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Special Ops Veteran Speaks: Truth About Global Conflicts | Chad Robichaux DSH #744
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Join the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly as Special Ops veteran Chad Robichaux shares eye-opening insights about global conflicts! 🌍 Dive into the heart-pounding realities of evacuating civilians from combat zones and uncover the untold stories of
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Guys. We got Chad Rubber show here today. A crazy story and a new book coming out. Thanks for coming on, man.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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Yeah. Mission Without Borders. What's, what's the premise of this book?
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There's a couple angles for it. One is it's me and my son, who's a Marine as well, a combat vet. We have 84 years of service in our family. So we both, we both served in Afghanistan. I went to Afghanistan eight times as part of a JSOC task force and special operations, and he went to Afghanistan one time. So we served in the same war, but now we are doing humanitarian work. And I had to make the decision to take my son in the Russian invaded Ukraine in, in a war zone or, or bench him like I did during the Afghan evacs when he was involved in. And wow. So it's like the fear of control, of being a father to, you know, trusting him, trusting God and, and making a decision to take my son into combat with me. And so that's really what the book's about. The backstory is all the humanitarian rescue operations we did in Ukraine up. I went to Ukraine 10 times since the invasion. We. The big rescue was rescuing the Fox News reporter Benjamin hall, recovering the bodies of some of his teammates. And, and then, you know, just two years of going there and helping people that can't help themselves. And, and one of the big things about the book is, is we keep it away from the geopolitics of it because there so many, like, opinions about Ukraine.
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Yeah.
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And a lot. Yeah, a lot. And it's very confusing. You know, for me, I don't agree with the hundreds of billions of dollars we're sending Ukraine because it's a corrupt cesspool. So I don't agree with that. Personally, we got a lot of heat saying, like, hey, why would you go there? Ukraine's corrupt. And my response is that every politician, Zwinski down the line from history is this has corruption.
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Yeah.
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But we can't let our, our calluses towards that keep us from our compassion for people. And in Ukraine, man, you know, almost a million people have been killed because of not politicians or not soldiers, like women, children. And so we're there to help people. And I just won't let my, my political biases keep me from my compassion for people. And so that's a big part of what the book's about, is just good people standing up to do the right thing despite what governments do, and helping their fellow human in a time of need. Wow. You know, God's given me the ability to have, you know, 14 years of special operations, 30 years around the military and doing stuff like this, and go and help these people love us. That's what we did.
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Can't believe there's already a million. It's only a year, right?
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It's been February 24th of 2022, so.
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Two and a half years.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That's a million people. More than Afghanistan.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, I mean it's because you're, you're not talking about, you know, Taliban and you're talking about first world superpowers with ballistic missiles, like telephone poles being being shot in the side of apartment buildings, you know, going to a place like Kharkiv. When I went through Kharkiv, I remember driving in there, like pitch black. It's just eerie feeling and it's, and, and it felt apocalyptic. And one of the Ukrainians came over the radio and he said he welcomed the Kharkiv. The only thing that lives here is Will Smith and his dog. The movie I Am Legend, right? Like, and that's what it's like. It's just like you, you go, this is, you know, soldier and soldier. And a lot of people talk about Ukraine could turn into World War Three from my position. And I've really dealt in, you know, national, like national security and really Understand this is 30 years of my life. This is World War III. It's a proxy, it's a kind of modern day proxy war where you have, in Ukraine, you have 30 countries there. You have the United States, you know, the world superpower. You have Russia, Iran, China, North Korea, Ukraine itself. Like all these 30 countries are there fighting each other in this proxy war. So, you know, people will look at World War II, you know, we're at D Day today. That's kind of an honoring day at D Day. But you look at World War II and you look at, you know, people standing across the battle line from each other. This is, you know, 20, 24 wars are fought differently and these are proxy wars where you have U.S. equipment, U.S. dollars, China, Russia, Iran, like all fighting each other. And so to me, being there in frontline, this, this is a proxy World War iii. And it's very dangero political leaders let this go on when in fact they could end it in 24 hours. This thing could be over in 24 hours if the, you know, leaders of our world would stand up and say, no war crimes being committed, we need to call up a humanitarian ceasefire and come in, tend these civilians that are being killed and through war crimes. Yeah, and, and drawing a line in the sand. And that would be very easily done if the people that have the power to do it would have the courage to do it and, and desire to do it. A lot of them are making money off of this and it's a very profitable for people like President Zelensky and unfortunately people in our, you know, capital in Washington D.C. yeah.
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How are they making money?
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Well, I mean, this you're talking about again, hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Say hundreds, you know, between 100 and $200 billion that has been pumped there. And there's no congressional oversight.
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Billion.
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Billion, yeah. So there's no congressional oversight. So this money goes there and, and it goes in a black hole. You don't know what's being spent on how it's being spent. One of the, one, the country with some of the worst history of corruption in the world is Ukraine. And so, you know, president Zinsky is, is, is known for being part of this corruption and that's who we're sending the money to. Wow. So is there, you know, U. S. Politicians that get money through the back end of this? I, you know, without throwing stones at any names, I would say certainly, yes. And those are the, you know, it's our U. S. Congressional members and, and people in our white House that pulling the strings on this. And, and so those also so happen to be the people that could end this.
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Right.
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And so you have a very, uh, I think serious conflict of interest.
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And that money is our tax dollars, right?
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It's our tax dollars. Yeah, it's our tax dollars. And it's, and you know, it's not being used to fight a war. It's being used to allow innocent civilians. I mean, you know, people look at Ukraine and it feels so distant from us. Right. But when I drive to Ukraine and see pizza parlors and ice cream stores and in schools and playgrounds with level to the ground places just like you know, Urila in this community, neighborhoods like we have here, Ukraine is a very civilized like I wouldn't say it's a, it's first world country. I mean Kiev's a first world place and, and to go through that and see that. I've been, I've been in wars, I've been to 60 countries, I've been in wars my whole adult life. You know, spent eight deployments to Afghanistan. So I've seen carnage and war, but for me I've always seen it in places that are tribal and to go. But to go into a place like Kharkiv and Kiev and see first world places, like I said, you see a place that some, some kids had ice cream at last week.
