The Future They're Building Is Terrifying...| DSH #2092

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour – "The Future They're Building Is Terrifying..." | DSH #2092

Date: August 4, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Lenny (Place of Elms founder, entrepreneur, and cultural commentator)
Setting: Live at the Bitcoin Conference

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Main Theme

This episode features a thought-provoking conversation between host Sean Kelly and Lenny from Place of Elms, focusing on the dangers and implications of emerging technologies—particularly AI, brain chips, and transhumanism—as well as their broader effects on societal control, personal frequency, authenticity, and unity. The discussion weaves together technology, culture, spirituality, and daily living, offering actionable steps for individuals to resist what the guest sees as an agenda of control and division.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Technology, Control, and the “End Game”

Timestamps: [00:00], [08:58]–[11:16]

• Neuralink and Brain Chips:
  Lenny argues that brain chip technology is the "end game" for establishing full control over humanity by shaping perception directly.

  • “Once you control our perception, then I believe it's over.” (A, [00:04])
  • He suggests that initial adoption is framed around helping the disabled or those with impairments, but will gradually extend, creating an unbridgeable divide between “augmented” and “natural” humans.
  • The concern is that it will be implemented covertly, through narratives of compassion and necessity, rather than open debate about intent and consequence.

• AI, Social Manipulation & Predictive Programming:

  • Both agree that technology like AI is here to stay, but warn about its infinite potential for misuse.
  • Lenny draws attention to “predictive programming” through media (e.g., the film Contagion, [11:24]), arguing movies normalize and forecast policy changes before they arrive.

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2. Frequency, Fashion, and Daily Choices

Timestamps: [00:41], [01:42]–[02:44], [38:24]

• Vibration & Material Choices:

  • Lenny, whose company Place of Elms exclusively uses organic materials, emphasizes that everything consumed or worn carries a “frequency.” Lower frequencies—synthetic foods and clothes—create “distortion” and disease, while organic, intentional choices can elevate and heal.
  • “Whatever you wear or consume has a frequency. And when you have something that's not organic…it unbalances your frequency.” (A, [00:54])

• Vertical Integration with Values:

  • Lenny describes his total control of the Place of Elms supply chain, from design to production, ensuring “high-band frequency” in his products.

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3. Authenticity vs. Influence and Integrity in Media

Timestamps: [15:56]–[17:03], [31:38]

• Rejecting Sponsorship for Authenticity:

  • Lenny refuses sponsorship to guard his message and integrity against outside influence.
  • “As soon as I start to take sponsorship, then what happens? My integrity and my allegiance… start to shift.” (A, [15:58])

• Growth of Genuine Voices:

  • Sean observes Lenny’s rapidly increasing following, attributing it to his refusal to be “handled.”

• Creative Control:

  • Lenny insists on producing all content himself, including editing, to ensure authentic intent and impact.

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4. Survival Mode, Division, and the Power Structure

Timestamps: [05:53]–[07:22], [18:58]–[22:09]

• Manipulation Through Division:

  • Lenny laments how most people live in survival mode, focused on daily struggles, which distracts from questioning power and fulfilling their soul’s “North Star.”
  • “The people that are holding the strings, they want us trapped into that apparatus because we don’t have time to seek…who am I, how am I supposed to actually serve the world better?” (A, [05:53])

• Traps of Politics and Religion:

  • Labels like left/right or religion are used to further divide; pushing collective unity is essential for overcoming manipulation.

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5. AI, Universal Basic Income, and Loss of Agency

Timestamps: [14:25]–[15:37]

• The coming of UBI, AI-monitored vehicles, and similar shifts are criticized as mechanisms for increased societal control—trading “freedom for safety and convenience.”

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6. Division by Identity & Transhumanism

Timestamps: [26:04]–[29:29]

• Lenny links the proliferation of identity labels, body modification trends, and gender debates to a broader transhumanist project: dividing and weakening humanity for easier control.
  • “The first line of defense is strong masculine men…if that's your target, then you try to weaken them…” (A, [27:06])
  • “But I will say also that there is a huge rise and awakening for masculine men.” (A, [27:33])

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7. Good vs. Evil as Frequency

Timestamps: [23:23]–[25:11]

• Good and evil are described as perceptible frequencies that either expand or contract the spirit.
  • “Anything that’s evil is also a frequency…whenever it’s good…your body expands…that’s the main distinction.” (A, [23:23])

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8. Action Steps: Countermeasures for Everyday Life

Timestamps: [47:03]–[50:12]

• Lenny reads a list of 25 concrete ways to resist manipulative agendas and improve one’s frequency. Some highlighted items:
  • “Use cash as much as possible.”
  • “Do not consume seed oils, refined sugars, or lab foods.”
  • “Switch from news to critical thinking.”
  • “Vote with your dollar.”
  • “Unfollow influencers that are dividing us.”
  • “Remove labels when you meet someone, look at the heart.”
  • “Create community…make it self-sufficient.”
  • “Be fearless. This life is just an experience…do what you came here to do and ascend to the next level.”
  • “If we vibrate on the frequency of love, evil cannot penetrate.” (A, [49:40])

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9. Personal Stories & Industry Realities

Timestamps: [39:28]–[42:42], [52:03]

• Sean opens up about the pressure and anxiety in independent podcasting—financial hardship, the “missing scientists” and personal threats.
• Lenny shares his disappointment in the fashion industry’s reliance on “loopholes” and misdirection, motivating his own ethical production.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Perception Control:

  • “Once you control our perception, then I believe it’s over.” (A, [00:04])

• On Division:

  • “Everything else is just meant to divide us.” (A, [18:54])
  • “The division trap…all this energy that we have, it’s being manipulated…and it’s ultimately dividing us.” (A, [21:35])

• On Spiritual Alignment:

  • “Every one of us, we have a North Star…most will never know what their real North Star is because we’ve been stuck into this band of frequency that is just keeping like everyone just barely surviving.” (A, [05:53])

