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Social Media Marketing: Leveraging Makeup Artists vs Influencers | Princess Love DSH #917
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Discover the game-changing difference between working with makeup artists vs influencers in social media marketing! 🎯 Princess Love shares her success secrets with her cosmetics brand Prella, revealing why professional makeup artists can be more valuable than traditional influencers for beauty brands.
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I studied a lot. I was like, I learned how to play and then I just was obsessed with it. I'm competitive. I'm not, I don't. I'm not a gambler. I learned about poker and then I, I came to Vegas like, two weeks later. I literally, like, walked in front of, like, the poker room like 100 times. Like, I was so nervous to sit down and play. Yeah, Yeah, I played and I just, I fell in love with it. By April of 2023, I won my first tournament.
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B
Damn. All right, guys. Princess love here. Today we're at the celebrity poker tournament. You've won it previously, and I think you'll win again tomorrow.
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A
I don't know. We'll see what happens. You know, you have to run. Good. I feel like this is a fun event. I already won one, so I'm just gonna have fun, you know?
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Yeah.
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And no, I'm probably gonna bluff everybody.
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B
I don't know. You're a killer on the table. It's impressive. Have you been playing for a while?
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No. So I've been playing for, like, two years now.
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B
Oh, not that long.
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Yeah.
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How'd you get so good so quick, you think?
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I studied a lot. I was like, I learned how to play and then I just was obsessed with it because, you know, I'm competitive and I don't, I'm not, I don't. I'm not a gambler. So I learned about poker and then I came to Vegas like, two weeks later. I literally, like, walked in front of, like, the poker room like, a hundred times. Like, I was so nervous to sit down and play.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. And then I get nervous just walking by, seeing, like 50 people.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, it's not the brightest setting to just.
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A
Yeah. And sit down and then it's like, it's, you know, mostly all men, and, you know, they know what they're doing. I don't. But I played, and I just. I fell in love with it. That was in November of 2022. By April of 2023, I won my first tournament.
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Damn.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You're a quick learner.
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Yeah, I am.
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Have you been like that in other aspects of life, do you think?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you just pick up stuff.
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I just. If I'm. If I'm into it, then I put all my focus into that until I master it.
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B
Right, and you're doing that with cooking now, right?
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Yeah. Yeah, I love to cook. I love to eat.
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What's your best dish to make?
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Signature dish. I don't know. It changes because when I'm like, when I. When I cook something that I like, I keep cooking it until I'm tired of it. So right now it's Caribbean oxtails with chicken stew and rice and peas.
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Oh, I love oxtail. It's just annoying to kind of, like, cook. But, yeah, I love oxtail.
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Yeah. And I have. I have mastered hibachi and the fried rice.
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B
Really?
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Yes. Better than any restaurant.
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B
Whoa.
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A
Yeah.
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B
The hibachi out here sucks.
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A
Yeah. I don't even order it anymore. I have to cook it.
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B
No, it literally sucks out here.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm from Jersey, where it's decent. But.
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But you know what? I have. Oh, and you should write this down.
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Yeah.
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You have to tell them when they make it. You have to tell them extra soy sauce, extra garlic butter.
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Taking notes.
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Yeah. And in the rice, you have to tell them extra soy sauce, extra eggs, extra garlic butter, and that.
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B
Whoa.
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That. Yeah, that makes the flavors.
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B
I'm sending this to my chef when I get home. Wow. Good to know.
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Yeah.
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B
You might have to pull up in a hibachi truck to the next event, start cooking for everyone. That'd be fun. Yeah. Any shows or movies coming up?
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Love a hip hop Miami. I've been on that for a few years. I just did a movie called Deadly Getaway that just came out recently. I have two more movies coming out.
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B
Wow.
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A
One called Camp Joy with Vivica Fox. And what was that? I did one more, but it's like, you know, you. You. You film them, like, and they don't come out for, like, three years later.
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Oh, it takes that long?
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Yeah.
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Holy crap. But, yeah, you forget who you're even.
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Yeah, like, I forget what the movie's called.
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I wonder why is it the editing that just takes so long, you think?
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Yeah, yeah. Because Camp Joy, I think, was supposed to come out in theaters, and then Covid hit.
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Oh, so you filmed that before COVID Yeah. It's like four years.
