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- [00:00]
Farha Khalidi
Of him.
- [00:01]
Jake Shields
You gotta admit, objectively, Andrew Wilson is good at debating.
- [00:06]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, he is. But I guess I just don't see the value in being good at debating if you're spreading something. That sucks, because I feel like the whole point of debate is it's. It's a means to an end. I think if you put Andrew Wilson on a polygraph, I think he's 100% in it for, like, the blood sport, really.
- [00:28]
Jake Shields
Okay, guys, got Farha here today. I saw her on a debate and reached out to her to come on. Thanks for coming on.
- [00:33]
Farha Khalidi
Thanks for having me.
- [00:34]
Jake Shields
Good debate with Jake Shields.
- [00:37]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. Who do you think won?
- [00:38]
Jake Shields
Yeah, you asked me that. I didn't have a good answer. I felt like with debates, it's hard unless there's a clear winner.
- [00:45]
Farha Khalidi
I wasn't. If I wasn't a clear winner against Jake Shields, that's a skill issue. He was saying women shouldn't vote.
- [00:49]
Jake Shields
Yeah, well, that was a strong stance. But you changed his opinion a little bit. It seemed like.
- [00:54]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. He ended up choosing genius women over the bottom rank of intelligence men.
- [00:58]
Jake Shields
Right.
- [00:58]
Farha Khalidi
Which is a while, but yeah, it's a fair point.
- [01:00]
Jake Shields
Right?
- [01:00]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah.
- [01:01]
Jake Shields
You know, intelligence should matter when it comes to voting.
- [01:03]
Farha Khalidi
Like, I don't think it has to, but if he's going to say women shouldn't vote because they're unintelligent, then I'm going to, like, press him on that. But I don't think you have to be smart to vote, you know?
- [01:11]
Jake Shields
Yeah. Have you always been into politics?
- [01:15]
Farha Khalidi
A little bit, yeah. I feel like the past few years I've leaned more into, like, the feminism red pill stuff kind of by accident. Kind of, like went on fresh and fit, like, two years ago and then went down that pipeline. I got, like, addicted to types of conversations.
- [01:26]
Jake Shields
Right.
- [01:27]
Farha Khalidi
I mean, I'm. Yeah, I've always been interested in politics, I guess, but I wasted, I want to say, the past few years talking about, like, body count and the 19th with these red pillars, but yeah, yeah.
- [01:36]
Jake Shields
When the feminist movement was, like, popping off, is that where you kind of just stood out and built your brand?
- [01:42]
Farha Khalidi
I've always been super feminist. Like, I used to write for, like, a feminist magazine in, like, high school and college and stuff like that. So it's. It's just always kind of been my thing. Um, and then I kind of, like, built my TikTok up before I ever did any red pill shows, doing, like, skits and comedy. And a lot of it was, I guess, rooted in, like, feminism and just being a little bit progressive. I guess. And then when the Red pill stuff started blowing up, it kind of just fit perfectly with my niche because I would do, like, skits, kind of, like, making fun of alpha type of guys and stuff. But. Yeah.
- [02:11]
Jake Shields
Did you feel like the feminism movement ever got out of hand? Like it got too crazy?
- [02:16]
Farha Khalidi
No.
- [02:16]
Jake Shields
Really?
- [02:17]
Farha Khalidi
No, not at all.
- [02:18]
Jake Shields
Wow. Because there's a lot of people that theorize red pill kind of spawned off of the feminism movement.
- [02:24]
Farha Khalidi
They can say that for sure. I don't subscribe to that at all. I mean, they have yet to say a single thing that feminism has done wrong. They'll say feminism's gone too far because, for instance, educated women are filing for divorce more. And I'm like, if your stance is that the smarter someone is and then they make a decision, that that decision's a bad decision, I would say that's a pretty dumb premise. Like, obviously, smarter people make smarter decisions, and if they're leaving bad relationships, that's, uh, you know what I mean? That's on the men in that relationship. But I don't know if. I don't know. Do you have strong opinions on feminism?
- [02:54]
Jake Shields
I wouldn't say strong. I just hear both sides. I hear from the Red Pill saying that, like, the feminism movement just got crazy and that, like, one out of 15 women are on Only fans now. All these crazy, like, sayings, you know?
- [03:07]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't even see that as feminism, in my opinion. Like, a lot of feminists, actually, when you look at, like, who was protesting, like, long before OnlyFans, it was mostly feminist. Like, it was feminists that were corralling, like, 2 million signatures to get things like ban, because there was so much, like, child. What words I can say. You can sense it.
- [03:25]
Jake Shields
We'll put some corn emojis up there.
- [03:26]
Farha Khalidi
Okay. Child sex trafficking, stuff like that. It was feminists who were, like, the sole protesters of it, versus men were actually more likely to morally approve. They were more likely to obviously be subscribers of things like Playboy. But now when OnlyFans drop, now you have all these droves of men who are pretending like, they're anti sex work. But what I feel like they're really against is just women, like, deriving clout out of sex work. Because, again, these were men who were totally okay with things like Pornhub. Like, in 2020, like, New York Times dropped this, like, groundbreaking expose called the Children of pornhub, which detailed these countless stories of, like, minors being, like, trafficked, drugged on camera and all that. And there was not a single drop in male viewership after this groundbreaking expose. We did not see any like male driven anti collectives like bubbling up in the wake of this expose. Right? Like none of them cared. Like feminists were the only ones who were anti for many reasons. One, they thought it was unfair to your relationship to watch. Two, they thought it's unfair to the women. Like they cited all the like really horrible exploitative working conditions of and prostitutes and strippers. They cited the fact that like the average age a girl goes into street prostitution is literally age 12 and one out of five American men have bought sex. Right? So it was mostly feminists who are against this. They cite the fact that most strippers have like endured verbal or physical abuse and like 60% of men have been to a strip club. They cite the fact that you know over half of women and being trafficked. And again, 60% of American men in the last month have watched mostly women who cared. But now because of only fans, you see all these men pretending to take a moral stance. But and they'll start, they'll talk about things like NoFap.
- [05:00]
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- [06:29]
Farha Khalidi
But their only moral stance against OnlyFans is just that they feel like they're being tempted to stray and waste their time. Versus they literally turned a blind eye to actual exploitation, to actual trafficking. But now, for instance, two years ago I did a debate with they partnered me with destiny against these two OnlyFans critics to do a debate called is OnlyFans the economic exploitation of lonely men. And I just thought it was so rich that the first time that men seem interested in talking about the intersection of sex work and exploitation is the idea that we're exploiting the probably married man who's like swiping his credit card every night to see like Belle Delphine get naked or like shower in cosplay or whatever. But they weren't interested again in those discussions of sex work and exploitation when it came to like the fucking minors being trafficked into prostitution and stuff. So that's why it's hard for me to take seriously. And yeah, when I think of like true anti sex work ethics, I 100% think of feminists. I don't think of red pill because again, their only moral gripe with OnlyFans is just that they feel like it's not a good use of time for men. And if that's the extent of their empathy, then I don't know, I wouldn't consider that a progressive stance. Yeah, sorry, I know that was a long answer.
- [07:33]
Jake Shields
No, no, that's interesting. So you said most feminists are not in favor of porn industry, right?
