The Right Is Eating Itself Alive… and 2028 Will Prove It | Alan Hidalgo | DSH #1815

Summary

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Digital Social Hour Ep. #1815 – "The Right Is Eating Itself Alive… and 2028 Will Prove It"

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Alan Hidalgo
Date: February 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this intense and candid episode, Sean Kelly sits down with entrepreneur and conservative commentator Alan Hidalgo to dissect the fracturing state of the American right. Against the backdrop of recent political upheaval—including the assassination of Charlie, party infighting, high-profile ideological splits, and concerns about the future—Alan offers raw insights into why he believes Republicans are poised to lose both the midterms and 2028 presidential election. This episode explores the rise of conspiracy theories, internal party conflicts, the influence of controversial figures like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes, and the shifting bases of influence on the right.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Right’s Civil War and Upcoming Elections

• Fracturing Post-Charlie’s Assassination

  • Alan believes that since Charlie's death, the right has lost the "glue" that once held together its diverse factions:

    "I think Charlie was the person that was keeping everything together...He was literally, like, keeping the glue together—the crazy nut jobs all the way on the right. And then the more moderate people, the Jewish people, and he was like, trying to hold—but now that he's gone, it's like, who's going to be that person?"
    (01:27–01:50, Alan)

• Bleak Outlook for the GOP

  • Alan is pessimistic about the Republican Party’s chances in both the midterms and the 2028 presidential election, mainly attributing it to infighting and the growing influence of "loony" extremists:

    “I think we're going to lose in 2028 to Gavin Newscom.”
    (00:00, 04:27)
    “Not because Gavin Newsom is so great. I think it’s because the Republicans are ungrateful and they’re fumbling the bag...”
    (04:42–05:00, Alan)

• Dependency on Broad Coalition for Victory

  • Alan underscores that Trump’s previous victory depended on an unlikely alliance of minorities, moderates, and former Democrats:

    “Remember, for Trump to win, he had to get all the conservatives, he had to get black people, he had to get Hispanics, he had to get the Joe Rogans, the Elon Musk of the world to win.”
    (06:42–07:04, Alan)

  • Implies a loss of even 20–30% of the base could doom future elections.

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The Candace Owens & Tucker Carlson Effect

• Candace Owens: From Asset to Liability

  • Alan laments Candace’s shift from a sane, intellectual voice to “nut job” status—tying her radicalization to personal events and suggesting possible mental illness:

    “I used to love her… I think she has a mental illness…. I think she’s type 2 bipolar.”
    (02:50–03:14, Alan)

  • Accuses Candace of “monetizing the situation” with conspiracy content and destructively dividing conservatives:

    “I just think she’s a nut job.”
    (02:47, Alan)

• Tucker Carlson: From Fox Star to Controversial Independent

  • Alan believes Tucker’s post-Fox antics are disingenuous, aimed at maximizing viral notoriety:

    “I think his whole thing is, how can I go viral? What's the craziest, nuttiest things that I can say… I think he's full of shit. And I think he's doing that to go viral.”
    (07:37–08:28, Alan)

  • Responds to conspiracies about government ties:

    “There is potential for that. I mean, I know his father was in it. I don’t know if he is.”
    (08:34–08:49, Alan)

• New Bases and Crowd Shifts

  • Sean and Alan agree that Tucker has lost much of his older Fox audience, replaced by younger, conspiracy-minded followers.

    "He’s lost a lot of those [old viewers] and I think he’s gained a lot more of the conspiracy...30s, 20s, once he started his own pod.”
    (23:42–23:53, Alan and Sean)

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Nick Fuentes, Free Speech, and Cancel Culture

• Fuentes as an Outsider Power

  • Alan describes Nick Fuentes as “really smart” and, while denouncing some of his views, sees his rise as a result of establishment suppression.

    “He’s just trying to be his own animal…Like Donald Trump was, just like when Donald Trump came to the Republican Party, he wasn't trying to be like anyone.”
    (09:31, Alan)

• On Deplatforming and Free Speech

  • Alan is an absolutist on free speech, arguing that even controversial or offensive ideas should be publicly aired, letting the public decide the fate of such figures:

    “You can have the stupidest, craziest ideas. You should not be, like, not allowed to go on platforms and say what you want...Let the public be the one to crucify you.”
    (10:34–11:18, Alan)

• Cancel Culture: Right vs. Left

  • Sean points out that the right is now canceling within its own ranks more aggressively than the left ever did:

    “The left started cancel culture, but now I feel like it's bigger on the right. Isn't that crazy?”
    (22:34, Sean)

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Conspiracy Theories, Mental Illness, and Media Responsibility

• Rise of Conspiracy-Minded Conservatism

  • Alan warns about the allure and influence of conspiracy-driven media personalities on the base:

    “But what bothers me is when you start saying shit that you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re confusing lifelong conservatives and people that don’t think for themselves.”
    (23:19–23:30, Alan)

• Mental Health & Content Creation

  • Both host and guest discuss how mental illness and obsession with viewership play a role in the behavior of figures like Candace and Tucker:

    “What else would explain [it]—mental illness and obsession with wanting viewership? I think that's what it comes down to.”
    (25:30–25:37, Alan)

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Trump’s Second Term and Leadership Evaluation

• Grading Trump and Republican Influence

  • Alan grades Trump’s second term as a B+/A- for delivering on 80% of his promises, citing immigration and deregulation—while criticizing those pushing file-release conspiracies:

    “He has delivered, I would say, on probably 80% of the things he talked about.”
    (13:41–14:09, Alan)

• On Influence and Donor Power

  • Alan rebuffs claims that Trump is “paid off,” using examples of Trump’s pushback even against major donors like Elon Musk:

