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When they say, I'm going to help you. Oh, by the way, here's the trip. 99% of doctors who do this, they don't even know they're doing it. They're doing it inadvertently. They think it's the needle, the adjustment. They think it is.
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Yeah.
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Like, the acupuncturist is like, I've been an acupuncturist for 20 years. I've helped a lot of people. It is the needles and the chiropractor's. Like, I've helped a lot of people. It's the adjustment.
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B
All right, guys, Dr. Pete Goldman here. Today we're going to talk health and healing. Can't wait to hear your story, man.
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Thank you. I'm. I'm very happy to be here.
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B
Yeah, it's all started being a chiropractor.
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Right. So when I was a kid growing up in Brooklyn, New York, where I'm born and raised, I grew up in kind of a unique family in the sense that most families, I think, you know, they go to medical doctors, they get like, you know, they get vaccinated, they get their checkup, you know, whatever, or maybe if they don't feel well, they go to the medical doctor. I grew up in a house where we didn't. Like, we had kind of three primary doctors we would use. I mean, we were healthy, but just for whatever. We had a naturopath who works with, like, herbs and diet. We had a homeopath that's a kind of healing, and we had a chiropractor. So I kind of just grew up under that umbrella of natural healing. It never occurred to me to do it. I didn't want to be a chiropractor. I didn't want to be a doctor. Didn't even. It wasn't even on my radar. And I went to college. I was an economics major, which is. Was more my interest, like investment banking and things like that. And then it's. After I graduated college a few years later, I decided to be a chiropractor. So I went to chiropractic school. So I'm officially a chiropractor. I would say almost in name only. And then I had a very interesting path where I just learned some very interesting and powerful aspects of healing that I would say transcend chiropractic. Not that chiropractic's not great. I have full respect for the profession and other chiropractors, but I kind of went in a different path.
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B
Yeah. Because chiropractors, that's just one form of healing.
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Right, it is. And if you think about it, it's an interesting thing. And obviously you're a smart guy. So when I say this, you'll, you'll relate to this. When someone wants to know, you know, what heals? What, what heals? Like, why do people heal when they heal, and why do people not heal when they don't heal? So let's just take like a simple thing like asthma. Let's just say, you know, you have a friend who has asthma, and you see, you know, here's a little inhaler. He's okay. It's not, you know, it's not terrible, but kind of once a day he has to use his inhaler because, you know, his, his lungs are not functioning well. So let's just pretend someone with asthma went to, you know, they're trying to solve it. They don't want to use their inhaler anymore. They want their lungs to be healthy. They don't want to have to rely on an inhaler, right? So we already know that. The medical doctor said, look, you know, it's, it's not a terrible condition, but here's this inhaler. You'll probably use it your whole life. Your lungs don't really. Your lungs don't really function properly by itself. So you have this inhaler. So maybe they go to a chiropractor, let's just say, and the chiropractor says, listen, there's a bone called T3, kind of pointing to it, of the area and the nerves that emanate from T3 go to your lungs and your bronchial tubes. So if that bone is out of place, putting pressure on that nerve as it leaves the spinal column, potentially your lungs and bronchial tubes are not getting the right signals, so maybe they're not functioning right. And now you have what's called asthma. But I'm going to put this bone in place, take pressure off the nerve, and then theoretically, you'll breathe perfectly and will not need your inhaler anymore. Now, that's happened many times. That's happened hundreds of thousands, maybe millions.
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B
I don't know of just some, one adjustment.
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Well, it could be one adjustment or it could be 20, but after, you know, or 30 or 10 or whatever, because everyone heals a thrown rate. But after a certain amount of adjustments getting that bone in place, it could open up the nerve flow and they don't have asthma. Many people have gone to chiropractors and don't have asthma. Now, some people have gone to chiropractors with asthma and it didn't work. We'll get into that later if you like. But the point is, from the outside, like I said, a sharp guy like you, you might be like, hmm, Well, I guess medical doctors can't really fix asthma, but I guess chiropractors can. But if we believe that it may or may not be true, we would. We would think, oh, I guess the cause of asthma is this T3 bone being out of place. Like when you put it in place, it goes away. Okay, could be. But let's say someone says, you know what, I have a friend who's an acupuncturist, or I have a friend who knows an acupuncturist and they go to the acupuncturist who's not looking at the bones, not looking at T3, not looking at so called nerve impingement at T3. And the acupuncturist says, I'm going to feel your pulse. I'm going to look at your tongue. That's what acupuncturists do to analyze the body. Like, you know, if me and you felt someone's pulse, we just like feel like whatever that meant to us. But an acupuncturist, the. The pulse reading they do is so specific. They can evaluate all the organs of your body and all the systems of your body. That's how acupuncture works. Also, they can look at your tongue and they can tell about your body. So an acupuncturist might look at your tongue and feel your pulse. Right. And then they put needles in certain places to open up. From what I. I'm not an acupuncturist, but from what I understand, meridians, which are like energy channels. Yeah. So many people have gone to acupuncturists and they don't have asthma anymore, so some might. So like I said, me and you were like, oh, maybe. Maybe acupuncture is the cure for asthma. They didn't look at T3 like the chiropractor. So if the chiropractor says no, the pro. The cause of Asthma is a T3 misalignment. Putting it in place as a solution. Well, is that always. So if the acupuncturist can take care of it without putting that. Okay, so then we go to a.
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B
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A
Homeopath, which is a kind of healing and someone takes a homeopathic dose. Now they have a no asthma, but they never got the needles. So. So when you think about what really heals, it's a little mysterious at that point because why can they always work? So anyway, there are underlying principles and I would say a common, a common denominator of healing. And when one understands that, they kind of will understand why healing works when it works and why healing doesn't work when it doesn't work.
