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The Sick Truth About Modern Health... | Mark Sherwood | DSH #2073
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Why are more people sick than ever, even with more health information available than ever? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Dr. Mark Sherwood to discuss modern health, food quality, chronic illness, testosterone, inflammation, aging, stress, AI, nervous system regulation, and the daily habits that shape long-term wellness. Dr. Sherwood argues that many people are not failing because they take no action. They are failing because they are taking the wrong action, often while being pushed toward pills, processed food, bad information, and a system that profits when people stay unwell. The conversation covers food subsidies, the food pyramid, glyphosate, testosterone decline, gut health, parasites, hormone therapy, peptides, pharmaceutical ads, misinformation, first responders, trauma, mental health, and why health should be treated as a full-life system. Later, Dr. Sherwood shares lessons from his time as a police officer and professional baseball pla...
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Cancers will surpass heart disease as the number one killer. I believe in our lifetime, in the next decade, I predict. And it's inexcusable. And to think about a chemical like glyphosate being allowed in our food supply, all that stuff being in our supply, is just completely absurd in my mind. What country creates profit from sickness any better than we do? That is cruel. That is mean. That is hateful. I've watched people die in front of me, and that's not something that you forget. You don't leave those images behind. They're still stuck in your brain. When you see that, it changes the way you think about things. You value life differently. Your perspective changes.
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B
Okay, guys, Dr. Mark Sherwood here today in Las Vegas. Brought some water. I know it's hot out here, man.
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A
It's hot, and I'm glad to be here.
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B
Yeah. Thanks for coming, man. What's been you. I saw you at Asprey's event. It's been a couple months now.
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A
Yeah. You know, we've been trying to just travel around and do our best to, you know, share hope. We call ourselves hope dealers, but, you know, in our world today, there's a lot of. There's a lot of sickness and suffering. And I want to do my part, Shawn, to at least alleviate, you know, what I can.
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B
Yeah, yeah. More people are sick now than aren't, I believe.
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A
Yeah. We've got a world now where we have set the tone, set the bar for what not to do. Look at the history of our land. We have more sick people today right now than we've had in the history of the world. That's crazy, and it shouldn't be like that. And a lot of it's been created by our own behaviors, habits, cultures, etc, and we certainly can do better.
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B
Yeah, it's crazy to me because we have access to the information, but people are still not. Do you think it's a matter of people not taking action?
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A
I think it's. They're taking action. They're just taking the wrong action. You know, we live in a world where we're one of two countries in the entire planet that actually let pharma advertise, you know, us in New Zealand. And so that clouds our air, our information. So we're always getting two sides. You know, you go to the doctor, you're not getting the side of the coin that says you can eat salads, you can exercise, you can de stress, you can listen to good podcasts as opposed to bad ones, listen to good things as opposed to drama. And anxiety. You can get some sleep. They don't talk about that. They talk about where's your pharmacy so we can refill your medication. And that is a side of things that we don't want to take away. But certainly we want to give people a better choice, like the, you know, you go back to the time we had four years ago, you know what I'm talking about, and there was not a choice given. And this land, this country, this wonderful United States of America, has been on choice.
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B
Absolutely. I agree. It's almost like information overload. But people don't have the same critical thinking skills they did in previous generations.
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A
That's right. And they're given one side of a coin. And you, you know, a lie can be told so many times, it becomes the truth. And so it's fascinating, you know, the lies we have in medicine. You know, cholesterol is bad. You know, you're. You're born with medication. Deficienc. I mean, facetiously, but you get where I'm going with that.
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B
100%. Yeah. There's so many things I remember growing up that I was taught that are wrong. Like the food pyramid, they said salt was bad for you. You know, don't eat and drink certain things, and now it turns out they're good for you.
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A
Yeah, you look at the food pyramid. I mean, when that came about, that was in my, you know, high school days. I'm dating myself here a little bit, but, you know, my high school days, we had the food pyramid at that time. At the same time, you also saw the. The Vaccine Liability act being transferred to the government at that point in time. And so that kind of collided together. So the food pyra was something that blew my mind. It said that fat was bad, sugar is okay, and. And we're going to eat a lot of grains and breads. But at that time, you had one state out of our 50 that had an obesity rate, albeit tracked by BMI. Sean. One state was over 10%. It took 11 years for every state to go above 10% in obesity rates. Now you've got many states that are above 50%, over 60%. And it's predicted by 2050 that 100% of our society will be overweight or obese. And that is completely unacceptable. And now finally, we're getting some flip around on that. I know the current HHS director Secretary has done some good jobs at flipping that around, but my concern is that the next administration, whatever that would do, would flip it around the other way again, because we've Lost generations in that. Yeah, I think we've lost probably two generations in that for sure.
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B
Now I'm curious what state that was. The first one.
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A
The first state. I don't recall. But I know Colorado is still the most healthy state as of.
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B
That makes sense, the nature there, right? People are hiking, people are outdoors, outside, moving around. Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Did you see the glyphosate thing that passed yesterday?
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A
I did.
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B
That's crazy.
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A
Very disappointed in that. Yeah, that's, you know, because glyphosate is a known estrogenic and carcinogenic compound, meaning it will drive estrogen. And we're talking a lot of, you know, men today and women, but men primarily. They're not getting the testosterone production that they. They should have.
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B
Myself included. Yeah, I was in the 500s.
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A
I see it's gone down. You should be in the thousands right now.
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B
I should be at least 800.
