The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054 - Digital Social Hour

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So your Pokemon Go sitting right there in the cell phone, and they turn on the location, they turn on the microphone, they turn on your camera. Now they're listening to the asset sitting at the next table and collecting that information from a Pokemon Go game. With Obama, that was pretty big. And it was the way that he said it, Aliens are real. Well, okay. Can't really misunderstand that statement, can you? Pretty direct, right? Aliens are real. If the Internet gets blown out, satellites go down, how many days does it take for the supermarkets to run out of food?
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Okay, guys, first guest at Conscious Life Expo. No other man than himself, Jimmy Church. Over 2,3000 podcast episodes, right?
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On what? No, podcast is the wrong word. Yeah. Live radio. When I started, podcast wasn't a word. I'm so old they call me dinosaur. Right. But isn't that interesting where as. As we'll get started. We're now starting, I guess, is that as things moved on and live streaming and YouTube and, you know, podcast, podcast became a word. It became so much a pop culture that people would come at me and go, I dig your podcast. I've never done a podcast. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I do the live show. It goes out later into the archives and stuff, but it was never a podcast because when I started, podcast wasn't a word. Really strange how things have. Episodes. Yeah, Episodes. It. It's just. It's funny to me that society changed so quickly where a podcast and a thing in this news, you know, but it happened overnight. It wasn't like that for me for almost 10 years. Yeah. Yeah.
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Have you seen the viewership, like, increase, like compared to when you started?
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For me personally or for the industry in general?
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I guess for you personally, it, it, it flips.
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So the live. Okay. It's always been strong. I've never looked at numbers, and I did in the beginning. Right. We all look at numbers.
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It's hard not to.
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Right. It's hard not to. So I don't look at them anymore. What I do look at is payments. Right.
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I see that. Giving money.
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So that's where my gauge is. And so I could. Okay, so everything is still solid. But no, I don't look at all of the individual streams and Apple or whatever or Spotify or any interesting take.
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And Lex Friedman does that too, by the way.
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Right.
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I don't know if you knew that.
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Yeah.
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I'm so obsessed with my analytics. I'm like the complete opposite.
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I was so into analytics in the beginning, and once everything was like a smooth machine. Right. And it's running. I kind of disengaged. My focus was always trying to bring knowledge out of a guest and where I learned something, and then that turns around and filters out into the community. That was always my goal. Here's the thing. Okay. I know we're going to talk about some other subjects, but this is important. So many that want to get into what you and I are doing, they're chasing money. That's the wrong goal.
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Yeah.
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If you put money to. Don't. Don't make that. If that's your goal, you're going to lose. Make the goal being the best you can be, the best show that you can be the best host and learn the craft of the interview. If the audience resonates with that, the money comes later. And it's going to come like you want it to.
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Agree.
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But. But if that's your focus in the beginning, get out of the game.
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Can't be your main focus at first.
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And it's a focus for everybody.
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I lost a ton of money at first, actually.
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Yeah. I don't even want to get into that. I spent so many years going, oh, man. Right. But things are fine now, but it's only because I didn't chase the money.
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Let's go.
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I mean, you saw the Obama stuff. You saw Trent just announced the files.
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Yep.
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What's going on, in your opinion?
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I almost want to ask you the same thing. Right. Because we're all talking about it. Yeah. The. The community itself. Sean, if you have been involved with the community for the last 10, 20, 30, 40 years, we've heard all of this before. This is nothing new. We have gone through the valleys and the mountains and riding through this. There have been huge moments like this that are going down right now in the past where we were like okay, this is it. This is happening. There was a time when Roswell was new, okay? And that was 1980. Nobody knew about Roswell before that. So that comes out. All the books, all the, okay, it's here. Disclosures here. MJ12 documents come out. Oh, you know, it's here. Bob Lazar comes out. You know, 1990, that was a big deal. Okay. Just, we've been through this before.
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Yeah.
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So if we go back to something like 2017, Tom DeLonge, PTSA, New York Times, all of that hits. Okay? So that attracted a new wave of people's interest into the subject. For those they thought it was easy. I was like, oh, New York Times, front page, right. Tom DeLong, here we go. Videos. The Nimitz disclosure is here. That was nine years ago. Nine years ago. TTSA is gone.
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You know what I mean?
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It was like this blip in the radar. Well, we're used to this. But in combination with not only 2017, but the, the awareness that has come from this, suddenly the conversation is out front and we do have hearings and we have Congress and the media is now, you know, talking about this subject. Whistleblowers are coming forward where it's, it's not a taboo subject that it was before. Right. Tinfoil hats and the conspiracy crowd. Well, now it turns out we are on the right side of history. So on with all of that has forced what we have seen in the last couple of days with Obama, that was pretty, pretty big. And it was the way that he said it, aliens are real. Well, okay, you can't really misunderstand that statement, can you? Pretty direct, right?
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Very confident.
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Yeah. Aliens are real. Two days later to have the White House do this spin on that. And they did two spins. The first one was Obama shouldn't have said it. State secrets. The second is, well, okay, we're going to do this document dump and I'm ordering and, you know, we're going to move this forward. How do we address that? I would say that with the community. And I can speak for the community. With the community. Okay, we need to wait. Let's see what actually happens. If you get excited and you jump in the deep end of the pool, there's some disappointment there. So do we just ride this out? Is it going to be a bunch of redacted stuff or is it going to include reverse engineering craft at Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, California? Is it going to talk about these legacy programs? Is, is it going to talk about aliens on ice at Area 51? Are we going to See this videos, Are we going to see the film? Are we going to see images? Is it going to be that? Or is it going to be a bunch of cases that we've already known about before and there's nothing new, so we kind of have to wait and we'll see. It's tangible. It feels like there's some movement here for the first time, I. I love this community. I've been doing this for such a long time. It's been a big part of my life that for the community itself, I want them. I want the husbands, the wives, the children that can't talk about this subject with their families. They. They're your employers, your, you know, your friends at school, whatever. You can't. You just can't talk. I want them to be able to go, okay, the White House says it's so. And I've been talking about this for a long time. I'm not crazy. There's something going on. That's what I want for the community. And I think that we're right there. They're feeling it. And because of their voice and the loudness of everything, it seems like we kept the pressure on long enough to have, for the first time, the White House to say something as dramatic as they did. We're going to do a full. That's it. Whatever we got is yours. Okay, let's see what happens.
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Yeah, you guys have tucked it out for decades. Hats off to you, man, because you were looked at crazy all this time, right?
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Rolling that rock uphill, man. Yeah, it never stopped. It never stopped. He. With me, I grew up. I shouldn't say grow up, but I remember when Coast to coast first started and I lived across the street from the CO studios right here in. In Los Angeles, in the Valley. And I thought at that time, if I could just get on that show, if I could host that show, I could ask the right questions, I could help the community. I could do all of this. I go. I go back to college for broadcast and journalism. This was going to be my career. I go back to college and one of my teachers was from cnn. And so we're doing this whatever thing in school and. And I interrupted him and he was talking about the process of bringing stories to a news director and how you do that. I said, something that you can't make up, okay, what about the UFOs? He goes, what? I said, what if I have a case, a UFO case, you know, and I'm from the streets and I'm a reporter and I take it and this Thing. And I've got him. Dude, never say UFO in your career. Don't do it. It's the kiss of death.
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Wow.
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And when he said that, I know exactly what I want to do. So my laser focus was coast to coast. And to be that person bringing this knowledge to the world. And I've been doing this for a long, long time. And this is the first time in all of these years after the advice from somebody from cnn, don't do this. Seven years on coast, feeling really good about the community and everything else. But the barometer for me was, how far do I take this? Am I offending the fcc? Am I offending the corporation that I'm working for? Or do I say screw it, let everything hang out and push this thing forward? Well, now this is the first time. Now it's 2026, man. I've been doing this since 2008. Right. So think about that. And so this is the first time where even I am happy, but I've got to relax and kind of pull back a little bit. We still have to wait a little longer. Let's see what this is. We don't even know if it's going to happen. Right. The announcement has been done, but we don't know.
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Yeah.
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And the other part of it, okay, this is where you get controversial. Don't care about offending people. Is this announcement to cover up other stuff that's in the news? Is it hiding? I'm going to say it. Epstein. Right, The Epstein. Is it that or the other issues that are going on right now? We have an election year, the midterms are coming up. Is this part of that? I don't know. So it will be judged on what. What is revealed. Let's see, is it real? Is it pages full of retractions or is it going to be real stuff? But it's big news, isn't it?
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Yeah. I mean, you've interviewed people that have seen some of these files, right? Yes, I know. Linda, Howie, a few other guests that have show. So if they actually release those, they can confirm it, that they've seen them.
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The. The word that comes up. I was. I was interviewed. I was interviewed by the BBC and they come in and they wanted to know they were using the B word. Is this vindication? How do you feel? Is this vindication? I said, no, we need to give this some time. Is this disclosure? Is this it? I would like it to be. I don't feel vindicated on anything because nothing truly has happened yet. The conversation is there. Okay. Hiding behind and you've heard this so many times. Well, it's a national security issue. Yeah. Can I swear?
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Yeah.
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Are you guys cool with that? National security is. And let me tell you why. ET and aliens, life in the universe. That's a fundamental right as an Earthling.
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You can't.
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You want to keep dolphins secret for me in the ocean. But that's its nature. What's secretive about that? So what is secretive? What is. So what's a national security issue about alien life? The universe is a big place. There's a lot of life out there, and it's our right to know about it. If there's some secret technology that we don't want the Chinese to get a hold of because it's a. Okay, that makes sense. All right, I'm okay with that. I'm on. I want to be safe. But life in general has. Has it visited this planet and do you know about it? That's our fundamental right. You have no right to keep that secret from us. And I will fight for that. And that's the part that really gets under my skin. As soon as they say national security and they want put. To put fear on this subject, that's wrong. Right. And that's lying to the planet. It's lying to everybody else.
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Yeah. Because not only are they gatekeeping it, they want us to fear aliens and UFOs.
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And if you're keeping that from us, what else are you hiding? Right. If there's that lie, what else is a lie? So I think it's really a good time to just be honest the first time. A lot to ask, isn't it? Yeah, it's a lot to ask. But government. Could we be at that moment now? You've been doing this for a long time. Yeah, I'll. I'll flip this on you. I'm a host. That's what I. But what do you think? Do you think that the media is. Is part of this push to bring this out? Do you think that there's a real concern with Congress and the Senate to bring the truth out? Because Congress and the Senate have been lied to about this and they're finding out really quickly that this community wasn't wrong. Right. They're being told you don't have the clearance to. To look into this. Wait a minute. We're the ones cutting the checks. So we need to know what's going on. So if honesty actually happens, not only with the United States, it's a global issue. I am sure that Russia, China, Israel, Brazil, Canada. Pick a country. ET is part of. It's not just the United States. So is it something where globally, that the state actors want to keep this from us for their own reasons?
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Yeah.