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B
Yeah. Do you think a common denominator is the mindset of the person getting healed?
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I do. And I would actually say very, very good. And I would actually say that there's a lot of specifics to that because there's a difference between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. Now, of course, we're just using terminology to quantify things that are really hard to quantify. But it's not like we're walking around with an actual, with a mind that's split in two, that's conscious and subconscious. But we're just doing our best to, you know, talk about it. So one could say that their conscious mind is things that they're aware of. Like you're sitting here right now, you're like, oh, this is an interesting interview, or whatever, we're uncomfortable or it's too hot in here, or it's too cold in here, or the temperature is great in here. That's, that's your conscious mind. But sub meaning below subconscious just means below consciousness. So we all have things below our conscious, you know, below that what we're kind of aware of at the moment, but it's still in there. So just to be clear, how do they get in the subconscious? How do these things get in the subconscious? And once they're in the subconscious, how do they play out in the body and the life? So it appears from, you know, a lot of observation that the concepts in our subconscious, whether we're aware of Them or not are manifesting in our body as either health or disease or whatever. And that goes to what you were saying about the mindset of the person, healing or not healing, and also has to do with things manifesting in our life. What's playing out in our life. Now, what happens is when you're roughly 7 years old, roughly, your conscious mind forms. So there's almost like a barrier over your subconscious, which is kind of A, protecting your subconscious and B, making you maybe not totally aware of what's in it because it's subconscious. Unless you, maybe you do like a dream therapy. I mean, I'm not an expert on dream therapy, but maybe someone's like, oh, you know, your dreams are really your subconscious, you know, at night, coming up. And then you talk about your dreams and you have an idea of what's in your subconscious. Could be. Or maybe they do a word association test where they put you in a relaxed state. They say certain words and you know, like, for example, you talk to someone and not talk to them, but you say, okay, I'm going to say these words, right? And, and you say to them like war. And they say bombs. I mean, that's no big deal. And they, you say like ocean. They say, wet, whatever. But then you say like, I'm just making this up. You. They say like father. And they go, love. They say like mother. And they're like, huh? And you're like, heard you mother. And they're like, I don't know. So already you can see that subconsciously there might be some issues or problems with their interaction or feelings about their mother. Now again, I'm not a expert on word association tests. I'm just giving an example. There's dream. There's dream analysis, there's word association tests. Then you get a kind of clue what's in the subconscious. But I would say this. Let's just say someone says, at this point in our chat, they're like, well, I know it's in my conscious because I'm thinking about it right now, but how do I really know what's in my subconscious? One way would be, one way to determine that would be to see. Look at your body and look at your life. And that's a pretty good representation of the concepts in your subconscious. Now, doesn't mean they can't change because someone could be ill or someone could not like their life, but they can change their concepts to improve what's in their life and improve their body, which is a different conversation. But back to one other point. How did it get like that in the first place. So I said at about 7 years old, the conscious mind is formed. Well, from birth till 7, you're kind of like one big subconscious. And all the stuff that happens around you from birth till 7 gets accepted as fact by your subconscious. You know, like if, if, if your parent tells you when you're five, hey, you're a great kid, you're super strong, you're super smart, you know, whatever, chances are those concepts of strength and intelligence and confidence will be in your subconscious even as an adult. But if a parent unfortunately says like, you know, negative stuff to the kid, that those concepts can get in the subconscious. So taking it fully to what you said about the mindset of the patient. Yes. Like let's, let's, and let's bring it back to the so called, you know, the imaginary example of the parent. The parent says, hey, when the kid's five, you're delicate, be careful, always button up, don't go out with your hair wet. You know, be, be careful when you go out. Always, you know, make sure that you're, you know, have the right jacket or whatever because you're very delicate. You have a weak immune system, right. So now that person grows up and they have this belief that they have a weak immune, subconscious belief that they have a weak immune system. And probably when it does get windy or they don't have the right jacket or their hair gets wet, they probably will get sick. Wow. But the kid whose parent says, you're made out of steel, you're tough, I mean, of course, take care of yourself, but don't worry about it, you're fine. You have a super strong constitution, a super strong immune system that gets in the subconscious. Now that kid's 26 years old, it's real windy, they forget their jacket, all their friends are like shivering or, you know, and they're like, no, I'm fine. And they probably will be fine. So a master healer, whether they're a chiropractor or acupuncturist or a medical doctor or some energy worker or a hypnotist or whatever, and a master healer will know how to identify what's in the subconscious in regards to health or, or disease and will know how to put a healing concept in the subconscious to manifest.
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B
So they, they're able to heal the subconscious without the person taking action?
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Well, first of all, yes, and let me, let me say a few things about that. A person, of course, can take action just with their own willpower. Like someone might just say, you know, What I'm, I'm going to start eating better, I'm going to start exercising better, et cetera, et cetera. Now that's them taking action that might help their body. But here's an important thing. Imagination always beats will. Not that will's not good. Because you like, for example, let's say, Sean, let's say you're like, I'm in pretty good shape, but I want to be in better shape. So I'm going to get up every morning and jog and then lift weights. Let's just say you decide to do that, you're a smart guy, you're a successful guy, you probably do have good willpower. And you, and then you're like, I've been eating a lot of desserts, I'm going to chill out with the desserts. You know, that's your willpower.
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Yeah.
