somerville, like. And you know, I wasn't the favorite. You know, my music wasn't that good. There were some, there were people that were better than me. People that I thought, like, oh yeah, that guy's gonna go somewhere. I was never the type, like, fuck him, fuck him. I hate him. Like, I was always like, I never. I can honestly say in my soul, bro. I never hated. On the next man.
- [25:12]
B
Wow.
- [25:13]
A
I never, never no jealousy, never no shade, nothing, bro. So when people did it to me, it was. I was just like, wow. Like I'm God's chosen one, bro. Because like when you break it down, bro, like, they hated Jesus.
- [25:25]
B
Yeah.
- [25:26]
A
You know, they stoned Jesus to death. So like, I just always. I'm the chosen one, bro. Like, I'm the chosen one.
- [25:32]
B
Did you feel like you had a chip on your shoulder from all the hate?
- [25:34]
A
I did, bro. And like, what I realized now is like, I was supposed to lead by example. So just because. Just because, like, I like to break it down like this. Like, when somebody's fake to you, you shouldn't be fake back because then you're no better than that person. You're. You're fake too, you know?
- [25:53]
B
Yep.
- [25:53]
A
So I didn't have that mentality back then. So whenever. When somebody would say something negative about me or like, I remember, like, oh, you didn't support me, or you didn't do this, or you didn't do this, or you laughed at me. I was the first to try to go do it back to them.
- [26:06]
B
Damn.
- [26:06]
A
And like, that's not it. Because then I'm just no better than you. I'm the same person you are and I'm. Life is all about leading by example, you know, you gotta lead by example. So even if it's gonna. You gotta suck your pride in sometimes. And you have to, you have to lead by example. You have to be like, just cause you said me don't mean I'm gonna say fuck you. Like, you know, I'm gonna show you the real ways. Done. I'm gonna show you how to do this the right way.
- [26:30]
B
Right.
- [26:30]
A
And like, I should have had that mentality back then. But I'm older now. You know, when you're younger and you. It's hard, bro. It's hard.
- [26:38]
B
You're older. You had a couple of near death experiences too.
- [26:41]
A
Yeah.
- [26:41]
B
That probably changed your perspective, right? Dude, I still remember that shooting. Yeah, you were, like, on Live, right?
- [26:46]
A
Yeah.
- [26:47]
B
Crazy.
- [26:48]
A
That's funny, because I get a lot of flack for that. But, like, bro, how many of us have been shot, right? And then, like, if you have been shot, like, I don't want nobody to wonder what happened to me, you know? Like. Like, let's say I died, and, like, let's say I did die when that happened. And, like, my family and my friends were like, like, what happened? Like, I don't want no confusion. Like, I got shot. I'm over here, and I'm about to die. You feel me? Like, and I want. I wanted my. Everybody. No confusion. And, like, you know, people like, that shit was taken the wrong way. But, like, yeah, bro, I almost got shot. I did get shot. I almost died. Low key.
- [27:28]
B
That was in Miami, right?
- [27:30]
A
Yeah, I was in Miami. And Brickell, bro, like, you got to watch out. I was moving really sloppy, though, you know, I always. I always never knew how big I was, you know? Like, I always, like, thought, like, I. Like, I could just do normal people shit, right? So, like, me being in Miami, I was moving very sloppy. I'm running around with a book bag filled with, like, $100,000. I'm over here walking around with all this jury, bro. I'm over here walking with a book bag with 100,000.
- [27:54]
B
Damn.
- [27:54]
A
And I don't want to pay for valet. I don't want to break none of my.
- [27:59]
B
You were walking to your car?
- [28:00]
A
I walked to my car instead of just parking in valet.
- [28:04]
B
Geez, 20 bucks.
- [28:05]
A
20 bucks, I'd have never got shot. So I'm walking back to my car. I'm with my boys, too, though. I wasn't with, like, no real security, but I was with my boys who. Who, you know, who play like that. And, you know. Rip, one of them, man. One of them died on some. Completely. Yeah, something completely miscellaneous, you know, they knight or different. Nah, like. Like I said miscellaneous. Like, he died on the. You know, he was in the streets. Rip Wolf. But, yeah, I'm with my people. I'm like, nobody gonna try us. Like, anybody try. It's gonna be a shootout. Like, somebody's gonna die. Feel me? Because I'm with a lot of people who. I was with people who. Who. Who, you know, play like that. So I wasn't expecting nobody to do something, bro. And, like, you know, so we. We not even. We lollygagging. Walking to the car. Like, I'm not even walking. I'm not even Walking to the car, like, in a rush. I'm just like. And we walk into the car, we drinking, you know, we having conversations and shit like that. Like, talking about bitches we want to fuck and shit like that. So boom. Like, random car pulls up. Nigga GTA in real life starts happening. Like, bro, like, my boy starts shooting. He passes me a gun. I start shooting at somebody. I'm ducking behind car windows and shit like that. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
- [29:15]
B
Jeez.