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A
Absolutely. And this. This environmental push on that has stressed our hormone production so much, you know, that we've got this idea of males not being males anymore. Now it's. People would say it's a spiritual issue, it's a cultural issue, but no, it's also a physical issue as well. And then you look at cancers. Cancers will surpass heart disease as the number one killer, I believe, in our lifetime, in the next decade, I predict. And it's inexcusable. And to think about a chemical like glyphosate being allowed in our food supply and other things as well. We can talk about forever. Chemicals that are there as well. But all that stuff being in our supply is just completely absurd in my mind. And I've said this before, and I'll say it again, and my wife and I have been on this bandwagon for a long time. What country creates profit from sickness any better than we do? That is cruel. That is mean. That is hateful.
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B
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A
And I've told people before that if the government subsidizes it regarding food, don't eat it and you'll probably be healthy. That's a simple way to say it, but just don't do that.
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B
Yeah. Good rule of thumb though, right?
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A
Yeah, absolutely. It's common sense. But then again, you look at subsidies, right? What foods are subsidized? It's the foods that make them cheap, that puts them on the shelf so that people can have access to them. And all of our food subsidy programs for people that don't have a lot of money, they're allowed to get those things, but God forbid they're going to get an organic salad.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
And so it's not okay is what I'm getting at. And we've got to do a better job of educating. And that's why I'm really glad to be with you today on the Digital Social Hour podcast, because it's really important to tell people this stuff. So at least they can have the choice.
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B
Absolutely. Yeah. Glyphosate's everywhere, man. They did a fast food study. I think Panera was the worst. It was in almost every fast food.
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A
It is.
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B
It's in a lot of baby products.
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A
Yeah. And you're looking at chemicals today. They've tested the umbilical cord of babies today, you know, and they found these chemicals in there and glyph, glyphosate included and as well as forever, chemicals, plastics. And what do we do in our next generation? You know, wonder why we got so sick. We just didn't pay attention to what came into this thing we call the temple.
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B
Major setbacks.
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A
Yes.
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B
IQ is dropping. Gen Z scored lower on tests than the previous generation. That's never happened before. Usually we score upwards.
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A
No, we're regressing in our iq. We're regressing our intellect. And before going live, we're talking about regression and critical thinking. You know, we're not debating today and thinking through situations. We're more reactive and we need to really stop a moment and stop being so reactive and start thinking for ourselves. What can I learn from things? I don't know? What can I learn from someone else? You know, I wake up every day and so is my wife, you know, and realizing I know a lot of stuff, but if I really watch myself, I have to realize I don't know anything. At the same time, I need to keep learning every day, which keeps me young, keeps me curious. Made a statement before that curiosity can Heal the human. And I really believe that has multifacetets out there for people to really sort of grab onto and learn from.
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B
I live that way, too. A lot of people after college, they stop learning as much.
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A
They do and, you know, listen to. Even in your story, you know, you were telling me, you know, a few weeks back, it's. It's fascinating. You know, you learn something, you learn something new. And now here you are doing a podcast. You never thought you'd be doing that.
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B
No.
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What's. What's next? Who knows? But it's a. It's a wild, wild opportunity world we live in.
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B
Yeah. You got to adapt, and that's what you've done. Well, we haven't even talked about your business, but you're doing a lot of peptides, right?
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A
We are. You know, change is inevitable, Adaptations of choice, you know, so. But we do a lot of peptides. Peptides are signaling molecules. A lot of people don't know what they are. They're amino acids that are less than 50amino acids in length. And it's really important for people to understand that. Just signaling molecules made of amino acids. So they're not unnatural to the body. One of the earliest peptides discovered was, guess what? Insulin.
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B
That's a peptide.
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A
It's a peptide. But people don't think about like that. But you look and you get to a hundred amino acids and link, that becomes a hormone. Okay, so you could reverse the logic on that and say that every hormone is made from peptide. Peptides, and every hormone and peptide is made from amino acids. Amino acids come from what, food? Right. So we're not talking about unnatural things. We're talking about things that are very natural, and people want those things to be, quote, unquote, approved by the fda. But that's a wrong model. You know, the FDA is bent on a sick model. So if you have a sickness or a sick condition, it will try to find something, medication, peptide, whatever, to alleviate that symptoms of that sickness or whatever. But how do you test health? How do you say this person, Sean Kelly, is healthy? How do I test giving him peptide A or B or C to see if he's more healthy? Just not a way that I know of.
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B
Yeah, I don't really know. I mean, the biological age maybe, but I don't know if that's accurate. All right, guys, Today we have Dr. Mark Sherwood on the podcast. He's a leading longevity doctor who specializes in helping people optimize their bodies and maximize their performance. Performance. We're diving deep into the seven biomarkers. Every high performer should track after 40. You guys do not want to miss this one.
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A
Well, it's. We do several biological age tests with us, and it's not unusual for us to see a 20 to 30 year, 40 year gap. I can. This is not about me, obviously, but this is what we do, and this is normal for us. My wife and I test the biological immune age of people using a test called glycan age. And we've been able to see people in their 60s be down in the 20s.
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B
Holy crap.
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A
Well, that's where my wife and I are right now. So that tells you your immune system is acting as if it's 20 years of age. Which means why? It means we have more resilience. Now. We also have testing that can look at different methylation sites on different organs. So we can down test the organ specific biological age compared to your chronological age. And it's not unusual to see us 10 years, 11 years your junior in biological aging of 21 organ systems and, and processes. So there's. There's a way. You can't stop aging, but you can sure slow it down to what I believe is a normal pace of aging, doctor.
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B
Right. You've probably reviewed hundreds, maybe thousands of these tests. Which organs are aging faster than others?
