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The Science of Intuition: Boosting Business Acumen | Cortney Kane Sides DSH #894
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🔮 Unlock the power of intuition in business with Cortney Kane Sides! 🚀 Dive into the fascinating world of spiritual connections and how they can boost your business acumen. Cortney shares mind-blowing insights on tapping into your inner wisdom, heal
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There's a quantum physics quote. What is observed has changed. Once we see it, we are able to then say, ah, that's what that is. And then choose to heal from it or choose to do something from it. In my sessions, I paint every session. You get a snapshot of the energy of you, whether that's your aura or the sign or symbol from your loved one. You know, different little trinkets and things. The symbols of those belongings can come through in those sessions.
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B
All right, guys, got Courtney Kane Sides here. Coming fresh off the Forbidden Knowledge award show. It was great meeting you there.
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A
It was so awesome to see you there on the boat, on the water.
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B
Yeah, that was a blast.
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It was so much fun. The energy in that room as an introvert. Are you an introvert, Sean? I am, too. And so lots of people. Water. And then the music, which was so awesome, by the way. I kind of was like, okay, this was so much fun. And so I felt myself kind of like. Like, this was great, but it was a really, really beautiful party. And congratulations on your win.
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B
Oh, thank you. Yeah, the energy and the connections that have come from that event. Insane.
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A
It's. It. I. What I think is really beautiful is being on the Forbidden Knowledge team. When they say Forbidden Knowledge family, it truly is a family. Like, everybody really looks out for each other, and it's just something. It's something else.
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B
That's what I noticed. I've never seen another conference highlight their employees on stage like that.
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A
Isn't that cool?
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B
Yeah, that was really cool of them. And everyone was so happy.
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What's also, like, even today, I was, like, messaging some of them and saying, hey, oh, my gosh, like, watching the teamwork, because, you know, I have a podcast there on the network, but, you know, some of the other team members are really behind the scenes doing that. You know, all the things that nobody sees right to make such a. What. Such a conference run so smoothly. And so they really worked their hearts out. So they did a great job.
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B
How'd you meet them? How'd you meet Billy and Elizabeth?
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So Elizabeth has been a client of mine for 10 years.
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B
Oh, really?
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Yeah. So she's been. I mean, we've been through so many different things through the years, and Billie now for, you know, three. Almost four years now, I've had a podcast on their channel, like, for three years now, too. And so it's been really interesting. But to see the growth, you know, in. In her and even the growth of both of them is just really, really cool.
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B
Yes, you were. You were helping her out before she even met him.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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B
That's impressive. Yeah, yeah. She's had a. Quite a personal transformation. She's been on the show twice to talk about it.
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Listen, let me tell you that she is my. And the reason I always say that she is a client who's also been with me for so long is because she first of all listens, she heals, she does her own inner work and then listens and trusts her own intuition, her guides and angels, and she's. She's. Can I curse? Yeah, she's a badass. But it's all because of action. So, you know, if you're seeking somebody like myself, if you do nothing with it, you know, nothing changes. If nothing changes. But if you listen and you show up for you, you show up with, you know, every morning. Your last guest, I was listening everything he was saying at the very tail end of that podcast was so awesome. I was like, yeah, you've got to get up. You've got to trust. You've got to go somewhere. You've got to get up and do some things. Trust in God, source, universe. And she's done the work, but the healing work. And many people are too. They're not always so brave enough to do that because it means it's up to them.
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B
Yeah, you got to be vulnerable, too. That's the tough part, right?
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It is the tough part.
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Yeah. Just admitting in the first place you might have some trauma or something. We all do, everyone.
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And it never. It's like constant healing, by the way, too. So just when we think we've healed it all. Mm, here it goes. Yet again.
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B
Yeah, it's like never ending, right?
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A
Yeah, yeah, but never ending. And I call it like upcycling. So, yeah, most. Some people are like, it always happens to me. This always. You know, it's always the same thing or the trauma kind of keeps them in the loop. But if we're healing the loop of, oh, man, this life is happening, but we expect and we heal and we grow. And so it continues to go up rather than just staying the same.
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B
And so, yeah, so how are you identifying trauma with your clients and what techniques are you doing to fix it?