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I'm not saying it's worthless. I'm not saying it doesn't work. But imagination beats it. So if someone has a concept, if someone has a concept in their subconscious, and that concept is that they're kind of like have low self esteem, they don't really feel worthy, things like that. And then they go in a job interview and the person starts interviewing them and that image they have of themselves, which maybe their parents told them that they were all those negative things, that takes over. Even if their willpower says before they walk in the interview, I'm going to be fine. I'm going to walk in there, I'm going to be confident it's going to fall apart because the will only goes so far, but the imagination will beat it. And a quick example of that, Sean, if we put a tightrope from where you're sitting over to that wall, but it's on the, you know, just taped on the floor, you could walk on it. Yeah, but if that floor wasn't there and there were two buildings with 130 floors on it, you know, your imagination of falling could make you lose your balance.
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B
Right. The pressure of it.
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Right. So that's why even if you're like, even if your will says I'm walking there, I'm. It doesn't matter because the imagination will beat it. So that's a little example. When you said without, you kind of said if the healer or doctor changes the person's subconscious, even if the person doesn't do anything, they can do stuff. Like I said, eat better, exercise, whatever. But yes, even without them doing something. Because there could be some, someone who has a concept of having, let's Just say terrible digestion. And they do have terrible digestion. And then the healer says, I'm going to do X, Y, Z and your digestion is going to heal if they have rapport together. And that idea of perfect digestion can go into the subconscious, either from the adjustment, maybe taking the pressure off the nerves to the digestive organs, the acupuncture needle which opens up the meridians for digestion, the herb which fixes digestion, as long as the image attached to it gets into the subconscious of the patient. They.
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B
Yeah. This reminds me of my friend Charlie Rocket, actually. He's been trying to lose weight for 10 years and documenting the journey on social media, but he just can't lose weight. He's doing all the right things physically. It must be some mental blockage or something.
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I would say a couple things. I'm not familiar with him, of course, but I would say a couple things. First of all, let's just take a physical level first. Let's just say his body is so unbalanced. I'm not saying it is, but let's just say his body's so unbalanced that even with good exercise and good eating, his metabolism is so off he can't lose weight. Let's say he went to a good healer. I mean, I could help him say he went to. I'm not, I'm not saying I'm the only one who could. But say he went to a good healer, got his metabolism balanced, then he eats well and exercises well like he's already doing, and then he most likely, most likely will lose weight. That's a physical answer. But let's talk about a non physical answer. Yes, if his concept, I mean this, this might sound almost radical or odd to people, but yes, if his concept is that he's fat and food makes him fat, he'll eat the same thing that he would eat if his concept was different. And it will actually have a different effect on his cells. Just to be clear. Wow. If you. Just to be clear about that, if, for example, let's just say you told me. I'm just making this up. Let's say you told me that you were allergic to gluten and dairy. You don't like to eat gluten and you know, when you eat gluten and dairy, you don't feel well right? Now let's say I said to you, I'm going to do XYZ to balance your body and then you're going to be able to eat gluten and dairy because you know I'd say a balanced body can eat gluten and dairy. A non balanced body maybe can't, but I'm going to balance your body with whatever I do. And then a month later, you're like, man, Dr. Pete was right. I mean, I'm eating pizza, I feel fine. I mean, right now, if I gave you a legit physical exchange, like a chiropractic adjustment or the technique I do or whatever, that's one path. But the placebo effect is very strong. So if I said to you, listen, Sean, I know you were having trouble with dairy and gluten. I know you were, but see this over here? This is a nat. It's totally natural. It's an herb. It has no side effects whatsoever. So if it doesn't work, the worst that will happen is nothing. Take this. I want you. I want you to take two a day. Not three, not one. Two a day for 30 days. This will reset and heal your entire digestive system. And then you'll be able to do it to eat gluten and dairy. If that idea gets in your subconscious, even if I'm giving you a freaking sugar pill, you'll be able to eat gluten and dairy. Wow.
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That's how strong the placebo is. And you see it in a lot of studies, too. There's always a study accounting for placebo.
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A
Right.
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And every single time, there's increased results.
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Totally.
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And that's the subconscious.
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Right? That is. That is that idea getting into the subconscious. You know, there was this really interesting. I read about this. I don't think this is. This is hard to find, but I read about this. They did. I don't know the exact details, but anyone who looks it up can find the exact details. It was a knee surgery study. Listen to this knee surgery study. And what they did was they took. I don't know the exact numbers, but I think it was about a hundred people who had real MRIs of their knees, who had like, you know, a meniscus or a ladder, whatever it was. They had real knee issues that showed up on an mri. And I think what they did was. And they all needed. They all needed surgery. They took, I think 50 of them and they did the surgery. They did a real surgery on them. And the other 50, they did a placebo surgery. They just put them under. They cut their knees. Wow. So to back up, they had the. I think almost to the exact number, or maybe was off by a number two, same improvement rate. They both had like a 64% rate. So imagine that 64% or whatever it was. Improvement rate, placebo knee surgery, and real knee surgery. That is crazy. That is so. And here's one. If you think that's crazy, check this out. There's a. There's a medical journal in England. I think it's pronounced Lancet. I mean, I may be pronouncing it wrong, but in America, we have, like, the New England Journal of Medicine. It's a. Like a medical journal, or one of the bigger, biggest ones, or maybe it's the biggest one. I don't know. And in England, they have Lancet. If I'm pronouncing it right, that's, like their version. So I read this in lanit. It was like one of those, like, historical issues where they talked about. Listen to. This is a real story. There was a guy. I think the year was 1902. And if it wasn't 1902, it was like 1904, but it was around 1902 in England. He was on death row. And what they. What they. Some of the doctors at the time in England were kind of understanding the things that we're talking about now, like the subconscious placebo or whatever, you know, or things in the subconscious manifesting things like that. And they wanted to experiment on this guy while they were executing him. He was on death row. I mean, I guess prisoners didn't have a lot of rights then. So they were like, we're just gonna. We're gonna. While we kill you, we're gonna experiment on you, right? So what they did is a real story. And they had, like. At the thing, they had people, you know, observing, like, some medical doctors and some people who kind of understood this subconscious stuff. What they did was they cut a slit on the back of his neck to slip, and they blindfolded him, and they told him he was going to bleed to death down his back. So they blindfolded him. They cut the slit, but then they sealed it right away so he lost no blood, or he. He lost a drop of blood. But remember, he's blindfolded. He felt the little cut. They told him they were going to have him bleed to death down his back. They dripped water over the cut. He had a sensation of bleeding to death down his back. He died in six minutes. Dead. He was dead. What? Dead in six minutes. And it gets better. Well, not better. It gets worse. Whatever. The word is, because they had the medical doctors there, his body, in those six minutes, underwent all the changes of someone bleeding to death. Oh, my gosh. He lost one drop of blood.
