The Truth About Male Enhancement Pumps (Do They Work?) | Sam Itshaki DSH #1353

Summary

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Podcast Summary – Digital Social Hour

Episode: The Truth About Male Enhancement Pumps (Do They Work?)

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Sam Sucke (CEO, Dr. Joel Kaplan Company)
Date: April 25, 2025
Episode Number: DSH #1353

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Overview

In this candid and revealing episode, host Sean Kelly sits down with Sam Sucke, CEO of the Dr. Joel Kaplan Company, to cut through the noise and myths surrounding male enhancement products—especially penis pumps. Sam shares his personal and professional journey spanning two decades, offers science-backed insights into erection health and enlargement methods, and tackles the taboos around men’s sexual wellness. The episode explores the realities, benefits, and safe usage of male enhancement pumps, dispels misinformation, and highlights the importance of open conversation about men’s sexual health.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

Sam’s Journey into Male Enhancement

• Background & Experience:

  • Sam’s 20-year journey includes both personal experimentation and helping tens of thousands of men improve sexual performance.
  • Quote: “My mission is to teach men about erection health, what happens when you don’t take care of yourself and what you can do to reverse it.” (01:19 – Sam Sucke)

• First Encounter with Pumps:

  • A chance visit to an adult store led Sam to try a pump out of curiosity. Despite the pump breaking quickly, he witnessed immediate results.
  • Quote: “When you see your erection grow right in front of your eyes and it gets bigger, it’s mind blowing… it looks like it’s someone else’s.” (00:00 / 06:38 – Sam Sucke)
  • He explored multiple pump types (manual, electric, water) and found many were flawed—either “one size fits all” or lacked proper pressure gauges, increasing injury risk.
  • Injury Story: Hurt himself using a water pump without a gauge, couldn’t have sex for a week. “I had to stop pumping and I couldn't have sex for a week.” (08:09 – Sam Sucke)

How Penis Pumps Work

• Science & Mechanism:

  • Erections occur when blood flows to the penis; pumps intensify this by creating negative pressure, drawing more blood for stronger, larger erections.
  • Quote: “You go from 100% to 110, 120%. So erection is actually bigger.” (05:59 – Sam Sucke)

• Importance of Quality:

  • Custom sizing, accurate pressure gauges, medical-grade materials are critical for safety and effectiveness.
  • Quote: “Instead of this one size fits all, which doesn’t make sense for a few reasons… I got a custom cylinder for my size.” (11:06 – Sam Sucke)

From User to CEO: Sam’s Story

• Sam’s use of Dr. Joel Kaplan’s pump led to a family connection—Dr. Kaplan turned out to be his wife’s estranged uncle.
• After hours of deep conversations, Dr. Kaplan passed leadership of the company to Sam.
• Quote: “He wants someone who’s living it… So I eventually became the CEO of the company.” (14:36 – Sam Sucke)

Who Uses Male Enhancement Pumps? (16:40)

• Three Main Groups:
  1. Erectile Dysfunction: Typically older men or those for whom medication no longer works.
     • “Pumps are FDA cleared to treat erectile dysfunction.” (17:38 – Sam Sucke)
  2. Performance Enhancement: Young, healthy men seeking bigger, harder erections—“ambitious, want to be their partner’s best.” (19:00)
  3. Declining Erection Quality: Men in their 30s, 40s, or 50s who notice softer or smaller erections due to testosterone decline.
     • “By the time you’re 60, you will lose up to 20% of your penis size.” (20:06 – Sam Sucke)

Typical Medical Solutions vs. Pumps (21:12)

• Medical Model: Pills (Viagra/Cialis) → Injections (Trimix) → Surgery (implanted inflatable device).

  • “Trimix is an injection you basically have to stab yourself in the dick every time you want to have sex.” (21:57 – Sam Sucke)
  • Sam highlights short- and long-term downsides: “When you repeatedly inject yourself… you actually create damage.” (22:15 – Sam Sucke)

• Pump as a Root Cause Solution:

  • “The medical system is built to keep you dependent instead of addressing the root cause.” (24:56 – Sam Sucke)
  • Pumps, by contrast, increase blood flow, restore atrophied tissue, and can improve curvature and length.

Combining Pumps & Extenders (25:13)

• Pumps work for both girth and some length; extenders target length (especially effective when worn flaccid, even under clothes).
• Quote: “You just put it on and you can change the angle… I would just sit down in my office program while wearing the extender under my pants with other people in the office. No one knows.” (26:03 – Sam Sucke)
• Best results come from combining both, with a focus on pumps for overall improvements.

Busting Myths on Social Media (28:00)

• Biggest Myth: “People don’t believe it works. And it does.” (28:00 – Sam Sucke)
• Sam’s company is the only one offering custom protocols and coaching.
• The Three Essentials for Results:
  1. Medical-grade, custom-fitted pump, with pressure gauge
  2. Correct usage protocol (frequency, duration, pressure)
  3. Coaching support

Frequently Asked Questions (31:14)

• Are the Results Permanent?