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Yeah, I think probably. I'm gonna give you a global answer. I think it's the inflammation that's driving the aging process. Inflammation is maybe termed inflammaging, let's say. And so that inflammating process is slowing down our ability to heal, recover, signal, repair, do all those things regenerate that we need to do. I think most people's musculoskeletal GI tract are the two I see the most because we have leaky gut. You know, we have loss of muscle, we have gain of visceral fat. The brain is one that I see. Cognition is going down today, and that's not okay because we have to have our brain. We have most mitochondria in our brain. So I want to make sure that my brain is going well.
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B
That's how we make a living.
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Exactly. If you can't think and you can't make critical decisions, what are we doing exactly?
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Yeah, I've gotten two brain scans. I know it's important.
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It's. It's crazy. And we have a lot of it. It's not just TBIs from Hit on the head. I remember back in the power team days, I used to run my head through bricks.
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B
I'm sure you had some.
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Yeah, I Did, but. But I realized I need to take care of that.
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Yeah.
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So I want to make sure I have my fatty acids. I want to make sure I do my inhalation hydrogen. I do those every single day. I do some peptides for the brain as well, including cerebralysin. And I want to make sure my brain is working well every day because what else do I have? I think we'd all agree that are listening today with this question or this statement slash into a question. Would you rather lose your life or lose your mind?
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B
Wow, that's deep.
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Big question.
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Yeah.
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And I think we'd all agree that we'd rather at least have our mind, you know, because if you have lost your life, what does it matter anyway?
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Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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But if you're living and can't think and you're just becoming a human vegetable for somebody else to take care of
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your liability at that point.
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I don't want to do that for my wife. I don't. And I am passionate about that. I literally hate Alzheimer's, dementia. I hate it. I want to see it go away. And I don't think it needs to happen, frankly.
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B
That's why I got the brain scans, because I have the gene.
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Yeah, the Apoe 4.
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Yeah.
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And again, but you should know this. It doesn't mean, based upon genes, that you will get it.
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Exactly. I've talked to so many doctors about it. They're saying genetics is anywhere from 10 to 20%.
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That's right.
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So it's mainly environment and what you
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do, environment, epigenetic causes. And you know what's the default today in. In medicine, mainstream, it's, well, you got a bad gene. Sorry, dude.
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B
That's how I thought growing up.
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But that's not true.
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Not at all.
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The genes have changed 2% in 10,000 years.
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B
Holy crap.
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Two?
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B
That's insane.
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Well, that means that you have the same genes as Noah had when he hopped off the boat.
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That's nuts.
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So if that's true, then why didn't we have Alzheimer's dementia back then? Why did Moses walk up on a mountain on his last day of life and change addresses when his eyesight was still good and he was still strong? And I didn't quote that. That's in the Bible.
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Yeah.
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And why did Joshua, a guy who took over leadership, live to 110? Yeah, see, that's the same genes we have.
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B
Was there any mental health issues in the Bible?
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You know, I think mental health is something that we've kind of overdone and Overcooked today as far as syndromes go, you know.
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Agreed.
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We've made things up that become excuses on why we can't. For example, I think there's truly mental health issues. I think people are born with some wires crossed, let's just say. But for the most part, I think most mental health is probably dealt with childhood trauma events, inability to deal with them, pharmaceutical drugs that have tried to balance out neurotransmitters and failed. You know, it's like the proverbial, I want to try this on you. But really you have also pharmacokinetics or pharmacogenics. You can actually look at big pharma drugs and see what metabolizes. Right. You should be doing that on everybody when they, when they are born. So you're not quote unquote trying things, but you know how they metabolize.
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Yep.
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And that would help.
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B
I just found out I'm allergic to penicillin.
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Yeah. And so you, you need to know that.
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Yeah. No one told me.
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Wouldn't it be nice to know when, before you were even raised?
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Yeah. I had to go. Well, I, they think I got it because I took so many antibiotics growing up. And I'm sure that's common.
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It's common. I mean, antibiotics are used like candy.
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Oh. I was getting handed them at least once a year whenever I went in for any infection or something.
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You think about the antibiotic resistance stuff we had today.
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That's scary.
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It's a super bacteria. It's bad because you have a world that we live symbiotically with bacteria, viruses, even parasites.
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Yeah.
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I don't, I'm not sure what all parasites and bacteria do. I mean, yeah, we study this stuff, but there's some good to it. Yeah, whatever that means, you know, so it's really important that we kind of catch that.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. The parasite stuff is a rabbit hole.
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It is. But a lot of people look at parasites as the end all, be all that causes everything. But that can't be true. Because if that were true and you say I'm going to eliminate parasites. Well, didn't God make parasites too?
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So they're there for a reason.
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Yeah. I don't know what that reason is.
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Yeah, there are good ones. That's why chemo doesn't really. I'm not the biggest fan of chemo.
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No.
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Because it kills everything.
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It does. And so it kills. Even looking at antibiotic, it kills all bacteria.
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Yeah. Antibiotics I'm not a fan of.
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It's the same type of concept. If we Start transitioning that thinking to parasites. Yeah, Kill all parasites. We don't know the long term consequences. We don't know about viruses. We do a ton of stool testing, Sean, and I can tell you there are levels of things that are probably acceptable.
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B
Really?
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I've had people that tested positive for certain parasites and they didn't have any symptoms and I made the mistake of trying to treat them.
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B
Interesting.
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And they got worse.
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B
Oh, wow. Well, thanks for admitting that, because most people wouldn't.
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I didn't, you know, I didn't know. And I had to go, wait a minute. Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong. Maybe I need to just chill out and realize I'm dealing with a human and n of 1 and maybe that's why we should be doing it.
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Interesting.
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And. And so I took all treatment away and the person got better. And I said, well, wow, you know, I learned something. Because what might be good for you and what might be good for me, what might be good for my wife Michelle, might not be good for somebody else. And I think that's why we've had really, really good success, you know, in the clinic and, you know, writing books and things like that.
