The New Media Era: Why Athletes Are Becoming Influencers | Bud Dupree DSH #1416

Summary

Digital Social Hour - Episode #1416: The New Media Era: Why Athletes Are Becoming Influencers

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Bud Dupree
Release Date: June 23, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in a candid and insightful conversation with former NFL linebacker Bud Dupree. The discussion navigates through Bud's recent ventures into poker, his enduring football career, the evolving landscape of media and athlete influence, and his perspectives on coaching and player analytics.

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Bud Dupree’s Foray into Poker

Bud Dupree shares his unexpected success in a celebrity poker tournament, highlighting a new interest outside the football field.

Bud Dupree (00:30): "I started playing poker two days ago on my phone. First time ever. I feel like I did a great job. Came in today."

Despite his novice status, Bud attributes his performance to beginner's luck but remains humble about his chances in future tournaments.

Bud Dupree (00:56): "I'm not about to go home and study. I'm not about to go play more. I'm about to just, you know, when I play, I play."

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NFL Career Longevity and Challenges

Celebrating an impressive 11-year career in the NFL, Bud reflects on the physical and emotional demands of professional football, contrasting his experience with the average career span.

Bud Dupree (01:24): "This is my 11th year. It's been a blessing, God bless me, to be here at this point."

He emphasizes the importance of hard work and dedication, aiming to set a positive example for his children.

Bud Dupree (01:43): "I just want to continue to have fun, being an example for my kids, showing them that hard work and dedication really pays off."

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Evolving Team Dynamics and Coaching

Bud delves into the changes in team management and training practices, particularly the shift in how players are cut during training camps.

Bud Dupree (02:07): "They let you go through the whole training camp? Every guy make it through training camp."

He reminisces about the past's "gladiator school" environment, highlighting the more transparent and often brutal nature of team selections.

Bud Dupree (02:34): "It's cutthroat. But it's cool. It's part of it."

Bud also praises coaches like Colin and Jim Harbaugh for their straightforward and motivational coaching styles.

Bud Dupree (02:47): "Just basically, just not never sugarcoating, taking everything for it. What it is."

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The Intersection of Football and Media Influence

A significant portion of the conversation centers on the role of media in an athlete's career. Bud underscores the necessity of maintaining a media presence to remain relevant.

Bud Dupree (10:27): "If I'm not a continuous person that's on the media or in the media, like, they gonna forget about you."

He discusses the transition from traditional media to new media platforms, emphasizing how athletes now control their narratives through podcasts and social media.

Bud Dupree (11:05): "Like, so cool. Like, listen, we don't pay attention to them. We don't look at the news when we home chilling with the family. Like, we look at y' all stuff. We look at the podcast."

Bud also highlights his initiative to create a platform where players can rate each other, challenging traditional analytics provided by services like Pro Football Focus (PFF).

Bud Dupree (12:31): "I created a platform that let players rate players."

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Injuries and Career Aspirations

Bud candidly discusses the impact of injuries on his career, sharing personal anecdotes about torn ACLs and the arduous recovery process.

Bud Dupree (07:36): "The year I told my ACL I would say that... But at the end of the day, man, that was one of my best years I probably ever had in football."

He expresses a relentless drive to excel, aiming to be among the best in the game despite setbacks.

Bud Dupree (08:45): "Every time, you know, a competitor, injuries played me, man. I feel like that I really want to get the opportunity to be one of the best to ever play the game."

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Rivalries and the Physicality of Modern Football

Reflecting on past NFL rivalries, Bud contrasts the intense, physical confrontations of earlier eras with today's more regulated and cautious approach to the game.

Bud Dupree (13:34): "You can't really hit nobody. Like, you really can hit back in the day."

He laments the inability to engage in the same level of physicality due to stricter rules and the increasing financial penalties for aggressive plays.

Bud Dupree (14:10): "You hit somebody so hard, and guess what happened? You get fined."