- [07:38]
Farha Khalidi
I would say so. Like they're, they're pro sex worker, but they're anti sex work generally versus with red pill. It's the exact opposite. They're pro sex work, but they're anti sex worker. Cause again, all these men, they're promoting promiscuity to their male audiences. They're saying things like, you should rack up a 50 body count before getting into a relationship because you need to like learn women. So these aren't like people who are purporting like traditional values, but it was feminists who cited it. Feminists obviously defend things like OnlyFans because they know that these girls are just being scapegoated for guys just wanting to shit on them out of jealousy for the fact that they're, like, buying houses and stuff. But, yeah, I wouldn't see onlyfans as, like, a consequence of feminism going too far. I would see onlyfans as a consequence of. Of, like, a rapacious industry in which women are, like I said, forced into things. Like, and so women are gonna be like, okay, well, if, you know, this industry is gonna exist regardless and I'm gonna be sexualized regardless, then, you know, I'm gonna profit off of it. But I would see that more if someone's anti onlyfans. I think they should 100% point the finger at anti feminism, because I would say anti feminism is what prompted, again, industry. Like, Hugh Hefner is often credited with, like, marshaling and, like, the sexual revolution and stuff with Playboy, and feminists hated him. Like, he literally had an internal memo leaked where he was pretty much like, feminists are a natural enemy. Like, we need to destroy them. So by his own admission, like the father of the sexual revolution, if you want to call him that, he was anti feminist.
- [08:57]
Jake Shields
You know, why did feminists hate Hugh Hefner?
- [09:01]
Farha Khalidi
They just felt like Playboy was objectifying towards women. They thought it painted women and, you know, like an adverse light and in a two dimensional light.
- [09:09]
Jake Shields
Wouldn't you say that about onlyfans girls? Oh, too.
- [09:14]
Farha Khalidi
To be honest with you, not as much. Like, I would say, out of all the iterations of sex work, I feel like onlyfans is the most humanizing. Like, when I, like, I categorize something like Hooters. What.
- [09:24]
Jake Shields
What a statement. I'm just processing that.
- [09:26]
Farha Khalidi
Well, let me. Let me convince you. Out of all the sex work, and I use sex work very, very loosely. So when I say sex work, I include things like hooters. Like, some people are like, oh, that's not sex work.
- [09:35]
Jake Shields
I'm like, rip to hooters. They just close down and then bankruptcy. Yeah, okay, but no, I know you meant back in the day that was. I would consider that sex work.
- [09:43]
Farha Khalidi
I would too. I would say that's more dehumanizing because those women are playing a role, right? They're wearing a costume. They're not really showing their personality. They're playing a role. A stripper's not even using her real name. She's again playing a role versus the OnlyFans girl. Typically, you subscribe to a girl because you already know them. Like, someone like me. You've already seen me on, like, TikTok.
- [10:00]
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- [10:50]
Jake Shields
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- [10:54]
Farha Khalidi
Talker Podcast like you're you want to see Farha specifically do acts on camera. Is that necessarily progressive? Not. Not really. But I think that's way more progressive than just going to Hooters and being like, I'm just in the mood to see like hot blonde with tits today. I'm just going to go to strip club because I want to see a brunette today. Or I'm going to go to a brothel and I'm specifically seek out like a 18 to 24 year old, you know, redhead today. Like I think that's way more dehumanizing than being like, oh, like I find this girl Farah hot on TikTok. Like I'm going to go look at her only fans. Right? Would you agree with that?
- [11:23]
Jake Shields
Yeah, yeah. From a business point of view, I like it actually. Because you have more control.
- [11:27]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, exactly. Like people talk about how only fans is degrading. I'm like, I'm not gonna argue it's empowering. Right? I don't think it has to be. But it's also like out of all the iterations of sex work, this is the only one where you can like turn down a client for being too pushy and being mean to you.
- [11:43]
Jake Shields
Right.
- [11:43]
Farha Khalidi
Like some feminists still criticize only fans. Like Catherine McKinnon is a super big feminist. She talks about how things like and sexual assault are evidence that like she's pretty extreme. That like the invention of gender is just a hierarchy. Whatever she criticizes onlyfans and says is basically just a pimp. Like a modern pimp. Since it takes 20%, I could see your Argument, Argument. But in the day, this is the only pimp that won't beat you for, like, turning down anal from a client. Like, this is the only pimp that won't to literally break you in as a good worker. You know what I mean? So that's why it's hard for me to really, like, buy into criticisms of OnlyFans because again, it's coming from the gender. That is the principle. Like, consumer of sex work. Again, like 80% of them consume sex works. That's why it's hard for me to like, entertain any, like, moral grandstanding from them on it.
- [12:27]
Jake Shields
Right. I mean, yeah, you'll go on a Red Bull podcast and then you'll get more subscribers. So it's kind of ironic, right? It's like these guys are hating, but they're also paying you that.
- [12:35]
Farha Khalidi
And then the very hosts like, still ask out these OnlyFans girls that they bring on to like dinner and stuff, you know? But yeah.
- [12:41]
Jake Shields
Did that happen to you on the whatever podcast?
- [12:44]
Farha Khalidi
That's very specific.
- [12:45]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I know.
- [12:46]
Farha Khalidi
No.
- [12:47]
Jake Shields
Brian didn't hit you up after?
- [12:48]
Farha Khalidi
No, he's welcome to.
- [12:50]
Jake Shields
They just invited me on. I was like, I've heard some interesting things. So it's like an eight hour show, right?
- [12:55]
Farha Khalidi
It gets longer every time I go on. Like, I feel like the first time I went on it was like four hours or three hours. Now I think they're doing like eight hour episodes. Yeah.
- [13:03]
Jake Shields
Plus you got to drive an hour because it's in the middle of nowhere.
- [13:05]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. I think I'm doing two 1v1s back to back this Saturday.
- [13:08]
Jake Shields
Oh, yeah.
- [13:08]
Farha Khalidi
On it. Yeah.
- [13:09]
Jake Shields
Well, this will come out after. So can you reveal who you're debating?
- [13:13]
Farha Khalidi
Um, it's supposed to be a guy named Jim Bob and then a guy named. I don't know who these people are. And a guy named Jim Dreyer. There's like a new crop of just like Andrew Wilson wannabes who think that he's like the fucking goats and now there's all these guys who are just copycats basically of him.
- [13:26]
Jake Shields
You gotta admit, objectively, Andrew Wilson is good at debating.
- [13:30]
Farha Khalidi
Um, yeah, he is. But I guess I just don't see the value in being good at debating if you're spreading something. That sucks because I feel like the whole point of debate is it's a means to an end. It's a tool to try and push forward an ideology you actually believe in and think is good for society. I think if you put Andrew Wilson on a polygraph, I think he's 100% in it for the blood sport.
- [13:53]
Jake Shields
Really?
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Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I mean he even has in his bio like bloodsports debater. So yeah, he's a good debater, but he also is in it just for the sake of debate, in my opinion.
- [14:02]
Jake Shields
So you don't think he actually believes what he's debating on when it comes to like dating and relationships?