  • Mostly, but like muscle, “if you don’t use it, you lose it.” Gradual loss without maintenance, but some gains remain. (31:17 – Sam Sucke)

• P-Shot and Shockwave Therapy:

  • P-shot accelerates results, but pumps can do most of the same.
  • Shockwave therapy breaks up plaque in penile blood vessels to improve blood flow. (34:18 – Sam Sucke)

• How Fast Do You See Results?

  • First-time use: Temporary thickness and firmness for a couple of hours.
  • 2–4 weeks: Noticeable girth and firmness.
  • 3 months: 10% girth, increased length, harder erections.
  • 6 months: Up to 15% length increase; at 7–12 months up to 1–2 (sometimes 3) inches added; 20–25% more girth.
    • Quote: “There is no limit, truly… at the 7 to 12 months is when most people report between 1 and 2 inches, sometimes even 3 totally in length.” (37:36 – Sam Sucke)

Addressing Social Taboos & Relationships (39:21)

• Many men feel shame or avoid discussing sexual health, despite widespread experience with decline or dysfunction.
• Women often call the company on behalf of partners, seeking solutions or gifts (“great stocking stuffer!” (38:54) – Sam Sucke).
• “Sex is what separates friendship from relationship, in my opinion.” (39:33 – Interviewer Sean Kelly)

Tracking Progress & Motivation

• Sam developed a web app (Pump Smart) for users to log sessions, track pressure, duration, and results.
• Tracking progress over time is key to staying motivated and consistent.
  • “The more you use the pump, the more results you see.” (41:51 – Sam Sucke)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Seeing Results:

  • “When you see your erection grow right in front of your eyes and it gets bigger, it’s mind blowing… it looks like it’s someone else’s.” (00:00 / 06:38 – Sam Sucke)

• On Dangers of Cheap Pumps:

  • “Most pumps didn’t have a pressure gauge… you can injure yourself. I end up hurting myself… and couldn’t have sex for a week.” (07:28 – Sam Sucke)

• Medical Model Problems:

  • “Trimix is an injection you have to stab yourself in the dick every time you want to have sex.” (21:57 – Sam Sucke)
  • “The next step is to cut open your dick… and put an inflatable device in your penis.” (22:52 – Sam Sucke)

• On Social Stigma:

  • “Men are a little more closed when it comes to their size… no one wants to admit…” (20:38 – Sam Sucke)

• Growth Timeline Reality Check:

  • “First time… results last about two hours.” (35:51 – Sam Sucke)
  • “Two to four weeks… increase in girth, thickness, harder erections.” (36:25 – Sam Sucke)
  • “Three months mark… 10% in girth… at the 6 months mark, most people report 15% increased length.” (36:43 / 37:10 – Sam Sucke)
  • “At the 7 to 12 months is when most people report between 1 and 2 inches, sometimes even 3, totally in length.” (37:36 – Sam Sucke)

• Relationship Impact:

  • “Sex is like a glue in the relationship… it’s what separates friendship from relationship.” (39:21 / 39:33 – Sean Kelly / Sam Sucke)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 – 01:19: Sam’s personal discovery and explanation of pumps
• 03:25 – 08:12: First experiences, early mishaps, safety, custom vs. generic products
• 11:06 – 12:51: Sam shows product and discusses importance of sizing & design
• 13:10 – 14:53: Meeting Dr. Joel Kaplan, family connection, becoming CEO
• 16:40 – 21:12: Who uses pumps & why, testosterone decline, age-related changes
• 21:12 – 24:52: Traditional medical approaches, their downsides
• 24:56 – 25:24: How pumps address root causes
• 25:29 – 27:36: Extenders, combining methods, best practices
• 28:00 – 30:23: Common myths, protocols, need for guidance
• 31:14 – 31:57: Permanence of results & the need for ongoing maintenance
• 32:01 – 34:12: P-Shot, shockwave therapy, how they compare to pumping
• 35:09 – 37:36: What results to expect and when
• 39:21 – 40:38: Sex and relationships, stigma, getting help
• 40:38 – 41:51: Tracking results, Pump Smart app, motivation
• 41:56 – 42:07: Where to find Sam and his programs

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Final Thoughts

This engaging episode demystifies male enhancement pumps, blending personal stories, medical insights, and practical tips. Whether discussing the mechanics, busting myths, or talking about the importance of sexual health in relationships, Sam Sucke delivers an honest, evidence-based perspective. Listeners walk away with actionable knowledge, realistic expectations, and a sense that open conversation can transform men's health for the better.

For more info or to connect, visit getbiggernow.com.

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Transcript

[Sam Sucke]

And let me tell you, when you see erection rose right in front of your eyes and it gets bigger, it's mind blowing. Like, you look down and you know this is your penis. Right. But it's just so much bigger and better that it looks like it's someone else's.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

Okay, guys, Sam it Sucke here today, CEO of the Dr. Joel Kaplan Company, a brand that has helped over 100,000 men maximize your sexual performance. Thanks for coming on, man.

[Sam Sucke]

Thank you for having me. Sean.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. We're going to talk about a lot of fun stuff today, right?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, definitely.

