The Most Controversial Man on Instagram: 600M Views in 4 Months - Hayden McDougall | DSH #1646

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour – Hayden McDougall (“Woman Propaganda”)

Episode: The Most Controversial Man on Instagram: 600M Views in 4 Months – DSH #1646
Air Date: November 29, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Hayden McDougall, AKA “Woman Propaganda”

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Episode Overview

In this episode, host Sean Kelly sits down with Hayden McDougall, better known online as "Woman Propaganda," a provocative social commentator who has shot to viral fame, amassing 600 million views and nearly a million followers in just four months. The conversation is unapologetically controversial, spanning topics from race, gender, immigration, politics, and social dynamics to personal experiences in social media virality and culture war hot buttons. The tone is at turns combative, satirical, and highly self-assured, with both host and guest engaging in bold, sometimes inflammatory, and often taboo-challenging dialogue.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Leeching” Tax Argument and Demographic Change

• [00:00–00:27, 09:07–11:18]

  • Hayden opens with his claim that only whites and Asians pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits; all other groups (specifically Blacks and Hispanics) are described as “leeching.”
  • He forecasts that as the country gets “less white,” the country will get “poorer,” framing demographic change in economic and social terms.
  • The discussion is blunt and racially charged. Sean, who is half white, half Asian, jokes, “I’m in both groups. Let’s go.”

  “Just logically, everyone besides whites and Asians is leeching. So the less white the country gets, just the poorer it’s gonna get.” — Hayden, [00:00]

2. “Ratio Theory” and Dating Dynamics

• [01:11–02:48]

  • Hayden introduces his “ratio theory”: men’s dating success is better in places with more women than men.
  • He describes moving his team to South Carolina for the more favorable male:female ratio, contrasting it with “ruined” Southern California where, he claims, military bases throw off ratios and social scenes.
  • He asserts, “Just being in a city with more women is probably the best thing you can do [as a guy].”

  “Would you rather go to a party where there’s 30 women and 10 men or a party with 30 men and 10 women? ...It’s just like that, except it’s the state.” — Hayden, [02:22]

3. Performing Ideology to “Get Laid”

• [03:39–05:15]

  • Hayden discusses pretending to be liberal or feminist to appeal to women on dates, saying it was effective—until women uncovered his real views later.
  • He claims most men who espouse feminist views are simply trying to “get out of the friend zone.”

  “I’ve lied about not being conservative…you can just lie and it works…Just agree with them, basically.” — Hayden, [04:16]

4. Virality, Hate, and Security

• [05:38–08:27]

  • Hayden recounts going viral: 600 million views in four months, receiving both support and threats.
  • Most violent threats come from men, with Hayden noting a mix of backlash and support from Black men for his anti-feminist messaging.
  • He describes feeling safe due to South Carolina’s gun laws and his own precautions.
  • In-person, however, recognition is overwhelmingly positive, suggesting online hate is mostly “anonymous bots.”

  “I get death threats and violent threats of violence all the time…From dudes. Typically black dudes. A lot…love my videos too…” — Hayden, [05:57]

5. “Satire” vs. Sincerity and the High Value “Alpha Male” Persona

• [08:12–09:07]

  • Hayden explains that while some of his content is satirical, much is serious. He self-identifies as a “5’7 high value alpha male”—a phrase he uses both mockingly and earnestly.

  “There’s some satirical aspects, but for the most part I am serious. I’m a 5’7 high value alpha male, and I am literally 5–7.” — Hayden, [08:30]

6. Race, Crime, and Language Taboo

• [11:18–12:47]

  • Hayden expresses open preference for Asians (“my favorite minority”), and says Asian men are nonviolent compared to Black men, whom he describes as volatile.
  • He discusses going viral for his use of the N-word, distinguishing between “-a” and hard-“r” endings, and expressing strong support for “free speech.”

  “I went viral saying nigga a few times…I think it’s a very different vibe…with the ‘A’…I don’t think you should really get in trouble for saying any word.” — Hayden, [12:06–12:31]

7. COVID, Democracy, and Political Pessimism

• [13:38–16:02]

  • Hayden claims he recognized COVID as a “scam from day one,” detailing his pandemic skepticism, anti-mask stance, and belief that the populace—and especially children—were harmed by “propaganda.”
  • He vehemently opposes universal suffrage, proposes removing voting rights from most people (especially women), and instead supports a system based on merit, property ownership, or family status.

  “People talk about women shouldn’t vote, and I don’t think they should…I take it further…I think most people should not be able to vote.” — Hayden, [14:28]

8. Birth Rates, “Liberal Society,” and Cultural Decline

• [18:12–20:08]

  • The falling birth rate is cited as the ultimate proof that “liberals are wrong.”
  • Hayden cites Christianity as necessary for hope and reproduction, likens declining childbirth to “a form of suicide” (attributing the phrasing to Tucker Carlson).
  • He critiques the prior narrative of overpopulation, calling it a “scam.”

  “Not having kids is a form of suicide…you don’t believe in the future enough to bring children into the world.” — Hayden, [19:06]

9. Taxation, Government, and Disdain for Police

• [20:25–23:07]
  • Complains about high taxes and claims government funds don’t benefit average citizens.
  • Narrates personal experiences: being targeted by police for minor infractions (e.g., a speeding ticket), leading to a change from “back the blue” to anti-cop sentiment.
  • Suggests police focus on minor revenue-generating infractions instead of real crime.

10. Race Mixing, Genetic Decline, and Social Media Career

• [26:24–29:53]
  • Hayden discusses opposition to “white” race mixing, advocating for white preservation through selective procreation, and claims non-whites “don’t have a problem with breeding.”
  • Credits Professor Edward Dutton for science on IQ decline, tying it to demographics and eugenics.
  • Describes rapid social media rise, Hustlers University (Andrew Tate’s course), marketing work for right-wing media figures, and his strategy of “being as edgy as possible, basically.”

11. Incels, Dating Apps, the Modern Sexual Marketplace

• [38:24–40:57]
  • Claims most modern men are “incels,” citing unbalanced dating app ratios and lack of in-person social skills.
  • Argues the overuse of “incel” misses the real crisis: a lonely, disconnected, childless generation.

12. Sports, Anime, and Media Propaganda

• [40:57–43:05]

  • Suggests men watch sports as “simulation of power”—calls it “worse than watching anime.”
  • Both host and guest agree American media is more ideologically driven and “programming” than anime; Hayden dislikes depictions of strong women in combat roles in either genre.

  “Watching sports is worse than watching anime…You can quote me on that.” — Hayden, [41:55]

13. Israel, US Policy, and Christian Zionism

• [43:38–53:48]

  • Discusses the US-Israel relationship, criticizing US military and economic support.
  • States most of Congress is “bought out” by AIPAC or pro-Israel interests.
  • Bemoans prevalence of “Christian Zionism” in US churches, calling the notion that “God blesses those who bless Israel” outdated and wrong.

  “We’ve been blessing Israel for, like, 80 to 100 years now. Are you feeling blessed?” — Hayden, [51:39]

14. Government Control, Dictatorship, and Christianity

• [53:49–56:15]
  • Hayden declares democracy “failed,” proposes a Christian monarchy or dictatorship instead.
  • Argues that a dictatorship brings clearer accountability; ties good government to a return to Christian values.

15. Religion, Evil, and Meaning

• [56:19–60:53]

  • Both discuss the role of religion in personal and societal fulfillment.
  • Hayden links moral decline directly to secularism, stating evil is more apparent when the country is less Christian.
  • Advocates “bringing shame back” as a cultural corrective.

  “If you’re high IQ and you can understand that committing crime is not good, maybe you can afford to be atheist, but if you’re a dummy, you should just be a Christian.” — Hayden, [58:39]

16. Modern Churches, Christianity, and Hypocrisy

• [60:53–62:25]
  • Critiques the state of American Christianity, denouncing “mega churches,” feminist and “Zionist” pastors, and a lack of real spiritual discipline.
  • Suggests the Catholic Church as more authentic compared to non-denominational worship.