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Yeah.
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Holy crap.
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Yeah.
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Is acting the main.
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And then there was a writer's strike.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So that affected it, but, yeah, Deadly getaway is out right now.
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Okay, I'll check that one out. Is acting the main focus for you right now?
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No, it's not. It's just, you know, I love acting. I always wanted to act because I started out in reality television. So after I got comfortable, like, in front of the camera, I took acting lessons, and I'm like, let me do this professionally. Right. Because in reality, I'm acting like myself. I would rather put that focus into when your gut feels off, your whole day can feel off. Activia probiotic yogurts and dailies are a quick, easy, and tasty way to up your gut health game every day. They're deliciously smooth and creamy, packed with billions of live and active probiotics. Your gut is where it all begins. So start with Activia. Enjoying Activia twice a day for two weeks as part of a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle can help reduce the frequency of minor digestive discomfort. Whole Foods Market has Thanksgiving gatherings covered. First things first, reserve your no antibiotics ever. Fresh whole turkey today, starting at $2.99 a pound. Or go with their organic spiral cut bone and ham full of seared in flavor for sides. Choose Whole Foods Market grab and go platters go even further and get your whole meal catered. Just order online by November 26th. Get Thanksgiving ready at Whole Foods Market. Terms apply, like becoming a character, you know, so, yeah, it's fun. I would. I would still do acting, but I wouldn't say it's my passion.
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Okay.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Do you like reality better? Reality tv?
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No, I don't.
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B
Oh, really?
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No, I don't.
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How come?
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I feel like I'm just too real for reality television. You know, these girls try to come up with, like, storylines and. Oh, try to go to dinner after, like. No, I'm taking this very personally. You know, like, if you're gonna try and fight with me on camera, then we're not going to dinner after. We're not friends.
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Right.
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You know, so.
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Yeah. So people take it a little too far, I guess, for a show.
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Yeah. And I feel like sometimes like, I'm a target because I've been on there longer than a lot of people. So the new girls maybe try to establish themselves. You know, I could see that so, you know, I just. I just don't have time for the drama, you know, not real drama anyway. I'd rather act in a movie and have that type of drama.
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Yeah. So are there. Are the cameraman just following around all day?
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No, actually, you have a schedule, and then you do hair and makeup, and then you get about two hours to film whatever scenes you're going to film. Sometimes it can, like, go over, but yeah, you get about, like, two hours to film, so it's like they have to get what they need to get in that two hours.
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Oh, okay. You know, so it's not too invasive?
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No, no, no.
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Okay. Because I see the. My girl watches the Kardashian show, and it seems like they.
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Well, I. I think maybe they might follow them around all day because it's just them with me, it's like I'm on an ensemble cast, so there's, like, different people with different storylines and different lives. So they have to block out certain days for certain people.
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B
Right, yeah. Was that show the one that broke you out into the mainstream?
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Yeah.
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Love and hip hop. I've heard of that show. I've never seen it, but.
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Yeah.
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Is that, like, a huge fan base?
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I guess, yeah. Yeah. They have different franchises. They have New York. I started on Hollywood, so. Hollywood. They have Miami, Atlanta. Yeah.
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They've gone. You've gone from Hollywood to the Miami show?
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Yeah.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, because they ended Hollywood, and then I. Well, Ray and I, we moved to Miami, so we ended up doing Miami.
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B
Okay. What were you doing before the shows?
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I was. Oh, before I was on tv. Yeah, I was a fashion designer.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay.
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Yeah.
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So you had, like, celebrity clients and you were designing?
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No, no, no, no. I was like. I made clothes and I sold them, and I had a brand. Yeah.
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B
Okay, so you're an entrepreneur.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I was in fashion design school. Yeah.
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That sounds like a tough space to penetrate.
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No, it's. It's. I love fashion, so, you know, I actually want to get back into it. Yeah. Do, like, a kids line. Yeah.
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Have you ever walked out of Fashion Week New York?
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No.
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Would you?
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Not right now.
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Okay.
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Look, I need to, like, get in shape a little bit more, maybe.
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It sounds like a bucket.
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Those girls are tiny.
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Yeah.
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And tall.
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The industry's changing that space. You need to be skinny tall.
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Yeah. You got to be like.