[Interviewer]

How do you get involved with this stuff?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So I have 20 years of experience, both personal and professional, with male enhancement. And for those who don't know, male enhancement is the practice of increasing sexual performance, specifically increasing size and erection quality. Over those 20 years, I've tried a lot of products related to male enhancement. I've tried penis pumps, cock rings, extenders, even shockwave therapy.

[Interviewer]

I don't even know what that is.

[Sam Sucke]

Well, we can get to it. Yeah. And I'm here to tell you what works, what doesn't, and what's actually safe.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Because you've helped tens of thousands of men now at this point, right?

[Sam Sucke]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

So you've probably learned a lot by yourself, plus all the people you've helped.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. My mission is to teach men about erection health, what happens when you don't take care of yourself and what you can do to reverse it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Erection health is a big topic because a lot of people are experiencing issues these days, right?

[Sam Sucke]

Yes. And it happens to everyone. And by the way, in case everyone misses anything, you can find all the information@get biggernow.com.

[Interviewer]

What a name. Getbiggernow.com.

[Sam Sucke]

Right. Domain name. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

That's a good snipe by you guys.

[Sam Sucke]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

Must have found that one early.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. Yes. Yes, we have. Dr. Kaplan has been doing this for 30 years.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So this was an issue 30 years ago, too.

[Sam Sucke]

Yes, it's always been an issue.

[Interviewer]

Wow. But I feel like now it's really bad because there's people in their 20s and 30s struggling with this stuff.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So let's be honest, every guy at some point wondered if they can increase the size of their penis. But the reality is that there's a lot of misinformation out there.

We've all got those spammy emails. Right. Take this pill or do this shocking trick and you'll gain five inches in two days. Right. It's bullshit. So I'm here to tell you today what actually works and how to get a longer, thicker and harder erection in 30 days.

[Interviewer]

That's pretty quick.

[Sam Sucke]

It is. You start seeing results that quickly.

[Interviewer]

And is that with the pump? Primarily, yes.

[Sam Sucke]

So there are many solutions out there, but I definitely recommend to start with the pump. The pump brings most of the benefits.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. Including increasing reaction quality size, increase increasing your blood carrying capacity so you get harder erections.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. The pills seemed kind of sketchy to me.

[Sam Sucke]

They are sketchy. First of all, most of them flat out just don't work. There is no magic pill that will work overnight. It just doesn't exist. And. Yeah, and let's not get into gas station pills.

[Interviewer]

Oh, God.

[Sam Sucke]

Because those are. Those could be dangerous.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Who knows what's in those, right?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I'm sure they're not testing what's in that.

[Sam Sucke]

Oh, yeah, they're not. Yeah. But I would love to tell you how I got into it all.

[Interviewer]

Please.

[Sam Sucke]

So.

So one day my wife was away for the weekend and I was home alone, a little bored, and so I decided to walk into an adult store for the first time in my life. I wasn't expecting anything. I didn't know what I was looking for. I was just curious. So I walk in and I just start browsing. Didn't know what I was going to get. I just want to explore.

And I see this huge penis pumps. It was like this big. Like, who needs this, right?

Yeah. So that was. I thought it was hilarious, but I was also curious about. So I walked up to the cashier and asked him, is this for people with a problem or is this something that anyone can use? And he just looked at me and said, dude, anyone can use it. That's the whole point. So I bought it. No research, no expectations, just. Just pure curiosity.

Now, before I tell you my experience when I pumped for the first time, let me just quickly explain how penis pumps work because if you've never used one, you need to know this. So an erection happens when blood rushes to the penis. When you use a penis pumps Penis pump. The pump draws even more blood to the penis. And so if you're at 100% your wrecked state. Right. And you put the pump on, you pump.

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[Sam Sucke]

You go from 100% to 110, 120%. So erection is actually bigger. Right.

So anyway, back to the story. They go back home, try this thing on, and within 20 seconds I just watch my erection grows right in front of me. I mean it just keeps growing and growing, growing.

So I remember thinking, you know, like, holy shit, this thing actually works. Now unfortunately, that pump was junk. It broke after three minutes. Yeah.

Yeah, but you know, I saw it firsthand, right? And let me tell you, when you see erection grows right in front of your eyes and it gets bigger, it's mind blowing. Like you look down and you know this is your penis, right? But it's just so much bigger and better that it looks like it's someone else's.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

So, yeah, so I was a little disappointed it broke, but I was really more than anything super excited because I realized I just discovered something really cool. So I went all in. I just got every penis pump I can get my hands on. I tried manual pumps, I tried electric pumps, I tried water pumps. And they were okay, some of them are okay. But they also had a lot of problems.

So the number one problem was that all of them was a one size fits all right? And that doesn't make sense because every guy is different. And then the second thing was that most pumps didn't have a pressure gauge. So you put this thing on your pump and you have no idea what you're doing. You know, you just you seeing some results, you're feeling some results, but you don't know if the pressure is too high, right. And so you can injure yourself. And that's actually what happened to me specifically with a water pump. There's no gauge. I kind of liked it because I can use it in a shower, but I end up hurting myself. I had to stop pumping and I couldn't have sex for a week.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And you couldn't get hard or.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, I couldn't get it hard. It kind of. Before my penis alone.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, but it went away. It was very temporary. Luckily it was temporary. Right. And this is just to show you that it's important to get the right pump right.