- [29:16]
A
You feel me? Like, real life gta, you feel me? Just. You're not gonna spawn back if you die, so. And then, boom. Like, I just realized I got hit. Like, I'm like. I get hit in my leg. I fall to the ground, and. And I'm like, what the, bro? And, like, surprisingly, bro. Like, I don't know. Like, we were in Brickell. Good area.
- [29:34]
B
Yeah.
- [29:34]
A
So probably like, within, like, five minutes of the altercation, we already hear sirens. I'm on the floor bleeding out. I already hear the sirens. So that made the people. They would try to us. They just hopped in their car and leave.
- [29:46]
B
Damn.
- [29:46]
A
And, like, I'm just on the ground bleeding out.
- [29:48]
B
Oh, so they didn't even get anything?
- [29:50]
A
Nah.
- [29:50]
B
Wow.
- [29:51]
A
So I'm on the car. I'm on the ground, just bleeding out and fucking like. Yeah. I don't even know what's going on. I'm like, my boy like, say, yo, you want me to wait for you? Like, do I leave? And you know, he's fudgeing. Shooting somebody illegally. He fudgeing. Just shot at somebody illegally and shit. So, nigga, he. I'm like. He gets. I'm like, bro, just leave. You feel me? So he runs away. He leaves, and I'm just on the ground bleeding out. And finally, like, paramedics and police come and shit like that. And, like, at the time, I'm not knowing I'm shot. I just know I'm trying to get up and I can't. Like. And it's crazy, bro, because, like, I used to think, like, you see people, like, in wheelchairs and shit like that. Like. Like, why can't you just walk and just get up and walk? You really can't.
- [30:31]
B
Yeah.
- [30:31]
A
Like, once you hurt a bone or like, something like that, like, no matter how hard you're trying to, like, get up, you just can't.
- [30:37]
B
Geez, you couldn't even walk.
- [30:38]
A
No, I couldn't walk. I broke my femur. So I got a metal rod in my leg. I had to get surgery. I got, like, a Metal?
- [30:43]
B
Yeah, I got a bullet went straight through the femur.
- [30:46]
A
Yeah, I actually still have the bullet inside me.
- [30:49]
B
Oh, my God.
- [30:49]
A
Yeah, because, like, it would to the. It would have did more damage trying to take the bullet out than just letting your tissue just grow over it. The police. That's what the paramedics said and shit like that. But, like, yeah, like, I know there was a joke going around. Like, I got shot in my ass. Like, bro, bro, if I had to get surgery for my femur and my femur broke, how is that even. Like, how is that even a thing? That's nuts, you know? Like, yeah, I got shot in my leg.
- [31:14]
B
What were you thinking? Those moments where you like, shit, is this.
- [31:17]
A
I'm. This is unfiltered. 100%, bro. Like, I remember the paramedics got me. I can still speak, you know? Like, I'm not dying. Like, I'm like, I'm bleeding out. You feel me? Like. And people say it's just a leg shot, but you know the football player, Sean Taylor?
- [31:27]
B
Yeah.
- [31:28]
A
Play for the Redskins. They broke into his house. He died from a leg shot.
- [31:32]
B
Yeah, if you hit an artery in your leg.
- [31:34]
A
A few people died from a leg shot. Plexigl Burris. He didn't die, but, like, he suffered, like, a lot of, like, he got. When he brought the gun in the club and shot himself by accident. Like, you nigga, that's. That's serious. So what's it called? I just remember. Like, I'm not knowing where I'm shot at yet. Remember? I just know I'm shot because they're telling me, and they don't even know where I'm shot. They just see a bunch of blood on the floor. So I'm just like. I remember they finally put me in the stretcher. I'm looking at the nurse and the paramedic in the ambulance. I'm just like, yo, like, am I gonna be able to have babies? Like, did I get shot, like, somewhere? Where did I get shot? In my dick? That's the first thing I asked. Did I get shot in my dick? He's like, no. I'm like, so I can still have babies one day, right? Say yes. All right, so then break it down to me. I got shot in my spine, didn't I? I'm never gonna walk again. He's like, no, you'll be able to walk again. You just got shot in your leg. I was like, thank God. I was like, are you sure? Don't. Don't lie to me. Just give it to Me uncut, like, I don't care. I'm strong enough for it. Said, bro, relax. You just got shot in your leg. You're going to need a new femur and, like, you'll be able to walk again. I was like, okay, good.