Bud reminisces about the fierce rivalries, particularly between the Steelers and Bengals, highlighting the camaraderie and mutual respect despite the on-field battles.

Bud Dupree (15:08): "Sleep like cold... So the game, Sha' er went to sleep, Ab went to sleep that same game."

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Future Endeavors and Personal Life

Beyond football, Bud touches on his investments in real estate and the importance of preparing for life after sports. He stresses the value of building a supportive team to navigate post-athletic careers successfully.

Bud Dupree (09:36): "Got a lot of stuff outside of football with real estate adventures and stuff like that. But most importantly, man, just staying the course."

He also reiterates his dedication to family and personal growth, ensuring a balanced life beyond his athletic pursuits.

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Conclusion

In this episode, Bud Dupree provides a multifaceted look into the life of a professional athlete navigating the demands of sports, media, and personal aspirations. His reflections offer valuable insights into the changing dynamics of football, the necessity of media presence in the digital age, and the relentless pursuit of excellence despite challenges.

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Connect with Bud Dupree:

• Instagram: @bud_dupree
• Podcast: [Link to Bud's Platform]

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Note: Timestamps correspond to the transcript provided and are included to highlight notable quotes and moments within the conversation.

Transcript

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

So if I'm like. If I'm not a continuous person that's on the media or in the media, like, they gonna forget about you. So if you ain't really creating controversy or doing great in life, like, you can be having the best life ever, under the radar. But people gonna forget about you.

[Host]

Oh, easily.

[Bud Dupree]

But if you want to be a person that's own, like, you gotta be in existence.

[Host]

Yeah. All right, guys, we got Bud here. Celebrity poker tournament. You said you almost won that shit, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Listen, I started playing poker two days ago on my phone. First time ever. I feel like I did a great job. Came in today. A lot to look forward to. I don't want to think too much into it for next year. So I ain't. I'm not about to go home and study. I'm not about to go play more. I'm about to just, you know, when I play, I play.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

And come out here next year, man, and try to, you know, take the crown.

[Host]

Get it. Beginner's luck, they call it, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Believe it.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

No, major.

[Host]

So you're not big on gambling? You know, you don't play any.

[Bud Dupree]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I don't really gamble a lot in the casino. I like the. I like gambling. Like fights.

[Host]

Yeah. Sports betting.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. With Bud Crawford fight.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

I want to bid on Bud every time. If Bud Crawford fight, no matter who we've been, who we fighting, I'm betting on Bud Crawford.

[Host]

Bet on yourself, for sure. That's the best bet you can make, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. I wish I could scratch that. I can't bet on myself, but if I could bet on myself, I would, you know? But I like to bet on Bud Crawford. Yeah.

[Host]

I love it, man. What's the main focus for you right now, man?

[Bud Dupree]

No, it's football. Finishing this season out. This is my 11th year.

[Host]

Congrats. Not a lot of people make it that long, man.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, exactly, man. It's been a blessing, God bless me, to be here at this point. I just want to continue to have fun, being an example for my kids, showing them that hard work and dedication really pays off.

[Host]

Yeah. 11 years average NFL career, two and a half years.

[Bud Dupree]

Most definitely.

[Host]

Crazy.

[Bud Dupree]

Not for long. That's what they call it.

[Host]

You've probably seen so much turnover on every team you're on.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. See, people don't understand, like, I was a part of the era. The new guys on this. I was a part of the era when they come to your door and knock on your door during training, count and cut you really? Yeah. They can't cut you during training camp no more.

[Host]

Oh, wow.

[Bud Dupree]

They let you go through the whole training camp? Every guy make it through training camp.

[Host]

Why'd they change that?

[Bud Dupree]

The new CBA came in and they decided, you know, it was kind of embarrassing for guys, people getting cut on tv. But. Yeah, man, I remember being in the dorm room in Pittsburgh. Five in the morning, you're caught, whatever your name is. Just for instance, Joe Smo. Bring your playbook. Yeah.

