The 5-Minute Breathwork Hack That Changed Everything | Ocean Eagle DSH #920

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Episode: The 5-Minute Breathwork Hack That Changed Everything | Ocean Eagle DSH #920
Release Date: November 25, 2024

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Ocean Eagle

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Introduction to Ocean Eagle

In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly welcomes Ocean Eagle, a renowned breathwork facilitator and healer. Ocean shares his profound journey of overcoming personal trauma through breathwork, offering listeners invaluable insights into self-healing and personal growth.

Personal Trauma and Healing Journey

Ocean delves deep into his tumultuous childhood, marked by severe familial dysfunction. He recounts:

[10:37] Ocean: "My dad was an alcoholic, just like my mom. They put me and my brother through unimaginable horrors from a young age."

He describes witnessing his father’s abusive behavior, including instances of physical violence and trauma that left lasting scars. Despite these challenges, Ocean found solace and healing through breathwork and sobriety:

[13:40] Ocean: "Within months of getting sober, my mom and I both embraced a life free from alcohol. Sobriety was a cornerstone of my healing journey."

Critique of Traditional Therapy

Ocean expresses skepticism towards conventional psychotherapy, emphasizing its limitations in achieving true healing:

[10:27] Ocean: "I did 15 years of on and off psychotherapy, but it never healed anything. It just boxed up the pain until life triggered us again."

He advocates for inner work and personal responsibility in overcoming trauma, contrasting it with the often temporary relief provided by traditional therapy.

Breathwork as a Healing Tool

Ocean passionately explains the transformative power of breathwork, detailing how it facilitates deep emotional and physical healing:

[25:03] Ocean: "Breathwork balances our CO₂ and O₂ levels, creating homeostasis and allowing our bodies to heal from within."

He shares inspiring stories of individuals who have overcome severe health conditions through his breathwork protocols, illustrating its profound impact:

[54:09] Ocean: "A man with stage four lung cancer saw all his cancer cells disappear after a year of dedicated breathwork."

Cultural and Societal Programming

Ocean critiques societal structures that stifle individual potential, particularly the educational system:

[06:31] Ocean: "Society programs us from birth, making choices from an unhealed place. Schools often label the non-conforming as 'dumb,' limiting their expectations."

He discusses the importance of breaking free from cultural conditioning to realize one's true potential and live authentically.

Views on 5G and Global Conspiracies

A significant portion of the conversation touches on Ocean's controversial views on technology and global control:

[35:13] Ocean: "5G technology is part of a larger plan to cull humanity. It destroys mitochondria, leading to blood clots and heart issues."

He connects these beliefs to broader theories about global elites and the manipulation of populations through advanced technologies.

Numerology and Consciousness

Ocean explores the mystical aspects of numerology, linking it to consciousness and personal awakening:

[47:06] Ocean: "When you raise your consciousness, memories and ancient knowledge become accessible on a cellular level."

He describes his experiences with numerological patterns and their significance in understanding the universe and oneself.

Role of Men and Women in Society

Ocean emphasizes the need for a balanced societal structure, advocating for the empowerment of both men and women:

[36:58] Ocean: "We need to reinstate traditional roles where men protect and support women, fostering a balanced and harmonious society."

He critiques the current patriarchal system and calls for a return to more natural, supportive roles.

Upcoming Events and Retreats

Ocean shares information about his upcoming breathwork retreats and training sessions, inviting listeners to participate in transformative experiences:

[28:44] Ocean: "I have facilitator training sessions in Sedona and Peru this January. Join us to embark on a journey of self-healing and empowerment."

He highlights the benefits of attending these retreats, including deep emotional healing and personal growth.

Conclusion

Sean Kelly and Ocean Eagle wrap up the episode by reinforcing the importance of self-healing, inner work, and living authentically. Ocean encourages listeners to take control of their own healing journeys, emphasizing that true transformation comes from within.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ocean on Self-Healing:
  "[03:14] Ocean: 'I guide people back inward to remember that they are the healer. You’re the healer.'

• On Breathwork's Impact:
  "[54:09] Ocean: 'A man with stage four lung cancer saw all his cancer cells disappear after a year of dedicated breathwork.'

• Critique of Traditional Therapy:
  "[10:27] Ocean: 'Psychotherapy never healed anything. It just boxed up the pain until life triggered us again.'

• Societal Programming:
  "[06:31] Ocean: 'Society programs us from birth, making choices from an unhealed place.'

• Empowerment of Women:
  "[36:58] Ocean: 'We need to reinstate traditional roles where men protect and support women, fostering a balanced society.'

Key Takeaways

• Personal Responsibility: True healing stems from within, requiring individuals to confront and work through their own traumas.
• Power of Breathwork: Breathwork is a potent tool for emotional and physical healing, capable of transforming lives and overcoming severe health issues.
• Critique of Systems: Societal and educational systems often limit individual potential through harmful programming and labeling.
• Awareness of Technology's Impact: Advanced technologies like 5G may have profound, possibly detrimental effects on human health and society.
• Balance and Empowerment: Achieving societal balance involves empowering both men and women to fulfill supportive and protective roles.

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For more information on Ocean Eagle's retreats and breathwork sessions, visit oceaneagle.org or follow him on Instagram @Iamoceaneagle.

Transcript

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[B]

All right, guys, from Sedona, Ocean Eagle. That's where I got engaged, man.

[A]

Oh, you got engaged in Sedona?

[B]

Yeah. I love the energy there.

[A]

Where did you do it?

[B]

I did it. Lovers Peak or something. Beautiful view.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I love it.

[B]

I'm sure you have a great time out there.

[A]

It's a very special place. It's, it's hard to, you know, not tap into that energy when you're there, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it can also spin you around if you're not grounded.

[B]

Yeah. How so?

[A]

There's just a lot of, there's people think it's this big spiritual community, but I don't really do anything in the community there anymore because when I first got there like three and a half years ago, it kind of spun me out really. And there's a lot of people that have good intentions that want to be spiritual. They want to think they're healers that, you know, I don't want to call them out as just being fakes or frauds because they really intend to do good, but they really don't have the gift.

[B]

I've heard of that, like the fake shamans and stuff charging you 10k for a ceremony.

[A]

If somebody calls Themselves a shaman run away.

[B]

That's a pretty good gauge in the US, right?

[A]

That's not anywhere. I only think there's about four shamans on the planet.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I don't think there's that many.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, shaman is something, a title. You earn over 40, 50 years of being a medicine woman or a medicine man in your community.

[B]

Wow, I didn't know that. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People throw it around like it's.

[A]

It's just tossed around. I'm a shaman. You know, it's all bullshit. And people call. Try to label me that, and I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm. I do shamanic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I'm not. I'm not a shaman.

[B]

What do you label yourself?

[A]

You know what? I don't really use labels at all. You know, I mean, I don't like to do the label thing. People call me a healer and it's like, because when I work with people, I only have the energy they assign to me. I'm no different than the little Buddha statue at home on your altar. You put. You get down on your knees and you pray to that little Buddha statue. And some kid made that in Indonesia for 25 cents a day. So that Buddha statue only has the energy you are assigning to it. So people come work with me, and they're only going to heal if they believe I can heal them.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's not me. They're actually doing it. So what I do is actually guide people back inward to learn and remember that they are the healer. That you're the healer.

[B]

Yeah. And you do that through breath work. Your approach is unique because no psychedelics, no drugs, all from within, right?

[A]

No, I've never. Sober 25 years, never done a plant medicine. I don't facilitate it. And, you know, I spend a lot of time all over the world, a lot of time in Peru. And anytime I tell people I'm going to Peru, like, oh, you do Iowa? No, I don't do Iowa, actually. I watch the people doing it down there and I watch them sitting in ceremony all the time. And.