- [14:08]
Farha Khalidi
No, of course not. Because one, he again like purports traditional values. His I'm not gonna shit on his personal relationships, but let's just say like his current family situation isn't the most traditional. The other thing is he'll go on a podcast like Brian's and he's a TradCon, right? Or like he calls himself like a paleo Christ con, like further back than tradcon, like paleo. And at the same time he doesn't offer any pushback really. Maybe he does in like sprinkles. To someone like Brian who says like, you shouldn't get married, like marriage is a trap, like women are temptresses, he doesn't really offer much pushback. And so he'll co sign on to the pushback of the Onlyfans girls. And it's like, I'm sorry, which person in this arrangement has more sway over the general public? Brian, who has 4 million subscribers and is telling his audience that women are like temper temptresses, marriage is a trap. Or this single like college girl that they found off the street who's saying something like, yeah, like my body counts eight. Like if you're actually a TradCon, which party like deserves more pushback in that moment for like not aligning with your values, you know what I mean? Or he constantly like glazes people like Andrew Tate on Twitter and he's just like, we need to not turn on Andrew Tate. We've let feminists get too far. So I'm just like, you're a TradCon and yet you're co signing on to like Andrew Tate. But that's the thing with a lot of these traditionalists, as I feel like tradcon is honestly just red pill in sheep's clothing. Because you'll see people like Candace Owens who are again, like, they'll shit on people like Kim Kardashians, but then they'll dick ride Kanye West. Or she'll like, you know, again, simp for fresh and fit. Like she went on his show and I don't think she offered them any pushback. And again she just gives pushback to the sex workers and she went on Brian show. I don't think maybe, like, there'll be one clip of someone like Michael Nol saying to Brian, like, oh, no, you should get married for sure. But they'll say in the more of, like, a buddy, buddy way, not in the same, like, torture, humiliation, ritual way that they target onto, like, the actual girls on the panel, you know, so it's like, even Ben Shapiro has said, like, yeah, like, with Andrew Tate, like, I agree with his diagnoses, but I disagree with his prescriptions. I'm like, how could you agree with his diagnoses? Like, he said, like, his diagnoses in themselves are like gender hierarchy. And he says, you know, women are like this. You know, they want a man who's like this. They're happier when they submit and, you know, being at home and stuff. So either, like, they're not being honest about what they actually believe, or. Or they're just like. I don't know, what's your opinion on it?
- [16:25]
Jake Shields
On marriage or just, like, dating in general? Marriage? I mean, I still. It's tough. You see, a lot of guys talk about the negatives of it. Paul Pierce just said, marriage isn't worth it for most men. You got guys like Tate saying, it's not worth it for the man. So from a man point of view, I could see that argument when you have a lot of resources. But I still believe in it. I mean, I'm getting married in a few months.
- [16:47]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, nice. Congrats.
- [16:48]
Jake Shields
Been together for eight years, so I don't know. I think it's case by case. I think a lot of people try to give this broad advice, but everyone's situation is different. Like, look at you. Like, you're balling, you're making a ton of money. Marriage for use. You're not going to be able to relate to the average girl.
- [17:02]
Farha Khalidi
What do you mean? Like, you're saying I shouldn't get married?
- [17:04]
Jake Shields
No, I'm saying in the sense of, like, you're gonna have a lot of resources and money and stuff when you get married.
- [17:08]
Farha Khalidi
Right.
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Jake Shields
The average girl is not in that situation. You know what I mean? It's a different dynamic, I think.
- [17:13]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. I guess I just don't agree with their rhetoric that, like, marriage is a trap for men. It just makes no sense when you look at the statistics. Marriage confers a literal survival benefit to men. Married men literally live longer than unmarried men. A divorced man is in the highest bracket for things like suicide, depression, drug abuse and stuff. But they want to pretty much instill. They want to instill so much fear into women. By being like, if you don't get married, the second half of your life is over. And I feel like it's such a projection because I'm like, that's actually not true. Like, unmarried women in their 60s actually has the lowest depressive rate out of women who are, you know, married or otherwise married. And that's because, like, a lot of these women, they're showing up, like, most of the household work, even if they're still like the primary breadwinners. So they're doing most of the work. Like, men in marriages actually do less housework than when they were single. Because when they're single, they're like, you know, they have to clean up after themselves. But now when they're married, they basically have, like, a mom that they fuck. As vulgar as that sounds, that's basically what it is. So I think it's just funny that, you know, red pill and, like, trad cons want to act as if marriage is. I'm not saying marriage is a bad deal for women, but I just think it's funny to look at the fact that it literally increases your longevity as a man. And this is depressing. Reversely, sometimes it decreases your longevity as a woman because not necessarily that it's like, depressing or bad, but it's like, because you're doing so much work, you're taking care of not just your children, but basically now you're like, you know, your son of a husband and stuff. So I don't know. I just think it's dishonest or. I don't think it's dishonest. Yeah, I think it's, like, very strategic for them to try and now, like, reverse psychology women into being like, no, see, like, you'd be so lucky to get married. Like, no one's going to marry you when it's like, that's always been the best deal for men, in my opinion.
- [18:56]
Jake Shields
I think, yeah, there's a lot of projecting because you see these men that have a massive, huge net worth, they get divorced and they lose half. So then you'll see these articles about Jeff Bezos losing $50 billion. And then I think that scares a lot of guys. And then.
- [19:07]
Farha Khalidi
Because they're going to be in that situation.
- [19:09]
Jake Shields
Well, just like you'll see Myron talking about it, like, you'll lose half your money or whatever. Don't get married. Stuff like that.
- [19:15]
Farha Khalidi
It's just so funny because didn't she, like, help him build that company and then he wittingly had an affair and left her, like, in what Universe, Is he the victim?
- [19:23]
Jake Shields
They had a prenup too, I think. But since he cheated, it was no.
- [19:27]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. I just think it's funny that people like think the sob story there is like the male billionaire adulterer who like co built this company with his like loving and faithful wife. I'm assuming she was faithful, but yeah.
- [19:37]
Jake Shields
So you're optimistic about marriage though for yourself?
- [19:41]
Farha Khalidi
It depends. I definitely wouldn't get married for the sake of it because I think like a bad marriage or someone who doesn't meet your value system or doesn't respect you, I do think is more disadvantageous for a woman versus like a man. Even with an average marriage with a woman like he doesn't love that much, it's still good for him. Right. Because he gets that like you know, live in bang maid mom and stuff. Versus for a woman. I feel like it is more taxing and draining to be married to a guy. You know, there's a reason that women are more likely to find file for divorce. That's because if you're married to a guy who doesn't respect you, he's constantly like dismissing you having affairs. Like I think David Buss found that like across cultures like 60 of men commit adultery.
- [20:17]
Jake Shields
Really?
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Farha Khalidi
Yeah.
- [20:18]
Jake Shields
Holy crap. Yeah, that's way higher than I thought.
- [20:20]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I mean it's across cultures so maybe in certain cultures it's, it's higher. Like obviously in areas where gender norms are more extreme, like you know, it's higher and stuff.
- [20:27]
Jake Shields
I wonder how they conducted that study too.
- [20:30]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I'm not sure because you would assume a lot of guys would lie.
- [20:33]
Jake Shields
Yeah, that's what I mean. So it could be even higher.
- [20:36]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, that's the depressing part. So yeah, I guess my point is I don't think marriage is bad for women. I just think for men it's better to be in an average marriage, in a lackluster marriage than no marriage statistically versus for a woman. I would say it's generally better for your well being and mental health to be in a marriage where the person actually respects you and matches your values. And you can test that before getting married versus entering an average marriage because I think that's going to be more disadvantageous to you as a woman.
- [21:04]
Jake Shields
Makes sense. You see a lot of Red Bull guys saying don't date women that have kids from a prior relationship. What do you think about that?
- [21:11]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I feel like Andrew Wilson's one of those guys. But he did it, you know. Yeah, I don't have much of a. I could see if they have the preference for that. But I think acting as if those women are like a cautionary tale is kind of weird because I don't feel like it's a woman's fault if she gets, like, abandoned and doesn't really make any sense because a lot of that comes from the right. And these are guys who literally shame women for being single issue voters and being pro abortion. And I'm like, isn't a single mother a woman who by your value system chose life over an abortion? So why are you now penalizing her against that in the dating market? Like, aren't you literally now incentivizing women to think, like, go get an abortion, otherwise you're going to become like a dating pariah, you know? So. I don't know. I think it's inconsistent.
