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The Dark Truth About Birth Control Big Pharma Won't Tell You | Madison Brecka DSH #948
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🚨 The birth control industry's dark secrets exposed! 💊 Discover the shocking truth about hormonal contraceptives and their impact on women's health. Madison Brecka, nurse and wellness expert, reveals eye-opening insights on birth control, fertility, and the pharmaceutical industry's hidden agenda.
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Gary Brecker
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Madison Brea
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Host
All right guys, her first podcast ever. Madison Brea thanks for coming on.
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Madison Brea
I'm a little nervous, but you're super easy to talk to and I've watched your reels a lot. I've watched you do a few pods with a few family members and friends, so I'm pretty comfortable. I did some box breathing just now beforehand, so I'm like, power of breath work, right? Yeah. I mean actually box breathing is known as nature's Xanax. Even like Special Forces is using it now kind of Just to help calm the nervous system. Because my brain works really fast. I'm dyslexic, so I used to get in trouble all the time in school for they thought I was cheating because I would take exams so fast because I would just, like, read the word and then read the answer, and I got in trouble all the time. So sometimes when I'm nervous, I tend to stutter because my words just come out so fast. My brain's, like, going so fast.
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Host
So that's so relatable. I used to finish tests first, and I wouldn't hand it in until I.
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Madison Brea
Saw someone sit there and be like, okay, I'm done. And then I'd kind of, like, breeze through it.
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Host
But I would start questioning my answers because I finished so early.
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Madison Brea
And then.
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Host
And then when you fix them, you put the wrong one.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. So I tend. So if I stutter, it's because my brain's going so fast. My dad's always like, madison, take a deep breath and slow down.
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Host
So do you think you have ADHD too?
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Madison Brea
I definitely do. My dad definitely does, too. I don't have as much as, like, the hyperactive part of it. My brothers definitely do more of, like, if something doesn't hold my attention, it's really hard for me to stay focused on it. So that was interesting with school. Like, I never went to any classes. I was the girl that just, like, showed up to the exams and took them unless attendance was, like, mandatory, which was kind of nice for me because then I got to have a little more fun than most of my, like, pre med sort of classmates. Yeah, I only really showed up for the important things. Wow.
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Host
So you didn't study?
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Madison Brea
Not really. I was a morning of kind of study or day of kind of studyer. My dad and I both have really good photographic memory. His is way more intense than mine. But I would get, like, the notes. I could read them once verbatim through, and then I could just take the exam.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
Because of the dyslexia, it was hard for me to follow, like, teachers and PowerPoints and things like that. So school always came easy to me, luckily. And that's kind of how I fell into this profession.
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Host
Nice. You got through med school just with that photographic memory.
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Madison Brea
I was going to do med school. Covid hit. So my pre med degree is health science, preclinical. I got a minor in health service administration, so that's a bachelor's Covid hit. And so we owned a clinic at the time, and it shut down basically, so we all couldn't make ends meet. So it was all hands on deck.
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Host
Oh wow.
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Madison Brea
And I had my license since I was 18 to like draw blood, do phlebotomy. So I went right into an accelerated nursing program. So I got my bachelor's in nursing. So I did a four year degree in 15 months, accelerated program. And we were doing like antibody testing, COVID testing. It was so fun because all my friends didn't have to work during the pandemic. My brother and I, we were just knee deep in 18 hour days helping with keeping the clinic lights on. And then we just fell into this love for the medical field. And I mean I kind of grew up in it. My mom's a doctor, so she's actually a chiropractor and acupuncture. So very holistic. And then, you know, Gary being all in the life insurance space, I was never able to like drink soda or McDonald's. Like every time in middle school I remember we'd have like parties with like the cookies and the cake and I would like way overeat and throw up. My parents would always pick me up with a stomach ache. And so I kind of always was around sort of that holistic side of medicine. And then when Covid hit and we had to basically shut down the clinic or pivot into a COVID testing clinic, we kind of took that jump. So instead of doing the med school, I was even thinking about PA route. So it's kind of up in the air because I was a senior at the time Covid hit. So my first degree was that pre med track, but I ended up doing the nursing. But funny enough, you can actually get your doctorate in nursing. So there's a program next year that I can start 36 months and you get something called a DMP. So it's a doctorate nurse practitioner. So I'll actually be Dr. Brecca, which is going to be kind of funny sitting next to Gary when they're like, oh, Dr. Brut. I'm like, actually that's me.
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Host
But so yeah, cuz he's not a doctor, right?
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Madison Brea
He's not a doctor, no. But my parents actually met in chiropractic school so he could have been, but he ended up taking the human biology route, which honestly I think fits him better because of how outspoken he is.
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Host
Agreed.
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Madison Brea
I feel like they would have stripped his license already.
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Host
Oh, easily.
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Madison Brea
Because a lot of our doctors behind closed doors, they really are as in agreement as Gary is and want to be as vocal. But there's a lot of ramifications and sort of you know, issues with being as vocal against big Pharma as our family kind of is.
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Gary Brecker
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- [07:49]
Madison Brea
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Host
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Madison Brea
It'S better for him to be Gary Brecker, the human biologist, than Gary Breck, the doctor with the strip license 100.
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Host
So you saw what they did to Jordan Peterson.
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Madison Brea
I mean, I mean, it's just. It's a disaster. And even during, like, Covid, you know, you couldn't really talk too much about things. I mean, I can't even get into it because I hold a license.
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Host
Right.
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Madison Brea
So it's kind of a touchy subject. Unfortunately, we live in this society where, as a medical professional, you're kind of put in a box just to make either ends meet or just to, you know, fulfill what they kind of want.
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Host
Yeah, but podcasts are changing the game because now all these brilliant doctors and, like, people in the medical space are sharing their knowledge.