17. Personal Life and Social Media Handles

• [66:06–End]
  • Hayden and Sean discuss their ancestry, wedding/marriage costs, and segue back into follower counts and contact info.
  • Hayden encourages listeners to follow him across platforms.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On demographic shifts and tax “leeching”:
  “Everyone besides whites and Asians is leeching. So the less white the country gets, just the poorer it’s gonna get.” — Hayden, [00:00]

• On “Ratio Theory” and dating:
  “Move to the east coast, there’s way more girls, basically.” — Hayden, [02:22]

• On ideological pretense for sexual access:
  “Just lie on the first couple dates and a lot of times you get away with it. Tell them you don’t like Donald Trump…just agree with them.” — Hayden, [04:36]

• On the reality of virality:
  “I get death threats and violent threats…most of the time, I just ignore them. And I have guns.” — Hayden, [06:30]

• On race, crime, and preference:
  “I never feel threatened by…an Asian guy. Whereas if I’m around black people, I gotta be careful to not say the wrong thing.” — Hayden, [11:29]

• On COVID, democracy, and dictatorship:
  “After Covid, after seeing everyone go along with that scam for two years, I don’t trust the average person to vote…We need some sort of dictator to step in and clean things up.” — Hayden, [13:38–16:02]

• On birth rates and the “failure” of liberalism:
  “Not having kids is a form of suicide. Your bloodline’s gonna end with you.” — Hayden, [19:06]

• On police and the law:
  “I realized our government’s scamming us. We pay for a police force…and they don’t make the place safe. They just harass people on their way to work.” — Hayden, [21:15]

• On “white preservation” and race mixing:
  “I’m specifically against white people race mixing, because whites are the minority on the planet…If all the white people race mixed, we disappear.” — Hayden, [27:21]

• On US-Israel relations:
  “Our government’s bought out. And this is why I don’t believe in democracy anymore…basically you’re just not even allowed to get into the room unless you’re bought out beforehand.” — Hayden, [53:49]

• On Christianity and social decay:
  “We’ve never been less Christian and we’ve never been this degenerate and this evil.” — Hayden, [59:33]

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Noteworthy Timestamps for Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|------------------------| | Demographic/tax “leeching” intro | 00:00 – 00:27 | | “Ratio Theory” – Dating market in SC vs. California | 01:11 – 02:48 | | Lying about politics to date women | 03:39 – 05:15 | | Going viral, hate, and threats | 05:38 – 08:27 | | Satire vs. sincerity in social media | 08:12 – 09:07 | | On race, language, and free speech | 11:18 – 12:47 | | COVID skepticism & anti-democracy views | 13:38 – 16:02 | | Birth rate decline & “liberal society” critique | 18:12 – 20:08 | | High taxes & anti-police rhetoric | 20:25 – 23:07 | | Anti-race-mixing stance and IQ/genetics | 26:24 – 29:53 | | Social media journey & digital virality | 32:36 – 37:44 | | Incel/dating app loneliness & gender divide | 38:24 – 40:57 | | Sports, anime, and “propaganda” in media | 40:57 – 43:05 | | US-Israel, Christian Zionism critiques | 43:38 – 53:48 | | Advocacy for monarchy/dictatorship | 53:49 – 56:15 | | Christianity, atheism, and meaning | 56:19 – 60:53 | | Modern churches, hypocrisy, and social messaging | 60:53 – 62:25 | | Ancestry, marriage, sign-off, and social handles | 66:06 – End |

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Conclusion

This episode is an intense, polarizing exploration of hard-right, anti-mainstream discourse. Hayden McDougall (Woman Propaganda) is nothing if not direct, tackling taboos and social dogmas with both seriousness and a wink toward satire. Key themes include anti-feminism, racial anxieties, the decline of traditional norms, virality tactics on social media, and cultural pessimism. While it is decidedly not for the faint of heart or those seeking middle ground, it offers a clear window into a growing current of internet-fueled, uncensored “alt” commentary.

Where to find Hayden (“Woman Propaganda”):

• Instagram: @womanpropaganda
• All links: angrypatriotmedia.com
• Upcoming: The Woman Propaganda Show on censored.tv

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Note: This summary contains direct quotations and descriptions of controversial or offensive viewpoints expressed by the guest. It reflects the episode’s actual content and tone.

Transcript

[Woman Propaganda]

There's only two groups that pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. It's whites and Asians.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

That's it. Mexicans. It's a net negative. Blacks is a net negative. They're collecting more in benefits than they're paying in taxes. So just logically, all right, everyone else. Everyone besides whites and Asians is leeching. So the less white the country gets, just the poorer it's gonna get.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Because we're carrying everybody else.

[Podcast Host]

All right, guys, you might have seen this guy on the Internet. We got Hayden, AKA Woman propaganda, here in the building. From South Carolina.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Represent, man.

[Woman Propaganda]

Thank you. Yeah. I appreciate you having me. I'm not actually from South Carolina. Been lived there two years now. I love it. It's a poor. Kind of a poor state, or things are a lot cheaper there, but that's part of why I moved there. You can buy a really nice house for, like $350,000 there. It's one of the most affordable states. And, Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know. Abundance of women also play into that.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. So that's. There's something called ratio theory. Well, I call it ratio theory. I had a team. We were all working together remotely. I wanted us to all move in together. Part of how I convinced them to move in with me was I said, let's go to South Carolina. There's a ton of hot girls there. And there are in Charleston, South Carolina, the ratio of men to women, single women to single men, is three single women for every one single man. So as a dude dating in South Carolina, you. Your. The ratio is awesome. Whereas in San Diego, the ratio is the opposite. It's like three single men for every one single woman. So I'll see dudes who are hot hunks, chads in San Diego, and they go to church to find a girlfriend, and they can't even get a coffee date. And then in South Carolina, it's the opposite. A dude will be fat and he'll have a cute girlfriend. So my advice to some. Everyone talks about self improvement and all these things, but actually, just being in a city with more women is probably the best thing you can do.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

As a guy. Yeah. By far. I mean, way more than working out or having a job or anything. Just. Would you rather go to a party where there's 30 women and 10 men or a party where there's 30 men and 10 women? Right. It's just like that, except it's. It's the state. Move to the east coast. There's way more girls, basically.

[Podcast Host]

I wonder why that is. That's so interesting.

[Woman Propaganda]

Right? Yeah, the. I've thought about that. I think Southern California is ruined because all the military bases bring in all these single men and no women. We have Camp Pendleton, Miramar. There's a ton of military in San Diego. So all these men come in and just wreck the ratio. If you go out to the bars in san Diego, it's 90% dudes everywhere you go and a lot of Marines.

[Podcast Host]

Sounds awful.

[Woman Propaganda]

It's horrible. If you want to party, do not go to Southern California. That song California knows how to party. Tupac. It's not true. It's the opposite. The east coast party's way harder. And dudes. Dudes get laid on the east coast way more often than on the West Coast.

[Podcast Host]

So do you find more feminists on the east coast or the West Coast?

[Woman Propaganda]

That's a good question. Probably the East Coast.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, because just because there's more women and women are more likely to be feminists and liberals. There's not. I don't even think men are feminists if they're. If they are, they're just trying to get laid. Typically, I think. I don't think a guy is genuinely a feminist. I.

[Podcast Host]

They're trying to get out of the friend zone, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah. They're trying to impress the liberal girls. Sometimes it works. I've lied on dates in the past. I've. I've been there.

[Podcast Host]

You've lied about being a feminist.

[Woman Propaganda]

I've just lied about not being conservative or. Yeah, I'll just lie about my. I don't do that anymore. But when I was younger, for sure, yeah. I'd go on hinge dates with a girl and she's a liberal, and I pretended that I was also a liberal. Yeah, totally. And it works. You can just lie and it works.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Oh, I did that all the time. It's amazing.

[Podcast Host]

Did they ever catch you or.

[Woman Propaganda]

No, Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes they'd catch me, but it would. Typically, it'd be too late by the time they caught me. So. Yeah, but if you just lie on the first couple dates and then a lot of times you get away with it. Tell them you don't like Donald Trump. I mean, tell them. Yeah, there's just agree with them, basically.

[Podcast Host]

They probably love hearing that. Not liking Trump.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah. You just say, trump's a racist. Trump's a piece of. And then you're in.

[Podcast Host]

They hit him with the sexism card, the racism card.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. And then by the time they find out the truth. It's. It's usually too late. Or I've had girls find my social media later and be like, oh, wow, that guy's actually. He's not what he said he was what he told me.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, because you're public facing now. Four months ago, you really put your face out there, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yes. Yeah, I started going hard four months ago. I think I have like 600 million views in the last four months on my videos. I get death threats and violent threats of violence all the time.

[Podcast Host]

From woman or.

