The Outcast Who Built A Business... | David Fullmer | DSH #2020

Summary

Digital Social Hour: "The Outcast Who Built A Business..." – David Fullmer (DSH #2020)

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: David Fullmer (Entrepreneur, Author of "Becoming Seven: Superhuman Rhythm")
Date: June 15, 2026
Duration: ≈ 60 min

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with David Fullmer, a successful entrepreneur, roofing industry leader, and author of the new book "Becoming Seven: Superhuman Rhythm." David discusses his turbulent upbringing, path to sobriety, and how he rebuilt his life and business by developing a "superhuman" weekly rhythm inspired by personal development greats and his own life lessons. The conversation is raw and unfiltered, covering gratitude, forgiveness, intuition, business resilience, and deep personal stories that illuminate David's philosophy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Intuition, Breathwork, and Facing Fear

• David shares the importance of trusting intuition, especially in high-stress situations.
  • "We have those feelings of intuition that kind of break common sense sometimes. That's one thing I've really tried to exercise over the years, is listening to the whisper, the inner spirit inside you, and try to listen to that whisper in the wind." [00:00]
• He describes using breath holds as a tool for emotional regulation.
  • "If I'm feeling myself getting upset, it's just huge breath holds, like you're going to be held under water. Just let yourself go lightheaded and exhale. Do that three times." [00:00]

2. David’s Background and Entry into Roofing

• Started working as a roofer for cash at age 14 after running away from home; moved between Utah and Hawaii, using crisis (a 50-year storm) as business opportunity.
  • "When my family and I had moved back out to Hawaii, we got hit with a 50 year storm and there was a ton of roof damage throughout the islands. And so there was a vacuum and it needed to be filled." [01:58]
• Now operates roofing offices in Texas and Hawaii, focusing on retail rather than "chasing storms."
  • "We're not really big storm chasers... We're mostly retail, so we're just, we're not like around chasing all the storms. That's a racket." [03:02]

3. The "Becoming Seven" Framework

• Inspired by David’s upbringing around personal development (his father worked for Stephen Covey, author of "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People").
• David's formula: Assigning a superhuman principle to each day of the week to design a structured, fulfilling life.

Principles by Day

| Day | Theme & Practice | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Monday | Motivation Monday: Dream big, plan with a whiteboard. "What would you attempt to do if you knew you couldn't fail?" [00:00, 07:09] | | Tuesday| Tracking Tuesday: Awareness & thought-tracking; focus on turning negative thoughts positive. |
"The average person has around 60,000 thoughts a day... 80% of them are negative... High level superhumans, 80% positive." [08:13] | | Wednesday| Whisper Wednesday: Tune out digital distractions, go on silent walks, and trust your intuition. |
"I coach people to completely tune out of the digital age. Put the camera away... Just look within." [16:25] | | Thursday| Thankful Thursday: Focus on gratitude and positive leadership. |
"An attitude of gratitude, then anything is possible... A true leader... can look at every situation and say, there's always an opportunity here for growth." [17:26] | | Friday | Forgiveness Friday: Let go—of others, yourself, and the past. |
"It's so key that we let those things go. I can't say it enough. And there's four principles of forgiveness..." [21:40] | | Saturday| Satisfaction Saturday: Enjoy life with loved ones; create "love you" money, not "f-you" money. |
"No one on their deathbed is ever going to say, I wish I spent more time at the office." [42:04] | | Sunday | Supplication Sunday: Humility, faith, and submitting to a higher power. Lessons from jiu jitsu and near-death experiences. |
"When we learn to tap out to a higher power... I call that supplicating. We're submitting to God, whoever you're... To me, it's my heavenly father." [44:23] |

4. Forgiveness & Transformational Stories

• David emphasizes forgiveness as a fundamental and difficult superhuman attribute.
  • Story of reconnecting and apologizing to a man he harmed as a teenager—resulted in emotional healing for both.
    • "Here's this grown man, 47 years old, saying, 'Dude, I've hated you for 30 years.'... Now we're friends." [26:25]
  • Both host and guest share personal stories of forgiveness, trauma, and observing the destructive power of holding grudges.
    • "Wishing bad on my enemy is like drinking poison and hoping it kills them." - Quoting Nelson Mandela [24:34]

5. Early Life Struggles and Rebellion

• David grew up as the fourth oldest of 13 kids, with his family moving 27 times before age 18, resulting in a lack of stability and frequent run-ins with the juvenile system.
  • "We moved, what, like 27 times by the time I was like 17, 18." [29:20]
  • Struggled with anger, identity, and substance abuse, entered youth corrections 12 times; found hope and mentorship through a Tongan friend and his family in Hawaii.
    • "His dad, my hai dad... signed the papers, took me in... I got sober and started coming back to my faith." [35:20]

6. Gratitude and Maternal Resilience

• David’s mother, a single parent to eight kids, modeled relentless work ethic and forgiveness after a painful divorce.
  • "Her... acts of forgiveness and just complete love... She's kind of my scepter when it comes to that." [38:58]
  • Both Sean and David reflect on their mothers’ sacrifices as a source of inspiration.
    • "My mom came here from China, 20 bucks in her pocket... now she became a self made millionaire." – Sean [40:16]

7. Intuition Story: The Stolen Car

• In an extraordinary example of trusting intuition, David recounts how following a hunch led him to reunite with a lost work vehicle, choose compassion over punishment, and connect with a struggling youth in crisis.
  • "I'm wanting to know why my intuition's telling me not to press charges. And then I'm sitting here with this kid... and now I'm able to help him." [55:00]

8. Spirituality, Humility, and "Tapping Out"

• David compares humility in jiu jitsu ("tapping out") to submitting to a higher power in life, relaying stories from the mat and a harrowing trip to Russia as sources of spiritual growth.
  • "Supplication Sunday... as humans, when we learn to tap out to a higher power... that's one of the greatest things I've learned is humility, Sean." [44:23]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Life Potential:
  "The only reality is the one that I create. And the greatest reality I can create is one that impacts humanity." – David [13:08]

• On Forgiveness:
  "Wishing bad on my enemy is like drinking poison and hoping it kills them." – Quoting Nelson Mandela [24:34]

• On the Weight of Anger:
  "Dude, I've hated you for 30 years... I think I need to forgive my brother too." – Story of former classmate and personal reconciliation [26:27]

• On Leadership:
  "An army of lions led by a sheep will always be defeated by an army of sheep led by a lion." – David [17:26]

• On Family and Agency:
  "Nothing is really mine except for my agency and my choice... The only thing that you have is your ability to think the way that you want to and make the decisions that you make." – David [39:00]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00 – David on intuition and emotional control
• 01:13 – Early construction and roofing career
• 03:43 – Introduction to "Becoming Seven"
• 07:09 – Motivation Monday explained
• 08:13 – The power and tracking of thoughts (Tracking Tuesday)
• 16:25 – Whisper Wednesday: Silence, intuition, and walks
• 17:26 – Thankful Thursday and attitude of gratitude
• 21:40 – Forgiveness Friday: Steps and stories
• 29:00 – Childhood challenges, moving, family trauma
• 35:20 – Path to sobriety and moving to Hawaii
• 38:58 – Mother's resilience and lessons in forgiveness
• 42:04 – Satisfaction Saturday: "Love you" money vs "f-you" money
• 44:23 – Supplication Sunday: Spirituality and humility via jiu jitsu
• 48:59 – Russian story: Prayer, near-death, and faith
• 51:02 – The car theft story, intuition in action
• 56:59 – Full-circle on intuition, breathwork in anger management
• 58:44 – Why "Becoming Seven" works with ingrained weekly rhythm
• 59:10 – Book details and community

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Final Thoughts & Closing

David concludes with an open invitation:
"I'm just looking for the coolest story behind Living the principles of B7... We'll be bringing someone out to Hawaii to hang out for a couple days. Go shark diving and surfing." [59:10]

Sean and David close with light banter about surfing, Hawaii, and encouragement for listeners to check out the book and share their own stories.

