Digital Social Hour: The Science Behind EMF & Airestech’s Game-Changing Solution
Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Episode: The Science Behind EMF & Airestech’s Game-Changing Solution | Airestech DSH #1366
Date: May 8, 2025
Episode Overview
In this episode, Sean Kelly welcomes Josh (Airestech CEO) and Dr. Nicholas Dogris, a neuroscientist and founder of Neurofield Incorporated, for an in-depth discussion on the science behind electromagnetic fields (EMF), their physiological impacts, and how Airestech offers a solution. The team explores live brain scan and heart data, explains the mechanisms of EMF’s influence on health, and tackles skepticism in the EMF protection industry—including direct critiques of debunkers. The conversation is both technical and personal, offering a unique window into real-world testing, peer-reviewed studies, and broader cultural implications.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Background & Setup for the Live EMF Test
- Participants: Sean Kelly (Host, Test Subject), Josh (Airestech), Dr. Dogris (Neurofield)
- The Test:
- Baseline EEG and heart rate variability (HRV) readings.
- Exposure to a live mobile phone (no protection) for 5 minutes; repeated measurements.
- Exposure to a live mobile phone with an Airestech device for 5 minutes; repeated measurements.
- Results compared and analyzed with FDA-cleared equipment.
- Purpose: To visibly demonstrate physiological changes due to EMF and Airestech’s protective effects.
“We put a 19 channel cap on your head and we did three recordings... The third one was another recording after you had been exposed to a live phone that had ARES protection on it. And I conducted a comparison analysis between these records to see what changed from your baseline to the exposure.”
— Dr. Dogris [02:10]
2. Dr. Dogris’s Skepticism and Discovery
- Dr. Dogris shares initial skepticism toward EMF protection products—citing previous encounters with ineffective “sticker” products.
- Expressed surprise at positive test results using his own FDA-cleared devices and rigorous methodologies.
“In typically emf, devices that I had evaluated prior to Aries were questionable... And I was very, very surprised by the data... because I was the one that collected the data using one of my devices, which is an FDA EEG cleared device...”
— Dr. Dogris [09:31]
3. Impact of EMF Exposure on Heart and Brain
A. Heart Rate Variability (HRV)
- Baseline: Balanced between sympathetic (alert, active) and parasympathetic (relaxed) states.
- Phone (No Protection): Spike in sympathetic activity—mimicking stress response seen in first responders, anxiety, PTSD.
- With Airestech: Reversal—parasympathetic activity dominated, HRV stabilized; signs of relaxation and foundational health restoration.
“The LF band, the sympathetic arm almost doubled as compared to the parasympathetic arm... This is a profile that I have seen with first responders, people diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety.”
— Dr. Dogris [13:45]
“When you did the second exposure with the Aries present, then we saw a different presentation... The parasympathetic activation goes off the scale, and the sympathetic activation drops dramatically. And that happened within a period of five minutes.”
— Dr. Dogris [14:23]
B. EEG Brainwave Patterns
- With Phone: Marked drop in delta activity (rest, recovery function), significant rise in gamma and beta (associated with alertness, anxiety, rumination).
- With Airestech: Restoration of delta and a healthy increase in alpha waves (linked to relaxed wakefulness, focus, and optimal brain function).
“Delta is your brake pedal, right? So delta going down and the higher frequencies going up is not a good combination. A Healthy brain is a balanced brain.”
— Dr. Dogris [37:37]
“With the Aries device, your delta evened out and the alpha came up in your frontal lobe and it really did come up in a healthy way...”
— Dr. Dogris [38:38]
4. Long-term & Systemic Effects of EMF Exposure
- Physiological Stress: Chronic over-activation of the sympathetic nervous system inhibits relaxation/“housekeeping”—including detoxification, repair, and can predispose to anxiety, autoimmune, and degenerative diseases.
- Adaptation Theory: The body, over time, may adapt/mutate in response to chronic exposures, with unpredictable health outcomes.
“If you stay [in sympathetic mode], it’s kind of like driving a car in red line... Over time, that will translate to illnesses... Those kinds of toxins in your body... can impact all the systems like your kidneys, your liver, your stomach, your heart... and eventually could turn into really bad diseases.”
— Dr. Dogris [20:16]
5. Prevalence & Cultural Awareness of EMF
- Everyday Devices: Phones, smartwatches, fridges, hair dryers, cars, even powered chairs contribute to pervasive EMF exposure.
- Younger Generations: Greater sensitivity/effects in youth—likely due to earlier and chronic exposure (the "anxiety generation").
- Growing Awareness: Cited presidential executive order referencing EMF’s chronic disease potential; increase in public concern and search for solutions.
“Apple Watch is one of the number one products that people find their way to us, is their experience with the Apple Watch... Smartwatches in general seem to be a triggering product for some reason.”
— Josh [22:07]
“Every time we do this test and the young people react pretty wildly. The swings are pretty wild. Older people, I would say 45 and older... the stuff that we've done. But young people, it's pretty wild.”
— Josh [26:25]
6. Critique of the EMF Protection Market & Mythbusting
- Skepticism of “Blockers” & Stickers: Most “blocking” products are ineffective; genuine blocking requires rare/expensive materials (military-use); “blocking” can worsen exposure by reflecting and amplifying EMF or causing devices to overheat.