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B
Yeah, yeah. There's a belief that the body can heal itself.
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I think the body can heal itself. You know, the body, the human body is so intricate in its details and the way it's made. There's no way anybody can understand that. The longer we dig and the more we dig, the longer we get down into levels of stuff that's like, what the heck is that?
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B
Yeah, it's very do. Very complicated.
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It is. And so I believe you give the body what it needs, it will do what it does, and God does what he does. I'm a person of faith. Now. I don't claim to be this highly over spiritual person because I think religion will kill you.
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B
Agreed. If you go too far down.
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A
Yeah. But you know, I believe that God created everything and I think there's reason for it. And I think I don't understand it. And I think that's why I'm not God.
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B
Yeah.
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And I'm okay with that.
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B
I'm good with that too.
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Yeah. I mean, like, people get better sometimes when they come see us. Right. We are used to seeing people healed. We're used to seeing people have reversal disease processes and most importantly, prevention of disease process which can't be tested.
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B
Yeah, that's.
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And sometimes I know why and sometimes I don't. And I'm okay with that as long as I have a great life. Man, that's what we want. Because that to me is, is the epitome of longevity. It's increasing this idea of health span.
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B
Yeah, a lot of you, a lot of people view treating health just physically. I think there's a mental side to it totally.
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What? You know, I look at my age right now, I'm 61, and I'm like, what the heck happened? But my mindset is I don't care about that. I don't think about that. I think about the quality of life I can have per day. How can I be a better husband? How can I be a better man? How can I be a better teacher, a mentor to younger men or young women that don't know what I know? How can I leave a mark on society? That's my focus every day. I'm not concerned about when I die. I'm concerned about if I don't live. And I think we get 1,440 minutes a day. People can check your math on that. But I don't want to waste those things. I don't want to waste my time, nor do you. That's why right now, at this moment in time, Sean Kelly is the most important person in my life right now. Being present, it's really about that. That's life. And so I think it's a state of mind, it's a state of belief system. And we got to shift that. In the medical care system, we think about sickness, dying. The greatest distractors in life are death, disease, sickness, and lack. Think about that. And if you're focused on and thinking about those things all the time, what's left?
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It's not a good way. I used to live like that. Honestly. I used to fear death, used to fear getting sick, cancer, Alzheimer's, all that. But you got to be present.
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We're gonna die one day. Yep, I, I believe that. I think we're in the precipice of understanding how to live longer, I'll give you that. But we really can work on living better.
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B
Lifespan versus health span.
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A
For me, I want my six band to be short.
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B
Yeah. You know, I mean, you're 61, you're outlifting 30 year olds. Look, a lot of people think they're healthy until they actually look at the data. If you want to know how healthy you really are, stop guessing. Go to functionaldoctor.com digitalsocialhour right now and take this short longevity assessment seriously. Find out where you stand. Go to functionaldoctor.com digitalsocialhour and take it today.
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A
Yeah, I Don't. You know, it's weird, you know, when you kind of shot me that question, I was like, wow, man, that made me think a little bit. But honestly, I think that if I can be an example of hope for somebody, that's the best thing.
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B
Right.
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To give somebody some kind of inspiration. I don't have it all figured out and I won't. But, man, I will do my best every day, you know. Right. In that. In that endeavor.
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B
Well, I like it because a lot of people use age as an excuse, so they'll say their certain age. You know, I'm not gonna do this or that, and I'm not a fan of that.
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A
No. Age can be an excuse or it can be a badge of honor, and it can be a place of wisdom. You know, wisdom doesn't mean you know everything. It means you've been through a lot of things you messed up on and you've hopefully learned those lessons so you can not repeat them as much.
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Yeah.
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And wisdom is understanding the application of knowledge a little bit better. And I think wisdom is more valuable than knowledge because we live in a world of fast paced knowledge going everywhere. So I want to make sure that I interpret that correctly and communicate that correctly, especially in today's world. We live in the information age and with AI and all this stuff moving so fast. It's moving so fast, you can't keep track of it today.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
It's. It's mind blowing.
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B
It's nuts.
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A
Yeah.
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Yeah. You messing around with it at all. AI.
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A
Yeah. In our clinic, we actually have a program that we use that can record the note.
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B
Wow.
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A
Record what we speak. And it puts it perfectly into a clinical note.
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B
That's cool.
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A
It saved us so much time.
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B
Yeah. I got one of those for zoom calls.
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A
It's amazing.
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B
Fireflies.
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A
Yeah, Firefly or Gemini.
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B
Insane. It gives you action items after the call.
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A
It's absolutely incredible. So I think AI is. Is amazing. But I also think it's like any other thing. You know, back when I was, you know, a younger man.
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B
Right.
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A
I remember the Internet and I remember people saying that will never work. I remember people saying emails will never work. I remember people saying that you're never going to have cell phones. And I remember the birth of the computer. That's how long I've been around. And those things can be used in an evil manner and they can be used in an outstanding manner to bless people. And that's where we have to know the difference. So as technology goes forward, I think we have an opportunity to look at AI as something that can go through pieces of data. I can do a data search in seconds, things that would take me a week to do. And that is amazing. It's great. I can get information when I'm talking to somebody about studies, medical studies. I can be talking to you on a zoom call or in person. I can type in something while I'm listening and I can get ultimate studies on that immediately. Now you have to verify stuff you do.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because what goes into the AI mechanism that it scrapes and gets the data is put in there by human hands, the inputs, everything. That's right, yeah.