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For More Information

• Web: becomingseven.com
• Instagram: @become7official

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Transcript

[David]

So we have those feelings of intuition that kind of break common sense sometimes. That's one thing I've really tried to exercise over the years, is listening to the whisper, the inner spirit inside you, and try to listen to that whisper in the wind. If I'm feeling myself getting upset, it's just huge breath holds, like you're going to be held under water. Just let yourself go lightheaded and exhale. Do that three times. What would you attempt to do if you knew you couldn't fail? Like, what would you really go after if there was no way you were going to have failure? And put that down and really go for it.

[Sean]

All right, guys, we got David on the show today. Just came out with a new book, Becoming seven Superhuman Rhythm, and we're gonna dive into that. You've had a lot of success in business, and you're out here in Vegas having some fun, man. So let's get to it.

[David]

Yeah, yeah. Thanks for having me.

[Sean]

Sean. How's the trip been? You've been speaking on panels. You've been going on pods.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You've been gambling, too?

[David]

Actually, I'm not a big gambler, but I do have an employee that was hit me up. He's like, dude, 100 on black. So I did, and it went black.

[Sean]

So nice. Doubled up.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Not a lot of people could say they left Vegas doubled up.

[David]

We actually let. We're going to be leaving with a profit of 100 bucks.

[Sean]

Well done. Stuck. That pays for the dinner, right?

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Appetizer in Vegas at least?

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

It's expensive out here, but how's the roofing's your main thing?

[David]

Yeah. So I've been in basically general construction and all types of construction. I was a stonemason for years, but the last couple years of kind of since 2008, been really heavy in the roofing game.

[Sean]

Nice.

[David]

When I was a kid, my very first job when I was a kid, when I kind of ran away from home, I had a guy that we went and worked for doing flat roofs. So my very, very first job as a kid was working for cash on flat roof roofing. Yeah.

[Sean]

Was that in Hawaii or.

[David]

No, that was actually in Utah.

[Sean]

Utah, Okay. I was going to say Hawaii. Probably rains a lot, right?

[David]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

Out here. There was a lot of flat roofs out here. I feel like Vegas. So that's how you started?

[David]

Yeah, yeah. Got into that. Well, it wasn't when I was 14, that was the first thing, my first job I ever had, but I went through a lot of different things and when my family and I had moved back out to Hawaii, we got hit with a 50 year storm and there was a ton of roof damage throughout the islands. And so there was a vacuum and it needed to be filled. And so a bunch of other contractors I know kind of got on board and that kind of got me really pushing into the heavy just roofing game.

[Sean]

Wow. So what year was that storm?

[David]

Oh, that was 2,000, around 11. So I was doing roofs here and there as a gc, but when that storm hit, there was just hundreds of homes down here. So we just, I just got into kind of production, assembly line, just one single trade, getting really focused on just roofing areas. It's been crazy since I know a

[Sean]

few people that they live out here, but they chase storms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there was a big one in Florida, I think a year or two ago. So they flew out.

[David]

Oh yeah.

[Sean]

And like we're going to houses and he closed a couple of them. He made some money. It's crazy.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

People do that.

[David]

Oh yeah.

[Sean]

Storm chasers, huh?

[David]

Oh, yeah. There's guys that, they just sit and wait in the minute they see a storm that the hail storm and the hail wind, hurricane. Yeah, we're not really big storm chasers. So I have a, I have an office out of Wylie, Texas and we can service around 19 states. And then I run the location out. It's another location out in Hawaii on all the chain islands. So when we're not big storm chasers, when a storm comes again, you know, we'll, we'll. If there's someone has damage, we'll work that and help homeowners out in the system. But we're mostly retail, so we're just, we're not like around chasing all the storms. That's a racket.

[Sean]

I don't do it.

[David]

I like to be around my family and.

[Sean]

Yeah, you're a big family man, right? That's one of the seven things in your book.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, 100.

[Sean]

Yeah, let's dive into that. So there's seven becoming seven. So there's seven kind of themes, right?

[David]

Yeah, so. So as a young kid, I. My dad was one of the first, probably like 20 employees of Stephen Covey and he wrote the book the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. And so I was kind of around personal development at a young age. I've always enjoyed it. Had a real wayward time in my life. And then when I was coming back to being sober and sober minded and physical and physically and spiritually finding myself, I kind of Dug back into those old times when I was little and just started really studying and reading and reading and reading about all the different philosophies. I was always intrigued, like how there can be a family and one. One sibling is super successful and another one's just a dud. And I'm like, what is it? What is it that takes someone that has all the same tools, this person has all the same tools. And only one person really goes big and the other kind of stays stagnant? And it just tripped me out.

[Sean]

Same environment, but different outcomes.

[David]

Yeah. And I've always interested in really the human experience and how we can live the most out of this life. And so we got really into meditations, heavy into Marcus Aurelius and listening to Jim Rome tapes when I was a kid with my dad cruising up PCH was incredible to get back into that. So. Yeah. And then just naturally in business, started living these things. Had some bumps in the road and decided, you know what, I'm going to create this. I had a few days of the weeks that I already lived during my business career and having various different businesses and then a few I came across so growing. I kind of grew up in a religious family. And so Sunday was really, really important. But I was always wondering about the other days. I used to have Whisper in the Wind. Wednesday was like my little inspiration.

[Sean]

Whisper Wednesdays.

[David]

Yeah, Whisper Wednesday. And then I came across a study that more people have heart attacks on Monday morning from 8am to noon than any other time.

[Sean]

Interesting. From stress.

[David]

Yeah. And kind of like, sorry. Basically from them not having their why or what, you know, what are they doing, where are they going? They're just tossed amongst the sea is so to speak. Right. They don't have a direction in their life. And so that was huge to me. He's like, dude, you're telling me all. Everybody's mostly having heart attacks. It's not their ethnicity, it's not their background, it's not where they live, it's not their cholesterol level, it's not their age. It's straight up, they're confused. So their cortisol level, super high. Monday morning. I've got another week of I don't like this. I have another week of I don't know who I really am. And so when I came across that, that was heavy. And I was like, okay, that's going to be motivation Monday. And then all the days I really studied, I really studied into the human experience and what emotions take place on different days of the week. And there's an actual algorithm behind it of emotions. And it's a trip, dude. So I went down this rabbit hole. Okay.

[Sean]

I could guess Monday and Friday. I don't know what the other days would be.

[David]

So Tuesday and we can go. We just got Monday. So that's motivation Monday. And so that's really. I like to help people take the whiteboard and whiteboard their life. Dream big. Dream really big. And almost to the point it's like when. What would you attempt to do if you knew you couldn't fail? Like, what would you really go after if there was no way you were going to have failure? And put that down and really go for it. And then the next day is Tuesday and Tuesday is tracking Tuesday. And that's like the day of the Avatar, I call it. God gave us two eyes and two ears to be very observant and one mouth. And I think sometimes we need to be quiet and not just listen to others, but be attentive to the way that we're kind of showing up to others and the way we're communicating with people. And so it's really a really cool day, a day of awareness to track our thoughts. So the average person has around 60,000 thoughts a day.