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So I am a spiritual advisor, psychic medium. And when I'm connecting to my clients, very often in my sessions, they're very often shocked if they're a new client of mine. They're shocked at as in depth as we go as we get, because the, you know, the information that will come through will be, yes, current day things that maybe they need to hear. We might be connecting to their loved ones on the other side, healing that maybe they needed to hear words or find connection in a way that they didn't while that person was here alive. And so those messages will come through signs and symbols, things that you can't make up. Right. And even if we're looking at business or, you know, different aspects of their life, whatever is blocking them will come through in those sessions. And their guides will give them, you know, tools and, you know, an outlook of, this is what it looks like today, but if you do that work, this is where we're going. And so I posted today, I have a client who she's today a flight attendant, and she's still very young and, you know, flying the world internationally and all of this. But, you know, a few years ago, she was calling me, and that's all she ever really wanted was to be a particular flight attendant on a particular airline. And she was just distraught because it was try after try after try of it not happening. And she would have these sessions, and it was hard sometimes for her to trust it because it hadn't fallen into place yet. But the thing is, she kept doing the work and she never gave up. And she posted, she's now on all their social media and she's doing the thing. And so she sent me a reel today. I saw it and I said, can I share it? And she said, yes. And so I just. I'm just so darn proud of her, you know. Well, yeah. And so. So many different things in sessions don't. It takes time for those things to fall into place, just like it did with, you know, my friend Elizabeth, my sweet Elizabeth, who. It takes time for those things to fall into place. And so, yeah, I like this form.
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Of therapy because it's more subconscious because I've been a regular therapist and it feels kind of like surface level, you know, it's just your conscious mind.
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I have so many psychologists and therapists that are clients of mine, and I think they use me as their therapist. And I have a group of therapists and psych nurses, even that book. They have a regular group that they do a big group session with me, sometimes monthly. It might be bimonthly, but they all come. It's about 10 or 12 of them. And we do this beautiful group session. And it's really, really interesting because they also need to work through their own stuff that they're helping other people work through. But I teach at psychologists and therapists retreats, and many of them are my own clients.
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B
Wow. When did you realize you had these abilities?
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The psychic intuition part of that, which, by the way, the word psychic or medium, I honestly feel like those labels are kind of old.
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B
It has a negative stigma, right?
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It does. I was also raised Southern Baptist, but I've been doing this work now 20 years. So I'm definitely beyond any, you know, feeling any which way about those things. But I think we all have that. I know we all have those abilities. And I think that when we heal and we connect to our own divine source and light, psychic or medium is simply a symptom of finding our true connection to God, to source. I do believe that. I see that every day in my clients. But growing up as a young girl, I could walk in a room and meet somebody and just know them without getting massive details necessarily. But I could feel, if that makes sense, their energy. Their energy. There were no words that were needed. It was just really beautiful. And I would have premonitions, dreams that would come through that with hindsight. Time later, I would see them fall into place. But it wasn't until my mother passed when I was 15, and she came to me in a dream seven days after her passing. And it was something. You maybe have had an experience like this. So many people do. But she came to me and she said, hey. And I'm like, you're dead. You're not supposed to be alive. And she said, I'm okay. And she raised her arms and she hugged me. And when she hugged me, that empty void, that feeling, you know, that. That empty blackness when we lose somebody we really love, was full. And I woke up and I told my father and my crazy Aunt Sharon told her, hey, I had this dream. And she said, courtney, I don't think that that was a dream. I think your mother came to you. So it was at that point that I started to write everything down. My premonitions, my knowing, my dreams of connection to loved ones in a notebook. And I call it the I'm not crazy book, because I'm a skeptic. I think most people, even who do what I do, are full of it until you prove me otherwise. So I think it's really healthy to think that way, which I think is why I have a lot of psychologists and therapists, but. And male clients as well. But it took a. It took a long time. But if you write those experiences down, you will prove to yourself and not need any outside validation that you're connected.
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B
Right? You can see the proof.
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It's crazy. It's beautiful.
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B
My dad visited me in my dreams a few times.
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And you knew that. So how did it feel when that happened?
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Yeah, he just passed and it actually felt like I was in his dream. It was kind of trippy. He was trying to show me something, I think, you know.
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So I would encourage you to write down as much of the details that you can remember from that dream. I always date those dreams with certain loved ones that would come to me. I would find that they would always come around certain times. I have a friend that passed when I was like 18 or 19, and after writing all of this down, I started to notice the pattern. There's always a pattern. And it was always August, September, when he would come around.
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B
Interesting.
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Yeah. Well, I realized it was his birthday and his passing day. But you will find the proof and the connection. We're all connected. So, you know that's your dad.
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I think so, yeah.
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Write it down. You will have your own proof in time. You will not need any proof outside of yourself. And so if you start to do that, you'll see it. Science is catching up.
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B
Absolutely. So do you think the spirit world is linked to the dream world? In a way?
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I do. I think when I analyze dreams for clients, I analyze them and I analyze them analytically. Like what's happening in your everyday. Were you watching a scary movie before you went to bed? You know, all of those things. But then I look at it in that way, but then spiritually, and then, you know, is this trying to show you something? So I look at the dream in different. I try to peel it away in certain. Certain different layers.
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B
I like how you incorporate both. Because a lot of spiritual coaches get a little too extreme.