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Yeah, it doesn't. Look, I'm not trying to be mean, but it doesn't look entirely healthy with some of them. Yeah.
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I can see. Yeah. I mean, I feel like lately like, the. The standard has kind of changed with, like, beauty. You know what I mean? Not like how, like back in the days, like in the 90s when they're, you know, I feel like women are like, a little bit more voluptuous now, but. Yeah, I just, you know, I've never really been into, like, the whole modeling thing.
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B
Right. You never wanted to just become a model?
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No, I tried it and I didn't like it. I just don't like taking pictures.
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B
That's surprising.
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Yeah. Like, I'll take pictures because I have to take pictures for, like, my brands.
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Yeah.
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And my photographer will come over and we'll shoot for like 10 minutes. I'm like, do we get it? Okay, we're done. Do we get the shot? We're done.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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And is that like a self confidence thing or what do you think that is?
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No, I just don't like posing. It's just, you know, some people love it. I don't.
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I'm the same way. I didn't look in a mirror for like eight years. I'm not even kidding.
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You can be a model, though.
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Nah, you can't.
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You can be like an Abercrombie model.
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You think so?
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Yeah.
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I was so self conscious about my looks growing up.
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Yeah. You got clear skin, you're tall. You have nice hair.
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The Accutane helped. Yeah, that definitely helped. You should have seen me in high school. I pimples everywhere on my face.
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That's usually how it works.
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Yeah. Did you have acne growing up?
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No.
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Really? What? You got great genetics.
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Thank you. Are you part Asian?
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Yeah.
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You do?
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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What Asian are you?
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Filipino.
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Nice. I'm half Chinese.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Us half. These are rare. We got to stick together.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. That acne was terrible. How did you not get any? I'm like, super dumbfounded by that.
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I don't know.
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I haven't met many people like that. You must have a clean, like, good hygiene, everything.
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I don't. I never. I never wore makeup until I was like, 26.
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B
Mmm.
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A
You can get the most important meal of the day any time of day. I'm talking about the five dollar big.
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B
Deal breakfast meal from Jack in the.
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Box, available all day and all night. A breakfast Jack with a freshly cracked egg, a hash brown, and French toast sticks for five bucks. Sounds good.
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For breakfast, lunch and dinner at Jack.
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Every bite's a big deal. Order Jack's five dollar big deal breakfast meal now. Yeah.
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B
Wow. That's late.
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A
I know.
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B
Yeah. Because girls in high school just be.
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I know. Especially now.
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Yeah, right. Because of social media.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, I didn't get my makeup done till I was 26. I remember.
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So do you think that kind of helped?
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I feel like it did, but you know, I mean, I feel like if you have acne in high school, like you didn't wear makeup in high school and you still. Yeah, I try. Depends on the person.
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Yeah. No, one time I went in my mom's bathroom and put on some stuff.
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A
Did it work?
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No, I got called out immediately and yeah, I was embarrassed as honestly. Yeah. The things we do to hide our insecurities. Right.
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Yeah.
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But these days with social media, kids are ruthless.
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A
Yeah. Like, they are.
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B
Oh, man, I feel bad for kids these days.
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A
I know, I know. I feel, I get. I'm worried for like my kids, you know?
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Yeah.
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I was just having like an A discussion with my mother in law and my mother in law was like, you know, I just hope like they don't get bullied. I'm like, oh, that's not gonna happen.
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B
Yeah, that's inevitable.
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No, because I'm. Last year I was the room parent in my daughter's class.
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B
Room parent?
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A
Yes.
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B
What's up?
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Basically, the room parent is the middle person between the teacher and all of the parents. I'm like the contact.
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B
Okay.
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I'm the one who organizes everything. I send out emails and I'm just very hands on because I want to be able to keep an eye on what's going on and have a relationship with the other parents. You know, in case anything happens, I can just come to them directly and you know.
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B
Wow. So you're very passionate about your daughter's learning environment.
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A
Yeah, I am.
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B
That's cool.
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A
Yeah, they're everything to me.
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Yeah, it's very important, especially these days with the influence. It's. Yeah, you want to be very careful what they're listening to and watching and everything. Do you give them electronic devices?
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Oh, yeah, they love their iPad.
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B
Okay.
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A
They love their iPad.
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But do you like, monitor what they're watching on there?