• On Good vs. Evil:

  • “Anything that’s evil is also a frequency…and whenever it’s good…your body expands and you just feel good.” (A, [23:23])

• On Authenticity:

  • “As soon as I start to take sponsorship, then what happens? My integrity and my allegiance, they start to shift.” (A, [15:58])

• On Solutions & Hope:

  • “If we vibrate on the frequency of love, evil cannot penetrate.” (A, [49:40])

• On Facing Darkness:

  • “What’s the other option? Darkness and depression.” (A, [46:19])

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Actionable Advice: Lenny’s “Ways to Fight Back”

[47:46]–[50:12]

• Use cash, avoid processed foods, choose nature over artificiality, value critical thinking, support businesses with shared values, use privacy tech, homeschool, commit to family, participate in community resilience, demand justice and accountability, stay creative and fearless, and most importantly, “vibrate on love.”

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Closing Takeaways

• The future being built—steeped in high-tech control, division, and artificiality—is terrifying only if we submit to “low-frequency” living and let go of authenticity.
• Individuals can resist by making everyday choices that are conscious, principled, and community-oriented.
• Staying hopeful, loving, and united—not reactive or consumed by fear—is positioned as the core mantra for life in uncertain times.

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Listen for rich insights on technology, unity, frequency, and daily empowerment, interwoven with both critique and hope.

Transcript

[A]

I'm strictly talking about the brain chip, because the brain chip is the end game.

[B]

Neuralink.

[A]

Yeah. This is what I believe is the end game in order to have complete control over humanity. Because once you control our perception, then I believe it's over. We are demonic entities that wants to control everything, including your perception and enslave you. So as soon as I start to take sponsorship, then what happens? My integrity and my allegiance, they start to shift.

[B]

Okay, guys, we are here at Bitcoin conference with Lenny from Place of Elms wearing his organic cotton shirt right now. Feel amazing. Thanks for coming, man. It's good to see you.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

[B]

Yeah, you're doing some really cool stuff. I mean, I've been looking into clothing for a while, talking about the frequency and the vibration of the clothing, the material, how important it is. I used to wear a lot of polyester.

[A]

Yeah, that's not great.

[B]

No.

[A]

Like whatever you wear or whatever you consume has a frequency. And when you have something that's not organic, well, it unbalances your frequency. And we try to vibrate on. Love, joy, excitement, laughter, health. These are all high frequencies. And whenever you bring on in your life things that don't vibrate at that frequency is going to create distortion and distortion creates disease. The whole plan with Place of Elves is to use only organic or natural materials. And essentially we can solely bring back style, but with something that's healthy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that holds the right values.

[B]

Yeah. I think there'll be a transition into apparel because a lot of people with food, they know about organic and natural products, but with clothing, I think a lot of people overlook it. Right.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm even going to go one step further because, yeah, there's food, there's clothes, but every products and services that we consume, it has a frequency. And you can even go in, like the apps that you're using or, you know, healthcare education. We have to look at who holds the power behind these companies and what are their real true intentions. And if these intentions are not to uplift the frequency, to move in a higher direction, to empower us, then we have to re question and find alternatives.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Which, by the way, at the end of this podcast, I would like you, if you can leave me two minutes because I wrote down all the ways to fight back. Really all the ways to bring alternatives in the daily things that we do.

[B]

Oh, let's definitely do that.

[A]

Yeah. I think that your audience is going to benefit from this tremendously.

[B]

Yeah. I love when podcasts or whatever you're listening to is actionable, where you can immediately just implement stuff.

[A]

It's super important because we live in a world that there's a lot of doom and gloom. There's a lot of people that click bait in order to rage.

[B]

Bait they call it.

[A]

Yeah, it's like rage bait. And the problem with that is they don't offer solutions. And they are, you know, making a claim. Okay, they may be right, it may be outlandish, it may be crazy, but at the end of the day it's like, okay, so what do we do next? Uh, do we just like rage? Do we just jump in the frequency of fear? And I feel that all of this stuff, it weakens us ultimately. But if you offer solutions, at least you understand the problem and then you know, what's the actionable item for sure.

[B]

Were you ever living in a fear based frequency when you were younger?

[A]

Um, this is a, this is a good question because I believe it's a process in terms of understanding your relationship with death. And when you don't understand what death is, then you will always do things in order to keep your survival instinct alive. But once you embrace that we just live an experience right now that is in 3D, then you realize that, huh, there's probably something after that. All we are is a collective consciousness. And as we move, well, we either ascend or we descend. And I believe that death is the same thing. It's just another part of our consciousness moving into another experience.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I believe that if you're friends with it, then you don't have to fear it. You can just understand that when it's your time, it's your time. And there's something else after. This is just a really small experience that I believe nobody should live with. You know, this, this constant fear looming around like, oh my God, you know, everything's going to be over. Like once I'm gone, what's going to happen? It's like, no, like we need to enjoy life properly, we need to be optimistic and we need to live in a higher band of frequency. And I think that making friends with death is absolutely a, a pivotal training that everyone has to do.

[B]

Making friends with that, if I haven't heard that before.

[A]

Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I mean, you know, look at everyday things that you do, like, do they make you stronger or do they make you weaker? And if you look at it and like, okay, am I aligned with who I am? And a really good, really good exercise that I usually tell people to do is do your human design I don't know if you know about human design.

[B]

Heard of it?

[A]

Yeah. So it's basically, it tells you whether or not you are aligned with your soul's journey or not. And there's another one that's called Sphinx code, and this one explains how you can ascend in frequency or how you stay stuck.

[B]

Sphinx code?