[Sean]

Crazy.

[David]

80% of them are negative.

[Sean]

That's crazy.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

And high level superhumans. Okay. They're the exact opposite. They have only around 20% are negative. They have 80% positive.

[Sean]

That's actually fascinating. So they rewire their whole brain.

[David]

Yes.

[Sean]

To think positively.

[David]

Yeah. You're, you're. And then 90% of everything that humans do, 90% of their thoughts and what they're doing are the same they did the day before. The day before.

[Sean]

The day before. Yeah. Subconscious, right?

[David]

Yes. So you have all these subconscious army ants in your brain and what fires them off to go and do is the thoughts that you have. So if you have constantly negative thoughts, these army ants can't. Your subconscious mind can't distinguish between fact and fiction. Right. So if it says you know what, you're healthy, you've got this. Those army ants go after it and they fire the vibration in your body to fight cancer cells, to rejuvenate to. To have less inflammation. You can inflame your body from thinking 100%.

[Sean]

They've done studies on this on. They've done studies on people with certain diseases and positive. The only difference was positive and negative mindset. And the outcomes were so different.

[David]

Yeah. They've done it in testing. Like they'll come in and they brought it. They brought. They have two case Studies where they have a teacher walk into a classroom and just totally unload on the students. You guys are a bunch of idiots. I can't believe I'm giving you this test. Blah blah blah. Just yelling at them, creating all this cortisol. Right? And then they take a test and then the next case study they come in and the teacher's like, guys, you know what, this is going to be a tough test. But I believe in you. I'm super stoked that you guys are here. Blah blah, blah. You know, just a total different atmosphere of leadership. And their test scores are higher.

[Sean]

Makes sense. Fear based approach doesn't work these days.

[David]

Yeah. So that's kind of tracking Tuesday is make sure that we're having those positive thoughts. And then another thing is knowing between Monday and Tuesday is knowing who you are. The average person has 4,098 grandmas and grandpas DNA inside them. So here's this huge pyramid of all these humans that live before you. And it's all coming down to you in this short moment of time. And I bring that up because you're very, very important. A lot of people don't feel that they're important. And, and that's not true. The average person will affect 40, 000 other people in their lifetime.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

From their decisions.

[Sean]

That's crazy.

[David]

And so it's like, let's be honest,

[Sean]

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[David]

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[Sean]

Jeez.

[David]

And so another crazy thing is, is I like to talk about is we as human beings are the only ones that will willfully choose okay to not live up to our potential. So if there's a pot of dolphins, they're going to multiply and replenish in their respective elements. A tree will always grow as tall and as wide and as far down its root system as the water, sunlight and wind will allow. It will never stop and say, you know what? I'm not going to grow that high. You know, the ants, the critters, the creatures, none of them will ever just decide, I don't want to be great. It's only us. And so it's really, and it's the, the main quote in my book is the only reality, my quote that I love, the only reality is the one that I create. And the greatest reality I can create is one that impacts humanity. And we've come to this place in our culture where we're all just little islands. I think, we think we're not as connected and it's the furthest from the truth. Every decision that we make and everything that we do has an effect on the person for generations of time. It's like that little ripple effect.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And I think we've, we've grown. Our, our culture and our society has grown into such a me, me, my, my. And we've gotten away from the farmlands. It's like, you know, we as a, as a people, especially here in America, we all used to work so Much together. You had to like farming chores and all these different things. People are. Families were so connected. And it seems like we've grown into this. Oh, I've got all this on my own and, you know, I hope I can help show people that it's okay to be connected to others and help do things in community and networks and. And because we're all so connected.

[Sean]

Yeah. I feel like we're the most connected we've been digitally, but physically we're the most disconnected we've been, you know?

[David]

Yeah. 100%.

[Sean]

Like the access to just connection online is so easy and like you can meet thousands of people. Like, we'll post this podcast and I'll hit a bunch of people, but in person it seems to be lost.

[David]

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, and it's balanced. Like you can't live without it. I mean, look at the power of the digital age. Like you're saying it's like you can, you could sit. You and I can sit right here and millions and millions of people can experience this conversation, which is really, really cool. But yeah, you're right. And that moves us on to Whisper Wednesday. And that's Whisper Wednesday is. It's a day of intuition. If you were to go ask all your first responders, doctors, airline pilots, anyone know, Army Rangers, Navy Seals. Hey, anyone that has the weight of like responsibility for people's safety of their life has such a heightened sense of intuition. And it's because they have to, they exercise it like their boat's burnt, there's no coming back. Like, you're a doctor. The weight of the world's on you to save this patient. Okay. And so when you have that responsibility. That's why I like push people to put. Responsibility is a good thing. It helps, you know, shape you. And if you were to talk to them, hey, do you ever, do you ever have a situation where you just had a hunch or a feeling. Oh. And you can just pull up and start taking notes because they'll rain it down on you. And so Wednesday is Whisper Wednesday. And I coach people to completely tune out of the digital age. Put the camera away. Yep, just put your phone away the first half of the day. You know, I go on, I usually go on like an 8 mile whisper walk.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

In the woods that I call. Yeah. I go down the street, go up my. Down from Pupukea and go up to a pillbox, through the mountains and home and just complete silence. And you'd be surprised when you listen to your heart. Everyone has this little still, small Voice inside them, and it's very powerful. But that still small voice can't come out and communicate with your mind. You can't connect your heart to your mind until you slow the hustle and bustle down, stop looking at everybody else, and just. Just look within. And so Whisper Wednesday is a day of inspiration. So, yeah, that's impressive.

[Sean]

I'll try it out.

[David]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Sean]

About eight miles, but start. We'll go on a walk. Start there.

[David]

And. Well, it's just get into an organic environment too. Like if you can go out to the desert. Yeah, desert's a beautiful place. People like, think, oh, why would I want to go to the desert? Just go sit out there for a couple hours, you know, listen to your whisper. Okay, It'll come out.

[Sean]

So that's Wednesday. What's Thursday?

[David]

So moving on to Thursday. Thursday is an amazing day. It's thankful Thursday. When do we have Thanksgiving?

[Sean]

Thursday, Right?

[David]

Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. So Thursday is a day of gratitude. And so the dichotomy is it goes like this. An army of lions led by a sheep will always be defeated by an army of sheep led by a lion. And. And that is the answer to that is attitude. And attitude and gratitude. When those come together and attitude of gratitude, then anything is possible. And so a true leader that can lead their family and themselves can look at every situation and say, there's always an opportunity here for growth. And I think too many times we think we're going through all this hard times and this and that in which everyone does, and they aren't easy because we all suffer in our own little ways. But if we can have that attitude that I'm going to learn something from this, then those weight. That weight of the world feels lighter.

[Sean]

100%.

[David]

Right.

[Sean]

I agree. Treat everything as like a lesson, right? Yep. That's how I view failure, too.

[David]

Yep. Yeah. And all because all real success is. Is going from failure to failure to failure to failure to failure without losing enthusiasm and saying, I've got this one day. Right. I mean, how many times did you fall on your face and with some kicked in, big fail.