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Yeah, to, to a point. You know, I, they, they do the kids YouTube, but they're. They're really good kids. They. Well, I let my daughter do like, she has a Snapchat. It's my Snapchat, but she likes the filters and stuff like that. But I noticed that she's starting just like a, just like feed. So sometimes I'll hear stuff and I'm like, I don't know about that.
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B
Oh yeah, those Snap videos, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen those. They talk A lot of gossip and stuff.
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A
Yeah. But it's like songs and stuff. But, you know, I don't want to be too, like, controlling because they're going to hear it anyway.
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B
Right, right. You can't go too helicopter because then they'll rebel.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Did you. Did that happen with you, with your parents? You rebelled a little bit?
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A
I did.
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B
Same with me.
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A
Yeah. I had a babysitter till I was like 13, dude.
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B
Same. Yeah, it was weird.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like a girl, like in high school was babysitting me in middle school. Like, that's just weird, you know? Yeah. Those. Was that your Asian parent that made you do that or.
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I had a babysitter from hell.
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B
Oh, yeah?
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A
Yeah. She used to lie on me.
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B
She said what?
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A
She used to lie and tell my mom. Like, I told her to shut up. And I'm like, I did not say that, but my mom would like, believe her.
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B
That's a shame.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Well, she's watching this.
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Well, she was really old at the time, so. Damn, she's watching.
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B
Yeah. Babysitters, man.
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A
Up there.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm not a fan of babysitters or down there.
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B
Yeah, babysitters are just, I think when you're, I don't know, 10, that you're. You're good on your own for the most part.
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A
I think 13.
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B
You think 13?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because 13 is middle school, right?
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A
Yeah. You had a babysitter picking me up from school and my mom would get off of work and pick me up from baby. Babysitter's house.
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B
Oh, you were at the babysitter's house. Oh, mine came to our house.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Damn, that's traumatizing. Sorry to hear that. So you have a cosmic mom. Yeah. Thanks, mom, for that. Weird ass babysitter. You got a cosmetics brand, Prella.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How's that doing?
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It's doing good. Yeah. I just launched my makeup palette, Color dream palette and yeah, it's doing really well.
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B
Nice. You got a lot of influencers backing it.
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A
No, actually I just, I just sell directly. Yeah. I haven't even like had a chance to like do like the promo packaging. I give it to like my friends and stuff like that. And I feel like it's more important to give it to like makeup artists.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, so I have a lot of celebrity makeup artists that are my friends that give it to them. They put it on their clients, take pictures, you know, smart.
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B
Word of mouth is the best form of marketing. If the product's great, it'll speak for itself.
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A
Yeah. But I feel like, like instead of giving it to influencers. You should give it to the makeup artists because they're the ones that are using it.
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B
Yeah, that's smart. People always try to go to the top straight away.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And these celebrities get pitched left and right. I'm sure you've seen it.
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A
Yeah. I feel like, for some reason, I feel like when celebrities post stuff, I feel like they're just getting paid for it.
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B
Yeah, for sure. So they're posting a random.
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A
Not gonna make me want to buy it.
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B
No, it's actually a turn off, usually. You also love animals.
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I love animals.
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B
How many animals do you own right now?
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I don't know. I have to count. I have to count.
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B
Wow. That many.
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I have three horses, two cats, two miniature Persian cats, two Frenchies, a Maltese, two dwarf hamsters. Dwarf hamsters, six chickens.
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B
I love that, by the way.
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Six chickens. And all the fish from Finding Nemo.
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Every single one. So the clown fish, the. The blue one.
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Just the clown fish, the blue one. And then I have the. The yellow one.
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B
Yeah, the yellow.
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But it's in purple, so it's the purple tang. Yeah.
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B
Wow, that's impressive.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So over 20 animals.
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A
Is that. Was that 20?
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B
If you count the fish? I guess. Yeah.
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A
Okay. Yeah.
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B
So it's almost like a mini sanctuary in a way.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That's my goal one day. Really have, like, acres of land. Just have, like 100 animals.
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A
Yeah. And I actually don't live in a community that allows chickens.
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B
Oh, so you just snitched on yourself.
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A
Well, they're not roosters, so they're not making any noise.
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B
Oh, that's the male ones, right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Do you eat the eggs?