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Madison Brea
I love that. I wish there was podcasts when I first started my college journey. I would have loved to have those in the meantime. And also, I feel like people are allowed to form more of their own opinions with podcasting. You know, when you're in a medical sort of program, you have your professors, and that's it. So it's kind of like the way the professor teaches, the way the textbook is, and that's kind of all you're exposed to. But it's nice now. Like, I even have some of my friends from nursing school that will text me, and they'll be like, I had this kid come in with adhd. I sent them the gene test. They're taking the supplements. So it's kind of nice to hear that, like, our message and messages from other physicians who are, what, wadley, like, very widespoken on this topic, is really, you know, coming to. To, like, the modern sort of stance on how we should handle medical care. Like, I'm happy that it's very, like, accessible now.
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Host
Absolutely. Do you and Gary have any disagreements?
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Madison Brea
No. Funny enough, I mean, like, a little bit, but most of the time, it's more on, like, patient compliance. So, like, Gary wants to put him in all these machines. I'm like, let's kind of take the 8020 approach. Like, I know how this patient is. Funny enough. Like, we spent Labor Day together, and it was just my dad and I. The rest of the family was out of town, and we made, like, raw butter natural cookies. We both cooked with, like, our little weighted vests on and then we sat and literally read research articles all night, and I was like, what a Labor day. All my friends are out drinking, and we're here with our, like, coconut water reading research studies. But it's honestly been, like, such a blessing in disguise because my brother works for the company, my stepmom, and then my dad. And as much as we traveled in the beginning, we still travel a lot now, just seeing patients and things like that. We would never see each other with how hard we all work. So working together has been such a blessing. And we all know each other's strengths and weaknesses. And there was growing pains in the beginning, but now we very rarely disagree on anything specific, especially regarding patient care. It's more of, like, an open discussion. And what's nice is Gary has access to so many great minds that we can all sit down and kind of formulate the best outcome for the patient. And I think what we've sort of taken off the table is ego. So Gary's really good at being like, this isn't my way or the highway sort of thing. Like, he'll listen to what I've read and talked about or some other physicians. And then we can make changes to patient protocols moving forward, which is really great. And also, I mean, since I'm a nurse, I can start, like, the IVs and things like that. I have to tell them, like, what legally we can and can't do and order a process and new IV regulations that are constantly coming out and things like that. So I wouldn't say we ever have disagreements. I think, honestly, we just have a hard time actually, like, getting away from work. All of our Christmas dinners and Thanksgiving dinners and stuff really revolve around wellness and talking about our patients. But it's all of our passions, so it actually is, like, kind of, like I said, a blessing in disguise.
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Host
I can't even imagine the food you guys are eating on Thanksgiving.
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Madison Brea
Actually, Thanksgiving is a big cheat day. It's my dad's wife's favorite holiday, like, favorite, and her favorite food. So we all cheat.
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Host
And you'll eat some stuffing, even with the MTHFR?
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Madison Brea
Well, we'll actually do, like, sourdough organic.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
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Host
Yeah. And what are the most toxic things you're seeing, in your opinion?
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Madison Brea
So, I mean, birth control is such a touchy subject, but honestly, the fact that we're putting as young as 11 and 12 year old girls. Damn, that young, that young. Now actually I was reading some studies that we have one of the earliest puberty start in like modern culture. So girls are starting as young as 9 and 10 when really it's 13 to like.
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Host
Yeah, that's elementary school.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. Starting to get their period, starting to menstruate from all those like exogenous estrogens from food supply, microplastics, things like that. I think birth control, my dad talks about it too, in some cases is a necessity. But for them just to slap on these teenage girls that haven't really gone through puberty and they don't even do any songs. Cycle education, like you can only get pregnant like four days out of the month. I mean, I think everyone was kind of fear mongered. And if you're not on birth control any day of the week, you can get pregnant. So I think stopping that for me personally, I use this aura ring. So I wear it constantly. It tracks your temperature, you enter in your cycle and then it will tell you if you're fertile or not. So.
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Host
Oh wow.
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Madison Brea
Yeah.
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Host
So you know when you can have kids.
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Madison Brea
Yeah, you know when you can have kids, you know when it's safe, when it's not safe, kind of, you know, you can err on the side of precaution. And they paired with a app called Natural Cycles and now some insurance companies are actually covering it's like $100 a year prescription to Natural Cycles. So I think we just need to look at like quicker fixes before we go to pharmacological intervention. So that's one toxic load. Our skin care, our hair, our deodorants, like if you could just make the tweak changes into that, the water you drink. Like I get Mountain Valley delivered now.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
I mean in college I was drinking out of a Brita, which at least does a little bit of something.
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Host
They're getting sued right now actually.
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Madison Brea
I know. Yeah. So it's not even really doing that much. So making that little switch to like Mountain Valley and things like that, if you lessen the toxic load, you can make room for that tequila with your friends or that night out or that one night you like didn't sleep so good. So I think that that's important too. Like just your everyday, whatever you're applying to your skin, underarms, the clothing that you're wearing. I mean we were talking even about how lululemon they have are finding like microplastic and forever chemicals in their leggings yeah. And what's happening is these women are going into saunas and steam rooms trying to sweat, which is great for the body to remove toxins, but it actually dilates your pores. And now you're absorbing the toxins from the leggings. And right here is, you know, all of your vital organs for fertility. And so we're having such an infertility crisis as well.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
And so I think if women were just more educated on their cycles and all of the chemicals that they're putting on their body just day to day and making those switches, we would see that sort of toxic burden lessen.
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Host
Yeah. It's crazy how many of our friends are having miscarriages.