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You know, I mo. Many of my clients, the I. The word woo woo is used a lot in this world. Right. And I think many of my clients wish I were more woo woo. But, um, listen, I love a crystal ball. I have them in my. On my dining room table. They're gorgeous. But I don't need it. I don't use it. I don't have crystals in my pockets or anything like that.
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B
You got this, though. What's up?
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I. Oh, I do. I love this. I do love this, but I don't need this. Does that make sense?
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Yeah. Is that a crystal?
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It's actually got like a pearl and it's actually not a crystal, but it's a third eye. They say I don't know who they are, but. But that it wards evil and things like that.
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Protection.
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But I like it. It's not needed. My bubble protects me. Does that make sense?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So I don't need anything outside of myself to do any of that.
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Yeah, that's just like a last, like, defense for me.
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It's jewelry.
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Got it.
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Yeah. So just aesthetically, yeah, for me, that's what that is. And so I believe that if we are truly connected, we can bubble up and protect our own energies. And that's essentially what I do. But I like balance in my life. And so I think that's why I have a lot of high executive cl again, therapists and, you know, clients that call about just love. They want to know what's happening in their love life or what. And we can do that too, you.
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B
Know, so you'd be surprised, people watching this. How many high level CEOs use some sort of spiritual coach?
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I have so many.
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There's a lot. A lot of them are ashamed to talk about it.
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I think some of them are. I have many. I have some clients. Clients that I used to have a studio office and all of that. And now I just essentially do virtual and locally in person and things like that now. But when I had my larger studio, people did sometimes want to go out the back door, and they were the high executives or very religious. So I've had some that were ministers and preachers that come to me as well, but they don't. They would never say it and they would never do that. They would never say it. But I do have a handful of high executives that do use me in their business and in their work. I mean, I've got one that called last week. They're about to close on a island in Fiji, which is incredible. Pretty, pretty amazing.
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B
Yeah. That's awesome. No, it's helped me take my business and personal life to the next level.
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Do you feel like it's helped your healing?
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Yes. Yeah, definitely. Because there's traumas I had that I didn't even know I had, and it was affecting me.
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And blocking.
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Blocking. Affecting me financially.
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I was gonna say abundance in all forms, right?
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Yep.
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Yeah, it does. So I think that that's the cool thing that I find is that when we're. When we shed those different layers that. That sometimes are layers that we're not even, like you said, aware of when we understand them. There's a quantum physics quote. What is observed has changed. Once we see it, we are able to then say, ah, that's what that is. And then choose to heal from it or choose to do something from it. In my sessions, I paint, I finger paint. And those sessions, whether it's a 30 minute, 90 minute or an ongoing series of sessions. Every. Every session you get a snapshot of the energy of you, whether that's your aura or the sign or symbol from your loved one.
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B
Wow.
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Yeah. It's really interesting. Yeah.
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I've never heard of.
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It's on my website. Yeah. Or even on Instagram. You should see it. Yeah. It is really cool. And so what's really cool about that is it can be the cardinal, it can be the bird that comes through and visits you and, you know, your father coming to you. It could be the sign of the necklace that you wear that is still his or was his and, you know, different little trinkets and things. The symbols of those belongings can come through in those sessions. And so they. I finger paint them. And it's a snapshot of the energy.
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So cool. There's been certain animals that I've just randomly walked into outside that I feel like a spiritual connection with.
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And, you know.
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Yeah.
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You know that there's a connection that. So when. When we have. I call those aha moments. When we have those aha moments, in that moment, I stop from that tip of my toe. I take a full four count breath in and hold that pause there. Both my parents have passed. Um, I pause If I'm seeing a sign of my loved one, my mom or my father, I take that breath in. And on the pause, I'm saying, thank you, thank you. Thank you, mom. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Dad. I love you. I know you're with me. And I exhale that energy out and I breathe them into my life, into my space. And I think that's the missing piece that most people don't realize that they're. We're. They're connected to us. They're not outside of us. They're within us.
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Yeah. That closure is super important for people. I remember when my dad passed, if I didn't have that closure, it would have really eaten at me, I think.
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Well, and for years.
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For years.
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And if you breathe them in, I heard you say at the awards that you have a fiance, so congratulations. Yeah. And, you know, I think that when we have different marks on life like that too, we feel like they're missing out. But if we're truly breathing and connecting, you can understand that you're actually there. You're taking them within every moment of life with you. And so we won't necessarily miss them in a way that we have missed them before. So many people don't allow themselves to find that there's a healing connection There. And so it will stay as grief in their energy and hurt.
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A lot of people live like that, right? I'm sure you see it all the.
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Time with your clients, all the time in men especially. They. They don't cry.
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I didn't for years. I didn't cry. So my dad passed away and I was trying to hold back the tears because I was so programmed to not show weakness, you know what I mean? With my own dad dying, I was trying to hold it back. And I was alone too. So, yeah, I didn't cry for probably 10 years.
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And. And then once you did, do you feel like that you accessing that emotion that if you felt ever since I.