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B
So that's why you. I use different ones, yes. So I'll ask the same question to four different ones. Like when I got my blood work, I put it into four different AIs and then I looked at all of the answers and then formed my own opinion.
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A
You have to. And that's the way we should do it. You know, it's almost like having a high level person to get an opinion from. It doesn't mean you have to take the opinion. It means that it's wisdom to get the opinion of many. You know, look at it like this. Maybe wise counsel is what you do before making big decisions. Can AI be used as part of that wise counsel? I think so, because it's information that somebody wrote down, somebody studied somewhere, sometime.
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B
Yeah, right. So you're obviously a doctor, but what's your advice for my generation if they're looking to become a doctor because the medical expenses are so high? You got AI, they're saying it's going to be performing surgeries in five years. Do you think it's a viable path
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A
these days with becoming a doctor? I think that there's got to be some caveats around that. I'll give you a quick story. My wife, you know, she goes into medicine, you know, she's homeless and then ends up at the top of medical class. Who does that? Wow. And that's a story in itself. A little plug for her movie out there, the Prayer List, which is. Is out now, but when she went into medicine, she went into it to heal people, get them better. But she got into medicine and she was kicked out because too many people got too well and her paramedics didn't.
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B
Of med school or.
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A
No, no, it's actually out in clinical practice after graduating. Yeah.
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B
So they kicked her out of the practice.
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A
Out of the practice? Yeah.
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B
Holy crap. And she owned it or she worked for it?
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A
No, she worked there.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah, but. But when that shut down the Depression came in. But what came out of that? The functional Medical Institute where we now work together.
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B
Nice.
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A
So it's when a door closes, a bigger one will open. So when you're getting into that field, you want to get into a field where you can actually bring about truth and you're not one sided coin with everybody. So I like people going into maybe naturopathy, maybe even chiropractic, do that angle because you have the opportunity to have both sides of the coin. Medicine is not bad. There's some brilliant people there.
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B
Functional medicine I like.
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A
Actually functional medicine is great. You got to also take functional medicine, longevity, conventional medicine, biohacking, common sense, wisdom, and put it all together and create your own.
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B
Yeah, I asked that because now you got guys like Gary Breca. He's not a doctor, but he's still helping people, you know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So that's like another route that didn't exist before.
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A
Yeah. You don't have to become a quote unquote doctor to bring hope and healing in people's lives. I think we need to understand that. You know, I think we go back and look at the savior of the world, Jesus. You know, he's looked as a great physician, but did he go to medical school?
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B
No, no.
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A
But he had a gifting from God. And like my wife and I are gifted to do what we do. And that's okay to say that. That's why I said earlier, I don't sometimes know why people get better, but they do. And that's the best. And so I appreciate guys like Gary Breckin, Dave Asprey, Brian Johnson who, who took the risk to get out there and start trying to do things. And I'm sure they've suffered a lot of criticism, but. But it's okay.
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B
It's part of the game.
- [27:10]
A
It is, it's unavoidable.
- [27:12]
B
I'm sure even you get hate.
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A
Oh man. Going from a police officer.
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B
Yeah, Especially that.
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A
To what I do now, you know, and to get out of here. And I'm just me, but I'm outspoken about this because I've learned. I watch people die in front of me. And that's not something that you forget. You don't leave those images behind, they're still stuck in your brain. And when you, when you see that, it changes the way you think about things. You value life differently, Your perspective changes. You know, if that perspective changes, you better share that perspective with somebody. Life is valuable, man. And so people think, well, I'm strict or whatever and criticize me for eating right and Exercising every day and going to bed on time and not hanging out, you know, And I don't have time for nonsense. I don't want to, but it's put my wife and I in a place of being like unicorns, where we stick out there. But the last I checked, leadership is like that.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
You have to step out there on your own sometimes to lead the way, even though it's not the popular thing. Somebody has to blaze a trail.
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B
Yeah. Were you in a leadership position when you were a police officer?
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A
Yes, yes. Before I left, I was actually at the police academy. I was in charge of recruiting, training, wellness, and things like that. So that was my last seven years.
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B
Yeah. I had a police officer on last week. He was saying high divorce rates, a lot of mental health issues in the police officer field.
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A
Yeah.
- [28:37]
B
A lot of trauma. Obviously, they're seeing deaths. I think he said he saw 20 deaths.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Crazy.
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A
The reason I sat here today most likely is because of one statistic that I read. Probably in the year 2000. I was tasked with developing a wellness program that didn't exist. Right. And so I did my research. Smart guy. Want to do it right. Want to impress my boss, the whole bit, you know? And one statistic, Sean, was that it was an FBI study from probably the 1950s, 60s, something like that. But it said the Average police officer, 20 years of service, lives to 66 years of age. Wow. That's it.
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B
That's young.
- [29:12]
A
That's young.
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B
That's below the average.
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A
But I thought, you know what? Maybe it's changed. So this is 2000. So I thought, I'm going to check the stats of my own state, my own county, which was Oklahoma and Tulsa, respectively. You know what I found? Oklahoma was 66, Tulsa was 65.
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B
Wow.
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A
And my heart sank because I watched these men and women that I worked with retire and die on three or four medications. No hope, no health, lose their identity and die. They had nothing else. So that got me started on the route to figure out what that was, what caused that. The mission that I had at that point was to protect and serve. That didn't change. It just expanded. So that's what led me to where I am today. And interestingly enough, ironically enough, somebody asked me this question on a show recently, and I shared that stat, and they said, well, is it the same thing now? And I checked recently, and guess What? It's still 66 years of age. So something's got to be done. I've had a burden for first responders and military people for a long Long time. And they don't have the support that they need. They do not have what they need. And it's not generated from the top. We have a lack of leadership right now, and people won't do the right things because it's hard.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, to eat right. You know, go to dinner and select your own meal and not eat the pile of bread in front of you as an example. I mean, you can. You can do that. You might get ridicule, but is it worth it? Yeah. Somebody's gotta lead the way.