[Woman Propaganda]

No, from dudes. Typically black dudes. A lot of black dudes love my videos too, though, because I'm. I go after women. I. On women and minorities, but the black dudes come because they love it when I go after the women and then they see my more racist content and then some of them are down for it and think it's funny, and then some get offended. But a lot of black dudes love my videos, though. I got a lot. A lot of black supporters. I appreciate it.

[Podcast Host]

Any of the death threats actually scare you or you just delete them right away?

[Woman Propaganda]

No, I just ignore them. And I have guns and I live in South Carolina. If you show up to my house, I'm allowed to shoot you. In South Carolina, they have strong laws.

[Podcast Host]

About that, like inside your house or they got to be on the driveway type stuff. I know each state is different.

[Woman Propaganda]

I'm not sure, but I think maybe just if they're on your driveway, you're allowed to shoot them. I don't quote me on that. I'd have to look that up. I don't live in a house. I'm in a apartment complex. So they'd have to get through the security at the front. And then if they're in my building, I mean, then I think I'm for sure. Shoot them.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because someone pulled up to Fuentes, his house, Remember that?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that guy.

[Podcast Host]

Girl, right? Oh, no, it was a guy. Yeah. There was two times.

[Woman Propaganda]

It was. Oh, yeah. Oh, there was the woman who he pepper sprayed in the face. And then there was another guy that showed up with a gun.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Woman Propaganda]

And then that guy fled and then killed someone's dog and then killed himself.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Yeah. Tough way to go. I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Yeah. But I haven't. I don't know. I haven't had that problem yet.

[Podcast Host]

You're new. Give us some time.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, it could happen. I've been recognized a few times. I. I went out the other night And I got recognized 12 different times in Charleston, South Carolina, and everyone liked me. People wanted pictures. It was all positive feedback. I haven't met a hater in person, which I think is typical.

[Podcast Host]

A lot of them are on Twitter and a lot of them are bots, honestly.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, the haters are bots?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they're like a non accounts. They're bots or whatever.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, they're definitely anonymous most of the time. Yeah. But I don't mind. I mean what I say. I don't. Whether you like me or hate me, I. I just mean I. For the. Unless I'm just straight up trolling. I usually mean what I say because.

[Podcast Host]

I know you get asked a lot if your content is, like, serious.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yes. Yeah. And the answer is it's kind of. There's some satirical aspects, but for the most part, I am serious. I'm a 57 high value alpha male, and I am literally 5 7. But calling yourself an alpha male is a little bit silly. And then. And then sometimes I'm trolling. But for the most part, I'm serious. Women are out of control and our country's being flooded by immigrants and it's. The country's gonna become minority white in. Pretty soon. I think in another 10 years, the country's gonna be less than 50 white.

[Podcast Host]

I saw that stuff. Which is pretty crazy, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Super crazy. And people think that's not a problem. People. A lot of people don't see any issue with that. But the country's gonna get crappier and crappier the less white it gets. Something I say all the time is if you look at the chart of who it could pull up the graph. But who pays taxes and then who receives benefits? There's only two groups that pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. It's whites and Asians. Wow, that's it. Mexicans. It's a net negative. Blacks is a net negative. They're collecting more in benefits than they're paying in taxes. So just logically, all right, Ev. Everyone else, everyone besides whites and Asians is leeching. So the less white the country gets.

[Podcast Host]

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[Woman Propaganda]

Just the poorer it's gonna get. Yeah, because we're carrying everybody else and you're half white, half Asian, right?

[Podcast Host]

I was just gonna say that. Let's go.

[Woman Propaganda]

Killing it. Killing it.

[Podcast Host]

I'm in both groups. Let's go. I consider Asian people basically white at this point.

[Woman Propaganda]

I mean, in America, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, me too. That's. My favorite minority is Asians by far.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I can't say an Asian guy screwed me over, to be honest. No.

[Woman Propaganda]

And they're not out committing crime. They're not violent. I never feel threatened by a. I'm not worried about a violent outburst from an Asian guy. Whereas if I'm around black people, I gotta be careful to not say the wrong thing. I don't know. I. I know lots of great black people, but. But a lot of them are. I don't. They'll punch you in the face if you say the wrong thing around them.

[Podcast Host]

So you say the N word? Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. I went viral saying nigga a few times. I don't know if we want to keep that in or not, but I haven't said it on camera with the.

[Podcast Host]

Hard R. Fuentes did it.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, he did? Yeah. He's done it a few times, I think.

[Podcast Host]

Does it?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

But he's half black. He.

[Woman Propaganda]

He's half black, so he. He kind of gets a pass. I'll probably do it eventually, but I don't. I don't want to do it yet. I'm. I'm waiting for the right moment to do it, but I. I was blew up just saying it with the A. Just saying nigga.

[Podcast Host]

Do you think with the A it should be controversial to say it?

[Woman Propaganda]

No, no. Because I think it's a very different vibe. Well, I'm a. I don't think it should be. I. I don't think you should really get in trouble for saying any word but the A for sure. And I. Black People say it all the time.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

With the A. And it's fine. So I don't know. I, I, I think it's a totally different vibe. I think it's way less scary with the A.

[Podcast Host]

So you're big on free speech?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yes. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I think it's, it's like sacred that free speech is one of the, that's what this country was built on. And it's crazy to me that people get canceled for saying things. That's the whole point. I think a democracy without free speech is really just a joke. I think democracy in general is kind of a joke at this point. After Covid, I don't believe in democracy anymore.

[Podcast Host]

That was a scary time.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, well, I think the most I knew Covid was a scam day one.

[Podcast Host]

Day one.

[Woman Propaganda]

Day one. I knew it was a scam because I didn't, I would have seen someone puking their guts out. I just, I think I would have just seen something more dramatic. I was looking around, I didn't see a pandemic. The only reason it felt like a pandemic is because people started wearing those masks. I think that's the reason it went on for two years. But I didn't realize how bad, I didn't realize how dumb the average person was. I didn't realize that most people were sheep like that. And I'm not judging, I'm not trying to be a hater. I love people. But after Covid, after seeing everyone go along with that scam for two years, if Covid went on for one month and then everyone was like, okay, I think we're fine, let's go back to work then, whatever. Not a big deal. But it went on for, in a lot of places. Two years.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

And the part that no one talks about much anymore is the child abuse that went on. Little kids were wearing masks at school all day, every day for two years straight. And as a little kid, not having to wear a mask all day, not being able to see your friends faces, I know the people were talking about kids were getting autism or other learning disabilities because, you know, six years old wearing a mask and you can't, 90% of communication is non verbal, something like that. You can't see each other's face, that's huge. And when you're in those very developmental years, when you're young, that's important. So that child abuse went on for two years. The teachers allowed it, the parents allowed it. Everyone kind of just turned the other cheek and said, oh, it's a pandemic So I don't know. After seeing the child abuse, after seeing the scam that everyone just went along with for two years, I'm like, yeah, I don't trust the average person to vote. People talk about women shouldn't vote, and I don't think they should. I'm, I'm, I'm pro repealing the 19th amendment, but I take it further than that. I think most people should not be able to vote. I think that's crazy. Every four years, we're going to, like, change the whole system based on just what the average person decided to vote for. And the average person falls for really stupid propaganda. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm not quite sure what I believe. I think for a period of time, we didn't. We need some sort of dictator to step in and clean things up and make things efficient again. But I certainly. I think voting is a joke.

[Podcast Host]

Do you think it should be based off iq, based off salary? What would you propose for a new system for voting?