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Did now I can cry easily. Yeah. Definitely activated. I felt like I was blocking it for a while.
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And Sean, I think that when we're able to do that, it actually, in time, if you have children or if you ever choose to do that, when you're able to move through and allow yourself to have emotions like that, we're teaching our children that it's okay. And for me, I think why it's so important in my sessions is that every session I'm reminded when messages come through for the client that court, your mom and dad are also still with you because you just can't make the stuff up that comes through. I love that. Yeah. And so when we do that and we allow that to be expressed, our little ones, they see it, they feel it. So every time we breathe, and you don't have to be woo woo about it, just breathe them in, exhale them out, and your children will. Will feel your. The presence of their ancestors, really. Yeah, they will. My little girl, she's nine. And when she was probably a year and a half old, I remember we had just moved into. I just bought a new home and was sitting there in her little bald head. We were sitting on a chair and I had only had one little picture up and I. There was a family picture of everybody on my mother's side of the family, and all the aunts, all the uncles, all the cousins. And I was little in the picture. My mother and father were in it, but they weren't standing next to each other. And she leans into this picture and she says, that's my grandma and that's my papa. She never knew them and she doesn't really have grandparents. Right. And so she's never really even heard those terms. There's no reason why she would have first of all known exactly who they were in the image and nor really even understood those words. And so I grabbed my phone and just took a. I've got the sweetest picture of the back of her head pointing to that painting or to the picture. But what was cool was that for me, that was a sign that she. Whether that was, you know, when I was pregnant with her, if her soul was still with them, or which I like to believe that I feel like, how do we have proof? We don't really have proof until we're there. Right. But I know that she's had contact and connection with them. And I do believe it's because I breathe them into our space, our life.
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B
What about animals?
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Animals absolutely come through in sessions. Yeah, absolutely come through. I had a really cool experience. A big group group session in Oklahoma City. And the. A woman was coming in and she'd had a great session already. She had been picked from the crowd. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this dog just comes running through. And as soon as the dog came through and sat right there with her, she just. I mentioned it, of course, and the dog explained and described this dog to her. And she just started to, of course, show great emotion. Crying.
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Wow.
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And it all matched to a T. And the. The dog. I want to say child, because so many of our dogs are not, you know, the animals are our babies. And for her, it meant everything to have a sign that. That that baby was with her, that fur baby was still there. But they are, they are with us.
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They seem so spiritual. Like when I start breathing heavy, my dog comes right next to me. It's crazy. Like he could sense my stress.
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What's cool to me is it's telepathic. You know, they don't really need to hear your words. They feel you. Right. And so I think that they're connected, like little ones to a way that we kind of get desensitized to. Right. So they're just so empathic and they feel us in a way. I think true connection to spirituality is there's no words for it.
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Yeah.
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That's why that breath is so important. So I love that you notice that when your breath changes, your dog can immediately.
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Oh, he senses it. Yeah, Right away.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Kids seem very spiritual too. Like babies and young kids.
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Yeah. I think I do know that so many little ones, I do have clients that will bring in their children here and there. I think they're. For me, as a mother, I have a 27 year old and a 9 year old and, you know, they both have different abilities. And I've seen it. The. My oldest doesn't Necessarily own all of her gifts and abilities in the way that I would say that I can see them in her. But it took a long time for me to really own my gifts and abilities. So I think it was like 26, 27, when I was really starting to kind of say, okay, there is something to this. I knew it. But I needed that concrete proof again, because I'm a skeptic. So the little ones are absolutely connected. They see auras. I remember when my youngest was really young, I was doing a session with somebody, and she. The client walked in, and my little one looked right up to her and said something that I was just like, oh, my goodness. But she sensed her energy, you know, and she had no filter. So I just was like, oh, my gosh. But they do. They feel all of those things. That's why you will also see children be nervous sleeping by themselves or afraid of the dark. Were you ever afraid of.
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B
I was so afraid, I had to sleep with the light on.
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Me, too. Me too. It's. It's because we're sensitive.
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B
Yeah. I found out my house was haunted, actually, later on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. That's crazy.
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A
Have you had many houses that felt like they were haunted?
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I only remember that one because I basically grew up there. But the weird thing is because I travel a lot now. When I sleep in hotels, I have nightmares almost every time.
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So I. Almost every home that I ever lived in, we, My family, too, lived in one home. But after that, as a young adult moving out into my own place, I noticed that it felt like many of those homes had different energies kind of in them. And I would have then called them haunted. What I kind of realized, one of them, I think, was for sure haunted. But I think what I realized is that I could just feel everything. It was just a sensitivity, just overwhelming. Yeah. And so think about what you do. Right? And so when you're going into these hotels, I mean, you connect with people all over the world. Right. And if you're not clearing your kind of energy, or even that breath, for me, is like a clearing of the energy. If you're not necessarily doing that, but then you're walking into. Sleeping into these hotels where turnover after turnover after energy. I think it's probably because it may not be because the hotels themselves are actually haunted, although some of them may be. It may be because you're just so highly tuned in that maybe learning how to block that outside energy more so is probably important.