    “Trump has shown a pattern, that he always does whatever the fuck he wants, number one… the richest man… still couldn’t make Trump do what he wanted.”
    (17:36–18:12, Alan)

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The “Blame the Jews” Trend and Its Dangers

• Defending Jewish Americans and Israel
  • Alan denounces antisemitic scapegoating and pleads for a return to logical opposition to the radical left:

    “Conservatives need to get back to focusing on the real enemy, the left, the radical left, the lunatics.”
    (19:23, Alan)
    "Saying that the entire country is a certain way is ridiculous. Netanyahu is being charged with war crimes in Israel...."
    (19:19–20:03, Alan)

  • Shares his Christian perspective on Jewish heritage and why envy factors into antisemitism:

    “I think a lot of people are jealous of Jews. I think that's really what it comes down to."
    (21:00–21:16, Alan)

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The Rise of Radical Islam and Security Concerns

• Islam as a Threat, Nuanced Perspective
  • Alan, while distinguishing between radical Islam and general Muslims, advocates for strong national security measures:

    “Do I think all Muslims are bad? No… But the radical Islam is definitely a problem...That needs to be treated like a mental illness.”
    (31:21, Alan)

  • References recent alleged terror plots in California and New Orleans as evidence of immediate risks:

    “[Yesterday] they just stopped another Muslim who was planning an attack in New Orleans.”
    (32:11–32:18, Alan)

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Legacy, GOP Leadership, and the Future

• The Trump Family & Future of the Right

  • Alan admires the Trump family’s humility and sees potential for Trump’s children to continue the political brand:

    “I want to see the legacy go on. Don Jr. Run one day… Laura Trump… Eric potentially…”
    (34:11–34:34, Alan)

  • Shares stories of personal encounters underlining Eric Trump's humility and kindness.

• Recruiting the Next Wave of Conservative Leaders

  • Alan and Sean discuss the fading of old-guard Republicans and stress the need for younger, business-minded figures to step up—citing figures like AOC and Mandami as non-traditional successes.

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• On 2028:

  "I think we're going to lose in 2028 to Gavin Newscom." (00:00–00:04, Alan)

• On Candace Owens:

  "She comes on Piers Morgan. She's still spewing the same stuff. Then she's backtracking. I just think she's a nut job." (02:07–02:47, Alan)

  "I think she has a mental illness... If I knew people in my family that have bipolar disorder and a lot of the delusions, the things that she says, it's very similar..." (02:50–03:14, Alan)

• On Tucker Carlson:

  "I used to love Tucker Carlson...I think a lot of the shit he says, he's disingenuous, he doesn't actually believe it...I think he's doing that to go viral." (07:37–08:28, Alan)

• On GOP Infighting:

  "They're fucking it up for everyone else...Donald Trump took almost a bullet for us, assassinated almost twice, was going to be put in jail for the rest of his life, all to have this ruined by Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and people in that camp." (05:00–06:13, Alan)

• On Platforming Controversial Figures:

  "You can have the stupidest, craziest ideas. You should not be, like, not allowed to go on platforms and say what you want. Let the public be the one to crucify you." (10:34–11:18, Alan)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–01:19 — Alan lays out his pessimism for 2028, explaining why Newsom is likely to win and introducing the episode’s main political theme.
• 02:07–03:34 — Sharp critique of Candace Owens, shift in her persona, and speculation on mental health.
• 04:27–07:21 — Analysis of GOP’s fractured coalition; risks of voter drop-off; Trump’s reliance on cross-ideological support.
• 07:37–09:18 — In-depth take on Tucker Carlson’s new media tactics post-Fox and possible ties to the intelligence establishment.
• 10:34–11:18 — Alan’s absolutist stance on free speech and opposition to deplatforming, even for the far-right.
• 13:38–15:29 — Alan grades Trump’s presidency and discusses "file release" controversies.
• 17:36–19:29 — Debating whether Trump can or cannot be "bought" by donors; Jewish influence in the GOP.
• 21:00–22:34 — On antisemitism among the right and clarifying the distinction between Jews, Israel, and political blame.
• 31:21–32:41 — Alan speaks on the threat of radical Islam and recent terror threats in the US.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a deep dive into the existential crisis on the American right, blending inside political knowledge, speculation, heated criticism, and rarely filtered opinion. Alan Hidalgo brings passion and candor, unafraid to call out prominent figures, defend the legacy of Charlie, and challenge his own party’s trajectory. Listeners are left with a vivid portrait of a movement at war with itself and facing a daunting electoral future.

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Where to Find Alan Hidalgo:

“They can find me on Instagram. My username is Alan Hid. So at symbol and then A L, A N, H, I, D.” (39:10, Alan)

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Transcript

[Alan Hid]

I think we're going to lose in 2028 to Gavin Newscombe.

[Sean]

I mean, really think he'll win president?

[Alan Hid]

Yes.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Alan Hid]

Yes. I think he's the. He's charismatic. He's. He's good looking. A lot of people are going to fall for it because the average American is pretty. Pretty dumb and doesn't really check into things and they just, you know, whoever's the better looking, smoother talker is the. But I mean, hell, he's still in California. Foreign.

[Sean]

Guys here at amfest with someone I've known for almost a decade now. I think we got Alan here. But today we're talking politics. We're not talking E. Commerce.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, true.

[Sean]

That's how we met, though, I think.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, you hit jersey champs. I remember, man. You had, like, every single jersey. And I knew a lot of athletes from lsu, so.

[Sean]

Yeah, I think you're the one who. You told me about Odell Beckham, I believe, like, yeah, years ago.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to school together. So.