- [21:56]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I don't know how I feel on that one too, honestly.
- [21:59]
Farha Khalidi
Would you date? I guess it's weird to think about because you're in a relationship probably.
- [22:02]
Jake Shields
I wouldn't. It wouldn't be my preference, like you said. Yeah, but if I really like the girl, I guess I would look past it. I mean, my best friend just is about to get married to someone who had a kid from a previous relationship and they're. They're really happy together, so.
- [22:15]
Farha Khalidi
So I feel like it wouldn't be my preference to like, date a guy who's already been married or have a kid. Like, you know, if I was like, swiping on Tinder.
- [22:21]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [22:21]
Farha Khalidi
You know, obviously I wouldn't select for it, but if I met a guy and clicked, like, I'd probably look past it.
- [22:26]
Jake Shields
Are you on the apps? The dating apps?
- [22:27]
Farha Khalidi
I'm banned off Tinder and Bumble. I don't know why. I've been banned for, like eight years.
- [22:31]
Jake Shields
Do they ban off girls? Is that how it works?
- [22:34]
Farha Khalidi
I don't know if they do. They might, but this was, like, years before I ever started off. Like, I was banned in college. I don't know why. I think I was. I was super into, like, nagging when I was in college. Like, where you're just mean to someone as a form of flirting. Like, I was just super aggressive, flirtatiously. And when I was like 18, so I feel like guys would just report me for being too mean. But it's like, that's my version of flirting, which is, like bullying. And I think. I don't know what I said. I would get drunk and just respond to people. I thought I was killing it. I thought I was a pickup artist and I would just get reported over and over. So I'm banned there for life. And then hinge, I do use. Hinge is fine. Yeah. I date off Instagram, which sounds like.
- [23:10]
Jake Shields
Instagram's pretty much a dating app at this point.
- [23:12]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I would agree.
- [23:13]
Jake Shields
Yeah. If I'm looking not for dating, but just to work with someone, I'll check out their Instagram.
- [23:17]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I do agree with Red Pill on that, where they're like, yeah, Instagram is basically like a dating app at that point. And I don't think it's like. Like, when Red Pill says, like, they wouldn't want to date a girl who's still. While they're in a relationship, like, posting provocative things online, I actually don't think that's controlling. I'm like, yeah, I could see that. Because Instagram's basically like having a Tinder.
- [23:34]
Jake Shields
Yeah. You know, what are you looking for when. When a guy messages you, like, and you check out their profile? Like, what are some. Some green flags?
- [23:41]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, follower count. No, not really. I don't like vanity in guys. So if a guy is, like, constantly trying to, like, look good and stuff, I just feel like it's weird. I went on a reality dating show over the summer, actually.
- [23:58]
Jake Shields
Oh, yeah.
- [23:59]
Farha Khalidi
I'm probably not supposed to talk about it. I signed an NDA. But it's fine.
- [24:02]
Jake Shields
We don't have to drop the name of it.
- [24:03]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. As far as they know, I went on multiple. So I went on one over the summer, and I remember, like, asking my roommate on the show, I was like, what percent of you is here for, like, content? And what percent of you is here for, like, dating? Because I went on solely for content, and she was like, what do you mean? Like, I'm here to find the love of my life. And I'm like, you want to date a guy who wants, like, be famous for being famous? Like, I think it's already kind of a turn off enough if a guy wants to be, like, a famous actor or musician. But at least there it's like, maybe he's just really passionate about his craft. Like, maybe it's not just about the validation. Like, maybe he just really loves music and loves, you know, filmmaking and stuff. Maybe the reality show. I'm like, these are guys who literally just want to get, like, a million followers and then be, like, a male socialite, which, in my opinion, is like.
- [24:43]
Jake Shields
Like a Harry Jowsey or whatever.
- [24:44]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. And in my opinion, that's, like, as unattractive as it gets. So, yeah, I would. I would look for a guy who doesn't have like a super vain.
- [24:52]
Jake Shields
So you want to low a low key guy then, not like a social media influencer.
- [24:56]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, Unless their social media is like dedicated to some craft. Like if they're like a comedian or something, you know, they're like artistic in some way, then that's cool. But otherwise like, yeah, I just really, really, really like down to earth guys.
- [25:08]
Jake Shields
What if they made way less money than you?
- [25:11]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I actually don't care at all. Yeah, the main thing I like is if they're ambitious. So I was seeing a guy at some point who like, this is such an extreme example and I feel like people are gonna be like, that doesn't count. Like I was seeing this guy who like holds this like world championship in a mixed martial art. But for instance, you don't necessarily get a ton of money from that. Right. But every day he's like working and training for more competitions and I thought that was like super hot and cool. But I made a lot more money than him just by the nature of my work. And he didn't make much off it, but I still thought it was cool that he's like ambitious and a winner. But for me, being a winner doesn't have to line up with like you make this amount of figures off it.
- [25:49]
Jake Shields
You know, I could see that. Yeah, as long as they have something to work towards. Yeah, yeah, I'm the same way in that regard. Do they have to be vegan? Because I know you're vegan.
- [25:59]
Farha Khalidi
I'm vegetarian. I should go vegan. But no, they don't have to be. But I will say with my ex boyfriend of like four years, I didn't tell him to go vegetarian. But my thing is I've been vegetarian since I was really little to the point where I kind of have a repulsion to meat. So let's say we just went out to dinner and he just had a steak or something, or a burger. I would just ask him, oh, can you brush your teeth and mouthwash before we make out and stuff. So because that was so routine and he was so horny, he went vegetarian. So he was vegetarian. I don't know if he still is, but he was vegetarian for like at that point, like all four years of a relationship. But again, I never asked him and it wasn't like I expected him to, but he just did it for convenience, I guess.
- [26:42]
Jake Shields
Yeah, they'll meet for you. He really cared about you or he.
- [26:44]
Farha Khalidi
Was really like to make out.
- [26:46]
Jake Shields
I don't know what ended that one. Was it your of career?
- [26:51]
Farha Khalidi
No, it Ended before out of respect to him. I don't want to get too much into it, but I would just say that that was my first ever relationship. Like I came straight out of an all girls school and I had only kissed one person before I met him at that point. So like he was like, I guess like my college sweetheart. But it was just like a very like youthful relation. Like it was, it was very much like a puppy love, you know?
- [27:17]
Jake Shields
I can see that.
- [27:17]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, yeah.
- [27:18]
Jake Shields
All girls school. Wow. That is so your whole life. All girls school or not my whole.
- [27:23]
Farha Khalidi
Life, just high school. I went to this all girls boarding school. A lot of girls were like, I still wear my class ring. A lot of girls were like gay for the stay and stuff. I just went to one of their weddings a few days ago. But yeah, I really liked it. I actually recommend it. Really I do. Yeah. Because after that I went to a co ed school and I feel like seeing the difference in how like girls who go to single sex schools versus co ed schools behave, it's like night and day. Like I feel like when you go to a single sex school you can really focus on your accomplishment, accomplishments, because your sole sense of validation comes from like academic achievements. Whereas I feel like when you go to a public school, your sense of being popular comes from like how hot you are, like what type of guy you're dating and stuff. Versus our school obviously wasn't like that. So it's like the cool people were the ones who are doing like stem cell research and like Africa and stuff. And I feel like that's a way better validation system while you're developing adolescent than public schools.