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Okay, all right. If it's technology, fine. But life in the universe and everything else dealing with nature is not. Should never be kept from us.
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Yeah. That's always the part that puzzled me the most about UFOs and aliens. I could see the US gatekeeping that information, but every other country as well. It's kind of mind blowing to me.
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Obama said it, didn't he? He said, well, maybe it's just one big global conspiracy to keep this information from the problems. Like there, you said it. Yeah, that's exactly the issue. Just maybe, and I know this is scary to somebody sitting in office, but no, maybe you're not supposed to know. The legacy programs that are running this, they're in the background. The president comes and goes every four years. If you're lucky, it's eight years. Well, the people running it, this is their career in the background. And a president can come and go, but the programs still continue. And just maybe president doesn't know about it or know a lot about it.
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That's crazy.
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So, yeah, yeah, everything's on the table. And it's the same thing with, with all of the state actors around the world. They're dealing with the same thing. So are these legacy programs in communication with other countries around the world? I would say the short answer to that is yes. And it's crazy. That's the big conspiracy that Obama was talking about, right?
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Yeah.
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Very strange.
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I mean, in Antarctica they're doing that too.
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Very. I want that ice to melt so bad. I want global warming to just take this thing over.
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That was a scam too.
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Well, so I believe that one growing up. This is going to be a good conversation. Here's the thing. The question that I think is on everybody's mind, including my own. Let's say the ice melts. Let's say it melts and a city is revealed that is a million years old. Could the planet handle that? I think the planet can handle e T way before finding out that there was something else before us. It's a really big deal.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, that's a really big deal. Be careful what you ask for.
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Yeah. That would change the history books.
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That would change every. That would freak people out. Why? We've been lied to.
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Right? Yeah.
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Isn't that crazy? Where when you look at Egypt, everything is 3000 BC. Nothing before that. Nothing to see here. Gobekli Tepe Happens and that pushes things back 10,000 years, but that's it. There's nothing else before that. And we keep going back and we have dinosaurs, but. But no. And so if, if something like that is revealed in Antarctica, I think that would freak out the planet. I really do. I really do. That would. That people would lose their minds because that is the big lie. And did universities know this? Does the government, the Vatican know about this?
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It goes deep.
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It goes way.
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Who made the history textbooks?
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I think that would unravel things.
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Yeah, I think a lot of people are waking up to history being a lie. His story. Right, right. We don't know how much of a lie. That's the scary part.
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Could we handle it? What do you think? Do you think we could handle it? E.T. i think is easy. It's like E.T.
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i could get around.
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Right, right.
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But an ancient civilization that's still alive in Antarctica and you're not allowed there. You know, lots of part people don't like, you can't go there. There's crazy videos of people trying to like fly over it and can't do it. They get arrested by some weird agents.
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Tend to people ask me all the time, they go, okay, so what proof do you have of this? I go, dude, go to Google Earth, look at Antarctica and look what's grayed out. Almost all of it. Yeah, you see the fringes, you know, you see that. But the center of Antarctica is grayed out. Why? How many satellites do we have imaging this planet? Thousands. Everything is photographed, everything is image, everything is there. You can go anywhere on Google Earth except for the center of Antarctica now. Okay, are they hiding something? Well, yeah, they are. If you want proof of that, you tell me why they are doing that.
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Yeah, so there's plenty of people that try to remote view it and they can't access it as well. They get kicked out.
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You want me to blow your mind? Yeah, Google Earth, the software.
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Software.
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I'm going to make this announcement right now. Google Earth was a CIA funded project. So when Google Earth under another name, which by the way, Pokeman go. Yeah, I was planning it this morning, same thing. CIA funded. No, no, I'm not making this up. You can Wikipedia this.
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Wow.
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So the original funding, the way that Pokemon and Google Earth and GPS all operate same software, same system. So the original funding from the CIA going into DARPA was to develop that technology. And the reason for it before Google happened was guided musician munitions in Iraq. So all of those original guided bombs, that was all a CIA funded thing with darpa. Google came in, took over the technology, bought it. Google Earth happened. So there you go. So now the control of that. Would the CIA have an interest in influence of Google Earth with imaging of something like Antarctica or other spots in the world that you see grayed out on Google Earth or blued out? Well, yeah. The answer is yes.
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Easily.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You go to any country, the map looks different. Their agencies are portraying the map in a certain way, the world map.
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When you play Pokemon Go, we'll get back to aliens. But Pokemon Go's interesting. So the technology is there. What would be great for the CIA or any agency to collect information on somebody? You would do it like this. You've got people playing Pokemon Go, okay. And you know where they are at. And there's an asset that you want to collect information on in a Starbucks. So your Pokemon Go sitting right there in the cell phone and they turn on the location, they turn on the microphone, they turn on your camera. Now they're listening to the assets sitting at the next table and collecting that information from a Pokemon Go game. Now.
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Wow.
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Oblivious, right? Society to this. Not only is the technology there, but I am telling you as fact, the CIA funded all of that. So I sound like some crazy conspiracy guy. So on one of my TV shows for History, we covered this subject. And without saying the names, the CEO and the people that are involved with not only Google Earth and Google Maps and Pokemon Go are all from the same umbrella situation with the funding. So I set up an interview with him up in San Francisco. My producers did, and we were going. And I'm going to hit him with this. We're doing a full segment on this entire subject. And they said, yes, we're cool. And then they said, no, but we still did it. And it was released. And, and, and for that season on, on History Channel. And I'm pretty proud of that. I had so many people turn around and contact me. We just thought it sounded too crazy. I mean, but it turned out to be real. So all you have to do is just, just, just go and do a little research on it.
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It does not surprise me. I got rid of my Ring doorbell, I got rid of my Alexa, because that shit's listening to, man. Well, Ring just got in trouble. Actually, they did. They were recording something and then they used it.
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The, the kidnapping that happened. Right. A couple of weeks ago. So she didn't pay her. I think it was Ring. Right. She didn't pay her bill. So technically it shouldn't be recording video. That's where they got the Images. And they contacted Google and they were able to go into the. And find. What did they call it? I forget the term that they used. Ghost imaging. Random imaging. We were able to go back and grab like. Wait, so you could do this with anybody with a ring camera that. It doesn't even have an active account. Is it recording? Yeah, the security state might like with something like Pokemon Go. I can't tell you how many times where I've had a conversation that. About some obscure subject, but then it shows up in my feed 10 minutes later.
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Yeah.
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And where they want to. Well, we're not doing that. Right.
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What an odds.
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Right? Right. I've been having a conversation with some friends. Now this is how crazy and obscure this was. Everybody listen to this. Having a conversation with a friend because I was out at his compound, hang gliding, and he had these really cool wire rails around this patio. Right. Instead of wood or steel. Right. Wire cable. Braided cable. I was like, wow, man, I gotta do this at my house. This would look good in my living room. So what is it? Man? This is braided cable railings. Oh, okay. All right. I'm at my house a couple hours later, sitting on the patio, drinking coffee. Scroll. There's an ad on my phone for custom braided cable stair railings. I didn't even know there was such a thing. And it's on my phone now. Wait a minute. How does that happen? Just explain it to me like I'm four years old and. And I'll get it. But don't tell me that it's not happening, because that's a lie. Yeah, it's crazy. So the Pokeman thing, then, the ability to. To monitor. You've got a free, you know, secret agent service that's running all the way across the country. And if you know where you want to be and you want to see if that phone is active, then you can just turn everything on. And it has nothing to do with recording you, but it may be to monitor somebody else. But they are listening.
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That is scary.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I just found out AI is no different. ChatGPT. They're saving all your chat logs.
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They're reporting it to the government as well. Do you use it?
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I do, but I might stop. I just found this out recently from Robert Edward Grant. So I don't know if there's a better AI. What about you?
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My producers use it. Okay. They use AI to generate artwork and to advertise. But do we use it for research? Do. Do I speak to it? Do I pull in? Do I put No, I am firmly. I'm analog. I'm going to stay analog. I'm going to stay analog. I really appreciate the human element of life and learning and researching and communicating. I just don't want to tap out into the AI World. I realize I can't change things. It is what it is. I think we're ahead of our skis a little bit, and we haven't stopped to try to figure this stuff out. But as long as money motivates corporations and what AI Is doing right now, you really can't stop it. I did have an idea. I'm going to give you an idea. You ready?
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Yeah.
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You can steal it. You can use it. What if you used AI Everybody in the room, listen. My producers. Oh, both of my producers are here. They snuck in. Now I'm all nervous. Thanks. So at coast to Coast. Yeah. Woman to the right. My producer behind the glass. And I'm doing the show and she's back there. Yeah, that was my. I always knew if I asked a good question, I would look up. I needed to see Gina behind the glass. I love it. So those are both of my producers. But here's an idea. What if you did this show, but you're interviewing Tesla, Nikola Tesla. What if you're interviewing King Tut now, you've got the voice loaded, you've got the chat bot running, you've got. You've got a virtual image up and you. And they're tapping into the entire database of some historical figure. Cleopatra. Right. And you were able to do that. I think that's a good use of AI Great. That would be a lot of fun.
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But it's been done before.
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No, it hasn't.
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It's been done.
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You're stealing my idea.
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You know, there's someone on YouTube that interviews dead people. He. He does a fake Joe Rogan, and then he has that Joe Rogan interview. Dead people?
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Really?
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Yeah. And it gets a lot of views.
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Well, Michelle, it was a good idea for a minute.
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Yeah. Yeah. I've interviewed a robot.
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Have you?
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Yeah. They. They respond too slow, though, so it's a little awkward of an interview. Right, right. For now. That's going to shame. That's going to train rook. But they're going to be talking faster than us soon.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so this is my other take. Let's go back to Aliens for a second. Okay. So many. Because of movies, I think, but so many want. Including my friends. I love them all, but they want E. T. To save us. Right. It's like what you know, you know, our bro, what was it, Independence Day or Mars Attacks? One of those movies, and somebody's on the roof of a building holding up a sign, you know, come save us. Yeah, right. Okay. No, no, we don't need E.T. to save us. But what I think E.T. could teach us and tell us is that maybe numbers and math and everything else is not the future. Consciousness is. There's another element to this that you guys aren't open to on this planet. And so it wouldn't be to save us, but that little piece of guidance to us would be fundamental to everything in our future, where we could take another look at things and approach it that way. My question to ET Wouldn't be, okay, man. Cure for cancer, you know, zero point energy. You know, med beds. Yeah, yeah, med beds, Exactly. It wouldn't be that. Yeah. I would ask ET how did you guys survive? How did you guys not kill each other? How did you guys grow up and mature and were able to advance into and evolve into another civilization? Because right now in this planet, we are the flip of a switch away to a really bad time.