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A
They haven't started laying eggs yet. So the three, Ricky, Nikki, and Kiki, they start laying eggs next month.
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B
Nice.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That's exciting. Yeah. Living off the lay of the land is a good feeling.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you saw with the hack, like that Internet hack where the grocery store shut down?
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A
No.
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B
Oh, you didn't see that? Like, a month ago, all the airlines shut down.
- [18:45]
A
What?
- [18:46]
B
Yeah. You didn't see this?
- [18:47]
A
No.
- [18:47]
B
Oh, wow. Basically, it's just good to have your own source of food and water these days, because the world could get crazy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You see all these.
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A
I don't care how crazy. Yes. I'm not killing my chickens.
- [18:57]
B
Yeah, well, at least eat their eggs. I mean, you know, but you see all these billionaires building bunkers.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Kind of interesting, right?
- [19:04]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
I wonder what's going on there.
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A
And now they have the. They have the, like, earthquake or survival kits at Costco. Right.
- [19:12]
B
Really?
- [19:13]
A
It's like.
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B
Oh, the meal kits. Right.
- [19:14]
A
It's like $100 or something for like, 20 years of food. Was it something crazy you did?
- [19:20]
B
Yeah.
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A
You bought it?
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B
I bought it. You never know, you know, Covid, people were out of toilet paper. They're saying monkeypox is coming.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
Who knows? You know? Better safe than sorry.
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A
I guess so. Yeah.
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B
Yeah. It's like a big blue container at Costco. I love Costco.
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A
I do, too.
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B
Is that your favorite place to shop?
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A
No, because I just go to the grocery store around the corner from my house.
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B
Whole Foods.
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A
Whole Foods and Ralph's.
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B
Okay, Ralph's.
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A
I get my fruit from Whole Foods and I get everything else from Ralph's.
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B
Fair enough. Fair enough. Do you like Erewhon in la, or do you think it's overhyped?
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A
I just went there for the first time.
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B
What? Yeah, I go there every time.
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A
Like two weeks ago. It's like a Ventura or something like that.
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B
There's a lot of them. Yeah.
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A
Oh, they have it here, too?
- [20:02]
B
No, there's a lot in la.
- [20:04]
A
Yeah. So I went there for the first time. I had a meeting there.
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B
A meeting at Erewhon?
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, like, outside in the sitting area.
- [20:12]
B
Oh, okay.
- [20:13]
A
And I was like, wow, what is this? It's crazy.
- [20:16]
B
Yeah.
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A
Because I'm franchising a bakery.
- [20:18]
B
Oh.
- [20:19]
A
Yeah. So I'm, like, looking for places to, like, open and places that, like, have a lot of foot traffic. And I was like, this would be amazing.
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B
Nice.
- [20:27]
A
Yeah.
- [20:27]
B
I'm a huge fan of bakery bakeries. I go to some out here.
- [20:30]
A
Yeah.
- [20:31]
B
Yeah. I love pastries. Oh, my gosh. French bakeries.
- [20:34]
A
Yeah.
- [20:34]
B
My week.
- [20:34]
A
So I'm doing a. I'm franchising a Southern style bakery.
- [20:39]
B
Whoa. I've never heard of that style.
- [20:41]
A
Exactly.
- [20:41]
B
Bakeries.
- [20:42]
A
Peach cobbler cupcakes.
- [20:45]
B
Oh, my God.
- [20:46]
A
Yeah.
- [20:46]
B
Do you like cheesecakes?
- [20:49]
A
I like a bite of it.
- [20:50]
B
Oh, you're not big on them.
- [20:51]
A
Yeah.
- [20:52]
B
Okay.
- [20:52]
A
But I'll take a bite.
- [20:53]
B
Floyd's old security guard, Adam Plant.
- [20:56]
A
Oh, I know him.
- [20:56]
B
Oh, you know him?
- [20:57]
A
Yeah.
- [20:57]
B
Yeah.
- [20:57]
A
He has a cheesecake business. Yeah.
- [20:59]
B
Have you tried them?
- [21:00]
A
No.
- [21:00]
B
Oh, my God. Please. Yes. I'm having a housewarming this week, and I'm literally buying. Like, they're that good.
- [21:08]
A
Yeah.
- [21:08]
B
Shout out to Adam.