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B
So the body somehow knew how to.
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Simulate that totally because it just accepted that idea as a kind of an unfortunate idea. It accepted that idea, but you can do the opposite. I mean, I've had, I started taking care of patients in the mid-1990s. I don't know, I never tabulated, you know, Is that tens of thousands, hundreds? I don't know how many that was. But I've had people come to me. You know, when people think of chiropractic, right, they think like neck pain, back pain, shoulder pain, knee pain, which of course I can help. But when you think of chiropractic, you don't think of like livers and like pancreases and like thyroids and gynecological stuff and blood pressure. But that's actually what I did all these years and do and do and teach other doctors and healers how to do. Of course there's a physical component and I do teach a technique called the zone technique. Of course it's a physical component, but understanding how to identify the concepts in a patient's subconscious and changing them plays a huge role. And I would say this, it's pretty interesting. Let's just take hypnosis. Let's just discuss hypnosis for a moment. Now I'm, I'm not, I actually know how to do hypnosis. I'm not teaching hypnosis, but let's just discuss hypnosis. It's pretty fascinating. So imagine here's a person. Here's a person, right? And they have a conscious mind and a subconscious mind. And here's a hypnotist. Here's the hypnotist over here. So the way hypnosis works is when the hypnotist puts this person in a hypnotic state, or hypnotic trance or whatever you want to call it, their conscious mind says goodbye for the moment. It's not gone forever. But you know, for that half hour hypnosis session, their conscious mind is. Bye. No. So now, now their subconscious is wide open. They have certain concepts in their life. They can't stop smoking or they can't stop eating, or they have low self esteem or they're always tired or whatever their problem is, or they're, they're nervous around people, whatever their thing is. So they have these concepts. That's why they went to the hypnotist for some kind of healing or some kind of benefit. So the hypnotist puts the sub, excuse me, the conscious aside, then he or she talks right into the subconscious, right into the subconscious, right? And puts these New. Like, let's say they were, I don't know, uncomfortable in social situations. You're comfortable, you're confident. When you get around people, you're happy to be there. They're happy to see you, you're happy to see them. You love going to parties. Whatever they say, you know, whatever. And then that's in there, right? Then they take them out of their hypnotic state. Their conscious mind is put back. They're wide awake again. They're back on their normal faculties. But the concept is in there. And now if they go to a good hypnotist, hopefully they're like, man, they say they used to always be nervous at parties. And they're like, man, I go to parties. I feel. I mean, sometimes they don't want to go to a party. They want to stay home and relax. But when they do go around people, they feel fine. Or the person who always was anxious, right? And the hypnotist says, what do you mean you're always anxious? I mean, if you're standing online at Starbucks, are you nervous? Yes. Okay, so we already know they. They have the. So then they put them in this hypnotic trance, and they're saying, when you're in public, even when you're in private, when you're at home, when you're online at Starbucks, when you're on an airplane, when you're walking, when you. When you're in Sean's studio, whatever. Just calm as could be. As calm as could be. And this person, who knows they used to literally be online at Starbucks, nervous, ready to have a panic attack. Now they're like, I'm just waiting for my order. I mean, they may be annoyed that it's taking so long. They're still human. I'm not saying they won't have different emotions or thoughts, or maybe they're in a hurry, they're kind of late, whatever. But are they going to be standing there nervous? No, because of this. With a good hypnotist, that's putting us in. So with that said, I just wanted to explain that as a foundation. Let's talk about healing now. Now let's wipe that clean, right? We have a new clean slate. Here's a patient, right? This patient has whatever problem they have. This patient, it's a woman who has period cramps. Every. Every month she tells the doctor she can't even get out of bed because her period cramps are so bad. Every month, the first two days of her period are unbearable. You know, she takes Advil or whatever to make it a little better. Than it would have been. She also has very bad digestion, and she has also insomnia, and she also has neck pain. So that's, you know, she has, you know, period cramps, digestive problems, sleep problems, and neck pain. She presents with those things. So those are all manifesting in her body. Now, there's a subconscious component to that. So here's not a hypnotist. It's not a hypnotist. This is the acupuncturist. So this is the chiropractor, or this is the homeopath, which this is. This is the medical doctor, whoever this is a doctor. So this doctor is not going to hypnotize them. They're not a hypnotist, but they want to access their subconscious, which is a little trickier because they're. They're wide awake. They're not putting them in this hypnotic state where their conscious says goodbye. For the moment, they're wide awake, their conscious is active. They still want to get in the subconscious. This is a big subject I'm kind of summarizing. But in summary, if this patient has faith in this doctor, another word would be if they have rapport. Like they have some kind of rapport together. If this patient, like, for example, when I walked in, right, I said, how do you. You know, we met, we shook hands. And if someone right at that moment, just that moment said, hey, Sean, you want to want Pete to work on you? You want to get a healing? I mean, you might have said yes, because you might have read about me and know that I'm competent. But, you know, like, we had a pretty good rapport, but now we're talking, we have a better rapport.