[Woman Propaganda]

I think, yeah, there needs to be some sort of competency test. It doesn't necessarily have to be iq, but, yeah, you need to have some sort of skin in the game, maybe own property, maybe have a family and children. Yeah, I think having a family is important. You're invested in the future. You have children that. You want your children to have a country when they're older. So you have all these liberal feminists with no children who are all out of eggs, and they get out and vote. And I'm like, why should you even vote at all? You have no stake in the future. You don't care what happens to this country. They're voting for open borders. These women complain. I feel unsafe walking home alone at night. But then they vote for the open borders that invite. No one talks about that. You see, the feminists complain about men. Oh, it's men. It's men making me feel unsafe on the subway. And I'm like, what kind of men? It's not a white guy. It's not an Asian guy. It's like a Somali who got here last week, you know, who has no ties to this country and doesn't care what happens to anyone around him. So, yeah, I don't know. I think, yeah, things are a mess and people are brainwashed and everyone's just getting their own biases confirmed by their. Whatever influencers they follow. So that's another reason I say something I say all the time is, the debate is over. I think Andrew Tate, fresh and fit the whatever I Think all those dating shows, I think the debate on everything has kind of been settled after those. And you. At this point, I think people know what they believe. And I think, I think the feminists and the liberals are just wrong. I think the. And Nick Fuentes talks has talked about this, but I think the evidence that liberals are wrong the. Is that the birth rate is declining and no one's having kids.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

And then even the people that come here, the people who come from, like someone will move here from India, where in India they might have had 12 kids, and then they come here and their birth rate goes down. When they come here, they, in India they might have had 12 kids. They move here, they have four kids, and then of their four kids have no kids or they have one kid. So I think that right there proves it's not just a problem with white people, it's a problem specifically with this country. Even non whites and people that come from places with high birth rates, their birth rate goes down when they get here. So, yeah, we have a liberal society, a liberal atheist, secular society. And I think we need a society that's Christian and promotes having children and believing in the future. Not having kids is a form of suicide.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, Tucker Carlson said that. But it's true. I believe that. Yeah, it's a form of suicide. You're not, you don't believe in the future enough to bring children into the world. I totally think that's a form of committing suicide. Your bloodline's gonna end with you. You don't care for things to go on after this. So a society not having kids, how can that go on? How can that live? The craziest switch up ever was I was told my whole entire life by the education system, the world's overpopulated, don't have kids, don't worry about having kids. And now that I'm older, I'm told, oh, we need to flood the country with a bunch of immigrants because, because you guys aren't having enough kids. It's like, hey, you told me my whole life not to have kids, and now I have to live in a minority white country.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy.

[Woman Propaganda]

And yeah, it was a, it was a scam. It was a total scam for them to tell us not to have kids.

[Podcast Host]

So I think another big issue with that is people just can't afford having kids right now, to be honest. Like, it's, it's really tough to be able to afford that.

[Woman Propaganda]

Absolutely. And that's a. Yeah. And that's a white pill kind of. I think a Lot of people do want to have kids and just can't afford it. Absolutely. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Our.

[Woman Propaganda]

Our taxes are insane. The government spends the money on everyone but us. Can't get a pothole fixed, but we're paying for all these wars and Israel and Ukraine and it's absolutely insane. Yeah. If you make over a certain amount of money, half of your money goes to taxes.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy.

[Woman Propaganda]

We don't get any of that back.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. If you're in Cali, you're paying 55, 56% in taxes.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. No, it's. It's insane. Meaning. Yeah, 55%. So like half the days you go to work, you're working to pay taxes for a government that hates you and just robs you. They don't spend any of the money on us, man. I don't even. I don't like cops anymore. I used to be a black back. The blue guy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. What happened?

[Woman Propaganda]

A few things, but for the most part, it's. I realized our government's scamming us. We pay for a police force and they don't. It's like we live in a police state and it's still not safe. The cops are not focusing on the crime there. I could point you to the neighborhood where all the crime's happening. Like, go hang out there. Go patrol that area. But that's not what they do. They're out here handing speeding tickets out to middle class normal people on their way to work. I got a $750 speeding ticket in Georgia.

[Podcast Host]

How fast were you going?

[Woman Propaganda]

85. I was going 85 and the speed limit was 75.

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, the ticket costs after. Well, I got a lawyer and basically it ended up costing me $750 in Georgia and that. And that was the moment I decided I did not like cops anymore. This obese female cop gave me this huge ticket and I'm like, I pay taxes for you to have a job and then you don't make the place safe. You just like harass people on their way to work. Handing out tickets to. To the only people that would even pay a ticket also is the other thing.

[Podcast Host]

Like, if you're a cop, you should be able to pass a physical test or something.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, that too. Fat cops. What's up with that?

[Podcast Host]

I mean, that's not cool. What if you have to get in a chase or something? You know, break in somewhere.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, it's. No, these cops and the cops just aren't doing their jobs. They're avoiding doing their job and they're just Targeting people who they can leech more money off of. So I'd rather just not have cops at all. Really?

[Podcast Host]

That's a hot take.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Well, for the most part, though, yeah. Kind of.

[Podcast Host]

Don't you think the crime would go up without cops there?

[Woman Propaganda]

But the cops aren't stopping the crime. I mean, I could. Yeah. I don't know. It's hard to. Don't quote me on that. Maybe, maybe we need some cops. But I do not appreciate cops handing out speeding tickets. That's where I have a problem. It's like, focus on the actual stuff. There's actual real crime happening, but. And the cops are not focused on that. And in their defense, they get in trouble if they go after real crime.

[Podcast Host]

That's true.

[Woman Propaganda]

So like a cop is less likely to shoot a black guy because they don't want to end up like Derek Chauvin. So the cops are scared to. In cops defense, they're scared to go after the real crime, so they go after fake crime like speeding.

[Podcast Host]

I. I have a lot of cops on the show and they're actually really scared because everyone records everything now.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So they. They literally are on edge all day.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. It's a bad job. I feel. I do feel for them. That job sucks. I wouldn't tell my friend to become a cop.

[Podcast Host]

Not these days.

[Woman Propaganda]

Not. No, not anymore. You're just kind of. You're basically waiting around. It's a high stress job and you just want to be able to retire and get your pension. That's all being a cop is. It's trying to not lose your job so you can get your pension. That's all they're doing.

[Podcast Host]

Pretty much.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. No, it sucks. I. Yeah. And at any point you could just end up in prison for life because you went viral doing something that looked bad and the media dogpiles on you and then it's just over.

[Podcast Host]

George Floyd, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

The George Floyd. And we all know Derek Chauvin still in prison.

[Podcast Host]

He is, I think. Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

People were saying that Trump should let him get out.

[Podcast Host]

All four of them went, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

I. Oh, I don't know. Because there was four cops. I think there were. Yeah. One. I don't know the story on the other guys. I think Chauvin's still in prison and I think Trump should release him. But yeah, that. Everyone knows it was a scam at this point. The George droid memes the fentanyl. Everybody knows that that guy died of a fentanyl overdose. So if everyone knows that now, why is Derek Chauvin still In prison. Like, let that guy. I mean, we knew it. I knew it back then too. But just for the optics, they had to put him in prison.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Because BLM was gonna burn down Minneapolis if they didn't put Derek Chauvin in prison.

[Podcast Host]

You're good at seeing through this shit, man. I'm impressed.

[Woman Propaganda]

Thank you. Thanks. Yeah, I've been following this stuff for a while. Everything's fake and gay, basically. Yeah. I don't know. Everything you're told on the news is fake. Everyone has an agenda. I. I describe myself as a propagandist, but. But I believe that all media is propaganda. Every. Every time you're watching something on your phone or on the tv, ask yourself, what does this person want me to believe? What is the message here? Because everyone has an agenda, and the entertainment isn't there just to entertain you. There's. There's typically another message. It could be a lot of things. Trying to normalize something, trying to promote something. But, yeah, since you brought up the.

[Podcast Host]

Fake and gay, I got to ask your opinion. On the Candace Fuentes interview. When they were talking about, you know, Nick was asked about would you have kids with a black woman or something like that? And he said, no. Did you see that?

[Woman Propaganda]

I didn't see that part, but I agree with Nick. I don't think race mixing. And no offense, I know you're mixed race, but I. I think for the most part, mix race mixing is wrong. Specifically. I'm specifically against white people race mixing because whites are the minority on the planet. 7% of the world population is white. 100 years ago, it was like 30%. And if all the white people race mixed, we disappear. So we need enough white people to not race mix. And yeah, I want to. I want there to be white people that exist, you know? Sorry, what was the question?

[Podcast Host]

Like, are you opposed to race mixing? I guess.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, yeah. Basic, basically.

[Podcast Host]

And why?

[Woman Propaganda]

I. So I'm opposed to white people race. If a black and brown person race mixed, whatever. There's so many. Those people don't really have a problem with repopulating. Those people don't have a problem with breeding white people just don't have a lot of kids anymore. And then when white people race mix, I'm like, well, that was pointless. You didn't. You didn't make more white babies, bro. So I. I'm specifically against white people race mixing because I want there to be more white people, and I want to have a white country with people that look like me and act like me and think like me. And skin color is, like, one of the least important things when it comes to the differences between the races. 80% of the genome is in your brain or your brain. So I said that wrong. But, like, what I mean is, the different races have different brains.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Black people and white people. Our brains work differently. And that's why. Much more so than skin color. That's the reason white people get along better with other white people.