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Yeah.
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Had a ballistic size missile the size of telephone pole flown in the side of it. For us to allow that in 2024 and, and not stop that is, is, is insane to me.
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That's crazy.
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We have the ability to stop it. Any, any politician that would say they don't have the ability to stop it is. Is lying to you. They do. There's a lot of incentive. You know, the industrial war complex on both in the military industrial war complex to profiteer off of wars is real. And that's not a, that's not a partisan statement, by the way. That's on the Republican side and Democrat side. People make money off of wars. And Afghanistan was pumping for 20 years. These people were, you know, making money off these major, you know, you look at the camp political campaigns, you know, Raytheon and Locky More, all these companies put money in these political campaigns for these people. And now the people that lobbying should be illegal to me, but they lobby these camp politicians to get in office. And now that comes around and these are the guys that make the decision to say, hey, we're going to continue in this war where there's contracts for billions of dollars to these companies or not. And it's, you know, and so there's a lot of benefit.
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Interesting. Afghanistan lasted 20 years.
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20 years.
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I didn't even know that.
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I thought I said you got two generations. You got me and my son.
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Holy crap.
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I was, I was, I first went to Afghanistan when my son was, you know, I first went to Afghanistan in 2003. My son was 7 years old. And then he ends up serving Afghanistan.
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So you believe Afghanistan was a mistake?
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I don't. I believe Iraq was a mistake.
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Oh, Iraq.
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I believe Iraq was a mistake. A lot of people kind of merge Iraq and Afghanistan because of the war on terror, but two very different things. I believe Afghanistan originally was the right intent. You know, if, if we would believe that, you know, there's lots of conspiracies around 9 11, but if we believe that, that 911 was an attack by, by Osama bin Laden on us and then it was justified to go and eradicate the, the Taliban from Afghanistan.
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Right.
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And in align with the Afghan people to, to fight for their oppression and freedom. And so that was a just war. And I participated that in eight deployments and special operations and, and, and I, by the way, I lost 15 friends during this time. So, so it's a heavy cost for me. So for me to say that that cost was worth it, I believe it was for the, not just America, for the world and our national security and the security of people around the world, including the Afghan people. And, and now I believe at some point during that 20 years, we should have, we should have declared the war on terror was a victory.
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Right?
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Probably President Trump should have declared that the war of victory because he had a window that he could have. And then, and I say that being, you know, someone that served as an advisor, as a national veterans policy advisor for President Trump, I do believe that it was a mistake that he didn't declare victory. He should declare the victory. And, and then we could have remained in Afghanistan just like we do around the world, as a support, to do a support and advisory role for the Afghan national army and Afghan National Police, because that's actually what we're doing. The entire international community in fact is working together, supporting Afghan national arm and the Afghan National Police because we didn't declare that we, the American people were lied to by the media, by politicians to say that we're in this 20 year war, this endless war that we need to radically pull out of Afghanistan. And, and then President Biden in, in 2021 made the decision to pull out of Afghanistan. This is the most strategic place in the globe between Iraq, Iran, Russia and China. And to say that we had to pull out of this war when we had 2500 troops there is insane. We still have 80, 000 troops in Japan since World War II.
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Holy crap.
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40 in Germany, 35,000 troops in South Korea on that 38th parallel to keep the North Koreans from coming over. So having American troops in these places don't keep us in war. It actually prevents wars. Wow. And so to move 2500 troops out of Afghanistan to say it was man that I can name 12 places right now that we have 2500 troops around the world. So why Afghanistan? Because it, it benefited a lot of our enemies and a lot of political interests. China was the main beneficiary. They, when we moved out, they, they earned all the mineral rights in Hindu Kush Mountains, Lithium, trillions of dollars, probably unlimited amount of dollars.
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Damn.
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They were able to move sanctioned oil from Iran into China. So there's a lot of reasons that the White House would have been pressured by foreign influence to move US Troops out of Afghanistan. And the cost of that was American lives, leaving our allies behind, giving up the most strategic place on the globe. And the, and the cost of the 40 million Afghan civilians and 20 million women's and little girls that are now sex sexually enslaved. And in this book, this other book here, saving a was when that happened, I made a decision to Go back and get my interpreter who's my friend. Of eight deployments, we worked in a two man team together in special operations. And to go back and get my, his wife, him and his wife and six children. I put together a small special operations team to do that. And honestly that, that led to just absolute miracle that we were able to not only rescue him and his family, but we rescued 17,000 people.
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Holy crap.
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From there. And so this book actually is being made into a motion picture film.
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That's incredible. So you went rogue. You, you assembled your own team and went back.
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Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't say it's rogue, but it's definitely kind of fun way to say it. I, I mean, look, a lot of, a lot of special operations veterans do humanitarian work around the world that the government won't do. Right. Either can't do or won't do. And, and we do everything. The reason I would say it's not rogue is because everything I do is, is coordinated through and I still do things today I've got operations going all over the world. When we do it, we, I communicate directly with Special Operations Command, Joint Special Operations Command. The Pentagon got it. To let them know what we. Because last thing I want to do is somebody that did my job before is going on the same target as me. And we, we have a. So we need to deconflict things.
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Right.
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So it's very much coordinated. But, but there's a, you know, humanitarian, not, you know, you have the government organization which is the DoD and the Central Intelligence Agency or government organizations and you have NGOs, non government organizations, which are non profits. And so I've, I've stood up and led several non profits, you know, save our allies was this. And then a fourth option is another one that I do. You know, government has three options. The options are diplomacy, military action, covert action. A fourth option would be someone like me who's out working alongside the government to make, you know, these kind of rescues happen. So, so that we worked directly with the Joint Chiefs to get permission to go in Afghanistan, be in the airport. Now I had to get permission to bring people out of the country. I needed another country to bring people to. I got the, the country of the United Arab Emirates. The royal family worked with us and Dubai. Dubai, yeah. Amazing. Amazing. The royal family was amazing to us. Let us bring people to their humanitarian city and that's. They gave us permission to move people because if you don't, if you move people from one country to the next without visas or permission, you're Human trafficking people. So you have to have those permissions in place. Very complex and complicated. And then within three days, I, I realized that this could be not a. I wouldn't have to raise money for like a couple hundred thousand. It would be millions of dollars. And.