- [28:12]
Jake Shields
Wow. I've never heard that argument. But you know what, I actually agree with that.
- [28:16]
Farha Khalidi
If you have a daughter, you should send her to single sex school.
- [28:18]
Jake Shields
I wonder if it's the same mindset with all male schools.
- [28:22]
Farha Khalidi
I feel like they just end up fucking each other. Honestly, I feel like they, they just, they'll. Yeah. I don't know if men can turn off their horniness in the same way.
- [28:29]
Jake Shields
I mean, you're not wrong. In prison, you see it.
- [28:31]
Farha Khalidi
Exactly.
- [28:32]
Jake Shields
So yeah. Geez. Yeah. This is very interesting stuff.
- [28:37]
Farha Khalidi
I'm talking too fast, by the way.
- [28:38]
Jake Shields
You could tell me. No, no, no, you're good. So being, being Indian, are you full Indian?
- [28:42]
Farha Khalidi
I'm also Saudi.
- [28:43]
Jake Shields
Saudi. Okay. But how did that community react to the of stuff? Because that's like, because I'm half Asian, I could kind of relate to that.
- [28:51]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, I definitely had some girls from my Muzchard like unfollow me who I was really good friends with, which is fine. Like, feel like they're complicit in sinning and like it's haram if they follow me, which is totally fine. That community in general, I don't know, I never clicked a ton with people in the masjid because even way before of, because my main thing is going to sound ironic considering how judgmental I probably come off. I really don't like judgmental people. Like if you're hanging out with, like, not all Muslim girls are like this, but maybe just the ones I grew up with. I remember being like 14 and being at the masjid with a few of my like friends there and they were talking about how their American neighbor who's 30 years old and married is a slut because she's having sex with her husband to try to get pregnant. And I was like, why is that slutty? And they were like, because she's having sex. I'm like, she's married and trying to have a baby. Like, what do you think your parents did? And she was like, muslim women don't have sex to get pregnant. Like, you're a pervert.
- [29:47]
Jake Shields
What?
- [29:47]
Farha Khalidi
And this girl was 14. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I was like, yes, your parents had sex to have you. And they were like, you need to go to an insane asylum. Like you don't know what you're saying. And I was like, bro, ask your older sister. Sister. And they came back the next week and they were like, yeah, so I talked to my sister and like my parents did have sex. Yes, but they, it was halal. Like they cut a hole in my mom's jeans. So like she didn't get naked or anything. I was like, I don't even believe that. But I don't know. I think that gives you good insight into like one, a lot of the ignorance in these like super religious communities. And then two, like the type of judgment that they like wittingly pass on to other people to just call this 30 year old married woman a slut, you know, with no basis for it. And then yeah, you'll just be hanging out sometimes with these like traditional, not necessarily just Muslim girls. Could be Christian, I guess, and they'll just be like judging American girls for like the way they're dressing and stuff. I just feel like that's a very like jaded way to live life, you know?
- [30:39]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I saw a lot of slut shaming in high school and college. I went to public school and like, if a Girl slept with like, maybe one or two guys, they would get called out the next day. Even one or maybe maybe like two or three. But yeah, two or three, within a year they would get called. That for sure.
- [30:53]
Farha Khalidi
Called out in what way? Like, what does that look like?
- [30:54]
Jake Shields
Like, guys would just talk shit like, oh, that girl's a slut. She sleeps around.
- [30:58]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, that's interesting.
- [31:00]
Jake Shields
Yeah, that's pretty common.
- [31:01]
Farha Khalidi
Did you see the show Adolescence?
- [31:03]
Jake Shields
I heard of it. I didn't see it.
- [31:04]
Farha Khalidi
They kind of like touch on stuff like that. I was just curious if you thought it was realistic or not. But that's interesting. Did girls get like, bullied for it? It was more like in private. Guys would just talk to each other.
- [31:14]
Jake Shields
In private, but the private would become public because, you know, people gossip and stuff. So it would get around quick. And this was like kind of when social media was coming out. Now they get bullied on it online, which is. It spreads even faster. There was that one viral one recently where the girl got called a slut on like Yik Yak. I don't know if you saw this.
- [31:32]
Farha Khalidi
No. What happened?
- [31:33]
Jake Shields
She.
- [31:34]
Farha Khalidi
What is Yik Yak?
- [31:35]
Jake Shields
It's like an app. It used to be popping in college, but I don't know if it's still around.
- [31:39]
Farha Khalidi
I know.
- [31:39]
Jake Shields
Either way, she got called a slut. It eventually got to like, ESPN and like huge podcasts and these podcasts were calling her out for it. And then now she's suing the podcast and barstool.
- [31:49]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, was this something about like sleeping with.
- [31:53]
Jake Shields
Sleeping with a coach or something? I don't remember the exact details, but.
- [31:56]
Farha Khalidi
I feel like I might have saw. Was it some blonde girl?
- [31:58]
Jake Shields
Yeah, blonde girl.
- [31:59]
Farha Khalidi
I might have seen something pop up about it.
- [32:01]
Jake Shields
Crazy though. She's suing the podcast that like was talking about it.
- [32:05]
Farha Khalidi
We ESPN and podcast talked about some random high school girl for college, college.
- [32:10]
Jake Shields
Girl for sleeping with her coach, some shit like that.
- [32:13]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, that was like ESPN newsworthy. Is she like a famous athlete?
- [32:17]
Jake Shields
No, she was a normal college student. We gotta find the exact details, but either way, just slut shaming is like pretty normal these days.
- [32:26]
Farha Khalidi
That's so interesting.
- [32:27]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a girl in. In today's digital era. You gotta move carefully.
- [32:32]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. Or you could just fully commit. I mean, I don't recommend girls to onlyfans, but I do think like, that's also why of pisses some guys off. It's because I feel like they like when girls are coy and don't want to be called A slut. Because then it's more like. It's more sadistic if you call her a slut versus if you're, like, very open about it. I feel like it takes away the bounty.
- [32:53]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [32:54]
Farha Khalidi
You know what I mean?
- [32:54]
Jake Shields
I can see that. So you go all in on your stuff. You do full on.
- [32:59]
Farha Khalidi
Mine's not that extreme at this point in time, maybe in the future, but.
- [33:03]
Jake Shields
That'S how it starts. It's always like a little nipple picture, and then it evolves.
- [33:06]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, maybe I did it partly as, like, I guess, like, I mean, I love the money, but partly as, like, a social experiment, I guess, because I was, like, curious about it, and now it's like a great way to just kind of get attention and get on these shows, you know? I mean, as much as they hate girls, it's like, what, half of them be platforming me if I didn't have that label.
- [33:22]
Jake Shields
Yeah. What's. What do you think your end goal is with this social media stuff? Like, do you want to have your own show or.
- [33:29]
Farha Khalidi
I don't know if I want to have my own podcast. Like, right now. I've been working a lot on my YouTube channel, like, in the fall and stuff, and I've been growing it, which is like a totally different type of content. Like, that's kind of like skits and comedy and stuff. It's, like, all scripted. And then in the future, future, I'd like to just screenwrite a show and stuff. I don't really have a ton of interest in doing my own podcast necessarily. But, yeah, I've always been interested in creative writing, and I'm writing a book of essays right now about feminism. Just boring stuff. And then, wow, look at you screenwrite a show. Yeah.
- [34:02]
Jake Shields
Okay. Who do you want to debate next? Myron?