[Sean]

Crazy. But what's new with you, man?

[Alan Hid]

Dude, just building. Still building businesses. I mean, I'm still very active in politics, too. Been talking a lot on my Instagram about what's been going on in the country. You know, I'm obviously more on the conservative side. And ever since the whole incident with Charlie happened, it's like, dude, I just want to, like, speak up even 10 times more than before.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

So, yeah, I've just been active in business and active in politics.

[Sean]

Yeah, the Charlie stuff really seemed to have divided the conservative movement, right?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. Yeah, it did. Honestly, I think it was even before that. I think. I think Charlie was the person that was keeping everything together. Like, he was literally, like, keeping the glue together. The crazy nut jobs all the way on the right. And then the more moderate people, the Jewish people, and he was, like, trying to hold, but now that he's gone, it's like, who's going to be that person? I really am scared that we're going to just collapse here.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

Because both sides respected him a lot. And now there's not that unifying person that can, like, sit and keep the glue together, if that makes sense.

[Sean]

Do you have any hope after Erica met with Candace yesterday, that there will be some uniform, more unification moving forward?

[Alan Hid]

Well, so I watched the interview with Candace and Pierce yesterday. Yeah, it was pretty long. But I don't know, dude, because, like, whenever Candace came on, she still sounds like a nut job. I mean, she comes on. She comes on Pierce Morgan. She's still spewing the same stuff. Then she's backtracking. I mean, it's obvious to me that she's just monetizing off of the situation. Ever since she started with the whole thing with, with Daily Wire. Yeah, she started hating Jews. Then Kanye west said he was going to go death con on Jews. She was very supportive of that. This whole theory where the, the we never went to the moon. I mean, it's like this is just a common pattern with her. I just think she's a nut job.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

She used to be pretty sane though, right?

[Alan Hid]

I used to love her. I used, I used to think. I do think she's very smart and intellectual, but this might be controversial. I, I think she has a mental illness. I think she's type 2 bipolar. If I knew people in my family that have bipolar disorder and a lot of the delusions, the, the things that she says, it's very similar to things I've seen in family members. Kanye west also has bipolar disorder and you just see like a lot. And I like both of them as people, but I think it's clear, like they're not all the way right in the head. And why are we pretending that like what they're saying has credibility? I don't understand.

[Sean]

When did you stop supporting her as much? Was it the Charlie stuff? Was it the Brigitte Macron thing? Was it before that?

[Alan Hid]

It was before the McCrone stuff. Yeah. So it was so first term of Trump. Very supportive of Candace, thought she was amazing. She was very level headed, I really think. And this again might be controversial. After she started having babies, like back to back, I just noticed like a shift in her. I don't know if it's postpartum or what exactly happened. I mean, there's a lot of things that can happen. No fault to her even know because it's hormones in the body. But at the end of the day, can we really sit here and pretend like she's the same Candace Owens Trump term first to now? No. I mean, I just think there's no way. I think once her and Ben like had their issues, that's when all hell kind of started breaking loose with her.

[Sean]

Yeah. You know, if this fighting continues, are you worried about midterms? Are you worried about the 28 election?

[Alan Hid]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think we're going to lose the midterms. I think there's literally such a small chance that we, we'd be able to do that. I think we're going to lose in 2028 to Gavin Newscom.

[Sean]

I mean, really Think he'll win president?

[Alan Hid]

Yes.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Alan Hid]

Yes. I think he's the, he's charismatic, he's, he's good looking. A lot of people are going to fall for it because the average American is pretty, pretty dumb and doesn't really check into things and they just, you know, whoever's the better looking, smoother talker is the. But I mean, hell, he's still in California. You know what I mean? I think we're going to fumble the bag, though. Not because Gavin Newsom is so great. I think it's because the Republicans are ungrateful and they're fumbling the bag and you have this faction that has just gone loony crazy and basically, are we allowed to curse on this? They're fucking it up for everyone else. I mean, they're literally this up. Like Donald Trump took, took almost a bullet for us, assassinated almost twice, was going to be put in jail for the rest of his life, all to have this ruined by Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and people in that, in that camp. So I really think it's, I really think it's messed up. I understand why Trump is irritated with these people because, like, dude, yeah, I get it. He's not perfect. There's a couple of things that haven't been figured out. But the bottom line is he's been in for one year. He's trying to fix four years of bullshit policies as quickly as he can. And we all know that depending on how the country is come next year, it's going to probably determine how midterms go. But the main thing is these people that support Candace, these cult followers that don't really think for themselves and are just hypnotized by her because I think her average listener, if you look at it, it's, it's younger women, A lot of them are stay at home moms. I don't know, I just think a lot of them are kind of delusional and they're going to cost us the midterms, they're going to cost us the election. Because the way I see it is they're not going to show up and vote for Republicans because they're, they don't like Trump anymore, they don't like J.D. vance, they think he's horrible. And so if those people don't show up, we lose. Remember, for Trump to win, he had to get all the conservatives, he had to get black people, he had to get Hispanics, he had to get the Joe Rogans, the Elon Musk of the world to win. You know, like, to do what he did in this past year. So if, let's say, let's say these nut cases in the Conservative Party make up, I don't know, 20, 30% of the party. If those people don't show up, we lose everything.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's just Trump, Assembly, Avengers. He had to get rfk. He had to get Tulsi, he had to get Elon, everyone.

[Alan Hid]

Joe Rogan, Andrew Schultz. Like people that were Democrats before.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

So, like he had to do that to just barely get in. So imagine if his own party doesn't show up to vote.