[A]

Yeah. Spirit. Super interesting. So I, so I've done both. And you realize how accurate it is because every one of us, we have a North Star. Every one of us, we have a specific shine. And most of the world population, they will never know what their real North Star is because we've been stuck into this band of frequency that is just keeping, like everyone just barely surviving so they don't have the time or the, the awakening freedom, like, in order to discover what it is. And as soon as you understand that, like we all have a shine, then you realize that probably you're not doing what you're supposed to do because we're stuck in survival mode. It's always like, you know, 9 to 5, have to pay my bill, the interest rates are going high, the cost of living is going through the roof. And then you're like, I don't have time. It's. Everything is always like, survival, survival. And I believe that the people that are holding the strings, they want us trapped into that apparatus because we don't have time to seek and see, like, okay, who am I? And like, how am I supposed to actually serve the world better? Because we're always in survival mode. And when you hold the strings, you want everyone to just, you know, be divided, be busy, be entertained in order to maintain the power structure.

[B]

Yeah. And I know you're optimistic, but right now, people living in paycheck to paycheck just reached an all time high in history. And with AI, I only see it getting worse. Honestly.

[A]

Yeah, it is scary. A lot of people ask me, like, what would you do with all of this technology that's moving so fast? And I believe that one of the interesting things to do is if you can find a junction where the need for human intervention is required, at the junction where AI stops, this is where I think it will become extremely valuable. Because AI is there. Like, it's part of.

[B]

It's not leaving.

[A]

No, it's not leaving. At least not right now. And there is a part of it that it needs to be governed properly because the possibilities are now like infinite. And to some extent, I find that it's pretty scary. And on one side, you know, it's like you have elon Musk, who's like, oh, like, AI is the greatest threat, but at the same time, he's building, like, one of the most powerful AI Grok. Yeah. So it's like, I look at these things and I'm like, well, if you really believe that, then why even, like, bringing it on? And instead, like, not lobbying with all the money you have, have the lobby power to just say like, no, this is ultimately dangerous. And this is how. This is how I believe that they will bring it into society. Like, it starts with. And now I'm strictly talking about the brain chip, because the brain chip is the end game.

[B]

Neural link.

[A]

Yeah, this is what I believe is the end game in order to have complete control over humanity. Because once you control our perception, then I believe it's over. And as soon as you get under the skin inside the brain, then what happens is you have to introduce it in a way that it's like, oh, like, we need to help people. So first the paraplegic, the people that can't see, and then say, oh, we have to help the blind. Oh, we have to help the people. You know, the veterans who can't walk. And I understand they will pull on our heartstrings in order to bring in mainstream. And from there it will say, okay, well, now that we have it, these people are like half superhuman. So then it gets in the education system and then the kids that will have it, because let's say they have learning disabilities, they say, oh, well, you know, they're going to need to have that. And then the people who don't have it, who don't have learning disabilities, they won't be able to compete because it's like you have a chatgpt in your brain and. And then you're trying to compete and there's no way that you can. So this is how it will slowly creep up. And this is why we always have to look at the end game and see how do they want to bring it in. Because it's always deception. It's never like, the real thing that they actually want to do. And this is what, this is what I don't like about the current power structure. They're not capable of telling us what's their real intention. They go in front of the television and, you know, they're like, this is for, you know, a strong state of the union, or, you know, this is for the collective consciousness. And no, like, we look at the agenda and it's not to empower us. And I wish that they would just step on the Platform and just say, hey, we are. We are demonic entities that wants to control everything, including your perception, and enslave you. And if they would be able to say that, and here's how we're going to do it, then at least we can step in the ring. We know the rules, we know what we're up against. And then we can unite, we can get together and we can fight back. But because they're always using deceptive avenues, this is how it slowly creeps up into society. And I believe AI and the chip is another one of these.

[B]

Yeah, they do it more covertly. They'll use movies and TV shows and. Yeah. Plant ideas, Right.

[A]

Oh, yeah, the predictive programming.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I mean, if, if any of your audience saw the movie Contagion. I didn't see that one. Yeah, you have to, you have to watch Contagion 2012. Matt Damon, you know, an all star cast. And it's literally COVID 19.

[B]

Really?

[A]

It's scene, scene per scene, word for word.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And this is, this is how it goes in the movie. There's also a conspiracy theorist who's played by Jude Law and he plays like the Alex Jones type who's like, hey, there's something wrong with like, what's happening with this virus. And he gets like chastitized and demonized and laughed at, ridiculed. And it's normal because these are the perceptions that they want to give us. Like, oh, conspiracies is like cuckoo. And what was the ultimate end goal of that movie? What was the result where everybody, ah, we made it. The vaccine, the. They were able to make it and then everything.

[B]

Oh, I think I did see this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A while ago. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And you look all the, all the institutions that are involved in the movie. There's the world, the World Health Organization, there's nih, they're all in there.

[B]

I thought it was weird when Obama got into movies. He owns like a whole company now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. He made that. Well, or he produced, financed, Leave the World Behind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is another scary one because if you look at everything that they're showing you in there, this is called predictive programming. Look at the Teslas that are, you know, slowly crashing like one after the. They're showing you that they can remote control electric cars.

[B]

Well, did you see the new bill that's passing next year with electric vehicles or all vehicles? I think they're going to use AI to monitor your eye, eye movement and your body language while you're driving. So all vehicles by 2027 have to have this in place.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So if you're like aggressively driving, they can shut down your vehicle.

[A]

Well, why, you know, like really, like did we have that many problems when there was no technology and we just had like a good old pickup truck, like it was fine. What they do is they use events, they manufacture events, they amplify them, they use their bought off news media organizations in order to, you know, put a magnifying glass on it and then they offer the solution, which always means more control and less freedoms for us. Yeah, that's. So I'm not surprised about that bill. This is, this is just another bill that. No, but it's for your safety in case that, you know, you fall asleep at the wheel.

[B]

Scary, man.

[A]

It's like. No, I know that it's not for that.

[B]

I'm going to be driving old vehicles the rest of my life, I think. I'm not getting anything past 27.