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Agreed. Yeah. The average lifespan is dropping. The average IQ is dropping. Fertility rates are really bad right now. It's not looking good for humans.
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No. Why do you think that is?
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I think it's by design.
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A
You think it's by design? Could be.
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B
I think there's a movement that wants
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A
that, you know, social media and living in a social media bubble that is tailor made for just you. So you're scrolling. Sean Kelly's doing his thing and you're looking at your algorithm feeding you stuff. You think the rest of the world is seeing what? You're scrolling. You're the only one on this planet. You're the only. You're one of 8 billion people that has that unique scroll. The person next to you has got their own scroll happening, and they think the world is all about their scroll. Right, Right. So you're into skateboards. I don't know if you are, but let's say you're into skateboards and you're in the skateboard scroll. Man, oh, man. New trucks coming out.
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B
I don't want.
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A
Oh, those wheels suck. And you think the rest of the world is on your skateboard trip or not. That's only for you. And that is by design. You're absolutely right. So brain cells being roasted. Intelligence going down. Yeah, it's by design. So much now is taking away from the exercise of the brain that, yeah, we could actually be. What was the movie with the robot? E E, E Wall E. Wall E. Wall E. What happened to humans on that ship? Fat, dumb and stupid while ago. Yeah, yeah, he did. You know, and that's, that's where we are at. It's kind of funny to control, to do everything else. And let's take away some intelligence. They think that the intelligence and everything that they need is right here. Well, okay, that is by design and, and control. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know how, I don't know how old you are, Sean.
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B
29.
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A
How old?
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B
29.
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A
Oh, man. Somebody help me. Okay, I graduated high school in 1981. Freak me out. What year were you born?
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B
97.
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A
So in 1990s. That was the year I was going to pull up in 1997. That's when the world changed. 1996, 1995. If you're old enough to remember things like AOL and Mozilla. Guys, remember Mozilla. Remember Alta Vista, right?
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B
Okay, Mozilla was Firefox, right?
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A
Or no, man, you are so young.
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B
I remember Firefox. I was a new thing when.
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A
I love this conversation. So. But what ended up happening is because of the magic of the Internet back then when there wasn't that many websites, there wasn't. It was a sense of discovery, of finding out about the world where you could go on aol and these were great days. It sounds so simple now, but I could chat in the buddy room, the friend room, whatever they call that little. Remember that. Talk to somebody in Israel or Africa in real time and make friends. That was crazy. And it was fun. But the invention of the Internet, back then, nobody saw what was about to happen. Its effect on society, its effect on intelligence, its effect on controlling capitalism and everything. No, it was just a fun thing to go and do and explore. We didn't realize what was going to happen very, very, very quickly. So from 1997, 1997, 1998, by the year 2000, flat screen TVs, digital Internet and everything started to happen. And then the social media experiment started to happen on society. And I can look back and I can pinpoint it and we didn't just like AI today, we didn't stop and go, okay, what are the implications for our children? What are the implications for society? How would governments or state actors take advantage of this? The idea of bots and AI and, and the effect on society and voting and opinions and cheese is good for you. You know, so that pops up. Oh, cheese is good. Cheese is bad for you. Oh, cheese is bad. Well, suddenly in a nanosecond, you can Affect the way people think. It wasn't like that before 1997. It was a different world Now. I've never known that world. Somebody like you that's got, you know, what do you have, 25 million followers or whatever it is. You say something, you are directly affecting somebody by the millions in the fraction of a second.
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That's pretty crazy when you put it that way.
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And, and we didn't understand that back then. We got ahead of our skis. We just let it happen with reckless abandonment.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Today we're kind of paying for it a little bit. So when you look at. When you look at aliens and you look at the paranormal, the supernatural and conspiracy theories, these are search terms that everybody is doing. They are literally. So they see that feed into the algorithm what is the interest of the planet and what is happening. And then suddenly they see that in social media, and that starts to affect the bubble to the point where we've got the White House, you know, this week going, you know what? You guys asked for it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
We're going to do a document dump. That wouldn't have happened 20 years ago. You didn't have that influence.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that ability. Yeah.
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B
That's why they dropped the Epstein files. They didn't want to drop those.
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A
No.
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B
They got so much pressure.
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A
I don't do politics, but I'll say this. I don't do politics. I. I just don't.
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B
I don't blame.
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A
I just get angry. I'm such an old man now, where I'm. I'm the old guy walking down the street. Oh, this. This man. And. But when you hear a representative of our government, without naming names, say, no, we can't arrest everybody in the Epstein files because society would collapse. Well, isn't that the way it's supposed to be? Sometimes you just got to start over.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, and if that's the case, if, if. If that kind of conspiracy, that kind of idea turns out to be real, as stated that it is, well, then maybe we do have a problem. Maybe we do really need to start arresting some people and, and have accountability to. To all of this. It's a frightening subject. But now we have the ability in this. And you're part of this, Sean. We have the ability to come up with something in the news cycle that will cover up something that is in the news cycle. It's the next biggest thing, and it happens by the minute. All day, Lawn, everybody's picking up their phone to see if the world changed in the last five minutes from the time that they last picked up their phone.
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B
I'm guilty of that, right?
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A
No, I'm right there. Right? We're all part of that. So now that they know this a good example, they. They take advantage of it. A good example is something like Covid, we don't need to get into the conspiracy of that. But that switch was flipped, and whoever the man is who is ever in control, if they were wondering if they could literally shut down the planet in a day, well, they found out that they could. What happened? In a week, flights are canceled, cruise ships are canceled, concerts are canceled, the NBA's canceled, major business, soccer society. Theaters, the roads, parks, everything was shut down in weeks. Gina and I were hosting coast to Coast. Yeah, I had, and so did she. On the front seat of my car, a Homeland Security letter that allowed me to drive on the streets during curfew. Wow.
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B
How'd you get that?
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A
Remember that? So I'm riding, I'm driving to coast and I am. Imagine this in Los Angeles. I am the only car on the freeway, period. Nobody. There's no cops, there's no. There's nothing. Wow. It was like.
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B
It's like a movie.
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A
It was. It was Charlton Heston in the Omega Man. Right? So her and I are driving to the studio. I've got the Homeland security letter on the front seat of my car, and I'm driving 150 miles an hour because there's nobody there. There was nobody on the streets. How does that happen? They figured out that it could happen and they could do it. Now, I'm not some grim reaper for the future, but somebody did it. Yeah. And it happened before we even think that. Oh, could this happen? No, it did.
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B
I'm ready for the next one. I got some MREs at home.
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I am so stocked, tons of water. I. I drive a jeep. Okay. I have a couple of Harleys and I'm into gas. I like that. No evs in my world. In the back of my jeep are bug out bags, tents, MREs, bugs, buckets of food, a couple of cases of water, and solar power, just in case.
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B
You're going to go on the road.
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A
Well, man, if they do it again, I'm going to the mountains and I'm good for at least 30 days. Right? But that's it. I never thought that I would think that way or be that way, but the whole world went through that together.
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B
And yeah, I definitely see a cyber attack in the future or something with a power goes ours.
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A
You know what I mean? What would be the craziest thing that could happen.
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B
I don't think a vaccine would work again. So I think they'd have to do some sort of cyber hack or cyber attack. Shut down electric grid.
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A
Some kind of cosmic blast from the sun. You know, some. Some crazy thing to blow out our satellites. The crazy. This is. You know what my Pandora's box is? I haven't talked about this. You guys have never heard me say that. This is my Pandora's box. I get up in the morning, I come downstairs to make my coffee, and there's no electricity. Okay, all right, I'll turn it on shortly. Now I'm running without coffee, but then I pick up my phone to check the electric company to see when the electricity is coming back on, but I've got no Internet. Wait a minute. Okay, I know there's no power, but my cell phone should still work, right? What's going on? If that happens and you have no news, neither do your neighbors, if the Internet gets blown out, satellites go down. If that really, really happens, how many days does it take for the supermarkets to run out of food?
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B
It'd be under one day, in my opinion.
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A
I would say two days. Yeah, right, right. But something really crazy. Yeah. Okay, so let's go out past that. How long before your neighbors are showing up to take your.
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B
Depends on your neighbors, Probably a week on average. I'd say a week.
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A
So in Los Angeles, we have two freeways that bring in all of our food. We have the 10, we have the five, all the farms and everything. How long before none of that is happening and you know, it's all shut down? That's my Pandora's box. I don't know. Could it be a natural? Could it be, you know, some crazy hacker from Russia that's unemployed and he's bored? Right. Oh, today I'm just going to shut down the Internet. You know what I mean? Yeah. And. But we are so dependent on this social media bubble and the Internet for all of our information. I don't know about your cell phone. A good friend of mine just walked in. Yeah, good friend of ours. I won't say his name, but he's up next. How much of my banking information is on this phone? All of it. Same for you. Don't. You don't have to say no. It's all there. Same for him and him and her and her and her. Where it's all. If all of that is gone, you've got no money, you've got nothing. And that is control. I think that is by design. You come up to a Come up to a convenience store. Typically. Normally we'll see somebody that's sitting there and asking for change. I give them cash, right? But what if I don't have cash and they have no banking? Right? Are we going to enter into a world where cash is no longer valuable? And if you are somebody that, that doesn't have a phone, you're a homeless person outside of how are you going to eat? How are you to going. Are you going to pay for. Is that by design? Is that like weeding things out, you know, to the left and to the right? I have no idea. That's why I have those MREs and gold bars, by the way. Lots of gold.
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B
Yeah, gold's a good thing to have these days too.
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A
Hardens of cigarettes or cigarettes, I don't know.
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B
That's the currency.
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A
That's the currency, yeah. Coffee would be a pretty good currency. Would it? Coyote beans? Yeah, for sure. You don't drink coffee? I do, but you look healthy.
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B
Not as much as you. Well, cost is. Coffee's good for you. Coffee ain't too bad for you.
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A
But is it? I'm not surprised that all of this has happened as quick as it did. And part of the reason is that 1997 number that you threw out there for. For us adults that watched it happen so fast that, that for us, it's a blur. For you, it's just a way of life. And my kids and, you know, that's the way that they've grown up and, and, and around it. But for me, we watch this happen very, very, very, very fast. Some of us enjoy the technology, but we kind of wanted to slow down and go, well, wait a minute. I remember when we had three channels.
[48:48]
B
Yeah. Well, guys, stuck up on your MREs. Check out conscious Life Expo. Check out Jimmy's show. Thanks for coming on, man.
[48:55]
A
Thank you so much, Sean. All right, all right. The question is, are you gonna start for the Lakers? I wish. No, you have a jump shot.
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B
I don't need me mid range.
[49:06]
A
So I'm gonna say this as we sign out. Sean and I are with our good friend over here. We're in. We're in Miami. We're on a big yacht. And Sean comes up to me. It was raining. Remember that? Remember the rain, right? So Sean, we're fighting for cover, but Sean comes up and he looks down at me and he says, hey, little man said, dude, I said that? Yeah. Sean, thank you so much.
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B
Have a go.
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A
All right, man.
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B
Thanks for watching all the way to the end, guys. Means a lot. Please click here if you want to watch the next episode. And please subscribe to the show. It helps us get more guests and helps grow the brand.