- [34:07]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, he. What was it? He challenged, like, me and my friend jasmine to, like, a 2v2 with Andrew Wilson, like, last year. He's like, it's time to pack up These clout chasing 304s like, once and for all. Like, me and Andrew Wilson versus Far and Jasmine, like, fresh is gonna moderate. And then everyone at the top comment was like, fresh moderating. Like, I gotta see that. And we were like, yeah, we're in. And, like, he just dodges it. Like, he, like, replies to half my tweets just shitting on me. But I'm, yeah, super open to debating, like, him or Andrew Wilson. I, like, flew out to Santa Barbara to debate Andrew Wilson one on one, and he canceled, like, last minute, like, after I was already in Santa Barbara. He said his wife was sick and stuff. But I've been, like, waiting for that reschedule. I'm very open to debate. Anyone, like, do I think I'm going to win? Not always, but I. I don't really have a fear of, like, looking stupid or anything, but I feel like a lot of these people do.
- [34:57]
Jake Shields
Well, yeah, a lot of girls do because their most viral clips are trying to portray a woman that way.
- [35:01]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, that's true. But also the guys. I feel like the guys, because a lot of these guys are hated, I feel like there's more of a bounty for them to look stupid. So I also feel like they're more scared sometimes of taking debates than the girls. Interesting because I feel like they expect the girls, especially girls who do of to look stupid. So if I even look, like, slightly not stupid, it's kind of a win already, you know.
- [35:20]
Jake Shields
I didn't know the guys were getting hate like that too.
- [35:23]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I mean, if they get even shit on, like a little bit by a girl, I feel like it'll go viral because so many women like, hate, you know, Myron and Brian and stuff.
- [35:31]
Jake Shields
Yeah. Does the hate ever get to you or you're kind of immune at this point?
- [35:37]
Farha Khalidi
When I first started, none of the podcast stuff, like, hey ever gets to me. When I first started my TikTok, it blew up really quickly and I was averaging like 10 million views a day.
- [35:44]
Jake Shields
Damn.
- [35:45]
Farha Khalidi
But the thing is, TikTok, I don't know if you're on TikTok, you probably are. TikTok doesn't pay.
- [35:49]
Jake Shields
No. Pays like a couple thousand a month.
- [35:50]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. So before I started taking sponsorships, it's like I was getting like 10 million views a day just to have, like, TikTok also doesn't protect IP like they say. Like, yeah, we don't protect IP the same way. Like, we don't patent, like, choreography. And you can, like, copy someone's dance. So you're pretty much having people just rip off your videos, repost them all the time, copy your scripts verbatim, shit on you all the time, shit on you to dams for, like, basically no reward in the beginning. So I'm like, okay, I gained all this face recognition, but, like, what's the point? So there I'd get, like, a little bit anxious about the hate because I was like, what's the point of doing this? Now that I've been able to, like, cement myself more in the space and like, now that I have the onlyfans, I think now that I have, like, that, like, bank account, and there is always that instant roi. It justifies the hate more. Otherwise, it's like, I feel like I'm working, like, a customer service job where I'm getting shitted on all day for free, and I'm just like, what's the point? But once you start getting that, like, money from it, it's like, okay, now this is an actual job, and I can, you know, manage my expectations. My emotions are on the cons more.
- [36:47]
Jake Shields
They call it fu. Money for a reason.
- [36:49]
Farha Khalidi
Once you.
- [36:50]
Jake Shields
Once you got that, yeah, people can talk whatever they want. Do you have a million in the bank? Then why am I listening to you?
- [36:56]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. Also, a lot of the comments are just stupid and funny. Like, they just. They just don't even make any sense. They're just like. Like, I post them. Like, they're kind of funny. Reddit comments can be more mean because they'll write essays and they'll try to dissect everything about you and, like, what they think your childhood was like. And those are a doozy because even if they're, like, completely off base, it's like you read a whole essay about it and you start to think this is true and stuff.
- [37:18]
Jake Shields
But people are making Reddit threads about you.
- [37:22]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, all the time. They'll talk about the way my glasses look on my face, different frames. They think I should try what. How I should increase my tit size and just try to, like, ride me a Khalifa's coattails. And I don't even know. That's not that offensive and stuff. I don't go on Reddit anymore or anything. But, yeah, I'd say at this point I'm immune to the hate. Yeah.
- [37:41]
Jake Shields
I use Reddit for restaurant recommendations.
- [37:43]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, really?
- [37:43]
Jake Shields
It's good for that?
- [37:44]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, I've never tried that.
- [37:45]
Jake Shields
Yeah, try it out.
- [37:46]
Farha Khalidi
Okay. It's better than, like, Yelp and stuff.
- [37:48]
Jake Shields
Yelp's decent. Yeah. But Yelp, you could pay to get to the top. So it's, like, pay to play.
- [37:52]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, okay.
- [37:53]
Jake Shields
Reddit's just, like, honest. Like, the good thing about Reddit is people are just honest because you're all anonymous. Kind of like being an anonymous account on Twitter.
- [37:59]
Farha Khalidi
I guess I'll try that. I just. I'm, like, 15 pounds underweight, but I did blood work this week, and I have extremely high cholesterol despite that. And I'm prone to, like, heart disease because every day all I eat is, like, I have one meal a day. I have, like, Red Bulls and coffee for the first half of the day, and then the second half of the day, I order an impossible Whopper meal from Burger King with, like, fries and Coke.
- [38:19]
Jake Shields
Those are terrible for you.
- [38:21]
Farha Khalidi
They are. Well, I thought because I bought into fat phobia and I was like, I'm not going to get, like, heart disease. Like, I'm underweight. But no, I'm like, at risk now.
- [38:29]
Jake Shields
For like, yeah, you could be skinny and super unhealthy, like a heart attack.
- [38:32]
Farha Khalidi
I didn't know that.
- [38:32]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I had visceral fat because I'm pretty skinny too, and I had terrible health.
- [38:37]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. So I'm trying to clean up my diet. So I should try out the restaurant stuff.
- [38:40]
Jake Shields
But yeah, I would cut out impossible meat in general. There's seed oils in it.
- [38:45]
Farha Khalidi
I thought it was healthy. Cause also the thing is, I'm very malnourished because of the vegetarianism. So I was like, okay, at least I can get protein this way. But no, I think it's definitely doing more harm than good.
- [38:54]
Jake Shields
You might have to eat some meat.
- [38:56]
Farha Khalidi
I don't know about that. But yeah, I should ask Jake Shields about it because he's a vegetarian.
- [39:01]
Jake Shields
That's true. Whatever he's doing is, you could admit he's right on that aspect of.
- [39:05]
Farha Khalidi
He gives me hope because everyone's like, you're not gonna fix your health being vegetarian. I'm like, oh, well, this, like, meathead is like, killing it.
- [39:10]
Jake Shields
Well, it's harder, but it's possible. Like, there's a guy named Brian Johnson. I don't know if you've seen vegan, vegan or vegetarian. But he's the pale white old guy that's trying to live forever.
- [39:19]
Farha Khalidi
He's the one who takes like 50 pills a day.
- [39:21]
Jake Shields
Yeah, yeah, that guy. But he's super healthy and he's vegetarian, I believe.
- [39:24]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, okay.
- [39:25]
Jake Shields
You might have to follow his recipes.
- [39:27]
Farha Khalidi
He doesn't, like, look like a glowing picture of hell. Like, I know that's superficial, but, like, he looks like he. He looks like the living dead. So I don't know if I would trust him.
- [39:36]
Jake Shields
People have done a side by side with him in Voldemort.
- [39:39]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, that's really funny.
- [39:40]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [39:41]
Farha Khalidi
Have you had him on?