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Yeah.
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So now you're like, yeah, I let Pete work on me. You know, if I had a problem, I go to Pete in a second. Because our rapport is building just from, you know, talking and, like, you understanding what I teach and things like that. Okay, Anyway, so here's. Now let's say they have rapport. This one, for whatever reason, this one has faith in this one, for whatever reason. Maybe they got a referral. Maybe their best friend, okay, their best friend was like. Their best friend had migraine headaches. They had migraine headaches. Their best friend's like, dude, I don't know what this guy does, but the migraines are gone. You've had them. No one's been able to fix. You go to this guy, your head will feel perfect. I mean, that's. You might go with some faith in them. Just from that there's different ways to get faith, but that's a way. Yeah. So now what happens is, check this out. Remember how I said there's this little barrier at seven years old between the conscious and the subconscious? So here's the conscious and the subconscious. Here's the barrier. What happens is the barrier opens. The barrier opens. If there's faith, if this has, if this one has faith in this one, the barrier to the subconscious, not hypnosis, they're wide awake. Because hip in Latin, I believe means sleep. So it's a sleep state. Now they're wide awake. But when there's rapport, this barrier opens. And now this person can just talk straight into this one, just from the conscious to the conscious and say, I'm going to put these needles in you and your head's going to feel better or I'm going to adjust to you and your head's going to feel better. And then it goes like this, conscious to conscious, in the subconscious. Because that, that barrier got open. Not hypnosis. Remember, hypnosis is just, hey, I'm putting you in hypnosis. The conscious is gone. I'm just talking into your subconscious. This is your wide awake. But because you have faith in me, or this one has faith in this patient, has faith in the doctor, whatever kind of doctor it is, this barrier is open. And when they say, I'm going to help you, by the way, here's the trip. 99% of doctors who do this, they don't even know they're doing it. They're doing it inadvertently. They think it's the needle, the adjustment, the. Or they think it is like the acupuncturist is like, I've been an acupuncturist for 20 years. I've helped a lot of people. It is the needles and the chiropractor's like, I've helped a lot of people. It's the adjustment, but it's not.
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B
Wow.
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And by the way, I'm not saying that physical exchanges are meaningless. You know, there, there's a, there's a validity to the chiropractic adjustment. There's a validity to the needle, there's a validity to the herb, but 90 plus percent of it is the image associated with it, whether they know they're tapping into that or not. Now, if someone knows how to do this on purpose, their results could be a thousand times better.
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B
Wow, that is a crazy concept. That blows my mind, honestly.
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A
And by the way, it's totally true. I've been doing it since 1993. Wow.
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B
So it's really just the words entering the subconscious.
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A
You got it.
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B
That is crazy. I've actually done that hypnosis a few times. I felt a lot better afterwards. I had some childhood trauma. Because you could use it in other.
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A
Use any way you want. Like there could be someone who. I'm just making this up. I'm not saying it applies to you. I'm just making this up. Let's say some kid was always beat by his dad or a stepdad. And then he just later on in life, you know, he has that thing with men, you know, and violence. And later on life he's just like talking to some guy and the guy's like, oh, the guy just, you know, I just making a point like, hey, this is really important. And he gets a little like he gets. Because that old concept gets stimulated of a man going like this to him, if his dad used to always like hit him and go like this. So yes. And they go to a hypnotist and they can change that concept totally about men or whatever it might be. And hypnosis can be very powerful for that. I love it.
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B
What are the most common issues you're seeing right now? There's a lot of infertility, a lot of health issues with people.
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A
Great question. So couple things. So I practice from the mid-90s until 2021, and I'll be a little more specific. And two, I started practicing in the mid-90s. Now if you go to most chiropractors offices and you walk around the waiting room and say, hey, are you here for? What are you here for? Why 99% of them are going to say they're there for neck and back pain. Of course, you know, once in a while a chiropractor is like, no, someone came with sinus problems or sinuses cleared up or someone came with digestive problem. But that's like once every year.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay. My office, if you asked all the people what they were there for. 99. Well, not 99. 90% of my patients were there for non neck and back pain. Wow. So of course the. Some people came for neck and back pain. I taken care of a lot of pro athletes and things like that, but most of my patients came because they had period cramps or they had terrible digestion, or they had a thyroid problem, or they had a liver problem or they had a digestive problem. That was, you know, what I kind of specialized in. So with that said, and also, by the way, just my hands and a flat chiropractic table and three minute adjustment. I wasn't giving herbs or vitamins.
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B
Three minutes.