- [32:40]
B
So your first thought was, am I going to have kids? So you want kids or, like, have sex again?
- [32:43]
A
Like the shot of my dick, like, just keep it a buck.
- [32:46]
B
As a guy, that would suck right up sex.
- [32:49]
A
Right, right, right. All I care about is, like, having sex.
- [32:52]
B
That was the peak of your career. You're probably having a bunch of sex.
- [32:54]
A
I want to have sex.
- [32:55]
B
Yeah.
- [32:56]
A
East coast girls or west coast, Anything, Anybody, bro. East coast, west coast, whatever. As long as you look good.
- [33:02]
B
Yeah. You don't care.
- [33:03]
A
Yeah, I'll be trying to hit some of the locals.
- [33:04]
B
I like East Coast.
- [33:05]
A
I'd be like, trying to hit some of the girls we went to school with. Yeah, I got lucky with a few.
- [33:08]
B
They're more innocent.
- [33:10]
A
Yeah, well, when you're exposed to this industry, like, I don't really like, you know, what I attract at least. You know, like, I think I'm pretty good looking. I attract a lot of girls. But like, the girls that always go after me are gonna be like strippers, bartenders, you know, like nightlife girls. And like, I don't like that. You know, I want like, I like regular girls, like back in like Bridgewater Somerville type shit. I like no work done, no bbl. No, none of that. Like, I like normal bitches with like some good ass pussy.
- [33:40]
B
Yeah. No work for me to fake boobs turn off.
- [33:44]
A
Right, right. I never, even when I had like a hell of bread, I still like, I don't know, just turn off.
- [33:50]
B
Like, just fake.
- [33:50]
A
Right.
- [33:51]
B
Botox now is smile.
- [33:54]
A
Exactly. And you got Michael Jackson face.
- [33:56]
B
Yeah. You dealt with actually facial paralysis, right?
- [33:59]
A
Yeah, I did, bro. That was also like, I just yo that with the facial paralysis. So, like, I remember this is no warning. I remember I woke up one day and like, I forgot what side this happened at. But like, one of my sides, I remember it. I just kept like crying all day from that eye. Not crying, but like, it was getting watery and it just kept tearing.
- [34:22]
B
Yeah.
- [34:22]
A
And I'm just like, damn, bro. Like, my allergies are acting up, so I'm just. I keep rubbing my eye the whole entire day and like, not knowing that, like I'm fucking have a facial paralysis. So I go all day, I'm just rubbing my eye, shit just keeps getting watery. Finally the next day I go to Sleep. Next day, I'm still having the same problem. Like, what the fuck is going on? I finally go to the mirror. I'm like. I'm looking in my eye. I try to blink. I'm like, holy shit. One side didn't blink. I'm like, wait, what the fuck? I'm blinking again. I'm like, oh. So I go get my dad and my. My. This girl I was talking to at the moment. I'm like, yo, like, look at my face. Like, I can't blink. And, like, then I try to smile. I'm like, oh, shit. I can't even smile from this side either. So I was like, oh, damn, I was tripping, bro. I thought, like, I was possessed. Like, I thought the fucking omen just, like, took over my body. And I thought I'm about to, like, just, like, become a demon and just, like, kill everybody. Like, I was tripping.
- [35:23]
B
Yeah.
- [35:24]
A
So then I'm like, we gotta go to the hospital right now. And then, like, they just told me, like, yeah, like, you had Bell's palsy. They said it happens without warning and, like, it just goes away by itself. So I probably had that for, like, a month. And then one day I just, like, looked in the mirror and, like, it went away.
- [35:38]
B
Damn. A month, though? Yeah, that's pretty long.
- [35:41]
A
Oh, that was hella weird. I was trying to, like, make music. I'm trying to, like, chill with people, and I'm just like, man, I'm over here with, like, the, like, joker face. Like, hey.
- [35:53]
B
And you haven't gotten it back since?
- [35:54]
A
No, I haven't, surprisingly. But, like, one of my eyes, I think one of my eyes suffer from that. Because now when I meet people, they don't tell me immediately, but, like, later on, like, when we get close, not even people, Girls, they'd be like, you know, like, you have, like, a lazy eye. I was like, no, I don't.
- [36:08]
B
Which one is it?
- [36:09]
A
I don't know. So, like, I can't tell, right? But, like, I guess, like, you know, girls are different when you're, like, fucking them and shit like that. They pay attention to everything you do.
- [36:16]
B
Yeah, that's true.
- [36:17]
A
Yeah, they said. I've been told that a few times I have a lazy eye. So I guess that was one of the side effects that happened from that.
- [36:24]
B
You liking the girls out here in Vegas?