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Wow, that's good to know. But that's such a good point because there's so many people sleeping there. Who knows what they're dealing with and leaving behind.
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Yes, exactly. And, ooh, by the way, who wants to connect to all of that? So I'll teach you if you want to know.
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B
I'd love to.
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Yeah.
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Because literally every hotel, I sleep in nightmares. This whole Miami trip, every single night, I had a nightmare. Yeah.
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Really? Yeah. Help you? Yeah. Message or. I'll. We'll just. I'll show you how to do it. And just. It's really important to trust what you're doing and trust that you have the authority to. To block and to say, this isn't happening. And so very interesting.
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Yeah. Because after events like that, where you're shaking so many hands, you kind of leave drained.
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You do. You do. And so that. Again, that breathing. There's certain techniques that I use to help shield that energy. I always have a. I also have a phrase that I use as much peopling as I do. I need eight equal amount downtime. And you and I both know the conference was, first of all, so amazing. And there were a lot of people. Right. And think about it. You know, water acts as a conductor. We were on that yacht, right. And that water amplifies anything that's kind of going on.
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B
There were some really interesting people on that yacht.
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Really interesting. And high energy. Right. And so all of that. Think about that. What do we do? We went home. We took it at home with us, right? Yeah. We took it home and into those hotels. We gotta cleanse. Exactly.
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When I moved in my house, I cleansed it so well. Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you do that or do you have somebody do that?
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B
Me and my fiance do it.
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Good. I'm a huge believer that you don't really need to have somebody come in and do that. I try to teach all of my clients. I get those calls where they're like, will you come and clear this and cleanse it? And I'm like, I will give you a stick of sage. And, you know.
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B
Yeah. It was fun.
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It is fun.
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I love sage.
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Yeah. It doesn't have to be that. That difficult.
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No. Yeah. Just walk around. It was cool. I love that you've made a few videos on aliens.
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I have, yeah.
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What's your takeaway there? Because there's a lot of theories on aliens and Robert Greer, by the way, that was one of the most emotional speeches I've seen. That was really.
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Stephen Greer or Stephen Greer. Yes. So, yeah, I was geeking out. First of all, when that disclosure happened. What was it, like a year ago? I Was kind of watching it, was aware of it. And then Billy and Elizabet were both there. And so I was texting her, like, oh, my gosh, you're there. And so I was at home, like in tears, crying because you. You watch this stuff. And just like he said if you'd have told him 30 years ago that this was happening, that you would just think, there's no way. And he also said that back then, if you told him that the government was going to be disclosing in the way that they had and all of this information that science were backing some of this, that you. He would have just thought it was nuts. I actually, that's that exact saying I feel like you can say about the work that I do. And so 100% science is learning. And governments have been using my work and others forever. And they just keep it on the down low so people don't grow, I believe is how that works. But as far as aliens go, I had an event happen when I was a little girl. Billy and I spoke about this on his podcast as well. And it was really disturbing. And it was something I didn't talk about for a long time. And I spoke about it. It was a year ago, this past January, and it made me very emotional. It was. It was frightening. It wasn't all like, ooh, exciting to kind of think about that in terms of aliens. But I think that there is good connections. There are good connections and there are not so good connections to have just like in this own. In this world. Right. There's beautiful energies and there's not so beautiful energies. And so I believe that it's all very real. And I think it's been happening for a very long time. And I think that contact's been being made in some of those. Maybe the contact that doesn't feel good is actually not aliens, but more governmental science project. What I believe that experience I had when I was young, I think was more so as I'm gaining even more knowledge and tuning into it, it feels more so like that. Even though that feels very. It was a very traumatic experience. And so it wasn't an easy thing.
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B
Yeah, well, the government's 100 aware and doing it because I know people that astral project in remote view. They can't even go to Area 51 or anything. They'll block it off.