- [39:41]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [39:43]
Farha Khalidi
Okay.
- [39:43]
Jake Shields
I had had him on and we just talked about erections because he measures how long he's hard at night, how many hours he's hard at night. So we talked about that and just died.
- [39:52]
Farha Khalidi
And he uses that as a metric for longevity or just.
- [39:55]
Jake Shields
He does, yeah. How hard you like, how long you have a boner every night.
- [39:59]
Farha Khalidi
How long does the average.
- [40:00]
Jake Shields
I think 2 hours and 20 minutes.
- [40:02]
Farha Khalidi
That's impressive, right?
- [40:03]
Jake Shields
For his age? Yeah, it's impressive.
- [40:05]
Farha Khalidi
No, even. Wait, you're. Even if he was young, when you.
- [40:08]
Jake Shields
Get older, it goes down. So, like, you're not hard as long.
- [40:12]
Farha Khalidi
You're saying, like, the average young guy could stay hard for two and a.
- [40:14]
Jake Shields
Half hours, like, throughout the night. Yeah. So you'll get hard for like 20, 30 minutes and then.
- [40:18]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, okay. That you meant.
- [40:20]
Jake Shields
No, no, that'd be way too long in one session. Oh, my God, that would hurt. But he actually just went to India and the air pollution was so bad. I don't know if you saw this.
- [40:29]
Farha Khalidi
No, I didn't.
- [40:30]
Jake Shields
He was supposed to speak at an event when the air pollution was so bad, he left.
- [40:34]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, because of his health and.
- [40:35]
Jake Shields
Yeah. Like, he doesn't leave his house.
- [40:37]
Farha Khalidi
That's so funny that he just left. I feel like he could have accounted for that. And like he.
- [40:42]
Jake Shields
Yeah, he brought a mask and everything. But he's at the point now where if the sun rays are too strong, he won't leave the house in la, so he'll just stay inside.
- [40:49]
Farha Khalidi
Can we make bets on how long he's going to live? How old is he right now?
- [40:53]
Jake Shields
I think he's 50 something right now.
- [40:54]
Farha Khalidi
Okay.
- [40:55]
Jake Shields
And he, like, you think he'll hit 100?
- [40:56]
Farha Khalidi
I think he's biologically 100. Like, I think that he. He's not young. Like, he doesn't look young. His skin looks like it's going to tear any second. Honestly, I think he's going to die at like 60, probably. If you're taking 50 pills a day, like, you're going to have liver damage, right?
- [41:13]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I mean, you should. But he's measuring his liver often and there's nothing yet. But who knows? Who knows? Shout out to him.
- [41:21]
Farha Khalidi
Do you believe him about his erection stats?
- [41:24]
Jake Shields
Yeah. You can't lie about it because it's hooked up to, like, an actual device.
- [41:28]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, really?
- [41:29]
Jake Shields
Yeah. There's a device that he uses.
- [41:31]
Farha Khalidi
That's so funny.
- [41:31]
Jake Shields
Yeah. Do you feel pressured to get, like, cosmetic procedures on your body to maintain the beauty as you get older?
- [41:41]
Farha Khalidi
I just lived in Miami the past few years, and this sounds mean, but I feel like there have been moments I haven't gotten any work done, like, Botox, filler or anything. Mostly out of just stinginess. Like, honestly, I'm just. Like, this feels like a waste of money. Like, you spend $1,000 on filler and you have to get it. Get it in again, like three months later. But also being in Miami. I just feel like a lot of it doesn't look good. Like, I've considered doing things. Like, before I went on my reality show, I was actually gonna get, like, injections under my eyes. Cause I felt like my eyes were too hollow. And I thought that, like, if I got, like, they feel sunk. Cause I'm so skinny, like, they feel sunken in. So I wanted to look more, like, lively and stuff. So I was gonna do that. But then I think for one of the procedures they were going to do for me at the med spa, they were like, oh, by the way, like, the risk of blindness for this is like 1%. And then I was like, oh, I'm out. And like, in theory, that doesn't sound like a lot, but for how much I care about it, that's a lot. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to flip 100 pennies. And then, you know, for me, it wasn't worth it at all. But, yeah, being in Miami, I just think a lot of it doesn't look good. Like, you get open rhinoplasty as a woman, and then as you age, it actually sinks into your face. So it ends up looking kind of like Voldemort.
- [42:50]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [42:51]
Farha Khalidi
So honestly, me being anti plastic surgery, it's not from, like a feminist stance. It's more from a actually superficial stance. And I'm like, I do think it ages you worse. I might get veneers or something.
- [43:03]
Jake Shields
Those are bad for you too.
- [43:04]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, are they?
- [43:05]
Jake Shields
Yeah. We could talk about it off camera, but yeah.
- [43:07]
Farha Khalidi
Okay. You've done it.
- [43:08]
Jake Shields
No, I just learned a lot about it. I've had a lot of dentists on the show.
- [43:12]
Farha Khalidi
That's good to know because I was going to go to Turkey because my friend recommended it.
- [43:16]
Jake Shields
We'll just look into, like, the side effects of it. I mean, I know people that have.
- [43:20]
Farha Khalidi
Gotten it and like, it just eroded their gum health and stuff. Basically.
- [43:23]
Jake Shields
Because your dental health, it says a lot about your body. Yeah. Like, each tooth is tied to an organ in your body. So, like, if you have a cavity in a certain tooth, that means your organ is suffering too.
- [43:32]
Farha Khalidi
That's good to know. Because I never could afford braces growing up or anything. And I have, like a misaligned tooth. And I feel like now if I get braces, people are gonna accuse me of pedo baiting. Because I do only fans, but I don't want to. Yeah. And I don't have the discipline for Invisalign. So I was like, okay, I could get the braces and Then get accused of pedal baiting for the next four years. Because if I got braces, I would not open my mouth on OnlyFans. Like, I would not smile.
- [43:53]
Jake Shields
I wouldn't open my mouth on the podcast. I'd be talking like this with my teeth closed.
- [43:57]
Farha Khalidi
Oh.
- [43:57]
Jake Shields
Because I had braces growing up. Yeah, they look terrible, let's be honest.
- [44:01]
Farha Khalidi
Hmm. Yeah. So she was like, my glasses.
- [44:02]
Jake Shields
Well, I would just, like, as a kid. It's whatever.
- [44:04]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah.
- [44:05]
Jake Shields
But we're like, pushing 30 now. I mean.
- [44:07]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, you had it as a kid or adult?
- [44:09]
Jake Shields
I had it as a kid. I'm just saying, like, braces as an adult is like, it's weird.
- [44:13]
Farha Khalidi
And I feel like I already look a bit young, so I just feel like it would be a weird look being on of and, you know, having my tits out with braces. Like, I don't know, I just think it'd be weird. Possibly unethical. So I was gonna do veneers, but now you're. Maybe you've convinced me against it, so maybe I'll do Invisalign.
- [44:27]
Jake Shields
I might do Invisalign too. Yeah, that one's pretty natural. Anything natural. I like. I like natural beauty, personally.
- [44:34]
Farha Khalidi
It just ages better. Yeah, I agree. A lot of those girls who get those facelifts now, they do look pretty good now. Like, people see like, Lindsay Lohan and they'll do, like, you know, I'm talking about the, like, tissue facelifts and stuff, and they look pretty realistic.
- [44:48]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I guess if you're an actor, it makes sense. You gotta maintain your beauty to make money. Yeah, that's like the one exception I'll make. And maybe of. And stuff like that. But just casually getting it. I feel like that's not the move.