[Podcast Host]

I actually didn't know that.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You should consider having Professor Edward Dutton on the Jolly Heretic. Guy's a genius. He has one of the best YouTube channels out there. The YouTube channel is called the Jolly Heretic. But he talks about genetics. He talks about the rise and fall of IQ over time. Fascinating. I think this guy should be, like, talking to Congress. But basically, our IQ has been plummeting since the Industrial Revolution because poor people. After the Industrial Revolution, we had a surplus of food. Poor people had as much surviving offspring as the rich people. So all of a sudden, poor people had as many kids as rich people. And then that. That's when our IQ started to plummet. And now we're in Idiocracy. Do you know that movie?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's a good movie.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, well, we're in it now. That movie takes place 400 years in the future. But the part they got wrong is that it's actually happening now, where our IQ has never been this low.

[Podcast Host]

What is it at right now, the average?

[Woman Propaganda]

I don't know, but I know it's been going down since, like, the 1860s. Yeah, it's been on the decline for a long time.

[Podcast Host]

And you think with all this technology, we'd be smarter?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. No, no, we're getting dumber. Life's gotten easier. And rich. The smarter people are not having as many kids. And then poor people are having the most kids. People on welfare, people on Section 8 housing are having. It's crazy because some people say, I can't afford kids, but then the poorest people have the most kids.

[Podcast Host]

I think that's kind of selfish, honestly.

[Woman Propaganda]

Being poor and having a lot of kids.

[Podcast Host]

Well, like, if you can't afford it and you knowingly have a kid.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, it's nuts. Well, they're getting benefits. I don't even know how it's possible, how they do it, though. They're getting paid for it. There are. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a thing. Yeah, that's. You get food stamps or. And I don't know, it might be changing now, but for a long time. Yeah, you'd get Benefits and food stamps if you were poor and had kids.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[Woman Propaganda]

So there was even a. They were even incentivizing people to have kids if they were poor. But it's crazy because they're incentivizing dysgenics and the like, the dumbest people, the people that should not be having kids are having the most kids and the people that should be having kids are not having kids. So, yeah, society, it's going to get to a point where we're not even smart enough to uphold the infrastructure we currently have. It's happens now where there's less innovations. Less. There's going to be less and less new innovations because we have less and less geniuses. And then it's going to get to a point eventually where we just aren't even smart enough to uphold the infrastructure we have already. And yeah, it's. We're heading towards another dark age. It's going to get worse. It's going to get worse for a long time. I don't know. It's going to get worse until our IQ starts going up again, which isn't going to happen until smart people start having more kids.

[Podcast Host]

Elon Musk.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, he talks about this a lot. He. Yeah, yeah, he's. No, he's totally right smart. We need the high IQ people to have more kids.

[Podcast Host]

Him and Tate are going pretty hard. I think they got over 10 each.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, they both. Oh. I think Tate has like 50 kids.

[Podcast Host]

50.

[Woman Propaganda]

I thought I heard him say that before. He's got a bunch of different baby moms and he's just sends him money and he's raising kids in all these different countries, I guess 50s.

[Podcast Host]

Impressive.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's the goal. I'm probably not going to hit 50, but I'd be stoked if I had like five.

[Podcast Host]

But you're more nuclear, right? You want to have it with one woman?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, I want to ideally just have it with one woman. I'm not a. Tate's half black, so he can do the. He can do the baby mom, multiple baby moms thing.

[Podcast Host]

I know your intro to social media was through Hustlers University, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yes. I'm a Hustlers University graduate. Shout out. Andrew and Tristan Tate. I got into. When they first blew up, I joined Hustlers University. That's how I got into social media marketing. I made 450 Andrew Tate edits. Got like 100 million views doing that. And then after that, I felt like I understood how to go viral. I knew how to grow a social media account on TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram. And then I just started my own accounts, started running meme pages. I worked for Alex Stein for a period of time.

[Podcast Host]

Pimp on a blimp.

[Woman Propaganda]

Pimp on a blimp. Great guy. I got, like, in one month, I got 50 million views for Alex Stein. Yeah, I, I, I had a bunch of videos blew up that I made for him. I just took old videos he had and remade them into edits under 60 seconds long. And then he was trying to get me a job at Blaze TV. He put me in charge of running his YouTube channel, and I was doing that for a few weeks, and then I posted a video that got a strike on his YouTube channel. So I got his YouTube channel demonetized, which was like, the number one thing you're not supposed to do if you're running someone's YouTube channel.

[Podcast Host]

What was the video about? Like, vaccines or.

[Woman Propaganda]

It was. It was him and Alex Jones saying. No, it was about transgenders targeting autistic kids, trying to make autistic kids become trans.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that'll do it.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. So that. But it's funny, because now you could say that on YouTube.

[Podcast Host]

Now you can. Yeah. Now you could talk about vaccines, too, and election fraud and all that. Two years ago, this was, what, two, three years ago when it happened? Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Oh, they totally. They totally opened up the floodgates. It's amazing. You can, for the most part, say what you want. Now, two, three years ago, you could not. So I got this strike on his YouTube channel that. And I caused, like, a whole entire emergency meeting at Blaze tv. They were all talking about me.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[Woman Propaganda]

I woke up to 23 missed calls from Alex Stein, and it was over. And he fired. And I was fired after that, so. And then. But then we ended up making up. And then Alex actually got me an interview with Tucker Carlson's manager.

[Podcast Host]

Nice.

[Woman Propaganda]

And I bombed the interview and did not get the job. Working for Tucker Carlson, were you nervous or what happened? No, I thought it went well. And then the guy said, oh, yeah, Alex Stein highly recommended you. And I'm just autistic and I'm too honest. And I, I said, oh, I'm glad Alex Stein recommended me. Yeah, he was mad at me. A few weeks ago, he fired me, but we're buddies again. And then this guy was like, Tucker's manager was like, oh, why'd he fire you? And then that's when I was like, oh, I fucked up. I was like, I got a strike on his YouTube channel, and I'm incompetent And it was over after that. So I did not get the job with Tucker Carlson, despite Alex Stein giving me a thumbs up. I appreciate you, Alex, but I. I blew that interview. It ended up all working out, though. I got. And then after that, I reached out to Gavin McInnes. And I've been working for Gavin since then.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, nice.

[Woman Propaganda]

I'm the head of marketing at censored TV, which is. Gavin McInnes is behind the paywall site. We got Gavin McInnes, Anthony Kumia, who used to do Opie and Anthony, if you've heard of them. And though Gavin was banned everywhere for being the founder of the Proud Boys, which is. It's. It's like a fraternal drinking club for men, basically. But in Canada, they're categorized as a terrorist group.

[Podcast Host]

Holy.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, I think they're literally considered a terrorist group in Canada, which is insane because it's. It's just a men's club. But Gavin was banned from everywhere and now he's allowed back on YouTube. You can follow Compound Censored on YouTube. Gavin McInnes is posting there. But I. Yeah, so I work for Gavin now. I told. Yeah, I hit up Gavin and I said, hey, Gavin, I used to work for Alex Stein. I have a billion views. I'm really good at this. Give me a job. He hired me immediately. Been working with them ever since. And that I got a show that I'm going to do for Censored TV that's coming out in a few weeks, Episode one, the Woman Propaganda Show. And yeah, and then I. Then I just been. I've had a few other clients. I have a whole other business. And then about four months ago, I started making my own content.

[Podcast Host]

Nice.

[Woman Propaganda]

And that's been blowing up. So that was almost at a million subs followers on Instagram in four months. In four months, I'm at 700,000 followers. Holy crap. In four months. Yeah. Yeah. Blew up quick. I'm just being as edgy as I possibly can, basically.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Without getting banned. And people are liking it.

[Podcast Host]

Let's go.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, people want it. It's a new age. People are sick of the snowflakes. People are sick of everything. Everyone being offended. And people want, like the most offensive stuff. Even if they don't agree with me on everything, they still like the videos. Yeah, I think they just appreciate that somebody's being offensive like that. Like, if this guy's allowed to say that, then shit, I'm allowed to say. I should be allowed to say what I want to say. And so I get a lot of. I get probably 50 DMs a day on Instagram and it's 95% positive.