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Yeah.
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And. And a man named Glenn Back who's, you know, like you a radio show host, use his microphone to get on and ask for help. And he thought he raised a few thousand dollars. Well, he ended up raising total of $46 million. Holy 2021 in three days. And he didn't know what to do with it. And he called me and knew I was involved in. I just raised all this money, what I do with it. And I'm like, I know. Exactly. So we had charter planes and those planes were like 800. $800,000 is expensive. Yeah. So. So we. Yeah. And then we. That we know all that led to us, you know, moving 17,000 people out. In addition to that, myself. And the second half of the book is myself and Dennis Price going into Tajikistan and swimming in Afghanistan every night for 10 days to help women in swimming. Yeah. The Panjir river is the border.
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Holy.
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So you have the Taliban there, the Chinese military, the, the Russian military protecting that border. And we got, you know, all the women and children trying to get out of Afghanistan. They don't know how. I mean, one Afghan women don't swim. Right. Most have never even been a bathtub before my swim. And. And they either have a baby in their belly or baby in their hands. That's just culturally. And now they have to cross the Pan river, which is like 20, 25,000 foot mountain peaks, a white water rapid river that's freezing cold. And so. And you got Taliban, Chinese, China military there, you got the Russian military, the chican border guard there. They don't know how to cross a word across. So we spent 10 days in there going in, assessing routes, building routes and putting plans together to get these women and children across.
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Incredible.
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And yeah, it's kind of how the book, what a story because you went.
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To Afghanistan to fight and you end up saving the locals and 17,000 bucks.
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I mean, my heart when I went to Afghanistan to fight, it was, you know, to fight the Taliban, not the, not the Afghan people. In fact, my heart after one deployment there was probably more focused on the oppression of Afghan people. And it was for the national security, United States.
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Wow.
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I fell in love with these people, the culture and, and really had a burdened heart for what they experienced. The, the grotesque, like sexual molestation. Of children by the Taliban and, and the things like that and, and the oppression of these women. And so I was very proud that my time in Afghanistan was helping to little girls go to become doctors and, and teachers and, and, and whoever they want to be. And, and being part of giving that to the afghan people for 20 years. You know, it's a shame that that's going away now. And, and so, you know, I wanted to help get as many of them out of there as I can. And I'm still working on it now. So we had. Yes, it didn't stop at 17, 000 people. That was, you know, three years ago now. And I'm still, I'm still working on getting as beautiful as many people still.
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Like that over there right now.
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Taliban still running it or Taliban? Taliban's running it. China. China has our probably $80 billion in U.S. equipment that we left behind.
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Holy crap.
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We. I still know that there's us Americans that, that are still left behind there.
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Oh, they didn't, they didn't evacuate all 2500.
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No, that was 2500 troops. But you're talking, you were talking thousands of American Americans. Probably 20, 000Americans that we left behind. We evacuated, we closed our military base and, and we evacuated our military before we evacuated our civilians and we closed our, our military air, our military air base and moved to a civilian air extract through the Afghan local airport. It was insane. It was, it was handled. We. And, and so there was no plan in place to evacuate our Americans. So Americans were left behind.
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Oh my God.
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And. Which is unacceptable under any administration, by the way. I don't know the base, your audience.
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Was that under Trump or Biden?
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That was under President Biden. Okay, yeah, yeah, I said I know your base and heavy.
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Right, yeah.
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I'll say it it to me, it doesn't matter like I mean it wouldn't matter who's in office that you just don't do that. Now Now President Trump, A lot of people have kind of nail President Trump and say well President Trump initiated the, the Doha agreement which is the agreement with the Taliban. But look, President Trump would have never forfeited bank of Air Force base. He would have handed it over to international community and, and he would have, he would have not allowed the Taliban to take over. In a way they did. It was, it was, it was, it was set up in a different way. President Biden completely forfeited everything and he took the NEO operation, which is non combatant evacuation operation away from my military and gave it to the State Department, which is. It's very complex again, what that means, but what that means is the. The military is responsible for evacuating civilians out of a combat zone. That's what they do. Not the State Department because of the politics behind it and him not being able to control the Department of Defense. He gave it to the State Department. And Secretary Blinkin treated the. The evacuation like an embassy. And it costs lives, including. Cost 13 of our service members lives. At abigate. That. That suicide bomber that. That hit navigate and killed 13 of our service members. 170 civilians and injured 100 mores. That guy was someone that. That our military was forced by our White House to let out of prison a week before. Yeah.
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And he ended up being a suicide bomber.
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He'd be a suicide bomb. We knew that. Anybody would have knew that. This is guys. A combatant that we. That we. We arrested and we let him go before our people were out. Right.
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Oh, my God.
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And they hid that for three years. It just came out. They hit it.
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Oh, it just came out.
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They hit it for three years.
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So there was a lot of suicide bombers in Afghanistan.
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Yeah. I mean, that's. That's. Is one of the things that. One of the strategies Taliban do is they take these young boys that are usually uneducated and they manipulate them into believing they're doing it for their family, they're doing it for God. Wow.
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And I thought that was Japanese. I didn't know they were doing it too.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. It's, you know, in Afghanistan, it's. It's terrific. It's terrific to fight something like that. To. To know that you could be standing anywhere and somebody could just walk up to you and clack off a suicide vest.
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And that's nuts. And you don't even see it because they're probably wearing.
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Yeah. If you're in a crowded city, they're gonna dress like they're getting the burqa. Look like a woman.