[B]

And it doesn't call you?

[A]

No, it doesn't call me.

[B]

Well, it sounds like you've been able to heal. We'll get into your trauma, but you've been able to heal yourself with just breath work.

[A]

Yeah, just breath work. And, you know, being sober, you know, sobriety is huge, you know, a huge part of my healing journey, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I would say drinking can lead to some demonic paths.

[A]

Well, I mean, if you believe Such things. It was named after a cool, which is a flesh eating demon.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

So, yeah, the original, it's a story out there on the Internet, if you believe it, but it's named after a cool, which is flesh eating demon. So you've seen little video pictures of the little akuls on their shoulders, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Trying to attack people. It's the. I can actually see when the demon enters people.

[B]

Really.

[A]

I can actually see the shift in the eyes.

[B]

Holy crap. And does alcohol put you in a state where they're more like the demons can enter you easier?

[A]

Absolutely. You're. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[B]

I could see that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People start slurring when they're drunk.

[A]

Like they're being slurring there. You notice the volume and their speech goes up and they start repeating the same thing that they said at the last party they were at. You know, it's like, you know, you know, it's like they immediately revert back to high school and talk about the fucking catch they made. You know, the 18th time you've heard it. You know, it's like, you know, some.

[B]

People live in the past, right?

[A]

Dude, when I went to my 20 year high school reunion, it was a joke. I mean I go there in good shape at that point I think I was seven years sober. And I'm talking about the, the headquartered. The. The quarterback was bald and fat.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

You know, and every. And I went to a big west Texas high school and everybody was fat. Everybody was talking about high school. And I actually drove sober slay that night with a bunch of people that wanted to go out to the bar we used to go to. Yeah, it was just a mess, man. Wow. So yeah, everybody's, you know, a lot of people stay stuck. This episode is brought to you by Amazon. The holidays are here and you know what that means. It's time to get your friends and family the gifts they deserve. Take the stress out of shopping with Amazon's great deals and low prices on a huge range of items from toys to tech and much more. Whoever you're gifting for Amazon has great prices on everything you need this holiday season. Shop Black Friday week Deals. Now you can get the most important meal of the day any time of day. I'm Talking about the $5 big deal breakfast meal from Jack in the Box, available all day and all night. A breakfast Jack with a freshly cracked egg, a hash brown and French toast sticks for five bucks. Sounds good. For breakfast, lunch and dinner at Jack. Every bite's a big deal. Order Jack's five dollar Big deal. Breakfast meal. Now, in the past.

[B]

What do you think is causing that for people?

[A]

You know, I just think people don't really realize that. That they are the solution to their problems. And people settle and they get programmed from birth and they start making choices that are from an unhealed, wounded place. So, you know, society says you gotta, you know, go to school with these kids, and there's 35 of them, and you're gonna be in a box. You all gotta learn the same. And the ones that don't learn the same, we're going to tell them they're stupid, they got to go to an iep, a special learning class. And then we're going to put seven kids up on stage in front of 600 kids. These are the seven that are smart. The rest of you are dumb. So we do this whole thing where we dumb people down from the beginning so they don't expect more out of their life. They don't expect that they deserve better and deserve more. And then, of course, the family of origin kicks in and cultural wounding, which culture is, if you reverse it, is your cult.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, and people say, well, it's so difficult to break free from my old life. Well, that's because you're trying to defy your cult. Right. Define your cult, which is your culture. Right. It's your cult. So it's the subconscious wounding, the subconscious demon within you that you have to exercise out. It takes a lot of courage to go into there and try to live life, you know, in a way that you weren't bred to live it. You know, whether it be religious, cultural, fame of origin, church, you know, whatever it is that. That. That programmed you from the beginning takes.

[B]

A lot of courage. And I. I'd attribute me kind of getting out of that mindset to entrepreneurship, just exposing me to people that just think differently.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because I was wrapped in the system. I was, like, going to college and, you know, going to church and all that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And entrepreneurship just exposes you to people that think differently.

[A]

Yeah. So it's called think outside the box, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you think about that, there's not. There's no square edge on my body. Everything's round. Everything's fluid. Everything's, you know, everything in the universe is wavelengths and round planets and stuff. But they put us in these things called boxes. And so when our energy goes to a corner, it gets stuck.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And then we go to another corner and it gets stuck again and stops. There's no, like an infinity set. We should just be Fluid. It all should just flow naturally. And people get these angles going in their body, so when they have trauma, abuse, abandonment, neglect, it gets stuck in what I call the rectifier circuit. And it's these conglomerate. It's these conglomerate masses, cellular masses that start heating up. And depending on where that trauma is stuck and stored and trapped, it heats up. And then, like radiation, it burst. And then it creates disease in that point, that moment. And then it creates your aura field becomes toxic. So we see somebody that's beautiful, that walks in and looks like they're happy. They look very radiant. Right. Well, it's. Conversely, if you're walking around with all your trauma all over your body, then you look like pig pen from Peanuts. You know, you got a big black dust cloud and you're a victim, and you think everything that's gone wrong in your life is everybody else's fault and mentality. Yeah. It's actually you doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's actually you calling it in because you're unwilling to go look.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, reveal the things that hurt you. You know, reveal the things that hurt you and heal the things that hurt you. And that's my problem with psychology because I did like 15 years of on and off psych, psychotherapy, therapy, EMDR, rapid eye movement. I did all that shit. And the problem is we never heal anything. You know, we just put it back on the shelf, box it up, and then a week, two weeks later, life starts triggering us and we get anxiety and we're back on our psychologist couch again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And some people have the same kind of psychologist for years.

[B]

Therapist.

[A]

Right, Therapist. You just. You don't ever heal anything.

[B]

I did. I went to four sessions. I didn't feel like anything was accomplished personally.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. If I want to go talk to somebody, I talk to my mom, you know, she'll at least. I've at least trained her how to listen and not try to fix me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I don't need fixing. I'll take care of that part. Sometimes I just need to get it out.

[B]

That's great you have a relationship with your mother. Because I know you've had some trauma with her growing up, right?

[A]

Lots. Yeah. Yeah. That woman put me through hell. And she went through hell and put me through hell. I just had a conversation with her earlier on the way here, and I was like, you know, you. You put me through hell in my teenage years. And then I paid you back in.

[B]

My 20s because she was alcoholic, and then you became one, you know.

[A]

Yeah, she was alcoholic. My dad was an alcoholic, mom was an alcoholic. And you know, I watched them. Just. Terrible relationship, man. I mean, it's like I saw things at 5, 6, 7 years old that you should never see as a kid, you know, I mean, my parents were separated when I was 7 years old and my dad came in on a Saturday morning and I wanted to talk to mom, told me and my 8 year old brother to go in the other room. And the next thing you hear is the screams you never want to hear from your fucking moment. And he didn't lock the door. So we go look and I have a lot of blacked out memories from childhood. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate First. Like, you know, to check the date of the big game first before you accidentally buy tickets on your 20th wedding anniversary and have to spend the next 20 years of your marriage making up for it. Yeah, checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate Savings. Vary terms apply. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. But I can tell you the color of the carpet in the house, the smell in that house. I can tell you what the wallpaper looked like. And I could tell you that my mom's nightgown was ripped into two pieces. And there's my big burly father, you know, on top of my mom, beating and raping the fuck out of her, you know. And then the screaming starts happening. Mom's trying to save us. Get out of the room. Dad's looking back with this demonic look in his face and you boys get the out of here. And then my mom wouldn't stop talking. So he looking at us, he looked back at her and just crushed her across the face and broke her jaw in front of us. And. And then he gets off of her with an erection and runs out at us and pushes us out of the room and. And then I'm. I'm on the outside of the door as a seven year old, banging on the door, saying, please, dad, stop. And he goes back and rapes her more. So that is my first experience at visualizing what sex is crazy, you know, so that's a hardwiring that stays with you forever. I mean, I'm 55 years old now and I've raised my own kids and I don't have any energy in that story anymore. Cause I've done all the work around that and my mom. I have permission from my mom to tell that story.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So she's a warrior. But my mom, you know, dad was out of the picture immediately. And then she married another alcoholic. And we owned a bar in Sweetwater, Texas, called Uncle Funky's. So when I was 14, I was drinking and DJing in that bar. So alcohol was a big part, and I was just trying to numb my pain. Yeah, Yeah, I was big time trying to numb my pain. But, you know, when I got sober at 30, I was in California, my mom was in Texas. Within months of each other. We got sober at the same time.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And didn't talk about it. Wasn't planned. Just turns out we got sober at the same time. So my Mom's been sober 25 years, and I've been sober 25 years next month.