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Podcast Summary: The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Jimmy Church
Date: July 7, 2026

Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly sits down with renowned broadcaster and UFO researcher Jimmy Church for a wide-ranging, candid conversation on government disclosures, alien phenomena, the Antarctica enigma, media manipulation, AI, and societal change. Drawing on decades of radio experience, Church shares personal stories, provocative insights, and hard-earned wisdom around official secrecy and the persistent hunt for truth. The episode offers a compelling look at how cultural attitudes toward the unknown, control of information, and rapid technological change shape our world and our future.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Evolution of Broadcasting and Podcasting

Jimmy’s Radio Roots vs. Podcasting: Jimmy reminisces about starting in live radio before “podcasting” was even a word. He notes the shift in the industry and how “podcast” became pop culture almost overnight.
- "When I started, podcast wasn't a word. I'm so old they call me dinosaur." (00:52, Jimmy)
Changing Listener Metrics: Jimmy emphasizes he no longer obsesses over analytics, focusing instead on the value delivered to listeners and payments received.
- "If you put money to... Don't make that... If that's your goal, you're going to lose." (03:44, Jimmy)
- Sean admits he is still “obsessed” with analytics, highlighting different approaches to success. (02:58)

2. UFO Disclosure and Government Secrecy

Recent Developments: Obama’s admission (“Aliens are real”) triggered a new wave of interest and forced a response from the White House, with promises of disclosure and document releases.
- "With Obama, that was pretty big. And it was the way that he said it, 'Aliens are real.' Well, okay. Can't really misunderstand that statement, can you?" (00:00; repeated at 07:40 and 09:10, Jimmy)
Skepticism and Caution: Church urges patience—much of this has happened before, and it may just be another cycle with little real transparency.
- “Is it going to be a bunch of redacted stuff or is it going to include reverse engineering craft at Lockheed Skunk Works? ... We kind of have to wait and we'll see.” (09:17, Jimmy)
Vindication for the Community: Longtime UFO researchers feel both vindicated and cautious—noting a shift away from ridicule but still wary of official motives.
- "I want [the community] to be able to go, okay, the White House says it's so... I'm not crazy." (09:54, Jimmy)

3. Global Conspiracies and Legacy Programs

Discussion on how it’s not just the US; secrecy is likely global, sustained by enduring ‘legacy’ programs that outlast presidents.
- "Are these legacy programs in communication with other countries around the world? I would say the short answer to that is yes. And it's crazy." (18:41, Jimmy)

4. The Antarctica Mystery

Restricted Access and Satellite Imagery: Antarctica remains heavily restricted with large areas grayed out on Google Earth—a tip-off, Jimmy suggests, that something is being hidden.
- "You can go anywhere on Google Earth except for the center of Antarctica now. Okay, are they hiding something? Well, yeah, they are." (21:05, Jimmy)
Potential Civilization Under the Ice: They speculate about epoch-changing discoveries if the ice melts—potentially revealing a million-year-old city, which might be even more disruptive to society than proof of extraterrestrials.
- "If something like that is revealed in Antarctica, I think that would freak out the planet... that is the big lie." (20:30, Jimmy)

5. Google Earth, Pokemon Go, and Data Surveillance

CIA and DARPA Funding: Both Google Earth and Pokemon Go originated from technology funded by US intelligence agencies, designed for surveillance and control.
- "Google Earth was a CIA funded project... Pokémon Go, same thing. CIA funded." (21:59, Jimmy)
- On Pokemon Go as a surveillance tool: "They turn on the location, they turn on the microphone, they turn on your camera. Now they're listening to the asset sitting at the next table and collecting that information from a Pokemon Go game." (23:29, Jimmy)
Surveillance Creep: Modern tech (Ring, Alexa, ChatGPT) constantly listens—often justifying privacy fears.
- "I got rid of my Ring doorbell, I got rid of my Alexa, because that shit's listening too, man." (25:42, Sean)

6. AI’s Role in Society

Skepticism About AI: Jimmy is analog all the way, wary of handing over too much to algorithms—though he acknowledges creative use cases, like AI interviewing Nikola Tesla or Cleopatra.
- "I'm analog. I'm going to stay analog. I really appreciate the human element of life..." (28:47, Jimmy)
Loss of Human Connection: There’s concern over dehumanization, dumbing down, and loss of critical thinking.
- "So much now is taking away from the exercise of the brain..." (35:19, Jimmy)

7. Media Manipulation, Social Media Bubbles, and Societal Control

Social Media Bubbles: Each user is served a unique, tailored feed, reinforcing their worldview and making social manipulation easier.
- "You're one of 8 billion people that has that unique scroll." (33:31, Jimmy)
The Speed of Change: Contrasting pre- and post-Internet eras, Jimmy highlights the blissfully naive optimism at the Internet’s start and the out-of-control consequences since.
- "We didn't realize what was going to happen very, very, very quickly." (36:12, Jimmy)