[Sean]

Like, we'll see what happens. Now, you mentioned Tucker earlier.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

My Uber driver from the airport thinks he's CIA. He's coming out with weird stuff about Venezuela. Saw he predicted we'd be in a war with Venezuela. What's your take on Tucker Carlson?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, I used to love Tucker Carlson. So it's, I'm a Fox News fanatic, like, since I was young. He was the most entertaining anchor when he was on Fox. But it's like, I think when he got off Fox, he had to figure out a way to scramble and make the same income that he was used to. I mean, the Guy was making 10 to 20 million a year at Fox News. And then all of a sudden he has to go independent. So I think his whole thing is, how can I go viral? What's the craziest, nuttiest things that I can say that's going to get attention? That's what makes money. That's what gets view. We all know that. So I think a lot of the shit he says, he's disingenuous, he doesn't actually believe it. And as far as Tucker goes, I saw the Venezuelan thing. I saw that he said that these congress people got briefed there were war coming again. I think he's full of shit. And I think he's doing that to go viral. I think it's just a strategy for, for media.

[Sean]

You think he's potentially tied to some government agencies?

[Alan Hid]

Protecting what?

[Sean]

You think he's potentially tied to some government agencies?

[Alan Hid]

There is potential for that. I mean, I know his father was in it. I don't know if he is. I know there's a lot of people that don't like him, though. Like, I think there's a lot of people in the federal government, even Trump. I think Trump's like, on his last thread with Tucker, he's like, still allows him to come to the party, but he really doesn't really. I don't think he really fucks with him anymore. I mean, I just think, you know, Tucker has obviously a big influence. But what I notice about Tucker and Candace, where the common theme is they. They are very. They're very convicted in what they say. They sound very, very convicted, and I think that's why people believe them. But if you actually, you know, listen to their understanding of history and how politics work, they sound like idiots to me.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

I mean, it's just like, it doesn't. It's not. It's not reality. And I think they're both trying to just make the most they can.

[Sean]

Where does Fuentes fit in all this? Because he's beefing with Tucker. He's beefing with Candace. What do you think of his movement?

[Alan Hid]

I think Fuentes is really smart. I mean, the dude is just trying to be his own animal. Kind of like Donald Trump was, like, just like when Donald Trump came to the Republican Party, he wasn't trying to be like anyone. He was like his own thing, and no one could take him out. And I think Nick is kind of doing that. If you look at it in the Republican, you know, Charlie's gone now, so who's really the loudest? Who are the people listening to Nick, though? I don't agree with some of the crazy things that I've heard him say, you know, a lot of the shit he says is also true.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

And. And you see older establishment people. Charlie was included in that at one point that were kind of trying to suppress him and really dismiss and ignore him. And I think that's a fatal mistake because there's stronger. I'm sorry.

[Sean]

It made him stronger.

[Alan Hid]

It made him stronger. I mean, look, he's on Pierce Morgan. He got on Tucker show. He just did. He's been doing a lot of big. A lot of big people are now inviting him on their podcast.

[Sean]

Potentially going to have him on who? Rogan.

[Alan Hid]

Oh, really? I didn't know that.

[Sean]

Yeah. Was thinking about having him on.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, I think he should. I don't. I don't agree. Dude. You can have the stupidest, craziest ideas. You should not be, like, not allowed to go on platforms and. And say what you want. At the end of the day, if you really think those. The people that think the Fuentes are really bad, if they think he's so bad, you'll let him go on those places and crash and burn on his own.

[Sean]

It's like, so you're a free speech absolutist?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. As long as you're not, like, you know, saying I'm going to go kill people or something crazy like that. Yeah, I think, I mean, if you say you hate, you know, Hispanics or whites or whatever, you should be allowed to say that. Let the public be the one to crucify you. Like, don't be the person to not allow that person to go and speak.

[Sean]

Yeah.

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[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Don't be the one to platform them. This what they say?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I get, I get some criticism and hate when I have on certain guests because I'm platforming them, but I don't agree with that because they already have a big platform usually. You know what I mean?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So it doesn't make any sense.

[Alan Hid]

No, I think it's. I think it's stupid. I think, I think the most boring conversations are the ones where people agree with everything you say.

[Sean]

So boring.

[Alan Hid]

Right? I mean, it's why Jubilee is so popular. I love Jubilee. I love Jubilee.

[Sean]

Great.

[Alan Hid]

There's nothing like that. Dude. If, if. I mean it's like you go on there. Yeah. You can tell that they kind of lean left the actual organization, but dude, they don't give a. They'll let the. They'll let the most racist crazy nut job on there or they'll let the most nutty transgender, you know, or Palestinian person. Like they'll let everyone go on. I think that's why they're so successful.

[Sean]

I even watched Dr. Mike debate who I don't agree with a lot of stuff he says. He even did a hit piece on me. But I like Jubilee because they'll bring both sides together.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, you should get on there.

[Alan Hid]

I would love to. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean]

If you're watching this, Jubilee, so you think Trump, if you had to grade him on his second term, A through F, objectively, what would you give him right now?

[Alan Hid]

I would give him a B plus.

[Sean]

Wow. Yeah, it's pretty good.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. Yeah, I would give him BB plus. I mean, did you think about it? The immigration, reversing the, the stuff he's doing with terrorists. I mean, we've made billions of dollars this year, the country has, in revenue, strengthening the military, getting out the WOKE policies, taking the, the transgenders out of women's sports. I mean, dude, there's. I could go on and on. He has delivered, I would say, on probably 80% of the things he talked about.

[Sean]

Other than the files, I can't think of anything major.