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Yeah.
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And. And so. So, you know, they have a suicide vest underneath it. Holy things our troops faced.
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And how big is the radius on those?
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It depends. But I mean. Yeah. I mean, usually like just a suicide vest. If you were within. If you're within 50 yards of a suicide vest, like everybody in that damn.
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50 yards. That's pretty big. That's half the football field.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh, my gosh. It's terrible, man.
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You're gonna either be killed or seriously injured.
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And you were with your son in Afghanistan, or was that Ukraine?
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It was Ukraine. Oh, my son was involved in Afghan evacs. But we kept him in Dubai.
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Got it.
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And so that was kind of a build up, right? We kept him in Dubai.
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You wanted him safe and.
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Safe, yeah. And he's like, hey, I had an interpreter too. I was in Afghanistan. I'm like, yeah, great, you're part of it. But. And then we get in a Ukraine and he's participating, he's highly valuable because he's so good with like some of the communications and tech stuff because he's, he's like, you know, young, young. He's 28 years old and he's, he's in. So he, so he's like proving his worth to the team. And we did rescue Benjamin Hall. Benjamin hall, the Fox News reporter, when it's catastrophically wounded. And they were like, the Pentagon actually asked us to go, to go get him because the US Military is not allowed in Ukraine. And in including our, all of our tier one special operations units. And the CIA, when not the White House not allowed them to go to Ukraine. So we're like, hey, we're all sitting in a safe house. And in Krakow, Poland, we had just got all of our assets in place to be able to go anywhere we needed to in Ukraine, like literally like within two hours we had that. We had had the capability. And Sea Spray, who's a good buddy of mine, he kind of running our operations there. He, he got a phone call. We're all just having fun in the house, talking and eating. And he's like, you tell us on a serious call, he put his hand up, everybody be quiet. And then when he got off the phone, he's like, hey, Fox News reporter Benjamin hall and his team were just hit, hit in Kiev. Russia was trying to take Kiev at that time. So Kiev we thought was going to fall. And like his team was killed. Pierre is his 25 year cameraman of Fox News. Sasha, the Ukrainian correspondent, the security team was all killed. Like, Benjamin Hall's alive. They don't know how long he's gonna live. But he has a wife and two little girls at home. And if we don't go get him right now, no one is that he's gonna die. Like, who's in? And everybody in the house raised their hand holy. Including my son. And so there was nine of us in the house, including, by the way, all special, special operations guys except one guy, Adam Laroche, who's a baseball player. He just happened to be in the house, like coming to meet us for dinner. And so, so we, we drug him out with us.
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Oh, you Brought him.
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We brought him with us. Yeah. We're like, hey, we need everybody we can. And. But my son. My son and another guy, like the ones that were chosen to stay back and run our operate because you got to have somebody back on the back end monitoring our. Our movement and all the intelligence and coordinating stuff. So. So he got. He got benched on that Benjamin hall rescue. And he was. He was pretty sour about it. I don't blame him. And we rescued Benjamin hall, got him to the US Military, and then we. We went back and recovered Pierre's body. Actually drove Pierre's body out himself, myself. We weren't going to go back, and because we thought Kiev was following it, we're gonna go back and get a body.
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Yeah.
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And I wasn't gonna put the team in that jeopardy, but then Pierre's wife came into Poland and was like, I want to see my husband. And we're like, we're like, yes, ma'am, we're gonna go get him. And so we. I drove his body out and. But, you know, that. That point after that, after the operation, my son was. I could tell my son was, like, really struggling, and I really just had this. This dilemma that I had to make a decision, like, am I gonna allow my. My fear, my control as a father, keep my son from doing things that I believe that God has burned his heart to do? And. And that was a real dilemma because I want to protect him, want to keep him safe. He's my son. Like, yeah, he's 20 something years old. He's a combat veteran. He's got experience. He's really good at what he does. But, you know, I have a responsibility to protect him. And I came to this conclusion through mentorship and wisdom of other people. That man. I love my son, but God loves him way more than me. I could protect my son, but God could protect him more than I ever can, whether he's on his couch in Houston or. Or in a war zone in Russia. And, you know, and I. I should never be someone that blockades the burdens of someone's heart to do what they want to do for others. And even if it's my son, and because I know my heart's always been that way, like, if I want to go help somebody and do something, I feel like those doors are open to do it. I'm gonna go do it. So I didn't want to be that blockade for him, so I had to make a decision to let him participate. And so the first trip I drove, he and I drove across the border in Ukraine and went do operation the two of us. It was kind of low level just to me to like look at test. It's more for me, more for me than for him, you know, and, and then I was like, you know what? I'm good. And, and every time he's went out and, and the book starts. If you read the prologue of the book, the book starts in a pretty dark place. Like I'm in a zoom. And me and, me and seaspray are going. We went to identify some mass graves and, and rescue a marine that was that a U. S. Marine that went volunteer with Ukraine's. He's been shot and captured. So we're going, me and seaspay going to do that. And we get caught in the, in this town called a zoom. The Russians had for six months and the Ukraine's just liberated. So we went in there and then the Russians closed the line behind us. And so we're caught in this major battle, uniform on uniform, you know, high tech damn weaponry and high tech weaponry. MIGs flying over us, dropping bombs on Ukrainian soldiers. They're shooting with bombs, are hitting IDF indirect fires hitting within 100 yards of us. Like, it's pretty chaotic, probably some of the most chaotic things I've ever seen. And in two hours away from us in a. In a town called Bakmut, my son Hunter is, is delivering supplies to Ukrainian troops and they get hit. So simultaneously I'm on the radio with him and I'm like, hey, we're taking indirect fire. And I could hear on the other side his. That's. That's kind of how we started the book off like. And then, you know, and then it kind of goes back to how do we get there? How do you get to where we're both at the same time, Two hours away from each other, two hours behind Russian lines, you know, in this, in this scenario. And, and so the book really shares that journey.
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B
That's pretty nuts.
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A
Yeah.