8. Fear, Control, and the Fragility of Modern Society

Preparedness and Pandemic Lessons: Drawing on pandemic experiences and “societal switches,” Jimmy warns how dependent we’ve become on infrastructure and easy living.
- "If the internet gets blown out, satellites go down, how many days does it take for the supermarkets to run out of food?" (45:11, Jimmy)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Alien Disclosure
“The universe is a big place. There's a lot of life out there, and it's our right to know about it… You have no right to keep that secret from us. And I will fight for that.” (15:00, Jimmy)
On Secrecy and Accountability
“If that kind of conspiracy turns out to be real, as stated that it is, well, then maybe we do have a problem. Maybe we do really need to start arresting some people and have accountability...” (40:05, Jimmy)
On Preparedness
“In the back of my jeep are bug out bags, tents, MREs, buckets of food, a couple of cases of water, and solar power, just in case.” (43:11, Jimmy)
On Social Media and Manipulation
“Well, suddenly in a nanosecond, you can Affect the way people think. It wasn't like that before 1997. It was a different world.” (37:01, Jimmy)
On Global Secrecy
“Maybe it's just one big global conspiracy to keep this information from the problems. Like, there you said it. Yeah, that's exactly the issue.” (17:44, Jimmy referencing Obama)

Notable Timestamps

Podcasting vs. Live Radio: 00:52–03:44
Obama’s Alien Comments and Reaction: 05:02–10:07
History of UFO Community and Vindication: 10:07–11:46
Antarctica Theories and Google Earth Surveillance: 18:52–24:22
Surveillance Society: Ring, Alexa, Tech: 25:42–28:33
AI’s Impact and Future Uses: 28:38–30:58
Social Media Bubbles and Controlled Narratives: 33:31–38:39
COVID, Societal Shutdowns, and Preparedness: 41:02–43:38
The Fragility of Modern Systems: 44:03–47:46

Tone and Atmosphere

The episode maintains a conversational, sometimes conspiratorial, and unapologetically skeptical tone. Both Jimmy and Sean mix humor, casual anecdotes, and hard questions, creating an atmosphere that’s as entertaining as it is provocative.
The spirit is one of curiosity and defiance—Jimmy is unafraid to challenge conventional narratives and is deeply motivated by a sense of communal vindication and the right to truth.

Conclusion

This episode stands out for its blend of historical perspective, hard-earned skepticism, and unfiltered speculation. Whether exploring what’s hidden beneath Antarctic ice, the true motives behind alien disclosures, or the social manipulation achieved through modern technology, Jimmy Church challenges listeners to look past official stories and think for themselves. Both host and guest leave listeners with a sense of the profound impact secrecy and surveillance have had on society—and the importance of staying alert, connected, and prepared for whatever comes next.