[B]

Beautiful.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Well, they say life will keep presenting the. The situation until you kind of find a solution, right?

[A]

Yeah. It's like the. It's like the spoke on a wheel. You know, you put a playing card in a wheel when you're a kid and it keeps slapped, slap, slap. You keep getting slapped and slapped. And finally, it hurts enough. And one of the. In one of my books, I write about that, it's called Everybody. Everybody has a pain threshold. So people aren't going to make the necessary changes in their lives until they reach that pain threshold. Some people don't reach it in this lifetime.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Some people go to the grave with it. You know, I remember I was at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, and I was. I don't know, I was eight, nine years, 10 years sober. And I was speaking. I was a speaker at that meeting. And this guy comes up afterwards to thank me for speaking, and he walks up and he's like, hey, I just wanna. I wanna thank you, man. And he looked like, you know, like asphalt. And I said, well, thanks. I appreciate it. I said, how? You don't look so good. You all right? Hell, yeah. I just got my second DUI in two weeks. I'm like, oh. Because what else is going on? He said, well, I just got out of prison a year ago. What were you in prison for? Well, when I was 17, I got drunk with a buddy of mine and I rolled my car and I killed my buddy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you 17, you rolled your car, you killed your buddy, and you got out of jail a year ago and you just picked up two DUIs? And he's like, yeah. I said, can I ask you a question? He said, sure. He goes, I said, are you Done yet. And he's. And this is the. This is a typical addict, alcohol. He goes, I think I'm almost there.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

This guy's getting ready to go back to the can for a long time. And he goes, I think I'm almost there. So, you know, his pain threshold, he may never reached in this lifetime, you know? Yeah, we've all got that, that bottom, whether it's an emotional bottom or a physical bottom, you know, someone dying, you know, Damn. Everybody's got that pain threshold.

[B]

That's crazy. Yeah. I saw my dad. He. I don't think he ever got there, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Before he passed, he just had so much unaddressed trauma from childhood. He got physically beaten up growing up on a farm.

[A]

My dad did too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, so you found out what caused your dad to be acting that way?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I know. It's lineage stuff. I mean, I had a crazy ass family on the. On the Daniel side of the family. I mean, my grandmother blew my brother's head open with a log. And when he was like, you know, 12 years old and 14 stitches, you know, she was a mean old woman.

[B]

Damn. And that probably happened to her growing up.

[A]

Probably happened to her. And. And my dad's brothers were extremely toxic to him. They're very abusive to him.

[B]

Damn. Was he the youngest?

[A]

He was the youngest of the boys, but. And then my other. My aunts, their two sisters, they're just crazy. And I mean, my Aunt Pat, now all my aunts and uncles, except one of them are all dead. And my aunt Pat died in a rollover. Car accident. Car. Car accident. Brother died in a car accident. My brother died at 22, when I was 21. So it's actually a miracle that either one of us made it out of that childhood life.

[B]

Wow. It was that. That rough for you guys?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you don't. I had 11 schools in two different states. My mom was chasing around with my stepdad, Earl. I had a month and a half of sixth grade left. They just moved. They just left. I had stitches in my knee. I was playing baseball. And I had a month and a half of sixth grade left in elementary, and they just moved 100 miles away.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Left me with a friend and sixth grade.

[B]

Sixth grade, that's like 12 years old.

[A]

I was a latchkey kid at seven.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

I was walking the streets at seven years old. Seven and eight. Yeah, my brother was eight. You know, after my dad did that to my mom, she had to go to work full time. She was gone all the time. So we Were latchkey kids and third.

[B]

Fast.

[A]

Third and fourth grade. Real fast. Yeah, we got nailed for stealing bikes when I was 8. I actually got fingerprinted at 8 years old. Yeah.

[B]

Sounds like you and your brother really close.

[A]

We were, but he was extremely abusive to me.

[B]

To you?

[A]

Very physically abusive to me. He was on Ritalin and he would tear chunks out of my cousin's hair. He was very mean. Yeah, he was really abusive. I think it was when I was about 15 years old. I. I got bigger than him and stronger and I picked him up and threw him on his back. And that's the last time I remembered him ever hitting me or hitting me with anything.

[B]

Wow. Because it sounds like you were dealing with the same trauma, but he internalized it differently than you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just had a different way of acting out. But it was from a young age, you know, but, you know, with the stuff we saw and the stuff my mom, you could imagine. After that happened with my dad, I didn't see him or hear from him for like three or four years. And then my mom decided. From Texas, because she moved us into Texas. She decided it was a good idea to put us on a plane to go see my dad for two weeks. I hadn't heard him, heard from him, or seen him since he beat and raped her.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I don't remember going to the airport. I don't remember getting on the plane. I don't remember him picking me up. And all I remember was him locking us in vans all night in card rooms while he would go in and drink and gamble till 5, 6 in the morning and then come out and take it out on us because he was pissed off, angry and drunk.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

So he was a train wreck. You know, he just lived with another guy in an apartment. He didn't. We were just walking the streets during the day while he was working. So.

[B]

Terrible.

[A]

Yeah, it was not good.

[B]

Did you ever, like, rekindle that or was it like a loss?

[A]

My dad. Yeah, you know what? I. It was. It was just because, you know, here's the. Here's the thing about a father son relationship. My dad, I played baseball in college and I was a Texas All Star as a freshman and got to go play in the Kansas Jayhawk League, the NBC League World series, where Mark McGuire played. I was in that. In that league and the tournament was coming up and my dad was flying out to see me play. He had never seen me throw a baseball. And it was a summer between my freshman and sophomore year in college. So I was, My mom was coming too. And my mom was the one that raised me right. Even though, you know, as fallible as it was, and she raised me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I was so stuck on impressing my father. It was. I wanted to do something good for him after all the shit he did. It still meant something to me to do something in front of my father. So I struck out. My first at bat and I was like pissed. I had a lot of anger back then and. But the second at bat, the bases were loaded and I. And I crushed one over the center field fence and hit a grand slam from my dad.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

For me at that moment, I thought I just won the World Series. Right. But it just tells you where that hardwiring is to the father, son. Right. It's so important that, you know, us, our fathers show up for our kids, you know, and they're in the house and if they're not able to be in the house that they're co parenting correctly, you know, and they're like not just thinking about themselves, they've really got to show up, you know, for their kids. My kids are now 19, 21, 27 and 29, so. And my daughter, as of December was. Still had not lost her virginity and, and didn't have a driver's license. I always dated her. I always took my daughter to Broadway shows, you know, Phantom of the Opera, Wicked, you know, Shrek. You know, we saw a lot of Broadway shows together.