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Madison Brea
It's insane. Or even my friends that are trying and they can't even get pregnant. I mean, IVF is sky high right now, which is so sad because that should have been a last resort for sure. And even just like my dad talks about MTHFR a lot. So 44% of the population has that gene mutation. And a lot of women are being prescribed folic acid, which is the unmethylated form. And if you have that gene mutation, taking that high dose folic acid is actually harming your chances of, like, placenta attachment within the body and your ability to actually get pregnant. And people don't realize as miscarriages, although it's very traumatic and a hard thing on the body, your body will not allow a fetus that has abnormalities to thrive. That's why your body will do a spontaneous abortion or a miscarriage.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
So what's happening is they're getting pregnant. The body recognizes that's not going to be a viable fetus due to many, many reasons. So you have miscarriages. So if you make the biome more habitable for a fetus, your chances of getting pregnant increase. So again, lessening the toxic load, taking the methylated form of folate, getting those gene breaks, and then also testing the husband as well, testing his sort of blood work, his genetic breaks, because it takes two to tango. So instead of all of it falling just on the woman, it's nice to get the man involved as well.
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Host
Yeah, yeah. Guys don't even realize that that matters for the kids. Health, right?
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Madison Brea
Yeah, exactly. And their sperm count can be tested, also their sperm quality. I mean, they're finding, like, microplastics in almost every single testicle. They're like testing that. It's insane. So think of, like our sperm, Sperm viability and the egg viability. If the toxic burden is so high, I mean, it's not going to be a habitable environment. And if you're under extreme stress, you're not gonna. Your body's gonna recognize that it's not a habitable environment. It's basically evolution. So if you think if your body's meant to procreate, but you're under a lot of stress and there's a lot of toxins, your body is smart enough to know that it is not time, no matter how much you want it to procreate. So it will put those sort of blockers in place. Place. And unfortunately, with prolonged use of even just birth control and stuff like that, too, that starts to lessen our ability to procreate. So I think, like, we just jump to pharmaceuticals, Adderall, birth control, all of these things, and people don't realize the ramifications. I remember when I got prescribed birth control at 14 or 15, they were just like, okay, this is for safe sex, and because you have heavy periods, move on. No one really told me that could increase my rate of blood clots, even, wow. Increase your rate of infertility effect with your serotonin and dopamine levels. Like, I mean, the list goes on and on and on. So if people could just download Natural Cycles or get an aura ring, you know, check that. I mean, I think we would solve a little bit of that infertility crisis.
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Host
I remember when I was in high school, it was like, a cool thing to be put on birth control.
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Madison Brea
I know. And you're like, oh, my skin's gonna clear up because of the hormone acne. So that was like, I never dealt with hormonal acne. Too bad. But a lot of my girlfriends did, and they were like, oh, I got on. Birth control is the best thing. And so I think we're sold a little bit on the slide of just all, like, the benefits that come with it without even understanding, like, the risk and the outcomes that, you know, are further down the line. You're kind of borrowing from the future.
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Host
It makes sense why you don't have acne. You were eating so healthy. And they never taught us growing up that the food is what's causing it.
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Madison Brea
They never taught us that the gut. Because think your skin is your largest detox organization. So if your kidney and your liver can't process all of the garbage that you're putting through it, well, it has to get out of your body somehow. So the first place next is your skin. So if you heal your gut, you really heal those sort of skin. That's why colostrum There's a brand called Armor Colostrum that's kind of blowing up. I take it every day. I think it's amazing. Sort of supplement. It's powder. They even have little packets you can put in your water and that helps seal the gut and artificially will help you start.
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Host
Oh, wow, acne. Need to look into that one. I used to have terrible acne and they just told me to put on cream and they put me on Accutane.
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Madison Brea
Oh, yeah. And that was hard on the body too. And think about, you can't even. You have to be on birth control if you take Accutane because of the side effects for children.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
If you ever Google Accutane baby, it's a scary sight.
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Host
Damn. Yeah, that is scary. What's going on with all these recalls?
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Madison Brea
There was eggs this week, spinach last week, everything. That's what's so upsetting to me about, you know, like the food supply is that you go to the grocery store, you think that's a trusted source, and then you feed your families and your loved ones and you don't even realize that you're poisoning them. Like they just recalled like a bunch of cinnamon companies for high levels of lead. Enough lead to be detected in one scoop of cinnamon.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
So imagine like, I know the craze is put cinnamon in your coffee and stuff now or cinnamon toast, whatever, and you're giving it to a four year old child or all the way up to your parents and it's just a toxic load of heavy metals and microplastics are in foods. Estrogens, antibiotics, preservatives. It's really hard to go to a grocery store and get good clean food. I mean, we are blessed to be in Miami. So we outsource all of our meats from and like dairy from Southwest ranches, which is a great company. And then Mountain Valley water. I mean, I can't remember the last time I went into Publix unless it was like on a whim to go to a grocery store. And it just is sad that that's kind of like where we've ended up in the food supply. And like our soil is so depleted of nutrients, our vegetables are depleted of nutrients. And then if you do anything inorganic, you're just getting the glyphosates is just insane.
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Host
It's terrible.
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Madison Brea
And supplements too. I mean, it's kind. That's the one thing about FDA not regulating supplements too, is that you can make kind of these outlandish claims to supplements or have heavy metals or supplements that really don't do anything. And then people take them because the branding's nice or a celebrity endorsed it, and it's kind of doing more harm than good.
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Host
Crazy.
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Madison Brea
Yeah, Yeah.
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Host
I order my meat from the Amish people.
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Madison Brea
Oh, yeah. They're great, too.
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Host
They're great.
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Madison Brea
Amish farms are amazing. Unfortunately, they get shut down all the time.
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Host
Oh, my gosh. I'm on my third one.
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Madison Brea
I know the FBI will, like, raid that.
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Host
Yeah. For raw milk.
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Madison Brea
It's so crazy.
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Host
And that's crazy because raw milk is. If it's taken care of in the proper way, it's actually really good for you.
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Madison Brea
Right, exactly. And the fact that, like, they're shutting down these poor Amish farms, going in guns blazing and shutting down these, like, family generational farms for raw milk is.