[A]

I, I'm with you, man. I'm with you. I'm, I'm the same.

[B]

As long as that stays in place. I mean, even with the Tesla now, it kind of monitors your eyes, I believe.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. With the self driving technology. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So it's already to a certain degree

[A]

implemented and it's always labeled as safety.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You trade in your freedoms for safety and convenience. That has been the trade off forever. So. Oh, it's going to make my life easy. Oh, I won't have to work that much like all of that. It's exactly meant to control us. Look at ubi, Universal Basic Income, they will make it so appealing. It's going to be big numbers, even bigger than what you used to make working slaving away for 50, 60 hours a week. They're going to say, this is the amount that we're going to offer you. But in order to get this amount, you will need to comply with whatever the rules. And if ever, for example, you jaywalk, you travel too many times and your carbon footprint is too high, let's say that you made a post that is not really in line with what we're trying to push. Then unfortunately you will only get 40% of the UBI this month. And this is how they control you. They create a subservient population and they create huge incentives like UBI in order to have us just funnel into that slavery system.

[B]

Scary.

[A]

It is. But this is why we have to talk about and we have to be aware of it. Yeah, it's like ultimately, you know, I look at my life and I'm like, my life like is Actually pretty good if I don't look at all this stuff. But. And I don't have to do this, you know, I don't have a sponsorship. I don't accept any sponsorship.

[B]

Really? Yeah.

[A]

Zero.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because I want my message to be a hundred percent authentic, and I live by integrity. So as soon as I start to take sponsorship, then what happens? My integrity and my allegiance, they start to shift. So I look at it and I'm like, man, like, I don't have to do this, but I feel like if nobody with a voice is doing this, then the train is just gonna run us over.

[B]

I mean, it's resonating. You're getting a good following lately.

[A]

I am. And I think that it's really based on that, you know, the fact that I'm authentic and I don't take sponsorships.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And thankfully, I don't have to had businesses in the past. I have created a situation for me to, you know, put me in a comfortable situation. But I go back to the human design and the Sphinx code. When I look at my soul's journey, this is part of it. I am supposed to be a projector that is supposed to channel information, channel downloads, and spread it to the population. So I don't do it for money. I just do it because I'm aligned right now with my design.

[B]

Yeah. Are you meditating when you're channeling, or how does that process work?

[A]

So I do psychedelic breath work.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Which doesn't involve psychedelics.

[B]

Really? Yeah. Oh, holotropic, right?

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you just. You do like 40 minutes of. Of extreme breaths from the stomach, going to the chest, going to the crown chakra, and then you just do it. And you do it for 10 minutes, and you do four rounds of that. And at some point, you will be in a state where you are super calm, your whole body is tingling. You start to see sacred geometry, and you're able to channel information. You're able to communicate with another band of frequency.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And once you do that, then you realize that you don't need nothing. No psychedelics, no drugs, no nothing. And you can actually regulate yourself. This is where you find that human beings are incredible creatures. We're super powerful, but everything around us is meant to take our power away. So once we dive into what we're capable of and we remove this fear that has been manufactured all around us, we realize that we are powerful beings and we should be uniting. And when we look at each other, it should be about unity. When I look at you, for example, I don't see, you know, a tall, Asian, white. I don't exactly know your cultural background. What I see is a soul. A soul that has its journey, that wants to do something in order to spread the message. So I don't know the exact mission, but when I look at you, I see a soul. So if I remove the labels and my preconceived opinions about anything that's linked to your labels, that's how we can unite. This is how we can have a conversation. Because everything else is just meant to divide us.

[B]

Yeah. Gender, race, all that. Democrat versus Republican.

[A]

Yes, yes, I agree. And when you look at everything that divides us, it's so easy. And look at even the alternative media right now. A lot of the big podcasters, big radio shows, they, you know, they used to be like, oh, I'm Republican. I'm like, pro Trump. And now that Trump is, like, messing up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, oh, well, you know, if Trump doesn't do this, I'm going to vote Democrat. It's like, yeah, but you're still trapping us into the same band of frequency of left versus right and liberal versus conservative. I don't believe in that. I believe that there is a place for us to be united. It's just that it's generational. There's. There's so many layers to that onion that we have to decouple from in order to understand how we can actually unite.

[B]

Yeah. I wonder if our lifetime, a third party will emerge.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at it right now, and we are seeing a huge awakening. Look, since COVID there's so many people that finally realize, like, oh, the government doesn't have my best interests at heart.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then from there, they're looking at their options. And the government knows this. I mean, the people above the government, they know that there's a huge awakening. So we have to redirect this energy somewhere. We either have to redirect on the opposite party, the opposite political party, or we have to redirect them into another label, or we have to redirect them into a religion. So even when you're. Even if you spit the truth, even if you really have a lot of accurate things that you're saying, but you keep pushing your religious ideologies, it's still dividing us. So I will respect any religion. If you're with Christ, no problem. If you're Jewish, no problem. If you are Muslim, no problem. But don't push it on everybody else, because this is where the trap Is this is where the division happens. And for me, this is where I, you know, I believe that there's a big movement that's currently happening with, like, this anti Semitic movement.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, oh, you're not allowed to say this because of this. And it's like, yeah, you can't point and just be like, oh, it's all of them. Because as soon as you do that, this is where we lose, because it's still creating groups.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

So, you know, I talk about that on the. On the reels that I create. There's one. It's called the division trap. And I believe it's almost three minutes. And this is one that I suggest to watch, because all this energy that we have, it's being manipulated, and it's being manipulated very, very suddenly, and it's ultimately dividing us. So even religion, I'll respect your God. And if you believe that, you know, this is what it is, no problem. But as long as you keep it at home.

[B]

Yeah. You've never tied yourself to a religion.