[Host]

That is embarrassing, though, for sure.

[Bud Dupree]

You in a room with somebody, then you see a new person walk in, next day. That's shit like gladiator school.

[Host]

Yeah. It's cutthroat, huh?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, cutthroat. But it's cool. It's part of it.

[Host]

At least you learned it.

[Bud Dupree]

Colin did a great job with that, making sure people like knowing. Understanding is gladiator school.

[Host]

Yeah. What's the biggest thing you learned from him? He's one of the greatest coaches of all time, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, definitely, man. Just basically, just not never sugarcoating, taking everything for it. What it is. A players being A players. If you're a B player, be a B player. But, like, in those certain times, like, we need. If you're a player, you gotta be a player in every situation. You know, him and Harbaugh, probably the two best coaches I ever had a part of, being a part of hard. Harbaugh is a very different type of type of person, man. But he's like a great individual. Something about him, it's just like. It's a feel. You know how sometimes you like energy? Yeah. You walk up to him, you like. You ain't said two words to me, but I feel like you just a great person. You know what I'm saying?

[Host]

Some people got that aura.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, man. That man, one of them. And I feel like he's just a person. I know Harbaugh for one year. He's a great person, man. Great opportunities. He's just one of those guys. Yeah.

[Host]

Cause some coaches want to know you personally. Some are just like, let's keep it separate, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. Yeah. But him and Tom, and they like neck and neck. They like the same type of ordeal. They the same type of player. They care about the person behind under the helmet.

[Host]

I feel like that's good because it makes you want to work even harder.

[Bud Dupree]

Right, man, Work more hard. Like, if I see Harbaugh and Tomlin, like those type of guys, like, going hard for me, outside of what it takes to be a pro person for their team, he's gonna make you go hard every day for them. Like, let's talk about family, let's talk about your old stuff. Let's talk about what you did back in the days. Like, kind of like get to know me.

[Host]

They say coaching's one of the hardest jobs in the world.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. I'll never want to be no coach. No for sure.

[Host]

The time I want to be coaches.

[Bud Dupree]

Is like, yeah, it's crazy. I don't want to be a coach for sure.

[Host]

I mean, their average 10 years probably might be less than a player.

[Bud Dupree]

No. 100%. You got two bad seasons, your ass might not be the head coach ever again in your life. Think about it. You can go be a head coach. You have two bad seasons, under 500, two new years in a row, the GM gonna fire your ass and you gonna come back in. You probably never be a head coach again. Like you gotta be a position coach.

[Host]

Crazy. I feel like two years is not enough time to build a culture for the team.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, and you're really right, it ain't. But in a sense though, it is. It's pressure. Your first year you get to get your. You get to get the guys out of there. Your second year, you get to bring your guys in. If you make it to that third year, they expecting you to win. So before you get outta that second year, you ain't won that third year, you better make some sh.

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[Host]

Go anywhere without it. Damn, that's tough.

[Bud Dupree]

They got a hard opportunity. They think it's hard, but we got to go neck and neck. Like the players and coaches really need to be on the same page. It's always feel like coaches versus players, but nah, like we're on the same team. It's the coaches and players versus the the ownership. You know what I'm saying?

[Host]

Yeah. A lot of politics involved.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. Cause if you lose, the owner gonna tell them not to sign you back. Fire the coach. So like we really on the same team, but like we really don't see it that way sometimes.

[Host]

Damn, that's nuts. What season is the most memorable for you out of your 11 seasons?

[Bud Dupree]

The year I told my ACL I would say that.

[Host]

Really?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, I told my ACL my contract year.

[Host]

Damn.

[Bud Dupree]

Uh huh. Bad timing. That's my most bad timing. Well, God blessed me. It still worked out perfectly for me. Tennessee gave me an opportunity, gave me a chance to be financially stable for my family. But at the end of the day, man, that was one of my best years I probably ever had in football. Like nine sacks and like eight games.

[Host]

Damn.