Now. I'm not someone who just gives up when I fail. So after that happened, of course I gave it a week to recover. Everything went back to normal. I basically did a deep dive. I started researching on online forums, there are communities of people who talk about penis enlargement.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

And they all share stats about their growth journey.

[Interviewer]

They're on Reddit. Right, Right.

[Sam Sucke]

Too. Yes. There are forums dedicated to it and Reddit is a huge place for it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

So, yeah, I figured that if I. If I see what people who've been pumping for 10 or 20 years have to say, I'll be successful with this, you know, with this male enhancement thing. So I started reading the forums. I spent hours and hours and I noticed that a lot of the people who've been. Who have been pumping for a long time, they were recommending, they were using and recommending a Dr. Gel Caplan pump. They were saying that it's high quality, the pressure gauge is accurate, it has a great customer support. So that's all I need to hear. Because my experience up until that point was way different. Right.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Sam Sucke]

All the pumps I bought, you can talk to anyone about. Right. Not to mention poor quality and stuff. So I ordered one and let me tell you, as soon as I got it was very obvious that this pump was different.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

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[Sam Sucke]

Quality Was much higher, not some flimsy plastic. And they do things a little differently. Instead of this one size fits all, which doesn't make sense for a few reasons. Actually.

I got myself a custom cylinder for my size. So as you can see here. I know not everyone can see.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You could hold it up too, if you want to show people.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, sure. Yeah. So that's the smaller size.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. This is your camera.

[Sam Sucke]

Oh, thanks. So that's the smaller size, and we have various sizes to accommodate everyone and anyone.

So. Yeah. So I got. I got a pump with a cylinder that is custom fit for my size. And basically, as you use it, you. You grow and you basically graduate. You upgrade. Just the pump tube. You don't have to buy a whole new pump. You're not stuck with the same pump. You just get the next cylinder and you take the pump.

[Interviewer]

So you started at this one?

[Sam Sucke]

No, I start with the medium, which is the average. It actually fits more than 80% of men.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So is this. What does this 2 mean?

[Sam Sucke]

2? That means 2 inch in diameter.

[Interviewer]

Oh, in. Yes.

[Sam Sucke]

And that actually means there's extra room around it. So.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Sam Sucke]

So most people are not 2 inch in diameter. They're actually a little smaller. And so when you upgrade, you just take the pump from one cylinder and you just. Excuse me.

Put in the other.

[Interviewer]

Oh, nice. Yeah, I like that.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And what does this thing on the top do?

[Sam Sucke]

The top part is the pump itself. That's what creates the suction.

[Interviewer]

Got it. Yeah. So you take out all the oxygen.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. You just create negative pressure, and that draws blood. And your. And as the. As the air is removed from the tube, your penis grows because blood is drawn. Blood enters the penis, and your penis just grows in the tube.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. It's really cool to see, especially for the first time.

[Interviewer]

That's cool, dude.

[Sam Sucke]

Thank you. Yeah. So fast forward a few years, and by the way, this is where the story gets really interesting.

So one day, my wife tells me that her family is going to reconnect with her estranged uncle. She never met her uncle. She didn't even know his name.

So we go and meet him for the first time. And my wife's mother introduces me to him. She introduces me to Dr. Joel Kaplan. Yeah, the Dr. Kaplan.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Sam Sucke]

I. Yeah, I have his pump. I've been using his pump for years. Not knowing who he is, not knowing that he's my wife's uncle. Wow.

[Interviewer]

What are the odds of that?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. It's crazy how life works sometimes, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. That's nuts.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So what was the first thing you told him?

[Sam Sucke]

I told him I'm a big fan and then the heaviest product and I really like it and I promised him that I use it regularly. I love him. As instructed.

[Interviewer]

Love that.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, yeah. So we talked for hours and hours about men's health and male enhancement. He's obviously very knowledgeable, so I picked his brain and I told him about my own journey of male enhancements. And after hours and hours of talking, he told me that he was ready to pass the torch, so to speak. Right. He told me that he want to pass on leadership of the company to someone who really understands the mission.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Sam Sucke]

He didn't want someone who was just going to do it for the business and.

He wants someone who's living it. Right. So I eventually became the CEO of the company and it's been about 10 years. Wow. Yeah, I've learned a lot.

[Interviewer]

You went from customer to CEO.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

Yeah, I went. It's not just customer, it's shout out.

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[Sam Sucke]

Just, you know, I was someone who did it as a hobby and, you know, just for myself and maybe a little bit for my wife, but mostly for myself, if I'm being honest. You know, I just, I just want to be bigger, be better in bed, push my boundaries. It's something I like to do in general.

So, yeah, I didn't know that all of this research and, and hobby is going to become my life's mission, you know, Crazy. Yeah, yeah. So I learned a lot in the past 10 years. That's how long I've been running the company.