- [21:09]
A
Shout out to Adam.
- [21:10]
B
Did you meet him when you were with.
- [21:11]
A
Where is this going?
- [21:13]
B
Smooth transition. Right. When is this bakery gonna open up?
- [21:20]
A
Hopefully by the beginning of next year.
- [21:23]
B
Okay.
- [21:23]
A
Yeah. Or the end of this year.
- [21:25]
B
In la?
- [21:26]
A
Yeah, in la.
- [21:26]
B
I can't wait to try it.
- [21:28]
A
So I think I'm gonna like do. Is this on? Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking about doing like a food truck first for like three months to like kind of scale where, like where it would do best and then figure out where I want to get the bakery.
- [21:46]
B
That's smart. Yeah. That way you're not tied to a physical location.
- [21:49]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [21:50]
B
You got to get Keith Lee to review the food truck.
- [21:52]
A
Yeah.
- [21:53]
B
He is so viral.
- [21:54]
A
Oh, really? Yeah.
- [21:55]
B
Have you seen him?
- [21:55]
A
I've seen him, yeah.
- [21:57]
B
Dude, anytime he goes somewhere, five hour line, next day. That's the power of social media these days.
- [22:02]
A
Oh, wow.
- [22:02]
B
Yeah, it's nuts. Do you even use TikTok?
- [22:04]
A
Actually, I don't have a Tick tock.
- [22:06]
B
Really?
- [22:06]
A
No.
- [22:07]
B
How come?
- [22:08]
A
I don't know. I just never, never called you to it.
- [22:11]
B
Yeah, it is for a younger crowd.
- [22:14]
A
And I just, I would. If I got Tick Tock, it would be more to like watch the Tick Tocks, not to do the Tick tocks.
- [22:19]
B
Right. Just study it as a consumer.
- [22:22]
A
Yeah. Just like, I mean, because my friends always send me stuff.
- [22:26]
B
Yeah.
- [22:26]
A
On Tick Tock to look at and.
- [22:27]
B
You can't even open it.
- [22:29]
A
Well, I can open it.
- [22:31]
B
Oh, it still plays.
- [22:31]
A
So yeah. It's like the Internet.
- [22:33]
B
Oh, the web player.
- [22:34]
A
Okay.
- [22:34]
B
Wow.
- [22:35]
A
That's it.
- [22:35]
B
You seem very calculated. Like you've seen them really do your research on everything.
- [22:40]
A
For the most part, yeah.
- [22:41]
B
That's really, really impressive. Honestly, some people just dive into businesses and then it fails, especially celebrities.
- [22:47]
A
Yeah. I actually was building a nail salon, a beauty bar on Melrose. I dove into it because the space was available at the time Ray had the scootie bike store.
- [23:01]
B
Yeah.
- [23:01]
A
Did you remember when he had the scootie bike store? Electric bikes?
- [23:04]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [23:05]
A
So he had the electric bikes and there was a space space open next door. So I got the space, paid the deposit and I was. It was a retail space and I was turning it into a salon. So I had to do all the plumbing and I had to get the permits and I had to like. The city would never approve the plumbing for two years. I built it. The rent was like 5,000amonth for two years.
- [23:33]
B
That's 60k a year.
- [23:34]
A
Yeah, I spent, I spent money on like custom, custom everything. Couldn't get my inspection passed so I had to cover it back up. And my lease was up in like 2 years. At 2 years my lease was up. So I put everything in the storage and I said, forget this, I'm turning this into A makeup brand.
- [23:53]
B
Holy crap.
- [23:54]
A
And that's how I came up with Pro Cosmetics.
- [23:56]
B
Well, everything happens for a reason.
- [23:58]
A
Nail them. Beauty Bar at first.
- [23:59]
B
Wow. Why were they so backed up? That's crazy.
- [24:02]
A
Well, I don't know. I heard that that's how they make their money. The city.
- [24:07]
B
Interesting.
- [24:08]
A
But it's like, really two years.
- [24:11]
B
Oh, so they want you to pay to expedite it?
- [24:13]
A
I don't know. I just. They would never. They would just keep saying, we'll come back, we'll come back, do this, do that. Yeah, need to do this. And then I would do everything that they told me to do, and they still wouldn't sign off.