[Alan Hid]

But to be honest with you, Sean, when it comes to those files, I think, I think it's kind of disingenuous that people have said that, oh, Trump said this over and over and over. No, no, he didn't. I did. I've been to, I used to be a youth director for the Trump campaign, so I've been to many of his rallies. I don't recall him ever making that a big deal. It was always like Cash Patel, Dom Bengino. It was those people speaking for him. And yes, he's like, okay. But there was an interview where they asked him, hey, will you release the MLK files? Yes. Will you release. It was on Fox. Will you release the jfk? Yes. Will you release the Epstein? Yeah, maybe. But I need to make sure that it's done the right way. Like, you know, he said kind of like that. And so I really think people that are holding him to that are being really unfair. And you got to think like, dude, there is people in there that just because they took a picture with them, they're going to be blasted all over. And it's not like, is it fair to those people to be, have the whole public say, oh, you were friends with him, you did what he did. No. So I think there's a balance and I'm more of a, I'm a conservative. That's. I like to take a level headed approach. Like, I don't like to do crazy shit that makes no sense.

[Sean]

I feel that.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean]

So what do you think of Bongino stepping down? He said he's retiring next month, right?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, I think it's very interesting. I was actually shocked to see it. But then I'm also not shocked because I remember earlier this year, him and Pam Bondi and we're having a spat in the White House. And it, you know, according to sources. So there's several things there. One, he was making. He was making seven figures a year. Income from the podcast.

[Sean]

Yeah, he was crushing it.

[Alan Hid]

He was crushing it. Had a lot of loyal fans.

[Sean]

He had the number one show on Rumble, I believe, before Fuentas.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. So you gotta understand, this guy went from making multiple seven figures income to now he's in a position where I. I think the salary, if I'm not mistaken, is one to 200 grand.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

For Deputy F. FBI Director, you know, he's second in command, so I think income has something to do with it. I know he has health issues. That's what I'm being told, is that he had some health issues. But maybe, who knows? Maybe the reason he's like, hey, I don't like how this Charlie thing's being handled with the investigation. Maybe he, maybe cash pissed him off. Maybe, maybe there's something going on that we don't know about. And that's the difference between me and conspiracy theorist. I say maybe these people are like, no, 100%, he did this, he did that. How the fuck do you know? Are you on the inside? Do you work in the FBI? I mean, it's.

[Sean]

I, I think they speak in absolutes.

[Alan Hid]

They speak in absolutes. I just think it's. I just think it's not fair and it's ridiculous. And Don Benjino is a patriot, and anyone that says otherwise is. I think they're delusional. And I think, you know how they have T. T.D.S. trump syndrome. I don't know, dude. I think they're. I think, I think that's happening with our own party too. There's people that are like, trump's not good anymore. He's paid the Jews. All these different things. And it's like, dude, here's one thing I want to say. Any person that says that Trump is being paid and bought, I think is a moron. Why? Because Trump has always. Trump has shown a pattern, that he always does whatever the fuck he wants, number one. Number two, Elon Musk gave him $260 million last year to campaign. And then Trump still told him to F off earlier this year, and they had their beef. So in my opinion, or from a rational standpoint. Right. Does it make sense to say that Trump is paid off by some Jews in the US if the richest man in the world. Richest man, richer than any individual Jew. He's the richest man. Still couldn't make Trump do what he wanted with the ev mandates. I mean, that just doesn't make sense.

[Sean]

I think paid off is a stretch. I could see. Influenced.

[Alan Hid]

Influenced.

[Sean]

You know, Mir Adelen, that gets brought up a lot.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

What, what? She donated like 100 million.

[Alan Hid]

Who?

[Sean]

Miriam? Yeah, 100 million.

[Alan Hid]

Every politician's influence.

[Sean]

Everyone is.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because to get to that level, you need donors.

[Alan Hid]

You need donors.

[Sean]

You need rich donors.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, Trump had to have everyone. I mean, he had. He had Mark Zuckerberg back in him. He had Bezos. I mean, he had. I believe Sam Altman probably backed him to. These guys all contributed $1 million to his inauguration. You know, I was there. It was an amazing inauguration. So. Yes, but what politician hasn't been influenced? Does that mean that Trump succumbs to everything they want? No. 100%. Whenever Netanyahu got out of line and. And shot those missiles at Qatar, Trump called Net. Netanyahu called him out, told, you know, cussed him out, from what I heard. And he even went on the news and said, Netanyahu, Bibi is being an idiot, essentially. So people say that Netanyahu somehow controls Trump's. I think are. I think it's delusional.

[Sean]

What do you think of Jewish people getting the blame on everything bad that happens?

[Alan Hid]

I think it's ridiculous. I think it's so stupid. I think what the conservatives need to get back to is focusing on the real enemy, the left, the radical left, the lunatics. Those are the enemy. I mean, dude, there's Jewish people on the left and there's Jewish people on the right. I mean, so it's like, what people need to understand is Israel is a country, Judaism is a religion, and, and, and being Jewish is a heritage. And saying that the entire country is a certain way is ridiculous. Netanyahu is being charged with war crimes in Israel. So at the end of the day, if all Jews were bad and all Israel was bad, like these nut cases keep saying, well, why are they trying to put him on trial in Israel for war crimes?

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[Alan Hid]

So I just think that there's a lot of ignorance and people are just grasping this whole and I also think it's jealousy. I if I'm being honest, you know I'm Christian, I'm not Jewish but I think a lot of people are jealous of Jews. I think that's really what it comes down to.

[Sean]

Sensor what, what do you mean financial sense?