[Podcast Host]

That's good.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. And then 5% threats. And then some people call me an incel. And. But are you Technically not. I have participate. I have unfortunately participated in premarital sex, so I'm not an incel, But I. I kind of agree with incels on a lot of things, though. I think the incels are right about a lot of things. I think incels understand reality on a lot of things. I also think most men are incels today. If you. My definition of an incel is a guy who hasn't been laid in the last year, and by that definition, probably over half of men are incels.

[Podcast Host]

Damn. You think it's over 50%?

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of guys have checked out and aren't even trying, but the dating market's brutal. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I. Oh, I think it's well over 50%. Um, I mean, the people know about the dating apps now where, like, a guy gets one match a week and a girl gets 5,000 matches, you know, 24 hours after downloading the app.

[Podcast Host]

I think the male to female ratio on apps is 9 to 1 or something like that.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Yeah. And people don't know how to meet in person anymore, so the ratio's terrible on the apps. And then people don't. And. But besides the apps, people don't even know how to meet in person. So unless you're meeting through a friend or unless you have some social media clout, I. I don't even know how you meet a person anymore. Yeah, it's tough. It's really bad day. I. Yeah, it's a problem. I. I think this is also contributing to the declining birth rate.

[Podcast Host]

100%.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. So. But yeah, it's. People throw around the word incel a lot, but it's actually is like a real problem. Like, no one's having kids. The met. The women hate the men. The men hate the women. It's bad.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's bad. I mean, red pill versus feminism. It pops up on my feet every day, you know?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, it's. That conversation is kind of done. I think everything on this subject that can be said has already been said, but it's still an issue. The women are. Most women are not attracted to most men, and I don't know. And then a lot of men are just checked out and not trying. A lot of men are watching sports. I am totally against watching sports.

[Podcast Host]

I haven't Watched a game in years.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Good. It's, it's not even interesting, right? Not really. These are, these are grown. I think UFC is an exception. Black. But like football, you're, you're watching grown men play a child's game and you're cheering. Like, the outcome of this game means anything. Like, oh, that's my team. If they win, that means something. It's just a psyop. It's a joke. A lot of guys have no power in their own life, and I don't know, they, they, they, they see a football team as, like, representing themselves and, oh, if my team wins, that means something for me. It's really sad. It's really pathetic. I say that watching sports is worse than watching anime. Wow. Yeah. I take it that far. You can quote me on that.

[Podcast Host]

I love anime.

[Woman Propaganda]

I, I used to love it. I, I, I was totally against it. And then I watched Attack on Titan and I liked Attack on Titan, only anime I've ever gotten into. But Attack on Titan was really good.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, at least you're not being programmed when you watch anime versus American cartoons.

[Woman Propaganda]

You think so? What do you mean by that?

[Podcast Host]

There's not. Just, like, they're not promoting the LGBTQ stuff. I mean, I used to watch 10 years ago, so I don't know if.

[Woman Propaganda]

It'S changed, but there's still some. I like to Attack on Titan, but they still have, like, these badass women fighting on the front lines. Like, like in battle. Yeah. Masa, I didn't watch that one.

[Podcast Host]

I've seen clips, but.

[Woman Propaganda]

Okay. You didn't. You haven't watched? Oh, I watched the full four seasons.

[Podcast Host]

Damn.

[Woman Propaganda]

I watched all. And I don't ever watch any shows, but I watched all of Attack on Titan and it's. Yeah, it's not super woke, but they just, they have like. I don't like seeing women beat up men and women be badasses. It's, it's just not I. To enjoy a movie. I can, like, stop thinking about that for a second. But, yeah, that's like, woke to me.

[Podcast Host]

You see a lot of that in Hollywood, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, it's the woman superheroes that just the women beating up men. I just, I can't do it. That's so, that's so gay. That's, that's not reality. That doesn't ha. Go to Ukraine right now. How many women are fighting on the front lines in Ukraine or Russia? Zero. It's, it's not a thing. Women don't fight in wars, so I don't know why? They keep putting it in movies. It ruins the movie. There's so many movies that could have been great, and they just ruin it with some feminist bullshit. I don't. I don't get it.

[Podcast Host]

Are you making a lot of clips about the wars right now? The Israel one?

[Woman Propaganda]

A little bit. I talk about it a little bit. I don't go. When talking about Israel and Jews, I. I'm a little sly. I'm a little bit clever.

[Podcast Host]

That's your line.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Yeah. That's where I go really hard on blacks and women. And then when it comes to the Jews, I. I take it I'm just really clever about it.

[Podcast Host]

Well, you got. You got people to answer to, I bet.

[Woman Propaganda]

So, people, what do you mean by.

[Podcast Host]

That company you work on?

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, oh, I mean, Gavin. Gavin's cool with. There's. There's Jew haters on. On his network.

[Podcast Host]

I mean.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. He's cool with people saying whatever they want.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Because I know Daily Wire is not cool with that.

[Woman Propaganda]

No, no. Censored TV is totally different than Daily Wire and Blaze tv. Yeah. No, you. You gotta be a Jew lover if you work for Daily Wire. That's for sure. Everybody knows that. Everyone knows that. Yeah. I think it's a shame. The. It's like one of the most important issues and, like, Matt Walsh could really make some great pieces, and he's just not. Because he works for Ben Shapiro.

[Podcast Host]

He has a lot of potential. Brett Cooper had a lot of potential.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Yeah. Well. But now she's gonna work for Fox News.

[Podcast Host]

We'll see how that goes.

[Woman Propaganda]

Working for Fox News is kind of the same as working for Daily Wire.

[Podcast Host]

That's what I thought.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You can't express yourself like, Tucker got fired from Fox, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, he did. I. I wonder about Tucker. I like Tucker. I think he might be a fan fed.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. I think. Yeah. His dad worked for the CIA. Wow. And then Tucker. Nick has talked about this a few times, but his dad worked for the CIA, and then he applied for the CIA and supposedly didn't get in, but instead worked for Fox News. And it's like, did you really not get a job with the CIA? Or maybe it's wink, wink, because if.

[Podcast Host]

Your dad got in, I'm sure the chances are way higher of the son getting a job.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah. And it just makes. But if you're going to be on Fox News, then we don't want to be saying that, oh, you're also a fed, so it would make sense that. Yeah. I don't know. It Would make a lot of sense that he would be a Fed. I'm not. Can't confirm or deny. I don't know 100%, but I think there's a strong chance he's a Fed. But I also think he says a lot of things that are true. Yeah, I like Tucker.

[Podcast Host]

I, I think about this often, man, because I've had 1700 guests, so the odds of a Fed being on undercover, pretty high.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, it's got to be like 100%.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

That's what you've had, a fed, for sure.

[Podcast Host]

100%.

[Woman Propaganda]

But. But there's different levels of being a Fed. There's. There's probably low level Feds where there's like snitching feds.

[Podcast Host]

I guess they're just reporting directly to them and snitching on people. But then there's actual Feds that are like getting on payroll.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Yes. Who have an agenda, who are here to say a specific thing. But yeah, you for sure. Yeah. The whole point of being a Fed is that people don't know you're a Fed.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

So there's definitely.

[Podcast Host]

Because there's a lot of big political podcasters, there's got to be a Fed in one of those shows, whether it's a host or a co host or something.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, definitely. I'm sure Joe Rogan's had feds on easily.

[Podcast Host]

He's had like 2500 guests.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, some of those had to be Feds. It could still be a good show. It could still be good content. But I think it's important to understand that some people might be Feds. I don't want to call everyone a fed because that also I. I'll get called a Fed sometimes too.

[Podcast Host]

For real?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, sometimes. I mean, you're doing something wrong if you don't get called a Fed. But yeah, sometime in the comment section, people claim I'm a Fed, and I'm like, no, I'm just making rage bait.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

I'm just out here.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You don't want to overplay it because then it loses its meaning. Like anti Semitism lost its meaning.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. If you call everyone a Fed, then it. Then it's. Yeah, that. That kind of ruins the word. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

We got to be selective with it. But there's definitely someone out there.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Gotta be careful.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Did you watch the Nelk Boys Netanyahu interview?

[Woman Propaganda]

I watched parts of it, yeah. I thought it was funny. I apparent they talked about. They got. Were handed a script beforehand and given questions to ask. So it was a. Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't really an interview.

[Podcast Host]

I would never do that if someone told me to do that.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, right.

