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Episode: The Truth About Male Enhancement Pumps (Do They Work?)

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Sam Sucke (CEO, Dr. Joel Kaplan Company)
Date: April 25, 2025
Episode Number: DSH #1353

Overview

In this candid and revealing episode, host Sean Kelly sits down with Sam Sucke, CEO of the Dr. Joel Kaplan Company, to cut through the noise and myths surrounding male enhancement products—especially penis pumps. Sam shares his personal and professional journey spanning two decades, offers science-backed insights into erection health and enlargement methods, and tackles the taboos around men’s sexual wellness. The episode explores the realities, benefits, and safe usage of male enhancement pumps, dispels misinformation, and highlights the importance of open conversation about men’s sexual health.

Key Topics & Discussion Points

Sam’s Journey into Male Enhancement

• Background & Experience:

  • Sam’s 20-year journey includes both personal experimentation and helping tens of thousands of men improve sexual performance.
  • Quote: “My mission is to teach men about erection health, what happens when you don’t take care of yourself and what you can do to reverse it.” (01:19 – Sam Sucke)

• First Encounter with Pumps:

  • A chance visit to an adult store led Sam to try a pump out of curiosity. Despite the pump breaking quickly, he witnessed immediate results.
  • Quote: “When you see your erection grow right in front of your eyes and it gets bigger, it’s mind blowing… it looks like it’s someone else’s.” (00:00 / 06:38 – Sam Sucke)
  • He explored multiple pump types (manual, electric, water) and found many were flawed—either “one size fits all” or lacked proper pressure gauges, increasing injury risk.
  • Injury Story: Hurt himself using a water pump without a gauge, couldn’t have sex for a week. “I had to stop pumping and I couldn't have sex for a week.” (08:09 – Sam Sucke)

How Penis Pumps Work

• Science & Mechanism:

  • Erections occur when blood flows to the penis; pumps intensify this by creating negative pressure, drawing more blood for stronger, larger erections.
  • Quote: “You go from 100% to 110, 120%. So erection is actually bigger.” (05:59 – Sam Sucke)

• Importance of Quality:

  • Custom sizing, accurate pressure gauges, medical-grade materials are critical for safety and effectiveness.
  • Quote: “Instead of this one size fits all, which doesn’t make sense for a few reasons… I got a custom cylinder for my size.” (11:06 – Sam Sucke)

From User to CEO: Sam’s Story

• Sam’s use of Dr. Joel Kaplan’s pump led to a family connection—Dr. Kaplan turned out to be his wife’s estranged uncle.
• After hours of deep conversations, Dr. Kaplan passed leadership of the company to Sam.
• Quote: “He wants someone who’s living it… So I eventually became the CEO of the company.” (14:36 – Sam Sucke)

Who Uses Male Enhancement Pumps? (16:40)

• Three Main Groups:
  1. Erectile Dysfunction: Typically older men or those for whom medication no longer works.
     • “Pumps are FDA cleared to treat erectile dysfunction.” (17:38 – Sam Sucke)
  2. Performance Enhancement: Young, healthy men seeking bigger, harder erections—“ambitious, want to be their partner’s best.” (19:00)
  3. Declining Erection Quality: Men in their 30s, 40s, or 50s who notice softer or smaller erections due to testosterone decline.
     • “By the time you’re 60, you will lose up to 20% of your penis size.” (20:06 – Sam Sucke)

Typical Medical Solutions vs. Pumps (21:12)

• Medical Model: Pills (Viagra/Cialis) → Injections (Trimix) → Surgery (implanted inflatable device).

  • “Trimix is an injection you basically have to stab yourself in the dick every time you want to have sex.” (21:57 – Sam Sucke)
  • Sam highlights short- and long-term downsides: “When you repeatedly inject yourself… you actually create damage.” (22:15 – Sam Sucke)

• Pump as a Root Cause Solution:

  • “The medical system is built to keep you dependent instead of addressing the root cause.” (24:56 – Sam Sucke)
  • Pumps, by contrast, increase blood flow, restore atrophied tissue, and can improve curvature and length.

Combining Pumps & Extenders (25:13)

• Pumps work for both girth and some length; extenders target length (especially effective when worn flaccid, even under clothes).
• Quote: “You just put it on and you can change the angle… I would just sit down in my office program while wearing the extender under my pants with other people in the office. No one knows.” (26:03 – Sam Sucke)
• Best results come from combining both, with a focus on pumps for overall improvements.

Busting Myths on Social Media (28:00)

• Biggest Myth: “People don’t believe it works. And it does.” (28:00 – Sam Sucke)
• Sam’s company is the only one offering custom protocols and coaching.
• The Three Essentials for Results:
  1. Medical-grade, custom-fitted pump, with pressure gauge
  2. Correct usage protocol (frequency, duration, pressure)
  3. Coaching support

Frequently Asked Questions (31:14)

• Are the Results Permanent?