[Alan Hid]

I mean if you look at history, if you're a Christian, Jews were God's chosen people. They were the people that he chose. I don't know why the hell he chose them but those are the people that he chose. He blessed them when they were following his word. When they ran away from him, He c, he cursed them, he destroyed them. He's. They were in slavery. So at the end of the day as a Christian I don't think that I need to you know, worship the Jews and, and they can do no wrong. No, I can still hold them accountable but at the end of the day, yeah, I still do think like they're God's chosen people. Jesus was a Jew. You know it says in the Bible in Revelation those that those that bless Israel will be blessed. Those that curse it will be cursed. I don't want the US cursing Israel. And it also says in the last days that all the nations of the world are going to turn against the Jews and I think we're going in that direction. I'm just surprised it's coming from our party, from the Republicans. I, you know I always expected to left to do that left are supporting terrorists when these terrorists would chop off their heads, chop off their balls, chop off their everything, mutilate Them?

[Sean]

Yep.

[Alan Hid]

It makes no sense. But now you have conservatives, so called conservatives that are like doing the same thing.

[Sean]

I agree. The left started cancel culture, but now I feel like it's bigger on the right. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I feel like the right's doing a lot of canceling now, to be honest.

[Alan Hid]

Like, if you were to tell me this a year ago, you know, this is what so interesting. Last year, November 2024, everybody was unified under Trump. Every conservative, non conservatives, the RFK crowd, all those people, libertarians, went for Trump. And then it's like the Iranian strike thing happens and the whole Epstein and it's like now you have a big portion of the base that's completely flipped on Trump. They went awol. I think Candace Owens is a curse on the party. I think she's one of the main people responsible. I think Tucker Carlson is as well, though not as much so. You know, he went on Putin, he went to Qatar, he did a few things. Those things don't really bother me. But what bothers me is when you start saying shit that you don't know what you're talking about and you're confusing lifelong conservatives and people that don't. I hate to say it, but the people that are obsessed with Tucker and Carlson, they don't think for themselves.

[Sean]

He's got an older crowd and like a boomer audience are kind of like middle age.

[Alan Hid]

He does, but he's, he's lost a lot of those and I think he's gained a lot more of the conspiracy. I could see 30s, 20, once he.

[Sean]

Started his own pod. Yeah, yeah. Because he used to be on Fox, which was an older.

[Alan Hid]

That's the older audience.

[Sean]

That makes sense.

[Alan Hid]

But like I'll give you an example, Sean. My, my, my grandparents, they're. They're in their 80s. They're Fox News fanatics. Like, they watch it all day. They used to love Tucker whenever he was, you know, on Fox. Now they can't stand him.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Alan Hid]

So he's changed. Yeah, he's changed and that's why he's losing people.

[Sean]

Yeah, he's sold out in a way then.

[Alan Hid]

He's gaining these other. He's. Him and Candace are creating the same. That's why you saw them together in Nashville at that event they did together. I think Nick is being smart by kind of distancing himself. And in a way, even though Nick, he says, he says fucked up stuff like he does, but he's even more rational. Like, how is it that the. Not the pro Nazi guy is more rational? Than Candace Owens. Tucker Carlson. Tucker was the most popular anchor on Fox News when he was there. Candace was the most popular black Republican.

[Sean]

I agree. When I saw Nick, he basically said, israel didn't kill Charlie Kirk. When I saw him say that and take that hard stance, I think that's when he started really changing.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. I think he's realizing, like, hey, no, these conspiracy people, they're going a little too far. They're nuts. Even Alex Jones. Alex Jones is the godfather of crazy conspiracy theories. I. I've never liked Alex Jones. I always thought he was a nutcase. But. But even he has enough sense. I saw literally a. Last week, he called out Candace Owens and Tucker and said they're full of shit.

[Sean]

That's crazy. Full of how you know.

[Alan Hid]

That's how you know it's. And it's again. Mental illness.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

What else would explain mental illness and obsession with wanting viewership? I think that's what it comes down to. But I think Candace right now is about to lose a lot of credibility. She got destroyed on Piers Morgan. I love that Pierce Morgan called her out. I was waiting for someone to finally do that. I think more people should have her come on and they should question her about everything, because no one's questioning her. She's sitting here in her cozy little podcast room in Tennessee and not having to really face any. Any tough questions from people.

[Sean]

I wish they recorded that meeting with her and Erica. I would have loved.

[Alan Hid]

It would have been juicy, Right?

[Sean]

I love to see.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because Erica doesn't seem like she messes around.

[Alan Hid]

No. I mean, I've met her once or twice. She's very sweet. In private, she is a little bit more on the timid side, I would say. But it's disgusting the things that I've seen people make her out to be. They're saying her family, this. She's trying to kill Charlie. She wanted to. I mean, it's absolutely stupid. Anyone that knows Erica knows that she didn't like being in the spotlight. She wanted Charlie to be doing that stuff and she wanted to just be at home taking care of her kids.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

So now she's put in a position where her. Her husband dies in a horrible way. It goes all over the world. I would arguably say this is the most famous assassination of our generation. I mean, it's like, bottom line, it's gotta be. I think after this, MLK and JFK.

[Sean]

Are, you know, but that's like our parents era, though.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. But in our generation, it's the biggest one. All of a sudden, she Goes from being a mom. I used to see her all the time at the. At the building that I do my Bible studies at.

[Sean]

She.