[Podcast Host]

Like I come with my own notes. Like if someone gave me questions to ask right before, I'd be like, what the hell?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, it's just. That's scary a little bit. I'm like, are you gonna. Am I in trouble if I ask you the wrong questions? Are you gonna come after me or something or. Yeah, it's with Netanyahu, I don't even think you could have a real interview. And it's very ironic because in the interview he was saying, oh, are you guys are regulated? You don't have free speech? It's like, dude, you of all people know that we don't have free speech. BB so no, that was, that was crazy. If you watch that interview, I think Kyle and Steiny are sitting there kind of a little bit nervous, I think.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, I would be. They said there was like 20 agents watching them.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Oh, I'd be rightly so. They were nervous. Then they talked to Nick afterwards and I think that was, that was good. And everybody. Yeah, everyone was giving him shit for that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, the people spoke, right?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah. People are not happy with Benjamin Netanyahu.

[Podcast Host]

Both parties too, left and right.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah. It's conservative. It's one thing the conservatives and liberals are kind of coming together on is that Israel is screwing us over and wasting our money and committing a genocide and we're paying for all of it.

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Woman Propaganda]

They couldn't do any of this without us. They even, even when Iran started attacking them back, we were stopped, I guess. Well, what? We bombed their nuclear facility, but when they were striking us, we had our fighter jets out stopping their drone attacks, helping to protect Israel. So if Israel does something, they have our backing on it. I mean, they couldn't. This, this idea that, oh, we don't need the United States, Israel can defend herself. You hear that a lot. And it's just not the case is Israel could not do almost anything it's doing if people didn't know that we would step in and have their back.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They couldn't. They couldn't do what they're doing in Gaza without us. Greater powers would step in and stop them. And the reason they don't is because everybody knows that the US is going to jump in and defend Israel if someone comes after them. So they're out here starting trouble and spending our money and it's all at our expense. And I do not appreciate it. They're doing. They're doing all these things that we pay all these taxes and we see no benefits. And then you see a lot of evangelicals. There's a lot of Christian Zionists in America who say, have you heard God blesses those who bless Israel? This is a very.

[Podcast Host]

No, I haven't.

[Woman Propaganda]

You haven't heard this before?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Woman Propaganda]

This is a very common saying. I grew up Evangelical Protestant. I was taught that my whole life, God blesses those who bless Israel. Mega churches teach that. Lots of churches across America, people are programmed. Yes, yes. Yeah. That a lot of these churches are controlled. And I'm still a Christian, but a lot of these churches have that message, and it's. It's a problem, and people really believe it. And something I say is, hey, we've been blessing Israel for, like, 80 to 100 years now. Are you feeling blessed?

[Podcast Host]

Do you.

[Woman Propaganda]

Do you feel like our country is blessed? Because I don't feel like our country's blessed. I feel like we're heading in the wrong direction and we're getting broker and broker. So this whole God blesses those who bless Israel, whatever you think that means, I just don't. I don't believe it. I don't think we are certainly blessing Israel, and I don't think we are getting blessed back by Israel. I do not. As an American, I don't feel blessed by Israel at all. I'm not trying to be a hater, but I just. I don't feel. I don't think Israel is blessing us.

[Podcast Host]

It makes you wonder, like, why Trump likes them so much.

[Woman Propaganda]

You know, I think he's bought out. I don't think you're allowed to become president unless you're bought out before you get there.

[Podcast Host]

So you think they have that much influence over the presidential role?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, Yeah, I think. I mean, didn't JFK get assassinated right after saying he was standing up against Israel, gets killed two weeks later? He said something. He gave some great speech. There's a plan to enslave every man, woman, and child in this nation. I plan on exposing that. And then the CIA kills him.

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Woman Propaganda]

I believe the CIA is mostly controlled by Israel as well. So, yeah, I think our whole government's basically controlled by Israel. Everyone in Congress is a Zionist. Jews make up something like 2% of the American population. Yet how many Jews are in Congress? Way more than 2%. And. And then everyone that's in Congress, Jew or white or black, they're all pro Israel. There's aipac, gets all These people elected. So basically you're just not even allowed to get into the room unless you're bought out beforehand is kind of what I believe.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, the numbers don't lie. I think only six people voted against more funding to Israel on the last Congress round.

[Woman Propaganda]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Isn't that crazy?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, Six people. So we got six Congress people that weren't bought out, basically, yeah. Out of how many? 500?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. 5, 5 12, right? Something like that, yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Between. Between Congress and the Senate.

[Podcast Host]

Nuts.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Six. We got six people. Our government's bought out. And this is why I don't believe in democracy anymore, because you can buy. Buy people out.

[Podcast Host]

What do you think the alternative system would be, then?

[Woman Propaganda]

Some sort of dictatorship? I would like a Christian monarchy. A Christian king, I think would be the most fair. And the dictator sounds scary, but at least with a dictator, you have someone to blame, because right now we have all these problems and we have no one to blame.

[Podcast Host]

Right?

[Woman Propaganda]

You can. Oh, Trump's doing. Oh, it's not Trump's fault. Congress didn't let him pass it. Or you can just always blame someone else, pass off the blame to someone else. We can't point the finger and say, you are responsible. You need to get fired or fix this. Like, there's none of that. A dictator, maybe he could be tyrannical, but at least something could get done. Or if something's not getting done, at least we have someone to blame. We know who's responsible. So people are scared of dictators, but there's a lot of benefits to a dictator as well. So some sort of dictatorship, I think, is what we need.

[Podcast Host]

I wonder how dictators have done in history. I haven't studied it enough.

[Woman Propaganda]

There's been. There's been bad dictators and good dictators. I mean, a kingdom is a dictatorship. We used. All of Europe just had kingdoms before it was all Christian kingdoms. I think they were all Catholic and they all basically. But they were unified in that they were all Catholic and they all reported to the Pope. So I think Europe and Europeans were a lot better off when we were Christian and. And our leaders were. We had kingdoms. I, I think we were all better off back then with democracy. Like, everyone's working against each other. There's the Latina vote or the. The. There's the Mexican vote, there's the black vote, there's the white vote. It's like, okay, so we're all sharing a country together, but, like, we all hate each other and we're all voting for different interests.

[Podcast Host]

Right?

[Woman Propaganda]

It's Just dumb. It's like all playing this stupid game. We're not on the same team, like, at all. So I don't know. I, yeah, my opinion is we need, I don't, I don't have all the answers, but I, I, I think with certainty I can say that democracy has failed. It needs to go. We need something new.

[Podcast Host]

So Christianity is very important to you. Could you date a non Christian? Could you date someone that wasn't Christian?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, I would just convert her. Yeah. Girls, you can. If they like you, they'll just do what you say for the most part.

[Podcast Host]

So you could date an atheist and make her Christian, you think?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, probably. Yeah. Or if I couldn't, then I, I don't know. Then I just.

[Podcast Host]

Some of them are stubborn, you know?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, sometimes. But I think I would just convince them. I'd program them to think the way I think and I debunk their atheism. If you're still an atheist in 2025. I think I went through, like, a little agnostic phase.

[Podcast Host]

Same.

[Woman Propaganda]

And then are you. So you believe in God?

[Podcast Host]

I believe in God, yeah. I didn't label myself Christian, though.

[Woman Propaganda]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Say. I don't know what to call myself, but I believe in God.

[Woman Propaganda]

Would you agree with me that evil exists? Yes, the. So that's what I, I went through this agnostic phase. And then what made me come back to Christianity? Because I walked. I thought the evangelical church was silly. I walked away for a period of time. And what made me come back is just seeing that evil really exists. Seeing Covid, seeing how everyone was a sheep, seeing the child abuse that went on during COVID Kids wearing masks at school all day, everyone just going along with it. All the stuff, the drag queen stuff, putting children on hormone blockers. Our country's never been less Christian, and it's never been this degenerate and this evil. I think we're the most evil we've ever been today. Why?

[Podcast Host]

Do you think there's a direct correlation between the lack of religion and the evil in the country?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I see.