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B
I mean, first for a professional, like a police officer, I want them to be healthy. I want them to be in shape. I mean, there's that stigma of the fat officer eating the donut. You know what I mean?
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A
I never ate a donut. I didn't. On duty, not one time. But I did bring my meals to work, and I would eat in my car. And then finally, I got enough confidence one day to ask the restaurant where everybody else is going, can I come in and eat my meal? And they let me. And then finally, someone got to know me, and they actually would heat it up for me in the little microwave in the back, which was pretty nice. But even to this day, when I see people that I used to work with, and some of them are still alive, believe it or not, some of them aren't, which is heartbreaking, but they'll make a comment about me bringing my lunch to work. That's what they remember. And great. But then I receive a lot of, you know, criticism for that ridicule I did. But it was worth it because it was the right thing to do.
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B
Yeah. Shout out to Dana White. Actually, police officers eat for free at the UFCPI here in Vegas.
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A
See, I think that's brilliant. I've never met Dana White, but. But that is actually outstanding. And I hope he continues that. I. I hope that people listening today. Never let a police officer buy a meal that's at the restaurant.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. I ever saw one in a restaurant, I would definitely offer.
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A
You got to.
- [31:59]
B
Same with firefighters.
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A
Yep.
- [32:00]
B
These guys are putting even military, just. Yeah, military, for sure. I've done that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's important. Yeah. These guys have the highest, like, mental health issues.
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A
You know, when you are seeing trauma every day, when you're seeing someone at their worst every day. Police officers don't get called. And a 911 call to go have coffee with somebody.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's the worst situation. You're going to somebody's worst day of their life, and you have to become the problem Solver. You know, it's kind of what my wife and I feel like many times in our current medical system, you know, where people have exhausted all the resources and then they're calling 911 Functional Medical Institute, Tulsa, Oklahoma, can I help you? You know, and they're just at that place in life. They have little resources left. They reach the end of their rope. They're not finding what they're looking for, so they have to call and get resolved.
- [32:46]
B
Yeah. It's like you're like the last hope for them. Right. Sometimes some of them are on death's door.
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A
They are, sometimes.
- [32:51]
B
Yeah. So it must be amazing seeing some of them heal from that moment.
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A
Yeah, it's overwhelming. It's humbling. You see someone that had no hope, have hope. I mean, it's the best thing you can ever imagine. And I have to watch this myself. Being a human being, I don't want to take credit, because if I do, that can get into my psyche and I can become person who is less humble, less full of humility, and begin to think I understand it. I mean, I know a lot of things, but I have to give credit where credit is due. I give God credit for teaching me what he teaches me and allowing me to retain what I retain and be able to teach others in a way they understand. So that's all good. So I'm readily seeing hearing thank yous, but at the same time, we always got to keep that in proper context.
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B
That's great, man. Yeah, I'm always aware of my ego, too. It's an ongoing thing.
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A
Yes. Ego can. Can get you in trouble.
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B
I'm very careful who's around me. Because you get a couple yes men around you, you start thinking you're the man. I've seen my friends go down that route. It doesn't end well.
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A
My wife and I, we have people around us, but they know I'm like this. When they come up with an idea, I expect them to ask me a question. Can you tell me why that won't work? And that's the best question you can ask because it allows you to poke holes in what you think you know, and that's a scientific mind. Science is what you have left over after you poked holes in what you think you know, I like that it's an evolving process, and it goes with podcasts, it goes with media. Everything you do. And if you think about things like that, it always keeps you advancing and learning. You're not thinking about taking up somebody's word for it. The worst thing you can have around your is yes, men, the worst women. It's terrible. It will destroy your business, destroy your life. My wife and I don't hang out with people that just tell us what want to hear. I don't have time for that.
- [34:44]
B
Still to this day, I asked my producers, what can I do better?
- [34:47]
A
Yeah.
- [34:47]
B
I asked my audience, how can I improve even though I'm 2000 episodes in? It doesn't matter.
- [34:52]
A
No, you've got to do better.
- [34:54]
B
You have to. Because there's so many pods now. It's constantly evolving. If you're not getting better, you're falling behind.
- [34:58]
A
That's it. And then when you fall behind, if you get desperate, you start doing desperate things, and desperation will never pay off. It'll always cause you to make decisions that are worse than they. They should have been.
- [35:10]
B
Yeah, there's stats on that. You make worse decisions when you're, like, financially struggling. Stuff like that.
- [35:15]
A
They're very reactive. They're not proactive. It's like even medicine. Back to what we do again, you know, it's reactive. We need to stop being reactive and become proactive or prehabilitative versus rehabilitative. And if you can think like that, you know, I'm thinking in my life every day, how can I do better so I can have a good day again to be a good husband, a man, etc. You know, good. A good guest on the podcast. Right. So that's important. And so it's proactive thinking. Get ahead of the game. Don't wait for something to happen before you do something about it.
- [35:47]
B
For sure. Were you pretty proactive as a police officer? Probably.
- [35:52]
A
You go back to my life as a. You know, I was adopted and one little kid that didn't have any brothers and sisters. Always.
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B
Only child. Yeah, Same here.
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A
Yep. Not the best athlete, but I remember a story. One of my teachers, one day, she stood in front of class and she said, what do y' all want to do when you grow up and you got something you want to do? You dream, you know? And my hand went up. I didn't think she'd call on me, but she did. And I was a shy guy at that point in my life. And when she called on me, I said the first thing that come to my mind was, I want to become a professional baseball player. And the whole class busted out at me. I live in a small town, so everybody knew my business, you know, the whole class busted out, and I. I was broken, man.