[A]

I have never. Yeah. I was lucky enough because I was raised by my grandparents. On my grandpa's tombstone, it's written, he believed in the collective consciousness, and he had Parkinson's disease when I was very young. So I never got to learn much from him. But my grandma, she told me so many stories. And, you know, he lived in Burkina Faso for over 20 years. So for him, it's like, you know, race, gender, skin color, like, all of that, like, it meant nothing to him.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

How can we help the situation with the water, irrigation, with the fields, with the crops. How can we help? So this is about a collective community. And in the collective community, even over there, you may have some people that are Muslim and you may have some people that are Christian. So this is not about. It's about a common goal. And once we start, you know, having these grassroots movement that are moving us in the right direction in a unified way, this is where I believe there's a real hope, you know, for us to stop looking at the world like black or white.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's nuances, but ultimately there's a place of unity.

[B]

What about good versus evil? You believe in that?

[A]

I absolutely believe in that. You know, I had a. Had a conversation about that recently, and what I thought was one of the most accurate way that you can say it is like anything that's evil is also a frequency. And you feel it in your body. Your body kind of like, you know, retracts. It kind of contracts. You don't Feel so good because there's that, you know, evil energy that, you know, does not meet your energy. And whenever it's good and joy and hope and fun and success and dreams and love, then your body expands and it just. You just feel good. It's like, healthy. Your body feels healthy. And I think that that's the main distinction. And people feel it. You know, sometimes, like, you'll probably have a guest on and you'll feel like a weird distortion because you know that there is something that's trapped in the soul and that is creating a distortion. And it's not. You know, maybe it's a scar or trauma that happened in childhood. Maybe it's some affiliations that they have, maybe it's some allegiance that they have. But you feel it right away. You know what's good. It's like you just feel like, oh, you know, whoever's next to me, like, I know where this person stands. And sometimes you. You have someone next to you and you can't really tell. There's a lot of distortion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that, for me, is that good versus evil that's capable of entering the body.

[B]

I've noticed. Sometimes they don't even know.

[A]

No, they don't know, you know. Yeah. And sometimes they don't even know. And they think that they have the right solution, but they haven't done enough work on themselves.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is where I always advise people to work on yourself. Do breath work, you know, do a sweat lodge, meditate. Detach yourself a bit from the Matrix. Detach yourself even from your friends and family. Just to be in a zone where, like, you are connected to nature. And from there you can find so many answers and purity and cleanliness. So, yeah, you'll never know if you don't look.

[B]

Yeah. You get a lot of your answers from within, it sounds like, whereas most people, they're getting answers from social media, from someone else.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not directly from source, you know.

[A]

Yeah. We have to be very careful about that because we have to know that the people that are manipulating the algorithm, they're pushing a lot of stuff and it's being allowed, you know, to go viral.

[B]

Yeah. Right now, body modification is pretty hot for men. Looks maxing, they call it.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's getting billions of views. I see what they're pushing with Iran War. It's always, like, something to bring your energy down.

[A]

Yeah. So. So this is where you have to take a step back. Take a step back and see, like, where do they want to bring the world? And I'm Sure. You know a bit about transhumanism. So why would you promote certain things that are distorting the body, you know, promoting these technologies, these surgeries is because you are trying to create this one bot, one automaton, this like non participating character that will be subservient to the agenda. So for that you have to create all these genders, all these labels. Everything can kind of like distort the purity of the nuclear family. And from there it's much easier, much easier to control. If you weaken men with everything that we're seeing with like toxic masculinity and all this stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like you will obviously have a, a clear path to conquer whatever you need to conquer. Because the first line of defense is strong masculine men that stand up and say, no, we're not doing it. This is our family, this is our children. So if that's your target, then you try to weaken them, then it's going to be easier for you to penetrate.

[B]

Do you think men right now are the weakest ever of all time?

[A]

Yeah, certainly, certainly. But I will say also that there is a huge rise and awakening for masculine men. And they realize that they have a calling. They realize that it's time to move, you know, know, outside of their shell and, and put themselves out there. So you see it, there's a lot of like man groups that are being created in order to like refine their, Their limits.

[B]

Their manhood.

[A]

Yeah, their manhood. Like we didn't have to do that way back in the days. It was just like, yeah, we're man. Like that's it. We do what we have to do. But now it's like we have to decouple from everything that has been shut. Look at the fashion shows in the 80s and 90s, masculine men. Look at the fashion shows today. Look at all of the luxury brands. Look at the men. They're all like distorted. They're all weak feminine. They're all feminine. And that. It's like, why are you doing, why is it being pushed by the biggest brands on the planet? Well, let's dig a little bit. Let's see who owns these brands. Oh, it's all part of the same group, the same private equity that is funding all these other products and services that are part of this, you know, 2030 agenda is ultimately meant to enslave us. And feminizing, that is part of it.

[B]

There's men wearing dresses now. Yeah, crazy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I saw, I saw a video of like a compilation of like all the like yeah.

[B]

Humiliation ritual. Who knows?

[A]

And. And, you know, like, whether it is or not, and, you know, like, this is what I say about so many, you know, conspiracies out there. Whether it's true or not, why is it being advertised? And why are people talking about. We always have to look at the agenda of. Ultimately, they want to control our perceptions. That's, like, the end goal.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And if it plays somewhere in there, then we know why it's being talked about. So the, you know, humiliation ritual or, you know, all these celebrities that, like, lost a closed one or, you know, transgenderism. Yeah. Like, a lot of people say, oh, it's a sacrifice you have to make at the altar of Satan in order to move up in their satanic club. And it's like, okay, so what? Oh, well, does that mean. It ultimately means that they're trying to push something that will distort us and normalize. Normalize this transgenderism, which ultimately creates more suicide, creates more money for Pfizer and all the hormone therapy drugs, create all of these, you know, this, like, child confusion, because it's like they're trying to normalize it with Drag Queen story hour and all that. So it's like they're pushing it, and you're like, it is bad. So I will push back on it. I don't really care whether it's like, oh, it's for Satan, or it's a sacrifice or, okay, well, then what's the solution? We always have to look at, okay, they are doing it. It's in our face. Will this ultimately empower us or disempower us? And this is how I look at the world in general. Will it empower us and unite us or not? And if I see something that is not doing that, that is not unifying us or empowering us, then I will call it out. That's why I make observations. I just do it because I believe that, you know, I don't need clicks. I don't get paid.