- [36:27]
A
Some of them. It's a lot of prostitutes and shit. Like, you know, I'm just from the east coast, not used to that. But, like, if you are a prostitute, like, I just feel like there's no, like, future with us unless, like, you know, like, you give me your money type shit. Like a pimp. Like a pimp?
- [36:44]
B
Yeah.
- [36:44]
A
Because, like, what do I look like, loving on you, but, like, you're going, like, getting smashed every night and you're coming back with, like, thousands of dollars. So, like, off rip. Like, I need that, you know? And then, like, we could, like, work on ourselves.
- [36:58]
B
I couldn't date an OS girl. Oh, no.
- [37:00]
A
Well, of is different. That's like digital pimping.
- [37:03]
B
You think it's different?
- [37:03]
A
That's digital?
- [37:04]
B
You could date an OH girl.
- [37:06]
A
Yeah, if they're making, like, tens of thousands of dollars, why not? I've, like, removed myself from, like, a lot of shit. Like, I don't know, like, I'm just numb to it. I'm just like, I don't know. I really don't care. Like, if I had an of girl where she's getting naked.
- [37:20]
B
Getting naked, but also typing to the guys, like, sending them nudes and shit.
- [37:23]
A
I'll be the one typing shit. What you need then? It's a business, right? I'll be the type. All right, what do you want? You want, like, a picture of my tits? So now I'm telling her, like, yo, send a picture of your tits. But, like, does it. You're getting. I feel like. But I've been cheated on before in the past.
- [37:39]
B
Yeah.
- [37:40]
A
And, like, it hurts, obviously, like, when you really love somebody. But, like, why does it hurt? Have you ever asked yourself, why does it hurt?
- [37:46]
B
Oh, we're getting deep now.
- [37:47]
A
How why does it hurt when somebody cheats on you, like, physically, you're saying.
- [37:51]
B
Yeah, because that should only be for you.
- [37:56]
A
Right. But me, I thought deeper. I'm like, I've been cheated on before. And I always ask myself, like, damn, like, this shit fucking. It hurts, you know? But, like, why? And then I realized something. I'm like, I invested so much into this person, you know? Like, I spent a lot of money on them, took them on trips, bought them shit. So I invested a lot of stuff into this person. And then I realized when the people that I didn't invest in, nothing into, and I maybe did like them, and, like, they probably went to go do their own thing. I never gave a fuck. I only gave a fuck about the people that I invested so much into. So, like, it all just, like, from a business standpoint, it just hurts to see somebody. Enjoy your hard work. Right?
- [38:41]
B
Right.
- [38:42]
A
So, like, you go fuck somebody else, and I'm the one that, like, you know, I fucking gave you Your confidence. I fucking posted you all over my Instagram. I fucking gave you hella followers. I fucking made you popping, you know, like, so, yeah, that shit bothers me. So now it just came down to a science where I'm just like, if I'm not. If I, like, I'm not the type to, like, just like, go super hard for nobody no more. Like, it's just like, I rather. Like I said, you want only fans. All right, we both gonna work at this, you know what I'm saying? Like, we both. It's gonna be a business. And I just. I view relationships as businesses now.
- [39:15]
B
Damn, that's an interesting take.
- [39:17]
A
Right?
- [39:18]
B
So I think you've been heartbroken so many times, basically, is what you're saying, that you don't want to invest in a girl anymore, right?
- [39:23]
A
Unless, like, she's invested in me now. It's an equal investment, you know what I'm saying? Like, you damn near got to take me out to dinner first if you on that type of time, you know what I'm saying? But, like, usually, like, I don't know, like, the normal girls and shit like that, like, normal girls, like, from, like, Bridgewater, Somerville, they don't really, like, beyond shit like that. So it's like, I don't know nobody, like, really from Bridgewater somewhere doing only fans.
- [39:43]
B
No.
- [39:44]
A
Right. So it's like those type of girls, you know, we go get a drink or something like that, but like, all that, like, wine and dining shit, like, I just feel like I should only do that. It's like, you're really exclusive to me, you know? I'm saying it's like, so, like, I'm not really, like, I'm not on that.
- [40:01]
B
I know a lot of dudes. I spend like six figures a year on woman.
- [40:05]
A
Blows my mind and get no pussy.
- [40:06]
B
Barely any.
- [40:07]
A
Come on, bro. And yo, girls know that. Like, you're a trick, you know? I'm saying, like, that's you. That, like, you're out here, like, you'll get laughed at. I'm not on that shit, bitch. Like, you feel me? Like, I'm not taking you nowhere. Like, you're going to chill with me because you like me. You feel me? I'm not applying pressure or trying to prove myself. Like, type of joke is that? Yeah, what type of joke is that? Because I broke it down. Like, the girls, they really like girls that I've slept with and girls that really like me. I never had to do none of that. Why? Because if a girl really likes you, she'll fucking Go to your fucking. You can live in a box. She'll come fucking hang out with you at your box.