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A
So your Pokemon Go sitting right there in the cell phone, and they turn on the location, they turn on the microphone, they turn on your camera. Now they're listening to the asset sitting at the next table and collecting that information from a Pokemon Go game. With Obama, that was pretty big. And it was the way that he said it, Aliens are real. Well, okay. Can't really misunderstand that statement, can you? Pretty direct, right? Aliens are real. If the Internet gets blown out, satellites go down, how many days does it take for the supermarkets to run out of food?
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B
Okay, guys, first guest at Conscious Life Expo. No other man than himself, Jimmy Church. Over 2,3000 podcast episodes, right?
[00:53]
A
On what? No, podcast is the wrong word. Yeah. Live radio. When I started, podcast wasn't a word. I'm so old they call me dinosaur. Right. But isn't that interesting where as. As we'll get started. We're now starting, I guess, is that as things moved on and live streaming and YouTube and, you know, podcast, podcast became a word. It became so much a pop culture that people would come at me and go, I dig your podcast. I've never done a podcast. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I do the live show. It goes out later into the archives and stuff, but it was never a podcast because when I started, podcast wasn't a word. Really strange how things have. Episodes. Yeah, Episodes. It. It's just. It's funny to me that society changed so quickly where a podcast and a thing in this news, you know, but it happened overnight. It wasn't like that for me for almost 10 years. Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Have you seen the viewership, like, increase, like compared to when you started?
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A
For me personally or for the industry in general?
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B
I guess for you personally, it, it, it flips.
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A
So the live. Okay. It's always been strong. I've never looked at numbers, and I did in the beginning. Right. We all look at numbers.
[02:30]
B
It's hard not to.
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A
Right. It's hard not to. So I don't look at them anymore. What I do look at is payments. Right.
[02:40]
B
I see that. Giving money.
[02:41]
A
So that's where my gauge is. And so I could. Okay, so everything is still solid. But no, I don't look at all of the individual streams and Apple or whatever or Spotify or any interesting take.
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B
And Lex Friedman does that too, by the way.
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A
Right.
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B
I don't know if you knew that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I'm so obsessed with my analytics. I'm like the complete opposite.
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A
I was so into analytics in the beginning, and once everything was like a smooth machine. Right. And it's running. I kind of disengaged. My focus was always trying to bring knowledge out of a guest and where I learned something, and then that turns around and filters out into the community. That was always my goal. Here's the thing. Okay. I know we're going to talk about some other subjects, but this is important. So many that want to get into what you and I are doing, they're chasing money. That's the wrong goal.
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B
Yeah.
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A
If you put money to. Don't. Don't make that. If that's your goal, you're going to lose. Make the goal being the best you can be, the best show that you can be the best host and learn the craft of the interview. If the audience resonates with that, the money comes later. And it's going to come like you want it to.
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B
Agree.
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A
But. But if that's your focus in the beginning, get out of the game.
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B
Can't be your main focus at first.
[04:08]
A
And it's a focus for everybody.
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B
I lost a ton of money at first, actually.
[04:11]
A
Yeah. I don't even want to get into that. I spent so many years going, oh, man. Right. But things are fine now, but it's only because I didn't chase the money.
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B
Absolutely. Hey, guys, you know I don't do promos for just anybody. The only reason I'm talking about Legends right now is because they completely flipped the script. Look, the reason I know it's different is because I actually met the team in person in Las Vegas. I trust these guys, and how they run the site changes everything. Legends is a premium US Sweepstakes casino. It's free to play, and when you win, they feature lightning fast Redemptions. They have a massive game variety. Hundreds of premium slots, sports, and live tables you can play entirely for free. Stop dealing with platforms that lock up your funds. Hit my link right now and go see why Legends has earned its name. Hit the link below. I do want to move on to Alien because there's a lot.
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A
Let's go.
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B
I mean, you saw the Obama stuff. You saw Trent just announced the files.
[05:05]
A
Yep.
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B
What's going on, in your opinion?
[05:07]
A
I almost want to ask you the same thing. Right. Because we're all talking about it. Yeah. The. The community itself. Sean, if you have been involved with the community for the last 10, 20, 30, 40 years, we've heard all of this before. This is nothing new. We have gone through the valleys and the mountains and riding through this. There have been huge moments like this that are going down right now in the past where we were like okay, this is it. This is happening. There was a time when Roswell was new, okay? And that was 1980. Nobody knew about Roswell before that. So that comes out. All the books, all the, okay, it's here. Disclosures here. MJ12 documents come out. Oh, you know, it's here. Bob Lazar comes out. You know, 1990, that was a big deal. Okay. Just, we've been through this before.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So if we go back to something like 2017, Tom DeLonge, PTSA, New York Times, all of that hits. Okay? So that attracted a new wave of people's interest into the subject. For those they thought it was easy. I was like, oh, New York Times, front page, right. Tom DeLong, here we go. Videos. The Nimitz disclosure is here. That was nine years ago. Nine years ago. TTSA is gone.
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B
You know what I mean?
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A
It was like this blip in the radar. Well, we're used to this. But in combination with not only 2017, but the, the awareness that has come from this, suddenly the conversation is out front and we do have hearings and we have Congress and the media is now, you know, talking about this subject. Whistleblowers are coming forward where it's, it's not a taboo subject that it was before. Right. Tinfoil hats and the conspiracy crowd. Well, now it turns out we are on the right side of history. So on with all of that has forced what we have seen in the last couple of days with Obama, that was pretty, pretty big. And it was the way that he said it, aliens are real. Well, okay, you can't really misunderstand that statement, can you? Pretty direct, right?
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B
Very confident.
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A
Yeah. Aliens are real. Two days later to have the White House do this spin on that. And they did two spins. The first one was Obama shouldn't have said it. State secrets. The second is, well, okay, we're going to do this document dump and I'm ordering and, you know, we're going to move this forward. How do we address that? I would say that with the community. And I can speak for the community. With the community. Okay, we need to wait. Let's see what actually happens. If you get excited and you jump in the deep end of the pool, there's some disappointment there. So do we just ride this out? Is it going to be a bunch of redacted stuff or is it going to include reverse engineering craft at Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, California? Is it going to talk about these legacy programs? Is, is it going to talk about aliens on ice at Area 51? Are we going to See this videos, Are we going to see the film? Are we going to see images? Is it going to be that? Or is it going to be a bunch of cases that we've already known about before and there's nothing new, so we kind of have to wait and we'll see. It's tangible. It feels like there's some movement here for the first time, I. I love this community. I've been doing this for such a long time. It's been a big part of my life that for the community itself, I want them. I want the husbands, the wives, the children that can't talk about this subject with their families. They. They're your employers, your, you know, your friends at school, whatever. You can't. You just can't talk. I want them to be able to go, okay, the White House says it's so. And I've been talking about this for a long time. I'm not crazy. There's something going on. That's what I want for the community. And I think that we're right there. They're feeling it. And because of their voice and the loudness of everything, it seems like we kept the pressure on long enough to have, for the first time, the White House to say something as dramatic as they did. We're going to do a full. That's it. Whatever we got is yours. Okay, let's see what happens.
[10:08]
B
Yeah, you guys have tucked it out for decades. Hats off to you, man, because you were looked at crazy all this time, right?
[10:13]
A
Rolling that rock uphill, man. Yeah, it never stopped. It never stopped. He. With me, I grew up. I shouldn't say grow up, but I remember when Coast to coast first started and I lived across the street from the CO studios right here in. In Los Angeles, in the Valley. And I thought at that time, if I could just get on that show, if I could host that show, I could ask the right questions, I could help the community. I could do all of this. I go. I go back to college for broadcast and journalism. This was going to be my career. I go back to college and one of my teachers was from cnn. And so we're doing this whatever thing in school and. And I interrupted him and he was talking about the process of bringing stories to a news director and how you do that. I said, something that you can't make up, okay, what about the UFOs? He goes, what? I said, what if I have a case, a UFO case, you know, and I'm from the streets and I'm a reporter and I take it and this Thing. And I've got him. Dude, never say UFO in your career. Don't do it. It's the kiss of death.
[11:46]
B
Wow.
[11:46]
A
And when he said that, I know exactly what I want to do. So my laser focus was coast to coast. And to be that person bringing this knowledge to the world. And I've been doing this for a long, long time. And this is the first time in all of these years after the advice from somebody from cnn, don't do this. Seven years on coast, feeling really good about the community and everything else. But the barometer for me was, how far do I take this? Am I offending the fcc? Am I offending the corporation that I'm working for? Or do I say screw it, let everything hang out and push this thing forward? Well, now this is the first time. Now it's 2026, man. I've been doing this since 2008. Right. So think about that. And so this is the first time where even I am happy, but I've got to relax and kind of pull back a little bit. We still have to wait a little longer. Let's see what this is. We don't even know if it's going to happen. Right. The announcement has been done, but we don't know.
[13:07]
B
Yeah.
[13:08]
A
And the other part of it, okay, this is where you get controversial. Don't care about offending people. Is this announcement to cover up other stuff that's in the news? Is it hiding? I'm going to say it. Epstein. Right, The Epstein. Is it that or the other issues that are going on right now? We have an election year, the midterms are coming up. Is this part of that? I don't know. So it will be judged on what. What is revealed. Let's see, is it real? Is it pages full of retractions or is it going to be real stuff? But it's big news, isn't it?
[13:47]
B
Yeah. I mean, you've interviewed people that have seen some of these files, right? Yes, I know. Linda, Howie, a few other guests that have show. So if they actually release those, they can confirm it, that they've seen them.
[14:00]
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The. The word that comes up. I was. I was interviewed. I was interviewed by the BBC and they come in and they wanted to know they were using the B word. Is this vindication? How do you feel? Is this vindication? I said, no, we need to give this some time. Is this disclosure? Is this it? I would like it to be. I don't feel vindicated on anything because nothing truly has happened yet. The conversation is there. Okay. Hiding behind and you've heard this so many times. Well, it's a national security issue. Yeah. Can I swear?
[14:46]
B
Yeah.
[14:46]
A
Are you guys cool with that? National security is. And let me tell you why. ET and aliens, life in the universe. That's a fundamental right as an Earthling.
[15:01]
B
You can't.
[15:02]
A
You want to keep dolphins secret for me in the ocean. But that's its nature. What's secretive about that? So what is secretive? What is. So what's a national security issue about alien life? The universe is a big place. There's a lot of life out there, and it's our right to know about it. If there's some secret technology that we don't want the Chinese to get a hold of because it's a. Okay, that makes sense. All right, I'm okay with that. I'm on. I want to be safe. But life in general has. Has it visited this planet and do you know about it? That's our fundamental right. You have no right to keep that secret from us. And I will fight for that. And that's the part that really gets under my skin. As soon as they say national security and they want put. To put fear on this subject, that's wrong. Right. And that's lying to the planet. It's lying to everybody else.