[Bud Dupree]

On a tear, Told my acl, you know, kind of like pivoted. Took two to three years to recover from that.

[Host]

Holy crap.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. Nah, it's crazy. Cause I was just getting back. Started like two years ago and I got on the Falcons and last year on the Chargers like, those are the years where I feel like I was getting better and better from the ACL tear.

[Host]

That's a tough one. Yeah. AP's here. He tore his right.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, he did both, right?

[Host]

Yeah, I think both and some more.

[Bud Dupree]

I played with AP in Tennessee.

[Host]

Oh, yeah?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. It came to me in Tennessee last year. Last year.

[Host]

I remember that season. He was still popping off at age 40.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, still. Yeah, 40.

[Host]

Still got a thousand yards.

[Bud Dupree]

And he was mad he wasn't getting the ball. What? We had Derrick like, man, you ain't about to get the ball, boy. You got Derrick hearing about him by you. That boy gonna get the ball 50 times a game.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

No, he the best running back ever do it. Really?

[Host]

I think he's the goat.

[Bud Dupree]

But AP is. Yeah, ap. Him?

[Host]

Yeah, he's him for sure. Have you accomplished everything you wanted to so far?

[Bud Dupree]

Nah. Nah.

[Host]

You still want more?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, I still want more, definitely. Every time, you know, a competitor, injuries played me, man. I feel like that I really want to get the opportunity to be one of the best to ever play the game. That's just a part of it. But, I mean, God got a plan for everybody.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

That's just what happens. I'm still going to go out there and grind every day to my best ability and play, you know, hard for my team, for me and my family. So it is what it is.

[Host]

Yeah. Injuries ruined so many careers.

[Bud Dupree]

Oh, for sure.

[Host]

In the NFL.

[Bud Dupree]

I'm glad I stayed in and did long, you know what I'm saying? So Tennessee could have put me at the wayside, but I was getting hurt every week.

[Host]

Damn. Not often.

[Bud Dupree]

Peck, oblique knees, thighs, everything. This was a repetitive cycle because when.

[Host]

You'Re coming off a tear, your whole body's weak, Right?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. You compensate for everything. And you gotta do. You gotta rehab. Right? You gotta rehab. Right? You gotta rehab.

[Host]

Yeah. Damn. That's nuts, man. What are you doing outside of football? I know family's big for you.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, definitely family, man. You know, make it, make it. No, staying in tune with everybody, man. That's basically what it is, man. Got a lot of stuff outside of football with real estate adventures and stuff like that. But most importantly, man, just staying the course.

[Host]

That's smart that you're already investing a lot of athletes.

[Bud Dupree]

I feel like you gotta kinda like sometimes you gotta be in the moment and the older guys can tell you that, like, once you take the helmet off and stop playing football, people kind of look at you different. Even though you may be a Super bowl champ, one of the MVPs team MVPs, offense, player, year, defensive player years. When you take the helmet off, people kind of look at you different. Like, ah, you a. Has been. So while you playing, man, you gotta kinda, like, take advantage, but you gotta have, like, your right team in place. That's what I just learned about having the right team in place. Later on. You gotta have that shit from day one.

[Host]

People forget quick these days, quicker than.

[Bud Dupree]

Ever, they forget you.

[Host]

News is, like daily now.

[Bud Dupree]

It's not.

[Host]

It's not like it lasts.

[Bud Dupree]

Ain't no news. You the news. You see what I'm saying? So you come in now I'm gonna talk about. Yeah, but now they gonna come and look at your show.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

So if I'm not. If I'm not a continuous person that's on the media or in the media, like, they gonna forget about you. So if you ain't really creating controversy or doing great in life, like, you can be having the best life ever, under the radar, but people gonna forget about you.

[Host]

Oh, easily.

[Bud Dupree]

But if you want to be a person that's known, like, you got to be in existence.

[Host]

Yeah, it's a new media now, too. Like, TV's not getting views anymore.