[B]

Well done, man. That's a rare thing for daughters it's these days.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's actually with the over sexualization on every social media platform.

[A]

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Wow. You raised him right, dude.

[A]

Well, I did my best. Well, you know, I didn't have a good model. I overdid for my kids because I didn't have anything there for me.

[B]

Right. So did you get better with each one?

[A]

Yeah, you know, you learn. I coach 15 seasons of youth sports. I never had anybody coach sports for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was a boy scout master. I volunteered in all my kids classes all the way through third grade.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

You know, grading papers, cutting out for teachers, you know, did all that 3D tick tock stuff.

[B]

That's cool, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sounds like you were, you were there every step of the way with your kids.

[A]

I did my best, you know. Yeah. I don't look back with regrets.

[B]

That's awesome. Yeah. That acceptance you mentioned earlier from your father though, that's. That's huge. I remember like right when my dad was. Was alive, I would come tell him how much money I'm making. And he didn't even care.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, he just wanted me to be happy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I wanted to work so hard to make him happy.

[A]

Oh, my dad didn't fucking want me to be happy. My dad. My dad would tell me what, you know, I'm never going to amount to anything. You know, you're never going to finish anything. And at that time when he was telling me that, he was right. I was a great starter, but terrible finisher on things.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. It took a long time for me to alchemize myself into. And I'm still working on it. You know, I'm still in the school of self mastery.

[B]

So you would start a bunch of things where you would never get the job done.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Were you scared of the outcome or.

[A]

You know what? When your childhood is used to failure. And even at 15, I took the Sweetwater Mustangs to a perfect 10 and oh, season as a quarterback. Got called up to varsity number one foray school in Texas. And then when I got called up, my mom and stepdad moved. They left town again and left me. So I was used to abandonment. I was used to failure. I was used to things not finishing. And so what we do is when we're. When we haven't done our work on our trauma and our abuse, the band. So we call in the familiar because at the very least they kept us alive. So those familiar patterns, that familiar energy, it doesn't feel right. When things start going right. It feels really uncomfortable. Like it's because my self esteem was so low. I was a egomaniac with an inferiority complex.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So, you know, here's what I want you to see. I'm hip, slick in school, and I can drink you under the table and I can do a longer line of coke than you. But behind all this, if you knew who I really was, you'd fucking hate me, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the thing with. With school. You're putting on a show.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

That's not who you are.

[A]

Who you are is when no one's looking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's who you are. That's when integrity is built. In the bathroom, by yourself, naked. Can you be that same person when you walk out of your house? Because if you can, then you're free.

[B]

Right?

[A]

But if you're. You know, we're only as sick as our secrets. So if you've got stuff you're doing that you know, your mom wouldn't approve of, your daughter Wouldn't approve of. Your grandmother wouldn't approve of. Then you're a fraud. When you walk out into the world, you're a fraud. And that's the blessing of being an entrepreneur. We can walk around. We don't give a what anybody thinks about us.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't do business with people just because there's an opportunity to make money. I don't do any of that anymore. If they're not in alignment with how I live life, I don't do business with them.

[B]

Same. I've got to that level. I built up a safety net where now I'm very selective.

[A]

Yeah, I've done it in the past for sure. Yeah.

[B]

When you get started. You have.

[A]

Of course I've done it, you know, but now I like, you know, having the make sure that people are in alignment with me is really super important.

[B]

It's huge. Because their energy will bring you down if it's not in alignment.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I can't handle lower vibration conversations. I gotta be talking about small talk. I gotta be talking about how to help the world, how to heal people.

[B]

And yeah, small talk. I get like a, like a jittery feel.

[A]

I just want to run away. It's like, like, man sucks, man. We talk about something cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, you know, how to help a, a mom get more, get more money so you can feed her kids, you know, I'd love to see.

[B]

You on a first date with a girl.

[A]

What?

[B]

You're talking about me?

[A]

Yeah, it's all about the kiss.

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah, you kiss on the first date.

[A]

Do I? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm pretty free, you know.

[B]

Get right in there.

[A]

Well, you know, if it presents itself, if it feels right. I'm, I'm not anybody. That's disrespectful. So.

[B]

Yeah, we were talking in the green room about how you control your sexual energy too.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, we. I've, I've coached a lot of men. I do. I run a lot of men's retreats and talk about porn and the addiction of porn and how hard it is to break. And then conversely, I work with a lot of women during my women's retreats. And one of the biggest complaints is there a lot of them just had relationships that are, that have ended because their ex couldn't get rid of his addiction to porn.

[B]

Really? It's not bad with men, right?

[A]

Oh, yeah, no men, your relationships are ended because of porn.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, the men come home and try to you know, they do it and they try to get their wives involved in it. And. And I had one person I worked with, first two years, their marriage, you know, all he wanted to do was have sex while they were watching porn. And then she just cut it off. She goes, I'm not. This is not who I am. And then so, you know, for like 10 years they were kind of, they were sexless. You know, he would just go, he chose born over her, you know, so, you know, it really is that addictive, you know, it's really breaks synapses in the brain and once you see that stuff, it's hard to unsee it.

[B]

Have you had someone with breath work be able to get out of that?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I've had people heal everything through the breath. I work with a lot of cancer patients. I work with people, a lot of the veterans, as I told you, their ptsd, their trauma releases, a lot of. I had a woman bring a 16 year old into a women's retreat and that was amazing. That 16 year old was hospitalized twice for bulimia. Father had been in prison for 15 over 16 years and he had just gotten out, was causing havoc in their life. And so she brought her. And it was so amazing to watch her, you know, side by side breathing with her mom. And I had her moving energy on her mom and. But the way really got her after the breath work journeys was we went out to the Sedona wolf sanctuary, which I was telling you about. And if you. I highly recommend going and seeing them if you're in Sedona. But after we went to the wolf sanctuary, she came up to me and she looked at me and she goes, hey, Ocean. Because she hadn't given me a real hug yet. She really hadn't let her walls down. And she goes, the wolves did it. And I said, what'd they do? They healed me.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

I'm like. She goes, can I give you a real hug now? She just grabbed me and hugged me and it was a beautiful moment.

[B]

Yeah. They say animals, especially dogs, have healing abilities. I believe that because I used to have terrible anxiety. I got a dog and it went away.

[A]

Dude, I got mauled by a chow at 10.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Like back of the head, side of the head, leg. I still got a scar here. I mean, I was a bloody disaster. It would have killed me if my brother didn't pull him off. And so you could imagine it's another hardwired trauma I carried around my whole life. The cool thing about going down to Peru, there's not A dog on a leash there. I mean, there's pit bulls walking around, you know, and they're not aggressive.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Two year olds walking around in the plaza just playing. Dogs laying everywhere. And they're not aggressive because they haven't been taught to be aggressive and they haven't been taught to be afraid of humans.

[B]

That's so interesting because here, if you go to the dog park, you're going to see a fight.

[A]

I know it's common. Well, the dog sometimes will fight one another, but they won't touch a human.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They'll kind of, you know, have their moments with each other.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But they won't get aggressive towards a human or a child.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So yeah.

[B]

It is fascinating though because I bring my one dog who's not neutered and he gets attacked all the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's like I bring the other dog and he's playful. So I don't know what it is about the neutering.

[A]

The pheromones, man. Yeah, same with humans. Damn pheromones.

[B]

Yeah, that's. I went to Bolivia though. All the dogs were walking around.

[A]

Walking around people. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It was different out there.

[A]

Yeah, totally different.

[B]

Here we treat them like royalty, right?

[A]

Yeah. Right. They get their own bed, dress them up and God dang Halloween costumes.

[B]

You got any retreats coming up?