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Host
That's how they make a living, too. That's the sad part.
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Madison Brea
I know. Anything else? I mean, put an Amish person in this podcast room, how are they going to function?
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Host
You know, actually, the milk boys did that. Did you see that?
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Madison Brea
He didn't know how to, like, left early or something. Right. Crazy. So it's just sad that yet again, we live in a society where, like, you could get vilified for raw milk, but, you know, a doctor can prescribe you an opioid and you go down that cascading event.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
It's just insane to me.
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Host
It makes you start wondering how deep in bed big food and big pharma are.
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Madison Brea
Honestly, the more you go down the rabbit hole, it just makes you sick. Like, it will just keep you up at night. I mean, Callie and Casey means their brother and sister, they're really going against all the corruption and they know all the data and the numbers, and I recommend anyone to listen to them. They're very well spoken. One's a Harvard educated and one Stanford educated md, So, I mean, they know what they're talking about. And he was in the lobbying community prior to him getting really, like, outspoken against it. And she was a surgeon for nine years.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
Their story is phenomenal. And they have all, like, I don't even want to touch on, like, the big pharma and stuff, but they can just elve into, you know, the cigarette companies buying the food companies making food more addictive, and spraying, like, the glyphosates and all of the preservatives on everything. Like, they are very educated on that topic.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
And a great listen.
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Host
I love them. I've had Casey on. Callie's coming on soon.
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Madison Brea
Amazing. Yeah, we've had them on Ultimate Human which is my dad's podcast. And then their episode with Tucker Carlson. I send it to my patients. It was phenomenal. The best two hours I've ever listened to. I've listened to it like three times. Yeah, it's a great, like, learn all their stats and it's phenomenal.
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Host
Here's something crazy I just found out last night. I spoke at a conference and I had a neurosurgeon come up to me afterwards. 60 year old guy, been in the space for a while. Certain doctors have to hit prescription quotas. Isn't that crazy?
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Madison Brea
It's insane.
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Host
So if they don't hit that, they get fined?
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Madison Brea
Yeah, it's insane. When I was in school when we were learning a lot about, you know, how you prescribe and how you get the doctor to prescribe and write things off, it was so insane to me that all of our education is basically just a band aid. You get the symptom, you get the treatment. It's never about, like the etiology. Like, okay, well, why did they come in with this? It really is only like, if you break your leg. Okay, why'd you break your leg? You fell off a bike. Okay. And anyway, here's this. Like, besides that, they're never like, oh, you have cancer. Well, I don't know why you have cancer, or it's familial or their favorite word in medicine is idiopathic, which means of an unknown origin. So when people get that diagnosis, they think, oh my God, they finally figured it out. Like, you come in, you have high blood pressure, they're like, oh, you have idiopathic hypertension. So they put this big fancy word on it, but really that means high blood pressure of an unknown origin. And you're like, well, then let's figure out the origin. And instead they'll just give you, you know, a medication and you're on your way until something worse happens from. So it's kind of crazy that they force these people to make these quotas. So again, I don't think doctors are evil and I don't think they're very aware of what these quotas are doing. They're almost kind of ignorant to the issue. I don't think they go to bed at night thinking like, oh, gotta get more prescriptions on people to ruin their life or keep them sicker. I really think they're just ignorant to kind of like, there's other alternative ways to treat people. That's why I like this podcast space, because I've had a lot of physicians come up to me and even students that I have worked with and they're like, besides listening to this podcast, I wouldn't have known any of these things that are like, alternative ways to treat patients. So I love that that message is kind of getting out. And I think being into wellness is kind of getting cooler. Like, having a cold plunge is cool and a red light bed and mountain valley and like, erwan's very trendy stuff. So I really like that, you know, being well is kind of becoming the new trend.
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Host
Absolutely. It's cool to see because before, if you were healthy, you got made fun of.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. Or they think it's like a diet. Like, people are like, oh, you're always on like a weird D diet. I'm like, I'm actually not on a diet. I just eat whole foods and I will have pizza and a margarita with my girlfriends and stuff like that. Like I said, I'm very 80 20. But I mean, like, today, this morning, we're gonna celebrate Gary's birthday tonight at Komodo at Fountain Blue, which I'm really excited. So I'm definitely not going to eat the best food there. So instead of compromising my whole day, we just ordered from room service. Grilled chicken, avocado, olive oil. Eat that. And we were on our way.
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Host
Nice.
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Madison Brea
We feel great. And tonight we'll cheat a little and we'll wake up, we're going to do a 5k in the morning. And then, you know, like I said, 80 20, you pick your battles.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
And I think that's important. I also think that people with in the regards to eating is they kind of get that victim mentality. So if they started their day with like a donut, they're like, oh, well, I already ate like shit this morning, so the whole day is out of waste. Let me just eat like shit the rest of the day. Or I'll just start again. Today's Friday, I'll do it Monday. And then you keep pushing off, pushing off and making excuses. And then eventually you just have all these core mobilities from disease and from just lack of nutrients.
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Host
That's why I like the 80 20. And I'm pretty similar to that because when you try to go 100 0, it's like, overwhelming.
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Madison Brea
100 0, it's so hard. I mean, we have some patients that, like, flick the switch and, like, commit. But I'm very Vocal on the 8020 lifestyle, like I said. So there's not a hard barrier to entry. You make the small switches and then you kind of do get obsessive. With it in a healthy way. Like now I started with supplements and then I got into clean water, and then I got into clean skincare, and then I got into clean clothes. And then you kind of like, now I have a sleep schedule and all my friends are always laughing. Like, I went to Europe this summer with a few of my friends and in the morning everyone's like, where's Madison? She's got the electrolytes, she's got the glutathione, she's got the vitamin C packets, and I'm like passing them out to all of my friends and we were able to hang out and have fun. But, like, like I said, the whole 8020 aspect, I think is like a really good concept to look at wellness and wellbeing and how are we all our body, mind and spirit.