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They do, they do. They're aware of all that I saw there. It was. I had two experiences. There was an experience I lived in Phoenix for like 10 years. And my ex husband, who has since Passed. We had just moved there. We were there maybe about a year at this time, and we were both asleep. We had gone out the night before, had a couple of drinks, and we were. All of a sudden there was like this kind of energy and we woke up and nothing was said, but I knew he was awake. And it was almost as if we had been like thrown back into our beds. It was very. I didn't talk about this for a production. I don't even love to use the word because I am such a skeptic. I mean, I. And so to say that, oh, this in fact happened. I also still want proof. Even though I can tune into it, I know exactly what that was. And I think, yes, it was that. But as the person who experienced it, you know, we were so raised for so long to think that that was crazy, Right. And so I think still, in my own mind, I probably need trauma therapy over it, right? But it feels. It feels crazy. It just feels odd to be able to say that out loud still. And so because it was a true experience, it wasn't just, oh, fun, whatever. But we woke up that will want feeling. And we felt like we were just kind of put back into our space. And my eyes were wide up. It wasn't like we were groggy waking up. It was like wide awake. And I. We said, what was. Or I said, what was that? And we both, at the same time said aliens at the exact same time. And he was executive left brain, absolutely did not believe in any of this, even my own work. He was like, you know, until later in time, he saw proof for sure. But we had another experience in Phoenix, Arizona. We were on Camelback Mountain. I was grabbing food and he's calling me. I finally answered the phone and he's like, do you see it? Where are you? I tell him, he said, look up. And I looked up. And it was the triangular shaped. Yeah. And he was never the same after that.
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B
And this was during the day?
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No, this was evening. So it was evening. It was probably. It was, duh. Like it was evening. Dark. It was dark, yeah.
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B
And it was just a triangular. Was it flying shape.
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A
It was huge, but it was more hovering and just going roar. Like, like just a slow, slow movement. And at that point, I was still doing radio shows. Lots of. They called it online radio, they didn't call it podcast back then. And so they were saying that most of those vehicles were more government vehicles, but we both saw that. And he, again, he was never the same after that.
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B
Shook him up.
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A
Oh, yeah, it Scared him, yeah, because he's so logical.
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B
Right. He couldn't explain it.
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A
So left brain, he was like, you know, he. I just don't think he ever really wanted me to be right, you know, because it was just something that he could not control, you know.
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B
And so you spent your whole life thinking logically, mathematically, that was him. And then something happens.
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A
That was him. Yeah.
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B
That is crazy.
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A
It is crazy.
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B
You made a few videos on birthmarks?
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A
Yes, I have a couple, yes. Yes.
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B
So you found out what that means, basically?
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A
Well, I can tune in and we can connect to the guides and angels and channel the information that comes through for them. So birthmarks, many people will say that that is the way that you've passed in a former life. And so I, on one of my legs have. On the front of my leg, I mean, I can show you when we leave, you'll see I have shorts on, but I have two birthmarks that are quite large. And on the opposite, it took. It was probably. I bet I was 26, 27 when I found that on the opposite side of my leg, on the back of my leg, the exact same two, but tiny. Really tiny. Tiny.
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B
Wow.
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A
And so it, it's like a shot or, you know, a gunshot or something through the leg. Like I got pierced through the leg. And so many people believe that when you have the birthmark, it is away from a past life that you've passed.
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B
Wow. I need to find out if I have any.
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A
Do you have birthmarks?
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B
I don't, I don't know. I probably do, though. I feel like most people do. Right.
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A
Well, maybe not everybody. I don't think my eldest does, but my youngest does.
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B
Okay, well, I've done some past life work, so there's hundreds of lives, so the chances are hundreds.
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A
So many of us. It's, it's very rare that I've ever seen anybody not have past lives. Yes. And so I do believe that when we also heal fully in this life, we're also healing not just the present, but the past, the present and the future, which is really interesting.
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B
So future lives, 100. You could see into those too.
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A
Oh, absolutely.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That's crazy. I've never heard of someone doing that.
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A
Well, I mean, it's, it's all energy. And so I do believe that if we heal fully here, it is a choice then to come back, if that is made, you know, So I don't believe that we have to just willy nilly, have to say, yes, we're coming back 42 more times. No, I Think that if we do the work that we're supposed to be doing here and we find that spirituality and we connect fully here in the now, I believe that then we're given the choice to either come back or, say, be a guide on the other side.
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B
What's the most lives you've seen someone have?
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A
I don't know that I have a number. Oh, I don't know that I have a number. Yeah.
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B
So someone could live, hypothetically, thousands.
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A
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think that I have a number.
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B
Yeah. Because you start out as, like, other animals, right?
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A
Yes.
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B
Other beings.
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A
Yes, yes. Other animals. Other beings. I think that you can. You can become the. A human. And then I think that if we, you know, if there are choices made in this lifetime that actually can. They. Some we can be regressed even.
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B
Really.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You go backwards.
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A
I do believe that we go backwards.
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B
So if you put out too much bad karma, send you back to being a tree.
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A
Yeah, you're going back, buddy. Yeah. You're a cricket. Cricket. I'm kidding. Yes. But. Yes.
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B
Damn. That's. That's important for people to know.
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A
Well, I think that. I believe that our purpose. This is the thing, is our purpose rather than, you know, we don't want to be crickets or anything like that. I think our purpose in this life is to treat others the way we want to be treated, to find our heart and our life and actually be doing some inner work. Right. To heal. And when we personally heal the rest of the planet, the world heals. Right. And so if we're doing things karmically, that it's hurting people, then I do think that we pay for that. Yeah, I agree.