[Bud Dupree]

It's crazy to say that. I just told the boy CJ, whatever it was.

[Host]

CJ's so cool.

[Bud Dupree]

Yes. I just told CJ, bro. Like, so cool. Like, listen, we don't pay attention to them. We don't look at the news when we home chilling with the family. Like, we look at y' all stuff. We look at the podcast. We look at influencers. Yeah, we go type in their names. Like, look at stuff like that. Like crazy. Like, y' all platforms are becoming the media.

[Host]

The streamers are like the new media now.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, definitely.

[Host]

Kai Sinat, people like that.

[Bud Dupree]

But It's. No, not YouTube. But that's how they podcast, too. Yeah, that's how they are. Y' all doing a great job. Y' all built your own way. And you can't say that y' all didn't create it because it wasn't here a couple years ago. It just became existence. So y' all made a way for y' all own. For y' all selves in a new world.

[Host]

Yeah, I like athletes starting pods because now you get the mindset of a pro athlete before you got some guy that never played sports talking on espn, you know what I mean?

[Bud Dupree]

Like, pff. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, PFL comes in and they rate a player. Let's say he had a 50, a 50 grade. You go get your Grade in your office with your team and your coach. You got a 90. So if I got a 90 with my coach, how I get a 50 with PFF? Yeah, they don't know football. They just say stuff that they think is right. They think that's what. What they think is wrong.

[Host]

100%.

[Bud Dupree]

Like, PFF ain't football, man. It's analytics. Like. And that's why I ain't gonna lie. That's why I started some shit that let players rate players. Like, you know what I'm saying? I created a platform that let players rate players.

[Host]

Oh, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I was just.

[Bud Dupree]

My bad. Yeah, I'm gonna have that going. That's gonna be coming out real soon.

[Host]

Oh, hell, yeah. We'll link that below. I was watching Gilbert Arena's show, and they were talking about Draymond Green. So if you look at his stats, like, and you just looked at the numbers, you know, he wouldn't even be in the hall of Fame.

[Bud Dupree]

Well, definitely.

[Host]

But if you analyze his whole game and what he does on the court.

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[Bud Dupree]

You see what I'm saying? Yeah, but if you a PFF.

[Host]

They'll give him a 50 and give.

[Bud Dupree]

Him a 40 and be like, man, he ain't nothing, but you go look at. Turn the film on. He the person that's making everything happen.

[Host]

He's a defensive anchor. He's setting the screens. Any fighter, he fighting.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, he throwing hands, and he throwing hands. Yeah, boy, Draymond throw hands, man. Yeah.

[Host]

Some old school basketball.

[Bud Dupree]

Old school basketball he definitely can play. Back in the days when them boys were two pieces and coasting. God bless Kobe right now. But, like, you know, when they was throwing hands, like two piecing each other in the middle of the game, the Pacers fights like the bad boys back in the day. Yeah. The Nate them boys was.

[Host]

Yeah. Basketball's gotten soft. Do you feel like football has gotten a little soft compared to the old days, too?

[Bud Dupree]

For sure. You can't really hit nobody. Like, you really can hit back in the day. You hit somebody too hard now, right now, they gonna get. You can't lower your head.

[Host]

Damn. Yeah, you get socks, like, for someone like you, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Oh, for sure. Like, the biggest hit I had part of my career, like Matt Moore. I hit the Matt Moore from the Dolphins, and I was on the Steelers. I probably derailed his ass, but that cost me $30,000.

[Host]

Holy crap.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, but back in the day when James Harrison was taking quarterbacks from the ground to the air and dumping them on their Neck. All fans in the world did was say, like, that's a great talent. That's a great hit. But now you hit somebody so hard, and guess what happened?

[Host]

You get fine.

[Bud Dupree]

40,000.

[Host]

That sucks because now every time you hit someone in the back of your head, you're like, am I about to get fined?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. So how you gonna be a savage? You can't really be a savage. For real.