- Importance of Peer Review & Transparency: AirTech claims robust scientific validation, multiple international patents, openness about studies, and regulatory compliance—distinguishing itself from less scrupulous competitors.
“There are a lot of bad players... Most of these other companies, almost every company in the wellness space doesn't have to go through the amount of regulation and scrutiny that we do.”
— Josh [52:00]
“There’s only certain kind of metals that will actually block it. And the US Military has those metals.”
— Dr. Dogris [49:30]
7. Addressing Public Skepticism and Media Critiques
- Linus Tech Tips Critique: Responded to a popular tech YouTuber's negative review, clarifying that AriesTech doesn’t block EMF but optimizes its interaction with biology—a nuanced, misunderstood approach.
- Empathy Toward Skepticism: Recognizes confusion and poor understanding in the space and advocates for better communication and direct, peer-reviewed testing.
“He was using, I think, an EMF reader, and he had all this production value that was really cool. But... it was just straight up... not what we do... He tested us as if we were blocking emf... you will never win [by trying to block].”
— Josh [44:50]
8. The Science & Technology of Airestech
- How It Works: Utilizes a silicon resonator with fractal geometric design, creating a wide-frequency, stable, and coherent field that interacts with EMF, redistributing and reducing its biologically disruptive effects.
- Physics, Not Pseudoscience: Based on established scientific principles—uses geometric modulation (fractal antennas), constructive/destructive interference, and depolarization.
“Our product is very similar in the fact that we’re using a silicon resonator... What those are, are fractals... So our fractal takes the ambient EMF that’s emitted by our technologies... it’s reshaped to create a stable field... that is tuned specifically over a wide range of frequencies that the body’s resonating with...”
— Josh [58:30]
9. Clinical Implications and Observations
- Mental Health and Performance: Athletes and high-performance individuals are especially aware of the effects—many incorporate EMF mitigation strategies for optimal sleep and recovery.
- Broader Applications: Cited integration with professional sports teams (e.g., Timberwolves) and organizations (e.g., UFC Performance Institute).
- Science-Driven Direction: Endorsed by clinicians seeing improvement in anxiety and relaxation among patients after implementing Airestech.
“Athletes know, they're the first ones that will tell you the cell phone is out of the room or turned off completely... have a strategy around mitigating EMF and EMR exposure.”
— Josh [41:21]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
On Personal Skepticism and Surprising Results
“I was very, very surprised by the data and because I was the one that collected the data... it’s going to do it accurately. And so, yeah, I was pretty surprised and pleasantly surprised.”
— Dr. Dogris [10:05]
On Sympathetic Nervous System Activation from EMF
“This is a profile that I have seen with first responders, people diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety. So it's obvious that this phone had an impact on you that created a more sympathetic response in your heart.”
— Dr. Dogris [13:45]
On the Misconception of “Blocking” EMFs
“The US Military has those metals. It's not something that's easily accessible by the general population or companies, and it's incredibly expensive. So a blocker is going to probably not exist.”
— Dr. Dogris [49:30]
On Scientific Rigor
“We’re a publicly traded company... We are, we're a publicly traded company... we're traded in the U.S. Europe and Canada. And so ours has been rigorously and like the scrutiny on our stuff has been pretty great.”
— Josh [53:30]
On Biological Principles of Airestech
“The body does not respond well to square waves... when we look at... the Aries effect, the spectra actually gets more organized... it took you in the direction you need to go, not in the one that's going to make it more difficult for you to function.”
— Dr. Dogris [62:13]
Timestamps of Key Segments
- [02:10] — Test protocol and rationale explained
- [07:54] — Dr. Dogris’s scientific skepticism and initial impressions
- [13:45] — Heart data: The impact of phone, and effect of Airestech
- [18:13] — Physiological stress explained
- [22:07] — Devices emitting EMF; prevalence in daily life
- [26:25] — Greater impact on younger people (“anxiety generation”)
- [30:25] — Brain state and performance implications (athletes, sleep, relaxation)
- [35:53] — EEG findings: gamma, delta, alpha activity shifts
- [38:38] — Restorative brain effects of Airestech; alpha wave significance
- [41:21] — Elite athletes’ strategies for EMF, sleep, and longevity
- [44:50] — Response to Linus Tech Tips and media skepticism
- [49:30] — Why EMF “blocking” is scientifically unsound
- [58:30] — In-depth explanation of Airestech’s mechanism
- [62:13] — Dr. Dogris’s closing perspective on data and clinical outcomes
Summary Table: Experimental Results
| Condition | Heart Response | Brain Response | |--------------------------|------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------| | Baseline | Balanced, relaxed HRV | Healthy mix of brain waves | | Phone (No Protection) | Spike in sympathetic/”stress” response | Decreased delta, increased gamma/beta (anxiety) | | Phone + Airestech | Spike in parasympathetic/relaxation | Increased/restored alpha, balanced frequencies |
Closing Thoughts
This episode provides a rare synthesis of clinical testing, neuroscience, and the intersection of public skepticism and new health technology. The conversation is both scientifically rigorous and accessible, offering clear explanations and data, and candidly addressing controversy in the EMF protection industry.
“Instead of being scared about it, we should be proactive about it and come up with ways to be able to create healthy environments. You know, this is one of the ways to do that.”
— Dr. Dogris [55:59]