[B]

You already made your money.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't care about that stuff. All I care about is just for this. This awakening to stay real and to move in the direction that does not get labeled as, like, oh, all these people are now like, you know, they're with Christ or they're with Hala or they're with this or that group. And it's like, no, but that's still a trap.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So even if I respect, you know, all of them, like, all of them for speaking out, I'm sure that, you know, there was probably Some, like, once you get, like, too big.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, you probably get approached and say, hey, like, you have a huge following. And, like, the approach is probably not as, like, demonic.

[B]

Yeah, it's not. I've talked to Nick Cannon about this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They'll be like, let me invest in your company. Yeah, let's go to dinner. Let's talk business.

[A]

Yeah. So it's, you know, it's done in a really, like, candid way. And ultimately, I cannot blame these guys because if they have, you know, children and family and a wife and, you know, like, a comfortable living and they can think that they can influence the world still, like, in a positive light, then they will avoid certain subjects. They will say, like, okay, you know what? I'm going to keep on with my show. I will keep doing what I do, but I'm going to stir the message a little bit in this or that direction because, you know, I don't want to get canceled.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I've been asked to not talk about certain stuff. I'm not like, a list or anything, but.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I've been asked in weird ways.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I'm sure I've received a lot of interesting. The. I receive a lot of interesting. I bet you have, like, and from, like, a lot of, like, a list people.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, I could, like, I know I'm on the radar, but I'm not on, like, you know, the, like, the main radar. Like, not, like, big enough, I believe, but still, like, I have a lot of a listers that, like, love my stuff and, like, they just want to chat.

[B]

Yeah. It must be frustrating having that level of influence, but you can't talk about what you want.

[A]

Yeah. You know, because there's so many people that are, you know, part of Hollywood, that are part of the music industry that, like, they actually feel and saw the same things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they understand what we're saying. They understand that, like, ultimately they want to bring the power back to them and their families. And if they feel like they have to compromise, then there's a loss in their integrity and their authenticity.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And the people are not stupid. People see it right away.

[B]

100. DJ Khaled. He didn't speak about Palestine once.

[A]

I made a whole reel about it.

[B]

Oh, you did? I didn't even know.

[A]

Yeah. And I explained it's like, okay, like, you bring good vibes and, you know, another one. And, you know, it's a. It's like, you know, God did and like, all the stuff that, like, ultimately, it's kind of, like, positive and uplifting. But when it comes down to the real issues, like, are you willing to put your career on the line and be like, hey, there's something off. It's part of my family. Like, I want to be a beacon of hope. It's like, why didn't you look at Mac Miller? No, sorry, Macklemore.

[B]

Macklemore, yeah, Macklemore.

[A]

He stood up and he spoke. He gave this whole speech about it, and, you know, you have to deal with the consequences, but ultimately, you look at authenticity, and I'm gonna buy this guy's record a thousand times more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Than any other record because he was willing to be in his design, he was willing to be in his truth and say, like, what ultimately we all saw in 4K. Like, we all saw that stuff in real time. And it's like you're trying to tell us that, like, we're not allowed to speak about the things that, like, we can all see clearly from, like, you know, a thousand different angles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this is where you go back even to Covid. All these, like, rebel groups, you know, like Green Day and Foo Fighters. They're like, oh, you want to come to my show? You have to be vaccinated. It's like, I thought you were, like, anti government. I thought you were, like, super, like, you know, badass and Rage against the Machine and all this stuff. And it's like, no, you're not. You're just part of the establishment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we have to be careful who we give power to, who we buy our records from, who do we listen to? Because, you know, it's like, one day they're going to do that to us, and then it goes, oh, you know, I'm sorry for this, and, like, their life just goes on. But there's no accountability. And people still buy their records, go to the show, and they don't remember. These people have done things that most likely has created a lot of problems for a lot of people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you have huge influence. Huge influence. Like a Leo DiCaprio or. I mean, you know, the list is infinite, but it's like, you have a huge influence, a huge platform, and you talk about something that ultimately is not going to be, like, positive for us. It's like, if it doesn't empower us, I don't want to listen to you. Or if you're not, like, a professional in that specific subject, then, you know, it would be very hard for me to trust you, because then you have to look at the allegiance, like, who's their agent? What's the whole institution? Yeah, like, there's a lot of handlers and like, okay, like, what does this celebrity saying that does ultimately? And it pushes the agenda.

[B]

That's why I'm never getting a manager.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I want to be. I want to make my own decisions. Like, I don't ever want to take a chance and find out I'm being handled or something weird, you know.

[A]

Well, honestly, that's very respectful. And this is the type of move that people make that ultimately inspires. It's moves like that. If you ask me, I have no agents, no sponsors. It's just me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even I edit my own videos.

[B]

Wow. You don't have an editor.

[A]

That's crazy because I want to pick the exact image that based on my thoughts and what I'm saying, like, I want to do it myself.

[B]

Full creative control. Yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

Because as soon as you. As soon as you include something from the external world, it's like, yeah, maybe it's going to get a. There's a chance, maybe there's a chance that it's not going to be exactly what it is. So, yes, I do want to have control and I enjoy it. I a creative. I'm an artist at the basis.

[B]

So did you design this shirt?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I designed this jacket.

[B]

Wow. So you design all your barrel?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

That's impressive.

[A]

100%.

[B]

Cuz usually there, when. When it comes to clothing, I feel like there's a visionary and then someone that's the operator.