[Alan Hid]

They had a condo there. She was always with. She was always with the kids on the rooftop, playing with them. Charlie was always traveling on the road, doing her thing. She did not want to. She did not want this role. I think there's a lot of pressure being put on her by the. The organization itself. Maybe even she's talking to God. God's telling her to. I don't know where it's coming from, but you got to understand, you're taking someone who was more of an introverted person who wasn't used to the limelight, and now you're throwing every camera on them and she's being microanalyzed by every freaking person. I just think. I don't. I just think it's unfair. And I think Candace is fake. I think she's fake as fuck. For. She knew this family. She knew Charlie, she knew his wife. I think she's jealous. I think she low key wanted to be Charlie's wife. I mean, if you think about it, Candice, if you look at those videos where Candace and Charlie were like dancing in the car and singing, I mean, dude, they look like. Like they had to have made out at least once. They had. They had to have it like some sort of chemistry. I don't think it was completely platonic.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

But I think Charlie wasn't really into her enough and he's. The rumor goes that he saw her at like a Trump rally and I think that's what happened. He fell in love with Erica and I think Candace got salty. She went for the next best thing, which was the UK turning point guy. And. But that's not enough for her, I guess. So I think she's just trying to take Erica down.

[Sean]

I feel that.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Do you also worry about the spread of Islam to the west as a Christian?

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Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, this is something recently I've been talking about a lot. Dude, it is. It is insane to me that you have Candace and Tucker that are in bed with Muslims. With Islam. Go read, Go. Look at the last like five posts from Tucker on his Facebook. All he's doing is talking about Qatar. Qatar this, Qatar that. You got all these idiotic right wingers that are now thinking Palestine is some innocent country that's hasn't done anything wrong. Well, guess what? You have. The thing that just happened in Australia. You have. Did you see two days ago the FBI just thwarted.

[Sean]

Oh, in Cali. Right.

[Alan Hid]

Cali guys got arrested. All Palestinian.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, they're pal.

[Sean]

Palestinian planning a terror attack.

[Alan Hid]

Oh, yeah. I think they're planning something here at Amfest too.

[Sean]

What?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. Potentially fucking serious, I think. So.

[Sean]

Security was insane today.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, it was. And it should be. When I went to the inauguration in D.C. i was very. I was really disappointed with how bad the security was.

[Sean]

It wasn't good.

[Alan Hid]

It wasn't good. I remember getting in there the day before the inauguration, driving through D.C. in an Uber. I barely saw any cops. It wasn't until like the day of. That you saw all the.

[Sean]

That's surprising.

[Alan Hid]

All the people. Yeah.

[Sean]

The assassination attempt too.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, I think it's messed up, but. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens here. Who knows?

[Sean]

Jesus. Not. I hope that doesn't happen. That's. That's awful.

[Alan Hid]

We're gonna run out the exit door.

[Sean]

I'm already looking for that. You got me thinking. Yeah, but you see Islam as a threat as a whole, or they call it radical Islam. Like, do you see it?

[Alan Hid]

So again, I like to look at things from a level headed perspective. I do. I think all Muslims are bad. No, I have friends that are Muslim that. That are decent people. But the radical Islam is definitely a problem. I think it's also. I think that's mental illness too. I think. I think people aren't. I think that needs to be treated like a mental illness. It needs to be treated. It's not normal. It's not Normal to want to go and kill people that don't have the same religion as you. I mean, that's something that people did in the. In the Bronze days. And then people are doing this in 2025.

[Sean]

Wild.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense. So, yeah, I think we need to get a grip on it. I think that anybody that has any link to any. Any sort of terroristic activity needs to be. Their visa needs to be revoked. They need to be out of the United States. They need to be questioned. If we can charge them with a crime, let's charge them with a crime.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

I am afraid that yesterday they just stopped another Muslim who was planning an attack in New Orleans.

[Sean]

Really?

[Alan Hid]

Which is my hometown, where I'm from. Yeah. This literally just happened yesterday.

[Sean]

Oh, my God.

[Alan Hid]

New Year's Eve. If you remember last New Year's Eve, they did a terrorist attack in New Orleans.

[Sean]

Oh, they did?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. That was the same day that. That the cybertruck blew up in Vegas.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hid]

In front of Trump Tower. And then New Orleans, 13 people were killed by a Muslim. And then we had the wildfires that later started.

[Sean]

I remember that cybertruck watch. Sean Ryan had someone on his show to talk about that one. That was weird.

[Alan Hid]

Very weird.

[Sean]

If it wasn't for the truck, the whole thing would have exploded.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But the Cybertruck kept it 100% contained and.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. And guess who was in office during that time. It was Biden. Still.

[Sean]

Oh, my God.

[Alan Hid]

Because, you know, Trump didn't get inaugurated to the 20th of January. So I. I think the Biden was administration was complicit in trying to hope and pray that Trump would get killed. And they did everything they could to make it in a situation where it was easy for someone to actually be able to do it.

[Sean]

I remember there's a viral video of Baron Trump whispering into Biden's ear, like, we know what you did. Have you seen that?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, many times.

[Sean]

That video is legendary.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And Biden's face looked, like, so shocked.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've heard things that he told him, like, f you or we're coming after you or. Or you're fucked. Yeah.

[Sean]

He's such a mystery dude.

[Alan Hid]

I hope one day that he gets in the political realm. I'm interested to see which Trump is going to step up.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

I love Trump. I think he's been the best president the US has ever had. There's nothing like him. And I want to see the legacy go on. Don't get me wrong, I think JD Is cool. I Think Rubio is cool. I'll be honest with you, though, I don't like politicians running for president.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

I think what made Trump so unique and awesome was that he was a business person and he wasn't in that world. So it'd be nice to see Don Jr. Run one day. I could see Laura Trump high up. I could see Eric potentially.

[Sean]

Right.

[Alan Hid]

Eric's actually starting to get. He used to be kind of more on the software. Nice side, but I've seen over the years that Eric has actually become more and more kind of like aggressive. Yeah. Like.