- [45:00]
Farha Khalidi
You know, people are really against things like filters and stuff. And I'm like, I think it's way more not ethical. I think it's better to just not get work done. And then, like, if you want, just filter the fuck out of yourself. Like, who cares if guys are gonna jerk off to it? Like, go for it. But, like, don't actually waste your money for just an image. For online. For movies, it's different because you have less control.
- [45:18]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [45:19]
Farha Khalidi
Over your image. But if you're doing online work, it's like, who cares?
- [45:21]
Jake Shields
What's the most a fan has paid you?
- [45:25]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, I don't know. Actually.
- [45:27]
Jake Shields
Is it in the thousands?
- [45:29]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, for sure. I don't have, like, I should go through and see, like, how much each person has paid. I don't know.
- [45:35]
Jake Shields
You don't have a sugar daddy or, like, a whale, they call them, Right?
- [45:39]
Farha Khalidi
I have some whales. Yeah. I put, like, little whale emojis next to them, for sure. And then if people always ask me, like, would you ever date a sub? And I'm like, honestly? Yeah. And they're like, you're lying. I'm like, no, If I have a cute sub, like, I'll put a little, like, heart eye emoji next to them. They could be using a fake picture or something. But sometimes I'm like, oh, this guy is really cute.
- [45:55]
Jake Shields
Yeah. What's a sub?
- [45:57]
Farha Khalidi
Like a subscriber on only fans.
- [45:59]
Jake Shields
Thought you meant like a submissive.
- [46:00]
Farha Khalidi
Submissive.
- [46:01]
Jake Shields
Okay.
- [46:01]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, no, that's not my thing.
- [46:03]
Jake Shields
Yeah, I don't like that too. As a guy, at least, you know, a submissive girl. You mean like a submissive guy? Like, that's weird to me. Like a dominatrix, like, woman.
- [46:14]
Farha Khalidi
I couldn't date that even if it was just, like, sexually.
- [46:18]
Jake Shields
No.
- [46:19]
Farha Khalidi
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah.
- [46:20]
Jake Shields
I'm not into that, but I know guys are.
- [46:22]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, A lot of, like, high profile guys are into it because they like to, like, give up control.
- [46:26]
Jake Shields
I heard that. Yeah. I watched a show called Suits and that was common with the lawyers. Yeah. Because they dominate during the day so much.
- [46:33]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah.
- [46:33]
Jake Shields
In work.
- [46:35]
Farha Khalidi
Give up control. Yeah.
- [46:36]
Jake Shields
That's interesting to me.
- [46:37]
Farha Khalidi
It is interesting. I haven't seen that show. It's fiction, right?
- [46:40]
Jake Shields
Yeah. But it's kind of realistic. Suits is a good show.
- [46:43]
Farha Khalidi
That's what. Meghan Markle, right.
- [46:45]
Jake Shields
Yeah. She's married to the prince now or whatever.
- [46:47]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah.
- [46:48]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [46:49]
Farha Khalidi
Do you think Ben Shapiro thought she was lying when she was like. Yeah. They were worried about how dark me and Harry's baby was gonna be. A lot of conservatives were like, that's like, really? That doesn't seem realistic.
- [47:00]
Jake Shields
I don't know. I personally, I'm not the biggest Ben Shapiro fan.
- [47:03]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah.
- [47:03]
Jake Shields
To be honest, even though I'm on the right.
- [47:06]
Farha Khalidi
Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, a lot of people just didn't believe her, which is why I'm kind of glad. Well, not glad. I feel like a silver lining of all this. Like, I don't know if you're on Twitter. I'm obsessed with Twitter.
- [47:15]
Jake Shields
I use it periodically because it's so toxic if I'm on there all day. I just feel like.
- [47:20]
Farha Khalidi
So I'm on there all day and I feel like it's my only social. Like, I don't scroll TikTok or any of these other apps.
- [47:25]
Jake Shields
It's so negative. Like, how do you deal with that all day? Just people hating literally all day.
- [47:31]
Farha Khalidi
I think it's like, funny. I'll open up and it's like a Jake Shields tweet about like Holocaust denial. It's like a good conversation. Start me saying next time and be like, look at this. Just like, make fun of him.
- [47:40]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [47:40]
Farha Khalidi
But yeah, what was I going to say? Yeah, a silver lining of all this, like, alt right bullshit is that like, I feel like a lot of conservatives pretended for a long time that like, you know, racism's over. Like, we. I don't see color. We live in like a post racial society. And like, no way anyone said that to Meghan Markle. But now you go online and so many conservatives only see things through the lens of race. So I feel like it's kind of. It showed the underbelly a little bit and now it's good because they can't like, deny as much like the underbelly of their politics.
- [48:07]
Jake Shields
I could see that. Yeah, that makes sense.
- [48:09]
Farha Khalidi
Especially with like the Indian racism stuff. Like, I feel like that one is such a smoking gun because with every other group that they shit it on, they had like this rationale for it. So for like, why they don't want, like people south of the border in the country, they would say it's because of things like, like in Riley and like fentanyl and cartels and stuff. And then with like black people, they said like, oh, we're not anti black, we're anti black culture because of hip hop and crime and like BLM riots and stuff like that. And then with Asians, sometimes it was like they, you know, Covid and stuff like that. Versus now they're just shooting on Indians. What I just think is hilarious because not to be like an Indian supremacist, but it's like Indians have like the least amount of criminal records in this country. So the most amount of degrees, they have the most. The highest number of like unicorn startups, like startups valued at over a billion dollars. They author the most amount of scientific reports. So I feel like this is just the smoking gun that like a lot of these conservatives who shit on these races, it's not for a specific reason. It's because they're just racist.
- [49:06]
Jake Shields
Yeah.
- [49:06]
Farha Khalidi
And I feel like a lot of maybe I don't know if you can relate to this. I feel like a lot of Asians and Indians kind of did get off the idea of being like a model minority and, you know. Cause conservatives would like prop them up of being like, no, we're not racist. Like, these races are doing well. So I feel like the fact that they're now finally turning on Indians who do, like, nothing wrong in this country, like literally, like, again, commit basically no crime, basically zero violent crime in this country. And they're shitting on them and saying they don't want Indians in this country, that they're cockroaches and stuff. I hope is enough of, like, enough of an impetus for like, Indians to knock it off on being like, you know, a pick me for concern for these racists and stuff, you know?
- [49:44]
Jake Shields
Yeah, that's a weird group to hate on. They just say they smell bad and stuff. Right. Nothing like that.
- [49:48]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, or they'll show videos again of like people going to India and it'll be like, you know, the way they like gawk at like white girls and stuff. But it's again, yeah, obviously there's a lot of violent crime in India, but the actual Indian Americans in this country commit zero. Yeah, it's like, why are we talking about, you know, India?
- [50:06]
Jake Shields
Yeah, that's a weird one. But like I said, they're just gonna hate on whatever, especially on Twitter.
- [50:10]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
- [50:12]
Jake Shields
Where can people find you and keep up with you and subscribe if they want?
- [50:16]
Farha Khalidi
Yeah. OnlyFans.com Farakhalidi, Instagram, tick tock, substack. Yeah, I'm on everything pretty much.
- [50:22]
Jake Shields
Well, we'll link it below. Good luck with your debate with Jake after this.
- [50:25]
Farha Khalidi
Thank you.
- [50:26]
Jake Shields
Check her out, guys, for having me. Yep. See you next time.
- [50:28]
Farha Khalidi
Bye.