[Sean]

Epic, you know, but when you're young, I feel like you can afford fail a little more. So I was trying to get those out of the way when I was a teenager and in my 20s.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I mean, I still feel now, but.

[David]

But you've done really, really well. But that's because you went for it.

[Sean]

Yeah, I hustled went for it. Now it's more balanced for me at my current stage. Yeah, you know, because I used to work 18 hour days. Got burnt out.

[David]

Yeah. How's your state of gratitude?

[Sean]

Pretty good. I have a gratitude journal.

[David]

Yeah?

[Sean]

Yeah. Every day.

[David]

Yeah. I've been on a bunch of these, a bunch of podcasts and met a lot of, a lot of. I consider you superhuman. I mean, look at your reach and it doesn't matter what industry you're in, if you have an impact and are helping a lot of people and it's, you're considered superhuman. So I've met a lot of superhumans and it's always similar. Like all these principles that I teach, they're all living them in their own ways. Um, and I've just basically condensed them and, and, and simplified a way that they live them because honestly, there's a lot of people that don't wake up and actually write down all the things that they're grateful for and they're suffering. And it's such a simple thing.

[Sean]

It's very simple, very quick. And I've, I've split, tested it. I've gone like a month without doing any and a month with. And I just feel better. See, the business does better too. It's crazy, isn't that there's, there's literally a direct correlation.

[David]

Yep, yep. And, and that's, that's the crazy thing. A lot of people look at others and they just look at others and look at others and think, oh, it's, they just had some crazy gift or something like that. It's not true.

[Sean]

Not at all. I used to think that way when I was younger. Not anymore.

[David]

Yeah, it's just a different recipe. Right. And that's, that's a huge ingredient is gratitude. And so, yeah, we talk a lot

[Sean]

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[David]

SocialHour then moving on Friday. Friday's a heavy one.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

Yeah. It's one of the hardest superhuman attributes to ever acquire, and that's forgiveness. Forgiveness Friday. So. And the reason Friday is, is you have, you have. You're coming off a Thursday, so you have a heightened state of dopamine when you're super grateful. You just feel good. Right. So you're coming into Friday. And that was always a day when we were kids. Like, you get a dollar elementary school, you know, you get a little ice cream after, you know, after school, or everyone's stoked because you're going into the weekend and you don't have work. Right? Yeah, most. Most people. And so is there a party tonight? Everyone's cruising, whatever. Right. And so that is a good time to reflect on what's holding us back. And most of the time, it's something in the past. Right. And it is so key that we let those things go. I can't say it enough. And there's four principles of forgiveness that need to be followed. We need to forgive the past family members, and people that wronged us, whether it's our mom, dad, aunties, uncles, siblings. We have to go back into that zone and say, you know what? You're human. You made a mistake. You hurt me, I forgive you. And whether it's letting them know maybe they've passed on, doesn't matter. What matters is you let it go because it holds you back. The next is to forgive people currently that have wronged you. This doesn't mean you let them back in your life if they're not safe. Right. But you live free of any negative vibes to that person. The next is to forgive yourself. Because some, some of us hold ourselves to the highest standard and we beat ourselves up, beat ourselves up so much. And then the last is to say sorry when you make a mistake. But don't ever apologize unless you absolutely mean it and it's the right timing.

[Sean]

Interesting.

[David]

Okay, so. Because sometimes you do things, they're just a heavy situation and it needed to happen. And. But, yeah, that's it. And so, like, my wife and I flew here. It was five. I think it was five hours and 20 minutes. We're going to be going back. It's a whole hour different. So back to Hawaii, you've got. You got the same pilot, same plane, same people, same distance, same altitude. Why is it an hour difference? It's a headwind versus a tailwind. So all these human beings are going through their life thinking in their mind. You know what? I'm not going to let that go. Thinking in their mind that they're holding someone accountable by not letting go and not forgiving. And it's the exact opposite. Right. Nelson Mandela, when he was asked, hey, now you're president, are you gonna. Guy was locked up for what, 20 years?

[Sean]

By a long time. Yeah. I think it was more than that.

[David]

Yeah. By people that just for no reason, that just hated him.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

You know, because the color of his skin or whatever. And here he becomes big chief, big boss. What does he say? No, I'm not going to do anything. Wishing bad on my enemy is like drinking poison and hoping it kills them. And so forgiveness is just one of the most powerful emotions of freedom. It's the most freeing. One of the most freeing mechanisms.

[Sean]

Yeah. I had to learn that at a young age. You know, my father never forgave his father. Wow. For the way he was raised. So I saw him live in that pain, and that. Like, that hurt my whole life.

[David]

And it affected his whole life.

[Sean]

Affected him his whole life. I think he lived a lot less than he should have because of it. You know, he's no longer here, but it just ate Adam. Dude, when you don't forgive someone for that long, I mean, oh, my God. Destroys you physically.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Start resorting to alcoholism, whatever, to get through the pain.

[David]

Yeah. I did a post a year ago, and on Forgiveness Friday, it was just a little post on my social, and I ended up getting DMed by someone that says, how can this guy preach forgiveness when he knocks somebody's teeth out or something, hurt someone's teeth, and blah, blah, blah. And it was literally When I was 15 years old, in high school, 16, I got in a fight with the guy.

[Sean]

He did his homework on you.

[David]

Well, the crazy thing was, is he was going through a heavy time. He DM'd me, and I DM back. I'm like, bro, I don't. If this happened, I'm sorry. I don't know. Well, we ended up, like, messaging back and forth. We ended up calling each other. So here's this guy, and he gets on the phone and he's weeping. He's like. Because I just apologized. I said, dude, I had no idea that I did that to you. Like, I had no idea you went through that. I guess he had to have his. His.

[Sean]

Oh, you did that to him.

[David]

Oh, yes.

[Sean]

Now I got it.

[David]

Yeah. Sorry.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

So, yeah, I had. I guess we got in a fight in the lunchroom.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And in that scuffle, I guess I had punched him. And he. And because I was a little rascal when I was junior high, high school, and I guess he had to have surgery. And I never knew, never. Never heard of anything.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And so here he is, literally 30 years later, right. And I'm talking to him, and I just said, dude, whatever the cost was, I'll pay for it. Whatever your surgery, talk to your mom. I'm so sorry. You know, I just want to. To get it off of my plate. Yeah. And I felt bad. And he just wept. Like, here's this grown man, 47 years old, saying, Dude, I've hated you for 30 years. And he's like, I'm going through some stuff right now with my brother that's really heavy. And the fact that this is all coming to right now, he's like, I think I need to forgive my brother, too. And I was like, yeah, bro.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

So this. Any. Now we're friends. So here was this moment, but this individual held on for 30 years. 30 years this guy's been hating me. And I had. I had no clue, Sean.

[Sean]

But there's probably so many stories like

[David]

that, and it's like, how many of us did something we didn't even know or something's out there. So that wasn't for me. That was for him. I mean, also for me. Now that I know. But it just compounding the fact that I believe in forgiveness, you know, it's important, man.

[Sean]

I got. I've told this story a few times before. I got bullied a lot by this one kid in high school. And I found out at our 10 year reunion last year that he's now a heroin addict. And it's just like, damn, he was probably bullying me because he got a rough situation going on, you know? But I was really sad to hear that it turned out that way for him.

[David]

Yeah. Especially you. You look at your life and, you know, you're living the life that you wanted to design.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And not everybody can say that, you know, and here's this kid that did that stuff to you, and now look at the Script. You have compassion for him.