[A]

Yeah, you know, I've got. I train facilitators in activation breathwork. I just got back from training in Kauai and I had one for December, but I'm going to move it to the end of January. So I got facilitator training in Sedona coming up. End of January.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

I've got a trip to Peru. So January 3rd through January 12th room. I'm taking a big group down to Peru and we're going to go see 12 sites in 10 days. I arrange everything and then more stuff coming up later in the. I got a women's retreat coming up. I moved the date. It was going to be this next week, but I'm moving it. So that'll be all up on my link tree.

[B]

Nice. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Everything will be on my link tree.

[B]

Why are you so in love with Peru specifically?

[A]

I went down there over five years ago and I just had, you know, there's. Right. It was two months after my awakening through breath work and we can talk about that in a minute. But I just had all kinds of things come in down there. I had my gifts as a seer came in and I started seeing how the ancients built these ancient sites and all this stuff was coming in. And so for me, it's a very. It's a very powerful place for me. I feel very grounded there. I mean, I've been to all the sites, you know, Machu Picchu and many times. Sexy woman, Nante, Tombo, Chinchero, Napa, Iglesia. Just ones you haven't even heard about that are just so amazing. Sex, a woman just outside of Cusco. Crazy stuff.

[B]

So you're getting downloads out there big time. Could have been a past life or something that you could have been.

[A]

Past life, yeah. It's funny because in all my breath work journeys, I always end up in Egypt.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I always end up with like one of my breath work journeys. I had Isis, Thoth, Sobek and Horus in a semicircle in front of me with a bowl like porridge. I think it was a bowl of knowledge. And they were each taking turns grabbing the spoon and just feeding me crazy. And I didn't know who these people even were at the time.

[B]

Really.

[A]

No. And I went. And that's looked up later on.

[B]

I. Yeah, my psychic told me I have some Syrian lineage, so I want to get out to Egypt or nearby areas.

[A]

I lived in Cyprus for a little while, but it was during COVID and I was blocked out as an American from going anywhere. I didn't have a fake vaccine card. I don't do vac. I'm not a vaccine.

[B]

I didn't get that vaccine.

[A]

No, man.

[B]

It's like I knew right away. I just had an off feeling about it.

[A]

Yeah. I was truth in it all over. I got kicked off social media so many damn times.

[B]

Oh yeah. You couldn't talk about it back then.

[A]

You couldn't talk about it and you couldn't talk about 5G. People forget that they were just ghosting everybody for. If you brought up anything about 5G back then, the towers, I mean, and those things went up in one year.

[B]

They labeled you as crazy if you even talked.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah. They conspiracy theory.

[B]

And now there's so many studies on it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Irrefutable at this point, all of it. But they'll still shadow ban it.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And now they're working on. Have you seen 6G?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Penetrate even deeper.

[A]

Well, and the thing they're trying to do, obviously, is they're trying to create prisons without walls. So they're already trying to do this and using this green agenda to where you can only travel so far out of your pod. You can only go a certain amount of miles out of your pod.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. They're doing it in Europe right now. They're trying it.

[B]

Whoa, I didn't hear about that.

[A]

Yep. Yeah, they've already. They've tried to implement it right now to where you have a certain range that you can go. And then they're building the big place and I think it's. It's Saudi Arabia and they're building the. That's like 100 mile long city or it's like.

[B]

I saw that.

[A]

You see that?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so you're gonna have sections that you live in. So it'll be one like system that runs up and down. And 50,000 people are going to live in block one.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

People are going to live in block two. You know. Well, if you could imagine that's what they can do if they do this. Who knows what their true intention is. They're doing it under certain guises and of. It's going to be better, you know, but that's what they tell you. It's to keep you safe.

[B]

Yeah. And social credit scores in Asia right now.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

So you can't even play video games for more than four hours.

[A]

Yeah. There's like 400 million cameras in China.

[B]

Crazy. There's probably a lot in the US too.

[A]

They're everywhere, man. They put them up during COVID everywhere.

[B]

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

[A]

When I was living in Sacramento when covet hit and I was like started to notice that I was driving down the street. And then the next day they were like, those cameras weren't on those light poles yesterday. And then that 5G tower wasn't there yesterday. So I started, you know, on monster.com there were 586 immediate openings for tower workers.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

And they were paying them like $3,000 sign on bonuses and 27 an hour.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

So that was the only job you could go do because they were locking everybody and trying to lock everybody in their houses.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So for them to have put that, that 5G system globally the way they did, they had to have it all imports all ready to go.

[B]

It was planned.

[A]

All ready to go. Yeah, it was ready and they were ready to do. They were ready to launch it. And they did it by trying to lock everybody in their houses so they wouldn't even notice what was going on.

[B]

How damaging do you think this 5G stuff is?

[A]

I think it's horrific. My research, what I did back then, I went down all down the FCC's website. I became a massive researcher and there was a thing they did. And you can look in September of 2018 called the Innovation Zones. And the FCC authorized a test bed experiment called Innovation Zones in West Harlem and Salt Lake City, Utah and LA. And what I realized, like, I don't know, six, eight months into Covid that there were 400,000 cases in New York and there were 75,000 cases in LA and there were like zero cases in the Bay Area.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

That's an impossibility.

[B]

The. Huh. So they was it off in the Bay Area.

[A]

So I'm, I'm a numbers guy. So I'm like, okay, if this thing was so, you know, infectious and there were planes going back and forth all the time, and it'd be just as infected in the Bay Area as it was in New York and LA. Well, I started going down the 5G hole and I started. I went to all of the cell phone carriers and I looked at their maps for 5G and 4G. 5G in LA, 5G in Salt Lake City, 5G in New York. 0.5G at that time in the Bay Area. No way, anywhere. So for me, my research shows that there. Because I did research, it's gone now. You can't find it. 10 gigahertz, 20 gigahertz, 30 gigahertz, 40, 50, 60 is a 98% oxygen absorption rate. 60 gigahertz is what's putting out the 5G towers. So when you send out that gigahertz out into the, into the public, it destroys mitochondria. And when it destroys your mitochondria, it creates blood clots.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And what were the doctors all saying? They're finding blood clots.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People are having heart attacks and having heart issues. All of a sudden, heart attacks are going up, those mitochondria are getting destroyed, and it's not delivering the oxygen where it needs to go in the bloodstream.

[B]

Nice. Yeah.

[A]

So for me, what do I think about it? I think it's all part of a bigger demonic plan. I think it's all part of a plan to, you know, the culling of humanity, let's call it, you know, does. Do we need to lose some people on the planet? I don't think it's our job to do it. But I think if, you know, there's a God, which I believe, you know, God, if God is. Then God is everything at all times, at all places, you know, in every moment.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And if there's that powerful of God, he'll just take people out when he's ready. He, she, you know, so for me, this culling of humanity, if you go to Santa Monica Pier on a Saturday night. You'll understand there's some people that probably need to go, you know, you know, there's some, there's some co kids, crackheads, they're not getting rehabilitated.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're not serving this planet in any way. So I think there's a lot of people that are. It's not their fault. They're a victim of the system. And so the system has to crash in order for us to fix this thing. And I think the way we fix this thing is by re empowering women really. I think we need to bring the women back into their fullness of their power and I think we need to support that in every effort that we can. And I think us as men have to, you know, put our jocks back on and quit being wussies or pussies. And because what we got right now, if you notice all these masculine women, they're the ones riding horseback, circling these men with the, with the kids in the middle of the circle. Right. We used to have the warriors would be on the horseback and they would circle the women and the kids to protect them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We don't have that anymore. So we need our men to come back and step into their rightful place. We need to tear down this patriarchal system and we need to bring these men, these women, these good, healthy, balanced women into a position of power because they're not. Women aren't going to put us in wars.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, unless they're greedy, you know, money hungry women that are bought off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And blackmailed. Because that's the biggest weapon against our politicians is blackmail. You know, they've all done dirty things, They've all got dirt on them and they're all living in fear that their little cushy, you know, shit's going to go away 100%.