And the first thing, one of the things I learned is that there are three primary reasons why people get pumps. Then the first group are people who can't really get it up. Right. So they have erectile dysfunction. These are usually older people. Doesn't have to be that way. They are younger people who have that too. But they're usually in their 60s, 70s, and 80s. And they can't really take vag or Cialis either because it stopped working. And it does stop working after a while for a lot of people.

[Interviewer]

Really? I didn't know that.

[Sam Sucke]

It does. Yes.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sam Sucke]

You know, if you take it for years, like a lot of different pills. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You get immune to it.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, they either either it stopped working or they can't take it for medical reasons because of other medications or heart problems. And so they buy a pump. And the thing is, pumps are FDA cleared to treat erectile dysfunction.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So you can use them to get a harder, you know, a bigger and harder erection for sex. And actually pumps existed before vagrantials that back in the days, that was the solution for erectile dysfunction.

[Interviewer]

So these have been around for a.

[Sam Sucke]

While, a long time. It's extremely proven. Wow.

[Interviewer]

I thought they were newer then.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, yeah. A lot of people don't know much about them. Most of the people I talk with, like random people about pumps, they have one reference from Austin Powers, you know, they think it's a joke and that's fine, you know, and that's what I'm.

[Interviewer]

Here for, you know, to rebrand the.

[Sam Sucke]

Pump, to educate people, you know, to let everyone know that, hey, this has medical benefits.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

So.

[Interviewer]

So that's the first reason they can't get it up. What are the other two reasons?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, so the, the second reason why people use a pump. And these, these people are completely on the other end of the spectrum. I used to be one of those people. These are usually people who are younger. They don't have any erection problems. They just want to be bigger and harder. These are usually athletes, bodybuilders, or just people who are very ambitious. They want an edge in everything, including in the bedroom. They just want to blow the girlfriend's mind in the bedroom. They want to be her biggest and best in the bedroom. Yeah, yeah. So I used to be one of those people. And the third group, and that's actually the biggest group of people are people who are kind of in between. They. They do a function, they can get an erection, but they start noticing that the erection is a little softer and a little smaller. They're usually in their mid-30s, 40s, 50s. Right. And the thing is, they're right. They. The erection probably is softer and smaller because after the age of 35, testosterone starts to drop. And when testosterone drop, so does erection quality. Size, stamina. That's just a part of it. When testosterone drop, your erectile tissue starts to atrophy and weaken and your blood vessels in the penis shape shrink. So what's the outcome? You get that softer erections and a smaller penis size. And this. That's something you should know. By the time you're 60, you will lose up to 20% of your penis size.

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[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I've never heard someone talk about that.

[Sam Sucke]

Yep. And you'll have some form of ed And.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, everyone's probably too ashamed.

[Sam Sucke]

Sorry, That's. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. But the thing is, it happens to everyone. 100% of men experience this very slow decline. It's normal.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

And, you know, I wish. Yeah. I wish people talked about. Yeah, men are a little more close when it comes to their size.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

No one wants to admit.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. Especially size and sexual health in general. They don't really talk. Most men don't talk about. With their friends.

[Interviewer]

They're ashamed.

[Sam Sucke]

Yes, exactly.

So at that point, when someone has a problem.

What they do is they go to a doctor, Right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

Now, as part of being a CEO for the Dr. Joel Kaplan Company, I go to medical. To sexual medicine conferences. And so I've learned what urologists.

Have to offer.

And it's. There is a standard operating procedure. There are three big solutions. Right. And so the first one, when you go to your doctor, the first thing they're going to tell you is they're going to prescribe Vagar, Cialis.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

And that's okay. But the thing is, pills are Band Aids, Right. They're temporary. They don't really address the root cause of the problem. Right. So you just stuck using them forever. Right. And by forever, I mean until they stop working.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

And when they do stop working, you go back to your doctor, and what your doctor is going to do is they're going to prescribe an injection.

[Interviewer]

Geez.

[Sam Sucke]

Have you ever heard of Trimix?

[Interviewer]

No.

[Sam Sucke]

Okay, so Trimix is an injection that you basically have to stab yourself in the dick every time you want to have sex. What? Yeah. This is not like Europe or anything. Like that every single time you want to have sex, you have to inject yourself.

[Interviewer]

Sounds painful.

[Sam Sucke]

It is. It's painful. And you know, the, the long term effects of it, it's actually bad because when you repeatedly inject yourself with stuff, you actually create damage. Yeah. So eventually that stops to work too, because you, you create scarring in your erectile tissue. It can lead to curvature. Right. Things like that. And it can become ineffective for that reason. And so when Trimix doesn't work anymore, you go back to your doctor and.

Your doctor is going to just tell you, okay, the next step is to cut open your deck. Yep. The next step is a very serious surgery where they put an inflatable device in your penis to create an artificial erection.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sam Sucke]

It's not even your erection. So every time you want erection, you have to press something in your scrotum to kind of shift fluid into that device. Right. And it's, again, it's not even your erection. So it doesn't feel as good, it's not as stiff. It's just something that people do because they have to, they don't have any other choice. Right.