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Host
I love that. Do you bring a shower filter when you travel?
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Madison Brea
No, but I have friends that do. My dad, when we travel, gets pretty psycho, so traveling with him is kind of nice because he brings all the gadgets. But my carry on is a lot of gadgets. So I have like my hydrogen water bottle. I have a red light face mask. I have all my supplements. Always an excessive amount. Being a nurse is nice because I can travel with, like, IV supplies and things like that.
- [30:44]
Host
Oh, nice.
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Madison Brea
And if I'm going like a long distance or gone for a long time, I'll bring my PMF mat to sleep on because it's about the size of like a yoga mat. So if we do like Europe and stuff like that, normally with travel, I'm only gone two or three days. So it's kind of excessive to bring all of the stuff. But I have a whole little biohacking room in my apartment, which is nice. So, like, I converted my whole den to a little biohacking room. So the first thing I do whenever I come home from a trip is kind of run through all of those machines and then get a good night's sleep or start my day, depending on the timing. But I don't get too psycho with the travel again or else you're not going to have fun. You're going to be in the shower doing the shower thing. Yeah, stuff like that. But you can outsource, like, clean water mostly anywhere. Now, at least in the United States, you find a mountain valley. You can find things like that. You can find, hopefully, like, aluminum cans. I found one at the airport yesterday. I was really excited.
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Host
Oh, nice. Was that path water plastic?
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Madison Brea
Yeah.
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Host
Yeah, those guys in the Miami airport.
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Madison Brea
I was so happy to see that because Normally it's just little plastic bottles.
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Host
I know, I hate that. And it's like seven bucks.
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Madison Brea
Yeah, I know this is doing harm, but I'm so thirsty. So seeing those path bottles and stuff is really great. So, no, I'm not as psycho, but I have my little gadgets I always bring with me. For sure.
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Host
I feel that. Are you working out every day?
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Madison Brea
I try to at least five days a week. So I have a super rare genetic disorder called Ehlers Danlos, and I just got diagnosed a little under four years ago. So basically it's a hypermobile disease of my joints. So I really can't do a lot of heavyweight things like that. Like my brother runs marathons and Spartan races, and I can't really delve too into that. So I'm more of like a Pilates and walking kind of girl. Lightweight. But I do try to prioritize at least a walk every single day. More mentally for me than anything. But like, with the eds, I have to be careful of overexertion, so I do kind of tread lightly on that. And most important thing to me is sleep because it does delve a lot into chronic fatigue and stuff like that, with that kind of genetic hypermobility. And what happens is a lot of patients with this sort of condition, it starts to affect, like, their heart and their blood vessel walls because that's made of connective tissue. So a lot of people with EDS die of, like, aneurysms and hearts and stuff like that. So I try to do like, a lot of exercise geared towards cardiovascular health, and that's been great. With this oura ring, I track my, you know, resting heart rate, my heart rate, my stress load, your resilience. So it's nice to have all these raw data points that you can actually just have.
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Host
Interesting. So is that something you had your whole life and got diagnosed late or you just got it later?
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Madison Brea
Your whole life got diagnosed late. Now, the thing is with EDS is it's. It's rare. And a lot of doctors misdiagnose it with like, fibromyalgia or Hashimoto's or things like that. And I had a lot of things growing up that now we all realize was eds.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
And in college, I put on a ton of weight. My thyroid was always a little off. And it drove my dad crazy. Obviously, if you've ever met him, he's.
- [33:36]
Host
Trying to fix you. Your whole.
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Madison Brea
My whole life. And we all just thought, like, I had all these weird things. I was never really like the athletic type because I would break Bones and like dislocate. Like, I was just a funky kid with that kind of stuff. And so actually I was at an ozone conference in Reno and I met this random doctor who like, came right up to me and he's like, you have eds. And I was like, hi, nice to meet you. Like, what are you talking?
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Host
That was the first thing you said?
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Madison Brea
First thing he said. And he's like, I notice that you're hypermobile. I noticed the way that your hips move and your feet turn in and your hands, like your joints are all flexible.
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Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
And so he started explaining it to me and then I delved into the research and now with finding that out, I've basically put all of the symptoms into remission, which is great because I used to just pass out from like my heart rate dropping. So I would literally pass out. My dad would lift my legs up, we'd throw on an oxygen cannulas. I would like, come to.
- [34:24]
Host
It was that bad.
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Madison Brea
It got that bad in 2021 because of stress and lack of sleep. And we were building a company, so we were taking red eyes and 18 hour days, you know, just trying to make ends meet as a family. And it just took a toll on me. And so when we figured out the EDS thing, now I prioritize sleep. I have a red light bed. But like today I went out and looked at the sun and did some grounding and walking and breath work because I don't have my little machines. And I'm really strict on my supplement regimen. And I've increased, you know, my life expectancy from that.
- [34:56]
Host
Nice.
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Madison Brea
I'm super happy. Wow.
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Host
I've never heard of that. That's crazy.
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Madison Brea
Super rare. And I think a lot of people get misdiagnosed. So they get misdiagnosed with like chronic fatigue syndrome or that their thyroid is just not working. They don't really know. So if anyone listening has like hypermobile joints or pots or thyroid or Hashimoto's, so look up EDS and start, start going down that rabbit hole.
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Host
Reminds me all of all the kids that said they were double joining growing up. I know would do weird things with their arms.