- [24:25]
B
That's frustrating.
- [24:26]
A
So, yeah, by the time I didn't even want to extend my lease, I was just so ready to be over it.
- [24:30]
B
Yeah.
- [24:31]
A
Over with it. So, yeah, I said, I'm just gonna put this on pause and come back again later. Which I still am.
- [24:37]
B
Nice.
- [24:37]
A
Yeah.
- [24:38]
B
Once your kids are done with school in la, do you see yourself moving.
- [24:41]
A
Somewhere else once they're done with school?
- [24:44]
B
Yeah. Once they graduate.
- [24:46]
A
I don't know, because I don't want them to go to high school in la.
- [24:51]
B
Also, Even before you're thinking about.
- [24:53]
A
I feel like it's okay now because they're in elementary, but I'm not really fond of, like, the Hollywood influence, you know?
- [25:03]
B
Yeah.
- [25:03]
A
I feel like it's a little, like, fast pace. Even though I feel like, you know, if I just prepare my kids for it and just make sure I'm, like, completely honest and have a relationship with them, I feel like they'll be fine. But I kind of want them to, like, go to high school, like, down south.
- [25:21]
B
Down south, yeah.
- [25:22]
A
Because that's where I went to high school. And it's, you know, there it's like, it's cool to go to school. It's cool to, you know, be. Do sports.
- [25:31]
B
Yeah.
- [25:34]
A
You know, I just want them to enjoy being kids. I don't want them to grow up too fast, and I don't want them to go to school with, like, you know, celebrity kids or I just want them to, like, have normal childhood.
- [25:47]
B
Right. Because their friend group's super influential.
- [25:49]
A
Yeah.
- [25:50]
B
At that age. Yeah. Down south, there's a slower pace, more relaxed.
- [25:53]
A
Yeah, exactly.
- [25:54]
B
That makes sense to me. Yeah. I don't have kids yet, but I'm literally thinking about this stuff daily.
- [25:58]
A
Really?
- [25:58]
B
I don't know how to raise them. I'm 27.
- [26:00]
A
Okay.
- [26:00]
B
I want them around 30.
- [26:01]
A
Yeah. I had my daughter when I was 34.
- [26:03]
B
Okay. So you waited your whole 20s.
- [26:05]
A
Yeah, well, I waited till I got married.
- [26:07]
B
Okay. That's what we're doing, too.
- [26:08]
A
Yeah.
- [26:09]
B
Yeah. We're getting married next year.
- [26:10]
A
Yeah. There's no rush. When they're here, they're here, and that's. They're not going anywhere.
- [26:14]
B
No facts. But people feel rushed. Yeah, they do, because they see their friends and then. Oh, my turn.
- [26:20]
A
Yeah.
- [26:21]
B
And that's not how it should be.
- [26:22]
A
Yeah.
- [26:23]
B
Do you see that with a lot of women? Like, well, women are on a time clock, I guess, until, like, 40. Right. So.
- [26:27]
A
Well, I feel like. I felt like that when I was in my 20s. I'm like, oh. Like, I'm almost 30, you know? But I also, like, would pray a lot, and. And I'm like, when the time is right, it'll happen. Yeah.
- [26:47]
B
So you held out and you're happy with that decision.
- [26:49]
A
Yeah.
- [26:49]
B
Nice. See, that's great advice for these women watching this.
- [26:52]
A
Yeah. I mean, you have time. You're not. You know, don't be in a rush.
- [26:57]
B
Yeah. Because you can't really rush a relationship.
- [26:59]
A
Yeah.
- [27:00]
B
You know, some people try to force them and doesn't work out. Well, princess, it's been amazing. Anything you want to promote or close off with?
- [27:13]
A
I'll just make sure you watch Celebrity Poker tournament tomorrow, sir.
- [27:17]
B
We'll be live.
- [27:18]
A
Hopefully I get to the final table.
- [27:19]
B
We'll see. Good luck tomorrow.
- [27:21]
A
Thank you, sir. You're not playing.
- [27:22]
B
I'm not. I'll be doing it. What? Yeah, I played last time.
- [27:25]
A
Okay.
- [27:26]
B
Yeah, but this is my. My setting.
- [27:27]
A
Okay.
- [27:28]
B
Poker. Thanks for watching, guys. See you next time.