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B
Where do humans rank on the totem pole? You think this is like the final stop, or you think there's more past this?
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Well, some people think this is a prison planet. I don't know if you've gotten into that. Yeah. And so how it feels to me, and I always. I don't really always speak indefinites because I. Because I love concrete proof.
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B
Right.
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A
As well. Right.
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B
So your theory, I guess.
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A
Yeah. So how it feels to me is that. That again, if we progress and we find that spiritual connection here in this space that we. It's on purpose that we then elevate to our highest form and that we return to source, to God, to universe on the other side. And so I don't know that I would be ranking humans necessarily as the lowest on the totem pole, even though we know humans, that some of them are possibly Lowest on the totem pole. Right. And so I think that there's. There's a balance. I think there's a balance.
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B
That's an interesting theory. Wow. So we're kind of here just on a.
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A
So I'll say it like this. So, you know, I connect with many people who have so much grief because they've not healed those relationships with those people who have passed in their lives. Okay, if I'm talking from the mediums aspect. Okay. So many people have their father who has passed or a mother who's passed, a family member who's passed. And there were so many unresolved issues. Right. I believe that if we can do that communication that they're. While people are here, rather than waiting till people pass to have that the words on the other side, I think that's when we're in our true purpose.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah. So that in my life and my friendships and my family, I work very hard at the communication part of it so that every person knows how I feel about them. So that if somebody. And that's also, by the way, that's because of my own trauma. So many of my family members and they're all gone. My, my sister is 50 something and she's the matriarch and has been for like 15 years.
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B
Wow.
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A
Which is crazy. I know they've all passed. And so I believe that when people leave my side, I make sure that they know that we're good. You know, there's no unanswered anything. So I live life as if it's my last day. And it's probably also because I see death all day long within my sessions. And so I'm just very aware of connection.
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B
Were your parents healers also?
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A
Were they together?
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B
Were they healers, like energetic healers?
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A
You know what, that's a really great question. My, my father, he was one of the people. No. So no, he was self employed business person. I'm self employed entrepreneur. So I think I get that from him. My mother was very kind, very heart centered, very loving. I get that from her. So I want to say, yes, they were. But it was maybe an undiscovered healer. My father would say, courtney. And these things he said to me. He didn't say I have a twin sister. He didn't really say these things to her. My other sisters, which is interesting to me. But she, he would say to me, courtney, the hair on your arm sticks up for a reason. Listen to it, trust it. So if you ever. Very often it was in terms of protection. So if you're in a dark alley and you don't feel safe, please trust and listen to you first and then ask questions later. That right there, that is one of the things that I know I'm really great at is I trust me. I trust my inner knowing. And I know it's because of that comment.
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B
Wow.
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A
What I will say is that I did later. So I know my father was connected. I know he had spiritual gifts and abilities 100%. Another thing is he didn't always go to church with us, and our family did very often go to church. And I would ask him, why don't you go to church, dad? And he said, courtney, look at that Bible on the table. I'd say, yes. And he'd say, I can be. I can connect to God here. And, you know, and I don't have to go to a building to do that. I've got my own interconnection. And so that really stayed with me. I understood that. But my. It wasn't until as a grown adult, I was already doing this work, had a radio show at that time, this was many years ago. And my grandmother had gone to visit, but going back home and walked in, lost my voice. And she just started to talk. I couldn't speak. And I was stuck there for a while without a car. And so love her, but I would have told her, good old grandma. I know good old Grandma. And I would have. If I didn't lose my voice, I would have tried to control the conversation. I would have talked about whatever. And she was sitting there knitting, and she started to tell me these stories about how she sees, you know, energy, people that she had lost coming through occasionally into her home. And so I was sitting there with my eyebrows like, I'm listening now. She's got my attention. So I'm like, you know, that's what I do. Like, I'm looking at her, like, trying to tell her this, and she kept saying, you know, my whole life I've been able to know, you know, this or that about a person. She would say that she could tell when somebody was going to pass. Now, I don't do that. I don't. That's not my thing. I don't love that necessarily. But she was telling me all of these incredible stories that I had never heard her say before.
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B
Wow.
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A
Good Southern Baptist woman. And she just started to tell me all of these things. And so I know my father was connected, and I know my grandmother was absolutely connected.
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B
Interesting. Yeah. I wonder if it's genetic. We just found out. My fiance, days like, we took a DNA test. She's 40, indigenous American.
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A
Oh, wow.
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B
Yeah. So we think there's some deep spiritual roots there.