[Sean]

I do, yeah. He was like the popular high school quarterback or whatever. So he was living it up back

[David]

in those days, the, back in 1982. Throw football.

[Sean]

Yeah, a lot of people, not a lot of people, but like, people peak in high school, you know, and it's, it's kind of sad to see what turns out.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I was, I was basically destined to be in prison and. Oh, yeah, I have, I've had friends from high school hit me up and Dave, I need a job. Multiple. Wow. And, you know.

[Sean]

So you did the complete opposite.

[David]

Yeah, my, my childhood was, I mean, we didn't get into that. We can. But yeah, it was quite a. Interesting, interesting thing. But I, I, I have 13 kids. My, my parents had 13 children.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

Yeah. Nine boys and four girls.

[Sean]

Damn.

[David]

And then we moved, what, like 27 times by the time I was like 17, 18.

[Sean]

So you had no friend group, no consistency.

[David]

Yeah, like, we were talking before, before we started the pod. Like, I, anytime I got to know a friend, we moved. Yeah, like, it was like I was almost afraid to get a close friend.

[Sean]

Makes sense. And that was back then when you couldn't text him too, so you lost complete contact with him?

[David]

No, it was like, that was back when we were playing, like, you know, tnc Skate on Nintendo. Like Nintendo was a thing back then. And like, I remember one of our neighbors had Nintendo. We didn't have it because we had so many kids. I think we eventually did, but anyways, we used to go play Nintendo and skateboard, go surf at the beach and stuff. But it was hard because I, I really hated my parents because of it. Until later in life, I realized I had skills to communicate, to make friends and to be someone that, that understands multiple cultures and situations. And I wouldn't have those skills had I not moved that much. So I always look at it as a negative and the minute. And it's so crazy in our lives when we, when we see the silver lining and say, yeah, I went through all this negative stuff, but, dude, look what's become right?

[Sean]

So forgiveness Friday, you got to forgive your parents.

[David]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

You got to sit them down and forgive them. Right? Did you do that?

[David]

I not just forgive them, I thank them. So in my journey, it wasn't like, because my, my mom one time said, david, I'm so sorry we moved so much. And I said, mom, dude, I forgive you. I love you, but I'm thanking you now. I remember the last couple times we had this conversation. I mean, we just wept. And I just said, I am so grateful that you moved me that much because you showed me that nothing is really mine except for my agency and my choice, like, what I do in my life. Those aren't my friends. I don't own my friends. I don't own my material things, wealth, money, nothing. The only thing that you have is your ability to think the way that you want to and make the decisions that you make. And so that was a huge thing. But as a kid, it's like I was the really the black sheep and that when we moved a lot, we moved. We ended up moving to Utah from Southern California. I kind of. I grew up on mostly beach areas. My dad was a surfer, so he taught us. All of his kids were surfing since we were five, six years old and moved to Utah. And it was just hell. Like, when you take a kid from the ocean, you know, I'm like 11, 12 years old.

[Sean]

I'm like, dude, to Utah. They close everything at like 8pm there. Complete opposite, light style.

[David]

And I got long blonde hair. I'm a little beach rat. I probably swore a lot more than I should have.

[Sean]

And we got to throw up a photo of you with the long blonde hair.

[David]

But it was. It was. It was gnarly. And so I was an outcast. Didn't really fit into any of the kids there. And so I started getting a lot of trouble. So I got put in youth corrections custody when I was a kid.

[Sean]

Dang.

[David]

And so I went to youth lockup facilities 12 times, went to four different youth programs. I went to Wilderness Ascent, Red Cliffs, Ascent ona, which is called Observation and Assessment, and then like, group Youth Quest and then Group Homes. Wow.

[Sean]

So you didn't. You had a lot of identity issues when you were a kid then, right?

[David]

Yeah, I was just angry, dude. Like, I told you, we moved all those times, and then they took me away. From the minute we. I was taken from the ocean, I was like, I'm like, you know, f this, I'm going. I'm going Richter. And I don't want. And my mom is not like, she could. My dad was a traveling, like, sales and training guy. And so he was never there. He wasn't present that much. And how can you when you got me 13 kids? I mean, my mom's got. At this time, she's got nine kids, probably three of them in diapers, right. And she's. She's just weighed down with like, no one's checking on me. I'm. I'm out. Like, you Know, I'm checking with my mom every couple of days and she's trying to find out where I'm at. We don't have cell phones back then. It's like, I think we were just coming into the pager age.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

So. But it was pretty heavy. It was heavy to see my mom's face when the judge was like, okay, you're now warden, state of ut. Like, the judge looked right at me, says, we're your parent. Sorry, Mrs. Fulmer, but you can't control him. We're gonna have to came in, put me in handcuffs and sent me to a wilderness program in St. George, Utah.

[Sean]

Geez. Was it effective?

[David]

I actually liked it.

[Sean]

Really.

[David]

But it was really hard. I admit that. It was really, really, really hard. But I enjoyed the mountains and I enjoyed challenges. I actually did really, really good in these environments. And then I'd get back out and make a bunch of dumb mistakes and get put back in. So I excelled when the zone because I knew what I had to do to get out.

[Sean]

Interesting.

[David]

So I was, you know.

[Sean]

Those were your teenage years?

[David]

Those are my teenage. And then my best friend I met in junior high, he was kind of my roll dog partner. He's a Tongan boy. He's from the island of Tonga.

[Sean]

Oh, island. Okay.

[David]

Yeah. So, you know, like Samoa, Tongan. They have Tongans Samoa.

[Sean]

And all the Fijians, those guys fight in the power slap that I always

[David]

go, yeah, they do the power slap. And then. You ever seen the. The rugby challenge? Hit each other head on.

[Sean]

It's no amount of money. No amount of money. I would do that one for maybe slap if it was like a million. But no. The running full force at you? Hell no, dude.

[David]

Those guys are just animals.

[Sean]

Yeah, I can't believe those.

[David]

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, So I rolled with. With. He was my best friend. He's from Tonga. And he basically was. He was. He was born in Honolulu, then moved to Tonga, then to la and we met up in junior high. He had just moved from California too. We just roll got in a bunch of trouble. But his family was moving back to the North Shore when we were 17. And so I was locked up. My mom and dad met with his parents and talked to him. And my parole officer said, hey, if you leave the state of Utah and don't get any trouble until you're 18, we'll. We'll let you off. We'll let you go to Hawaii, so just leave. So his dad, my. My. My hai dad is what they call it in the islands. Fileti Mataile, He. He had. He basically signed the papers, took me in, and that was it.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

I was on this amazing journey. I got sober and started coming back to my faith and really trying to find God and figure things out for myself. Because it was like five, six years of just complete, gnarly partying. And longer than that, eight years more than that, of just like, you know, I was smoking weed. By 12 years old, I was dead. Selling weed like you would. I was. I had the. Yeah. I mean, in junior high, I was supplying half the high school with all crazy. It was, you know, here I'm this little innocent little kid. My mom's looking at me, and I got a backpack bud.

[Sean]

I sold it in college to get by, too.

[David]

Yeah. So it was.

[Sean]

Got to do what you got to do.

[David]

And I was good at it, man. I was a little sales guy.

[Sean]

I was nice at it.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Yeah, I was nice. It's a good skill. It is now. It's legal, but.

[David]

Yeah. Well, my other. My older brother Joey had. He just had a really good, dank connection.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah. He had the plug.