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B
When he first told you he wanted to join the military, what was your reaction?
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A
My family has 84 years of service, you know, World War II, I'm told, I'm told now my son's going back into Ancestry.com so I'm told World War I, but World War II, Korea. My father was the first Marine in our families as infantryman in Vietnam. And then, you know, I went marine special operations and did eight diplomas Afghanistan. So he grew up around special operations guys, you know, from the task force. I was on a lot of seals and recon marines he grew up around that and he's always been, he's a wrestler and you know, he's athlete his whole life and, and I'm a big Brazilian jiu jitsu guy, I'm a 4th degree black belt Brazilian Jitsu and did 20 professional MMA fights. So he like, he's been around that kind of lifestyle and so it was no surprise that, you know, he had always wanted to do it, that he would join the Marines at 17 just like I did and my dad did too. And so when he did, I was super excited for him. I helped him pick the job he would do because I'm kind of knowing him what I thought would fit best. And we had picked Anglico, which is an air, never gunfire liaison company, work with a lot of foreign militaries and embed with them. And when he went to, so when he went to Afghanistan, he didn't go as like a traditional US military unit. He was, his little four man INO team was embedded with the Georgian, the country of Georgia, their infantry.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And so to call in U.S. air support for them, that was his job. And so I was super excited. But when he went to Afghanistan, then it hit me, the reality of it hit me knowing I buried friends there and knowing that environment and knowing my son could be. So I really had a struggle, big struggle. And I talk about a lot in this book. When he was in Afghanistan, deployed, he came home and I'm like, my son's home safe. That's it. Never have to deal with that again. And then he, you know, he pursues the, the path I'm on in humanitarian side of things. And so I did have to deal with it again and a lot more close to home, but being him being on my team and going out on operations that I had control over. And so yeah, it's a very unique environment. Hopefully not left. Others have to deal with that. But whether you deal with that in combat or life, like I think as fathers or people that have loved ones. Right. You don't have to just be a father over a son. Like people that have loved ones, you always want to control, as most men do. We want to control people's lives. We want to keep people safe, that people care about safe.
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B
Right.
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A
And sometimes it becomes there's a line that we cross and, and we, we allow fear and control to, to, to cross a line and, and, and, and, and interfere with people's success and, and, and ultimately, you know, their giftings and talents and things they're called to do.
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B
Yeah, you said the Weapons in Ukraine were very advanced. How does the style of combat differ from Afghanistan?
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A
Well, I mean, in Afghanistan you're dealing with old Russian AK47s and RPGs and you know, you know, thing is, thing that scared me worse was a, you know, a PKM, which is a, you know, heavy machine gun, a 7.62 caliber machine gun mounted on top of a truck or something like that. That's, that's the kind of things that I worry about most in Afghanistan.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Ied, you know, improvised explosion device Buried in a road or in, in a vehicle being driven into you. Now you go into Ukraine and you got a MiG. They have air, they have air superiority everywhere. In Afghanistan we had air super. We had the air. Okay, now you got a MiG fighter jet flying over you, dropping bombs.
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B
Holy crap.
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A
You have a ballistic missile flying, flying from, you know, a couple of hundred miles away. Like I said, the size of a telephone pole, flying in the side of a building. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, everywhere. Like, I got tons of videos I can show you. Like, it's insane. Like, so this isn't, you're not talking about the Taliban. You're talking about like first world, you know, ballistic missiles, modern, you know, modern day at the highest level of warfare.
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B
Yeah. And I mean, do you see drone strikes?
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A
Drone strikes, I mean, on both sides, by the way, you know, so it's not just like the Russians. Now you have Ukrainian fighting back. Oh, wow. So. So I mean, this is like high tech country. On country warfare. I mean, Afghan, we never, A lot of people get confused that aren't really familiar with warfare. Like United States didn't fight, at least at the end, it wouldn't fight Iraq. They were fighting insurgents. The United States wasn't fighting Afghanistan. We're fighting the Taliban, you know, a tribal terrorist organization.
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B
Right.
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A
So they have some sophistication, some autumn warfare in Iraq. You have Iran, you know, Iran by proxy, fighting with it as insurgents. They're. But you're not fighting like, I mean, you're fighting the Russian military.
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B
Yeah, it, the stakes are higher.
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A
It's different. Yeah.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That is nuts. Yeah. It pretty much sounds like World War iii. They just won't admit it.
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A
On no one. By proxy it is. You know, and you know, no one wants to admit that, but that's what, that's what we're really facing right now.
- [30:57]
B
Do you see it bleeding over to other countries or.
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A
I mean, man, look, you go, you go into Poland and they're, they're terrified. They are the, they are the border of the United Nations. And. And, you know, if. If Ukraine falls now, the border is Poland. And look what. You know, quick. You know, it doesn't seem. It seems like a long time ago to you. And I especially you, you know, your age and your generation, but wasn't that long ago that Poland experienced that in World War II and the Germans took, you know, invaded Poland. And so people there remember that.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And people. And people that relate to that. So you. I mean, I. I remember, like, sitting down and this lady's talking to me, and she knew us from America and this older lady, and she's like, if Ukraine fall. If Ukraine falls, America's not there helping Ukraine. If Ukraine falls, will America help us in Poland to keep. Because Putin won't stop. I mean, you know, he'll always want more. I mean, that's what narcissists, evil narcissistic leaders do. And hey, look, people see Putin and they're like, there's a lot of appealing qualities. I mean, he's for the type of personality I am. He's a pretty appealing guy. He's a strong leader. Not gonna take crap from anyone. No. Monsanto. Monsanto and controlling seeds won't be there. Like, he won't allow f. Food. He won't allow people to. Like, there's some things. But he is an evil human being who doesn't care about human life.
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B
Wow.