- [40:43]
B
Yeah.
- [40:43]
A
You know what I'm saying? So that whole apply pressure and shit like that, that's what bitches say to. They already got somebody. They already have somebody in their mind that they want. So now they want you to like. And that person doesn't want them. So now you're, like, trying to. Man, I prove myself to shit. You already know me. Okay? Skinny front of nine, big skinny rapper I got. Nigga, you already know me. I don't need to prove myself. If you don't know if you like me within the first hour, what the fuck is we even talking about? Or you feel me? I'm charismatic, I'm passionate, I'm funny, I can look good. There's nothing to talk about. You don't know if you like me, then that's your own problem, bro. I don't gotta fucking take you out on dinner to figure out if you like me.
- [41:22]
B
No dinner dates, right? You think you'd ever do an exclusive relationship again? Because when I first met you, you were in a long. How long did you date that chick for?
- [41:31]
A
That's funny, bro. We dated a. I mean, like, I was with her, like, my whole entire high school career. My whole entire high school career. And a little bit after high school and, you know, we broke up. Cause of me?
- [41:42]
B
Cause you got too big, too.
- [41:43]
A
I wasn't f. Nah, I wasn't famous. No, we broke up. Love blast came from her. Oh, that was for her. She broke up with me. I went to the studio. I made that song because I was sad and heartbroken. And then that song blew up.
- [41:57]
B
That's crazy.
- [41:57]
A
That's some movie shit.
- [41:58]
B
And she wanted you back.
- [42:00]
A
She did. We spoke a little bit after the fact. You know, she's married and married now. I don't really want to be putting her business out like that shit. And, like, you know. But, yeah, we chilled a few times after that and, you know, we had that conversation, obviously. It's funny, but ultimately, like, you know, we broke up because of me. You know, I wasn't loyal, so. Damn, how could I be mad that you move on and you go do something else? That's another thing where people, like, fail to realize. It's like, you can't expect nothing from nobody after you have hurt that person, right? Like, people gonna go do whatever they want.
- [42:35]
B
Damn.
- [42:35]
A
And just always have that mentality, like, expect nothing from nobody except to do what people do. They gonna go whoever they want. They're gonna go do whatever they want.
- [42:45]
B
You've reflected a lot, man. You're, like, way more mature.
- [42:48]
A
I'm a philosopher.
- [42:49]
B
No, you're. You're way more mature than I ever done this, bro.
- [42:53]
A
Like, I really, like, had some long talks with myself.
- [42:56]
B
People won't ever come to those conclusions. You know what I mean?
- [42:58]
A
Right. Because a lot of people are. What's that word?
- [43:02]
B
Ego.
- [43:02]
A
Egotistic. And, like, you know, they're. What's that word?
- [43:06]
B
Stubborn.
- [43:07]
A
Stubborn and hypocritical.
- [43:09]
B
Right.
- [43:10]
A
A lot of hypocrisy.
- [43:11]
B
It's hard to take accountability. Sometimes.
- [43:13]
A
Accountability is the first thing to, like, realizing everything. I take accountability every day. I know when something's my fault. You know, I'm not even. I used to be a very big manipulator. I know if something's my fault, and I get nine times out of 10 just, like, admitted, oh, yeah, that was my fault. My bad.
- [43:29]
B
Are you religious at all?
- [43:30]
A
Religious? Yeah. Well, see, a lot of people don't know this. I grew up in a Jehovah Witness household.
- [43:37]
B
No way.
- [43:38]
A
Swear to God.
- [43:38]
B
Your mother?
- [43:39]
A
No, my father. So my father's mom, my grandmother, my father's mom. Well, my father's mom and dad. My grandfather passed away. Rip. There's Jehovah Witnesses, full fledged Jehovah Witnesses, baptized and all that. So that obviously, when my dad got out of. When my dad got out of prison, my dad obviously was very, you know, like, turned a new leaf. So part of his shit was like, oh, like, I believe in God now. Like, you know, I'm a. I'm a Jehovah Witness. My dad. Yeah, my dad was serious on us, me and my brother. Like, I never told nobody back in school because that shit was embarrassing. Low key. Like, not embarrassing, but, like, you know, like, I don't know, like Jehovah Witnesses people, you know, people have a lot of negative things.
- [44:23]
B
Yeah, I grew up.
- [44:24]
A
I really grew up in that. Like, I'm talking about, like, every Sunday, go to the congregation, every Saturday, go preaching, knocking on people's doors.