[David]

He had it, dude. And so everyone had that kind of. That. The dirt weed.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

From the border.

[Sean]

Oh. Especially from the East Coast.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

We had the shittiest weed on the

[David]

east, where it's like you. You bend it and seeds just go.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah. Because they all grow on the West Coast. So, like, by the time I got to Jersey, where I was at, it was.

[David]

Yeah, yeah. Just the total dirt weed. And. But my brother Joey had the nugs. And so that really put me above.

[Sean]

Got it.

[David]

The rest.

[Sean]

You could start the tone.

[David]

Yes. Yeah. I kind of get what I want. But anyway, so, yeah, going through all that, but I ended up getting sober in Hawaii and I was really on fire. My life, finally, like, the first time in my life, I'm like, dude, I'm kind of getting a handle this thing. And I was in. I was just happy. At the end of the day, I was finding joy just surfing and hanging out the beach and with friends, and it was just amazing. And I come home to visit and hang out at my. My mom's house. She has eight kids at home, and she comes to all of us older kids because I'm the fourth oldest. Okay. So there's a bunch of little munchkins below me. And she says, hey, you know, I'm going to be divorcing your dad. And that was just like, that's heavy.

[Sean]

You didn't see that comment at all.

[David]

No, I just thought we were the perfect little Whatever.

[Sean]

Wow. So they hated from you guys all

[David]

the fighting and it wasn't necessary fighting. My dad had, you know, some moments of weakness and through his moral failing, unfortunately, and fortunately, because everything happens and

[Sean]

it was pretty sad. Yeah.

[David]

Yeah. So out of nowhere, my mom's, hey, you know, I'm asking your dad to leave. And my dad had stepped out on my mom, and it was just really gnarly for all of us. And my mom had eight kids at home. And my dad, financially, I think emotionally, mentally, he was just on his own wavelength, but wasn't helping much.

[Sean]

Damn.

[David]

At all financially. So my mom went and got two jobs. So she's working the graveyard. And I still remember the night it happened. My brother Joey dropped me off at the house. He says, hey, dude, you gotta. You gotta help mom. We're all married. You're the oldest isn't married. And I wasn't equipped to be a dad.

[Sean]

Yeah. How old were you?

[David]

I was, what, 21, 22.

[Sean]

That's pretty young to get married, though, I feel like.

[David]

Yeah, Yeah. I wasn't equipped to get to like, be a. Not a surrogate father, but you know what I mean, be a pops. They were my siblings. I loved them. And so I moved in, stayed with my mom. My mom worked two jobs. I worked framing houses and working construction, and we just made it, made ends meet, you know. My mom was an amazing human being and she taught me so much about forgiveness. You know, I always tell the story. I figured out how to get my mom 350 bucks per kid.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah?

[David]

Yeah. You know, I was like, because. Or the. The child services, they basically. You can just file papers, right? You know, it's kind of like the EBT card. But you got kids and you need help, they're the state's there to help you.

[Sean]

Right?

[David]

So I had this big plan. I was like, hey, mom, dude, you don't have to work. You got eight kids. You know, eight times three. Something. There you go. There's our rent. Yeah, there's our rent, you know, and she just, you know, put her hands on my face and gave me a big hug, told me she loved me. She said, david, it's. It's better that we work than the little kids see their dad go to jail because there's a possibility you could be put in jail. He doesn't help pay. Holy crap. And I'm just sitting there like, whoa. Like, this is heavy. And she's like, we need to forgive him. Just let it go. He's going through it right now. And so her. And I mean, I have story after story of my mom, of acts of forgiveness and just complete love and she's a happy, very, very happy person and I love being around her. She always just so positive and so she's kind of my scepter when it comes to that. She was the rod that I really held onto. I can tell you in my business, career times, multiple times when I just felt like giving up. Like literally, like f this, I'm over this trip and you've been there and been there building your business, you know, and you hit that rock rock bottom. And you know, I close my eyes and I just see my mom. You know, I see my mom going, hitting a graveyard shift and just never giving up and working and I just couldn't ever give up because of that.

[Sean]

Perspective's everything, man. My mom came here from China, 20 bucks in her pocket, didn't speak English, scrubbed big floors of a shitty restaurant, now she became a self made millionaire.

[David]

I love it.

[Sean]

So I just see what she had to go through and I'm like, damn, I got it easy.

[David]

And it's respectful. You build on that. And that's the key partly in Motivation Mondays. Stories like that is feeling you're mindful of all the people that had nothing and made something of their life. You're constantly reading the stories and the books instead of just entertaining your mind and living vicariously through all these people on social media. Like what are you really learning about people that did great things? You could use your phone and social media to do that. But how many of us sit and just scroll and scroll our lives away or just whatever it might be and just entertain ourselves to death and we're not scrolling. Yeah, yeah. And we just don't get out and get our things done.

[Sean]

So you got to take action. Got em. Every time I doom scroll, I try to sprinkle in something in between. You know, play a game of chess, listen to an audiobook or do something work out. Because if you're just scrolling for hours a day. Yeah, it's not good.

[David]

Yeah. But well, from, from Friday we move into Saturday and Saturday Satisfaction Saturday. And so it's just making sure you're having fun with the ones that you love. Right. No one on their deathbed is ever going to say, I wish I spent more time at the office. Right. They're going to be like, wait a minute, right. There's that same, same common thread in humanity where you see the old gray man and there's two stories. There's the guy that forgave and loved and had moments of amazing, incredible times with those that he loved. And then there's the one that just. Man, I wish. I wish I would have. I wish I would have. I wish I would have. You know, the regret.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And. And so it's key. I always. I have a. I have a saying, and it's. It's love you money, not f you money. See, a lot of people, you've heard the phrase Sean for sure. Oh, dude, that guy's got fu money. Oh, yeah. I don't ever want to be with anyone with f you money. I want to be around people with love you money. I'll be around people. There's two types of individuals, individuals that use people to get things, and then there's people who use the things that they have to love people. And that's it. That's the love you money versus the f you money. And so we need to be absolutely striving to make money. But why? So that we can have moments with the ones that we love and our friends and our homies and everybody we associate with. And then the last is that we have memories. So that's kind of satisfaction Saturday. I dig deep into that in my book. And then moving into Sunday. So I was talking to Adriana out there. Yeah, he's. He's a legend, or you're outside, man. And I think it's Pereira. Yeah, yeah, he's a really good dude. He knows a bunch of the dudes that I know and shout out to

[Sean]

Acai Republic for that. Acai boy. I can't wait to try one.

[David]

Oh, my gosh. I've had it, actually, because they've got a place up on the North Shore.

[Sean]

Can't wait.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's. It's cool. But he's a black belt in jiu jitsu, has his own club, and I'm a brown belt. I've been doing jiu jitsu for 14 years.

[Sean]

That's impressive, man. I know how hard that is.

[David]

It is way hard. And I'm kind of a sandbagger. Like, I had a few injuries and I'm just. Just toting away. I just had rotator in my chest. Full replacement of my shoulder. And so I've been out for about 10 months, and I'm just about to get started again. So you're itching to get back in? Oh, my gosh. I watch too. Too many Jiu Jitsu reels. I'm just like, oh, my gosh. I just gotta. But in that pursuit, in that love, if you were to talk to black belts, brown, any. Anyone that's really been in jiu jitsu for over a decade and are good people. They. If you talk to any of them and say, what have you learned? Have you. One of the greatest things they've learned is humility, Sean. I can't even tell you how many times I have tapped out, whether. Oh, that was a brown belt. Thousands. No, I'm talking from my journey.