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A
And he wants power and he's. He's narcissistic. He wants power and he will destroy any. Anyone and anything to. To get power. And. And he has to be stopped. Now, I'm not saying that America, that the United States should go to war with. With Russia. What I'm saying is that United States is a leader of the free world, demands the UN to call a humanitarian ceasefire, ends the war in Ukraine based on very valid things. You know, President Biden at any moment could say, it's enough. Like you're using. Using ballistic missiles against civilians, using chemical weapons. And I could validate that chemical personally. Personally? Yeah, I could personally validate chemical weapons on civilians.
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B
How does that work? It's like a gas or.
- [32:50]
A
Yeah, like a gas, like a nerve agent or something like that on civilians. Not to be. It's not even allowed to be used in the military, by the way. But not. But especially not on civilians. Right. So there's mass graves that I personally have. Have not only witnessed, but went there to witness mass. Because we don't. We don't want to trust the Ukrainians because they're getting a lot of money. So if the Ukraine says mass graves, and we don't want to take their word for it, so I went and personally documented mass graves. There's enough evidence for the President, United States in. In the UN to say, or NATO city, un, NATO to say. There needs to be humanitarian ceasefire. We have to draw a line somewhere. And there will be no more fighting in the u. In the, in the United nations and NATO are going to come in and care for these women and children who are not combatants. And, and when that would be established, Putin would. Somewhere in there, somewhere in the eastern front of Ukraine would be a line that would be drawn in the sand. And as long as that, that, that NATO force that was there, which should. Should include United States not going there to fight to do the humanitarian aid, that data force should be there that prevents Putin from coming across whatever that line is. The reason why is this thing called Article 5. In Article 5 is something that Putin will never want to violate. He's. He's crazy. He's insane and he's evil, but he's not stupid.
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B
What's Article 5?
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A
And Article 5 means that if you even indiscriminately wound a NATO soldier in a. In a. Especially in this humanitarian. So it is active war from the entire. Entire United nations has to act. Is obligated to act against that oppressor.
- [34:27]
B
So that would wipe them out.
- [34:29]
A
The whole world would. The whole world would be obligated to respond. Well, I said whole world. The United nations world. The whole world would be obligated to respond to Russia.
- [34:38]
B
Yeah. UN's, all the biggest countries, though, so.
- [34:40]
A
Right, exactly. So. So Putin would know not to do that. So that's when I say this could be over in 24 hours. And you have heard President Trump have said that before as well. And people think he's, you know, he.
- [34:48]
B
Wants to end it being.
- [34:49]
A
Being. Yeah, he thinks that. People think he's being egotistical by saying that, but. No, he's saying that based on. I would. I would assume the same premise that I'm saying, like, humanitarian ceasefire.
- [34:57]
B
He wants to end the Israel one too.
- [34:59]
A
Yeah, of course. Yeah. I mean, look, everybody. Everybody called him a warmonger. Everybody said he was gonna start World War iii. He's the only president in the last, you know, in the, In. In my lifetime that has been in the presidency that has not started any new wars.
- [35:12]
B
Wow.
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A
The only president.
- [35:13]
B
That's great. Your whole lifetime.
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A
My whole lifetime.
- [35:15]
B
Damn.
- [35:15]
A
I mean, you know, both Bushes, Obama.
- [35:22]
B
Yeah.
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A
Biden now, you know. Yeah.
- [35:25]
B
That's 20 years right there.
- [35:26]
A
Right? Yeah, yeah. Both pushes talking 30 years.
- [35:29]
B
Oh, eight each.
- [35:29]
A
Yeah, yeah. Clinton. Clinton, Right. Bill Clinton. So all these presidents have started wars. President Trump's the only one that hasn't. So people call him a warmonger. You cannot like him. Right. But if, but let's just get. The facts are there, right? You call them whatever you want. He's the only president that has, that has not started the war. And in fact, this de escalator ended or ended wars. Obliterated. Obliterated. ISIS shut down the Taliban during his time. ISIS and the Taliban were, were done. It didn't reignite until he left office.
- [36:00]
B
Wow. Which is crazy because everyone thought he would start wars. He was the only one who did it.
- [36:04]
A
He's the only did it. You could not like him if you want, but you could also look at the facts. You could put, put the, put the, whatever bias you have towards him aside and just look at the facts and it's there. You can't, you can't debate it.
- [36:15]
B
You can.
- [36:15]
A
It's not debate. It's. It's. That's, that's.
- [36:17]
B
And that's why you got to be careful with the media and how it portrays certain people and they try to vilify certain people as well.
- [36:24]
A
Sure, yeah. Because, you know, unfortunately, most of our mainstream, not most, probably all of our mainstream media is, is bought and paid for by, you know, the World Economic Forum and globalists who want to destroy America. They have to take America out. America has to be gone. Why do they want. What's that?
- [36:43]
B
Why do they want to destroy America, you think?
- [36:45]
A
Well, I mean, in order for globalism to exist, and I want world government to exist, the last standing thing against that is America.
- [36:51]
B
Wow.
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A
And so you have to destroy America to do that. And that's why. Why would George Soros. Why would people outside the United States be investing billions of dollars into, into controlling the education system in the universities in America? Why would people from outside our country be. Care about the, you know, who's in our Supreme Courts? Why would they care about who's in our White House? Right. Why would they care about what's said on American media? Because it's all a very deliberate attempt to destroy this country. Because this country stands in a way of a world, a one world government. And, and that sounds like crazy conspiracy theory, but no, it's not. Just put your, put your, you know, again, put your biases and opinions aside and just don't trust me, but please don't trust me. Definitely don't trust the Mainstream media, just research for yourself. This stuff. This stuff is pretty easy to find if you just research your research yourself.
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B
That mean there's great podcast exposing it, like Sha Ryan, few others.
- [37:41]
A
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I talk a lot about this stuff on my podcast and on the. The Resan show and. And. And, yeah, I was just. Watch Sean Ryan. Sean Ryan's great voice in it. But that's why I love, like, shows like this. And podcasts. Podcasts are so important because no. No one's controlling, which.
- [37:55]
B
Yeah. No sponsors, no platforms. I'm on my own. And, dude, the World Economic Forum came to one of my events and tried recruiting me.