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A
Three minutes. Just my hands and people coming from all over the world to heal from things that they otherwise weren't healing from. I'm talking people who have. They take a blood test, their thyroid is off, they take a blood test, their liver is off, they come for a couple months, everything's normal on a blood test. Or someone who has debilitating period, cramps, totally healed. Or someone who has terrible digestion. Every time they eat food, they get nauseous or whatever their problem is. And then a month or two later, they digest their food perfectly. Now, again, I do a physical technique which has validity. However, I know how the subconscious works. I know how to access it. Back to your question though. What, what I did was from the mid-90s until 2017, I was practicing, right? And one day in 2017 I was kind of like taking, I was kind of just thinking and I'm like, man, people are flying into me. Which we tab, me and my assistants tabulated. People had flown into me from 30 different cities around the world. 30 different cities. They're flying in from New York, Chicago, Guam, Hawaii, uk, Germany, South Daria, Malaysia, Thailand, flying in the same. Think about your average healer. They could be a chiropractor, an acupuncturist, a medical doctor. Where do their patients live within a 45 minute drive of their office. How many people are, I mean, maybe they have one patient who loves them, they drive two hours. But I have people flying into me from all over the world and many people driving four hours each way. I told you the session was three minutes. They're driving, they're driving eight hours in a day for three minute session. Wow. Because that's how great the healing was. So in 2017, I'm like, I'm just going to teach other doctors and healers this. And I opened up the Zone School of Healing. It's called Zone School of Healing. It's an online program. I also do teach, I also do teach in person events. And I mean anyone who, any doctor or healer wants to be a better doctor or healer can join. They can be a chiropractor, I'll make them better. They can be a acupuncturist, an energy worker, a physical, I mean massage therapist, a medical doctor, a osteopath. Anyone who's a doctor or healer who wants to be better at it can join my school. It's zchoolofhealing.com I just want to say this. If you think about it, this is really my message to let's say the chiropractors or any of those groups right now, anyone who's watching or listening, they may be very competent, they might be a great chiropractor, but they have to ask themselves at this moment how competent and how confident are they to take care of what I call musculoskeletal issues and non musculoskeletal issues. Now, most chiropractors are pretty confident and competent with musculoskeletal issues. You know, they're pretty good at neck and back pain. I'll tell them if they join my school, they'll be infinitely better. Now, most chiropractors are not that confident with non musculoskeletal stuff. If someone comes to them with IBS or endometriosis, which is a gynecological condition, they're not really confident. I'll help them be infinitely more competent and confident with that. So that's my message to the chiropractors and any doctor or healer. They go to zoneschoolofhealing.com they're welcome to join, come to a live event, whatever called live seminars, whatever they like. So that's, that's, it's a great offer.
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B
Because if they increase their skills, their customers will be their marketing vehicle.
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A
You got it. And it's funny you said that because I never claim, I never claim at all to my students. We have about 1500 doctors and healers worldwide as members and I've taught many more in the live seminars. I've never claimed join my school, you're going to make more money or join my school, your practice will triple. Only thing I'm saying is join my school, you'll be an infinitely more effective healer and doctor. But like you said, of course, if you're way better, you're going to make a lot more money. You're going to have a much bigger practice. So that just happens on a side note, but it does happen.
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B
Yeah. That's brilliant. You took that step because now you can impact the world rather than just your local office. Now you have 1500.
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A
You said located 1500. We have 1500 members worldwide and I think five continents. I just taught in Germany and England. Wow. And from mid-90s till 2021, I practiced. I had a practice from 2017 to 2021 was like an overlap. I had my school already and I had my practice. And from 2021 till now, I stopped practicing. Only because running zone school has become a full time work. Yeah, I run Zone school full time and I no longer officially practice. However, I did practice from the mid-90s till 2021.
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B
This is so needed right now. Especially with all the health issues too, man.
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A
You know, it's amazing, like when I think, and I'm not trying to dis medical doctors or dis medicine, I'm really not, because quite frankly, God forbid someone like crashes on their motorcycle, we better thank God there's medical doctors because I don't know how to save their life, but they do, right? And God forbid someone has a burst appendix, we better thank God we have medical doctors because who's going to save their life? Not me. I don't know what to do for that. I don't know. I don't know how to give stitches, you know, so I'm, I'm a fan of like medical doctors who do those things. So just let me preface what I'm about to say by saying that I have nothing against medical doctors at all. Matter of fact, many medical doctors join my program.
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B
Oh, nice.
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A
With that said, I will say this. When it comes to gynecological stuff, digestive stuff, glandular stuff, they're not really good. They're just not. They're just not good. If someone has ibs, which means, you know, irritable bowel syndrome, very bad digestion, what is the medical doctor going to do for them? Nothing, nothing, nothing. They're still going to have terrible digestion. They're going to take a bunch of medications which are not really going to fix anything and have a lot of side effects. They come to me or one of my students with ibs, they won't have it anymore. Give me a month or two. Wow. On six weeks or whatever, they should have perfect digestion for the most part. When I say for the most part, you know, maybe there's that one in a thousand exception, but for the most part, if someone has IBS or period cramps or asthma or a glandular problem, they will heal under.
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B
When I'm teaching, how much do you take note of people's emotions leading to like sickness and stuff like that?
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A
Great question, man. You ask. Well, no wonder, no wonder you're so successful. You know how to ask great questions and here's the answer. And I love, I love talking. You know, I get excited to talk about this. It's a two part answer because let's just say that someone was habitually angry. Let's take worry better. Yeah, I'll take worry. Let's say someone's mother was really worried all the time. So they were always in, like, this worry vibration. Their mother was, like, so worried that when they were a kid, they were just in this worry vibration of their mom. So they kind of took on and they're always worried, and now, like, they're getting insomnia and they have bad digestion and they, you know, whatever. So. Well, the worry is playing a big cause of their physical condition. Hmm. We can approach that in one of two ways. We could either say, okay, look, we know worry caused this. Let's at least address that a little bit on the emotional side and also address the physical remnants in your body. That's a way to do it. So we're take. We're addressing the emotional and the physical. Or we could say, listen, I mean, we know it was from worry, but nonetheless, you're still telling me that you can't sleep and you can't digest your food. I'm going to balance your body so well. You will be able to sleep and you will be able to digest your food, and you can just take it from that. You can give such a powerful physical image of health. It can supersede that emotional cause without even addressing it. And they can live a very happy. Well, a very healthy life. Hopefully happy, too, but a very healthy life. Or we can do both. We can. There's ways to address that worry and also the physical manifestation caused by it. But I would just say this. You didn't ask this exactly, but it is pertinent to say. Now the question is, what causes disease in the first place? Like, why does someone have period cramps? Why does someone have digestive problems? Why does someone have a weak immune system? Why is someone tired all the time, you know, or someone's neck hurt? Well, traditionally, doctors, medical doctors, and alternative doctors will break it down into three things. Physical stress, like someone crashed on their motorcycle. Emotional stress, like worry, anger, hate, jealousy, whatever, fear. And then there is chemical stress, like someone who just, like, eats garbage. They have, like, Burger King for breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day, you know, okay, so there's that. There's the physical, chemical and emotional stress. Physical chemo. Now, if you ask some doctors, well, what percent like, is it? You know what they might say? Well, it's about 33% each. Roughly about 33. But I would say, if anyone wants to know, 99% emotional. Now, don't get me wrong, if someone's, like, working on their roof and they fall off their roof, they're all jacked up. No, it wasn't emotional. They fell. I understand they fell off their roof. If someone goes to a restaurant and gets food poisoning. No, I understand they got poisoned. Like, I, I'm not putting those in the emotional category, but mostly, well, let's just say 90% plus so people don't freak out. 90% plus of what manifests in the body is from the emotions. In my opinion.