[Sean]

Oh, got it.

[David]

From white to brown.

[Sean]

Got it. That makes sense.

[David]

So your journey, you are tapping just like in your business. How many times you get your face kicked in, in the early stages of your white belt business days. Okay, now you're a black belt in business. Right. You're going for the coral belt. You're making way less mistakes.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And so what I mean by that is I had to learn to submit. I'm submitting to a higher power. So it's supplication Sunday. And so as humans, when we learn to tap out to a higher power in this universe, something up there greater than us, I call that tapping out. I call that supplicating. We're submitting to God, whoever you're. Whatever it might be. To me, it's my heavenly father, and I'm saying on my knees, I can't do this without you, or I love doing this with you. Heavenly father, thank you so much for being there for me. It can't always be. We run to God when things get tough. I learned this when I was, I was in Russia riding motorcycles. Okay.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

So I, I raced in the Baja 1000 in 2007. And then, and then my brother in law had some wild hair because I was racing desert. I was desert racing motorcycles for a few years and, and my brother in law called me. He's like, hey, dude, you want to go on this tour by this trail bike tour in Russia? I was like, okay, yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

Okay, cool.

[David]

So we bought our tickets, got everything set up, but we booked it through a group through Switzerland at any rate. My. My sister's married to a Russian guy.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And I told him, I said, hey, Ivan, I'm going to Russia. He's from Moscow. I'm like, hey, I'm going to Russia. You got any insight? I just wanted some tips, you know. And he's like, david, David, please don't go there.

[Sean]

I told him.

[David]

I was like, I like, dude, I already have tickets. I'm going to the Euro mountains. He's like, david, please do not go to this place. You will not return. And I was like, and so I'm laughing because I'm like, dude, Ivan. And so he. He writes a name and number down. He's like, if you were about to die, he's really straightforward. He's like, you know, if you're about to be killed, call this number. And so I was like, okay. So at least I had a number in my. Someone I knew in. In Russia, went to Russia. Everything was cool. And. And then we. We. We would go up in the mountains, and then we would come down, they would feed us and. But we find out we're the first Americans to ever go on this tour.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

We're the first tour in Russia. So all the pictures they showed us were all Switzerland. No one had ever even been on this tour. So we have this Chechen guy who's coming and going. It was a very sketchy ride. It was a trip. And we went to a, like a lake party place because we're there in the summer. And I mean, we were riding up on Stalin's roads. And this. Our guide's like, no American has ever been here. This is like. I'm like, whoa, that's crazy, right? And so we go to this camp. Well, the Switzerland. Our guide from Switzerland makes friends with this massive six, seven, roided out, gnarly, buff, Ivan Drago looking guy named Boris. And I get in my tent, I go to sleep, call my wife. It's my birthday, August 4th, 2007, I'll never forget. And I call my wife and kids. You know, we, whatever. We had cell reception right by this little lake. It was cool. And then all of a sudden, a body falls on my tent. And I was like, what the hell? And it was the other guy I was rooming with from Switzerland. He's wasted, gone, blacked out drunk. And Boris is at the opening of my tent. I open it and there's this massive rush. And he's like, sleep to the guy I was with. So I grabbed by his collar and I'm like, bro, that's. You gotta sleep. Listen, this guy, like, we're not from here, bro. We're up in the middle of nowhere and there's a six, seven, buff dude, you know, and he's got the brand new G wagon and like, nine groupie chicks with him. Like, lights are like his own disco party. Like, this is his town. And so I yell to our guide in the other tent, I was like, bro, come help us. He's like, guys, we're not safe here. Please do whatever Boris says. And so I'm like. And then he says, hey, I've got a gun. I'm gonna kill this guy. So he's telling him in Russia, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna take this guy's life.

[Sean]

Damn.

[David]

If you don't get him to sleep, I'm gonna make him sleep. So our guide then says, hey, he has a gun. He's gonna go back to his truck and get his gun. He's gonna come back and kill this guy if you don't make him sleep. So I grabbed that and I grabbed my book, my. My book of scriptures, and I went up and ran up the mountain and slept in a cave.

[Sean]

You did. Like, you're like, I'm not doing.

[David]

I'm out of here. I don't care. Boris, you got to handle him. Handle him. Dude, that ain't me. I ain't drinking. I ain't part of this trailer. No, I bounced. So I went up. Everything ended up being okay. But the point I'm trying to make is, is the prayer I had that night in that cave in Russia was like one of my most sincere prayers. Like, I was like, heavenly Father, I'm in the middle of freaking nowhere. I don't speak Russian. I'm like, I gotta. I need help. I just, hopefully everything works out. Please. You know, and it worked out. But I bring that up because I think so many times we. We don't reach out to God until we're on the edge of a cliff. True. It's so funny how many atheists all of a sudden on the verge of death, become believers.

[Sean]

A lot of them. Especially in prison, too.

[David]

Yeah. And so what if we could have him in our lives all the time and not just when times are tough? So I bring that up because that's been the roller coaster ride of my life. It seems like my spirituality always increases when my, my expectancy of something bad happening increases.

[Sean]

Yeah. It is fascinating, right, how we kind of like have no other answers to be resort to God in moments like that. Yeah, yeah, I've been guilty of that too.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Last couple of near death experiences or weird stuff happened where I'm like calling out his name and I'm agnostic, you know, but even in my dreams, like, I'll have wicked nightmares. I'll call out Jesus.

[David]

And it's helped.

[Sean]

It's helped. Yeah. It's expelled whatever was in my dreams. He's powerful.

[David]

That's amazing. Yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

What a story though, man. Wow. Russia. So it sounds like you're not going back there ever. Especially these days, all the war stuff.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's been really good. Another. And. And then intuition. Another quick story I have on intuition. That's really important. I was. I'm running my roofing company. I think it's 2016, 17. And at the time, we were. I. I was. Things were really, really tight. But I went and saved up some money to get a car. A car for my door knockers. Right. My employees.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[David]

And I bought the car, paid cash for it. I think it was like 18 grand for just a car for them to drive around. And then they had to go do some oil change or something, bring it back to the office. I go home, I come back in the morning. I was like, okay, where's the car? And it's gone. So it's stolen. So one of our company vehicles got stolen. And I was just super bummed because at the time, I was like, oh, frick, dude. We just. We gotta get things going and blah, blah, blah, blah. So we call the police and whatnot. And the cops in Hawaii, sometimes it just depends on where you're at and who you get. But it's just not one of the top priorities. I mean, you know, you get your car stolen, they make you. You do a police report. Okay, Yada, yada. So it's gone. Two months later, I'm. I'm out in a little. A little town, Waipahu, and I drive by, we're looking at roofs, and I see a car. I'm like, bro, there's my car. No way. So. Well, when the car got stolen, the. The title was in the glove box. So all the paperwork is in the glove box. They were supposed to pull it into the shop. And I was like, no way. I was like, dude, leave me here. My guy dropped me off and I called the girls. I called the girls at the office and said, hey, grab that spare key and come down or make sure this is our car. And they were like an hour away. And then I call the cops. The cops come, and the guy's like, okay, so this is the stolen car. I was like, yeah, this car's stolen. And blah, blah, blah. He's like, okay, we'll just wait here for the guy to return. And then, like, 10 minutes went by, dude. And I just had this, like, sick feeling inside. I'm like, what's going on? And I just kept getting this real strong impression to just take the car and not wait for the person and, like, not press charges. It was weird. And I was like, no, dude, I want to bust this guy. Because I went on a freaking cloak and dagger FBI mission for like, seriously like a week. I went down the block, checked every camera, like, and I could see the guy take the car. And I was like, bro, I gotta get this guy. I'm gonna bust him. I'm so pissed. It's like, bro, I'm gonna get this guy. And so here I had him. And now I'm like, do nothing. Just relax. So I told the cop, I said, hey, you know what, I don't want to press charges. Just go. And he's like, are you sure? You okay? I was like, yeah, no, I'm good. You just go. He's like, all right, whatever. So he bounces. I get the, I get, I get in the car. The title's gone. But he, the guy, the genius registered the car. So he forged the signature and registered the car. Which. And you know that the police records aren't very.