- [38:03]
A
Yeah, scary, right?
- [38:04]
B
And if I wasn't educated, yeah, I would have probably taken it, but because I knew about it, I was like, what the hell? This is weird.
- [38:10]
A
Whatever. Endless pot of money.
- [38:12]
B
And, yeah, they all flew out, like, eight guys to my event in Vegas, and I was like, this is.
- [38:17]
A
Well, you're a prime target. Your. Your age, your voice, your platform. I mean, that's who they're gonna go after.
- [38:22]
B
Yeah.
- [38:22]
A
Because they want your voice.
- [38:23]
B
They offered to fly me out and all this to, like, some random place. It was weird, dude.
- [38:27]
A
Yeah. Price of island.
- [38:28]
B
Yeah. Epstein Island.
- [38:30]
A
Some little kids or something. Yeah. It's scary, man, what your flavor is. And. And then.
- [38:34]
B
Yeah.
- [38:34]
A
Compromise you and happened. I mean, we joke about it right now, but it's happened to a lot of people. Like, they've been. They've been compromised, and once they're compromised, they own a lot of celebrities.
- [38:41]
B
Right.
- [38:42]
A
You have celebrities and people with voices and. And people in political positions, and they.
- [38:46]
B
You know, I think I'm good because they'll never be able to sway me with money. But if they start doing threats, then I'm gonna have to call you up and get you to help me out.
- [38:55]
A
Me and a bunch of my friends.
- [38:57]
B
Yeah. No, it's sad, though. You see a lot of these big people selling their souls or selling out for money and then pushing agendas they don't care about. Like, a good example is the Rock right now. I mean, he. You could see he kind of regrets it.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Because he did. He kind of. He. He. During the last election, he was Democrat, got behind Biden and Kamala, and I think. I think he's a good. I think he's a great human, and I think he loves America. And I don't know why he did.
- [39:19]
B
It, but I think money, probably.
- [39:21]
A
He's regretting it now. Yeah.
- [39:22]
B
Yeah. I mean, you could just see him on Rogan just every Answer was like a bot answer. Yeah. Like he couldn't give his own opinion.
- [39:28]
A
No. Yeah, it's. Yeah. And it happens to so many people. I think they just get, you know, they get sucked in and they bought it. They jump on these. They jump on these, you know, kind of mainstream, you know, biases without really educating themselves on what's underneath it. It's so easy to hate President Trump because of everything you've heard. Yeah. And people are like, yeah. But, you know, they, they, they give some. It's like, no, there's no butt, man. This guy, look, is he kind of a egotistical maniac dude? Of course he is. He's been a billionaire for a long time. He's been in power. And I mean, most people that have been billionaires are a bit narcissistic. A little bit. Right. But he loves America. You can't, you can't argue that. The man loves, Loves his country. And he's not part of the political system, and that's why they hate him.
- [40:15]
B
Right.
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A
He's not part of politics system. He's not part of the agenda, and he's not going to play by the rules, and he cares more about the people than he does about the government. And, and people have lost that. People have lost the fact that these elected politicians are not leaders. We call them leaders. They're not leaders. They're the constituents. Send them to represent their representatives. They represent the people.
- [40:38]
B
Yeah.
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A
And this government was established to, to represent the people. And it's, you know, for the people, by the people. It's. And people have forgot that President Biden, Donald Trump, George Bush, Bill Clinton, whoever's in an office, he's not. And he's not in control of us or in charge of us. They're there to work for us and represent us. And if people could just get back to that, then they would understand someone like President Trump who's there to, like, stand in the gap for 100 people.
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B
But there was just so much programming.
- [41:09]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [41:09]
B
It's too far gone.
- [41:10]
A
Yeah. I mean, they were. And they did a really good job at it. Made him easy to hate.
- [41:13]
B
They got a lot of my friends at first, but then people started realizing, what the hell.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like it's programmed.
- [41:18]
A
Yeah.
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B
How did you feel about the government agencies turning on him? As someone who's probably worked with some of these agencies, man, that's probably the.
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A
Most heartbreaking thing for me because, you know, most of my life has been in service, you know, from 17 years old till now. I'm 48 years old now, so 31 years of my life has been in service to our government, our country. And, and to see some of these institutions that I, that I have grown up respecting, including the Department of Defense and Central Intelligence Agency, the FBI, that have grown up respecting them and trusting my life and the lives of my friends with them, and trusting the lives of my, you know, my people, the American people with them, that not only has it been compromised, but it's been weaponized politically and weaponized against the American people.
- [42:04]
B
Wow.
- [42:04]
A
And, and that's terrifying to me. And, and I mean that in a way that's like I haven't been able to reconcile. That's terrifying to me.
- [42:12]
B
Yeah.
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A
And, and it's, and it's, it's really saddens me because, you know, I've had friends that have given their lives voluntarily, you know, sacrifice their lives for this country and, and believing the government institutions in this country and, you know, political leaders that have, you know, self agendas and, and agendas that aren't in the best interest of the United States, you know, have compromised. And, and you know what I believe. And, and I, I hope if President Trump gets back in office that he will clean out clean house in these organizations. And, you know, some of them, some of these organizations unfortunately, probably have to go, wow. And be completely gutted from the bottom up. It's that bad.
- [42:48]
B
That's what VC said he wants the FBI gone, CIA gone, all that. Right.
- [42:52]
A
It's that bad. That has to be from the bottom up. Gut it. Got it. I'm not, I mean, look, I know a lot of, I have a lot of friends that serve in the FBI. The bottom, the bottom half of the FBI is patriotic men and women who love our country and want to do the right thing for our country. Somewhere in that upper 50. I don't know where that line is, there's a shift to the people that lead the organization that have been. People that have been compromised all on one side by the left. And so if you're in the left or right and you're listening to this like in Democratic, Republican, if, if you look at something like that unbiasedly and say if everybody is compromising, is compromising to one side, then that side's probably inherently bad.