Not to mention that surgery has very, very serious.

Potential side effects. Right. Like the risk of infection. I've seen in one of those conferences, I've seen pictures of what it looks like when one of the surgery doesn't go well, when the patient gets infected. It's horrifying. Do not ever Google that kind of procedure surgery or what an infection looks like. You will be horrified for life.

[Interviewer]

Oh, man.

[Sam Sucke]

So, yeah, so, you know, again, pills are temporary. Trimix, you're just creating scarring tissue. It's.

[Interviewer]

These all sound terrible compared to a pump.

[Sam Sucke]

They are. Yes, exactly. And these are the three solutions that urologists offer their patients. You know, and the thing is, there are, there are better solutions out there Right now, just to be clear, I'm not, I'm not against pills or anything like that. Right. If you want a pill for a weekend getaway, you know, you need an extra boost, that's fine. But as far as taking it regularly, I would recommend to push it for as long as you can.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to rely on it.

[Sam Sucke]

Exactly. Yeah. And you, you don't want to go down that path where it stops working and you move on to the next step. Right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

And, you know, this is all unfortunate.

It's kind of typical. You know, our medical system is built to keep you dependent instead of addressing the root cause of the problem. Right. And this is where pumps Are really different. Pumps really address the root cause of the problem. Right.

So when you use a pump, you draw blood flow into the penis.

[Interviewer]

Do the pumps help fix curvature?

[Sam Sucke]

Yes, pumps can definitely help fix curvature, and so do extenders.

[Interviewer]

And this is the extender right here?

[Sam Sucke]

Yes, that's the extender.

[Interviewer]

So how does this work?

[Sam Sucke]

It's something that you use while flaccid. So you basically put the penis through this hole here and then here and right below the head of the penis.

[Interviewer]

You.

[Sam Sucke]

You just secure it, and it keeps the penis stretched.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So that fixes curvature, and it also is very good for enlargement, specifically for length.

[Interviewer]

Really? Yeah. Only when you're soft.

[Sam Sucke]

No, the length. The length gains that you get from it applies both when you're erect and when you're flossing. Oh, wow. Yeah. I use the. This is something you can use under your clothes, by the way.

[Interviewer]

You just walk around with that?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, yeah. You just. You put it on and you can change the angle.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So you just put it down or up.

[Interviewer]

So you're just wearing that all day?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. And my background is in software engineering. I used to be a software engineer before I became a big change. Huge change. Yes. Yeah. And as a software engineer, you sit down a lot, right? Right. So I. I would just sit down in my office program while wearing the extender under my pants with other people in the office. No one knows.

[Interviewer]

No one ever called you out?

[Sam Sucke]

Nope. Not. No.

[Interviewer]

Well done.

[Sam Sucke]

No one will see it.

[Interviewer]

I might have to try that one, too.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. I have a care package for you.

[Interviewer]

Oh, I love it. That combined with the pump. You got me. Nice, man.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Let's go.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. And actually speaking about combining it with the pump, it works amazing together.

[Interviewer]

Oh, so you wear that in the pump too?

[Sam Sucke]

You could. So it really depends on what goal you want to accomplish. There's a reason why I recommend a pump first, and mainly because pumps have so many benefits. It's not just about length. Right. You get girth, you get length, you reverse atrophy. Right. And that's the thing, you know, like, everything we spoke about sound like a lot of bad news, you know, but there are good news. There are good solutions out there. And pumps are the most researched and medically backed, you know, solution for erectile dysfunction and to reverse atrophy and to enlarge the penis.

[Interviewer]

As long as it's a good quality one.

[Sam Sucke]

Yes. It definitely needs to be.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

This is glass or it's polycarbonate.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

It feels like it's Quality, extremely hard plastic. You can throw this against the wall right now in front of all the cameras and nothing will happen to it.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Sam Sucke]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

That's nice, man.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. Don't do it. Yeah. So.

[Interviewer]

What are some myths you see on social media about this type of stuff?

[Sam Sucke]

I think the first myth is that people don't believe it works. And it does.

[Interviewer]

I mean, you used it yourself, you grew from it. You probably know hundreds of people that have used it.

[Sam Sucke]

Oh, way more than hundred. I know tens of thousands of people who've used it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And all of them experienced some growth.

[Sam Sucke]

Yes, almost all of them. There is the occasional person who doesn't, but it's extremely rare. And actually we're the only company that offers some more guidance. I mean, some of instructions and I'll get to that. And coaching. Right. So. So to get the benefits from a pump, you need three things. You need a high quality pump, something that's medical grade, something with a pressure gauge because you need to know what pressure you're applying, otherwise you can hurt yourself.

And you definitely need a custom size cylinder or cylinder that is sized for you. And let me just show you something real quick. This is something I know that not everybody can see it, but I'll try to describe it. There's a squishy gasket at the bottom of the cylinder. All pumps out there use a one size fits all kind of mechanism. And this is how they do it. They use an oversized cylinder and they give you this, the squishy part. And so that becomes a one size fits all. But when you put your penis inside, it just prevents you from expending and it restricts. Restricts blood flow. Now, the whole point of a pump is to bring blood flow to your penis. So if you're restricting blood flow, what's the point?