[A]

No, no, I am. I've trained myself for three years. I've traveled in Europe. I met some of the most amazing people in the fashion industry and they went through a rigorous, rigorous test in terms of are they awake or not, what's their values, who did they work with, was the materials that they like to select and play with. And ultimately I only have three partners.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I have one in Italy and two in Turkey. And it's small family businesses that are in line with the values. So when they see my content, like, I love that last video. Like it's people that want ultimately a world that's more empowered and united for the, for the people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's the energy that goes into the clothes that I design.

[B]

That's awesome, man.

[A]

Yeah. So it's called vertical integration. In your values, you just vertically integrated from the, from the idea to the design to the fabric, to the manufacturing, to the, the packaging, the warehouse, like everything, like, from, from top to bottom. Like, I have some level of control on it and I know that it comes from a high band of frequency.

[B]

Well done. Yeah. I mean, it was noticeable as soon as I put it on.

[A]

I appreciate that.

[B]

I've trained myself because meeting thousands of people, I have to protect my energy, so I've become more sensitive to that. I'm better at reading people, feeling things now.

[A]

I think it's super important. And you're a young guy and, like, honestly, your. Your star is only going to go up and it's only going to move in the right direction as long as you have this alignment with yourself or, like, because opportunities is going to come at you. There's no question you're. You're making a lot of noise. You're doing a lot. A lot of podcasts. You're very active. And I think it's. It's really just like a matter of time that at some point there's going to be a huge offer.

[B]

Appreciate that. It's a tough space.

[A]

Oh, I'm sure.

[B]

Yeah, it's a tough space. Very up and down. Almost quit a couple of times. Really? Yeah. I mean, the money aspect is tough, so if you don't start with a safety net, it's just really hard. Then you got to rely on sponsors and gets tricky.

[A]

Do you find that it has created anxiety for you?

[B]

Yes. The missing scientists, lately, I'm not going to lie, that's affected me a little bit.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Have you seen that? About what, there's like, 12 missing scientists recently. Missing or dead. One of them knew a lot of people in my circle.

[A]

Really?

[B]

They're all related to, I believe, UFOs or something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Or some sort of travel, really. So that scared me a bit. I've also had six guests pass away, really, since I've started the show. So that's always in the back of my head. And then the haters. Not really anymore at first, maybe a little bit. But I get it every day now. I get death threats all the time.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I think that this is what it is, ultimately is. It's like, once you rock the boat, you may rock the boat enough that, like, you will get an opportunity from a big player. And like your conversation with Nick Cannon, you know, it's probably presented in a way that it's like, oh, it's, you know, we're going to expand your reach and we're going to do this and that and your choice. I think, like, ultimately it's what is my current chapter for my life. And maybe, you know, the Social Hour is a chapter, and maybe you're gonna move on from that at some point, like, maybe you're gonna have children.

[B]

Yeah. Who knows?

[A]

You know, like, we don't know. So, like, everything is experiences, and this is why, like, we can't be so black or white. There's nuances in everything. So even in my content, like, I try to find the angle that will empower and unite us, but there's nuances in everything I say. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I don't have the full information. I was, I wasn't there in the meeting room. I wasn't there in the boardroom. I wasn't there when this or that event happened. I'm just looking and absorbing information and I'm trying to see, like, how. How can this specific event move the needle of the agenda to try to enslave us? And I try to find, like, okay, well, this is helping this, this is helping that, but how does it help us? So, you know, like, this is my angle right now, and this is what I do now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I haven't been doing it for, for super long. I had this, like, calling about truth for a really long time. I mean, I've been rapping since like 2005 about stuff. So, you know, shortly after, like, 9 11, this is where I, I started to question things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, a lot of things doesn't make sense. Like Building seven and then it created a whole rabbit hole to be like, okay, like, you know, what we're watching is not necessarily the truth. And why are human beings so, so concerned about the truth is because they know that inside of them there is something that's hiding. That's their North Star, that's directly in line with the truth. So they're always searching for it to some extent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And as long as we get the truth stifle, then we're never going to be able to reach, like, what's our true purpose, our true shine. And I would like that every human being are capable of finding that shine. It's so important. It's like, what, you're going to live an entire life, like, misaligned, just like slaving away to some big corporation when it's like it has nothing to do with your soul's purpose.

[B]

Right. So that's a lot of people. Like you said earlier, do you believe in universal truths or do you think everyone's living in their own reality and has different truths?

[A]

Yeah, I believe that everyone has their own reality and, and it's their point of perceptions, you know, and it's how the. How. How does information travels within Your own personal experiences. And, you know, there's something that may be a lie for me, but it may be a truth for you, and it's part of your reality. It's what you're living. Like, I'm not living that. It's not my truth. So. But at the same time, if you look at, you know, the truth about how things are run and how, like, the world is run.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That I believe that if you really dig, dig, dig, dig, like, at some point you arrive to an answer. But even if you arrive at that answer, which, like, ultimately, personally, I don't really care. I don't care who it is. I don't care. Even if it's entities that, like, are not human. Like, I don't care about any of that. What I care about is how does it make our daily lives better or not? And if I can say or do something that will ultimately be a beacon of inspiration and hope and strength and. And respect for the rest of the world. And I think that it's the right way to go about it, because I really don't care. Like, oh, my God, can you believe that?

[B]

So.

[A]

And so is, like, doing this and is run by. Okay, but how does this make my life better? And if it doesn't, like, I don't need to.

[B]

Yeah. People get caught up with that stuff. The Rockefellers and all the Illuminati.

[A]

Yeah. So it's like, yeah, okay, and how does that make your life better? And I think that this is an exercise that's so important specifically for, like, the truth space and the conspiracy state. And, like, we have to look at these things and just be like, okay, I'm gonna look at myself in the mirror and I'll be like, how does this make my daily life better?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if it doesn't, then I don't need to even pay attention to it.

[B]

Yeah. Because I think people do more harm than good when they get too deep into it, because then it's affecting your subconscious.