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Madison Brea
They probably have EDS, I'm telling you, 13 types. And there's one type I don't have, that one, thank God. Vascular EDS where the average life expectancy is only 48 because you die of aneurysms or things of that nature because it affects like, the lining of your blood vessels. So it does really go misdiagnosed. So that's one of like my Little passion projects that I'm working on. I want to get into more research on it and really make people a little bit more aware of that condition, because I think it is very misdiagnosed, unfortunately. But that's why, to back to your question, why I exercise, I try to at least five to seven days a week, but it's never. You'll never see me lifting, like, the hundred pounds squat rack. But my brother is, like, super into the gym. Yeah. He's doing the Great American Race. He's such an inspiration to me because we're three years apart, so I'm the oldest. He's three years younger than me. But he acts like he's 45, engaged. He's got the house, he's got the dog. He's successful in his career, and he's flicked this switch on training, and he is so committed. It is such an inspiration. He's training for the great World Race, which is seven marathons in seven days in seven continents.
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Host
No way.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. So he starts in, like, cape town. It's 50 athletes. They air. Fit it out like an Airbus 380 or something. So they sleep on the plane. He lands in Cape Town, runs a marathon, goes to Antarctica, runs a marathon, goes to Istanbul, Asia, then Istanbul, Europe, somewhere in South America, and then Australia, and then he ends in Miami. And.
- [36:58]
Host
Oh, my gosh.
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Madison Brea
And he's just been like. I called him today. This morning, it's like 7am I'm like, are you outside? He's like, yeah, I'm a mile nine jogging in Vegas. And he's such an inspiration. So I think that's also what's nice about the family working together is we have our little things. And, I mean, I just take such great pride in my family and inspiration from them all. But, like, Cole switching this switch and just going all in on this training has been.
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Host
That's incredible. So they only pick 50 people for that race.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. You have to qualify because, you know, it's actually kind of dangerous.
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Host
Yeah. One marathon's already hard enough, you know?
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Madison Brea
Well, Cole was reading. I don't know if it was during the Great American World Race or some other race where a guy ran in Antarctica and he was so numb, he got water in his shoe, and he took a shoe off at the end of the race, and three toes fell off.
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Host
No way.
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Madison Brea
Frostbite.
- [37:45]
Host
What?
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Madison Brea
Yeah. So I'm like, that doesn't seem like something I want to do. I don't like to do things where, like, death is a possibility. You won't catch me Jumping out of planes and anything like that. I'm like, that is insane. But like I said, it's just he flicked the switch and it's such an inspiration to see, you know, him really chasing after his dreams, especially only being 23.
- [38:01]
Host
Yeah, he's young. He's got to hit up Goggins. Goggins is out here.
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Madison Brea
I know he likes to him all the time. He loves it. And he's just. Cole's actually very educated, too. He's very well spoken. Him and I went to college together, and he dabbled in, like, patient care, but he's really good at, like, the business sort of things as well. He's definitely like a mini Gary. Like, if you look at them together, they're the same person.
- [38:24]
Host
Well, I know. I know. Who's winning the 5k tomorrow then?
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Madison Brea
Oh, yeah. Cole's gonna be, like, all in. He's gonna be, like, finished by the time I'm like, a quarter mile in.
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Host
Yeah, he'll probably run in, like, 16 minutes.
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Madison Brea
He probably will do six laps. He'll just be like, yeah, 5K is.
- [38:37]
Host
Not enough for him. Right.
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Madison Brea
5K is like his warmup.
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Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
Like, that's like, nothing.
- [38:40]
Host
He's gonna be out there lapping people.
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Madison Brea
I know.
- [38:43]
Host
Going back to the misdiagnosis, though, that you mentioned earlier, like, do you think AI is gonna fix a lot of those issues with diagnosis?
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Madison Brea
I really think so. I think if we use AI correctly and big data correctly, we can detect things earlier and then diagnose more correctly. I always tell people, like, for example, with, like, an MRI, when my patients go and get MRIs or CT scans, I'm like, that is just an image. An MRI actually doesn't tell you what's wrong. It's in the eye of the beholder. So I can look at an MRI and say, oh, like, that looks like gas in your intestines. And another physician can look at it and say, that's actually dead tissue. So it's very important that you get multiple reads on imaging in the medical community, because if not, you're going to rely on that, whatever that one doctor sees, and it could be wrong, where I will kind of take out the guesswork. They're actually doing this in a Prunovo scan. Have you heard of it?
- [39:29]
Host
I saw those.
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Madison Brea
Okay. It's a full body mri. I'm a big fan of the Prunova.
- [39:33]
Host
I want to get one, actually.
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Madison Brea
Oh, you should. It's only $2,500, which, in the grand scheme of things, not that expensive for everything. That it provides and it does a full body analysis. Cancers, masses, aneurysms, all of that kind of stuff. But it integrates AI technology to read the results to you. So it takes the guesswork out.
- [39:49]
Host
Wow.
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Madison Brea
And I was talking with someone who works in Prinovo and they said, oh, we didn't think we were going to find that many. And he's like, it's about 1 in 20 people. We find something critical in.
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Host
Damn.
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Madison Brea
Yeah, 5%. It's insane what they're finding and discovering. And even just like swollen prostates and people can get their PSA checked and then, you know, prostate cancer and things like that. So I'm a huge fan of AI being integrated as long as it's used for the right things, you know, in the medical sort of realm. Also for, you know, risk of over prescribing or prescribing things that are counterintuitive or things like that. Because people will go to a cardiologist, get one thing, go to a kidney specialist, get another thing, go to a neurologist, get another thing. And they're not all talking together. So if you integrate AI, I think that will really stop. Hopefully such a pharmaceutical soup and sort of the, you know, issues with pharmacological interventions kind of mixing together and causing harm to the body.
- [40:44]
Host
Absolutely. My dentist uses it.
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Madison Brea
Really, really cool. That's amazing.
- [40:47]
Host
It takes photos of your teeth and AI picks out the cavities.
- [40:50]
Madison Brea
Yep. Plastic surgeons are doing that now to AI like your before and after surgeries. I know a lot of neurosurgeons are using it. Like, I just think it really, if used the correct way, will be one of the best things modern medicine has ever implemented as well as in the wellness community.