[Sean]

Yeah. I think book was good, by the way. I just finished it, Eric.

[Alan Hid]

Oh, it was good.

[Sean]

It was about. He was the most prosecuted man in history.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So it was about dealing with all the lawfare.

[Alan Hid]

Eric, specifically.

[Sean]

Eric was. Yeah. He got subpoenaed hundreds of times.

[Alan Hid]

Wow.

[Sean]

Because they couldn't get to Trump, I guess. So they were going after.

[Alan Hid]

And I met Eric several times. He has got to be one of the nicest guys, like, like, for the stature that he has. He's very nice, very humble.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

I remember when I used to work for the Trump team when I was younger, they had a lady outside of one of the rallies of the stadium, her car broke down. Her and Don got out, lifted her car to a gas station. Like she was like, in neutral.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

And they, like, pushed her car to a gas station.

[Sean]

Yeah. Wow.

[Alan Hid]

This was in like 2015.

[Sean]

That's crazy. So they were still big time.

[Alan Hid]

I mean. Yeah. Do you like what other billionaires kids, you know, that are like, are humble enough to, like, do something like that?

[Sean]

You can learn a lot about someone by their kids.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. You know, I think they're way more humble than their father is, but, I mean, it's just.

[Sean]

I can see that.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Trump. Trump. It's. It's his stubbornness that is his greatest asset and also, like his greatest, like.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Downfall, I think.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. Who do you. I'd be curious to know from your side, who do you think is the most of the kids similar to their.

[Sean]

Father, personality wise, or Baron.

[Alan Hid]

Baron.

[Sean]

He has three kids, right?

[Alan Hid]

Baron.

[Sean]

No, I'm saying Trump's kids. Baron.

[Alan Hid]

So he has Tiffany, he has Ivanka, he has Don.

[Sean]

Oh, Ivanka.

[Alan Hid]

He has Eric, and he has Baron.

[Sean]

I don't know Tiffany at all.

[Alan Hid]

She's kind of the least involved, I would say.

[Sean]

Junior.

[Alan Hid]

Junior. What do you think as far as, like, not giving a fuck and just saying what he wants? I think. Junior.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. I think as far as looks. Baron. Yeah, but it's like, we don't really know enough about his personality. I mean, I know Bo and him are best friends. Yeah. But I mean, he's still got many years. So we're. Me and you will be in our 40s or 50s by the time mirror.

[Sean]

You might be running by then.

[Alan Hid]

I. Yeah. Potentially.

[Sean]

Ever run for political office?

[Alan Hid]

I would.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

Yeah. I've considered it many times.

[Sean]

On a local level or I like.

[Alan Hid]

To do maybe Congress. I mean, I. I think, like, look, if aoc, who's a nut job, who was a bartender who just came out of nowhere, had no name recognition. Mandami, who. Same kind of situation, actually. His family was wealthy, though, but came out of nowhere. If those guys can do it. Yeah. Why not me? Like, I mean, dude, like, at the end of the day, these older Republicans that have. Hold the, the foothold, they're dying off. It's going to be up to people like me, people like you, people. At this event here at Turning Point, I do think Charlie would have been a president potentially in 10 to 15.

[Sean]

Years if he wanted to. He could have done it.

[Alan Hid]

He had enough clout.

[Sean]

Yeah. Donors. He had everything.

[Alan Hid]

He could have taken any of those Republicans on the stage and annihilated with his debate experience. Yeah, yeah, he would have annihilated them. I think he was a real person. I think he was very unique. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's crazy to me that. I mean, we're here at this event, there's tons of people that probably don't like Charlie on certain things, but people still respect him. Whatever you have to say about him, everyone respected him. Even, even Candace respected him. I think the only person that had real beef with him was. Was. Was Nick.

[Sean]

And that was because of personal reasons, I think.

[Alan Hid]

Because I. I think Charlie made a mistake. I think. What? Ha. You ever seen the movie the Incredibles?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

Do you remember how the. The kid that looked up to Mr. Incredible, but his name was Buddy?

[Sean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Alan Hid]

He, like, he wanted to help Mr. Incredible and Mr. Incredible dismissed him. And then he became his enemy when he got older.

[Sean]

And, like, that's a good analogy.

[Alan Hid]

I think that's what Charlie did to Nick.

[Sean]

I think over time, they would have made up.

[Alan Hid]

I think they could have been friends. I think. I think Charlie could have used him for Turning Point. And I really think if you go listen to Nick, dude, he looked up to all this stuff. He looked up to back. Back in the day. He looked up to Charlie 100. I think Charlie at that time's mentality was, I want to be the number one guy. I want to be that guy. So anyone who's a threat to that, I'm not going to pay attention. That much attention to. But also, I think Nick probably said some things that pissed him off easily. And I think. I do think Nick was set on, hey, I'm going to take out Charlie. I'm going to be the person who's going to be the next person. So I understand why Charlie grew to hate him a lot and dislike him, but I also think it was a fatal mistake. I always think it's better to be close to your enemies than easily close.

[Sean]

Right.

[Alan Hid]

Keep your enemies close to you because if. If you dismiss them, eventually they're gonna grow and they're gonna take you out.

[Sean]

Yup. I think it could have been fixed with the conversation. Yeah. I think if those two sat in a room together for three hours, yeah. They could have squashed it.

[Alan Hid]

100.

[Sean]

But, dude, this was great. Where can people find you?

[Alan Hid]

Yeah, they can find me on Instagram. My username is Alan Hid. So at symbol and then A L, A N, H, I, D. Perfect.

[Sean]

Yeah, check them out, guys. Peace.

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