- [44:31]
B
You were doing a young, skinny, front.
- [44:32]
A
Of nine was knocking on people's doors, bro. I swear to God, bro, I'll always be like. Like, I hope nobody from, like, school sees me. Like, that gonna be hella awkward, yo. And I never really. I never got baptized, though. So, like, I never, like, really, like, just living. When you're under 18 and you live with your parents, you got to do everything they tell you to do. That was, like, every Saturday, every Sunday, so obviously me Going to, like, the congregation and stuff. I'm pretty smart. So, like, you know, I've. I listened. I had no choice. I'm gonna. I have to come here. So I listened. And I've, you know, I've had Bible studies too, like, as a. Like 13, 14, 15, having Bible studies. So, like, I remember everything they taught us. And like, when I really break it down where, like, now I'm older and I can really make my own decisions in life, when I compare what Jehovah Witnesses taught me versus, like, other religions, in my heart, I feel like Jehovah Witnesses, like, that is the truth.
- [45:28]
B
Wow.
- [45:28]
A
Like, I feel like that. I feel like there is a God, you know what I'm saying? Like, his name's Jehovah. And, you know, Judgment day is going to come one day and, like, you know, he's going to kill all the evil and, you know, the good people are going to be resurrected and shit like that. Like, I do believe in all of that. Damn. That's nuts, right? What about you?
- [45:47]
B
I don't know too much about Jehovah. I grew up a little Christian.
- [45:50]
A
Yeah.
- [45:50]
B
Stop going to church because, dude, I have adhd. Like, I'm jumping off the wall. Like, I'd be sitting in church, but I believe in God or something. Dude, there has to be, right? Like, I believe in karma, right? Like, I think you put out good energy, you get it back, right?
- [46:03]
A
Part of being Jehovah Witnesses, we never celebrated birthdays or holidays. Yeah.
- [46:07]
B
That's crazy.
- [46:08]
A
Yeah.
- [46:08]
B
So my. My fiance, I'm getting married in three months and her cousin is a Jehovah. So. Yeah, I was learning about that.
- [46:14]
A
When you realize when you. This is why I believe this shit, though, because, like, when you really break it down to, like, history, right? Like, when you break down some of. Where some of these holidays came from, like, they come from, like, bad shit.
- [46:26]
B
Really.
- [46:27]
A
Like, if you go down to, like, whatever, like, the first birthday was. First birthday, like, in history was, like, from a king, right? Some king. He had multiple wives. But it says in the Bible that you should only have one wife. So that's weird, right? Multiple wives. And, like, he would, like, celebrate by, like, killing people and shit like that. He would kill, like, the. Something like that. Like, kill, like, you know, like kill somebody. Like, chop their heads off and shit like that. Like, weird shit like that. And, like, that was the first birthday. So, like, why are we celebrating birthdays? You know what I'm saying? But some of the stuff I don't agree with because, like, I'm gonna Celebrate my birthday. Because, like, obviously, like, I don't. Just because he did that on his birthday don't mean. You know what I'm saying? I'm celebrating my birthday, so. Wow.
- [47:09]
B
So most Jehovah's don't celebrate their birthday.
- [47:11]
A
None of them do.
- [47:12]
B
Holy crap.
- [47:13]
A
No holidays, no Christmas, no birthdays, no. Like Valentine's Day, Thanksgiving? No Thanksgiving. They celebrate one thing and it's when. When Jesus got resurrected.
- [47:26]
B
What day is that?
- [47:28]
A
I forgot. It's like in March, I think, like in March. And it's like. Yeah. They resurrect. They. They celebrate his resurrection.
- [47:34]
B
Damn. So that's how you grew up.
- [47:36]
A
Yeah.
- [47:36]
B
Holy.
- [47:38]
A
And you would have never known because I'm trying to be a rapper. Yeah. So I'm. My. My mind is polluted already. Wow.
- [47:45]
B
So do you feel like you were living two lives like I want.
- [47:48]
A
Nah. Because, like, once I got old, I mean, what am I really doing when I'm like 14, 13, 15? It wasn't until like maybe like 17 or 18, I kind of like made my own decisions. I stopped going. So, like. But I didn't keep going because then I felt like I am going to be living a double life and I'm more conscious of what I'm doing. So me being more conscious of what I'm doing, I feel like that's disrespectful to God. I feel like God would be more understanding, forgiving if I wasn't living a double life. Because then that's just a slap in your face.
- [48:17]
B
Yeah.
- [48:17]
A
Right. So that's how I always broke it down in my brain.
- [48:20]
B
That's nice, dude. I didn't know you had this side to you. Holy shit.