[15:59]
B
Yeah. Because not only are they gatekeeping it, they want us to fear aliens and UFOs.
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A
And if you're keeping that from us, what else are you hiding? Right. If there's that lie, what else is a lie? So I think it's really a good time to just be honest the first time. A lot to ask, isn't it? Yeah, it's a lot to ask. But government. Could we be at that moment now? You've been doing this for a long time. Yeah, I'll. I'll flip this on you. I'm a host. That's what I. But what do you think? Do you think that the media is. Is part of this push to bring this out? Do you think that there's a real concern with Congress and the Senate to bring the truth out? Because Congress and the Senate have been lied to about this and they're finding out really quickly that this community wasn't wrong. Right. They're being told you don't have the clearance to. To look into this. Wait a minute. We're the ones cutting the checks. So we need to know what's going on. So if honesty actually happens, not only with the United States, it's a global issue. I am sure that Russia, China, Israel, Brazil, Canada. Pick a country. ET is part of. It's not just the United States. So is it something where globally, that the state actors want to keep this from us for their own reasons?
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B
Yeah.
[17:26]
A
Okay, all right. If it's technology, fine. But life in the universe and everything else dealing with nature is not. Should never be kept from us.
[17:36]
B
Yeah. That's always the part that puzzled me the most about UFOs and aliens. I could see the US gatekeeping that information, but every other country as well. It's kind of mind blowing to me.
[17:44]
A
Obama said it, didn't he? He said, well, maybe it's just one big global conspiracy to keep this information from the problems. Like there, you said it. Yeah, that's exactly the issue. Just maybe, and I know this is scary to somebody sitting in office, but no, maybe you're not supposed to know. The legacy programs that are running this, they're in the background. The president comes and goes every four years. If you're lucky, it's eight years. Well, the people running it, this is their career in the background. And a president can come and go, but the programs still continue. And just maybe president doesn't know about it or know a lot about it.
[18:28]
B
That's crazy.
[18:29]
A
So, yeah, yeah, everything's on the table. And it's the same thing with, with all of the state actors around the world. They're dealing with the same thing. So are these legacy programs in communication with other countries around the world? I would say the short answer to that is yes. And it's crazy. That's the big conspiracy that Obama was talking about, right?
[18:51]
B
Yeah.
[18:51]
A
Very strange.
[18:52]
B
I mean, in Antarctica they're doing that too.
[18:54]
A
Very. I want that ice to melt so bad. I want global warming to just take this thing over.
[19:01]
B
That was a scam too.
[19:02]
A
Well, so I believe that one growing up. This is going to be a good conversation. Here's the thing. The question that I think is on everybody's mind, including my own. Let's say the ice melts. Let's say it melts and a city is revealed that is a million years old. Could the planet handle that? I think the planet can handle e T way before finding out that there was something else before us. It's a really big deal.
[19:36]
B
Interesting.
[19:36]
A
Yeah, that's a really big deal. Be careful what you ask for.
[19:41]
B
Yeah. That would change the history books.
[19:42]
A
That would change every. That would freak people out. Why? We've been lied to.
[19:49]
B
Right? Yeah.
[19:50]
A
Isn't that crazy? Where when you look at Egypt, everything is 3000 BC. Nothing before that. Nothing to see here. Gobekli Tepe Happens and that pushes things back 10,000 years, but that's it. There's nothing else before that. And we keep going back and we have dinosaurs, but. But no. And so if, if something like that is revealed in Antarctica, I think that would freak out the planet. I really do. I really do. That would. That people would lose their minds because that is the big lie. And did universities know this? Does the government, the Vatican know about this?
[20:31]
B
It goes deep.
[20:32]
A
It goes way.
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B
Who made the history textbooks?
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A
I think that would unravel things.
[20:36]
B
Yeah, I think a lot of people are waking up to history being a lie. His story. Right, right. We don't know how much of a lie. That's the scary part.
[20:44]
A
Could we handle it? What do you think? Do you think we could handle it? E.T. i think is easy. It's like E.T.
[20:52]
B
i could get around.
[20:53]
A
Right, right.
[20:54]
B
But an ancient civilization that's still alive in Antarctica and you're not allowed there. You know, lots of part people don't like, you can't go there. There's crazy videos of people trying to like fly over it and can't do it. They get arrested by some weird agents.
[21:06]
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Tend to people ask me all the time, they go, okay, so what proof do you have of this? I go, dude, go to Google Earth, look at Antarctica and look what's grayed out. Almost all of it. Yeah, you see the fringes, you know, you see that. But the center of Antarctica is grayed out. Why? How many satellites do we have imaging this planet? Thousands. Everything is photographed, everything is image, everything is there. You can go anywhere on Google Earth except for the center of Antarctica now. Okay, are they hiding something? Well, yeah, they are. If you want proof of that, you tell me why they are doing that.
[21:48]
B
Yeah, so there's plenty of people that try to remote view it and they can't access it as well. They get kicked out.
[21:54]
A
You want me to blow your mind? Yeah, Google Earth, the software.
[21:59]
B
Software.
[22:00]
A
I'm going to make this announcement right now. Google Earth was a CIA funded project. So when Google Earth under another name, which by the way, Pokeman go. Yeah, I was planning it this morning, same thing. CIA funded. No, no, I'm not making this up. You can Wikipedia this.
[22:23]
B
Wow.
[22:24]
A
So the original funding, the way that Pokemon and Google Earth and GPS all operate same software, same system. So the original funding from the CIA going into DARPA was to develop that technology. And the reason for it before Google happened was guided musician munitions in Iraq. So all of those original guided bombs, that was all a CIA funded thing with darpa. Google came in, took over the technology, bought it. Google Earth happened. So there you go. So now the control of that. Would the CIA have an interest in influence of Google Earth with imaging of something like Antarctica or other spots in the world that you see grayed out on Google Earth or blued out? Well, yeah. The answer is yes.
[23:22]
B
Easily.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
[23:23]
B
You go to any country, the map looks different. Their agencies are portraying the map in a certain way, the world map.
[23:29]
A
When you play Pokemon Go, we'll get back to aliens. But Pokemon Go's interesting. So the technology is there. What would be great for the CIA or any agency to collect information on somebody? You would do it like this. You've got people playing Pokemon Go, okay. And you know where they are at. And there's an asset that you want to collect information on in a Starbucks. So your Pokemon Go sitting right there in the cell phone and they turn on the location, they turn on the microphone, they turn on your camera. Now they're listening to the assets sitting at the next table and collecting that information from a Pokemon Go game. Now.
[24:23]
B
Wow.
[24:25]
A
Oblivious, right? Society to this. Not only is the technology there, but I am telling you as fact, the CIA funded all of that. So I sound like some crazy conspiracy guy. So on one of my TV shows for History, we covered this subject. And without saying the names, the CEO and the people that are involved with not only Google Earth and Google Maps and Pokemon Go are all from the same umbrella situation with the funding. So I set up an interview with him up in San Francisco. My producers did, and we were going. And I'm going to hit him with this. We're doing a full segment on this entire subject. And they said, yes, we're cool. And then they said, no, but we still did it. And it was released. And, and, and for that season on, on History Channel. And I'm pretty proud of that. I had so many people turn around and contact me. We just thought it sounded too crazy. I mean, but it turned out to be real. So all you have to do is just, just, just go and do a little research on it.
[25:43]
B
It does not surprise me. I got rid of my Ring doorbell, I got rid of my Alexa, because that shit's listening to, man. Well, Ring just got in trouble. Actually, they did. They were recording something and then they used it.
[25:54]
A
The, the kidnapping that happened. Right. A couple of weeks ago. So she didn't pay her. I think it was Ring. Right. She didn't pay her bill. So technically it shouldn't be recording video. That's where they got the Images. And they contacted Google and they were able to go into the. And find. What did they call it? I forget the term that they used. Ghost imaging. Random imaging. We were able to go back and grab like. Wait, so you could do this with anybody with a ring camera that. It doesn't even have an active account. Is it recording? Yeah, the security state might like with something like Pokemon Go. I can't tell you how many times where I've had a conversation that. About some obscure subject, but then it shows up in my feed 10 minutes later.
[26:55]
B
Yeah.
[26:56]
A
And where they want to. Well, we're not doing that. Right.
[27:01]
B
What an odds.
[27:02]
A
Right? Right. I've been having a conversation with some friends. Now this is how crazy and obscure this was. Everybody listen to this. Having a conversation with a friend because I was out at his compound, hang gliding, and he had these really cool wire rails around this patio. Right. Instead of wood or steel. Right. Wire cable. Braided cable. I was like, wow, man, I gotta do this at my house. This would look good in my living room. So what is it? Man? This is braided cable railings. Oh, okay. All right. I'm at my house a couple hours later, sitting on the patio, drinking coffee. Scroll. There's an ad on my phone for custom braided cable stair railings. I didn't even know there was such a thing. And it's on my phone now. Wait a minute. How does that happen? Just explain it to me like I'm four years old and. And I'll get it. But don't tell me that it's not happening, because that's a lie. Yeah, it's crazy. So the Pokeman thing, then, the ability to. To monitor. You've got a free, you know, secret agent service that's running all the way across the country. And if you know where you want to be and you want to see if that phone is active, then you can just turn everything on. And it has nothing to do with recording you, but it may be to monitor somebody else. But they are listening.
[28:33]
B
That is scary.
[28:34]
A
Yeah.
[28:34]
B
Yeah. I just found out AI is no different. ChatGPT. They're saving all your chat logs.
[28:38]
A
They're reporting it to the government as well. Do you use it?
[28:41]
B
I do, but I might stop. I just found this out recently from Robert Edward Grant. So I don't know if there's a better AI. What about you?
[28:47]
A
My producers use it. Okay. They use AI to generate artwork and to advertise. But do we use it for research? Do. Do I speak to it? Do I pull in? Do I put No, I am firmly. I'm analog. I'm going to stay analog. I'm going to stay analog. I really appreciate the human element of life and learning and researching and communicating. I just don't want to tap out into the AI World. I realize I can't change things. It is what it is. I think we're ahead of our skis a little bit, and we haven't stopped to try to figure this stuff out. But as long as money motivates corporations and what AI Is doing right now, you really can't stop it. I did have an idea. I'm going to give you an idea. You ready?
[29:40]
B
Yeah.
[29:40]
A
You can steal it. You can use it. What if you used AI Everybody in the room, listen. My producers. Oh, both of my producers are here. They snuck in. Now I'm all nervous. Thanks. So at coast to Coast. Yeah. Woman to the right. My producer behind the glass. And I'm doing the show and she's back there. Yeah, that was my. I always knew if I asked a good question, I would look up. I needed to see Gina behind the glass. I love it. So those are both of my producers. But here's an idea. What if you did this show, but you're interviewing Tesla, Nikola Tesla. What if you're interviewing King Tut now, you've got the voice loaded, you've got the chat bot running, you've got. You've got a virtual image up and you. And they're tapping into the entire database of some historical figure. Cleopatra. Right. And you were able to do that. I think that's a good use of AI Great. That would be a lot of fun.
[30:55]
B
But it's been done before.
[30:56]
A
No, it hasn't.
[30:57]
B
It's been done.
[30:57]
A
You're stealing my idea.
[30:59]
B
You know, there's someone on YouTube that interviews dead people. He. He does a fake Joe Rogan, and then he has that Joe Rogan interview. Dead people?
[31:07]
A
Really?
[31:07]
B
Yeah. And it gets a lot of views.
[31:09]
A
Well, Michelle, it was a good idea for a minute.
[31:14]
B
Yeah. Yeah. I've interviewed a robot.
[31:16]
A
Have you?
[31:17]
B
Yeah. They. They respond too slow, though, so it's a little awkward of an interview. Right, right. For now. That's going to shame. That's going to train rook. But they're going to be talking faster than us soon.