[B]

You can see it on their face.

[A]

Oh my God. It's disgusting.

[B]

Yeah, there's a few problems there I want to touch on. So infertility rates are really bad right now.

[A]

Through the roof.

[B]

1.82 I believe. So it's the lowest it's ever been.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So at the current rate, we're going to lose people.

[A]

So that's their plan. You know, it's. If you go look at the United nations back in like 2008, 2010, 2012, they said they want to depopulate the planet and they'll. If they have to, they'll use food as a weapon. So now they've got another weapon with the vaccines and they've got a weapon with 5G towers. So they're. You're not going to be able to even see where it's coming from because they've diversified it so much.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And then the chemicals that they continue to put in our foods, that's why I love that RFK Jr. Is going to be in a position of power. He'll get rid of the chemtrails, like immediately. He's flat out said it, you know, he'll get rid of the chemtrails and he'll start taking out. So most of the chemicals in our foods are banned in 400 countries. Yeah, most of the chemicals were allowed. If you go grab a bag of lays in the United States, there's an ingredient list as long as your arm. If you grab the same lay's in Europe, it's got about six ingredients. That's it. So fluoride, you know, in the UK or I mean in Europe in their water was only about 2% had fluoride in it, 67% in the United States. And fluoride, you know, is, is a toxic, toxic chemical.

[B]

They just found out a lowers iq. Right?

[A]

Lowers iq it and what it does is it calcifies your pineal gland. And that pineal gland is your connection to God. So that blocks your connection to God. It blocks your connection to your higher self.

[B]

Crazy. Because people are showering every day, taking baths.

[A]

Yeah, I know. All the time. Putting that on them. Yeah, all the time. That's why I love being in Sedona, my place that I've been at on a well, you know, so it doesn't have that stuff. And it could, but I don't think it has anything in it. But it's really important. That's why it's important to do detoxifications.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Clean yourself out. Yeah.

[B]

And yeah, people don't even know this stuff when they're showering. It's just fluoride and birth controls in the water. It's like.

[A]

Well, you know, Gavin Newsom in California, when the pandemic hit, I had all these people messaging me on social media. What the fuck are all these white vans doing in our kids elementary schools at 2, 3 in the morning? And then I found out what it was. So it's a bunch of Ukrainian electricians that were going around to all the schools, middle schools and high schools. They're installing 5G receivers all throughout the schools. The heads of the school districts knew about it, but these Ukrainian workers were on non disclosure agreements and if they were asked, they had to say they were there. Sanitizing the schools.

[B]

What?

[A]

So that happened, like, week one, when the pandemic hit.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

And they closed all the schools.

[B]

So it was so planned.

[A]

I was all planned, dude. I was. I was researching a site called uncad. UNCAT is an import export tariff reporting site for the United nations and for central banks, I believe. And so I ran there. In 2018, Canada sold to 223 countries. COVID19 test kits. 2018.

[B]

What the hell?

[A]

COVID19 test kits. And it gave how many test kits each country bought, the dollar amount they paid and the tariffs they paid. And I took screenshots of that and put it out on social media. A week later, I go to the same site. Medical test kits.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

They were all in on it. It was all part of this, you know, 2018.

[B]

So before it even started, way before.

[A]

And then they killed Carey Mullis In 2019, the inventor of the PCR test.

[B]

Really?

[A]

They killed him in August of 2019 because he was coming out and telling the world, you can't use this as a test. It's a replicator. It's a replicator that he won. That he won the Nobel Prize for. Right. Because it was replicating cells for aids. But what they're doing is kind of like nobody understood that. The day after Biden got inaugurated, the World Health Organization came out and admitted, hey, we've been over cycling the PCR test to 40 and 45 cycles. We messed up. It should have been only 25. So by overcycling it, it was given millions and millions and millions of false positives worldwide. Well, they killed a lot of people. Killed a lot of people.

[B]

Yeah, because they were putting them on ventilators, right?

[A]

Putting them on vents. The ventilators in there, paying them 39,000. I did a lot of research on this.

[B]

Once you're on those, you're done.

[A]

Yeah, Once you're on a vent. And then the doctors, they were coming out against it because the ones in New York that came out, they were like, you know, why are we putting them on vents? This isn't. They're not having trouble breathing. It's a lack of oxygen in the blood, and hence you know, the mitochondria getting killed. Is that. It's like altitude sickness. Why are we venting them? They're venting them because the administrators are getting 39,000 event crazy, you know, 39,000 event. If they go put them on event, it's all about money.

[B]

All money. And even still. So I thought they were done with the Vaccine stuff. But if you want to become a legal citizen in the US you still have to get all four.

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

Yeah, my friend's trying to do it through the process right now. He said you need all the vaccine.

[A]

That's unconstitutional.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That goes completely against our own.

[B]

I know. And meanwhile, if you come illegally, you're treated like royalty. So why would you even come legally at this point?

[A]

I just hope there's a. And God bless all these people that came. They have a right to live and be free and happy as much as anybody. But you know, Biden made a deal with the Venezuelan government that they could release all their prisoners. And the Venezuelan government told the prisoners, we're going to release you, but you have to go to the United States if we release you. So they allowed them to bring all of their documented prisoners and rapists and murderers into our, into our country, made a deal with them. So, you know, we have 115 countries that just started sending people in here.

[B]

Wow. So what's the deal? Like we get paid for that?

[A]

No, it's all part of the process too. And then you'll notice all these pushes to get these undocumented aliens rights to vote now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like it's also against our Constitution. And it was all trying to win the left, the left side. It's all get him to vote Democrat.

[B]

Yeah. I was just at an event in D.C. the director of ICE, who was under Trump, right. Deported 1.2 million people when he was serving for him. And then he said when Biden took over he had to quit because they were. They didn't care.

[A]

They didn't.

[B]

They wanted.

[A]

They don't care.

[B]

They wanted everyone they wanted.

[A]

Part of the plan is to destroy the United States. That's part of the global elites plan to tear us down to nothing and get rid of the US dollar. That is part of the Klaus Schwab Global Reset, you know, that they want to do. So is it going to happen? I don't know. Is Trump the answer? I don't know. He could be a pawn.

[B]

He could be compromised too.

[A]

He could be all of it. We don't know. So that's why I tell people it's really important to do your inner, inner trauma work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anything you've got that's not healed inside you is going to rear its ugly head when shit hits the fan.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

So your trauma, your abuse, your abandonment and your collect, all the stuff you haven't willing to look at is always doing push ups, waiting for you to slip up it's always waiting for you to slip up. So then when life hits and these global elites know this, they know that certain people in their genetics, they have holocaust energy in their genetics, or they have stuff from ancient Egypt or they have stuff from the Spanish Inquisition. So they know that certain events trigger certain people different ways and cause different diseases that can, they can actually control the type of diseases that go out into the, into the world simply by what, what traumas they trigger.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Through certain world events.

[B]

That's so crazy.

[A]

Yeah. It's not deep.

[B]

When 911 happened, that probably was a trigger to certain.

[A]

Well, we, we. You know, my research shows me the 911 was just a, you know, a big Bush plan. Yeah.

[B]

Well, that's not even a conspiracy anymore. I feel like there's a lot of stuff on that.

[A]

Yeah. And then the Iraq. If you go back and look at the, the start of the Iraq war, it's like they did it. They did it.