[Podcast Host]

I could see that argument. I'd have to look into the numbers, but.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, yeah. And I know atheists that agree with me. I mean, I know guys who are atheists and they're like, yeah, I'm an atheist, but America should be Christian. We'd be better off. Yeah, I know. I know some guys who are atheists and will still tell you that for the most part, people should just be Christian. We need people to be religious because it keeps them in check. If you're high IQ and you can understand that committing crime is, you know, not good and not logical, then maybe you can afford to be atheist. But if you're a dummy, you should just be a Christian.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

I think we'd be better off if people were Christian and believed that they were being watched and, you know, had some shame. I think we need to bring shame back.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. When I was agnostic, I just felt like I had no purpose, honestly.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

It was the worst my mental health has been.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I was lonely, like.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, totally.

[Podcast Host]

It's not fun to. To live that lifestyle.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. It's pointless. It's boring, I think.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Now I'm on a mission, the way I feel now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting argument. I got to look into that one. That's. Yeah. I probably just thinking about it, out of all the atheists and Christians I met, I'd prefer being around Christian people.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. The professor, Edward Dutton, the jolly heretic who I mentioned earlier, he's one of these guys where he's not really a Christian, but he says Europe should be Christian. Like, we need to be Christian for things to get better again.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

So this is a guy who's not even a Christian, saying that you guys should all be Christian, making the argument for it. Like, we'd be better off if everyone was Christian. And see, he. So. And what I think is. Okay, well, if you're saying that, then to me that sounds like Christianity is correct. If you're saying if it works, then maybe it works because it's true. But. So that's. Yeah, that's kind of how. That's kind of how I came back around to it is seeing that evil exists and. Yeah. Seeing that. Yeah. The correlate. We've never been less. Like I just said earlier, we've never been less Christian and we've never been this degenerate and, and this evil. So I don't know. And then I think that contributes to the declining birth rate. Like, if you're an atheist. Yeah. Why have kids? You know? Whereas if you're a Christian and you're on a mission in life, and that's inspiring and you want to carry on the bloodline, there's a reason to live. Life is beautiful. I. Yeah. So, yeah, I think I. I think America needs to be Christian again, for sure. I'm not a very good Christian, but I. I do say that America should be Christian again, for sure.

[Podcast Host]

I just feel like a lot of churches these days are not. Not good.

[Woman Propaganda]

Dude, no. Yeah. Oh. To. I, I, I don't, I, I've been going. One of my roommates and colleagues is Catholic and I've been going to mass with him and I'm very impressed with Catholic church. It's totally different than, like a non denominational mega church. These mega churches are a joke. You go to a mega church and these girls are in the front row putting their hands up, singing, and then that weekend they go out and do cocaine and like, hook up with a black guy and it's like. Yeah, that's just all fake to me. We have a lot of fake Christians. We have a lot of fake pastors. Yeah. And like we talked about earlier, a lot of these churches are Zionists. We got Christian Zionist churches, which makes no sense. Like, we got Christians that will tell you Jews are the chosen people.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Woman Propaganda]

Which makes no sense to me. If you're a Christian, shouldn't, shouldn't you believe that Christians are the chosen people? I would think that's weird to me that you're saying you're a Christian, but Jews are the chosen people. That. It just makes no sense. And that is like the, but the majority of churches you go to in America will tell you things like that. So it's tough. No, you're absolutely right. I sit here and say America should be Christian again, but that's hard to even. Where do you go from there? Because, yeah, the most of the churches in your area are fake and gay.

[Podcast Host]

Right. So it's tricky because you want them to promote it, but when they go to church, they're getting brainwashed.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. They're getting some bullshit message or you get a feminist pastor and then, I mean, some churches are just straight up flying the rainbow flag.

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy.

[Woman Propaganda]

Which is insane to me. Yeah. How does that work? But even the ones that don't fly the rainbow flag, they're still like a feminist. They still have feminist ideology or just the pastor's week. There's so many just important issues that Christians that these pastors are not speaking up about. All right. Have you heard of Mark Driscoll?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Is he in Phoenix? I think he's.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, I don't know. I thought he was in, he used to be in Washington. He might be in Phoenix.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, he's been on the show.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, you've had Mark Driscoll on?

[Podcast Host]

Yes, I interviewed him in Phoenix, like a year ago, I believe.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Podcast Host]

I know about his past. So is that what you're bringing up?

[Woman Propaganda]

I wasn't even going to bring about that. Yeah, I had some scandal. He used like church funds to buy his book or something like that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

But I saw a video of him recently. He was yelling at people about premarital sex. If you're a Christian, you cannot be having premarital sex, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, hey, man, I agree with you, but. And he's like, yelling and he's really passionate. And I'm like, I might even agree with you about that. But you're yelling about the symptom. We live in a country where people aren't getting married till they're like 35 or 40 years old. Like, what's your plan? That we're just like 30 year old virgins? Why don't we encourage people or make the country afford? Because he's also a Zionist. He's one of these Christian Zionists. I'm like, hey, Mark Driscoll, could you go tell your Jewish friends to stop robbing my country? Could you help make the country affordable for people to get married young and start families young? Because yelling at people to not have premarital sex, you're. You're yelling about the symptom. In a world where we're all getting married young, premarital sex kind of isn't even a question. Like, you're already married. If you're married at a young age, you don't even need to worry about that as much. It's not so hard to wait till marriage if you get married at 17 or 18 years old.

[Podcast Host]

Days.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So to yell at people about premarital sex, I'm like, you're yelling about the symptom. And it's so much deeper than that. Like, this country. How about, why aren't people getting married? Ask that question. And yeah, the country's unaffordable.

[Podcast Host]

And I can see why people aren't seeing how much I spent on my wedding.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, are you married?

[Podcast Host]

I'm getting married. Oh, no, my fiance's out there. But yeah, I could see why people are not getting married, though, after going through the process. Yeah, it's a lot of money.

[Woman Propaganda]

How much did you spend on the wedding?

[Podcast Host]

You don't want to know.

[Woman Propaganda]

I do want to know. Are you willing to say six figures? Wow, six. Are you getting married here in Vegas?

[Podcast Host]

Jersey. We met in Jersey.

[Woman Propaganda]

Okay. Wow. Yeah. That is an expensive wedding. Holy shit. Wow. Congrats, though. Oh, you're killing it if you have six figures to spend on a wedding.

[Podcast Host]

I guess. Shout out to the listeners of the podcast.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yo, let's go. Oh, that's great. How. What is she? Asian, white? What is she?

[Podcast Host]

You're not gonna like this. She's Bolivian. She's Paraguayan. She's indigenous American. She's a mixed race.

[Woman Propaganda]

She's a mutt as well. Two mutts getting together.

[Podcast Host]

So our kids are going to be everything.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, man. Well, they'll. She. She's probably got European in her as well.

[Podcast Host]

I think she does a little bit. Yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

I'm half Irish.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, nice. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I'm Irish. I'm Irish. German.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Woman Propaganda]

Nice.

[Podcast Host]

Germans are smart as bro. Every German guy meets, like, a genius.

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Oh, that's good to hear. I. I like to think I'm smart.

[Podcast Host]

Not positive, but I think they did, like, IQ by country in Germany. Was. Was up there for sure.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, nice. Yeah, I believe it. They almost took over the whole entire world.

[Podcast Host]

They almost did.

[Woman Propaganda]

Tiny little country and they almost rolled the. Ruled the whole entire planet. It required the whole world teaming up against them. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You guys take them down?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Everyone was against them and they almost won. So say what you want about them, but very impressive what they managed to pull off and. Yeah. So Irish, German. Yeah, if I'm. I think Irish are like some of the less smart whites.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. They like to drink a lot.

[Woman Propaganda]

They do, yeah. Yeah. But so you're half Irish. What's the other half?

[Podcast Host]

Chinese.

[Woman Propaganda]

Oh, interesting. How'd you get so tall?

[Podcast Host]

My dad's. My dad was six. Five, I think.

[Woman Propaganda]

So your dad's a tall Irish.

[Podcast Host]

Tall Irish guy?

[Woman Propaganda]

Yeah. Because Irish people usually aren't that tall.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I guess he was rare.

[Woman Propaganda]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

My mom's 5 6, so kind of tall for an Asian woman. Right?

[Woman Propaganda]

That's very tall for five. Six is tall for a woman in general. Nice. Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Well, dude, this was fun working. Where can people find you and see you up?

[Woman Propaganda]

Follow me on Instagram at Woman propaganda and all my angry patriotmedia.com for all my links. Follow me on all socials.

[Podcast Host]

Check them out, guys, next time you'll see him, he'll be debating someone.

[Woman Propaganda]

Let's go. Let's go.

[Podcast Host]

Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the team. Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting. And here's the episode.