- [48:24]
A
Yeah, you, you know, you really. That's why girls like me. Because when they get next to me.
- [48:28]
B
You actually have substance to you.
- [48:30]
A
Substance.
- [48:30]
B
Let's be honest, a lot of, like, rappers, I'm not trying to generalize, but the conversation level isn't the highest.
- [48:35]
A
Right, you know? I know, I know. Trust me.
- [48:38]
B
Yeah, I did want to talk about PNB rock because you guys did some big stuff together, right? And you probably learned a lot from him.
- [48:44]
A
Yeah, man, RIP PNB rock, man. That was my boy. You know, um, he wasn't like a lot of other people that I met. You know, our relationship wasn't the best of terms before he passed away, but, like, we did still talk a little bit here and there. Um, PNB showed me a lot of love, man. Like, I feel like PNB never got the credit he deserved. Right. Like, I feel like he Was very talented. Um, that's all I listened to growing up. Like I listened to Fetty Wap, PnB Rock and A Boogie. Like those are the three rappers I listened to like my whole entire high school and like, even after high school. So I just feel like PNB never got the respect he deserved. And you know, he introduced me to a lot of people. He was never like weird when it came to like clout and like famous like that. Like he, he, he posted me millions of times, did the song with me, came to the video, always invited me out, like, yo, I'm performing over here. Like, come out, I'll bring you out as a special guest, you know, answer. Every time I called him. We had some good like heart to heart conversations. That was my boy, man. And that was fucked up what they did, man. Like that I cried when PNB Rock died because like, even though we weren't as close anymore, I just feel like that was my boy, man. And like, I just wanted to see the best for him.
- [50:01]
B
Yeah, that one must have fucked you up, man.
- [50:03]
A
Yeah, that was one of my idols, man.
- [50:05]
B
That one was so unexpected too.
- [50:06]
A
Yeah, that's crazy, man. Like you gotta. And it's sad that like that even like that just shows you, bro. Like somebody who was like loved could still be a target of like being robbed and like, like that, you know, I'm saying because like people will say like, oh well, people hate you. That's why like things happen to you. But like, nah, it's not even that. It's just people are always looking for an easy way out, you know, they see you flashing with lots of jewelry and shit like that, they want to get a come up, you know, and like maybe get a few, few 20,000, $30,000 and you know, that's, that's, that's a lot of money for them.
- [50:39]
B
Yeah.
- [50:39]
A
So people are willing to risk it all no matter who you are, you know. I'm saying there's a lot of rappers that were loved. They got killed, man. Like Pop Smoke, xxx, pnb, Nipsey Nipsey. Like these people were loved by their communities, you know, and they still were a victim of, of trying to get robbed, you know. So it's crazy, man. Like, it's sad. RIP all of them, dude.
- [51:04]
B
Almost happened to you too.
- [51:05]
A
Yeah, literally.
- [51:06]
B
La. You got to move smart though, these days.
- [51:07]
A
Holy la. It's crazy because like when you get robbed or like someone that happens like a thief in the night, you don't know when that's about to happen. It just Happens. So you gotta move sturdy.
- [51:18]
B
Yeah. Do you feel like you're always, like, looking over your shoulder?
- [51:21]
A
Nah, not no more, like, you know, like I said, man, I think a lot of people, like, have learned to just, like, accept me for me and, you know, like, you know, I move with God, bro. I move with the grace of God, bro. Like, I ain't got. I'll be worrying about a lot of, like, I'll be out here. You could catch me at a casino by myself, gambling. Like, I'll be by myself most of the time.
- [51:41]
B
Respect. Yeah, they got a Free Fetty wall, man.
- [51:44]
A
Yeah. Yo, Free Fetty, bro. I feel like that's another thing. Like, man, Fetty Watt, bro, he was a big inspiration. I told you earlier. That was a big inspiration to. To my whole entire career, man. Like, you know, we. That's another thing. Like, our relationship kind of fell apart. But, like, I feel like if we ever get to have a conversation, I feel like I could fix our relationship. And, you know, I feel like they need to free him asap, you know, he should have got that Trump pardon. You know, he pardoned Trump pardoned a bunch of people. Like, why not pardon Wap? Like, what Wap is in there for is not even violent. It's nonviolent drugs, bro. Like, non violent. He's freed violent offenders. Why don't you free a non violent offender, right? And, like, he makes good music and shit like that. Why not, man? Free Fetty, the king of Jersey. That's really the King of Jersey.
- [52:34]
B
I still bump him once in a while.
- [52:35]
A
I bump him all the time to this day.
- [52:37]
B
Yeah. Shout out to Fetty.
- [52:38]
A
Yep.
- [52:39]
B
So when you say you're not on.