[31:25]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so this is my other take. Let's go back to Aliens for a second. Okay. So many. Because of movies, I think, but so many want. Including my friends. I love them all, but they want E. T. To save us. Right. It's like what you know, you know, our bro, what was it, Independence Day or Mars Attacks? One of those movies, and somebody's on the roof of a building holding up a sign, you know, come save us. Yeah, right. Okay. No, no, we don't need E.T. to save us. But what I think E.T. could teach us and tell us is that maybe numbers and math and everything else is not the future. Consciousness is. There's another element to this that you guys aren't open to on this planet. And so it wouldn't be to save us, but that little piece of guidance to us would be fundamental to everything in our future, where we could take another look at things and approach it that way. My question to ET Wouldn't be, okay, man. Cure for cancer, you know, zero point energy. You know, med beds. Yeah, yeah, med beds, Exactly. It wouldn't be that. Yeah. I would ask ET how did you guys survive? How did you guys not kill each other? How did you guys grow up and mature and were able to advance into and evolve into another civilization? Because right now in this planet, we are the flip of a switch away to a really bad time.
[33:15]
B
Agreed. Yeah. The average lifespan is dropping. The average IQ is dropping. Fertility rates are really bad right now. It's not looking good for humans.
[33:23]
A
No. Why do you think that is?
[33:25]
B
I think it's by design.
[33:27]
A
You think it's by design? Could be.
[33:29]
B
I think there's a movement that wants
[33:32]
A
that, you know, social media and living in a social media bubble that is tailor made for just you. So you're scrolling. Sean Kelly's doing his thing and you're looking at your algorithm feeding you stuff. You think the rest of the world is seeing what? You're scrolling. You're the only one on this planet. You're the only. You're one of 8 billion people that has that unique scroll. The person next to you has got their own scroll happening, and they think the world is all about their scroll. Right, Right. So you're into skateboards. I don't know if you are, but let's say you're into skateboards and you're in the skateboard scroll. Man, oh, man. New trucks coming out.
[34:19]
B
I don't want.
[34:20]
A
Oh, those wheels suck. And you think the rest of the world is on your skateboard trip or not. That's only for you. And that is by design. You're absolutely right. So brain cells being roasted. Intelligence going down. Yeah, it's by design. So much now is taking away from the exercise of the brain that, yeah, we could actually be. What was the movie with the robot? E E, E Wall E. Wall E. Wall E. What happened to humans on that ship? Fat, dumb and stupid while ago. Yeah, yeah, he did. You know, and that's, that's where we are at. It's kind of funny to control, to do everything else. And let's take away some intelligence. They think that the intelligence and everything that they need is right here. Well, okay, that is by design and, and control. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know how, I don't know how old you are, Sean.
[35:27]
B
29.
[35:28]
A
How old?
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B
29.
[35:29]
A
Oh, man. Somebody help me. Okay, I graduated high school in 1981. Freak me out. What year were you born?
[35:40]
B
97.
[35:44]
A
So in 1990s. That was the year I was going to pull up in 1997. That's when the world changed. 1996, 1995. If you're old enough to remember things like AOL and Mozilla. Guys, remember Mozilla. Remember Alta Vista, right?
[36:05]
B
Okay, Mozilla was Firefox, right?
[36:08]
A
Or no, man, you are so young.
[36:09]
B
I remember Firefox. I was a new thing when.
[36:13]
A
I love this conversation. So. But what ended up happening is because of the magic of the Internet back then when there wasn't that many websites, there wasn't. It was a sense of discovery, of finding out about the world where you could go on aol and these were great days. It sounds so simple now, but I could chat in the buddy room, the friend room, whatever they call that little. Remember that. Talk to somebody in Israel or Africa in real time and make friends. That was crazy. And it was fun. But the invention of the Internet, back then, nobody saw what was about to happen. Its effect on society, its effect on intelligence, its effect on controlling capitalism and everything. No, it was just a fun thing to go and do and explore. We didn't realize what was going to happen very, very, very quickly. So from 1997, 1997, 1998, by the year 2000, flat screen TVs, digital Internet and everything started to happen. And then the social media experiment started to happen on society. And I can look back and I can pinpoint it and we didn't just like AI today, we didn't stop and go, okay, what are the implications for our children? What are the implications for society? How would governments or state actors take advantage of this? The idea of bots and AI and, and the effect on society and voting and opinions and cheese is good for you. You know, so that pops up. Oh, cheese is good. Cheese is bad for you. Oh, cheese is bad. Well, suddenly in a nanosecond, you can Affect the way people think. It wasn't like that before 1997. It was a different world Now. I've never known that world. Somebody like you that's got, you know, what do you have, 25 million followers or whatever it is. You say something, you are directly affecting somebody by the millions in the fraction of a second.
[38:30]
B
That's pretty crazy when you put it that way.
[38:32]
A
And, and we didn't understand that back then. We got ahead of our skis. We just let it happen with reckless abandonment.
[38:39]
B
Yeah.
[38:40]
A
Today we're kind of paying for it a little bit. So when you look at. When you look at aliens and you look at the paranormal, the supernatural and conspiracy theories, these are search terms that everybody is doing. They are literally. So they see that feed into the algorithm what is the interest of the planet and what is happening. And then suddenly they see that in social media, and that starts to affect the bubble to the point where we've got the White House, you know, this week going, you know what? You guys asked for it.
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B
Yeah.
[39:16]
A
We're going to do a document dump. That wouldn't have happened 20 years ago. You didn't have that influence.
[39:22]
B
Yeah.
[39:22]
A
And that ability. Yeah.
[39:23]
B
That's why they dropped the Epstein files. They didn't want to drop those.
[39:26]
A
No.
[39:26]
B
They got so much pressure.
[39:28]
A
I don't do politics, but I'll say this. I don't do politics. I. I just don't.
[39:33]
B
I don't blame.
[39:34]
A
I just get angry. I'm such an old man now, where I'm. I'm the old guy walking down the street. Oh, this. This man. And. But when you hear a representative of our government, without naming names, say, no, we can't arrest everybody in the Epstein files because society would collapse. Well, isn't that the way it's supposed to be? Sometimes you just got to start over.
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B
Yeah.
[40:05]
A
You know, and if that's the case, if, if. If that kind of conspiracy, that kind of idea turns out to be real, as stated that it is, well, then maybe we do have a problem. Maybe we do really need to start arresting some people and, and have accountability to. To all of this. It's a frightening subject. But now we have the ability in this. And you're part of this, Sean. We have the ability to come up with something in the news cycle that will cover up something that is in the news cycle. It's the next biggest thing, and it happens by the minute. All day, Lawn, everybody's picking up their phone to see if the world changed in the last five minutes from the time that they last picked up their phone.
[41:01]
B
I'm guilty of that, right?
[41:02]
A
No, I'm right there. Right? We're all part of that. So now that they know this a good example, they. They take advantage of it. A good example is something like Covid, we don't need to get into the conspiracy of that. But that switch was flipped, and whoever the man is who is ever in control, if they were wondering if they could literally shut down the planet in a day, well, they found out that they could. What happened? In a week, flights are canceled, cruise ships are canceled, concerts are canceled, the NBA's canceled, major business, soccer society. Theaters, the roads, parks, everything was shut down in weeks. Gina and I were hosting coast to Coast. Yeah, I had, and so did she. On the front seat of my car, a Homeland Security letter that allowed me to drive on the streets during curfew. Wow.
[42:12]
B
How'd you get that?
[42:14]
A
Remember that? So I'm riding, I'm driving to coast and I am. Imagine this in Los Angeles. I am the only car on the freeway, period. Nobody. There's no cops, there's no. There's nothing. Wow. It was like.
[42:36]
B
It's like a movie.
[42:37]
A
It was. It was Charlton Heston in the Omega Man. Right? So her and I are driving to the studio. I've got the Homeland security letter on the front seat of my car, and I'm driving 150 miles an hour because there's nobody there. There was nobody on the streets. How does that happen? They figured out that it could happen and they could do it. Now, I'm not some grim reaper for the future, but somebody did it. Yeah. And it happened before we even think that. Oh, could this happen? No, it did.
[43:09]
B
I'm ready for the next one. I got some MREs at home.
[43:12]
A
I am so stocked, tons of water. I. I drive a jeep. Okay. I have a couple of Harleys and I'm into gas. I like that. No evs in my world. In the back of my jeep are bug out bags, tents, MREs, bugs, buckets of food, a couple of cases of water, and solar power, just in case.
[43:38]
B
You're going to go on the road.
[43:39]
A
Well, man, if they do it again, I'm going to the mountains and I'm good for at least 30 days. Right? But that's it. I never thought that I would think that way or be that way, but the whole world went through that together.
[43:54]
B
And yeah, I definitely see a cyber attack in the future or something with a power goes ours.
[44:00]
A
You know what I mean? What would be the craziest thing that could happen.
[44:04]
B
I don't think a vaccine would work again. So I think they'd have to do some sort of cyber hack or cyber attack. Shut down electric grid.
[44:12]
A
Some kind of cosmic blast from the sun. You know, some. Some crazy thing to blow out our satellites. The crazy. This is. You know what my Pandora's box is? I haven't talked about this. You guys have never heard me say that. This is my Pandora's box. I get up in the morning, I come downstairs to make my coffee, and there's no electricity. Okay, all right, I'll turn it on shortly. Now I'm running without coffee, but then I pick up my phone to check the electric company to see when the electricity is coming back on, but I've got no Internet. Wait a minute. Okay, I know there's no power, but my cell phone should still work, right? What's going on? If that happens and you have no news, neither do your neighbors, if the Internet gets blown out, satellites go down. If that really, really happens, how many days does it take for the supermarkets to run out of food?
[45:17]
B
It'd be under one day, in my opinion.
[45:18]
A
I would say two days. Yeah, right, right. But something really crazy. Yeah. Okay, so let's go out past that. How long before your neighbors are showing up to take your.
[45:35]
B
Depends on your neighbors, Probably a week on average. I'd say a week.
[45:39]
A
So in Los Angeles, we have two freeways that bring in all of our food. We have the 10, we have the five, all the farms and everything. How long before none of that is happening and you know, it's all shut down? That's my Pandora's box. I don't know. Could it be a natural? Could it be, you know, some crazy hacker from Russia that's unemployed and he's bored? Right. Oh, today I'm just going to shut down the Internet. You know what I mean? Yeah. And. But we are so dependent on this social media bubble and the Internet for all of our information. I don't know about your cell phone. A good friend of mine just walked in. Yeah, good friend of ours. I won't say his name, but he's up next. How much of my banking information is on this phone? All of it. Same for you. Don't. You don't have to say no. It's all there. Same for him and him and her and her and her. Where it's all. If all of that is gone, you've got no money, you've got nothing. And that is control. I think that is by design. You come up to a Come up to a convenience store. Typically. Normally we'll see somebody that's sitting there and asking for change. I give them cash, right? But what if I don't have cash and they have no banking? Right? Are we going to enter into a world where cash is no longer valuable? And if you are somebody that, that doesn't have a phone, you're a homeless person outside of how are you going to eat? How are you to going. Are you going to pay for. Is that by design? Is that like weeding things out, you know, to the left and to the right? I have no idea. That's why I have those MREs and gold bars, by the way. Lots of gold.
[47:46]
B
Yeah, gold's a good thing to have these days too.
[47:48]
A
Hardens of cigarettes or cigarettes, I don't know.
[47:52]
B
That's the currency.
[47:53]
A
That's the currency, yeah. Coffee would be a pretty good currency. Would it? Coyote beans? Yeah, for sure. You don't drink coffee? I do, but you look healthy.
[48:02]
B
Not as much as you. Well, cost is. Coffee's good for you. Coffee ain't too bad for you.
[48:07]
A
But is it? I'm not surprised that all of this has happened as quick as it did. And part of the reason is that 1997 number that you threw out there for. For us adults that watched it happen so fast that, that for us, it's a blur. For you, it's just a way of life. And my kids and, you know, that's the way that they've grown up and, and, and around it. But for me, we watch this happen very, very, very, very fast. Some of us enjoy the technology, but we kind of wanted to slow down and go, well, wait a minute. I remember when we had three channels.
[48:48]
B
Yeah. Well, guys, stuck up on your MREs. Check out conscious Life Expo. Check out Jimmy's show. Thanks for coming on, man.
[48:55]
A
Thank you so much, Sean. All right, all right. The question is, are you gonna start for the Lakers? I wish. No, you have a jump shot.
[49:04]
B
I don't need me mid range.
[49:06]
A
So I'm gonna say this as we sign out. Sean and I are with our good friend over here. We're in. We're in Miami. We're on a big yacht. And Sean comes up to me. It was raining. Remember that? Remember the rain, right? So Sean, we're fighting for cover, but Sean comes up and he looks down at me and he says, hey, little man said, dude, I said that? Yeah. Sean, thank you so much.
[49:33]
B
Have a go.
[49:33]
A
All right, man.
[49:35]
B
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