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B
What grade was that?
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A
That was about probably second grade.
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B
Yeah. Elementary school.
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A
Yeah, it was a formidable time, you know. And I walked out of that class, the teacher stopped me, and she said, mark, you can do anything you want to do in life. I want you to write down on a piece of paper that what you want to become and keep it in your pocket until it returns, till it happens. And you know what I did that. I put on a piece of paper, I will become a professional baseball player. And I carry that thing around all those years.
- [37:03]
B
That's amazing.
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A
I thought I lost it. I did. And one day I was sitting in the dugout, true story. In the country of Australia, when I was playing professional baseball, and I thought of that note. I thought, where was that thing? Where is that thing? And I looked in my wallet, couldn't find it. Then I took my driver's license and I flipped it around, and I saw this brown, yellow piece of paper, and there it was. I peeled it off in the middle of that game, I will become a professional baseball player, period. And I started to cry. I think people thought I was having a bad day or something, but it was a good day. And I thought, you know, dreams do come true, but you got to be focused in that. So I never really was one to take a negative after that point in life and let it become a negative. It became fuel and a fire to do something else.
- [37:53]
B
What a story. Did you reach out to that teacher ever?
- [37:55]
A
Yeah, I did. She was already gone, but I remember her so well.
- [38:00]
B
Certain teachers leave a huge impact on you.
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A
Teachers, man, they're so important in our lives. And that's why in our lives, my wife and I, we have become teachers. We teach complex subjects in a way that people understand. You know, I teach like, you know, complex medical stuff, biochemical stuff, biohacking stuff, longevity stuff, in ways people understand. And I think people appreciate that because those stories stick with them.
- [38:25]
B
Absolutely.
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A
You know, they like that. And when you get a story that sticks to somebody's heads, that becomes something that gets stuck in their heart, and then they know why they're doing what they're doing.
- [38:33]
B
Yeah, yeah. I've noticed the best teachers, they teach super complex stuff, but they simply simplify it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I can understand.
- [38:39]
A
Go back to, you know, Jesus, you know, who. Who taught in parables. And I asked God a long time ago, can you teach me to teach this stuff in parables?
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B
Crazy.
- [38:50]
A
And you know what? I do teach like that.
- [38:53]
B
Really?
- [38:53]
A
It's good. I tell stories. Like, for example, you know, when I'm talking about, you know, cholesterol and small particles and heart Disease. I talk about the highways of the arterial system being like roads, and little bitty cars are like small particles that get off and stuck in the exit ramp and get. Get built up. And that's plaque. And people understand that.
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B
Analogies.
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A
You don't want to have small cars. You want to have big buses. And I think most people get that idea and they remember it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And if you know why it is at that point, you know what to do to avoid those things.
- [39:22]
B
Yeah. Analogies are great because we were taught in school to memorize.
- [39:25]
A
That's right.
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B
I don't think that's effective.
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A
It's not, you know, what is it to memorize stuff? I mean, you can memorize it, throw it on a piece of paper, forget it, and move on. But analogies get stuck in your inner brain, and they become part of your story, part of your life. Your life is a story. Remember sticking your finger in a light socket if that thing shocks you? That story becomes a memory that you can draw reference from 100%. It's not just a memory. It's part of a story.
- [39:55]
B
I learned from Jim Quick. Have you met Jim yet? Yes. Yeah, he's great. I don't know if he calls it memory, but he can remember a hundred names at once.
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A
Well, you know, you read his books and his stuff. He talks about, you know, drawing a story or illustrations or images with. With a person's name. What does that mean? You know, how do I remember Sean Kelly?
- [40:15]
B
Exactly.
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A
Sean Kelly's got a lot of hair, more than I do. His name is shorted, is the same length as mine, you know, so it's really important that we remember that. And when you say people's names a couple times during a conversation, that helps cue that into that name being part of that story.
- [40:31]
B
Yup. Yeah. And if you remember people's names, they love it.
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A
They do. You know, I know when. When I go to a different place, if somebody comes up, remembers my name, that's great. But you know what's really even better? If I remember theirs for sure. That makes the day, man. They're like, oh, my gosh, he remembered me. I'm like, yeah, I did. Of course I did.
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B
Yeah. It's important, man. But Jim's got a crazy story.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That brain injury. He was labeled the broken child. Yeah. And now he's like, the number one guy for brain optimization.
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A
He's a humble guy, too.
- [41:02]
B
Very humble.
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A
And I like him a lot.
- [41:04]
B
Yeah. He lost a $50 million deal because he forgot the guy's name.
- [41:09]
A
That's a big loss.
- [41:10]
B
Yeah.
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A
So that'll teach you a lesson. Yeah.
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B
Since then, he hasn't forgotten a name.
- [41:14]
A
No. And you know, what's in a name? It's like. Yeah, that's what you go by. But it becomes an identity of sorts. You know, how do people know Dr. Mark? How do they know Shawn? How do they know Dr. Michelle? And that name associates again with something. And so I definitely want my name to associate with something good, to help people.
- [41:36]
B
Absolutely. What's the next thing you're working on now?
- [41:39]
A
Well, our book is coming out soon, Authentic Longevity. I'm excited about that.
- [41:43]
B
We got it right here.
- [41:44]
A
I do.
- [41:44]
B
We'll include a link. Show this on my shot. Yeah. This will be on audible in September,
- [41:49]
A
you said no, in actually late July.
- [41:51]
B
Oh, late July.