[Host]

You're holding yourself back.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. You gotta be like, all right, it's Taco zone. Me being that Taco Zone, that's crazy. But if I'm a dog, I'm a dog. I'm trying to go. I'm gonna smack them. So, yeah, what it is.

[Host]

When did those rules start happening? Was it recently?

[Bud Dupree]

I said, three, four years ago.

[Host]

There must have been too many injuries or something, right?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. People are going to sleep. Yeah, bro. Like, hey, man, Ryan Shazir is my boy. We played on the Steelers. We were playing the Bingles. The Bengals and Steelers was like, the Bengals and Steelers is like a gladiator school. Yeah, we played in. They had Burford, then they had Pat. Man Jones. Patman Jones. Great player. No, Burford. Burford was knocking people out back then. We had Ab on the team every game. We played them boys. For a two year stretch, it was two people going to sleep each game.

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[Bud Dupree]

Sleep like cold.

[Host]

Holy crap.

[Bud Dupree]

So the game, Sha' er went to sleep, Ab went to sleep that same game, that's when Ab.

[Host]

Oh, was that the infamous concussion?

[Bud Dupree]

That's when Ab got the concussion.

[Host]

Damn.

[Bud Dupree]

Shaezier end up the situation. That happened to him. We cried on the field in that time. What happened? Me and Vince Williams, he was middle linebacker at the time. I mean, we looked at each other. We like, shit. It's body for body. So the next one we gotta see somebody that came through. The running back came through. We slept him.

[Host]

Jeez.

[Bud Dupree]

So now it just lets you know, like, how violent the game is. Like that Bengals is still his. History was a different type of rivalry. It felt like high school rivalry. Like when you hate your next door neighbor. Yeah, like every day I see him, I just gotta get him. It is what it is.

[Host]

I got dangerous. They say that was the hit that changed Ab's career too.

[Bud Dupree]

That's what they said. But before the game, people don't know. Burford came all the way to our side of the field and pushed Vince Williams. Really Because Vinny tweeted and said, when I see that boy in person, I'm gonna paint that boy. So, you know, in Florida, they say paint that boy. That mean they want to fight.

[Host]

Damn.

[Bud Dupree]

So, yeah, they pushed up in the middle of the field by the hit, so it was just. It was. Man, I loved. I loved at that time of the year. Yeah, they count the game, but now, man, you really can't do all that, man. You're going to kind of like they gonna kick you out of league for real, bro.

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[Host]

I love it.

[Bud Dupree]

Rivalries are crazy.

[Host]

Make sports feel good. Like, without rivalries, I wouldn't be interested in sports.

[Bud Dupree]

Yep. The Chargers. I feel like our rivalry is the Chiefs this year, too. Felt like the Broncos with Bo Nicks there. Cause Bo Nicks kind of, you know, was a hot topic, but like, yeah, just my first year in the Chargers. Like the Chiefs, you can feel that tense. You can feel that tenacity as soon as they step in the stadium with those. Yeah, we ain't win this year, but, you know, still got it.

[Host]

I think you got time. Looks like Kelsey's on his way out. I think there's. I think there's a window for them to be.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, yeah, he needs to leave. He need. Just retired.

[Host]

As you need 35. Yeah. For tight end.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah. Just go ahead and let us know. Let it happen.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Bud Dupree]

That boy's still balling, though, so shout out to him.

[Host]

Good podcast, too, for sure. Crushing the podcast killing. I think he sold for 100 million.

[Bud Dupree]

Damn.

[Host]

Yeah, there's a lot of money in podcasts, man. You should look into it at heart. Well, I know you already have your own show, you said.

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, but I don't do it. I don't do like. I don't do like. Yeah. I don't do. Serious.

[Host]

We'll talk after those. Where could people find you and keep up with you, man?

[Bud Dupree]

Yeah, bud. Underscore. Dupree. Instagram. Airwood, man. Tap in. Same thing.

[Host]

Go. Thanks, man.