- [43:30]
B
That's strange. Yeah.
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A
Right. If you had people compromising to. Some people compromise and they're playing political favors to the right, and some people compromise and playing political favors to the left, that's just real world. That makes sense. Right. You're gonna have people that do that. But when all the compromise side.
- [43:45]
B
Yeah.
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A
That should be terrifying for any side. And, and you should realize that that size probably bad.
- [43:50]
B
Well, the money is probably better on that side because they're in bed with big companies. Sure.
- [43:54]
A
Yeah.
- [43:54]
B
All the big companies that run the country. Oh, big pharma.
- [43:57]
A
Big globalist countries too.
- [43:58]
B
Yeah, big globalist countries.
- [43:59]
A
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. Big data global companies that are like in the jar shores or.
- [44:03]
B
Yeah. So I wonder what the fix is, though, because you're not going to be able to fix human greed. That's just nature.
- [44:08]
A
No, no, you're not. You're not.
- [44:09]
B
So I don't know if it's even fixable. Right.
- [44:11]
A
Like, I don't. You know, the big question for me, they're kind of litmus test if we even have a country anymore and we have a. Having America. The way that I grew up knowing America to be is this next election. Because I think anybody in their right mind, any sane human being will say there is no possible way you, you could hate Donald Trump and you could be a complete liberal in the left and believe all the left policies and still rationally understand that Donald Trump wins this election in a free and fair election.
- [44:38]
B
Yeah.
- [44:38]
A
There's no way that President Biden has a chance to beat this man in a free or fair election.
- [44:44]
B
If he wins, I'll be shocked.
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A
Yeah. So that's the litmus test. Right. If, if he wins, then we know that America does not have electorate vote anymore.
- [44:51]
B
Right.
- [44:52]
A
And, and we, and we've lost a voice to have to choose our leaders and, and what happens with that? Who knows, man? These are the kind of things that's, that literally start a civil war and rebellion. These are kind of things. I mean that really. I mean, January 6th to me is, is, is orchestrated and insane. So that's what we're talking about. We're talking about like people really rising up or conceding, which is sad. But if they concede, then we just don't have. If we. America, I don't think America goes away.
- [45:24]
B
Yeah.
- [45:25]
A
I think it becomes Europe and we.
- [45:27]
B
Might have some states leave if he wins again.
- [45:29]
A
Yeah, we could, we could, you know, and that's very, that's very. People get excited about that. Oh, like, people love change. So like. Oh, yeah, I live in Texas, so people like, it'd be awesome if we succeed. There's a lot of implications to that. Like we don't want. It's like, it's like a good marriage. It's been around. Like, I've been married 30 years, like, and, you know, people have been around marriages 30 years, like, oh, it'd be great to, you know, start over with someone new or something like that. Sounds good. The amount of damage that comes from that is not good. And so if states start succeeding and stuff like that sounds real appealing and sexy to people, but, man, there's so much damage that comes with that.
- [46:03]
B
Absolutely.
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A
We want to stay united. We want the United States to stay together. And. But I believe that hinges on the American people knowing that it still have a voice. When American people believe they don't have a voice anymore and they got a taste of it this last election, most Americans, most rational Americans know that there was, you know, a lot of, you know, election fraud and the mail imbalance and stuff like that, and, and don't believe that was a free and fair election and a legit and a legitimate outcome. And. But if that happens again, this time with the way the scales are tipped, this time with the election interference with the, you know, the New York court system and, and, you know, convicting Donald Trump on these felonies in the middle of election, and I, I don't know. I don't know how America responds. They either, again, either gonna rebel or completely concede, and either one of those are terrible for the country.
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B
Yeah. I feel like this is the most pivotal election of all time.
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A
It is. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody says that every election of all times, but this, this really is. It really is. Absolutely. It's the determination if we have a free and fair election system in a country and that. And that determines if we have a country.
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B
Yeah. Because as we know it, he wins again. That means. That could mean that other elections have been compromised in the past.
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A
We know they have, but at what extent? What point? I mean, look, they tried. They're trying everything to take him out.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, they're. They. I mean, this, this is not a coincidental circumstance. The conviction.
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B
Yeah. Legally, probably physically, who knows, he'll win an appeal.
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A
But it doesn't matter if he wins this in an appeal because it's in the middle of election.
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B
Right.
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A
But I mean, his, his poll numbers are going up. I don't know if, you know, like.
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B
He'S not like 56, right. Yeah, yeah.
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A
And that's. And that's definitely flawed polls.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But, yeah, even. Even with that, he's still at 56. I'd say he's probably like. He's probably like 90. Probably. I mean, I've only met one Biden.
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B
Support in my whole life.
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A
Yeah. So. But I mean, how the American people responded when he got the announcement that he got convicted of a felony, he they had 360 million come in in the GOP website.
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B
That's crazy.
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A
It shut down. The website crashed.
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B
It helped him.
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A
Yeah, it helped him.
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B
That's funny. Chad, it's been fun. Where can people find more about you your books? I know you got a film coming up.
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A
Yeah, I mean, meant everything for me. Chadrobyshow.com My foundation, if people are interested in the foundation that I found at mighty oaks foundation. Mightyoaksprograms.org all my books are available anywhere. Books are sold, man. Anybody that loves to support, you know, veteran authors or authors in general. Pre sales and books are are always this comes out August 13th but pre sales always help us. Cool. So you pre. You can pre order a copy of Mission Without Borders and if you stay tuned on my my Instagram follow my podcast the Resilient show, you know YouTube you can subscribe but we'll keep you informed when a movie comes out. Cool. Yeah. And I can't say who wrote it or I could just say the people that made Terminal List or, or, or in charge of making this movie.
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B
Nice. Can't wait to see it, man.
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A
So if you like Terminal List, you know, which is a series has been a big screen. So.
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B
Perfect. Stay tuned guys. Thanks for coming on.
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A
Oh thanks man.
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B
Thanks for watching as always and I'll see you guys tomorrow.