[B]

You know, the weapons of mass destruction.

[A]

Well, they were, you know, if you, if you go further, they had found an ancient king's tomb that supposedly had ancient wisdom in it.

[B]

Stargate, right.

[A]

Yeah. So that was supposedly why they, what they were really after.

[B]

So.

[A]

So that they went and gotten in all their museums and tore all the museums out immediately and took everything they could take, you know, as part of the Iraq war. So. And then they did it on the beginning of. They did it, I think it was March and there's a bloodletting in the satanic rituals that starts. It's called something. It starts in March and he started the war with Iraq on that day.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And then he. And then it ends on a certain day in May and he ended the war on this day in May. I don't believe they're all part of the 33rd degree of the Freemasons, you know, and they all steal numbers, numerology. And it's like there's a 33rd degree of Freemasonry. 33 vertebrae in the spine. Jesus lived till 33. He was listed 33 times in the Bible. You know, Club 33 at Disneyland, you know about it?

[B]

No, I don't know that one.

[A]

Yeah. Club 33 at Disneyland. Quarter million dollars a year and you can be in this elite club and.

[B]

You can take a mastermind.

[A]

Yeah. And you can. No, it's just, you know, you get to go pee. A part of this elite group that meets up in this special room and has special high end dinners and you get to be a part of Club 33.

[B]

So, you know, we got to get James O'Keefe to film that.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Pay for his membership.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Or Alex Jones.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm sure they know about it. You know, it's been around for a long time.

[B]

Yeah. 33 is an inch. I'm a 33 life path.

[A]

Oh, you are?

[B]

Yeah. Are you too?

[A]

No, I'm a five.

[B]

You're a five?

[A]

Yeah, I'm a five.

[B]

Yeah. I believe in that stuff. I was pretty skeptical at first, but there's just too many.

[A]

No. When I started looking at 3, 6, and 9 and started having all those numbers come into me and started going down that rabbit hole and then looking at my life and looking at my kids, birth dates and my birth date. My grandmother, my grandfather.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My ex. Wife, my. My stepbrother. Everything was a. Was correlated to 3, 6, and 9.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Everything. Everything. And then so I was born, you know, I was. I was born on a 15, I was married on an 18, married again on a nine, nine. So 18 is nine, you know, so, you know, 666 is just 18. It's nine. So nine is perfection. So if you take three and you start doubling, it goes three, six, three, six, three, six? Three, six. Because three, you know, if you doubling six, it creates a six, 3, 6, 3, 6, 3, six, three pattern.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

And if you start doubling nine, nine, nine, nine, nine,. Nine, nine, nine, nine's completion. So I was flipping numbers around in my head, walking down the beach and in Cyprus and. Huh. And I was coming. All these stuff was coming in, and I was like, numerology. I started messing around with numerology. I said, so if you take a 9, 2 and a 9, that's 20. But if you just drop the nines, that's also a 2. I wonder how far out you can do that. So I went home on my whiteboard and I read out a digit like 47 digits long. And I not only did I cancel the nines, I canceled the eights and the ones and the sevens and the twos, six and the threes, fives and the fours. And then I started canceling multiples, three of them that would add up to nine. It's the same as if you'd added all 47 numbers and broke it down to the root number.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

If you just canceled everything out and come up with like three numbers left, and it's the same.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

So it's the cancellation of nine. So I thought I just created some new mathematical axiom, Einstein out here. Yeah. But what it is is when you Start having an awakening like I did, you start raising your level of consciousness to levels that memories start being activated. It's not new information, it's there. It's access, accessible. Accessible for all of us.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's, it's all, it's within all of us on a cellular level.

[B]

Because when you experienced that awakening, you said you became everything, right?

[A]

I knew I was everything at that moment. I knew that I was this table, this microphone, that can of water, you, me, because it's all connected. So that's why the aliens came and started, you know, making their presence known in the 40s, you know, when we started setting off hydrogen nuclear bombs, you know, we were just sort of, we just fucked with some guy's grandmother in another dimension. Really, by messing with know things on a molecular cellular level. So when we start splitting atoms, we're actually messing with things in other dimensions.

[B]

Wow. So that being said, there probably won't be nuclear war then.

[A]

Well, that's why we're not going to have a nuclear war. They won't allow it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

We can kill ourselves in any way we want, but they're not going to let that happen because a, it's affecting them in other parts of the universe and other universes even, because it's all connected. And also because they don't want us destroying the biosphere here. Because they come and harvest stuff off this planet that they need. That they need.

[B]

Yeah, I heard certain humans even are just being harvested for their energy.

[A]

Yeah, well, Eisenhower made that deal.

[B]

Oh really?

[A]

Yeah, Eisenhower made that deal back. Go look at the, the meeting that Eisenhower had with certain aliens on one of the bases back in the 57 I think it was. And he had a choice, go one way or go the other way. And the military machine forced him to go the wrong way. So they wanted the technology versus sharing information equally. So the deal was struck and we went. That's when all the dark started happening on the planet. Whoa, Eisenhower. Yeah, it was back in Eisenhower days. And so that's when they started making agreements and allowing them to harvest humans. So. And then they've been harvesting cows for a long time. You know about the cow mutilations that have gone on?

[B]

So at the slaughterhouses they're harvesting that?

[A]

No, no, no. The cow mutilations have been going on since the 60s. Linda Moulton Howe documented all this. So these cows are found with no blood around them completely. No, no fluids in them. With eyes. Eyes laser cut out, mouths completely laser cut out, tongues cut out, sex organs cut out, anuses cut Out. And it's been going on since the 60s. You can look up cow mutilation.

[B]

Wow. Why would they do that?

[A]

They're harvesting it for something, so genetic modifications. So somehow they've been messing around with. And they've proven that in our DNA strands. They've been messed with.

[B]

Right, the telomeres. Right.

[A]

Yeah. They know that they somehow, somewhere, somebody messed with our DNA. So what are we? You know, there's a reason that, you know, all across the world everybody looks different. You know, if we all just evolved out of apes, wouldn't we all look like apes? There's different races, right. So now we've got all these different Peruvians. I'm a giant down in Peru, you know, I mean, they're all short and they say, well, it's because of the altitude. But if you go to China and you go to China, you know, you go to Japan, you know, not many tall people there, and they're, you know, they look different. Same in India, same. And then you've got the people in Ireland, you know, that, you know, they're, you know, the Nordics, you know, big, huge monster people. Right. How'd that happen? You know, how did. How did that all happen? You know, it's just all of a sudden, just started making different people because they lived in a different part of the world. That's not how it happened. You know, this is not how it happened. This doesn't compute. Right.

[B]

It is fascinating. I've heard theories that we were all African at one point.

[A]

Yeah, maybe. You know, ultimately we're probably never going to know that answer. There's a lot of, you know, Graham Hancock makes a lot of theories, but.

[B]

Yeah, he's coming on the show next week.

[A]

Is he really?

[B]

Yeah, I'm pumped for that one.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he was on Rogan not long ago. But ultimately, if you listen to the guy, he doesn't tell you that he knows anything. He's just, you know, perhaps this or he's done a lot of research and then gone to a lot of places. But ultimately, like Gobekli Tempe, they don't know what that was really for.

[B]

Well, he gets ridiculed, so he has to be very careful with how he talks. Yeah, I know that space just. It's all about evidence.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's. It's all about evidence and it's all about hiding the evidence.

[B]

Right. That stuff's been hidden.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, they got rid of all that ancient technology.