- [52:40]
A
The best terms, Fetty brought me, like, that was my first tour.
- [52:43]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [52:43]
A
When I was blowing up and Love Blast was blowing up, Fetty said, come on tour with me. I performed, like, at all the east coast dates because I was still, like, in negotiations with labels. So I was still like. And the label even like, wow, like, you're already on a tour. Like, yeah, like, I'm on tour with Fetty Wap. So, you know, he. He. He added to my value. Like, like about to, like, get signed and shit like that. Even just knowing him, when I would go to labels, like, yeah, like, I know Fetty Wap and shit. Like, that was big because, like, someone like me, like, damn, how do you know like, a big, like, rapper already?
- [53:13]
B
So, yeah, shout out to him.
- [53:14]
A
Yeah.
- [53:15]
B
What was causing you to have, like, a fallout with these artists? Was it the same problem?
- [53:18]
A
No, I feel like it was more like just what they were seeing on the Internet, bro. Like, a lot of just got blown out of proportion, bro. And then, like, me just, like, my reaction to everything kind of just made it worse. Like, I feel like people were like, I should have acted more mature to some of the. That was, like, happening at the time, and I acted very immature, so I kind of made myself look like a fool. So for, like, people on the outside looking in, they don't know what the going on. They just know, like, oh, yo, this kid's acting a little too wild for me.
- [53:48]
B
Yeah.
- [53:48]
A
You know, and, like, time passes on, then you don't talk to nobody for, like, a while, and then, you know, relationships kind of fade. But, like, I know everybody that Fetty's cool with, you know? Like, I know everybody, so I still talk to everybody that Fetty knows I have a relationship with. I just don't have a relationship with you. So I feel like maybe when he comes home, like, we'll be able to fix that shit asap.
- [54:08]
B
I want to represent Jersey, bro. I want us all united.
- [54:11]
A
Yeah. I always.
- [54:12]
B
I want Jersey to be the best team, bro.
- [54:13]
A
But, like, I just feel like with. Jersey's so different from most states, bro, because everybody has that, like, I feel like in Jersey, just everybody has that mentality where, like, they want to be that guy.
- [54:22]
B
We're not united.
- [54:23]
A
They want to be that guy.
- [54:24]
B
There's so many cities and counties, and.
- [54:26]
A
Versus, like, other states were like, we about to all be rich.
- [54:29]
B
Yeah.
- [54:30]
A
You know?
- [54:31]
B
No. 100. Jersey's very divided. Even within your own town, there's division.
- [54:34]
A
Yeah, for sure.
- [54:35]
B
But I still hear of new towns in Jersey all the time. When people come up to me and I'm like, I'm from this town in Jersey. I'm like, where the is I right?
- [54:41]
A
You know, I've heard about some new towns lately, too. I'm like, damn. Just when I thought I knew all about New Jersey, I don't because I.
- [54:47]
B
Never went to South Jersey. Really?
- [54:48]
A
Right now? I used to chill over there. Yeah, but, like. Yeah, like, Freehold and, like, fucking, like, Tom's river and, like, what else? Like Brick and like that. Yeah, I've been to those places.
- [54:59]
B
What's your go to town in Jersey?
- [55:01]
A
I kind of like going up north now.
- [55:02]
B
Yeah.
- [55:02]
A
Like, I like to be in Edgewater. Hoboken.
- [55:05]
B
Hoboken's nice. Jersey City.
- [55:06]
A
Jersey City. You know, sometimes when I go back home, like, I'm going to Jersey in August, you know, I like to be in Somerville local, you know, I like, go to the local bars and shit like that.
- [55:17]
B
You got good food there, bro.
- [55:18]
A
Yeah, Somerville has good food.
- [55:19]
B
I'd be eating at that Main street all the time when I'm back.
- [55:21]
A
When are you going back?
- [55:23]
B
August.
- [55:24]
A
Oh, yeah. So we might see each other. Let's hang out.
- [55:26]
B
Yeah. August 14th.
- [55:27]
A
Oh, yeah. I'll be there August 5th, but I'm gonna be there still on the 14th.
- [55:31]
B
I'll hit you up. I'll hit you up. We might have to go to Somerville together. Reminiscent the whole time.
- [55:35]
A
Let's do it.
- [55:36]
B
Well, dude, it's been awesome. What are you working on next? Where can people keep up with you and everything?
- [55:40]
A
You know, just on Instagram, skinnyfooter9erscore. And, you know, I just been dropping music, you know, just doing YouTube shit like that. And. Yeah, just being myself.
- [55:53]
B
Check him out, guys. He's a changed man. Let's get it. Peace.
- [55:56]
A
Let's do it. Peace.