[A]

Oh, there's so many people that told me, like, man, like, as soon as I opened the rabbit hole, now I'm, like, depressed. My whole world is dark and all that. It's like, yeah, well, you know, why. Why go in that route in a way that, yes, like, it's good to understand how the world works, but the real goal always has to be, how can this make my life better in the life of the people that I care about in my communities or my wife or my kids? It's going to make all of that better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if it doesn't, then I don't want to be submerged in a world of a low, dark frequency. It's like, it's only there to, like, you know, make my whole body, like, shut down and sick. And, you know, I don't. I don't need that in my.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

So I stay super optimistic. Me, I'm super enthusiastic about the future. Me, I really believe, because that's the energy that I want to put out there. So even if I know that a lot of things, you know, it's meant to enslave us, it's made, you know, to control us. Well, I. I would really like to still live an enjoyable life because. What's the other option? Darkness and depression.

[B]

It's a lot of people, man.

[A]

Dude, I don't know.

[B]

If I had a guess. We can look it up, but the percentage of people pessimistic versus optimistic, it's

[A]

probably 80, 20, really?

[B]

If I'd guess, we'll look it up after this, but I just feel like most people are not optimistic.

[A]

Well, you know, I don't even know

[B]

if you can measure that, but just people I interact with. I'm going anecdotal on that.

[A]

Yeah. But I can tell you something. What we need to do is find daily actions that we can do that will ultimately make our lives better. And right before coming here, I wrote down, like, a, you know, 25 points.

[B]

Let's go through it.

[A]

And I can go through it, and I'm just gonna read it. And I think that your audience can maybe latch on 1 or 2 or 5 or 10, but there will. They will find a point in there that they will gravitate around because it's a high frequency. It's just made for us to be like, you know what? Okay. There's all this doom and gloom, and everything's dark, and they're controlling us. They're taking our rights away. Yes. And we have to fight for that, but we still have to enjoy our lives, and we still have to be filled with the light of love.

[B]

So

[A]

whenever you're ready.

[B]

Yeah, let's do it. Read it off.

[A]

Okay, so. And again, it's not in a specific order, but it's meant so that your audience can listen to it and perhaps find a way to fight back or find a way to make their lives better. So it starts like this. Use cash as much as possible. Do not consume seed oils, refined sugars, or lab foods. Switch from pills to plants. Switch from science to nature. Switch from news to critical thinking. Vote with your dollar only Buy from companies that are in line with your values. Research who are the shareholders of anything you buy or anything you use. Use ProtonMail and Signo to communicate. Use Brave to browse. Switch to a satellite phone, a flip phone or an above phone. Homeschool your children or look at Montessori schools. Then unfollow influencers that are dividing us. Don't idolize celebrities. Watch movies for entertainment, but not for virtue. Do a human design reading or a sphinx code reading to understand your soul's purpose and your North Star. Remove the labels when you meet someone, look at the heart, dive in the soul. Do not use OnlyFans or commit to your partner. Commit to your family. Feminism is a scam. Create a community. Be part of your community. Make it self sufficient with energy efficiency and farm to table foods. Live outside the matrix, outside of the city, but understand its ways and understand its threats. Demand free energy, demand justice and demand accountability. If you don't get it, get with your communities and show up at your elected officials door because remember that they work for you. Be fearless. This life is just an experience. Do you want to just exist, die and then come back? Or do you want to live out what you came here to do and ascend to the next level? Stay creative, stay confident, stay with love. If we vibrate on the frequency of love, evil cannot penetrate.

[B]

Oh, it's beautiful. I loved a lot of that.

[A]

Thank you, man.

[B]

Yeah, that was great. I did look up the stats. We'll end with this. 42 to 66 of people are optimist. Depends on the country. Okay. Apparently in China it's really high, so it's really interesting. Yeah.

[A]

Well, again, are these stats skewed?

[B]

You never know with studies.

[A]

Like, if you have a tyrannical government, then you basically own everything, including the polls, the stats, the perceptions. But if you go to China and you look at the history, you look at the history of the Falun Gong, for example, and how, you know, tyranny has penetrated this nation. If they were allowed, you know, to really say like, how they feel and what's going on in their hearts. I don't know if these will be the exact numbers.

[B]

Yeah. Because you could have made your clothing there, made way more money, but I bet you went there and you didn't like the conditions.

[A]

Hundred thousand percent. I had opportunities in Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, India, but. And I could have made way more money, like way more. But that's not what I'm about.

[B]

It's like a sweatshop over there, right? Yeah, some of them.

[A]

It's And. And, like, here's what's crazy. A lot of them brands, and the favorite brands of a lot of people, the big luxury brands.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

What they do is they. They create. They manufacture up to 70 or 80% of the item in China. They ship them to Italy or France, and then over there, they have their team that adds the wash label and, you know, certain trims. And they say made in Italy. Oh, yeah. This is documented.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

This is documented left, right, and center.

[B]

I know. They do that with meat, too. Yeah. Grocery stores.

[A]

Yeah. Because the government, you know, based on the country, they have certain laws of the domestic content that's required in order to say it. It's like Italian or so.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

There's so many loopholes. And when I studied the whole fashion game, I was so disappointed. And this is why I decided to do it, because how do we enjoy life still? We enjoy life by doing what we enjoy. Creativity, fun, and. Yeah, like, I want to fight the Matrix, but at the same time, I want to do something I love. And for me, I love fashion and I love, love creating. So it's like, what? I'm just gonna do, like, videos and, you know, like, hoping that, like, one day something's gonna happen. It's like, no. In the meantime, I want to also do something that's fun, that I gravitate around, and that will make my life more enjoyable.

[B]

I love it, man. We'll link the website below if anyone wants to buy something.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Thanks for coming on, man.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

Yeah, check them out, guys. Thanks for watching. All the way to the end, guys. Please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.