[Interviewer]

Right, Right.

[Sam Sucke]

You're literally preventing yourself from growing. Right. From. From getting those benefits. So, yeah, so the first thing you need is the right equipment, the right pump. The second thing is you need the right protocol, because doesn't matter what pump you have, if you don't know how to use it, you're not going to see results.

[Interviewer]

Right, Right.

[Sam Sucke]

So our company provides a protocol with all pumps that is based on your level of experience. So if you're someone who's just starting you pump, the protocol includes frequency, duration, max pressure level that you should go to. And obviously, if you're a beginner and you're just starting, it's very different than a protocol for someone who's been doing it for six months.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Sam Sucke]

So, yeah. So the second thing you need is a good protocol so that you know how to use it. Right. And so our company provides that, and we also offer, as part of your purchase, access to our male enhancement coaches. You can call in and ask questions. Yeah. And all of our coaches use the pumps regularly. They know it very well.

[Interviewer]

That's cool.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. And now we spoke to thousands of people just in the past year, so we've heard it all.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

There's no need to be shy or anything. You know, it's normal to have questions. And, you know, we are the only source that you can call and ask questions about pumps and about men's sexual health.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

Now, you can't. Your doctor probably doesn't know about pumps or doesn't know enough about pumps. They'll just prescribe you a pill. And it's not like you can talk about this with your friends.

[Interviewer]

No.

[Sam Sucke]

So, yeah.

[Interviewer]

Do you lose results if you stop?

[Sam Sucke]

It's kind of like going to the gym. If you go to the gym for a while and get buffed, if you stop, you will very gradually get smaller. Not necessarily to the point where you started. Right. It's just whenever it comes to your body, anything is that the principle is if you don't use it, you lose it.

[Interviewer]

Right, Right.

[Sam Sucke]

So the same thing applies here. If you stop pumping. Yeah. You'll slowly and gradually lose it. It can take years for you to lose your progress. Right. And some people would pump, like, once a week, just, like, to maintain things.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, right.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So the results are definitely permanent. Hmm.

[Interviewer]

That makes sense. Have you heard about the P shot?

[Sam Sucke]

I have, yes. I actually know the doctor who invented it. Did you.

[Interviewer]

Did you get it on yourself or.

[Sam Sucke]

No, no. He. He offered to. He offered for me to join one of his training sessions where he trains other doctors in performing the procedure, and he actually offered to perform it on me.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

I don't feel like I need it yet.

You know, thankfully, I have a warehouse full of pumps, you know, know, and the pumps really do all those benefits that are promised with the P shot. The P shot accelerates those benefits. And so the kind of benefits you can expect when you use a pump regularly is the first thing is you reverse atrophy. Atrophy happens when there is lack of blood flow to the penis. Right. So your penalty, your. Your erection tissue kind of weakens and atrophies and your blood vessels to the penis shrink. Right. And so. Yeah, so you reverse that by bringing all that blood flow.

The second thing, the second benefit you get from it is you increase your blood carrying capacity. So when, when you pump, when you engage your penis with blood regularly, as I said before, you start with 100%, you pump it up, you're now at 110, 120%. What do you think happens? Your blood vessels have to adapt, and so they dial it, they widen, and you actually grow new blood vessels through a process called neovascularization. Yeah, that's something that almost no one knows.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's crazy, right?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So the results of that is that you get erections much quicker and those erections are way harder. Like you become rock hard because of that.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. And the third thing that happens is you actually grow. Now again, you pump it to 110, 120% so you yourselves actually gets a little larger and that stimulates mitosis. Your cells just divides and your penis grow.

[Interviewer]

Hmm, that's cool.

[Sam Sucke]

That's what happens when you use a pump regularly.

[Interviewer]

What about shockwave therapy? What's that one about?

[Sam Sucke]

So, so P and shockwave are great accelerators. P. Yeah. So P accelerates the benefits from the pump. And shockwave is a little different. It's basically the use of sound waves to kind of penetrate your skin and break plaque in your blood vessels. And that's something that happens to everyone. Blood vessels get some plaque. And since erections are all about blood flow, when you have plaque, even a little bit of plaque in your blood vessels, your erections are not as hard. And so you can use shockwave therapy to break that plaque. And it's non invasive. It's just from the outside. It's a little loud, but sounds like it, it's fine.

[Interviewer]

What else are you doing?

Any other modalities or solutions?

[Sam Sucke]

Well, let's talk about results, because I think that's, that's the number one questions that people want to know. Once they hear about the benefits. They want to know, okay, when can I get it? Can I have it by tomorrow? So the short answer is no.

[Interviewer]

I love the honesty.

[Sam Sucke]

Yes, always. So as far as results, it's important to be realistic and it's important to understand that every person is different. So results vary. Right. So the first time when you use a pump, you'll see your erection gets thicker, bigger, harder. But those results will last for about two hours and then subside.