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A
There is. It. The connection is absolutely genetic. It is hereditary. You've got that. And so once you. I think that once you understand that there's an empathic feeler, healer person in the family, it does run down those bloodlines. And so, like I said, my oldest has it in certain ways. She would know things that I was young when I had her, I was 20. And so life was not always easy, but she would know things, and I never really always wanted to validate them because sometimes I didn't want her to know them. You know what I mean? And so. But my little one today, she's also a medium like I am, and she has the kindest heart. She's so sweet. And so in different areas, they have gifts, for sure.
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B
Yeah, we're trying to break the cycle because there was a lot of shame about having these abilities, but, yeah, we want to break that cycle, but her dad was. Didn't even tell her, really. You know, so, yeah, it's. We want to bring it to the.
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A
Masses to take ownership of that. Well, that's exciting. That makes me really proud of her. But you also, as a. As the masculine force to her feminine energy, for you to also really embrace that is something quite special, I can tell you. Ethan, my fiance, does that same. And there's something about having that. That partnership that allows me to go into my feminine energy because I know he's got that other part handled and managed so that I can really do my part.
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B
Yeah.
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A
In that.
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B
I used to get made fun of in high school for talking about astral projection. They thought I was crazy.
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A
And look at you.
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B
And now. Yeah, I talk to people that do it on a daily now.
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A
Well, and this is the thing, too, I think, you know, Sean, if we even talk about, yes, spirituality, but entrepreneurship, very often, we're so crazy. I was told, I'm 47. I've been doing this work for a long. For 20 years now. And I was. Everybody thought I was crazy.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
And my email is, you know, Courtney ego says courtneyourtneycaine.com and at that point, my old website was courtneycane.com because I was terrified to put my last name on it because I was. Didn't really want to come out of the closet yet with it. There's shame.
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B
Yeah, there is massive shame.
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A
It's so crazy.
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B
Yeah, it's a shame.
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A
It's a shame that they're Shame. You're so sure. Yeah. And that is something that I have. So many people come to me. You know, another really cool story is I have a client who. She had lost a little girl, and she had been a client of mine for quite a while, and she is Catholic. And so she went to the. She had a session this particular day, and she came in and she sat down for a session, and she said, can I tell you something? I said, yeah, of course. And she said, I feel bad. I hope you're not gonna be mad at me. I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I probably won't, but what's up? And she said, well, I just left confession. And she said, I confess that I come to see you. And she said. I sat down and she had lost her little girl. And so we'd worked through multitude things, multitude of things before that loss, but then now that great loss of hers. And her priest said, well, let me ask you a couple of questions. And he said, do you feel as though she's of the light? And he said, 100%, absolutely. And he said, okay. Do you feel more connected to your daughter when you are with her? Do you feel like she's really helped you? And she said, oh, absolutely. She's taught me that I. That I can still feel her. And he said, I think you need to continue to keep seeing her. I just got chills as I said it. Yeah. He said, I think you need to continue to keep seeing her. And she said it. And I wanted to cry, because very often it's not that way.
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B
No, not at all.
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A
No. And so for him to be so loving and understanding that there's many doors lead to the light, that, to me, was something that was just so important and beautiful.
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B
That's powerful. I wish more religions were like that these days.
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A
I do, too.
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B
I think you can learn something from every religion.
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A
I do, too. I do, too. Again, I think that all doors lead to the light.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. Because they believe in a lot of the same stuff overall.
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A
It's semantics. It's all semantics. Somebody posted. Ethan had posted that he was here through the Conscious Awards and all of the pictures. You know how that goes. And somebody from. He's somebody who's known for a long time and had gone, you know, family, church and all that, had posted something under the comments that said, be careful. And I saw it, and I just. I understand how to take care of it, and it's okay. You just send love, take a breath, let it go. It's not a big deal. And I know that that still kind of still hurts him. And so he but he had a beautiful response. He said, I just know that they don't understand the things that they don't know. And that's it. And so people will get it in time or they won't. And that's okay.
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B
Yeah. You can't focus too hard on trying to change other people.
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A
No.
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B
It's already hard to change yourself.
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A
Like the healing. And to me also what's really important is the measure of which you're able to heal. And you're brave enough to look at the dark stuff within that you said earlier, vulnerable, not easy. But the more you're brave enough to do that, the more highly connected to your own gifts and abilities that you will be. So they are both in tandem. So important. So if you're not willing to do this work, you're not going to really rise in your connection.
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B
Right. Courtney, it's been great. Where can people book a session with you and learn more about you and your show?
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A
They you can book a session at www.courtneykanesides.com and find me on Instagram at Courtney Kane Sides Medium. And it's Courtney without a U. And also I have a podcast on the Forbidden Knowledge Network, Wednesdays tonight live. So excited about that. 7pm Central, 8pm Eastern. And you can also find me on YouTube at Courtney Kaneside. Or actually it's cosmically connected with Courtney Kane Sides.
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B
Got it. We'll link below. Thanks for coming on.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Thanks for watching, guys. We'll link everything below. Check her out. See you next time.