[A]

Well, there's all kinds of cave systems in Peru that you can't go in and stuff that's been there forever. And the cave systems around the world that have been there forever that you can't go into. And you got cities that are 11 stories down into the ground in Turkey.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. That house, I think they said 40 or 50,000 people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. And then there's a tunnel that connects it to another one in another part of Turkey. So all. And why were they underground? What are they? What are they underground?

[B]

Well, I could tell you this. These ancient civilizations definitely practice breath work.

[A]

It did. It's actually been hidden knowledge. It's been hidden that we do. You know, I practice just, you know, nose, mouth. Nose, mouth breathing.

[B]

That's the Wim Hof method, right?

[A]

Yeah. It's similar holotropic Wim Hof, but it's just nose, mouth. And I wrote an article in Top Doctor magazine called Breathworks Medicine. And I explain why we need to do that. Because when we do that, we balance our CO2 and our O2 levels properly, and we create homeostasis in the body. So we create a moment to heal right within the body. Yeah.

[B]

So if you have, like, a mental condition, it can really just put you at ease.

[A]

Oh. I had a guy with Parkinson's come work with me not long ago, and he hadn't smiled in years. His wife brought him to me. Four breathworks in one day on a Saturday. And he looked at us in the group later on, we were all sitting around looking at each other, and he goes, what? You can't tell because he's lost all muscle control of his muscles in his face. What you can't tell is that I'm very happy right now, but I want to show you. And he went, wow. And he smiled, and the whole room broke apart. We all cried.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

And then two weeks later, I get a message from him. Ocean, can you please send me a breath work protocol that I can use daily? I was on a cruise with my wife in Alaska, and I woke up and I couldn't move. It's like my meds stopped working for my Parkinson's. I started doing your breathing? And my whole body came alive.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And I was able to get up and. And go about my day. So I got him on a breath work protocol right now.

[B]

So cool.

[A]

Yeah. I've got stage four lung cancer with partially collapsed right lung. All of her cancer's gone.

[B]

What?

[A]

All of her cancer just from no.

[B]

Medicine or chemo or anything?

[A]

No, no. She's been doing breath work on a breath work protocol. For a year now.

[B]

What do you think it is about it? Is it a spiritual thing or is it like a physical?

[A]

It's a belief system. And it's also. We did a lot of work around her trauma. So after my. My show came out on the CBS Morning show last November, there was a couple that found me that he got. He got diagnosed with thyroid cancer, got into his lymphatic system. She found him dead eight months before coming to me. And they put a trach in him to save his life, and then they put a bigger one in and said, okay, you're gonna have a trick for the rest of your life now. Came to me eight months later. They said, can you help us? I'm like, well, we can help each other. But I was in Peru. They flew me up and worked with me in a private house in Sedona for four days. And I got videos that just make sob. Those. Those two did nine breath work journeys in 72 hours.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I got videos of him. He. She screamed for over a minute. And there I had them back to back, blindfolded, moving energy on each other with a Bose L1 Pro 8 concert and front of her and one in front of him blasting them. And everything's frequency and vibration, too. But they started moving energy. And he's holding her and she's leaning forward, just screaming for a solid minute. And he wanted to scream. He's having trouble getting enough air because of his trach. So he gets frustrated. I'm in his face and I'm. Breathe. Come on. Scream, God damn it. And he takes his pinky and he shoves it over his trachole. And then he went back for another one. And then after he finished with the second one, he just broke down sobbing.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

So what happened for them was their marriage got healed. They were splintered, and their marriage got healed. And they had no fear about his cancer now. And we found out the cause of the cancer was his dad.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, it was his father.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Big father wound. The guy was devastating to him. And he was still in his life at that moment and had done devastating things to his wife.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So I motherfucked him up and down. I said, that woman who's a homeopathic holistic doctor, she pounded on his chest eight months before and brought him back to life. Said, that fucking woman saved your life. Don't you ever let that man abuse her physically or verbally ever again. And you now protect her. And so we. We worked on writing. We wrote down new boundaries and set new boundaries. So he went home and set those boundaries around his dad and got him out of his life, and everything changed.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

So he had blood work done the next day after working with me, and his cancer count dropped 3,000 points.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

And then a month later, they had a full scan done. The lymph node that pressed on his trachea that officiated him had gone way down. And it was necrosis, necrosis, necrosis, necrosis in the lymphatic system. Cell death, cell death, cell death, cell death. And then all the cancer in the right thyroid was gone. That was just in a month and a half. Fast forward August. They took his trach out.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So they just took his trick out.

[B]

And that's like unheard of. Once you get those usually.

[A]

No, they took a strike out and he's back to work.

[B]

Beautiful.

[A]

So, you know, he's on a breath work protocol, but he also kept up his chemo pills and still took a couple trips down to Scottsdale doing invita therapy. But we can heal ourselves.

[B]

Can't wait. I can't wait to try one of your. Your retreats, man.

[A]

Yeah, travel retreats or, you know, if you bring me to one of your events, you know, we'll do a mini breath work in front of everybody.

[B]

Yeah, it'll be beautiful.

[A]

Yeah. It'll be a lot of fun.

[B]

So healing because people think they could take a pill to get rid of their trauma, but no, I'm the most.

[A]

I'm the most boring person when it comes to that shit. You know, drink really source water. You really clean food, stop eating packaged food. You know, get out and exercise and work on your own inner fears and anxieties and get rid of that shit.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Find out who the hell you are and walk that fearlessly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't give a shit what anybody thinks about you.

[B]

That was a big shift for me.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because I used to. My life used to revolve around what other people thought of me.

[A]

What is your background?

[B]

Half Asian, half. Half Irish.

[A]

I learned a lot in the Asian community that, you know, that you guys have been through a lot. I was on stage at USC with the dean of religion and spirituality with Lisa Ling, and I got to sit and listen to the Asian 300 APIs there. And I got to sit and listen, and I got educated on what Asians have gone through in this country and how it's been difficult and the stuff that comes down from their parents and the expectations. So I had a whole new empathy for the Asian community and what they went through.

[B]

Yeah. High academic Expectations plus getting bullied. Yeah. It's just a mixture.

[A]

I had no idea. Yeah, I had no idea. And I learned a lot and I was grateful for that. That education.

[B]

Yeah, it was huge. I'm glad it happened to me, made me stronger. But at the time, I used to just. People please and.

[A]

Yeah. No more people pleasing.

[B]

Nah, that's.

[A]

That's a wounded place. That's a. That's a wounded place we're living from when we're people pleasing.

[B]

Yeah. And I wanted everyone to like me and it was just terrible mindset.

[A]

My world's way smaller.

[B]

Yeah. I don't have. No. I love it, though. I keep my friends on one hand.

[A]

Yeah, same. Yeah. My. But my love bubble, I call it, is real tight. It's very, very few people in my love bubble that really know me.

[B]

I love.

[A]

They're really good that I really turned to ocean.

[B]

I can't wait to. To do more stuff with you. Where can people find you? Your events and everything?

[A]

Yeah, they can find [e-mail] you go to Instagram. It's I am Oceaneagle. All one word. It's Marty Ocean Eagle Daniel on Facebook. Until I get Marty Daniel removed. I have the paperwork to legally change my name. But, yeah, I've got events all in Sedona. And if you're coming to Sedona, you can book me privately. I do do private. I just had a woman come in, worked with me in September. But be careful. You know, people go home and ask for divorces when they're done working with me. It happens a lot, actually. The veil gets revealed, gets removed and, you know, I have had a guy fly in in June from Amsterdam. It was an addiction problem. He lived with me for five nights and four days and we worked on his shit. So private bookings, brief recovery, lots of stuff.

[B]

Love it. We'll put your website below. Thanks for coming on, man. That was.

[A]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[B]

Thanks for watching, guys. Check out the link below. See you next time.

[A]

Peace.