But it's very different when you start using a pump regularly for about 10 to 20 minutes every time, three times a week. When you start using it regularly like that between two weeks and four weeks, this is when people start Seeing increase in girth, recent thickness, your erections get harder and there's a little bit of length. Right. It's. It's noticeable, but it's not a lot. And the thing is, with pumps, you get girth way faster than you get length.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Sam Sucke]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

Oh, wow.

[Sam Sucke]

And that's fine. You know, women usually care about girth more than length anyway. Right. But yeah, you do get length from it. At the three months mark, most people reports 10% in girth.

And again, you know, more. More lengths and harder. Morning, woods. Yeah. And at that point, you also reverse atrophy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

That's why you get rock hard erections at that point. So it doesn't take that long to see real results.

At that point, hopefully you continue to pump. And at the six months mark, most people report 15% increased length.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So if you're, let's say, five or six inches in length, you can expect almost three quarters of an inch.

[Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. And up to 20% girth.

[Interviewer]

Damn. Yeah. That's nuts.

[Sam Sucke]

That's. That's a huge difference for both partners, let's just say.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. And if you continue there, there is no limit, truly. Right. There are people who've been pumping for a very long time.

[Interviewer]

So you could keep going.

[Sam Sucke]

You can keep. Yes. I'm not aware of any limits. But. But at the 7 to 12 months is when most people report between 1 and 2 inches, sometimes even 3, totally in length. Yeah. And up to 25% in girth.

[Interviewer]

Dude, I'm starting tonight. This is nuts.

[Sam Sucke]

You should.

[Interviewer]

I didn't know it was this, like, this much growth.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's amazing and it's fun. It's kind of fun, you know, to use it. And I know, you know, some men are thinking, oh, what about my girl? Is she gonna judge me? You know, let me just tell you something from my own personal experience and from the experience of many of our customers. Women find it hot.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's.

[Sam Sucke]

It's sexy, you know, to see your erection grow in the tube and they can't touch it. It's another thing. It's forbidden.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Tease them a little bit with it.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yes.

[Interviewer]

Women probably love it because why wouldn't you want your man to be bigger and have more girth?

[Sam Sucke]

Exactly. Actually, um, it's very common for women to call our company for their husbands.

[Interviewer]

Oh, really?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, they, you know, they want it fixed.

[Interviewer]

That's funny. Oh, they break.

[Sam Sucke]

Ah, no, no, not the palm. They. Their husband is Having an issue either. Completely erectile dysfunction.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It's a good Christmas gift.

[Sam Sucke]

It's a great stocking stuffer.

[Interviewer]

Man. The table, then the stocking.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. Right under the tree.

Yeah. So, yeah, it's very common for women to call on behalf of the husband, telling us, hey, he's been having some issues. Either he can't get up or his erections are a little soft.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

So they do it for them.

[Interviewer]

Well, it's a major issue. There's a lot of sexless marriages. There's a lot of people not having sex because of issues like this.

[Sam Sucke]

There are. And. And it's too bad, because sex is like a clue in the relationship. You know, it's. It's the one thing that. That brings your relationship so much closer than, I know. Your best friends.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Sex is what separates friendship from relationship, in my opinion. Yeah.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah, exactly. And. And, yeah, a lot of. It's very common for younger people, too, to have those kind of issues. I personally know someone who had an issue getting it up, and after two times when it happened, he just stopped dating altogether. Like, I'm just not doing this, you know, it's just too embarrassing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I don't blame them.

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Wow, that sucks. Anything else you want to share?

[Sam Sucke]

Let's see.

[Interviewer]

We got through a lot, right?

[Sam Sucke]

Yeah. So, yeah, let's see. We spoke about expected results. We spoke about.

What you need to get those results. Right. The pump, the protocol. Oh, yeah. There is one thing I forgot to mention. So besides having the right pump and the right protocol, because you need to know how to use it properly. Results. It's also very important to track your results. Right. Think about if you want to lose weight. Weight, you step on the scale. Right. If you want to get buff, you go to the gym. And you know how many reps you're doing.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Sam Sucke]

Or how much you bench. Right. So it's very important to track your results along the way, especially because those results are gradual. They happen over time. Right. And so you want to know that you're on your way. And so actually, for that reason, I created a web app called Pump Smart. Yeah. Where people can log their pump sessions. You can log duration, how long you've been pumping for, and the pressure you're using. So you have a whole history of every time you pump. And.

And you can also log your erection performance, things like size, rigidity, and sensitivity. And the app just gives you charts so you can see for yourself that it's working. You can see for yourself that you're on your way to getting those kinds of results. And the thing is, it's not just about results. It also keeps you motivated, keeps you motivated and keeps you consistent. So, yeah, we have thousands of users who use this app, and it's very obvious that the more you use the pump, the more results you see. There's an extremely high correlation between those two metrics.

[Interviewer]

I love it. Sam, where can people find the product, find you, and get in touch and everything?

[Sam Sucke]

So you can find everything we just Talked [e-mail] Perfect.

[Interviewer]

Check it out, guys. We'll link it below. If you have any questions, we'll link your social media account to the message.

[Sam Sucke]

Right.

[Interviewer]

Perfect. Check them out, guys. I'll see you next time.