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B
That's crazy. You really got to be in tune.
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A
With your emotions, I would say. And yes, in tune with them and keep them as balanced as possible.
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B
That is nuts, because I would have imagined. Because a lot of there's that nature versus nurture debate. Genetics, like a lot of people think they get disease, inherited, Right?
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A
Here's a great man, you know, par for the course. Another great question. So here's the thing. Let's say a patient came into me, right? And this has happened many times. Like Dr. Pete. I'm kind, you know, they're kind of worried. Their grandfather had this condition, their dad had this condition. And they're like, man. I mean, it's like runs the family. I say this to them. I can't speak for your grandfather and your dad because they were not my patients, but you're my patient. And we're going to balance every cell in your body doing what I do. And when a body is balanced, it expresses health. So maybe if your grandfather and father came to me, we balanced their body, they wouldn't have got that condition. But I can assure you, when your body's balanced. Well, I, I may rephrase that. I could, I would say, I can tell you that. I can tell you that a balanced body will express health. And I intend to balance your body.
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B
Yeah. Cuz now you got me thinking. Like people are just worrying about their father had this disease and that is what is actually manifesting.
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A
You got it.
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B
Not the actual genetics.
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A
Exactly.
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B
Crazy.
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A
Exactly. Because they've adapted. Identify with that. You know, there's a statistic. I don't know where the statistic is or how hard it is to find that. Listen to this. Most medical doctors die of their specialty. Whoa. Because they've identified so closely mentally. And it eventually gets pushed down in their subconscious. Like we were talking before, all the ways that system or part of the body can break down. It does. And by the way, I mean, listen, I don't, I don't take any joy in saying what I'm about to say. I'm not like celebrating it or I, I don't have any glee associated with it. But it's true. Go find 10 gastroenterologists. They all have digestive problems. Go find 10 rheumatologists, they all have joint problems. Just add to the list all these medical doctors who specialize in XYZ have a problem in that system. You know, might be a couple exceptions. I mean, and I hope they are. I'm not, I'm not rooting against them. I want them to be healthy, but often they're not. And they have the exact condition that they spend all day treating. Dang.
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B
It's ironic, right? Yeah, that's just life, I guess.
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A
Well, life. Unless you can at least become more aware of the stuff. Like for example, let's just say not you, but let's just say someone else kept saying like they had a little problem with their left shoulder. And they kept pointing to it. They're like, oh, you know, this is my bad shoulder and my right shoulder is my good shoulder. Dude, every time they say their left shoulder is their bad shoulder. I know this might sound, I don't know if people understand this, but every time they say my shoulder, my left shoulder is my bad shoulder. The cells that make up that shoulder. What, what's in a shoulder? Ligaments, tendons, muscles, fascia, bone. All the cells that make up their shoulder are falling apart. As they speak, they're making their shoulder effed up. Wow. Now, you know, it's funny, you know, you know sometimes when someone has a problem and they think like, well, maybe there's kind of a complex solution to the problem because you know, if someone offers them a simple thing like oh, that's too simple, you know, telling you like if someone's wrist hurt, say their wrist was hurting and then they were like googling about their wrist hurts in this place and they're thinking about this dude. If they identify some so called condition on Google and it has six symptoms but they've only been having two so far, like, oh, they have carpal tunnel. They'll get all six within a day or two because they're identifying with that stuff. They should be like, this is my good wrist, this is my good wrist, and this is my good wrist. And tell the rest, you're going to feel better. You're going to feel better. It's that simple.
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B
Yeah, I see.
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A
Right. Seems like it seems childish, but that's how it works.
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B
It's easy to do that self diagnosis on WebMD. You just read those symptoms, you're like, I have this disease now.