- [41:05]
Host
Absolutely. Because human error misdiagnosis, I think Gary said it's the third leading cause of.
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Madison Brea
Death, which is crazy. I see it in patients all the time. Like back to the MRI example, we had a patient who went in for extreme bowel complaints. It was a patient's father, actually. It wasn't one of ours. And they did an mri. The doctor was like, oh, that's gas. It actually was dead tissue. Ended up passing away a few days later.
- [41:25]
Host
Whoa.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. They missed like 8ft of dead colon.
- [41:28]
Host
Oh, my God.
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Madison Brea
So, like I said, like, if they just read that MRI correct, he probably would still be here. Sadly, that happens all day long. Misdiagnosis. And when you have those quotas, like we were talking about earlier, how are you going to meet your quota if you're spending an hour every day with Patients. You only see five patients. So they'll do the five minute visit, the quick one, two. Hello. What's going on?
- [41:48]
Host
They're in and out.
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Madison Brea
They're in and out. They could see 50 to 100 patients a day. Imagine if half of them are in pharmaceutical supplements or pharmaceutical interventions. Then they met their quota and then some.
- [41:58]
Host
Right.
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Madison Brea
So it's sad that we're not prioritizing real true precision care.
- [42:03]
Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
Anymore. Like, we really don't ever do one on ones. Or like I like to call it, you never see the whites of the eyes of the patient. Not really talk ever to them. Or get familial history or full history of the last five, ten years. It's kind of just like, oh, yeah, five years ago I broke my ankle. And then this, this and this and okay, you have this move on. It's. It's insane to me. And sitting in. When I was in my nursing school, like, I used to like twitch in the back, but I guess you have to kind of keep your head down. And I remember I would bring home assignments and sit on the kitchen counter with my dad and be like, how would you answer this? He would answer and be like, that's wrong. Like, I still have one that was about failure to thrive infants. Like an infant that isn't thriving, isn't growing. They're like, okay, what do you add to your formula? You would think it would be like aminos and things like that. No, it was vegetable oil and rice.
- [42:51]
Host
What?
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Madison Brea
That's our standard. And so unfortunately we have a lot of practitioners stuff that don't question the standards. So you have a failure thrive infant come in, you give them good old seed oils and some fortified grains which are folic acid. So if they have a mutation, even.
- [43:04]
Host
Worse, half of them have it too.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. Hopefully we fatten them up and they start to thrive. And I think that's also becoming an issue with children. The CDC actually just pushed back a lot of guidelines that I saw, really know the exact numbers, but it was like they should be able to speak like three words or something by 24 months or something. And they push it back to 36 months. So instead of changing the milestones, we should be looking at why students and children aren't hitting these milestones. Instead, they're pushing it back so that we don't realize that we're having such a deficit in learning and cognitive function in these younger kids now. It's sad.
- [43:40]
Host
I'm hearing a lot of these babies are nonverbal now, and that sucks for parents.
- [43:43]
Madison Brea
To just have a kid. And during COVID they're very antisocial because they didn't see a lot of people. So they're having like a lack of eye contact, a lack of social skill problem. Now they're four and they're having a really hard time assimilating into kindergarten. And even like the toxic load poor babies get. I mean, when a baby is born in America, they get a hepatitis B vaccine right after birth. And that's a sexually transmitted disease vaccine. You can only get that from like needle usage. So a dirty needle or like an std. And last time I checked, the babies aren't doing either of that, you know, for an hour old. Then they put erythromycin eye drops, which basically a Z pack eye drops. And then they give them a vitamin K shot. And then they start them on like that vaccine schedule. And then you take them home, you put them in diapers that are full of all the little diapers with like the little spongebob and stuff on those are all dyes downstairs and it's inorganic and it's just seeping right into such a viable little human being. And then you have our formula which is full of seed oils if you're not breastfeeding. And then all of the lotions and baby creams and toys full of like microplastics that are getting transdermal on their skin. I mean, you could just go down the rabbit hole of how we're poisoning children one hour after birth. It's insane.
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Host
That's nuts. I wonder if there's any diapers that are non toxic.
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Madison Brea
I think there's a few companies, there's a lot of companies that are like reusable, like washable diapers that I've read about as well. I think actually diapers are really sort of pivoting against it. Just kind of how like the tampon community really went really organic because I think people are waking up to that at least makes sense to them. So. But unfortunately it's just so sad that we put these little infants in such a toxic load right out of birth.
- [45:28]
Host
Right.
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Madison Brea
They have no idea even we Narcan babies, which I, I found out in nursing school when I was in my OB rotation. If they are born in respiratory distress due to like either the mother being on drugs or they give fentanyl in the IV for pain management for the mother during labor. Sometimes you have an infant in respiratory distress and you can Narcan them. Because I had to study the Narcan dosage which, what it was like Mind boggling. That's not mind boggling that this is, like, kind of how we just handle things in the medical community now.
- [45:58]
Host
Yeah. I don't think I'm gonna have kids in a hospital, honestly.
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Madison Brea
I think I'm gonna do a home birth, too.
- [46:02]
Host
Yeah, home or wellness center?
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Madison Brea
Because the more I read, too, we're not even supposed to give birth on our backs.
- [46:07]
Host
Oh, great.
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Madison Brea
That's how you give birth. Like the way, like, you're actually supposed to kind of like crouch and hold on backwards.
- [46:13]
Host
Oh, wow.
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Madison Brea
So that's why the home births and the tub and everything is supposed to be, like, so safe and so good for how, like, the canal and the hips open up. I don't want to speak too much on it because I'm not an OB gyn, but our old chief medical director and the company I worked with was an OB GYN and she delivered 7,000 babies. And she kind of educated me a little bit on that topic.
- [46:31]
Host
Dang.