[Sean]

Wires are in Hawaii.

[David]

Yeah. To up the date. Aren't crossing. So. So anyway, I, I saw the current registration, had his address.

[Sean]

Oh gosh, I see where this is going.

[David]

So I get this strong voice like, dude, you need to go talk to this guy. And it was George something. Third, I'll leave his last name out, but. So I go out to Ewa beach and I'm like, sweaty palms pocked down the street. I'm like, dude, I'm going to see this guy that full on gank my car. So I go to knock on the door. I knock on the door and this little kid answers. And they got this black metal screen and I could see someone behind him. And I said, hey, is George in? And she's just like looking at me, this little kid, like she's seen a ghost. Like, who's this? How guy, white guy, sitting on my, you know, little local family, like looking at me like, who is this dude? And I ask again, and then again. And then she runs and talks this other kid and then this, this young like 16 year old kid comes to the door reluctantly and. And he says, I'm George. And I said, hey George, can you come out and talk to me for a minute? Why? And then I just said, you know, I had this car situation. He's like, oh. He's like, the car. He's like, that's my dad, I'm George Jr. And that's George Senior. I was like, okay, cool. And I'm talking to him for a minute and he had a backpack on and like his stuff and he was all sketched out and I guess he was just about to go on the run. Well, he Actually was on the run. So I found out. Just sitting there talking to him, because I'm asking questions. I found out that he just broke out of his youth facility, and he was coming home to get clothes to run away.

[Sean]

Wow.

[David]

And me and him just hit it off. Really. I sat down with him on the grass right by the retaining wall, and we sat there for 30 minutes, and I told my whole life story. And here's this kid in tears, like, not knowing what to do. He's been through it. And I just like, man, it's okay to go back and finish your program. I want you to know, you know? And we just hit it off. And so I'm sitting here thinking I'm gonna bust the guy that stole my car. I'm wanting to know why my intuition's telling me not to press charges. And then I'm sitting here with this kid who I was, where he was at, and now I'm able to help him, you know? And it was just incredible. And then, right then, all these cops show up, his case worker, and he has his stuff with him, and he didn't even run. He walked straight to his case worker, right into the car, and headed back to his program. Then the grandma shows up. And I told the grandma, I told her what was happening, and she loses it. She's like, I knew he didn't buy that car. That's my son. I knew. She said, please. He's been in prison for 10 years. He just got out.

[Sean]

Damn. At 16.

[David]

No, the dad.

[Sean]

Oh, the dad.

[David]

So the dad that stole the car, the kids, the kid goes off. Then the grandma. I told her, I said, hey, my car got stolen. Like, is there any way you guys can get me the title? Because the registration is a glove box, but I need a title. I want the title in my car. And so she just said, that's my grandson's father. I've been raising my grandchildren, and the dad just got out of prison. And she's just begging me not to press charges. Look, I'm not here to press charges. Just tell him God loves him and make some changes. But can you sign my title? She's like, no problem. So she runs in the house, brings it back to me, signed it, you know, signed the title, gave it to me, and off I was. But, I mean, there's just no way in a million years that you get that. So we have those feelings of intuition that kind of break common sense sometimes. And so that's one thing I've really tried to exercise over the years, is listening to the whisper, the inner spirit inside you and try to listen to that whisper in the wind.

[Sean]

That's powerful. So, yeah, sometimes when you react to your emotions, it gets destructive, right?

[David]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

When you let your emotions lead you

[David]

100 and when you get pissed off, three huge breath holds. That's, that's like one thing I've been doing right now. As I get upset, if I'm feeling myself getting upset, it's just huge breath holds like you're gonna be held underwater. Just let yourself go lightheaded and exhale. Do that three times and you, you, you won't not.

[Sean]

I do that with Wim Hof. Similar.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

That stuff works though.

[David]

So that's it, man. That's my B7 becoming seven. I love it. I'm on a mission now because I've been doing roofing for all these years. I'm just about to exit. I'll be. I'll be exiting in a couple years. And my next mission is life is to just travel around this country, in this world and trying to shed. Shed light on how to be superhuman. What's cool about B7 is all of us have brain tracks from thousands of years. Sean. So that's how you memorize things. You memorize things by attaching a brain track to a principle or a name or anything you want to memorize. And so because all of us already have Monday through Sunday. Absolutely tattooed in our brains as brain tracks. The minute an individual truly lives, B7 and attaches each one of these principles, their life will be so much better. It is the most powerful personal development tool that I have ever come across. Because how many, how many, how many places have you. Four steps to this, five steps to that. But do they tell you exactly when to apply those intentions and have those intentions and do they come into sync with thousand year old brain tracks?

[Sean]

No.

[David]

So that's what's so remarkable about this, is it really taps into all the personal development world. But then it's never ending. You're always getting better and you're on this incredible. It's a rhythm. Bob Marley was here. What would he call it? A rhythm.

[Sean]

Yeah. Legend.

[David]

So, yeah, that's great.

[Sean]

You're a great storyteller, man. We'll link your book in the video. Anything else you want to close off with here, just.

[David]

You can go to the website becoming seven.com or our IG handle, which is become seven official. And yeah, look forward any stories, anyone who reads the book and like comments or. I'm going to be doing a thing where I'm going to be bringing someone out to Hawaii to hang out for a couple days and pay for them to come. And I'm just looking for the. The coolest story behind Living the principles of B7. And, yeah, they can. They can submit their [e-mail] and, yeah, we're going to have someone come out to Hawaii for a few days and hang out with me. Go. Go shark diving and surfing. If they want to surf big waves, we can. We can set that up, too. You should come.

[Sean]

I'll try. I've never been surfing.

[David]

No, you.

[Sean]

I could stand on a skateboard, so I don't know if I'd be good,

[David]

but we'll go diving.

[Sean]

Oh, I've done scuba diving. Is that what it's called?

[David]

Well, yeah, we.

[Sean]

Snorkeling?

[David]

Yeah, yeah, it's snorkeling. Yeah, yeah, we'll take you shark diving.

[Sean]

Shark diving?

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Damn, that's wild.

[David]

They're Galapagos, so they're really cool. You won't go like the Tiger Years, though. They'll lop your leg off. That makes sense.

[Sean]

Yeah. Well, dude, I'll see you in Hawaii, I guess.

[David]

Right on.

[Sean]

All right.

[David]

Thanks for having me.

[Sean]

Yeah. Check them out, guys. Peace.

[David]

Yeah.

[Sean]

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