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A
Totally. And here, here's one for you just to show. Let's, let's do this. Let's say someone had muscle pain. Just someone like one of Your friends, his muscles kind of hurting. So he goes to the doctor, and then you see your friends. You're like, what happened? You know, you went to the doctor. What? I know your muscles been hurting. Like, what happened? And he says, oh, the doctor said that he has fibromyalgia. So. And you're like, you don't even know. Is that. Is that, like, good because he found out what it is, or is that bad that he has it? But you're like, okay. And he's like, now he has fibromyalgia. So he starts reading books on fibromyalgia, Googling fibromyalgia again. He's only had three symptoms so far, but there's, let's say, 10 symptoms associated with it. He'll get all 10 within a week, the month. No, because he's identifying with those symptoms and expecting those symptoms. But here's the trip. So they. So then your friend comes into me. You're like, dude, go see Dr. Pete. I bet he fixes you up. So I said to him, like this. And listen how we break this down and remember, let's. Let's say he already has that stuck in his subconscious because he had rapport with that doctor. You know, the doctor's sitting there with a white coat, his name in scripts, Death scope around his neck, all his diplomas above his head. So he's a little. He's got some rapport with this guy. And the doctor's like, you have fibromyalgia. It's only going to get worse and worse, whatever he says. Then he comes to me, I go, let me ask you a question. Sean told me that when you went to the doctor, you went to him because you were having muscle pain, right? And he's like, yeah. And then the doctor told you you have fibromyalgia. And he's like, yeah. I'm like, dude, myalgia. Myo. Myo alga. My O in Latin means muscle. Algae. L, A, L, G, I A in Latin means pain. So you went to the doctor, you told him in English that you have muscle pain. And then he told you back in Latin that you have muscle pain. What is that? Who cares? And your friend might be like, yeah, who does care? But then I say, let's go even further. I said to your friend, don't you think people have probably had muscle pain for, like, thousands of years? You probably say, yeah, I guess over, you know, probably over thousands of years. When did the name of fibromyalgia, like, 40 years ago. Just like a Name. Who cares? Like, then I'd say, look, you have muscle pain, and you had muscle pain because your body was unbalanced somehow. Let's balance your body. Then your muscles will be totally healthy. And by the way, when your muscles are totally healthy, you're not gonna fibromyalgia anymore. You can have both. You can't have totally healthy muscles and fibromyalgia. It's like right now, the lights are on in here, but if it was dark, the light, you know, if the lights were off, it'd be off. Like, you can't have both. Like, either the lights are on or the lights are off. Like, you could pick which one you want to do.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Once we achieve perfect muscular health in your body, you can't also have fibromyalgia. You can't also have that. So listen, I'm not saying no one has fibromyalgia. Maybe someone does, you know, refer them to me. But we can balance your body so your muscles are totally healthy. And by the way, if someone's like, oh, Pete, that's a good speech, but I did it already. 500 times of people came to me with, quote, fibromyalgia. We fixed them up totally.
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B
That's why these medical diagnosis labels are dangerous, right?
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A
One of the most dangerous is. I shouldn't say one of the most dangerous. One of the ones that's almost, like, ridiculous is carpal tunnel syndrome. I can just tell you straight up. I have had. I don't know, I can't even count how many people have come to me, was were diagnosed with carpal tunnel, who was supposed to get wrist surgery. And I said, dude, don't get wrist surgery. We fixed them up totally in, like, two weeks.
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B
Crazy.
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A
But they have carpal means, you know, wrist. The whole thing is just utterly nonsensical. Now, by the way, like I said, God forbid someone's appendix burst. I am making fun of any MD Please go to the medical doctor, let them fix you. Because if someone came to me with the burst appendix, I would not know what to do.
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B
I'm always grateful for them. I had pneumonia. They saved me.
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A
Totally. So you heard what I said before, and I'm saying it again. Thank God for things like that. There's some emergency medicine. Thank God. But when it comes to carpal tunnel, leave it to me.
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B
When Gary Brecker came on and he said, diagnosis is a third leading cause of death, I was like, oh, my.
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A
God, here's one for you. Diagnosis. Back to Latin. I'm not a Latin expert. But diagnosis di. Diagnosis di means two in Latin, agnosis means to not know. You know, like you've heard of like an agnostic. They're like, I don't know if there's God or whatever. So diagnosis means two that don't know. That's what it means, two that don't know.
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B
Wow, that's crazy.
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A
And that's why you go, you go, the doctor gives you a diagnosis, let me get a second opinion. And you go, well, I don't agree with him or her.
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B
It's always a different opinion.
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A
These are opinions. They're guessing. They're called that. Two that do not know.
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B
Yeah. Third leading cause of death in America, a misdiagnosis.
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A
Well, I would add to that on the leading cause of, of death is accurate diagnosis. Because even if it's accurate, who cares? They're still, they're still identifying with the scarbage. Why don't you go get it fixed? Go to an acupuncturist, go to a chiropractor, go to one of my. And heal.
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B
Yeah, I love it. Doctor, where can people find you and learn from you, man?
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A
So I would say this, if anyone is interested, anyone who is a chiropractor, medical doctor, acupuncturist, massage therapist, Reiki, master energy healer, anyone who has clients or patients they like to learn from me, they can go to Zona School of Healing dot com. They can do my online program. It's the basic course itself is 60 hours. They can, you know, they can watch five minutes a day or half hour a day, but in a few months they'll be a master healer and. Or on that same website they can look where it says live seminars. I teach one every month somewhere in the world. And they can come join us for a live seminar. And I'll tell you this, my theme is results. Because I'll say this in conclusion. Anyone can sit in the chair and say whatever they want and they might be, you know, they might be have a lot of personal magnetism or they might be well spoken or very eloquent. And they're talking about a certain technique of healing or a certain philosophy of healing, but guess what trumps all that stuff? Results, results, results. So my, my theme is if someone has endometriosis, which again is an. As a gynecological condition, I'll take care of that. And so all my students will. Will someone else. I don't know. If someone has ibs, which is again a digestive condition, my students and I will take care of that. Whoever else is talking about their technique. Will they? So? So theories and techniques only go so far, but results trump everything. And I can tell you that the results from the kind of healing knowledge that I'm teaching is unparalleled. I love that.
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B
We'll link your stuff below. Thanks for coming on, Doctor.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Yep. Check them out, guys. I'll see you next time.