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Madison Brea
And it's pretty crazy that we just, you know, basically pump and dump.
- [46:35]
Host
You just pump them out, in and out. Get a $10,000 bill afterwards.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. Two days in the hospital and you're on your own. Sad.
- [46:42]
Host
They inject you, what, painkillers while you're doing it.
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Madison Brea
Yeah. Epidural or fentanyl morphine. You know, things like that. They're putting fentanyl in you in an IV drip. If your epidural doesn't work, sometimes they resort to fentanyl or even, like, which is leading to, like, that respiratory depression and infants being born, which means, like, they can't breathe. So narcanum, which is just so sad to me.
- [47:04]
Host
Wow. That just happened to one of my friends. Kids. I wonder what happened.
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Madison Brea
Oh, really?
- [47:08]
Host
Yeah, it came out blue.
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Madison Brea
Oh, yeah. So it means they're not getting good oxygen supply, but we're jaundice, which means you have to get put under, like, a little lamp. And it's just insane that we're having all of these issues with infant mortality and maternal mortality, considering we're not a third world country.
- [47:24]
Host
Yeah.
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Madison Brea
You know, with all the money that we spend on healthcare, you think we would kind of have this figured out by now, but unfortunately we don't spend a lot of attention on maternal care or like I said, like the birth control kind of. We start this cascading event at 12 years old. So you're not going to be able. You're born with the amount of eggs that you're going to have. So, like, I have the amount of eggs that are going to Be babies down the line. So if I start damaging those eggs so young, I mean, how are you going to have a viable fetus?
- [47:48]
Host
Oh, wow. I didn't know you were born with it.
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Madison Brea
Technically, you had them when you were in your mom's womb.
- [47:53]
Host
Really?
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Madison Brea
My mom carried her grandchildren. And, like, I'll.
- [47:55]
Host
Holy crap.
- [47:56]
Madison Brea
Technically, if you think about, like, that, you're born with the amount of eggs that you have.
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Host
I didn't know that. I thought you make them every month.
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Madison Brea
No, you release one every month.
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Host
Oh, you release one.
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Madison Brea
That's why you can get, like, your egg count tested, to see how fertile you are. Or people freeze their eggs and things like that so that they can prolong, you know, if they have kids later on in life.
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Host
Wow, that's good to know.
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Madison Brea
Yeah, it's interesting. But see, like, that should be kind of common knowledge. Yeah, we're all gonna make babies maybe one day. Like, you thinking, like, education, you know, at, like, middle school, when they talk about sex ed, they would tell you you can only get pregnant four or five days a month. This is a cycle. And then you're born with this many eggs. I think it would kind of scare people a little bit to be a little bit nicer to your body. Have you thought about that?
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Host
No. So I know your dad's obviously been a big mentor, but also Dave Grupman, right?
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Madison Brea
Yeah. Dave Grupman I met when I first moved to Miami. He's been a patient forever. I would say he's one of the best people that I know. Him, his wife and his daughters I absolutely adore. He introduced me to a lot of our. I would say, like, our VIP clients. But he also was a great mentor and, like, how you treat people. And, I mean, he's like the king of hospitality. And my dad will quote this a lot too, but one time he told me he's like, Madison, just play the long game. And that always kind of sticks with me with patients as well. And his wife is just, like, the best role model as well. She's an entrepreneur. She's a great mother. She's beautiful. She's so kind to her kids. Like, the kids are brilliant. They're like 5 and 6, and they're like the two smartest little girls I've ever met. I have nothing but good things to say about that family. And he's just been an amazing mentor on my journey. He introduced me to Sam, Shahidi, and then eventually the Nelk boys. And now we're doing this 5k run tomorrow, and just, like, the connection that guy has and the love that he has for his family and like the people in his circle. He's one of the most loyal people I've ever met. Like, if you're in his circle, you're in his circle.
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Host
Love it.
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Madison Brea
So I really do look up to him a lot in my life. His wife a lot in my life. And then the children are just amazing. So it's, it's great that in wellness I've got to meet other people that are doing so good in different careers. So I have a lot of mentors in like a lot of different spaces. Like, he's really big in the hospitality spaces. I have a lot of patients I can't really talk about because of hipaa, but they're big and acting or singing or things like that. And you know, I've really learned from being around a lot of these wealthy or like well known people that at the end of the day they really just have their family around them. And I used to be like, oh, that's kind of a lonely life. Like every time I go to your house, it's just your family. And then as my dad's kind of blow up in like a little bit of a micro scale, it makes sense that you just always want to have your family around and like they really are the people that you can trust and you can lean on, that you can grow on and they won't really ever hopefully stab you in the back. So it's been nice having all of these different mentors in different sectors of the world, you know, teaching me all like these little things as I've been, you know, growing.
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Host
Absolutely. Madison, what's next for you? You crushed it.
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Madison Brea
Thank you. That was my first interview. Hopefully I didn't stutter too much. I really want to get the 8020 message out. Like, if you know me, I say it all the time, how I'm very 80 20. But I think people need to realize, like I said, the barrier to entry into wellness is not as big and scary as you think. You make quick little changes, make a good morning routine, become a little more self aware. Like I journal every day and I think that helps me be a little bit more self aware of my actions or like my goals. I practice gratitude because I think that's really important and I think just I want to really get that 8020 message out. Like you can still have a life and have fun, but just take care of yourself, take care of your future generation that you'll bring and the people around you that are important and you know, just always leave the room better than you entered it. Like, give a little bit of knowledge, lend a hand, open the door for someone, tell someone you love them. Like, I just think that that really embodies kind of that 8020 lifestyle.
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Host
So love it.
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Madison Brea
That's what's next.
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Host
I'll see you at the 5k tomorrow.
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Madison Brea
Yeah, see ya. I'm excited.
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Host
Do it. Thanks for watching, guys. We'll link her social media handles below. See you next time.