- [41:52]
A
So we're excited about that. This is our seventh or eighth book, I guess. We put every single thing we know about Authentic Longevity based upon our stories, our lives, what we've learned. And we talk about different areas, you know, nutrition, sleep, stress management, movement, the things we have control over. But we also talk about genetics, hormones, peptides, supplementation, emotional health, physical health, spiritual health, water. You know, all these things are in there. That's like a handbook of life. And so that I call it our legacy book. We'll probably have a volume two or edition two at some point. But I'm excited about that.
- [42:27]
B
I'll definitely give that a read. It reminds me of Tony Robbins book Life Force.
- [42:31]
A
Yes, exactly.
- [42:31]
B
I read that and started doing. I love when books are actionable. So it sounds like this is one of those. Yeah.
- [42:36]
A
You can actually take those. Those chapters apart and all of them can be, you know, utilized by the cell. Because remember that every part of life is interconnected. We're not independent, we're interdependent.
- [42:46]
B
Yeah.
- [42:47]
A
Even as humans go, you know, we need each other, but our body systems need each other. And we've done our best to have the interconnectedness put on that book. You know, where people get it.
- [42:55]
B
That's everything, man.
- [42:56]
A
It is.
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B
Because I. I was. For me, I was optimizing my physical health so much, but I was neglecting certain systems.
- [43:03]
A
Yeah. When you look at physical health, emotional health, spiritual health, intellectual health, financial health, those five things right there, when they're incomplete, it gives you an open hand.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But when you put them together, Close fist. You got a fist.
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B
I love that.
- [43:16]
A
It's got power, man. This has no power. You can slap somebody all day long, but this has power. And that's why we have to think about Every system together.
- [43:26]
B
That's great. Yeah. I was so focused on financial, physical. I neglected my mental health and my. What's that system called? I forgot I had to do a reset nervous system.
- [43:36]
A
Yeah. Your nervous system.
- [43:37]
B
Yeah.
- [43:37]
A
It can get overwhelmed with the world we live in. You know, you have to be on so much. Yeah. You're doing podcast or podcast. 2000 episodes.
- [43:45]
B
2003 years.
- [43:46]
A
You have to be on during every one of them. You can't just be over there napping in a fetal position.
- [43:50]
B
You can't have asses. You got to be present.
- [43:53]
A
But at that point in time, it takes its toll on you. At the end of the podcast, I'm sure just zonked out. You don't want to talk to one other person.
- [44:00]
B
Yeah.
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A
And that's okay. Go rest, get quiet. Go get with your wife and get quiet. Just sit there. That's the best ever. And that's just as important. You know, you realize one third of your life is spent sleeping crazy. I want to make sure I do that one third.
- [44:15]
B
Well, yeah, that messed me up when I first heard that.
- [44:17]
A
It's crazy.
- [44:18]
B
Yeah. Sleeping. When you factor in everything you do, there's not much.
- [44:24]
A
We have to make sure that our days and our minutes are marked with production in those areas. You know, every minute I spend, use the word spend like a financial spend. Do I want to spend money or do I want to spend time on something that's non fruitful or doesn't have value? What is my return on my investment in my emotional health, physical health, spiritual health, intellectual health, etc. I want to make sure that I'm thinking about those things all the time. It is that important.
- [44:52]
B
Yep.
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A
You know, why waste time? Because you can't. Once you spend that time, you can't go back and get a refund like you can buying something at a neighborhood convenience store or a department store. It's gone. You don't want to waste it.
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B
Time's everything. Yeah. When you factor in the work hours, the sleep hours, eating, bathroom and everything, it's not as much as you think.
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A
No. And you have to be very organized about that. You know, you have to set your bar high. You know, you have to have your excellence bar here. And you have to make sure you start there first and work backwards on how to get there.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's business 101. And the business of this business card I call it is everything. You know, when I walk in a room, it's not about anything else. People make that judgment call on me in a blink. You Know, like that old book, Blink, you know? Right. They make a judgment call on people. But what do I want them to see when they see this business card? Do I want them to see something that gives them hope? Do I want to give them. Give them some kind of motivation? I think so, yeah.
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B
I'm in the next phase now where I'm trying to work less honestly.
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A
Yeah. You want to work less, smarter, not harder, Be more efficient.
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B
Exactly. Yeah. I think in your early 20s, you could grind, work long, stack up six to seven figures, then you want to optimize from there.
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A
Yeah. I mean, it's like, what is efficiency? It's making something run better to get better results. And. And life is about that. We should be analyzing how we do things better, you know, And I think, as you mentioned earlier, AI is going to help us with that.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, it's helped my office, it's helped my wife and I run more efficient. Oh, 100, which is beautiful. And think of the day where it's coming. You know, you're going to have avatars. Everybody's gonna have their avatar. And so who you talking to, them or the avatar? You can be all different kind of places at once with that. And so is that. Is that effective at communication? Don't know. But I think we have opportunities out here at this stage of our life to do that for sure.
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B
Mark. We'll link the book, we'll link the products. Anything else you want to leave the audience with?
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A
No. I think maybe we started a good community longevity lab that I want people to have access to so they'll have that. And we educate people on this kind of stuff. And we're giving free membership, which is kind of cool. So I want people to have a place where they can go meet with us, speak with us, get taught by us that they don't pay for. I think that's great.
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B
Nice.
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A
Also, we're going to give that free resource out the seven biomarkers you need to know after 40, but let's just transition that back to after 30, because I think they're important. So that's a free resource we want to have.
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B
Cool. We'll link everything below. Thanks for coming, man.
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A
You're welcome. I appreciate you having.
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B
Yeah, I'll see you soon.
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A
All right, man. Thanks for everything.
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B
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