  • Mostly, but like muscle, “if you don’t use it, you lose it.” Gradual loss without maintenance, but some gains remain. (31:17 – Sam Sucke)

• P-Shot and Shockwave Therapy:

  • P-shot accelerates results, but pumps can do most of the same.
  • Shockwave therapy breaks up plaque in penile blood vessels to improve blood flow. (34:18 – Sam Sucke)

• How Fast Do You See Results?

  • First-time use: Temporary thickness and firmness for a couple of hours.
  • 2–4 weeks: Noticeable girth and firmness.
  • 3 months: 10% girth, increased length, harder erections.
  • 6 months: Up to 15% length increase; at 7–12 months up to 1–2 (sometimes 3) inches added; 20–25% more girth.
    • Quote: “There is no limit, truly… at the 7 to 12 months is when most people report between 1 and 2 inches, sometimes even 3 totally in length.” (37:36 – Sam Sucke)

Addressing Social Taboos & Relationships (39:21)

• Many men feel shame or avoid discussing sexual health, despite widespread experience with decline or dysfunction.
• Women often call the company on behalf of partners, seeking solutions or gifts (“great stocking stuffer!” (38:54) – Sam Sucke).
• “Sex is what separates friendship from relationship, in my opinion.” (39:33 – Interviewer Sean Kelly)

Tracking Progress & Motivation

• Sam developed a web app (Pump Smart) for users to log sessions, track pressure, duration, and results.
• Tracking progress over time is key to staying motivated and consistent.
  • “The more you use the pump, the more results you see.” (41:51 – Sam Sucke)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Seeing Results:

  • “When you see your erection grow right in front of your eyes and it gets bigger, it’s mind blowing… it looks like it’s someone else’s.” (00:00 / 06:38 – Sam Sucke)

• On Dangers of Cheap Pumps:

  • “Most pumps didn’t have a pressure gauge… you can injure yourself. I end up hurting myself… and couldn’t have sex for a week.” (07:28 – Sam Sucke)

• Medical Model Problems:

  • “Trimix is an injection you have to stab yourself in the dick every time you want to have sex.” (21:57 – Sam Sucke)
  • “The next step is to cut open your dick… and put an inflatable device in your penis.” (22:52 – Sam Sucke)

• On Social Stigma:

  • “Men are a little more closed when it comes to their size… no one wants to admit…” (20:38 – Sam Sucke)

• Growth Timeline Reality Check:

  • “First time… results last about two hours.” (35:51 – Sam Sucke)
  • “Two to four weeks… increase in girth, thickness, harder erections.” (36:25 – Sam Sucke)
  • “Three months mark… 10% in girth… at the 6 months mark, most people report 15% increased length.” (36:43 / 37:10 – Sam Sucke)
  • “At the 7 to 12 months is when most people report between 1 and 2 inches, sometimes even 3, totally in length.” (37:36 – Sam Sucke)

• Relationship Impact:

  • “Sex is like a glue in the relationship… it’s what separates friendship from relationship.” (39:21 / 39:33 – Sean Kelly / Sam Sucke)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 – 01:19: Sam’s personal discovery and explanation of pumps
• 03:25 – 08:12: First experiences, early mishaps, safety, custom vs. generic products
• 11:06 – 12:51: Sam shows product and discusses importance of sizing & design
• 13:10 – 14:53: Meeting Dr. Joel Kaplan, family connection, becoming CEO
• 16:40 – 21:12: Who uses pumps & why, testosterone decline, age-related changes
• 21:12 – 24:52: Traditional medical approaches, their downsides
• 24:56 – 25:24: How pumps address root causes
• 25:29 – 27:36: Extenders, combining methods, best practices
• 28:00 – 30:23: Common myths, protocols, need for guidance
• 31:14 – 31:57: Permanence of results & the need for ongoing maintenance
• 32:01 – 34:12: P-Shot, shockwave therapy, how they compare to pumping
• 35:09 – 37:36: What results to expect and when
• 39:21 – 40:38: Sex and relationships, stigma, getting help
• 40:38 – 41:51: Tracking results, Pump Smart app, motivation
• 41:56 – 42:07: Where to find Sam and his programs

Final Thoughts

This engaging episode demystifies male enhancement pumps, blending personal stories, medical insights, and practical tips. Whether discussing the mechanics, busting myths, or talking about the importance of sexual health in relationships, Sam Sucke delivers an honest, evidence-based perspective. Listeners walk away with actionable knowledge, realistic expectations, and a sense that open conversation can transform men's health for the better.

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